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2008, 2009, 2010 FAMILIES
CALL YVETTE 994-9648, email Nanee_angel@yahoo.com
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«Oldest ‹Older 1201 – 1318 of 1318Action Jackson and the super you both lied
Hasta la vista Baby!
TO THE PIT!!
The casino was not that good,
big deal they had my name in lights,
so what,
my grandparents could not go!
I'd rather have family there not my name in lights
07Senior
2008 Families, we want to go back to the PIT
The mayor backed the WRONG horse and so did rrps.
RRPS families
ROCK THE PIT AGAIN!
Gary Herron is completely out of line with his philosophy regarding who can and who can’t attend graduations.
Please make sure you send this out to everyone in your email address book, every Blog space, every "my space" location, hey, even share it with strangers you pass on the street.
I just read this in the newspaper and then a comment about it here on the Blog.
I don’t want to say anything mean spirited here but this needs to be passed on.
Also, run down the article in the Observer’s 3/25/07 Sunday issue and read all of it.
Part of BLOG COMMENT:
Gary, you actually wrote 10 year olds and under “should have stayed home”?
I don’t want to have my figures wrong or did you mean, 9 year olds and under “should have stayed home”?
I hope your foot is not that big?
I hope your quote gets passed around to every mother and father across this country.
May I respectfully ask you, who are you to discriminate against age?
(Perhaps I should count my blessing you don’t have S. Cleveland, R. Von Ancken and B. Duncan’s position)
I wonder now Gary, were you part of the think tank to get the decision through? Just asking.
“BACK TO THE PIT
FAMILY AND FRIENDS OF RIO RANCHO HIGH SCHOOL GRADUATES DISCUSSION GROUP”
After reading your blogs, newspaper stories, and the newscasts, Dr. Cleveland we want the 2008 graduation at THE PIT, thank you.
The Pit
2008 wants to go Back To The Pit
"REMEMBER THIS DECISION BY RRPS WILL AFFECT ALL GRADUATING SENIORS, THEIR FAMILIES AND LOVED ONES OVER THE NEXT 4 YEARS OR UNTIL THE NEW SCHOOL IS OPEN!"
YES, NOW 2008, 2009, 2010 WILL ALL BE AFFECTED!
INCLUDING THE CLASS OF 2007,
NOW EASILY
OVER 49,000 to 59,000 PEOPLE
THAT WOULD LIKE TO ATTEND
WON'T BE ALLOWED TO ATTEND!
BECAUSE EACH YEAR EACH CLASS WILL BE BIGGER THEN THE PREVIOUS YEAR!
Make sure you PASS this on!
Call Yvette 994-9648
The Mayor backed The Pit change
when we tried to get his help,
he was backing the move and Dr. Cleveland
From the Front Page of ABQ Journal
http://www.abqjournal.com/news/metro/568021metro06-03-07.htm
Sunday, June 3, 2007
Rio Rancho Pulls Mayor's Credit Card
By Sean Olson
Copyright © 2007 Albuquerque Journal; Journal Staff Writer
Rio Rancho city staff have revoked Mayor Kevin Jackson's city-issued credit card over nearly $8,000 in purchases primarily made at the Santa Ana Star Center for renting out suites, buying food and paying for concert tickets.
"It would be very difficult to determine a public purpose for just handing out tickets," interim city manager Jim Babin said Friday.
City Fiscal Services director Dick Kristof said Friday that Jackson's purchasing card— a city-issued credit card— was canceled May 17 and a new one has been issued to the city. The new card "is not available" to Jackson, Kristof said.
City spokesman Peter Wells said a city audit into the credit card records will continue.
Jackson's attorney, B.J. Crow, said Saturday that he has not seen any details to allegations against Jackson and has only one comment until he does.
"Mr. Jackson is adamant that no city funds have been misspent," Crow said.
Jackson has been out of town and has not returned Journal messages.
In a May 24 letter to his administrative assistant, Jackson claims he did not specifically ask for some of the entertainment charges to be put on the city's card.
"This past week, I was shown a bill for my credit card that had many charges on it that I did not make," the letter states.
His letter recommends changes that better track expenditures for travel and the event center, and requests a monthly report on all expenses from the mayor's budget.
He also said in the letter that he realizes that his administrative assistant is "often put in a position to charge something based on calls from others for tickets, events, etc. especially when others say that the Mayor said so or this is official business."
Memo stated concerns
All of the questionable purchases appeared on the monthly summary of purchasing that Jackson signed.
Babin sent a memo to Jackson on May 18— a day after Jackson's card was canceled— outlining concerns that city personnel had raised over Jackson's purchasing habits throughout the year.
"Again, we are not authorized to expend public funds to purchase tickets in order to give them to other people, including City or State employees, unless there is an official city function being hosted— one which has a defined benefit to the city as a whole," the memo said.
The memo also questioned "various lunches" and one purchase for $11 worth of alcohol. City policy does not allow public funds to be spent on alcohol.
Jackson signed a card holder agreement in March 2006 for the credit card that outlines the rules of using the card.
The agreement states "under no circumstances will I use the Purchasing Card to make personal purchases."
City records show that Jackson on May 24— after his credit card had been revoked— reimbursed the city for about $600 of the $8,000 questioned.
It was to refund $216 worth of Moody Blues tickets, $184 for refreshments at the concert and about $200 worth of food from Sal E Boys Pizza in Rio Rancho and Chili's Grill, according to a memo sent to city staff from Jackson's administrative assistant.
Among other purchases that raised concerns included:
April transactions for about $2,600 worth of tickets and refreshments for concerts, New Mexico Scorpions playoff tickets and a business dinner with new city manager Jim Payne.
March transactions of about $1,100 worth of Santa Ana Star Center purchases.
February transactions of about $1,900 in tickets— including $1,600 worth for Willie Nelson tickets.
November transactions of $1,281 for travel and events center tickets.
Babin said that Jackson has been asked to justify the use of the credit card for those transactions and others but that he has not heard from him on the issue.
"If they were for private purchases, he would have to reimburse us," Babin said.
Check fraud alleged
Jackson is already facing an investigation by a U.S. Inspector General over allegations that he misspent federal grant funds while running his former nonprofit, New Mexico Family Council— Best Choice.
And Family Council officials say that they filed a report with the Rio Rancho Department of Public Safety on Thursday alleging that Jackson committed check fraud.
Family Council officials have also sent a demand letter to Jackson for a refund of at least two trips.
City records show that two trips made by the mayor— one to Fort Meyers, Fla., from Nov. 2-5, and another to Baltimore from March 18-21— were charged to the city credit card.
Family Council officials have said their records show that Jackson was reimbursed by that organization for those trips, as well.
Meanwhile, Jackson has had large increases in his mayor's budget in comparison to former mayors.
All of the Santa Ana Star Center charges fall under the "other costs" portion of the mayor's budget. Traditionally, that portion of the budget has been set at $500 a year.
Jackson's "other costs" budget has been increased to $9,600 through the fiscal year, which ends June 30, using transfers from other line items in the mayor's budget.
The total mayor's budget has increased about $18,000— to $83,000. Of that, about $69,000 has been spent.
Travel costs have gone above originally budgeted levels and an increase of about $8,500 has been added this year.
Jackson, who started the Family Council in 2001 and managed it until three weeks ago, was fired amid allegations of "mismanagement" of federal grant funds, including giving himself a raise from $62,000 to $85,000 without board of directors or grant administrator consent.
The Family Council also cited questionable travel expenses and unauthorized donations to other nonprofits as reasons for the firing.
2008 WILL ROCK THE PIT.....
Anonymous said...
Kool!
March 16, 2007 1:27 PM
Anonymous said...
Do Rio Rancho Parents have no rights!!!!!!!?????????
Is their anyone else out there that wants to invite their extended relatives to their son or daughters graduation? Please, who has only 6 relatives to invite, unless you only have one kid, no aunts?
Uncles, cousins and only one set of grandparents then yes you are fine. But what about the graduates that have 2 sets of grandparents, 12 brothers and sisters and their wives or husbands, their kids and their other aunts and uncles on the other side. We have always supported our nieces, nephews, cousins, grandchildren and want to when she/he graduates and accepts her/his diploma. Why should we not be allowed to go see them graduate and feel their excitement that they are finally finished with one chapter in their life.
March 16, 2007 2:21 PM
Anonymous said...
Yeahh to the RR BLOG!!!
March 16, 2007 2:42 PM
ET said...
Who had the right to change the graduation ceremony from The Pit to the Santa Ana Star Center without everyone’s input?!
Doesn't the graduating class of 2007 have a say in where they want to celebrate this great achievement that they have worked so hard for, 13 long years, and this is how they are treated as if they do not matter?!!
Where is our governor, our mayor, our leaders of this community that are supposed to help and support our young citizens? Don’t they matter?
They are the VISION of Rio Rancho and by what you do for them in this situation will impact them. Please show them they matter by speaking up and changing the ceremony “back to The Pit”. If you need be go to the school and ask them what they want, contact all of the families then that would be fair.
I know that many are VERY STRESSED about this situation and how they will decide who can or can't go see them receive their diploma. What a shame that it had to come to this with everything else they have to be concerned about along with their finals.
I know this isn’t the first email you have received asking for this change and it won’t be the last! Please think how you would feel if it were your son, daughter, niece, nephew, grandson or granddaughter? Would you be doing more if it was????
March 16, 2007 4:20 PM
2007 SENIOR said...
http://rioranchogradsunite.blogspot.com/
!!!!!!!!!!!!!ATTENTION SENIORS!!!!!!!!!!!!
· PLEASE CONTACT http://rioranchogradsunite.blogspot.com/ or email: cmj2nc@aol.com TODAY!
· CALL RRPS DISTRICT TODAY IF YOU OR YOUR PARENTS ARE CONCERNED ABOUT GRADUATION BEING CHANGED TO THE SANTA ANA STAR CENTER (896-0667 SUPERINTENDENT & SCHOOL BOARD).
· TELL THEM YOU WANT IT AT “THE PIT”
· MAKE SURE YOUR PARENTS KNOW YOUR GRADUATION ANNOUNCEMENTS WILL STILL SAY “THE PIT” ON THE ANNOUNCEMENT BUT THERE WILL BE AN INSERT STATING THE CHANGE (HOW TACKY) YOU CAN STILL GET A REFUND.
· REMEMBER THERE IS ONLY ONE LANE ENTERING AND ONE LANE LEAVING THE CENTER IMAGINE THE MESS FOR BOTH STUDENTS AND PARENTS HAVING TO DRIVE THERE.
· WE SHOULD HAVE A SAY IN WHERE WE WANT TO GRADUATE; REMEMBER SENIORS IN THE WORDS OF OUR PRINCIPAL “THE CHOICE IS YOURS!!!!!!!!!!”
March 16, 2007 4:32 PM
MEDIA said...
EMAIL THEM:
schoolboard@rrdo.rrps.k12.nm.us, nmiqgovima@state.nm.us, robert.sjostrand@jostens.com, theobserver@rrobserver.com, news@rrobserver.com, wduncan@rrhs.rrps.k12.nm.us, dnsimmons@rrhs.rrps.k12.nm.us, district@rrdo.rrps.k12.nm.us, opinion@abqjournal.com, kvesely@rrdo.rrps.k12.nm.us, target7@thenewmexicochannel.com, news@kobtv.com, sandrade@hearst.com, dick.knipfing@krqe.com, erika.ruiz@krqe.com, krqesoundoff@krqe.com, cizaguirre@hearst.com, mmaez@hearst.com, mgarofalo@hearst.com, jjojola@kobtv.com, administration@ci.rio-rancho.nm.us, cmj2nc@aol.com, mayor@ci.rio-rancho.nm.us, PStephenson@rrhs.rrps.k12.nm.us, mhartranft@abqjournal.com, romero@rrhs.rrps.k12.nm.us, asweet@rrhs.rrps.k12.nm.us, parentconnect@rrdo.rrps.k12.nm.us, Arteche@rrhs.rrps.k12.nm.us, DKelly@rrhs.rrps.k12.nm.us, pivy@rrhs.rrps.k12.nm.us, plopez@rrhs.rrps.k12.nm.us, aeveleth@rrhs.rrps.k12.nm.us, Dobson@rrhs.rrps.k12.nm.us, Moreno@rrhs.rrps.k12.nm.us, rgalindo@rrhs.rrps.k12.nm.us, Simmons@rrhs.rrps.k12.nm.us, barbour@rrhs.rrps.k12.nm.us, yvalencia@rrhs.rrps.k12.nm.us, Romero@rrhs.rrps.k12.nm.us, webmaster@rrdo.rrps.k12.nm.us, vonancken@rrhs.rrps.k12.nm.us, service@Jostens.com, rmartinez@abqjournal.com, sspalding@kobtv.com, rdereyes@kobtv.com, van.tate@krqe.com, SStucker@kobtv.com, JLucas@kobtv.com, mike.powers@krqe.com, Roland.Glembine@krqe.com, annie.mccormick@krqe.com, jen.jackson@krqe.com, bill.diven@krqe.com, cornelas@kobtv.com, cmahoney@kobtv.com, adarveaux@kobtv.com, jmaher@kobtv.com, gschwartz@kobtv.com, aantonio@kobtv.com, ekahnert@kobtv.com, nbrady@kobtv.com, jvigil@kobtv.com, caragon@kobtv.com, tjoles@kobtv.com, KOBWebmaster@kobtv.com, edreher@rrdo.rrps.k12.nm.us, kkobam@citcomm.com, Talkradiojim@aol.com, ebriseno@abqjournal.com, barmijo@abqjournal.com, editor@abqtrib.com
March 16, 2007 4:37 PM
Max & Joan said...
Max and Joan agree 100%
OUR PURPOSE
Whatever the merits of moving the Rio Rancho High School graduation ceremony to the Santa Ana Star Center in Rio Rancho, the decision should have been made before rather than after families had begun planning. Extended family members have already made travel plans and requested vacation times in anticipation of attending the ceremony for which they may not now get tickets. It is apparent there was not enough public deliberation about this issue. A decision affecting the entire school population should have been discussed publicly so that all voices were heard prior to the decision, particularly since the number of seats available to family and friends of the graduates has been reduced by more than two thirds. Please join us in moving the graduation ceremony back to The Pit. Sign the Petition by adding a comment to the open thread.
March 16, 2007 4:48 PM
West Mesa ALL-STAR said...
Subject: What's wrong with you!!!!!
I am in disgust of your decision to change the Rio Rancho’s graduation ceremony from the pit to Santa Ana Casino! My niece is graduating from Rio Rancho this year and because of you and your “too good to drive more than 18 miles” parents I won’t be able to watch her receive her diploma! I know this isn’t the first email you have received asking for this change and it won’t be the last! I urge you to reconsider this decision!!!!
March 16, 2007 4:53 PM
PHX 4 said...
RIO RANCHO GRADUATION SITE
Please relocate the graduation ceremony to The PIT as our family will not have enough tickets for all of us to witness our nieces graduation.
Thank you
March 16, 2007 4:58 PM
OBSERVER news: said...
RANTS & RAVES:
"What gives the school board the right to have my daughter graduate from the Santa Ana Star Casino Center without even asking me? In my day, each of the high schools graduated on their own football field, what the hell's wrong with that? I don't want my kid going to the Santa Ana Star Casino Center. C'mon, Sue Cleveland, do things properly, ask the parents, or we can vote you out."
March 16, 2007 5:07 PM
BACK TO THE PIT NOW!: said...
Rio Rancho Observer - Rants and Raves:
"Oh, Rio Rancho school board, what a huge mistake you have made concerning this year's graduation. Did you think to ask the parents of graduates, and the community, where graduation should be? What about the relatives who have already bought expensive airline tickets to attend our son's graduation and will not be able to attend because our family will not be able to get the tickets we need. Maybe they can stay at our house while we attend the ceremonies. We don't care about it being cheaper to rent the Santa Ana Star Center, the convenience; our son wants his family there, that's what is important. What kind of kickback is the school board getting for holding graduation there? Thanks for the big notice on the change; if we had known earlier, we could have let our family know so they could have saved their money and told them not to buy a plane ticket so they could sit on our couch."
March 16, 2007 5:09 PM
Praying.....we go back to the pit!; said...
RE: Rio Rancho High School Graduation 2007:
"1. To the Attention of Superintendent, Dr. Sue Cleveland and the School Board, we have been informed through the news media that Mr. VonAncken your high school Principal has only received 10 emails? Well get ready to receive a whole lot more and add this to the collection of concerned parents. We are looking forward to seeing the three of you on Monday. We have been informed by Mr. VonAncken that all of the concerns of families affected here were taken into consideration? If true then this is very alarming. This is a much bigger deal then your poor decision concerning Good Friday, please change your mind concerning using the Pit. The information copied here in this document has not been addressed, both Mr. VonAncken and Mr. Duncan's responses skirt only certain concerns listed here by our good friends that took the time out of their important day to share this with us. Mr. VonAncken and Mr. Duncan are puppets in this, both of their responses confirm they copied off the same sheet of paper. I am waiting for Dr. Cleveland and each member of the School Board to respond to a tax paying, voter, active in all school events supporting, parent. Dr. Sue Cleveland and the School Board please respond to me and all of our/my concerns added here. Dr. Sue Cleveland I have always liked you but you are so very wrong on this one. This poor decision will follow you the rest of your legacy and I am praying you see this. You can't do what you are doing here with important concerns that out weigh your well-intended plan. Just stop and take good look at all the people affected here. Please Sue before we are way past the point of no return and we’re close. The center will understand your decision to change your mind here. Tear up this contract you state you agreed to. Sue Cleveland here is a golden opportunity for many thousands of people to applaud you and you really need to consider the opposite of that. It is not too late yet, call the business putting the inserts in and making tickets, he is gonna get hit with a lot of refunds, mine for sure. Tickets Sue? Next year or when ever they open your named school then you can have those tickets made. Call the center and call the Pit please you are going to get a standing ovation for this trust us on this one. Take several steps back and then really carefully read all of these points here - I want you to know I have shared this - all of this with many other professionals in various professions - they are like a reality show observer and very interested in knowing how this will play out. They see the big problems with your current last minute decision in this matter along with your reasoning - they see the many thousands of persons affected by you and they also see the buck stops with you. They too conclude the ramifications will be extremely long term, the printed graduation announcements themselves bear written witness to this bad decision as both locations are listed on each announcement, (no one is going to like that little point of interest). Dr. Sue Cleveland we are counting on you to pull up - please!
Mr. VonAncken and Mr. Duncan all I need from you is to make sure Dr. Cleveland and the entire School Board gets this lengthy document- all of this – and know it is updated constantly, thanks.
I will look forward to your response Dr. Cleveland along with the School Board’s.
Thank you of your time
and thank you Junior for your compilation of information about this major problem.
signed, Praying
Post Script:
I suggest you carefully reread all of this information here, because I added to it myself it continues to grow - it is like a moving growing blog against your decision."
March 16, 2007 5:12 PM
quoting - go rams! said...
"RIO RANCHO BASKETBALL TEAM YOU JUST ROCKED THE “PIT”,
YOU JUST WON YOUR FIRST STATE CHAMPIONSHIP;
MR. VONDUNCAN ENCOURAGED YOU AND ALL STUDENTS
TO “SHOW THEM WE OWN THE ‘PIT’!!
….AND YOU DID!!
WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO NOW?
“WE’RE GOING TO DISNEY LAN….WAIT….NO…..
WE WANT TO GO BACK TO THE “PIT” FOR OUR GRADUATION, WE OWN IT NOW!!
DID YOU SEE HOW MANY FANS WE HAD THERE?! IT WAS GREAT-GO RAMS!!!"
March 16, 2007 5:49 PM
lizard said...
The Rio Rancho High School Principal left parents out of a significant decision. Parents were told the graduation would be held at the PIT which holds up to 17,000 people. The STAR Center, at most, might hold 7500. This year, RRHS has one of the largest graduating classes in recent history. Plans should have been discussed with the people it most affects. Last year the PIT was packed with families and the graduating class was not as large. Let's rethink this now!
March 16, 2007 7:21 PM
To Lizard: said...
Hello Lizard,
Thank you for joining in.
Exactly 4,500 tickets were printed so the Rio Rancho venue is going to be tight! Because 750 Seniors times 6 tickets equals 4,500!
You are right "The PIT" will hold 18,000+ and for the Graduation it is blocked off to hold 15,000 to 16,000.
You are right on target about this significant decision and the fact RRHS does have largest graduating class in NM and in their school's history.
This decision is affecting 10,000+ people especially the Seniors and their Loved Ones!
You are right, "Let's rethink this now!"
Please pass on the blog space:
http://rioranchogradsunite.blogspot.com/
and this email address:
cmj2nc@aol.com
we need to get out this message to everyone, thanks again
Sincerely,
Sam Cooke can sing
March 16, 2007 7:45 PM
Awesome Blog said...
Awesome BLOG.
I agree, we need Gov. Richardson to negotiate this matter “BACK TO THE PIT”
Where are you Bill?
Where is Marty, visiting Bill Clinton,
Marty Chavez we need you now!
Action Jackson, Mayor of Rio Rancho, where are you?
Susie Cleveland lets go “BACK TO THE PIT”
Where have all our leaders gone?
March 16, 2007 8:03 PM
Ed's Mom said...
Oh my gosh I just got this blog info from my best friends daughter, she is graduating with my son Ed!
Our hats off to you guys that got this going, we are all for going back to the PIT!
Ed’s Mom
March 16, 2007 8:15 PM
Rio Rancho said...
Rio Rancho High School, we agree and support your return the UNM PIT,
Frank and Betty
March 16, 2007 8:21 PM
take it back to the pit said...
when you all open the other high school then you can have your graduation in rio rancho because until then RRHS will continue to have the most seniors graduating year in and year out who is keeping count? if i know that how is it the ones responsible for this somehow forgot that? that is why a new school is needed right? we fully support the have the graduation at the pit.
March 16, 2007 8:30 PM
Constitution said...
We the people of the United States, in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.
A blogger commented how this whole graduation change stepped on peoples rights.
The entire history of our government was to escape bad government, bad and unfair decisions, bad practices, bad leaders.
What really bothers me is our children are involved.
The event is an important chapter in their lives.
They are seeing first hand another history lesson.
Democracy did not play a part in this poorly planned change and that is why I am joining in on this push to address the graduation.
Even if this situation affected two people it is wrong.
After reading the newspaper and reading several emails this is affecting thousands.
I completely see why it was changed and there are those that support the change.
But when you consider how this was handled then you scratch your head and wonder how well paid, educated people forgot the opening lines of THEIR Constitution, they forgot their history and at the expense of our children.
What also stands out and causes me to cringe is the very same people have charge over our children.
They will read these words and not understand what they did and what they are doing is wrong.
These same individuals will look in the mirror and say "I'm ok".
Our children are our most precious part of our community and should not be taken for granted at any expense.
The contract is now the excuse they are so diligently clinging to and hiding behind in order to right their wrongs.
The Star Center should also know their history and let the school out of this contract.
It should have never been about the money it should have always been about the children, our children.
March 16, 2007 9:19 PM
Joey T said...
JOEY T said...
BACK TO THE PIT, COUNT OUR FAMILY IN......
March 16, 2007 4:22 PM
March 16, 2007 9:29 PM
Extended family of 11 in support of said...
“BACK TO THE PIT
FAMILY AND FRIENDS OF RIO RANCHO HIGH SCHOOL GRADUATES DISCUSSION GROUP”
After reading your blogs, newspaper stories, and the koat newscast we are behind you.
Dr. Cleveland we want this graduation at THE PIT, thank you.
Extended family of 11 in support of
J and J
March 17, 2007 7:18 AM
Anonymous said...
My daughter wants all of her family at her graduation. Mom, dad, sisters, brother, aunts, uncles, grandparents and cousins. That comes to 16! Don't make her choose who gets to go and who gets to stay home. We all want to celebrate with her. BACK TO THE PIT! Graduates and parents should have had a choice, it's our graduation, not the administrations!
March 17, 2007 7:42 AM
grapevine0691 he said she said...
The University Arena
"The Arena"
"The PIT"
Sports Illustrated's Top-20 Sports Venues of the Century:
In June, 1999, Sports Illustrated listed its top-20 sporting venues of the century and The Pit checked in at No. 13.
“Sports Illustrated in 1999 named The Pit one of the Top 20 sporting venues of the 20th century — a list that includes Yankee Stadium, Wrigley Field, Pebble Beach and Daytona International.
Yeah, that’s big-time company. That’s like being compared to Babe Ruth, Joe Louis, Man O’ War, the Roman Empire, George Washington, Marlon Brando, Katharine Hepburn.
When you make an elite list like that maybe something special had to happen in The Pit above and beyond Lobos basketball.
And it did.”
There is beaucoup (bookoo) history and memories regarding "The PIT"! It is now 41 years young! I remember as a kid walking past from a distance as they prepared to build it. Gigantic hills were formed as they removed dirt.
“Famous hole has hosted superstars, special events… It’s probably the most famous hole in the ground since the Grand Canyon. It’s almost aged as well, too. Just look at some of the characters who have brought their acts to The Pit over the past 40 years: Michael Jordan, Mick Jagger, the Eagles, Jimmy Valvano, Dennis Rodman, Jethro Tull, Kareem Abdul Jabbar, Steve Nash, Elton John, James Taylor, Alonzo Mourning, Led Zeppelin, Christian Laettner, Luciano Pavarotti, George Strait, Patrick Ewing, John Wooden, Bobby Knight, Rick Pitino.” Stevie Wonder, Magic Johnson, Santana, Larry Nance, John Thompson, Bill Cosby and that’s the short list!
The name "The Arena" or "The PIT" were always popular titles when talking about the great concerts that took place there.
"The PIT" known for incredible Basketball, at the Professional, Collegiate and High School level. My Brother helped Coach a State Championship there!
And of course UNM and High School Graduations all at "The PIT"!
If you were fortunate to have had your graduation there either from High School or UNM or both there is a fondness about the place and you have to love the name, "The PIT"! Perhaps it was the event, but there is an undeniable "energy" there. Sure its a hole in the ground but if will always remain a location of celebration, accomplishment, music, history, success, defeat, incredible wins and gut wrenching losses, woulda, coulda, shoulda, lore, myth, legend, fact, fiction, blood, sweat and tears and forever simply, "The PIT".
I am sure there has been some very good stories written and told about the various events that have taken place there (see blow). Santana played there in the early 70's, the concert was ranked in the top 4 among all concerts that summer throughout the southwest.
Endless sports stories, concerts and graduations, I remember a graduation when the entire graduating class of Eldorado High School as well as families in the audience gave the principal a standing ovation this was in 2001 or 2002, that was impressive?
Last year they estimated over 11 million people have come to the Lobo games, that does not include ALL of the Graduations, concerts, etc.!
“Bill Cosby took on the Lobos 31 years ago and came out on top”
"What a terrific atmosphere for college basketball. Great building...great history...18,000 screaming fans. It's big time hoops, baby!" - Dick Vitale ESPN
“The Pit got its nickname because it is literally a pit dug out of Albuquerque’s Southeast Mesa. The roof was built first, then dirt was excavated to create a large hole. The arena floor is 37 feet below ground level. In 1966-67, season tickets for Lobos men’s basketball were $20 for bench seats and $30 for chairbacks. A single-game ticket was $2.50.
The opening season in The Pit featured 15 home games. The highest ranked Lobos team to play in The Pit was the Lobos men of 1966-67 who achieved a No. 3 ranking in January 1967.”
“One of college basketball's most famous and recognizable buildings, University Arena is the home of New Mexico men's and women's basketball.
The Pit is built in a 37-foot hole on Albuquerque's southeast mesa. First the roof was constructed, then the hole was dug and the Arena built. That all happened in 1966. The unique Behlen roof (338 by 300 feet) was set up by contractors and then 55,000 cubic yards of earth were removed. About 28,000 yards of concrete were poured in the initial construction, which allowed a seating capacity of 14,831. The cost - an incredibly economical $1.4 million.
Arena expansion was undertaken when it became apparent that fan interest was too great even for the original structure. The expansion in 1975 cost near $2.2 million and involved the extension of a cantilevered deck above the existing facility. There are six rows in the deck, with a seating capacity of 2,300. Reserved standing-room-only spots increase The Pit's capacity to 18,018.
The 2006-07 season will be the 41st year that University Arena has served as home for Lobo hoops. The first game was played Dec. 1, 1966, with New Mexico defeating Abilene Christian, 62-53. A total of 704 games have been played overall. The Lobos have come away the victor in 569 of those, good for a stunning .808 winning percentage.
What is even more impressive about UNM's home court is that over 11 million fans have flocked into this sunken edifice to see their beloved Lobos play basketball. The exact figure stands at 11,023,733. The Lobos have averaged an astounding 15,659 fans the past 40 years, an amazing 97% of capacity.
The Lobos have finished second in the nation in attendance five times, third on four occasions, and fourth six times.
2005-06 Attendance Numbers
The University of New Mexico is one of very few schools to have both its men's and women's basketball programs rank in the top-25 in attendance during the 2005-06 season. The Lobo women were fourth while the men finished No. 21. The UNM men and women have both finished in the top-25 in each of the past eight seasons.
The rankings:
Although the men's average of 13,387 is its lowest in 25 years, UNM has still finished in the top-25 for 40 consecutive years, or every season the Lobos have played in The Pit. No other school in the country can make that claim.
UNM hosted the NCAA Championship in 1983, won by North Carolina State over Houston, the 1968, '78, '92 and 2000 West Regional, the 1985 and 1996 West Region First and Second Rounds, and 1988 McDonald's High School All-American basketball game. The NCAA Men's First and Second Rounds were here in 2002 followed by the Women's First and Second Rounds and the Midwest Regional in 2003. UNM hosted the women's first and second rounds again in 2004, followed by the men's Albuquerque Regional in 2005 and the West Regional for the women's tournament in 2006. The Pit will again host NCAA women's tournament action in 2008 and 2009.
The UNM women's basketball team is also enjoying the home court advantage The Pit offers. Over the past nine seasons under current head coach Don Flanagan, The Pit has become one of the rowdiest places in all of women's college basketball. The women have compiled a home record of 159-32 (.832) over the last 11 years. The women's team has also been in the top-10, nationally, in average attendance in each of the last eight seasons. In 2006, the women's team averaged 10,355 fans per game, fourth in the NCAA, and posted a 16-2 record. On nine different occasions, the women's squad has sold out The Pit. Five times they have filled it to the 18,018 regular season capacity. Four times they sold out NCAA tournament games when the capacity was over 16,000. Each of these nine games has come since the 1999 season.”
Rio Rancho, “Go BIG or stay HOME”! “The PIT” is the Biggest venue in the state!
Ironically, I already wrote my Brother is the Uncle of this years Graduate from Rio Rancho, who helped Coach a State Championship at "The PIT", he also graduated at "The PIT" and lives in Albuquerque but will not be able to attend this Graduation because we won't have enough tickets and this is my Brother's favorite Nephew!
I have read a lot of diplomatic emails, I've read several comments back and forth when this all started here in March with good news coverage by KOAT and then very one-sided editors from the newspapers writing without the entire facts.
Read all of those emails sent to you and then please "PASS IT ON!
RIO RANCHO BASKETBALL TEAM YOU JUST ROCKED “THE PIT”,
YOU JUST WON YOUR FIRST STATE CHAMPIONSHIP;
MR. VONDUNCAN ENCOURAGED YOU AND ALL STUDENTS
TO “SHOW THEM WE OWN ‘THE PIT’!!
….AND YOU DID!!
WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO NOW?
“WE’RE GOING TO DISNEY LAN….WAIT….NO…..
WE WANT TO GO BACK TO “THE PIT” FOR OUR GRADUATION, WE OWN IT NOW!!
DID YOU SEE HOW MANY FANS WE HAD THERE?! IT WAS GREAT-GO RAMS!!!
http://epaper.abqjournal.com/Repository/ml.asp?Ref=VEUvMjAwNi8xMS8wOSNBcjAzMDAw&Mode=HTML&Locale=english-skin-custom
http://epaper.abqjournal.com/Repository/ml.asp?Ref=QVRMLzE5OTkvMTEvMTIjQXIwMzUwMA==&Mode=Html&Locale=english-skin-custom
http://epaper.abqjournal.com/Repository/ml.asp?Ref=VEUvMjAwNi8xMS8wOSNBcjAzMjAx&Mode=HTML&Locale=english-skin-custom
http://www.abqtrib.com/search/?q=%22the+pit+at+40%22&search_submit.x=0&search_submit.y=0
March 17, 2007 8:38 AM
i know u said...
DITTO!
TO ALL THE "BLOGS" HERE!
GREAT SITE!
THANK YOU red rabbit
March 17, 2007 8:51 AM
aunt mary said...
These bastards are discriminating against large families!
March 17, 2007 10:05 AM
Dan z. said...
I agree with Aunt Mary they are discriminating against large families and against the graduate that has more then six (6) people that would be honored to attend their graduation and were invited. I agree with this blog site take it back to the PIT!!
March 17, 2007 10:26 AM
Marcos said...
ATTENTION: SENIORS, PARENTS, GUARDIANS, FAMILIES, RELATIVES, STUDENTS AND CONCERNED PERSONS
Please visit the web log, copy and paste this into your browser
http://rioranchogradsunite.blogspot.com/
You can also email: cmj2nc@aol.com if you have any problems posting comments on the blog, thank you.
We are a group of families that would like to have the Class of 2007 Graduation returned to "The PIT."
At minimum, let’s put this matter to a fair vote.
We are respectfully asking Dr. Sue Cleveland to make the decision to return to "The PIT."
RRPS has broken contracts before and can break this contract now and go "BACK TO THE PIT."
We need all persons that want the Graduation to be returned to "The PIT" to let your voice be heard.
In an unprecedented administrative decision, input was NOT allowed to be given by everyone affected. Only certain voices were heard.
This last minute decision affected more than 10,000 people.
We have heard all the reasons given by the administration and strongly feel they do not outweigh the fact that a fair process did not occur in the first place concerning this matter.
Please go online now. We have every right to be heard. "It’s not over till it’s over."
BACK TO THE PIT
FAMILY AND FRIENDS OF RIO RANCHO HIGH SCHOOL GRADUATES DISCUSSION GROUP
Please visit the web log, copy and paste this into your browser
http://rioranchogradsunite.blogspot.com/
You can also email: cmj2nc@aol.com if you have any problems posting comments on the blog, thank you.
March 17, 2007 10:49 AM
"It’s not over till it’s over" said...
Mike and Julie agree:
ATTENTION: SENIORS, PARENTS, GUARDIANS, FAMILIES, RELATIVES, STUDENTS AND CONCERNED PERSONS
Please visit the web log, copy and paste this into your browser
http://rioranchogradsunite.blogspot.com/
You can also email: cmj2nc@aol.com if you have any problems posting comments on the blog, thank you.
We are a group of families that would like to have the Class of 2007 Graduation returned to "The PIT."
At minimum, let’s put this matter to a fair vote.
We are respectfully asking Dr. Sue Cleveland to make the decision to return to "The PIT."
RRPS has broken contracts before and can break this contract now and go "BACK TO THE PIT."
We need all persons that want the Graduation to be returned to "The PIT" to let your voice be heard.
In an unprecedented administrative decision, input was NOT allowed to be given by everyone affected. Only certain voices were heard.
This last minute decision affected more than 10,000 people.
We have heard all the reasons given by the administration and strongly feel they do not outweigh the fact that a fair process did not occur in the first place concerning this matter.
Please go online now. We have every right to be heard. "It’s not over till it’s over."
BACK TO THE PIT
FAMILY AND FRIENDS OF RIO RANCHO HIGH SCHOOL GRADUATES DISCUSSION GROUP
Please visit the web log, copy and paste this into your browser
http://rioranchogradsunite.blogspot.com/
You can also email: cmj2nc@aol.com if you have any problems posting comments on the blog, thank you.
March 17, 2007 10:54 AM
"It’s not over till it’s over" said...
Arnold and Lee agree to BACK TO THE PIT
March 17, 2007 10:57 AM
Chuck and JoAnn said...
please take the time to read all this input and return this graduation to the pit, thank you.
March 17, 2007 11:00 AM
uncle glen said...
Who is going to pay for my families airline tickets? I cannot get a refund now. This has to go back to the pit!
March 17, 2007 11:04 AM
hope we are not too late said...
“BACK TO THE PIT
FAMILY AND FRIENDS OF RIO RANCHO HIGH SCHOOL GRADUATES DISCUSSION GROUP”
After reading your blogs, newspaper stories, and the koat newscast we are behind you.
Dr. Cleveland we want this graduation at THE PIT, thank you.
March 17, 2007 11:06 AM
this is cool said...
“BACK TO THE PIT
FAMILY AND FRIENDS OF RIO RANCHO HIGH SCHOOL GRADUATES DISCUSSION GROUP”
After reading your blogs, newspaper stories, and the koat newscast we are behind you.
Dr. Cleveland we want this graduation at THE PIT, thank you.
THANK YOU FOR SETTING THIS UP I HOPE IT DID NOT COST YOU TO MUCH?
March 17, 2007 11:08 AM
Driving to; Parking; Leaving; Driving home! said...
THINK ABOUT THIS!!!
Everyone here has a good point but really, really think about this:
Driving to; Parking; Leaving; Driving home!
How much traffic comes in and out of the pit when you are at an event?
But at least there you have 4 different ways to get in and out and a new 4 lane freeway out, so the time to get home if you live in Rio Rancho or on the west side is maybe a half an hour or so, not bad.
At the Santa Ana, with 700 to 750 students, which at least three fourths and more will be driving themselves, since they have to be there 2 hours early. Or their parents will be driving them. Plus school staff and Santa Ana staff that have to get there to prepare. Then all the families will be driving and the other fortunate ones that get to go, so total you are looking at a lot of automobiles driving there all at once. You will have to drive through Rio Rancho to get to a 2 lane road, with ONLY a 1 lane entrance, now that is dangerous! Could and accident occur? Yes! That will not cut down on driving time it will take you longer.
What about the parking?
That too, is going to be a major mess, and will not properly accommodate all of those vehicles. That will also add to the delay before the graduation even starts.
Now when it is time to go home you are looking at all those people and cars trying to get out of an area that has ONLY 1 way out and back to a 2 lane road! Here you are looking at a long wait if you are lucky and with no accidents. If there is an accident it is really going to be a major mess because then everyone heading in that direction will have to wait, do you get the picture?
I’d rather be coming out of the pit with more ways out to help us if something goes wrong, where if God forbid someone gets in an accident, at least you can find a way to turn around or find another road to turn on to.
What if someone gets in an accident coming from or going to the Santa Ana, where are our choices to get out of traffic? WAIT, there are NONE because there is ONLY 1 way in and 1 way out and it is a 2 lane road with NO turn around area anywhere except when you are on 528 or Northern!!!
TO ALL OF THE OFFICALS WHO CHANGED THIS!!
Start praying no one gets hurt on their way there or the way home because then you will have legal problems to deal with! God forbid a loss of life occurs!
Nobody wants that?!
Better yet change the graduation Back to the Pit and avoid all this.
THINK ABOUT THAT!!!!!!!
March 17, 2007 11:57 AM
Julie said...
AMEN!!!!!
I agree with “Driving to; Parking; Leaving; Driving Home”
TO THE OFFICALS WHO CHANGED THIS,
Yes, just like they wrote, going to and from the Pit you have 4 different ways to get in and out and a newly constructed 4-lane freeway.
The Rio Rancho location only has 1 way in and 1 way out with no way to turn around.
If a member of my family gets hurt I will be holding you accountable to the fullest.
Yeah…….THINK ABOUT THAT!!
Julie
cc: Attorney
March 17, 2007 12:07 PM
tear up the contract said...
Yes, tear up the contract!
“BACK TO THE PIT
FAMILY AND FRIENDS OF RIO RANCHO HIGH SCHOOL GRADUATES DISCUSSION GROUP”
After reading your blogs, newspaper stories, and the KOAT newscast we are behind you and support returning to The Pit.
Dr. Cleveland we want this graduation at THE PIT, thank you.
March 17, 2007 12:11 PM
Nancy and Greg said...
“BACK TO THE PIT”
March 17, 2007 12:13 PM
Brad back to the Pit has said...
I'm on my lunch break, this blog deal is really great. My mom said to check out the weblog because everyone is concerned. Thank you for being concerned enough to get involved. Seniors lets tell them we want to go back to the PIT.
Shout out to Becky!
March 17, 2007 12:19 PM
i said...
Take you back...
do do do do
take you back...
oh...
take you back...
do do do do
take you back
to the PIT!!!!
(song from the movie Rocky i added the last line)
March 17, 2007 12:26 PM
auntie m said...
auntie m said...
Okay, I finally saw the KOAT footage by Rod Green. It is very well done. It would not play on my mac, but it did on my pc. I'm surprised the school did not revisit their decision after this aired. It made them look really stupid.
Excellent newscast, copy this info here into your browser (there will be a short commercial first):
www.koat.com/video/11177714/index.html?taf=alb
or go to first page of this blog and look for "NEWS COVERAGE" and click on KOAT-TV it will take you to the newscast.
March 17, 2007 2:08 PM
Rio Rancho, “Go BIG or stay HOME”! said...
Rio Rancho, “Go BIG or stay HOME”! “The Pit” is the Biggest venue in the state!
This ain't over until the lady sings, we are just getting warmed up, believe it!
Rio Rancho, you have the largest Graduating Class in the entire State and School History what will you do now?
Well we are not going to Disneyland.....NO!!! We are going to have our graduation in Rio Rancho so our money WILL NOT be spent in Albuquerque (as stated by the administration) but NO wait the administration OK’d our announcements, cap & gown, class ring and pictures to be bought in Albuquerque?! Hey, at $100 a pop that is $75,000 or at $180 a pop that is $135,000 or at $200 a pop is $150,000, get the picture? Someone other then Rio Rancho is making out good! Do you realize after all is said and done over $500,000 is being spent in Albuquerque on the whole enchilada anyway?
Our Basketball Championship games leading to the finals were at “The Pit" where everyone that we know seemed to make it there with no complaints of the drive, and all done in Albuquerque. (Which was one of the complaints it was too far (17 miles) and dangerous to drive to the graduation but not for the games, and on several different days Rio Rancho drove there because we kept winning and WON IT ALL!?) We have numerous families in Rio Rancho that are season ticket holders to events at the “The Pit” and other events taking place in Albuquerque where the venue is over 18,000+ persons.
FYI: At “The Pit" you have at least 4 ways to enter from and leave North, South, East and West with at least 3 lanes and a newly constructed Freeway you can use going to or when leaving! Lets compare the venues, who knows how long it will take for us to get to and out of the Santa Ana with the whole 2 ways to get there on a 2 lane road with only 1 lane going in and only 1 lane going out, just exactly like a bottle neck, there are no U turns on this little journey. That sounds like fun to me, make sure the family members that received the “golden ticket” and that are allowed to go, all bring their DVD or CD players while driving to and then leaving to get back home that depending on where you live in Rio Rancho is 15 minutes away, each way, that is with no heavy traffic either. Yes this Graduation is going to take a lot longer then 15 minutes drive time each way both going and coming. Also, take a jaunt out there yourself time it from your driveway all the way to where you stop, where you actually park, it will take some of us longer, and speaking of parking, that is going to be a mess! Don’t forget ONLY 1 way in and 1 way out. Did they take into account people other then Rio Rancho and from Albuquerque or even other cities in the state as well as out of state will be coming to this Graduation? This is very important, not everyone going lives in Rio Rancho! You did not take that into consideration.
The decision lends itself with all of the limits placed on it to: no outsiders allowed! We decree by order of VonDuncan and the “many”, at the very last minute - in Rio Rancho, for Rio Rancho, by Rio Rancho, God forbid if you have more then 6 guests!! 2 Parents, 2 Siblings and only 1 set of Grandparents, that is 6, too bad for “Grammy” and “Grampa”, the other set of Grandparents! If you don’t fit into that cookie cutter template logic if you by chance have an extra family member, then you are out of luck, too bad so sad. And to hell with the Aunts and Uncles and Cousins! Draw straws, that is a great idea! Arm wrestle that’s better yet! And to all you folks that bought airline tickets in advance, …shucks. Or if you worked like hell, extra hours or O.T. to have these days off….oops. Oh and the “extra” tickets available, those will be few and far between because 4,500 divided by 750 is 6! But not everyone will need 6, true but based on previous year’s numbers for person’s attending and the fact this is the Largest Graduating Class ever, both mathematically and logically there will be “many” more Seniors that will need more then 6 tickets! We know because several of the Graduates have stated that “everyone” is asking for extra tickets. Think about it a 15,000-person venue down to a 4,500-person venue, WE NEED TICKETS!!
You say, in the past “we always got ‘The Pit’ on a bad day” well not this year, we have in on a Saturday at 4 PM.
And it is very sad to read in the newspaper, people actually condemning those that just happen to have a larger inner circle of more then 6! The attitude is like shame on you for wanting so many tickets, you know if one family needs 2 tickets tops or less, that’s cool, and if one family needs 20 tickets more or less, that’s cool too! But to condemn anyone that have more in their network is ignorance. Just think about the last high school graduation you went to that was not your own child then think about the one you went to that was not related. Now, after you have done that we only go to graduations that we want to go to because of our history with the graduate. We criticize and punish the person graduating because of too many contacts, how very sad. The persons complaining wrote it was “ridiculous”, that narrow-minded mentality is what is “ridiculous” not those that have a larger inner circle of people. More power to you if you know people that want to come witness your achievement! FYI: Our state has one of the highest dropout and suicide rates in the country, just ask Dr. Cleveland. So obtaining your High School diploma is outstanding!
But large sums of money were saved? So says the administration. Yes exactly $1,990.06 was saved! Great that means the 15,000 seats available at “The Pit” for $8K is a much better deal then the 4,500 seats at the hockey rink for $6K? Wait a minute we better ask someone Graduating who can add, if you do the math, each seat at the rink actually costs more then each seat at “The Pit”? Somehow by that logic if both seats are priced the same we should be only paying a total $2,385.00 for the use of the rink not $6,000.00! Again, that total ($2,385) is based on if both the seats at both venues cost the same.
Speaking of more savings, too bad the decision makers don't pay for the graduation accessories that we have to pay for, bought in Albuquerque not Rio Rancho. If you don’t know, Jostens who is handling the announcements was also affected by this last second poorly planned decision. It is too late for them to take out “The Pit” and the location!!! OOPPSS!! It is already etched in stone so to speak, in all of the announcements! (That is NOT going to look good) And because of the downsizing with this last minute decision we now have a surplus of incorrect announcements, much more then we needed in the first place! Now with all the extra announcements that we paid for, now we have to put a total of 2, yes Dos inserts in them, the administration's insert and now our own insert (how professional looking) because the original announcement will in fact still read the Graduation is at “The Pit", maybe with a thick black magic marker we could draw a large X thru that? But hopefully they will see the first insert, which will explain, no it's not at “The Pit" that portion is wrong it is at the “Santa Ana Star owned by the Casino Center hockey rink” here is a map to show you how to get to the 2 lane road after you have driven thru Rio Rancho, (the professionals spent a lot of time clarifying that little tid-bit of info-the name of the venue, even an editor chimed in) but hopefully we who paid for now too many announcements because of the terrible last minute change without everyone’s input are praying they somehow they will see the second insert stating you can't go we are just teasing you, we only have 6 tickets so we can be like “all the other districts” that can ONLY use their Gym, (although if these districts were 17 miles away would love to use “The” storied “Pit”) unlike us with the State’s largest Graduating Class and can use “The Pit”. HEY, No inserts needed if we stay at “The Pit”. Whether you choose one or two inserts to try to explain this debacle in your announcement it won’t look good and will be confusing. So to those lucky ones that won’t be able to go, just send your regards to your Sister or Brother, or Granddaughter or Grandson or favorite Relative that will be Graduating and we the limited family members that flipped a coin to get in, will tell you how it went!
According to the administration of course the most important part of all this graduation, is, it will be in Rio Rancho at the best facility they could get, so that our Graduates can limit the number of members of their families to see them Graduate after 12 years of working hard and they don't get to decide where they want it, the district did it for them, and with only 2 months to go, thank you so much for the early notice, you allowed us no real time to prepare. Even though we had plans that have to be completely changed! People that purchased airline tickets, took time off, etc. We have nothing else going on in our lives. To change venues with such short notice is affecting our Graduates along with thousands of people, and the administration is OK with that?!
Sadly, in the “words of wisdom” from Rio Rancho High School’s own principal’s mouth, where is says, “the choice is yours.” Clearly this is not true even though it has been stated everyday on the announcements he gives. Not ALL of the Seniors had a say a “choice” in this and it is THEIR DAY, right? Not ALL the parents/guardians had a say a “choice” in this and it is THEIR CHILD’S DAY, right? Only a certain few received this important privilege. Just think about that for a minute or 2, how unfair is that? The “Class Song” is “Dream On”, and that is exactly what VonDuncan and Cleveland has told the Class of 2007, “oh you would like your graduation to be returned to ‘The Pit’ Seniors”? “Well ‘Dream On’ Seniors”.
We heard the excuse, “we couldn’t get all the Seniors on the floor last year if we go the the hockey rink we can”. I’m not sure what has changed on the floor of “The Pit” but check and verify this fact, I know I was present in the early 70’s, Sandia High School graduated 2 classes with over 900+ students on the floor and one class which is the Largest Class ever in NM history, with over 1,000+ Seniors all on the floor. So you might want to see why or how that was. Basically, it can be done.
Because of issues with past Graduations but last years in particular, the Class of 2007 and those closest to them get to feel the brunt of the penalty that they are innocent of. What an interesting lesson in life, forget about the stress this ripple affect is causing right now, the decree has spoken. Forget about what is right or wrong or fair and unfair, the decree has spoken. Forget about the fact your announcement will be tacky and confusing and you have much more then you needed, the decree has spoken. Forget about the fact we disrupted your plans and peoples lives, the decree has spoken. Forget about the fact this is YOUR DAY, this is a Celebration, and ALL of your supporting cast does not have to be present, the decree has spoken. Forget about the fact we told you at the last minute, gave you no fair warning with input coming only from the privileged and the administration, sprinkled with a few politicians, the decree has spoken!
An editor and the administration all referred to the “many” that wanted this, what is the problem with putting this to a vote, right now? You will all find out the actual “many” want this event at “The Pit”. Our Seniors will have to revert back to their grade school days, you print up what 750 notes home with 2 boxes to check on the note - “The Pit” or no “Pit”, parents and guardians along with each Senior will vote. Unlike the decree that has been imposed upon everyone, where only a certain “many” voices were heard and acted on, simply, that decision that act in itself is so wrong and so very unfair, this is America right? (The school Board is supposed to uphold the Constitution of the United States, just ask them). Make sure you number each one of these notes that way they can be counted fairly. Add a few lines so the Graduate and their Parent/Guardian can print and sign. If you have a better idea, wonderful as long as the vote process is fair. If the vote comes back no “Pit”, then the editor, the administration and the so called “many” had a finger on the pulse and IF the vote comes back “The Pit” then Hallelujah! Times a wastin’!
At this point, no fair or reasonable explanation can out weigh ALL the reasons why the Graduation should be at “The Pit”. Go ahead and weigh each and every matter honestly and fairly, both sides, the “proof is in the pudding”, fact, the way this entire decision was imposed has been handled, is wrong and very unfair. If it were above board, we would not be writing this.
Sincere apologies if I offended anyone with my sarcasm, I’ve read several comments back and forth when this started here in March with some good news coverage and then very one sided editors chiming in, contradictions and so on, so like a magnet I am jumping in.
And like those before me read everything below and then please "PASS IT ON!
RIO RANCHO BASKETBALL TEAM YOU JUST ROCKED “THE PIT”,
YOU JUST WON YOUR FIRST STATE CHAMPIONSHIP;
MR. VONDUNCAN ENCOURAGED YOU AND ALL STUDENTS
TO “SHOW THEM WE OWN ‘THE PIT’!!
….AND YOU DID!!
WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO NOW?
“WE’RE GOING TO DISNEY LAN….WAIT….NO…..
WE WANT TO GO BACK TO “THE PIT” FOR OUR GRADUATION, WE OWN IT NOW!!
DID YOU SEE HOW MANY FANS WE HAD THERE?! IT WAS GREAT-GO RAMS!!!
March 17, 2007 9:40 PM
PASS IT ON! said...
Quoting a famous movie line - "We are mad as hell and we are not going to take it"!
We concur with the blog and count us in as a family against this negative decision imposed upon our children, PASS IT ON!:
Excellent newscast, copy this info here into your browser (there will be a short commercial first):
www.koat.com/video/11177714/index.html?taf=alb
March 17, 2007 9:46 PM
Please help! said...
2. Please help! We are asking you all please change the Graduation back to the “Pit”; the date is still open and available at this venue. For the “GREATER GOOD” GO BACK TO THE PIT! Hey even our Basketball Team and Fans had to go to Albuquerque for the entire tournament and Rocked the Pit”!
March 17, 2007 9:49 PM
# 3 said...
3. 2007 - Largest Graduating Class in the entire state and in our school’s history.
March 17, 2007 9:50 PM
# 4 said...
4. The venue change is simply too small, 14,000+ persons attending reduced down to 4,500. Mr. VonAncken said “4,500”.
March 17, 2007 9:51 PM
# 5 said...
5. With only 2 months to go we were just informed of this change, but up until March 2007 we have always been of the clear understanding that “The Pit” was the location, we were given no forewarning at all, this is absolutely too short of notice, plans, invitations, time off and out of state airline tickets had already been purchased. The timing to inform us is absolutely terrible; this completely throws off our plans along with several thousands of others.
March 17, 2007 9:57 PM
# 6 said...
6. The Class of 2007 and their Loved Ones are being punished and made the guinea pigs.
March 17, 2007 9:57 PM
# 7 said...
7. The actual average amount of persons attending per each Senior for prior Graduations was about 19, some would have more, some less but that is the average, within the last few years there was no official ticket (Dr. Cleveland said the Class of 1999 was at Johnson Gym). And within recent years Rio Rancho has always packed “The Pit”. But now there are tickets and it has been limited to exactly 6. Also there is a claim that 2 extra tickets will supposedly be given out to bring the total to 8 however this will still not remedy this poor plan. No amount will remedy this because 4,500 seats is around 10,000+ persons short that won’t be allowed to attend. Mathematically 6 times 750 equals 4,500 so not very many Graduates will be getting over 6 tickets.
March 17, 2007 10:04 PM
# 8 said...
8. Safety, yes, all of the other facts listed here speak for themselves. We have the Largest Graduating Class, EVER AND EACH GRADUATE HAS A SUPPORTING CAST THAT ABSOLUTELY DESERVES TO BE IN ATTENDANCE, ENOUGH SAID.
March 17, 2007 10:05 PM
# 9 said...
9. SERIOUSLY…SIMPLY, WHAT PRICE DO YOU PLACE ON A CELEBRATION OF LOVE AND LIFE?! THE COST THE SAVINGS THAT MRS. CLEVELAND AND MR. VONANCKEN ALLUDE TO ABSOLUTELY DO NOT OUT WEIGH WHAT WILL BE COMPLETELY LOST! YES, EVEN TO ATTEMPT TO PLACE A PRICE ON THIS ENTIRE PROCESS, CELEBRATION AND EVENT IS INAPPROPRIATE BECAUSE IT IS TRULY “PRICELESS”! TO ARGUE THIS IMPORTANT POINT IS IGNORANCE AND…..WELL….VERY WRONG.
March 17, 2007 10:07 PM
# 10 said...
10. AGAIN, EACH GRADUATE HAS A SUPPORTING CAST THAT ABSOLUTELY DESERVES TO BE IN ATTENDANCE!
March 17, 2007 10:08 PM
# 11 said...
11. If you take EVERYTHING into consideration, both sides of the coin, ALL of their points, and now their explanations and contradictions to not concede. This is a mess; we cannot even begin to explain how bad this truly is. The very Best thing they can do at this point is to take this celebration this Graduation back to “The Pit" and then they can regroup for next year, that way Graduates and Loved Ones can actually be allowed input for next year. It won’t be one sided like now and the powers that be would have a whole year to explain their logic.
March 17, 2007 10:08 PM
# 12 said...
12. Please consider this very important fact, if they put it to a vote now right now, the Graduation would go back to “The Pit" please really think about this, they are displacing over 10,000+ persons!
March 17, 2007 10:09 PM
# 13 said...
13. Please consider at this time is the very end of the year, the very end of their 13 years in school, and consider the stress this is placing on our Graduates and their Loved Ones?! Is anyone taking that into consideration? 2007 will be the year they truly remember when their own Family, Relatives and Loved Ones at the last minute were denied the opportunity to see them Graduate, even though this was planned before hand. We already had 2 Children Graduate at “The Pit”; we surely are not going to forget this Graduation. We are very upset right now!
March 17, 2007 10:11 PM
Lila said...
· A High School Graduation is a very important celebration! An accomplishment of what you have completed in your life. As "Pomp and Circumstance" begins to play a myriad of memories and emotions flood into your mind, you see this young woman or young man dressed in their Graduation attire, glimpses of Pre-school, their Kindergarten and First Grade Graduations seem like only yesterday! “Did 13 years really pass by, you ask yourself?” You and Everyone that joined you for this moment are so very proud. Some will have tears of joy, some will clap, whistle and holler, but without a doubt a feeling of happiness will dominate your senses. And those that were with you through the good times and even the difficult times will beam with honor! “She did it-He did it!” You will remark or think yourself! Please know this celebration includes a Graduate(s) and Everyone that helped make this happen, through influence, nurturing, encouragement and love. Again, this process involves Everyone, not a limited number due to a facility change at the last minute. Please know each process, each individual has their own unique story along with the supporting cast involved. You only Graduate from High School once in your life. Please carefully consider everything herein and understand your well-meaning intentions do NOT outweigh all of the reasons to allow this very important celebration to remain at “The Pit” and the several thousands affected.
March 18, 2007 7:35 AM
Mr. VonAncken should have said...
· In the High School announcements on 3/5/07, Mr. VonAncken stated the venue would not be changed back to “The Pit” and would remain at the center. On a very interesting note he always ends his daily announcements stating the “choice is yours”, on this day (3/5) as he stated this again, he actually chuckled, he literally chuckled as if though a “Freudian slip” in that he lied, because the reality is that the choice is NOT the Seniors and all Students it never was! It was his and Mrs. Cleveland’s all along.
March 18, 2007 7:39 AM
Jack said...
· On a very positive proactive note we are aware of 3 petitions that the Seniors themselves have started, but this is a difficult task with connecting with other students due to schedules and classes. We applaud these future leaders for “stepping up”. Mrs. Cleveland, the school board, Mr. VonAncken and company should take particular note.
March 18, 2007 7:44 AM
Rita said...
· In a KOAT newscast on television Mr. VonAncken contradicted himself, from what he advised the newspaper. He advised reporter Rod Green that he would leave it up to the student to secure any extra tickets beyond the allotted 6!!! That is going to be interesting! Now it us up to the student!!!! Surely, each student graduating have many other important tasks to take care of with only two months left in the school year? This is what he told Rod Green! Consider how unfair this process is to secure extra tickets? This confirms how poorly planned the “let’s just wing it” now thinking is in full affect! Please share this with others KOAT-TV newscast with reporter Rod Green, (hats off great news report) check this out, copy this info here into your browser there is a short commercial so please be patient: www.koat.com/video/11177714/index.html?taf=alb
March 18, 2007 7:55 AM
Philip C. said...
· Herein, confirms that the person or persons involved in making this last minute decision/change did not take into full account all of this information! If this was not a last minute decision, then why did it take until March 2007 to spring it on us? Was there a vote? Was balanced input solicited? Who, What, When, Where, Why and How did this come about? Please be respectfully advised that we are not in the minority here, we are in the majority here and absolutely not at all happy with this last minute change! Lets put it to a vote now.
March 18, 2007 7:59 AM
the casino said...
· The casino . . . seriously, the casino, please tell me it is not true that the power or powers that be, decided to have a important event for young Women and Men Graduating, also where babies, young children and Loved Ones will come to this important event at the casino??!! NOTE: per Barbara Armijo at the Journal/Tribune newspaper, it will be held at the “CENTER”, the casino owns the center – hockey rink. OK! So…it is officially the Santa Ana Star owned by the casino/center hockey rink, yes? But another note: Quoting Jake Rigdon with the Journal in his recent piece, YES he referred to this location as "The Star Casino", this was on the front page, oops he must notta' got the memo?!!
March 18, 2007 8:22 AM
13 years at RRPS said...
· At the beginning of the year at the Senior Assembly when the Seniors were being told about ordering their cap and gowns and graduation announcements both Mr. Duncan, the activities director and Mr. VonAncken said that the class of 2007 would most likely be the biggest graduating class in New Mexico and in the history of Rio Rancho and that there are Seniors that have been going to RRPS their whole lives and they would like to do something special about that this year. It was absolutely clear the venue would be “The Pit” and their would be no limit on people attending. Therefore, plans, ordering announcements, buying airline tickets, scheduling time off were ALL done prior to this change! They were well aware of this! This also means they were well aware that just by the very size of the class graduating would indicate the strong likelihood that potentially more persons would be in attendance then all of the previous graduations!
March 18, 2007 8:32 AM
RRPS agenda book said...
· Regarding your decision to change this year’s Graduation to the owned by the Casino/Center hockey rink. The Rio Rancho High School Agenda Book clearly states the Graduation will be at “The Pit”. And with that original information this is what we all used to plan out this important event in our Child’s life. Your Website also confirms it will be at “The Pit”.
March 18, 2007 8:35 AM
full refund said...
· Our Graduate’s Graduation announcements and keep in mind as well as numerous other families’ announcements were ordered with the understanding the Graduation would be at “The Pit”. Had we known the location would be changed this would have influenced our purchase of these announcements and the amount needed.
· Why would we have wasted money on announcements that are inviting many people to an event they can’t go to? Most of the tickets are going only to immediate family. People with large families and a large network are penalized. Not so at “The Pit” venue.
· “The announcements do say The Pit, however, there is an insert being done for the new location with a map”. This is the exact quote by Jostens, the business doing our announcements; we have requested that they provide us with a full refund, as we will cancel this order. We are encouraging others to do likewise.
March 18, 2007 8:43 AM
blog blog blog blog blog said...
oh man, I really like your blogspot. we support everyone rising to this task, blog on and “seize the time” go back to the PIT Rio Rancho, NM!
Roy S.
March 18, 2007 8:51 AM
Largest Graduating Class said...
· The Largest Graduating Class in Rio Rancho history and the largest Class in the state. To place the largest Class in a smaller venue is not a well thought out plan at this late notice no matter what the logic.
March 18, 2007 9:04 AM
what now said...
· Family, Loved Ones, Friends have already booked flights and taken time off because it was our understanding prior to March 07 that this event was going to be at “The Pit”. Please know that these are flights that cannot be refunded. What now?
March 18, 2007 9:08 AM
6 tickets said...
· 6-ticket limit. One Graduate, has 4 Grandparents, 2 Parents, that equals 6 tickets, but what about divorced families that would now have 6 Grandparents and 4 Parents, that equals 8? That does not even include Sisters, Brothers, Aunts, Uncles, Nieces, Nephews, Cousins, Loved Ones, Neighbors, past Teachers, Employers and Friends!
March 18, 2007 9:08 AM
don't punish us said...
· Last year’s Graduation easily had over 14,000 people in attendance, there is no way a facility that holds 6000 people but then adjusted down to 4,500 seats for the graduation would be able handle this size event. You are now cutting it down by more then two thirds! Again, this is punishing this year’s Seniors and Loved Ones.
March 18, 2007 9:09 AM
007 said...
· We heard last year’s Graduation had a rowdy crowd and security was an issue? Please do not penalize the class of 2007 that cannot be blamed for last year.
March 18, 2007 9:10 AM
security said...
· We heard even if they have it at “The Pit” they would still limit the tickets to 6 due to security! How much is the cost of additional security? Again the Class of 2007 should not be penalized! Please remember that this is a celebration.
March 18, 2007 9:12 AM
Joe G said...
· We ourselves witnessed 3 Graduations at “The Pit” last year because of our Nephews Graduating, “The Pit” more then handled the flow of people coming to celebrate. These very same Graduations would not have fit in a 4,500-seat facility. And we would have not been able to be present for each of our nephew’s Graduations if it was limited to 6. We filmed each of these events for our Sister and Brothers and our Nephews, a gift that they will always cherish.
March 18, 2007 9:19 AM
Joy said...
· We the Parents and Graduates should have been advised about this change in August 2006 not this late, not barely now in March 2007, that is terrible planning! Who voted? Who decided? Input should have been requested by everyone not to a few that voiced their concerns. Or the “many” as is being explained now, there are “many” more that want this at “The Pit”. Input should have been asked of Everyone! How could this have been overlooked? Lets vote now!
March 18, 2007 9:22 AM
cesar's way said...
As a senior at Rio Rancho, I would like to have the graduation moved back to University Arena. I have a large family – some of which are flying overseas to attend – that have bought tickets and now cannot attend. If funds are an issue, why can’t the school have a fundraiser?
Cesar
March 18, 2007 12:15 PM
scorpsrule19 said...
I’ve been to the Santa Ana Star Center several times as a hockey fan, and I’m curious as to how traffic is going to be handled at graduation. The Scorpions get about 2,000-2,8000 fans a game, and there are two traffic cops at every game handling a very congested parking lot. How in the world can the poorly designed parking lot handle well over 5,000 people? ScorpsRule19
March 18, 2007 12:16 PM
mark said...
I don’t ever recall a school board meeting regarding the original decision to move the location of graduation. It’s very difficult to believe that a majority of parents, some of who aren’t yet aware of the venue change or the ticket limit, made this decision.
Mark
March 18, 2007 12:17 PM
Very Discouraged said...
Most graduates take pride in completing high school, and would like to enjoy this seminal moment with friends and family. The administration of Rio Rancho High School has done a disservice to the students, their families, and the entire community by moving graduation to the event center. Mr. Richard Von Ancken should remember that this is the students’ time to shine, not the time for him to push around his weight.
Very Discouraged
March 18, 2007 12:19 PM
ECV said...
If Dr. Cleveland is so worried about graduates and their families driving down to the Pit, why did the high school encourage students to drive there to celebrate the basketball team reaching the state finals? I sense a bit of hypocrisy from the higher-ups in Rio Rancho.
ECV
March 18, 2007 12:19 PM
WILLIAM said...
THAT TAKES THE PROVERBIAL “CAKE”!
INPUT FROM ONLY A CHOSEN FEW OR WHO YELLED THE LOUDEST!
NOT EVERYONE WAS ALLOWED TO VOTE OR GIVE ANY INPUT!
DISTRICT’S EGO IS HURT BECAUSE THEY WERE BOOED LAST YEAR!
NO WONDER THEY WERE BOOED!
DECISION TO CHANGE JUST HAPPENED AND NOT EVERYONE KNOWS ABOUT IT, I JUST GOT AN EMAIL TODAY!??
WHAT IS UP WITH THAT, I NEVER GOT THE MEMO?
PLANS HAVE ALREADY BEEN MADE!
DISTRICT IS NOW USING THE WE ALREADY SIGNED THE CONTRACT EXCUSE!
I OWN A PAPER SHREDDER!
10,000 PEOPLE THAT WANT TO BE THERE CAN’T BE THERE!
ANNOUNCEMENTS STILL HAVE “THE PIT” ON THEM, THAT IS BEYOND TACKY, THAT IS RIGHT ABOVE B. S. IN MY BOOK!
LAST I CHECKED WE LIVE IN AMERICA!
WE HAVE RIGHTS, HERE!
IF THE DISCTRICT GETS AWAY WITH THIS SMOKE AND MIRRORS JOB, WE HAVE ALL JUST WITNESSED A CRIME!
OH MY GOODNESS GRACIOUS, THESE PEOPLE HAVE HAD AUTHORITY OVER OUR KIDS!
I AM FURIOUS!!!
I ALSO WANTED TO THANK ALL OF YOU THAT PUT THE BLOG TOGETHER YOU REALLY DID A GREAT JOB I WILL PASS IT ON!
I WOULD LIKE TO WRITE HOW I REALLY FEEL BUT I THINK YOU WOULD NOT WANT TO HAVE SUCH ANGER, RAGE, PROFANITY IN YOUR NICE WEBSITE!
WILLIAM
March 18, 2007 12:39 PM
JAMES said...
ditto to what William just wrote! I think I might just pop I'm so mad! PLEASE WAKE UP RRPS!
March 18, 2007 12:43 PM
John changed his mind said...
Ok, wow!
I just saw the koat newscast and I am most interested in all of the names of school staff that decided this? I am also interested in knowing how many people wanted this change? I WOULD LIKE THE GRADUATION IN RIO RANCHO TOO, BUT NOT LIKE THIS! This is not how anyone should conduct business, especially when our youth are involved our own kids. My son told me it would be going to be in Rio Rancho and I was pleased. But not so pleased to rip-off thousands of families. I won’t have a ticket problem but I am more aware now of many families that will. The bottom-line: this is absolutely wrong I am 100% for returning this graduation and all the future graduations to the UNM PIT, until, repeat, UNTIL, EVERY SINGLE FAMILY AFFECTED HAS HAD CHANCE TO PROVIDE THEIR VOICE IN THE MATTER!
The idea to have the change when the new school is built sounds ok, but we still need everyone’s say in this. Everything written on the blog space here makes great sense. I do like the reasons to have it here but too many people are getting the short end of the stick, this is very unfair.
John L.
March 18, 2007 1:03 PM
Mark said...
· The concept that Graduates are being asked to return tickets is at best wishful thinking because common sense dictates that the majority of students won’t return their tickets. And for various reasons! Again, placing other needy Families at their mercy. This strategy again, verifies that this was not planned well. What percentage will actually do this, who will be in charge of the returns, and who gets them? This sounds good in theory but in practice will be very problematic. Since you have never done this before it will be very difficult to do for the very first time. Update: In a KOAT newscast on television Mr. VonAncken contradicted himself, from what he advised the newspaper. He advised reporter Rod Green that he would leave it up to the student to secure any extra tickets beyond the allotted 6!!! That is going to be interesting! Now it us up to the student!!!! Surely, each student graduating have many other important tasks to take care of with only two months left in the school year? This is what he told Rod Green! Consider how unfair this process is to secure extra tickets? This confirms how poorly planned the “let’s just wing it” now thinking is in full affect! Please share this with others KOAT-TV newscast with reporter Rod Green, (hats off great news report) check this out, copy this info here into your browser there is a short commercial so please be patient: www.koat.com/video/11177714/index.html?taf=alb
March 18, 2007 2:15 PM
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March 18, 2007 4:57 PM
BEN said...
Dr. Cleveland and Mr. VonAncken, I fully support you and respect all that you have to deal with, I am all the way on your side.
But I am motivated to write this to let you know that the way this entire matter was processed is absolutely wrong.
I think someone already wrote to allow everyone to have a say and that actually is the right way and is the way it has to be.
If we let this slide then who knows what will be next? It is too important and too many people are affected.
Yeah, I whole lot of people were booed last year and I did not agree with that. The only thing I will point out is we here in Rio Rancho are TOUGH! The graduation last year went on too long, people were getting restless and well, mad. If you think downsizing will help, well then you have not learned from last year. I have seen first hand what just 20 people can do if they choose to get rowdy. The Pit has had graduations since forever. There are many more things that fostered that and RRPS needs to take a good look at themselves in the mirror and that is actually the truth.
I did not agree with what happened at last year's graduation. But I sure don't agree with all of this.
It smells like, money as in kickbacks, or politics, or stupidity is driving this. What else could it be? Either someone is benefiting, or someone with power has an agenda, or you are deaf, dumb and blind? My apologies for being so blunt, but let us call it what it truly is. It is one of the three, or two of the three, or it is all three. If you stop and ask yourself why are we doing this hopefully you will find the answer.
I sincerely ask because what you are imposing and how you are imposing it is "DEAD WRONG". "I see said the blind man."
Additionally, if you would have had 4500 persons from last year’s graduation at the Star center, you would have still been booed. Consider that? Downsizing is not your problem. But what concerns me is with these shenanigans that you now refuse to bend on have only severely added to your woes.
Thanks for your time, and GO BACK TO THE PIT,
Ben
March 18, 2007 6:13 PM
Ben again said...
Go back to The Pit, because it is the RIGHT thing to do.
OR
Put it to a vote period and you will have all your answers and problems solved and then you did what you should have done in the first place.
It really is that simple.
Wise up, or forget about the "money and the contract", or tell who is ever driving this you won't do it, you won't do thousands of people and children wrong.
Sorry, but this blog dealy is bad to the bone!
March 18, 2007 6:34 PM
Anonymous said...
I fully support the petition. Our children and families shouldn't have to pay for this late decision. I hope all of my out of town relatives will get tickets, but I don't expect that to happen. This was handled very poorly and the decision should be reconsidered with the input of all the affected students and parents.
March 18, 2007 8:51 PM
Andrew said...
Why would you make a decision two months before graduation without a vote from your graduates? I've heard security was too much and that the venue is cheaper, why didn't you have a fundraiser or make the tickets a dollar each?! If it's about money then if 14,000 people showed up at the PIT like in previous years that would be $14,000! PLEASE change it back to the PIT!
March 18, 2007 8:59 PM
B. said...
I have worked my butt off in high school and my ENTIRE family has supported me in these twelve hard years of work and this is how you repay the class of 2007. It's not my fault you're only giving me six tickets, since RRPS is so good at making my decisions for me than maybe you can help me evaluate how I am going to divide up my tickets among my HUGE family.
March 18, 2007 9:01 PM
Re-think said...
I want my family to see me graduate and 6 tickets won’t be enough! Rio Rancho needs to re-think their decision!
March 18, 2007 9:02 PM
stressed out said...
Being a senior is very stressful because of everything we have to get done through the year and down the stretch and for me the graduation change makes my senior year a MILLION TIMES more stressful. Now I don’t get to have ALL of my loved ones see me graduate. Thanks for ruining one of the most important events of my life. I am sorry we are a very close family. I was really looking forward to graduation when I saw my cousins (with our ENTIRE family) graduate last year at the PIT from West Mesa and Eldorado, but now I'm not because not even half of them will be there. What a great way to show your appreciation to one of the largest graduating classes.
March 18, 2007 9:07 PM
cruel said...
· Now this plan that has just been unveiled allows us only 2 months notice, thus making it more hectic for families because of all the costs and sacrifices we now have to make regarding everything listed here. Cancelled plans, leave time, calling people and telling them they can’t come, no airline tickets etc. If you really took all of this into consideration like you claim you did, then that is very cruel of you! You don’t mind stressing people? You don’t mind allowing us hardly any time to really prepare? You don’t mind our child’s announcements are goofy? You don’t mind not asking everyone his or her thoughts on this? You stated “many” people complained, I have not met anyone yet that wants it in Rio Rancho, I read what the newspaper has put out but that read liked “canned” statements to me. An editor for the Albuquerque Journal wrote more people wanted it in Rio Rancho. May I state bluntly, that is a Damn lie! How in the hell do they know this? Show me proof that more people wanted it in Rio Rancho, you won’t because you can’t. If we put it to a vote right now, a fair vote, and more people say Rio Rancho they I will be happy to shut up. But they are afraid to put it to a vote because they know exactly what will happen. We should place bets and put this to a vote. RRPS will lose big time.
March 18, 2007 9:34 PM
Rick said...
· We would like to know at what meeting did the community decide this? There was no notice that this was subject to change. There was not a vote taken! The School Board did not even sanction this, this was a Mr. VonAncken, Mr. Duncan, Dr. Cleveland plan, Lets put this to a vote.
March 18, 2007 9:35 PM
observer news said...
Parent, reader rebuts rant on graduation ceremonies at the Star
Editor:
This is directed to the person who called in with a rant about the RRHS graduation.
I am sorry you have no relatives that want to share in your child's graduation ceremony. It must be a lonely life you have not having family that wants to celebrate such a huge accomplishment with you.
But from the tone of your rant, who can blame them?
The person who made the original rant was very sad that their child's grandparents all could not attend, not the silly reference you made to the "cousins of you stepsisters' half-brothers. You seem to be a very cold, selfish person.
My child doesn't graduate until next year and I will beg Sue Cleveland to reconsider having the ceremony at The Pit so all my child's siblings and spouses, and his 80-year- old grandparents, and his niece and whoever else that wants to share in this very emotional, happy time in my child's life can attend.
You keep your two extra tickets. I doubt you'll be able to get popcorn this night, but you enjoy. I hope your child has a happy memory and isn't hurt or upset because their extended family doesn't wish to attend.
I know someone will be good enough to give this person an extra ticket so the grandparents are all able to attend.
Not all people are as heartless as your rant leads me to believe you are. Just a question though. What do the football games and the band have to do with graduation, except that some of the band will be performing at the graduation?
Generally speaking, if I go to see my child play at halftime my family stays for the entire game and loudly roots for the football team (there is a lot of us). Do you applaud the band?
Yes, I am signing this letter, I am not ashamed of my feelings.
March 18, 2007 9:50 PM
Mary M said...
School Officials:
If you don’t change the graduation back to the Pit,
My daughter won’t be going to her graduation.
I will also cancel my announcements as we can’t invite everyone who wants to go so why hurt the other relatives that want to go. Thanks for your help in ruining my daughter’s graduation.
Hope this doesn’t happen to your child when they graduate.
It won’t because you will do what suits your own needs.
Mary M
March 18, 2007 9:52 PM
Vince said...
Take the GRADUATION back to the Pit like all of the other Rio Rancho graduations.
We won’t get to have all our loved ones there who have contributed to our getting our diploma and to celebrate and enjoy with us.
March 18, 2007 9:57 PM
America said...
PLEASE LISTEN:
Let the Graduates decide for themselves and then we can go from there.
This is America and we have the right to vote.
H. S.
March 18, 2007 9:58 PM
N. Kennedy said...
To Whom It May Concern:
I am writing in regards to the change of the graduation to the Santa Ana Star Center from The Pit that came up just 2 months prior to my granddaughter graduating.
I have been in my granddaughter’s life since she was born and so have her uncles, aunts, cousins (they are more like her brothers and sisters then cousins).
I was there when she graduated from kindergarten.
I was there when she graduated from 5th grade to go into middle school and
I thought I would be there when she graduated from high school.
But we don’t have enough tickets and to press you or anyone for more tickets just cheats someone else that is just as deserving, from going.
Don’t you all see that?
Sure there will be those that will have more then enough tickets because they were able to finagle them better.
Then that means someone else will go with out.
Someone wins someone loses, leave that to a sporting event not a person’s life.
At a family gathering we had on Friday, yes a total of 25 members of family and friends were present, who knew one girl could have that many special people in her life.
We never counted until now.
She had to tell all of us (I could tell it was the hardest thing she had to do) her uncles, aunts and cousins that the most rewarding and greatest achievement that she has accomplished so far, will not be celebrated with ALL of her family.
Only a few will be able to see her walk up proudly, take her diploma, look up at her family representing her and wish she could have had them all there like normal when we celebrate birthdays and any other special occasions.
Rio Rancho School system you took the right away from us and at such a short notice?
Don’t we get any say in this or have a vote I thought this was America?
I know others have already stated this but I’m going to state it again, I thought this was America?
Don’t the graduates get to decide where they want to have THEIR graduation? Please let her family celebrate with her and change it back to The Pit.
Please don’t stress the graduates more by making them choose who can or can’t go. Let her have everyone important in her life there.
She and all the other graduates need to focus on the graduation and not the harm you have already done to this special occasion.
Let them focus on what is important, their grades, planning what they will do from now on, they are all heading into the next phase of their lives.
I don’t write, see, hear or walk very well. I am not very good with words, sorry. But I want each of you to do is think of your grandfather and then your grandmother for a few minutes and think about how much they mean to you.
I’m way down the hill and who knows when the Lord is going to call me home?
It won’t be long.
I’m not asking for extra tickets I already explained that.
But, I am asking that we return to The Pit.
Please accept this for all of the other grandparents that can’t contact you or write you.
I know for sure they all want to be at the granddaughter or grandson’s graduation.
Let the change happen and see what a change will do to your school’s attitude.
Pay it Forward Now!!!!
Be the better person and speak up for our children.
I am praying that you understand and do the right thing.
N. Kennedy
March 18, 2007 10:29 PM
o say said...
If you have never read the words here is your chance
O say, can you see, by the dawn’s early light,
What so proudly we hailed at the twilight’s last gleaming,
Whose broad stripes and bright stars, through the perilous fight,
O’er the ramparts we watched, were so gallantly streaming?
And the rockets’ red glare, the bombs bursting in air,
Gave proof through the night that our flag was still there;
O say, does that star-spangled banner yet wave
O’er the land of the free and the home of the brave?
On the shore, dimly seen thro’ the mist of the deep,
Where the foe’s haughty host in dread silence reposes,
What is that which the breeze, o’er the towering steep,
As it fitfully blows, half conceals, half discloses?
Now it catches the gleam of the morning’s first beam,
In full glory reflected, now shines on the stream
’Tis the star-spangled banner. Oh! long may it wave
O’er the land of the free and the home of the brave!
And where is that band who so vauntingly swore
That the havoc of war and the battle’s confusion
A home and a country should leave us no more?
Their blood has washed out their foul footstep’s pollution.
No refuge could save the hireling and slave
From the terror of flight, or the gloom of the grave,
And the star-spangled banner in triumph doth wave
O’er the land of the free and the home of the brave.
Oh! thus be it ever, when freemen shall stand
Between their loved homes and the war’s desolation,
Blest with vict’ry and peace, may the Heav’n-rescued land
Praise the Pow’r that hath made and preserved us a nation!
Then conquer we must, when our cause it is just,
And this be our motto: "In God is our trust."
And the star-spangled banner in triumph shall wave
O’er the land of the free and the home of the brave.
March 18, 2007 10:34 PM
Abe said...
Four score and seven years ago our fathers brought forth on this continent a new nation, conceived in liberty and dedicated to the proposition that all men are created equal.
Now we are engaged in a great civil war, testing whether that nation or any nation so conceived and so dedicated can long endure. We are met on a great battlefield of that war. We have come to dedicate a portion of that field as a final resting-place for those who here gave their lives that that nation might live. It is altogether fitting and proper that we should do this. But in a larger sense, we cannot dedicate, we cannot consecrate, we cannot hallow this ground. The brave men, living and dead who struggled here have consecrated it far above our poor power to add or detract. The world will little note nor long remember what we say here, but it can never forget what they did here.
It is for us the living rather to be dedicated here to the unfinished work which they who fought here have thus far so nobly advanced. It is rather for us to be here dedicated to the great task remaining before us--that from these honored dead we take increased devotion to that cause for which they gave the last full measure of devotion--that we here highly resolve that these dead shall not have died in vain, that this nation under God shall have a new birth of freedom, and that government of the people, by the people, for the people shall not perish from the earth.
March 18, 2007 10:38 PM
the pursuit of Happiness said...
I still get chills when I read this, this is for all of RRPS. It might be a great idea that you really read this.
When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume, among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed, by their Creator, with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness.
That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles, and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.
Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object, evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.
Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let the Facts be submitted to a candid world.
He has refused his Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.
He has forbidden his Governors to pass Laws of immediate and pressing importance, unless suspended in their operation till his Assent should be obtained; and when so suspended, he has utterly neglected to attend to them.
He has refused to pass other Laws for the accommodation of large districts of people, unless those people would relinquish the right of Representation in the Legislature, a right inestimable to them and formidable to tyrants only.
He has called together legislative bodies at places unusual, uncomfortable, and distant from the depository of their Public Records, for the sole purpose of fatiguing them into compliance with his measures.
He has dissolved Representative Houses repeatedly, for opposing with manly firmness of his invasions on the rights of the people.
He has refused for a long time, after such dissolutions, to cause others to be elected, whereby the Legislative Powers, incapable of Annihilation, have returned to the People at large for their exercise; the State remaining in the mean time exposed to all the dangers of invasion from without, and convulsions within.
He has endeavoured to prevent the population of these States; for that purpose obstructing the Laws for Naturalization of Foreigners; refusing to pass others to encourage their migrations hither, and raising the conditions of new Appropriations of Lands.
He has obstructed the Administration of Justice by refusing his Assent to Laws for establishing Judiciary Powers.
He has made Judges dependent on his Will alone for the tenure of their offices, and the amount and payment of their salaries.
He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harass our people and eat out their substance.
He has kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies without the Consent of our legislatures.
He has affected to render the Military independent of and superior to the Civil Power.
He has combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution, and unacknowledged by our laws; giving his Assent to their Acts of pretended Legislation:
For quartering large bodies of armed troops among us:
For protecting them, by a mock Trial from punishment for any Murders which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these States:
For cutting off our Trade with all parts of the world:
For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent:
For depriving us in many cases, of the benefit of Trial by Jury:
For transporting us beyond Seas to be tried for pretended offences:
For abolishing the free System of English Laws in a neighbouring Province, establishing therein an Arbitrary government, and enlarging its Boundaries so as to render it at once an example and fit instrument for introducing the same absolute rule into these Colonies
For taking away our Charters, abolishing our most valuable Laws and altering fundamentally the Forms of our Governments:
For suspending our own Legislatures, and declaring themselves invested with power to legislate for us in all cases whatsoever.
He has abdicated Government here, by declaring us out of his Protection and waging War against us.
He has plundered our seas, ravaged our coasts, burnt our towns, and destroyed the lives of our people.
He is at this time transporting large Armies of foreign Mercenaries to compleat the works of death, desolation, and tyranny, already begun with circumstances of Cruelty & Perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous ages, and totally unworthy the Head of a civilized nation.
He has constrained our fellow Citizens taken Captive on the high Seas to bear Arms against their Country, to become the executioners of their friends and Brethren, or to fall themselves by their Hands.
He has excited domestic insurrections amongst us, and has endeavoured to bring on the inhabitants of our frontiers, the merciless Indian Savages whose known rule of warfare, is an undistinguished destruction of all ages, sexes and conditions.
In every stage of these Oppressions We have Petitioned for Redress in the most humble terms: Our repeated Petitions have been answered only by repeated injury. A Prince whose character is thus marked by every act which may define a Tyrant, is unfit to be the ruler of a free people.
Nor have We been wanting in attentions to our British brethren. We have warned them from time to time of attempts by their legislature to extend an unwarrantable jurisdiction over us. We have reminded them of the circumstances of our emigration and settlement here. We have appealed to their native justice and magnanimity, and we have conjured them by the ties of our common kindred to disavow these usurpations, which, would inevitably interrupt our connections and correspondence. They too have been deaf to the voice of justice and of consanguinity. We must, therefore, acquiesce in the necessity, which denounces our Separation, and hold them, as we hold the rest of mankind, Enemies in War, in Peace Friends.
We, therefore, the Representatives of the United States of America, in General Congress, Assembled, appealing to the Supreme Judge of the world for the rectitude of our intentions, do, in the Name, and by Authority of the good People of these Colonies, solemnly publish and declare, That these United Colonies are, and of Right ought to be Free and Independent States; that they are Absolved from all Allegiance to the British Crown, and that all political connection between them and the State of Great Britain, is and ought to be totally dissolved; and that as Free and Independent States, they have full Power to levy War, conclude Peace, contract Alliances, establish Commerce, and to do all other Acts and Things which Independent States may of right do. And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes and our sacred Honor.
March 18, 2007 10:48 PM
very "many" said...
· A newspaper article in the newspaper states “many” parents called asking to have the graduation changed to the Santa Ana Star owned by the casino/center hockey rink, there will now be “many more parents calling to complain that this was not a well thought out idea. Per the newspaper a handful of parents requested this? This does not go over very well to Everyone affected regarding the decision process and the person or persons behind it. “Many”? How many was “many? Lets put this to a vote, just do the math if 10,000+ persons can’t attend, then clearly there are “many” more then the “many” the administration is stating wanted this change, just think about this logically.
March 18, 2007 10:57 PM
Gino said...
· http://129.24.2.119/fbonline5/calendar.asp?filter=&month=5&day=19&year=2007&x=14&y=6 Please paste this info into your browser, or you might be able to click on it, the original Graduation date of 5/19 is still open. We can return to “The Pit”. Regarding your decision to change this year’s Graduation to the owned by the casino/center hockey rink - The Rio Rancho High School Agenda Book clearly states the Graduation will be at “The Pit”. This is what we used to plan out this important event in our Child’s life.
March 18, 2007 11:04 PM
knock knock said...
Knock! Knock!
who's there?
PIT!
PIT who!
PITiful decision by the school to change the graduation!
March 18, 2007 11:09 PM
CYNTHIA said...
Our Graduate has three (3) generations of over 50 relatives, including his parents and two (2) Brothers that Graduated at “The Pit”.
All of those generations no longer live in NM, but we are tight group.
We participate in Family Reunions and the turnout is huge.
Someone already noted not to penalize large families and this is true.
We need a lot more then six (6) tickets, sorry.
We adhere to the philosophy go forth and multiply, we did and we do.
Now we have an “owned by the casino/center hockey rink” venue to look forward to that is just too small.
We are talking in circles here and I have read and heard enough evidence to confirm the school’s decision is totally wrong and unfair.
Sorry, this inappropriate decision and how it is being forced upon everyone is way, way out of line. Quoting others here, “we have rights”, “this is America”, hell someone submitted the Declaration of Independence for goodness sake!?
But, they are right!
Because there was no input from everyone, no vote and no Democracy, more like hypocrisy and dictatorship!
There are some classic rebuttals here I have really enjoyed reading them, they all sing the same song when all is said and done.
In support of GO BACK TO THE PIT.
March 19, 2007 6:04 AM
loved the knock knock joke said...
We support what district office in Rio Rancho is doing in theory. We truly applaud you for that. We want to make that crystal clear.
Please take the time to carefully review everything submitted here. Every single rebuttal clearly counters any and all of your points, period. I am sorry but it is true. Everyone here makes an excellent point. Is the crux of this entire matter the security issue? The booing? What the cost would be? Past input from past boards?
Don’t punish the Class of 2007 for something they did not do, period. You are only saving $2K on the change and that means the 4,500 seats cost more then all of the potential seats at “The Pit”. We are paying more at the center per seat, period! You refer to input from past boards wanting it in Rio Rancho? The accurate facts are this current board maintains, “I see nothing, I hear nothing, I know nothing”! They are pointing the finger at you, district office! Past boards did not envision how BIG our schools were going to get! “Hindsight regarding all of the facts is 20/20”. We will probably break the state’s all-time record sometime soon; did the old boards see that coming? If they did then they should have realized that we would need a venue that could hold between 16 and 20K, not 4K, period. Sorry district office we like your idea in theory but the reality is this is not right, period. Not the way to bought and sold it. It is actually quite ugly because look at who is being impacted by it. The Pit is still available, renege on the contract and go back, period.
Sally
March 19, 2007 6:30 AM
sally again said...
So sorry about writing the word "period" so many times, yikes! My son just text message me and said to add, "you reap what you sow", transaltion, the way this has all been implemented is horrible and so so wrong and the ripple effect will not be positive now and in the long haul. I love my son, (period).
March 19, 2007 6:38 AM
Gary said...
it is not what you know it is who you know
it is not what you did rrps it is how you did it
in support of the return to the pit
lets not this one get by us lads
or it will be hell to pay
March 19, 2007 6:43 AM
comment 108 had said...
THIS BLOG SPOT REALLY REALLY REALLY IS GREAT KEEP UP THE OUTSTANDING WORK HERE WE ARE SO SO GLAD TO BE ABLE TO HAVE A VOICE IN THIS GIGANTIC MISTAKE AFFECTING OUR CHILDREN OUR FAMILIES OUR COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE
SUSAN
March 19, 2007 6:49 AM
thank you said...
Dr. Sue Cleveland,
Comes now the injured individuals.
The decision to vacate the University Arena for graduation ceremonies in May 2007 is erroneous and nefarious at best.
We ask for mercy and pray you see the complete facts as they have transpired.
We hold you fully responsible and find you completely culpable of any and all wrongdoing and include Richard Von Ancken.
As it is not our intentions to shame you publicly more so to reason with you on all correct and factual counts.
The injured specifically request you to reconfirm your original position and proceed with said ceremonies in whole at noted location.
As you are the responsible party and have full care of this matter in complete finality we encourage you Godspeed.
We further insist on your expeditious action.
Thank you.
March 19, 2007 7:25 AM
not crazy said...
Save my brother's sanity!
Please move the Rio Rancho High School graduation ceremony back to The PIT.
Right now, dammit!
March 19, 2007 8:42 AM
Dag nabit said...
"don't push me cause i'm close to the edge
i'm trying not to lose my head.....
it's like a jungle sometimes it makes me wonder" why you changed it from THE PIT?!
March 19, 2007 8:59 AM
George D said...
Dr. Sue Cleveland and Mr. Von Anken
Please be respectfully advised that after you have read everything here along with all of the newspaper statements, the news coverage, persons calling, petitions, discussions, complaints and you still don’t see the “Big picture”?
Then please put yourselves in our shoes - we absolutely were not given enough notice, we were not allowed to vote, there are people flying in, all of the expenses involved, elderly Grandparents, Relatives and Loved Ones that won’t get to go, along with over 10,000+ displaced persons and the clear fact the new venue is too small.
Each Graduate has a supporting cast that absolutely deserves to be in attendance!
And there are many, many more important reasons to have this celebration at “The Pit”.
We are truly shocked that you don’t get this?!
Then if you still don’t understand without a doubt we all have a very, very serious problem in RRPS, and it starts at the top.
The correct choice is so obvious even outsiders that have nothing to gain can unbiasedly see the problem and the simple solution in this matter.
George
March 19, 2007 10:00 AM
Lets vote now said...
Please allow the parents the legal guardians and seniors vote. Put this problem to a FAIR vote.
March 19, 2007 10:02 AM
Norm said...
Ditto:
Lets vote now said...
Please allow the parents the legal guardians and seniors vote. Put this problem to a FAIR vote.
Norm
March 19, 2007 10:03 AM
Monics said...
I also agree:
Lets vote now said...
Please allow the parents the legal guardians and seniors vote. Put this problem to a FAIR vote.
Monica
March 19, 2007 10:04 AM
Ernesto said...
Si,
Lets vote now said...
Please allow the parents the legal guardians and seniors vote. Put this problem to a FAIR vote.
Ernesto
March 19, 2007 10:05 AM
Julia said...
I am the mother of four children and writing this on behalf of my husband and family. Our son is graduating and we don't have enough tickets. Four grandparents, two parents and three siblings comes out to nine guests. We are three tickets short. A person noted earlier that they don't want to shortchange anyone out of a ticket, neither do we.
You are making us choose who will get to go and you are making us cheat someone else from going.
My son has asked for extra tickets and there is none available.
We are asking Dr. Cleveland to allow families and graduates to vote and return this celebration to the Pit.
Thank you,
Julia
March 19, 2007 10:15 AM
Julia said...
Sorry, I wrote a comment a little bit ago about needing nine tickets. I forgot to add that this completely leaves out aunts, uncles, cousins, neigbors etc.
You are making us choose who will get to go and you are making us cheat someone else out of going and you making us leave out family and friends we wanted to go.
We are asking Dr. Cleveland to allow families and graduates to vote and return this celebration to the Pit.
Thank you,
Julia
March 19, 2007 10:31 AM
2007 Seniors said...
http://rioranchogradsunite.blogspot.com/
!!!!!!!!!!!!!ATTENTION SENIORS!!!!!!!!!!!!
· PLEASE CONTACT http://rioranchogradsunite.blogspot.com/ or email: cmj2nc@aol.com TODAY!
· CALL RRPS DISTRICT TODAY IF YOU OR YOUR PARENTS ARE CONCERNED ABOUT GRADUATION BEING CHANGED TO THE SANTA ANA STAR CENTER (896-0667 SUPERINTENDENT & SCHOOL BOARD).
· TELL THEM YOU WANT IT AT “THE PIT”
· MAKE SURE YOUR PARENTS KNOW YOUR GRADUATION ANNOUNCEMENTS WILL STILL SAY “THE PIT” ON THE ANNOUNCEMENT BUT THERE WILL BE AN INSERT STATING THE CHANGE (HOW TACKY) YOU CAN STILL GET A REFUND.
· REMEMBER THERE IS ONLY ONE LANE ENTERING AND ONE LANE LEAVING THE CENTER IMAGINE THE MESS FOR BOTH STUDENTS AND PARENTS HAVING TO DRIVE THERE.
· WE SHOULD HAVE A SAY IN WHERE WE WANT TO GRADUATE; REMEMBER SENIORS IN THE WORDS OF OUR PRINCIPAL “THE CHOICE IS YOURS!!!!!!!!!!”
March 19, 2007 10:53 AM
Anonymous said...
Do Rio Rancho Parents have no rights!!!!!!!?????????
Is their anyone else out there that wants to invite their extended relatives to their son or daughters graduation? Please, who has only 6 relatives to invite, unless you only have one kid, no aunts?
Uncles, cousins and only one set of grandparents then yes you are fine. But what about the graduates that have 2 sets of grandparents, 12 brothers and sisters and their wives or husbands, their kids and their other aunts and uncles on the other side. We have always supported our nieces, nephews, cousins, grandchildren and want to when she/he graduates and accepts her/his diploma. Why should we not be allowed to go see them graduate and feel their excitement that they are finally finished with one chapter in their life.
March 19, 2007 10:55 AM
Brad back to the Pit has said...
I'm on my lunch break, this blog deal is really great. My mom said to check out the weblog because everyone is concerned. Thank you for being concerned enough to get involved. Seniors lets tell them we want to go back to the PIT.
Shout out to Becky!
March 19, 2007 10:56 AM
Betty said...
Rio Rancho High School, we agree and support your return the UNM PIT,
Frank and Betty
March 19, 2007 10:57 AM
lets vote said...
Please consider this very important fact, if they put it to a vote now right now, the Graduation would go back to “The Pit" please really think about this, they are displacing over 10,000+ persons!
March 19, 2007 12:34 PM
william said...
THAT TAKES THE PROVERBIAL “CAKE”!
INPUT FROM ONLY A CHOSEN FEW OR WHO YELLED THE LOUDEST!
NOT EVERYONE WAS ALLOWED TO VOTE OR GIVE ANY INPUT!
DISTRICT’S EGO IS HURT BECAUSE THEY WERE BOOED LAST YEAR!
NO WONDER THEY WERE BOOED!
DECISION TO CHANGE JUST HAPPENED AND NOT EVERYONE KNOWS ABOUT IT, I JUST GOT AN EMAIL TODAY!??
WHAT IS UP WITH THAT, I NEVER GOT THE MEMO?
PLANS HAVE ALREADY BEEN MADE!
DISTRICT IS NOW USING THE WE ALREADY SIGNED THE CONTRACT EXCUSE!
I OWN A PAPER SHREDDER!
10,000 PEOPLE THAT WANT TO BE THERE CAN’T BE THERE!
ANNOUNCEMENTS STILL HAVE “THE PIT” ON THEM, THAT IS BEYOND TACKY, THAT IS RIGHT ABOVE B. S. IN MY BOOK!
LAST I CHECKED WE LIVE IN AMERICA!
WE HAVE RIGHTS, HERE!
IF THE DISCTRICT GETS AWAY WITH THIS SMOKE AND MIRRORS JOB, WE HAVE ALL JUST WITNESSED A CRIME!
OH MY GOODNESS GRACIOUS, THESE PEOPLE HAVE HAD AUTHORITY OVER OUR KIDS!
I AM FURIOUS!!!
I ALSO WANTED TO THANK ALL OF YOU THAT PUT THE BLOG TOGETHER YOU REALLY DID A GREAT JOB I WILL PASS IT ON!
I WOULD LIKE TO WRITE HOW I REALLY FEEL BUT I THINK YOU WOULD NOT WANT TO HAVE SUCH ANGER, RAGE, PROFANITY IN YOUR NICE WEBSITE!
WILLIAM
March 19, 2007 12:38 PM
Phil said...
Herein, confirms that the person or persons involved in making this last minute decision/change did not take into full account all of this information! If this was not a last minute decision, then why did it take until March 2007 to spring it on us? Was there a vote? Was balanced input solicited? Who, What, When, Where, Why and How did this come about? Please be respectfully advised that we are not in the minority here, we are in the majority here and absolutely not at all happy with this last minute change! Lets put it to a vote now.
Phil
March 19, 2007 12:40 PM
ditto again said...
Ditto
SERIOUSLY…SIMPLY, WHAT PRICE DO YOU PLACE ON A CELEBRATION OF LOVE AND LIFE?! THE COST THE SAVINGS THAT MRS. CLEVELAND AND MR. VONANCKEN ALLUDE TO ABSOLUTELY DO NOT OUT WEIGH WHAT WILL BE COMPLETELY LOST! YES, EVEN TO ATTEMPT TO PLACE A PRICE ON THIS ENTIRE PROCESS, CELEBRATION AND EVENT IS INAPPROPRIATE BECAUSE IT IS TRULY “PRICELESS”! TO ARGUE THIS IMPORTANT POINT IS IGNORANCE AND…..WELL….VERY WRONG.
Norm
March 19, 2007 12:41 PM
time to vote said...
6-ticket limit. One Graduate, has 4 Grandparents, 2 Parents, that equals 6 tickets, but what about divorced families that would now have 6 Grandparents and 4 Parents, that equals 8? That does not even include Sisters, Brothers, Aunts, Uncles, Nieces, Nephews, Cousins, Loved Ones, Neighbors, past Teachers, Employers and Friends!
We want to have all families and the graduates vote
Vicky
March 19, 2007 1:00 PM
concur said...
We concur because:
6-ticket limit. One Graduate, has 4 Grandparents, 2 Parents, that equals 6 tickets, but what about divorced families that would now have 6 Grandparents and 4 Parents, that equals 8? That does not even include Sisters, Brothers, Aunts, Uncles, Nieces, Nephews, Cousins, Loved Ones, Neighbors, past Teachers, Employers and Friends!
Mithcell
March 19, 2007 1:01 PM
Lou said...
This is true:
If you take EVERYTHING into consideration, both sides of the coin, ALL of their points, and now their explanations and contradictions to not concede. This is a mess; we cannot even begin to explain how bad this truly is. The very Best thing they can do at this point is to take this celebration this Graduation back to “The Pit" and then they can regroup for next year, that way Graduates and Loved Ones can actually be allowed input for next year. It won’t be one sided like now and the powers that be would have a whole year to explain their logic.
Lou
March 19, 2007 1:12 PM
Joe said...
Go back to THE PIT
We ourselves witnessed 3 Graduations at “The Pit” last year because of our Nephews Graduating, “The Pit” more then handled the flow of people coming to celebrate. These very same Graduations would not have fit in a 4,500-seat facility. And we would have not been able to be present for each of our nephew’s Graduations if it was limited to 6. We filmed each of these events for our Sister and Brothers and our Nephews, a gift that they will always cherish.
Joe
March 19, 2007 1:32 PM
to the pit said...
2007 - Largest Graduating Class in the entire state and in our school’s history.
GO RAMS GO BACK TO THE PIT
Carl
March 19, 2007 1:43 PM
Sam said...
Please help!
We are asking you all please change the Graduation back to "The Pit”!
The date is still open and available at this venue.
For the “GREATER GOOD” GO BACK TO THE PIT!
Hey even our Basketball Team and Fans had to go to Albuquerque for the entire tournament and Rocked the Pit”!
March 19, 2007 2:51 PM
Liz said...
THINK ABOUT THIS!!!
Everyone here has a good point but really, really think about this:
Driving to; Parking; Leaving; Driving home!
How much traffic comes in and out of the pit when you are at an event?
But at least there you have 4 different ways to get in and out and a new 4 lane freeway out, so the time to get home if you live in Rio Rancho or on the west side is maybe a half an hour or so, not bad.
At the Santa Ana, with 700 to 750 students, which at least three fourths and more will be driving themselves, since they have to be there 2 hours early. Or their parents will be driving them. Plus school staff and Santa Ana staff that have to get there to prepare. Then all the families will be driving and the other fortunate ones that get to go, so total you are looking at a lot of automobiles driving there all at once. You will have to drive through Rio Rancho to get to a 2 lane road, with ONLY a 1 lane entrance, now that is dangerous! Could and accident occur? Yes! That will not cut down on driving time it will take you longer.
What about the parking?
That too, is going to be a major mess, and will not properly accommodate all of those vehicles. That will also add to the delay before the graduation even starts.
Now when it is time to go home you are looking at all those people and cars trying to get out of an area that has ONLY 1 way out and back to a 2 lane road! Here you are looking at a long wait if you are lucky and with no accidents. If there is an accident it is really going to be a major mess because then everyone heading in that direction will have to wait, do you get the picture?
I’d rather be coming out of the pit with more ways out to help us if something goes wrong, where if God forbid someone gets in an accident, at least you can find a way to turn around or find another road to turn on to.
What if someone gets in an accident coming from or going to the Santa Ana, where are our choices to get out of traffic? WAIT, there are NONE because there is ONLY 1 way in and 1 way out and it is a 2 lane road with NO turn around area anywhere except when you are on 528 or Northern!!!
TO ALL OF THE OFFICALS WHO CHANGED THIS!!
Start praying no one gets hurt on their way there or the way home because then you will have legal problems to deal with! God forbid a loss of life occurs!
Nobody wants that?!
Better yet change the graduation Back to the Pit and avoid all this.
THINK ABOUT THAT!!!!!!!
March 19, 2007 3:23 PM
? said...
Who is going to pay for my families airline tickets?
I cannot get a refund now.
This has to go back to the pit!
Glen
March 19, 2007 3:27 PM
Alan said...
The actual average amount of persons attending per each Senior for prior Graduations was about 19, some would have more, some less but that is the average, within the last few years there was no official ticket (Dr. Cleveland said the Class of 1999 was at Johnson Gym).
And within recent years Rio Rancho has always packed “The Pit”.
But now there are tickets and it has been limited to exactly 6.
Also there is a claim that 2 extra tickets will supposedly be given out to bring the total to 8 however this will still not remedy this poor plan.
No amount will remedy this because 4,500 seats is around 10,000+ persons short that won’t be allowed to attend.
Mathematically 6 times 750 equals 4,500 so not very many Graduates will be getting over 6 tickets.
This has to go back to the PIT.
I have heard they are trying like hell to push it to 5,000, seats that will still leave out right 10,000 people.
You can't right your wrong by adding some seats how is it you don't grasp this?
Alan
March 19, 2007 3:35 PM
gene said...
My daughter wants all of her family at her graduation.
Mom, dad, sisters, brother, aunts, uncles, grandparents and cousins.
That comes to 16!
Don't make her choose who gets to go and who gets to stay home.
We all want to celebrate with her.
BACK TO THE PIT!
Graduates and parents should have had a choice, it's our graduation, not the administrations!
March 19, 2007 3:39 PM
Pat said...
We are writing you to please take the time to read all this information and input and return this graduation to the pit.
Because valuable time is passing us by let the parents vote on this that way we can put this whole mess to rest.
We are getting sick over this it is not right, thank you.
Pat
March 19, 2007 3:58 PM
To Sue Cleveland said...
Sue Cleveland, you are going to get sued or have an injunction brought against you.
What comes around will go around.
Honestly, you are a much better person than this big mess.
Here is your time to shine and stop this ordeal.
You have not heard the end of this.
Comment after comment show you never let parents vote.
You only let certain people call in and complain.
There is nothing wrong with that as long as you let everyone state their case.
That has not happened yet.
Have a fair vote or take it back to the PIT.
I am reading between the lines you are trying very hard to do the right thing and keep the graduation safe.
But the way you are handling this mistake will not set well at all.
Listen, just by you going back to the PIT will calm the crowd.
Sue, do the right thing.
Kyle
March 19, 2007 4:06 PM
Jim said...
To save time and energy.
Please help!
We are asking you all please change the Graduation back to the “Pit”.
The date is still open and available at this venue.
For the “GREATER GOOD” GO BACK TO THE PIT!
Hey even our Basketball Team and Fans had to go to Albuquerque for the entire tournament and Rocked the Pit”!
March 19, 2007 4:10 PM
Tim said...
Attention all you school staff we do not agree with how you handled this graduation.
Everything submitted here hits the nail on the head.
We need you to listen and GO BACK TO THE PIT
thank you,
Tim
March 19, 2007 4:13 PM
Bobby D said...
"Come writers and critics
Who prophesize with your pen
And keep your eyes wide
The chance won't come again
And don't speak too soon
For the wheel's still in spin
And there's no tellin' who
That it's namin'.
For the loser now
Will be later to win
For the times they are a-changin'."
March 19, 2007 4:37 PM
Rose said...
The Rio Rancho High School Principal left parents out of a significant decision.
Parents were told the graduation would be held at the PIT which holds up to 17,000 people. The Star Center, at most, might hold 4500.
This year, RRHS has one of the largest graduating classes in recent history.
Plans should have been discussed with the people it most affects.
Last year the PIT was packed with families and the graduating class was not as large.
Let's rethink this now!
March 19, 2007 4:40 PM
Mandy said...
CHANGE IT BACK TO THE PIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I WANT MY FAMILY TO SEE ME GRADUATE!
March 19, 2007 6:59 PM
Chris said...
This blog information tells the truth!
RRPS NEEDS to change their decision.
March 19, 2007 7:01 PM
senior said...
I like that the venue is closer to home, but I would rather have my entire family and grandparents and relatives see my special day.
It’s despicable that the administration did this at the last minute and without anyone’s consent.
March 19, 2007 7:04 PM
Dad said...
RIO RANCHO PUBLIC SCHOOLS:
Do something right and change this graduation back to the PIT.
Eric
March 19, 2007 7:07 PM
grandpa said...
RE: RIO RANCHO GRADUATION
Please relocate the graduation ceremony to The PIT. Our family will not have enough tickets for all of us to witness our grandson's graduation.
Thank you
March 19, 2007 7:13 PM
Walter said...
At this point, no fair or reasonable explanation can out weigh ALL the reasons why the Graduation should be at “The Pit”.
Go ahead and weigh each and every matter honestly and fairly, both sides, the “proof is in the pudding”, fact, the way this entire decision was imposed has been handled, is wrong and very unfair.
If it were above board, we would not be writing this.
March 19, 2007 7:19 PM
max said...
Quoting a famous movie line - "We are mad as hell and we are not going to take it"!
We concur with the blog and count us in as a family against this negative decision imposed upon our children, PASS IT ON!:
Excellent newscast, copy this info here into your browser (there will be a short commercial first):
www.koat.com/video/11177714/index.html?taf=alb
March 19, 2007 7:23 PM
P. O.'d said...
Hello Jerry,
I just found the web site blog thingy I will make sure to pass it on to other families that have seniors graduating.
Thanks for letting me know.
Dear Rio Rancho district office.
Upset is an understatement, we are P.O'd big time!!!
You are dazed and confused if you think people were just going to let you slide.
HELL NO!
Sorry guys, you need to regroup, rethink and return to the PIT!
Kay
March 19, 2007 7:29 PM
Observer said...
"Parents of Rio Rancho graduates of 2007. Hey, I'll bet you all don't know that the graduation announcements that you undoubtedly spend hundreds of dollars on will tell your family and friends that your child is graduating from the University of New Mexico basketball arena, not the Santa Ana Star Center. Don't believe me? Call the printer."
March 19, 2007 9:12 PM
observer said...
"Graduation should be held at The Pit.
Somebody got that one wrong."
March 19, 2007 9:14 PM
discrimination said...
I am a Hispanic-Latino, Anglo American woman.
This decision is DISCRIMINATORY:
FACT: Class grade level seniors, young women and young men were scheduled to graduate from high school by a set location determined by date and time, at the original venue, which is the University of New Mexico Arena also known as The Pit.
FACT: Rio Rancho School personnel did willfully and knowingly change the original venue to the Star center owned by the Santa Ana casino with two (2) months remaining in the school year.
FACT: This school personnel imposition, requirement and mandate willfully and knowingly impedes families with a specific amount of children, parents, grandparents and alienates and excludes each of them from this public event where you are not monetarily charged to attend but you are allowed entry by rationed tickets only.
FACT: This school personnel imposition, requirement and mandate willfully and knowingly includes the dismissal of aunts, uncles, cousins, in-laws and generations of living relatives.
FACT: This school personnel imposition, requirement and mandate willfully and knowingly includes the dismissal of any persons that have been deemed friend.
FACT: This school personnel imposition, requirement and mandate venue change from said, UNM Arena to the Star center assisted in this impeding, dismissal and exclusion of persons.
FACT: This venue change occurred as told by school personnel, when unnamed “persons” asked, complained and insisted said change occur. Exact time frame is undetermined.
FACT: An undetermined “many” persons superseded the one hundred percent availability of any input from the rest of all other persons directly affected by this willful change of venue.
FACT: School personnel admit to willfully and knowingly understand and stated they considered the entire matter affecting everyone! Thus confirming their complete negligence and ignorance of the seriousness of the matter.
FACT: No votes were cast formally or informally by one hundred percent of all persons affected. School personnel both willfully and knowingly did not utilize this method and tool.
FACT: No poll or other data was investigated and analyzed formally or informally by one hundred percent of all persons affected. School personnel both willfully and knowingly did not utilize this method and tool.
FACT: School personnel both willfully and knowingly did impose, require and mandate all actions causing an undetermined amount of persons to be adversely affected, emotionally, psychologically and financially. Contrary to the pursuit of happiness.
FACT: Said discrimination affects directly and indirectly both genders, all ages and all races.
FACT: An actual count of each nationality will determine which nationalities are affected and to what degree.
FACT: Your immediate family is absolutely penalized by the amount of persons in your household or related by blood. Example if you have 4 living grandparents and 2 parents you have exhausted the rationed amount of tickets given. Regardless of how many siblings you have.
FACT: Or if you have 2 parents and 4 siblings not counting the graduate as a sibling you have exhausted the rationed tickets given. Regardless if you have grandparents.
FACT: Keep in mind we have families here that in fact were not raised by their blood mother or blood father.
FACT: All scenarios exclude anyone else regardless of relationship blood or otherwise.
FACT: Allowing each senior to allocate additional tickets at best confirms, that someone loses out. And this process is not wholly fair. This also leads to a myriad of other dynamics within the social interaction of each person.
FACT: Allocating additional tickets at best confirms, that someone loses out. And no process is wholly fair. First come first served is least fair. Other dynamics factor in.
FACT: to be continued
March 19, 2007 10:24 PM
I agree said...
THAT TAKES THE PROVERBIAL “CAKE”!
INPUT FROM ONLY A CHOSEN FEW OR WHO YELLED THE LOUDEST!
NOT EVERYONE WAS ALLOWED TO VOTE OR GIVE ANY INPUT!
DISTRICT’S EGO IS HURT BECAUSE THEY WERE BOOED LAST YEAR!
NO WONDER THEY WERE BOOED!
DECISION TO CHANGE JUST HAPPENED AND NOT EVERYONE KNOWS ABOUT IT, I JUST GOT AN EMAIL TODAY!??
WHAT IS UP WITH THAT, I NEVER GOT THE MEMO?
PLANS HAVE ALREADY BEEN MADE!
DISTRICT IS NOW USING THE WE ALREADY SIGNED THE CONTRACT EXCUSE!
I OWN A PAPER SHREDDER!
10,000 PEOPLE THAT WANT TO BE THERE CAN’T BE THERE!
ANNOUNCEMENTS STILL HAVE “THE PIT” ON THEM, THAT IS BEYOND TACKY, THAT IS RIGHT ABOVE B. S. IN MY BOOK!
LAST I CHECKED WE LIVE IN AMERICA!
WE HAVE RIGHTS, HERE!
IF THE DISCTRICT GETS AWAY WITH THIS SMOKE AND MIRRORS JOB, WE HAVE ALL JUST WITNESSED A CRIME!
OH MY GOODNESS GRACIOUS, THESE PEOPLE HAVE HAD AUTHORITY OVER OUR KIDS!
I AM FURIOUS!!!
I ALSO WANTED TO THANK ALL OF YOU THAT PUT THE BLOG TOGETHER YOU REALLY DID A GREAT JOB I WILL PASS IT ON!
I WOULD LIKE TO WRITE HOW I REALLY FEEL BUT I THINK YOU WOULD NOT WANT TO HAVE SUCH ANGER, RAGE, PROFANITY IN YOUR NICE WEBSITE!
WILLIAM
March 19, 2007 10:32 PM
this too said...
Dr. Cleveland and Mr. VonAncken, I fully support you and respect all that you have to deal with, I am all the way on your side.
But I am motivated to write this to let you know that the way this entire matter was processed is absolutely wrong.
I think someone already wrote to allow everyone to have a say and that actually is the right way and is the way it has to be.
If we let this slide then who knows what will be next? It is too important and too many people are affected.
Yeah, I whole lot of people were booed last year and I did not agree with that. The only thing I will point out is we here in Rio Rancho are TOUGH! The graduation last year went on too long, people were getting restless and well, mad. If you think downsizing will help, well then you have not learned from last year. I have seen first hand what just 20 people can do if they choose to get rowdy. The Pit has had graduations since forever. There are many more things that fostered that and RRPS needs to take a good look at themselves in the mirror and that is actually the truth.
I did not agree with what happened at last year's graduation. But I sure don't agree with all of this.
It smells like, money as in kickbacks, or politics, or stupidity is driving this. What else could it be? Either someone is benefiting, or someone with power has an agenda, or you are deaf, dumb and blind? My apologies for being so blunt, but let us call it what it truly is. It is one of the three, or two of the three, or it is all three. If you stop and ask yourself why are we doing this hopefully you will find the answer.
I sincerely ask because what you are imposing and how you are imposing it is "DEAD WRONG". "I see said the blind man."
Additionally, if you would have had 4500 persons from last year’s graduation at the Star center, you would have still been booed. Consider that? Downsizing is not your problem. But what concerns me is with these shenanigans that you now refuse to bend on have only severely added to your woes.
Thanks for your time, and GO BACK TO THE PIT,
Ben
March 19, 2007 10:42 PM
hi to kay, but jerry said...
Great Kay!
Glad you found the web.
RRPS, hi.
Well you really did it this time didn't you? You moved the graduation. You never asked me. You only let certain people contact you and let you know what they wanted. Then you did what they wanted. And what you wanted. But you never asked me. Or Kay. Or actually anyone I know. An editorial in the Albuquerque Journal said that “many” more people wanted it at the star center? How could the editor know that? I never heard you took a poll or a vote? I’d like to put this to a vote right now. You know we stood a better chance if we flipped a coin. Then we had a 50/50 chance. This way we had 0 chance. Not good odds huh? Well back to the editor saying “many” more people wanted it changed. He must have heard that from you. He sure did not hear that from me. For sure if this was true you would have stated that first. Because that would have been an important piece of information huh? Well, I am willing to bet you a coke you are wrong and the editor is wrong. I bet you both more parents want this to “go back to the pit” (wow we have to quote that phrase now)!
Man, I going to win 2 cokes!
Yours truly,
Jerry
(not with Dean and not with Ben, just Jerry)
Hey, I’m referring to Dean Martin and Ben the ice cream dude.
March 19, 2007 11:08 PM
fundraiser said...
As a senior at Rio Rancho, I would like to have the graduation moved back to University Arena.
I have a large family – some of which are flying overseas to attend – that have bought tickets and now cannot attend.
If funds are an issue, why can’t the school have a fundraiser?
Take our graduation back to the PIT
C
March 20, 2007 10:01 AM
Carol said...
BACK TO THE PIT NOW
OR
LET PARENTS VOTE NOW
March 20, 2007 10:09 AM
cancel said...
Hello
I am writing RRPS and asking that you cancel the contract and go back to the UNM PIT
thank you.
Liz
March 20, 2007 10:28 AM
ray said...
In support of returning the graduation to the Pit.
thank you
March 20, 2007 11:01 AM
K said...
Note: RRPS received my comment at the very beginning when this all started - and before any contracts were signed!
The decision to move the 2007 graduation was handled improperly and was the wrong decision. Parents should have been surveyed prior to the decision. Please let me know who was responsible for this decision. The current class sizes are too large to try to graduate anywhere smaller than the Pit. My wife and I have 5 children, one of which graduates this year. My parents, who have already bought airline tickets from Ohio, my wife's parent's and a couple sisters plan to attend just like the past two years. Who do I get to leave home with my allotment of six tickets? I know there will be many other people in the same situation. Do you really expect people to return their six tickets? The only chance I have of letting my family share the occasion is to find some friend who isn't using all of their tickets. I highly recommend you reconsider the decision and keep the Pit location while you still can.
March 20, 2007 11:11 AM
Paul said...
Consider this response as support for your efforts to returen our graduation to The Pit.
We agree with everything written here.
We will ask others to do the same
Paul
March 20, 2007 12:27 PM
amazing said...
It is truly is amazing what you can get done on the world wide web.
I came across this site as I was doing a search. We like that other families in Rio Rancho feel the same way as we do. Our family is asking those in charge to have the graduation at the location we were always told it would be. We have told our freind about this. Pass it on to everyone you know.
Oscar
March 20, 2007 12:32 PM
henry said...
HALLELUJAH
IT IS ABOUT TIME WE CHALLENGE THIS HUGE PROBLEM
GO BACK TO THE PIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
HENRY
March 20, 2007 12:48 PM
Nana said...
HALLELUJAH
IT IS ABOUT TIME WE CHALLENGE THIS HUGE PROBLEM
GO BACK TO THE PIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
NANA
March 20, 2007 1:00 PM
Jenny said...
HALLELUJAH
IT IS ABOUT TIME WE CHALLENGE THIS HUGE PROBLEM
GO BACK TO THE PIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
JENNY
March 20, 2007 1:01 PM
gloria said...
HALLELUJAH
IT IS ABOUT TIME WE CHALLENGE THIS HUGE PROBLEM
GO BACK TO THE PIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
GLORIA
March 20, 2007 1:02 PM
go back said...
HALLELUJAH
IT IS ABOUT TIME WE CHALLENGE THIS HUGE PROBLEM
GO BACK TO THE PIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Mel
March 20, 2007 1:02 PM
Art said...
HALLELUJAH
IT IS ABOUT TIME WE CHALLENGE THIS HUGE PROBLEM
GO BACK TO THE PIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Art
March 20, 2007 1:03 PM
Jill said...
HALLELUJAH
IT IS ABOUT TIME WE CHALLENGE THIS HUGE PROBLEM
GO BACK TO THE PIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
JILL
March 20, 2007 1:04 PM
support said...
HALLELUJAH
IT IS ABOUT TIME WE CHALLENGE THIS HUGE PROBLEM
GO BACK TO THE PIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
GWEN
March 20, 2007 1:04 PM
augie said...
HALLELUJAH
IT IS ABOUT TIME WE CHALLENGE THIS HUGE PROBLEM
GO BACK TO THE PIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Augie
March 20, 2007 1:08 PM
i hope this works said...
HALLELUJAH
IT IS ABOUT TIME WE CHALLENGE THIS HUGE PROBLEM
GO BACK TO THE PIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Janelle
March 20, 2007 1:37 PM
parents said...
HALLELUJAH
IT IS ABOUT TIME WE CHALLENGE THIS HUGE PROBLEM
GO BACK TO THE PIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
MANNY
March 20, 2007 2:13 PM
steve said...
HALLELUJAH
IT IS ABOUT TIME WE CHALLENGE THIS HUGE PROBLEM
GO BACK TO THE PIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Steve
March 20, 2007 2:32 PM
100% support said...
I just received this email and support this call to action 100%
I will also share this with EVERYONE I know.
HALLELUJAH
IT IS ABOUT TIME WE CHALLENGE THIS HUGE PROBLEM
GO BACK TO THE PIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WAYNE
March 20, 2007 3:54 PM
Anonymous said...
What about the extended family memebers from out of state that have already booked plane tickets? Your telling the parents sorry pick and choose your favorites who cares if feelings are hurt. That is crazy! The graduation should be moved back to The Pit so every family member that wants to be there can attend!!
March 20, 2007 3:57 PM
amy s said...
HALLELUJAH!!!!!!!!
IT IS ABOUT TIME WE CHALLENGE THIS HUGE PROBLEM
GO BACK TO THE PIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Amy S
March 20, 2007 3:58 PM
Connie said...
HALLELUJAH
IT IS ABOUT TIME WE CHALLENGE THIS HUGE PROBLEM
GO BACK TO THE PIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
CONNIE
March 20, 2007 4:00 PM
Brenda said...
HALLELUJAH
IT IS ABOUT TIME WE CHALLENGE THIS HUGE PROBLEM
GO BACK TO THE PIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
BRENDA and family
March 20, 2007 4:03 PM
dave said...
HALLELUJAH
IT IS ABOUT TIME WE CHALLENGE THIS HUGE PROBLEM
GO BACK TO THE PIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
DAVE
March 20, 2007 4:05 PM
dan the man said...
HALLELUJAH
IT IS ABOUT TIME WE CHALLENGE THIS HUGE PROBLEM
GO BACK TO THE PIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
DAN
March 20, 2007 4:09 PM
Bill said...
HALLELUJAH
IT IS ABOUT TIME WE CHALLENGE THIS HUGE PROBLEM
GO BACK TO THE PIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
BILL
March 20, 2007 4:12 PM
mike said...
HALLELUJAH
IT IS ABOUT TIME WE CHALLENGE THIS HUGE PROBLEM
GO BACK TO THE PIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
MIKE
March 20, 2007 4:14 PM
family said...
HALLELUJAH
IT IS ABOUT TIME WE CHALLENGE THIS HUGE PROBLEM
GO BACK TO THE PIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
BRIAN & family
March 20, 2007 4:31 PM
frank said...
FACT: The school personnel decision, imposition, requirement and mandate willfully and knowingly prohibits aunts, uncles, cousins, in-laws and generations of living relatives from attending the graduation. Depending upon the size of the family and who uses the 6 available tickets.
March 20, 2007 4:41 PM
Craig said...
I want my family to see me graduate and 6 tickets won’t be enough.
Rio Rancho schools needs to re-think their decision!
Return to the PIT!
Or allow parents and seniors to vote.
March 20, 2007 4:46 PM
j. b. said...
I support returning the graduation to The Pit.
J. B.
March 20, 2007 4:50 PM
kevin said...
I support returning the graduation to The Pit.
March 20, 2007 4:51 PM
howard said...
I support returning the graduation to The Pit.
March 20, 2007 4:52 PM
chris said...
I support returning the graduation to The Pit.
March 20, 2007 4:52 PM
joy said...
I support returning the graduation to The Pit.
March 20, 2007 5:06 PM
Karen said...
I support returning the graduation to The Pit.
March 20, 2007 5:07 PM
sheldon said...
I support returning the graduation to The Pit.
March 20, 2007 5:07 PM
Marcy said...
We agree with this PETITION to return the 2007 graduation back to the PIT.
March 20, 2007 5:29 PM
GLADYS said...
WE SUPPORT THE PETITION
March 20, 2007 5:32 PM
crazy said...
What about the extended family memebers from out of state that have already booked plane tickets?
Your telling the parents sorry pick and choose your favorites who cares if feelings are hurt.
That is crazy!
The graduation should be moved back to The Pit so every family member that wants to be there can attend!!
March 20, 2007 5:34 PM
Terry said...
The Largest Graduating Class in Rio Rancho history and the largest Class in the state.
To place the largest Class in a smaller venue is not a well thought out plan at this late notice no matter what the logic.
March 20, 2007 5:35 PM
Tammi said...
I want to thank everyone involve in making the BLOG accessible.
We agree with everything place here.
Thanks again
Tammi
March 20, 2007 5:37 PM
Penny said...
HOOOAAAAH!
We support Back to the PIT
March 20, 2007 5:38 PM
Rod said...
Wow, this is really awesome!
We love it!!
GO RAMS
YES GO BACK TO THE PIT AGAIN!!
YOU DID ROCK THE PIT!
March 20, 2007 5:41 PM
simon says said...
“BACK TO THE PIT
FAMILY AND FRIENDS OF RIO RANCHO HIGH SCHOOL GRADUATES DISCUSSION GROUP”
After reading your blogs, newspaper stories, and the koat newscast we are behind you.
Dr. Cleveland we want this graduation at THE PIT, thank you.
March 20, 2007 7:35 PM
Phyliss said...
“BACK TO THE PIT
FAMILY AND FRIENDS OF RIO RANCHO HIGH SCHOOL GRADUATES DISCUSSION GROUP”
BRAVO!
Rio Rancho Schools we want this graduation at THE PIT, thank you.
March 20, 2007 7:42 PM
Terrance said...
"An editor and the administration all referred to the “many” that wanted this, what is the problem with putting this to a vote, right now? You will all find out the actual “many” want this event at “The Pit”. Our Seniors will have to revert back to their grade school days, you print up what 750 notes home with 2 boxes to check on the note - “The Pit” or no “Pit”, parents and guardians along with each Senior will vote. Unlike the decree that has been imposed upon everyone, where only a certain “many” voices were heard and acted on, simply, that decision that act in itself is so wrong and so very unfair, this is America right? (The school Board is supposed to uphold the Constitution of the United States, just ask them). Make sure you number each one of these notes that way they can be counted fairly. Add a few lines so the Graduate and their Parent/Guardian can print and sign. If you have a better idea, wonderful as long as the vote process is fair. If the vote comes back no “Pit”, then the editor, the administration and the so called “many” had a finger on the pulse and IF the vote comes back “The Pit” then Hallelujah! Times a wastin’!"
March 20, 2007 7:43 PM
Quinn said...
I have heard and seen some bad things here in Rio Rancho schools. The best thing that could happen is to return the graduation to the Pit.
Quinn
March 20, 2007 8:45 PM
jen said...
Our family supports the petition to return to the Pit.
Jen
March 20, 2007 8:46 PM
ron said...
Dr. Cleveland please come back to your senses, for goodness sake they are naming a school after you, show some basic human compassion and fairness here!
Ron
March 20, 2007 8:46 PM
emily said...
No vote, no input, no choice, no time to cancel family coming in from out of town, only a chosen few were allowed to complain about the last graduation. Then no Star center. Go back to The Pit.
Emily
March 20, 2007 8:47 PM
irene said...
We would like to contribute to this blog and ask that you change your decision. We know it is not too late and you can cancel the so called contract.
Irene
March 20, 2007 8:48 PM
marvin said...
I agree with the petition and would like to vote to go back to the UNM Pit.
Marvin
March 20, 2007 8:48 PM
charles said...
Families and graduates have been discriminated against, not everyone was allowed to have a voice in this decision. It was highly one sided. Go back to the Pit.
Charles
March 20, 2007 8:49 PM
fact said...
I am a Hispanic-Latino, Anglo American woman.
This decision is DISCRIMINATORY:
FACT: Class grade level seniors, young women and young men were scheduled to graduate from high school by a set location determined by date and time, at the original venue, which is the University of New Mexico Arena also known as The Pit.
FACT: Rio Rancho School personnel did willfully and knowingly change the original venue to the Star center owned by the Santa Ana casino with two (2) months remaining in the school year.
FACT: The school personnel decision, imposition, requirement and mandate willfully and knowingly impedes families with a specific amount of children, parents, grandparents and alienates and excludes each of them from this public event where you are not monetarily charged to attend but you are allowed entry by rationed tickets only.
FACT: The school personnel decision, imposition, requirement and mandate willfully and knowingly prohibits aunts, uncles, cousins, in-laws and generations of living relatives from attending the graduation. Dependent upon the size of the family and who uses the 6 available tickets.
FACT: The school personnel decision, imposition, requirement and mandate willfully and knowingly prohibits any persons that have been deemed friend from attending the graduation. Dependent upon the size of the family and who uses the 6 available tickets.
FACT: The school personnel decision, imposition, requirement and mandate venue change from said, UNM Arena to the Star center assists in this impeding, dismissal and exclusion of persons.
FACT: The venue change occurred as told by school personnel, when unnamed “persons” asked, complained and insisted said change occur. Exact time frame is undetermined.
FACT: An undetermined “many” persons superseded the one hundred percent availability of any input from the rest of all other persons directly affected by this willful change of venue.
FACT: School personnel admit to willfully and knowingly understand and stated they considered the entire matter affecting everyone! Thus confirming their complete negligence and ignorance of the seriousness of the matter.
FACT: No votes were cast formally or informally by one hundred percent of all persons affected. School personnel both willfully and knowingly did not utilize this method and tool.
FACT: No poll or other data was investigated and analyzed formally or informally by one hundred percent of all persons affected. School personnel both willfully and knowingly did not utilize this method and tool.
FACT: School personnel both willfully and knowingly did impose, require and mandate all actions causing an undetermined amount of persons to be adversely affected, emotionally, psychologically and financially. Contrary to the pursuit of happiness.
FACT: Said discrimination affects directly and indirectly both genders, all ages and all races.
FACT: An actual count of each nationality will determine which nationalities are affected and to what degree.
FACT: Your immediate family is absolutely penalized by the amount of persons in your household or related by blood. Example if you have 4 living grandparents and 2 parents you have exhausted the rationed amount of tickets given. Regardless of how many siblings you have.
FACT: Or if you have 2 parents and 4 siblings not counting the graduate as a sibling you have exhausted the rationed tickets given. Regardless if you have grandparents.
FACT: Keep in mind we have families here that in fact were not raised by their blood mother or blood father.
FACT: All scenarios exclude anyone else regardless of relationship by blood or otherwise.
FACT: Allowing each senior to allocate additional tickets at best confirms, that someone loses out. And this process is not wholly fair. This also leads to a myriad of other dynamics within the social interaction of each person.
FACT: Allocating additional tickets at best confirms, that someone loses out. And no process is wholly fair. First come first served is least fair. Other dynamics factor in.
FACT: to be continued
March 21, 2007 5:05 AM
natalie said...
I am very impressed!
Count us in!
Fair Vote by parents or go back to THE PIT
March 21, 2007 5:18 AM
Anthony said...
Like the songs says:
"WE'RE NOT GONNA TAKE
no, We Ain't Gonna Take It
oh We're Not Gonna Take It Anymore
we've Got The Right To Choose And
there Ain't No Way We'll Lose It
this Is Our Life, This Is Our Song
we'll Fight The Powers That Be Just
don't Pick Our Destiny 'cause
you Don't Know Us, You Don't Belong
"
We agree to return the graduation BACK TO THE PIT!
BACK TO THE PIT!
BACK TO THE PIT!
I read the different remarks and this song came to mind
March 21, 2007 5:27 AM
BACK TO THE PIT! said...
BACK TO THE PIT!
it is that simple......
Jennifer
March 21, 2007 5:28 AM
ditto said...
BACK TO THE PIT!
it is that simple
Pat
March 21, 2007 5:40 AM
so simple said...
BACK TO THE PIT!
it is so simple
Laura
March 21, 2007 5:53 AM
simple simon said...
YEAAHH!
nice blog web!
BACK TO THE PIT!
it is so simple
Carla
March 21, 2007 6:42 AM
Jim said...
BACK TO THE PIT!
it is so simple
March 21, 2007 6:43 AM
Glen said...
BACK TO THE PIT!
it is so simple
March 21, 2007 7:07 AM
Ted said...
BACK TO THE PIT!
it is so simple
March 21, 2007 7:14 AM
Clifford said...
What RRPS and staff did was WRONG!
No input
No vote
No say
No way
BACK TO THE PIT!
it is so simple
it really is!
March 21, 2007 7:28 AM
Lisa said...
BACK TO THE PIT!
it is so simple
we agree
March 21, 2007 7:30 AM
Archie said...
WE want our family, grandparents and relatives and friends to see the graduation and 6 tickets won’t be enough!
Rio Rancho needs to re-think their decision!
Return to the PIT!
March 21, 2007 7:46 AM
Johnny said...
I want my family to see me graduate and 6 tickets won’t be enough! Rio Rancho needs to go back to the pit.
March 21, 2007 8:03 AM
06 Parent said...
YES the district should have come up with a variety of options and make them available to the public, obtain feedback and base the decision on that feedback in combination with sound financial decisions (as well as access, parking, etc.). YES the timing should have been better. YES the district has not given the public a voice. YES it should probably be moved back to the PIT for this year's graduation.
BUT, as a parent of a student who graduated last year, I have to say that the behavior of the parents at the graduation ceremony was absolutely embarrassing, intolerable, and would've prompted almost any administration to call off graduation the next year and mail out diplomas (which they have the right to do...graduation ceremonies are conducted as a way to celebrate the graduates...it is not a mandatory event). I saw entire family groups booing administration and staff when their names were called, entire family groups getting up and leaving in a very disruptive and rude fashion right in the middle of the processional call, and more. By comparison, the students were amazingly well behaved, and I was embarrassed for my son and his friends who demonstrated maturity far exceeding that of many of the parents in the audience.
I understand the district trying to change the "venue" in an attempt to bring a semblance of order and dignity back to the graduation ceremony. Granted, not everyone should pay for last year's badly behaved parents, but I just want everyone in this blog to have a bit more of the whole picture.
I'm still in support of moving graduation back to the PIT, but eventually, a Rio Rancho-based graduation will be happening and parents need to decide if those proceedings will be conducted with the dignity, respect and seriousness that everyone is expecting and calling for in this blog.
March 21, 2007 8:04 AM
Jarrod said...
BACK TO THE PIT TODAY
March 21, 2007 9:12 AM
To 06 Parent said...
Hello 06 Parent,
Thank you, for the information regarding what happened last year.
Thank you for sharing that.
I respect your points of view and would ask others to add to what they also observed. I believe there are some blogs here that also mentioned their observations from last year.
Wrong is wrong regarding what you observed from last year.
We are willing to do ANYTHING to assist RRPS in not having the same bad behavior for 2007.
We are willing to pay for extra security. Whatever is asked we are willing to do.
We have parents willing to pay for the entire cost of The Pit, that is how serious it is!
We are very glad you see our concerns as well.
Wrong is wrong and what the administration has done for 2007 is very wrong.
Let that be there emphasis, "GO BACK TO THE PIT"
and state, we will not return to The Pit if we have a dejavu of 06!
If EVERYONE voted and this changed occurred, that is different. But as we know that was not allowed, and that is very WRONG.
Honestly, this was not at all fair. You CANNOT punish 06 for 07.
One parent wrote if I punish one son for what his brother did they would always be grounded!
Our big push right now is:
Tear up the contract and let us know what the cost is to do that.
GO BACK TO THE PIT.
Or
Let families with graduating seniors have a FAIR vote.
They are stalling right now this is going to get very ugly, people have every right to call them on this one, quoting - “THIS IS AMERICA”.
The administration is using their energy in the wrong direction.
They need to do the right thing not the wrong thing.
Also, FYI: 08 wants the graduation at The Pit. Just watch.
06 Parent, if you know anyone that wants this graduation to “GO BACK TO THE PIT” please forward this blog web to them.
We truly appreciate you sharing.
Yours truly,
Tony
What 06 Parent said...
YES the district should have come up with a variety of options and make them available to the public, obtain feedback and base the decision on that feedback in combination with sound financial decisions (as well as access, parking, etc.). YES the timing should have been better. YES the district has not given the public a voice. YES it should probably be moved back to the PIT for this year's graduation.
BUT, as a parent of a student who graduated last year, I have to say that the behavior of the parents at the graduation ceremony was absolutely embarrassing, intolerable, and would've prompted almost any administration to call off graduation the next year and mail out diplomas (which they have the right to do...graduation ceremonies are conducted as a way to celebrate the graduates...it is not a mandatory event). I saw entire family groups booing administration and staff when their names were called, entire family groups getting up and leaving in a very disruptive and rude fashion right in the middle of the processional call, and more. By comparison, the students were amazingly well behaved, and I was embarrassed for my son and his friends who demonstrated maturity far exceeding that of many of the parents in the audience.
I understand the district trying to change the "venue" in an attempt to bring a semblance of order and dignity back to the graduation ceremony. Granted, not everyone should pay for last year's badly behaved parents, but I just want everyone in this blog to have a bit more of the whole picture.
I'm still in support of moving graduation back to the PIT, but eventually, a Rio Rancho-based graduation will be happening and parents need to decide if those proceedings will be conducted with the dignity, respect and seriousness that everyone is expecting and calling for in this blog.
March 21, 2007 10:10 AM
Leroy to the 06 parent said...
Thank you 06 Parent
"YES the district should have come up with a variety of options and make them available to the public, obtain feedback and base the decision on that feedback in combination with sound financial decisions (as well as access, parking, etc.). YES the timing should have been better. YES the district has not given the public a voice. YES it should probably be moved back to the PIT for this year's graduation."
March 21, 2007 10:15 AM
Donnie said...
kudos to the 06 Parent!!
thank you.
pass it on!!!
March 21, 2007 10:21 AM
To the 06 parent, thank you said...
Hello 06 parent,
Thank you, if possible please email me at cmj2nc@aol.com
I had some questions about last year that would take up too much time blogging you with all the traffic.
Thank you,
March 21, 2007 11:38 AM
Hector said...
Sorry if I am late,
better late then never, right?
Well anyway, everything that needs to be said has been said.
Some great stuff here, thank you for doing this, thank you, thank you.
We are parents that were glad to find out the graduation was going to be in town.
BUT!!!
Not how it has been illegally enforced!!
Has someone consulted an attorney?
I will email you some good ones.
GO BACK TO THE PIT
I do believe this is DISCRIMINATION and we should hold those responsible for this major problem.
Don’t let them off the hook.
That all folks…
Hector
March 21, 2007 11:52 AM
Paul said...
quoting Chris B
"back, back, back, back, back"
to the PIT!!!
March 21, 2007 12:11 PM
Clay said...
100% in support
March 21, 2007 2:49 PM
Nicole said...
Our Graduate’s Graduation announcements and keep in mind as well as numerous other families’ announcements were ordered with the understanding the Graduation would be at “The Pit”. Had we known the location would be changed this would have influenced our purchase of these announcements and the amount needed.
Why would we have wasted money on announcements that are inviting many people to an event they can’t go to? Most of the tickets are going only to immediate family. People with large families and a large network are penalized. Not so at “The Pit” venue.
“The announcements do say The Pit, however, there is an insert being done for the new location with a map”. This is the exact quote by Jostens, the business doing our announcements; we have requested that they provide us with a full refund, as we will cancel this order. We are encouraging others to do likewise.
March 21, 2007 3:02 PM
Lucy said...
Oh now you tell me when we already invited close family. This is not right. Count us it too.
March 21, 2007 3:11 PM
Kurt said...
Back to THE PIT NOW!!
March 21, 2007 3:34 PM
lewis said...
2006 graduate family supports the class of 2007
RRPS is dead wrong
March 21, 2007 3:40 PM
CORKY said...
EXCELLENT BLOG WE SALUTE YOU!!!
MAN, WE AGREE WITH EVERYTHING, WE NEED TO GET AN ATTORNEY ON THIS I KNOW SOME ALSO.
IT SURE IS NICE TO GET OTHERS INVOLVED, THERE IS STUFF HERE WE DID NOT EVEN REALIZE.
THEY ARE TRYING TO PULL THE WOOL OVER OUR EYES.
WE CANNOT LET THEM GETAWAY WITH THIS ONE.
SORRY IF I AM LATE TO THE DANCE.
CORKY
PS: THE ANNOUNCEMENTS SUCK!!
March 21, 2007 4:08 PM
lucy said...
Oh now you tell me when we already invited close family.
This is not right.
Count us ALL in too.
March 21, 2007 4:10 PM
Bernard said...
and the hits just keep on coming!!!
chant:
"Pit"
"Pit"
"Pit"
"Pit"
"Pit"
"Pit"
"Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit"
March 21, 2007 4:19 PM
i "PIT"y the fool said...
Hey Bernard we're with you......
"Pit"
"Pit"
"Pit"
"Pit"
"Pit"
"Pit"
"Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit"
"Pit"
"Pit"
"Pit"
"Pit"
"Pit"
"Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit"
March 21, 2007 4:23 PM
hombre said...
No the "blogs" just keep on comin"
Hey Bernard we're with you too......
all the children said,
"Pit"
"Pit"
"Pit"
"Pit"
"Pit"
"Pit"
"Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit"
"Pit""Pit""Pit"
"Pit"
"Pit"
"Pit"
"Pit"
"Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit"
March 21, 2007 4:26 PM
Ethan said...
who is Bernard and what is this chant he started?
it is Contagious
"Pit"
"Pit"
"Pit"
i "PIT"y the fool
i "PIT"y the foo
i "PIT"y the high school
i "PIT"y the fools at the high school
March 21, 2007 4:30 PM
Dick said...
funny guys and gals funny..
lets get serious now....
"Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit"
faster now.......
"Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit
slower now.....
"Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit
now the tall people......
"Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit
ok, this is fun.....
"Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit
March 21, 2007 4:35 PM
Bernard's wife said...
Alright already!!!
cool it.
RRPS will not take us serious.
We really need to
go back to the
"Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit"
Look what you started Bernard!
March 21, 2007 4:50 PM
Ema said...
Chain reaction
"Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit
Good deal, we support everyone here blogging along.
When the red red robin starts blog blog blogging along,
along.....
Seriously, RRPS we really want you to change your mind, thank you.
For the sake of thousands of people that want to go.
and to the 06 Parent, thank you.
I was there, we like you also behaved.
Go Back to the PIT please.
March 21, 2007 4:55 PM
Thanks Bernard said...
"Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit
We would like to respectfully request that Dr. Sue Cleveland come to her senses and return the class of 2007 back to the Pit.
We know you can cancel the contract and we know you can change your mind.
What you are doing is very wrong and it is discrimination.
You cannot do this when clearly you have not asked everyone affected.
Someone with courage at RRPS needs to stand up and stop this.
Chant again:
"Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit
Thanks Bernard,
Rachel
March 21, 2007 5:01 PM
Veronica to the 06 parent said...
Thank you very much 06 Parent
well worded.
"YES the district should have come up with a variety of options and make them available to the public, obtain feedback and base the decision on that feedback in combination with sound financial decisions (as well as access, parking, etc.). YES the timing should have been better. YES the district has not given the public a voice. YES it should probably be moved back to the PIT for this year's graduation."
March 21, 2007 5:06 PM
Helen said...
Thank you 06 Parent
"YES the district should have come up with a variety of options and make them available to the public, obtain feedback and base the decision on that feedback in combination with sound financial decisions (as well as access, parking, etc.). YES the timing should have been better. YES the district has not given the public a voice. YES it should probably be moved back to the PIT for this year's graduation."
March 21, 2007 5:18 PM
Bernard Rocks, thanks said...
Hello Bernard,
thank you for the catchy chant:
"Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit"
Pass it on to everyone you know!!
Victoria
March 21, 2007 5:21 PM
Jackie said...
“BACK TO THE PIT
FAMILY AND FRIENDS OF RIO RANCHO HIGH SCHOOL GRADUATES DISCUSSION GROUP”
After reading your blogs, newspaper stories, and the Koat newscast we are behind you.
Dr. Cleveland we want this graduation at THE PIT, thank you.
"Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit"
Jackie
March 21, 2007 5:26 PM
Judy said...
"Can't we all just get along"
and Go Back to The Pit??!!
March 21, 2007 6:53 PM
Jason said...
We support returning to The Pit
March 21, 2007 7:15 PM
Gordon said...
Hello all Bloggers.
Great stuff here.
This is awesome.
We are glad someone had the moxy to let them know we really care.
We support everyone here all the way.
I will email you direct let me know how else we can help.
We will pass this on too.
Gordon
March 21, 2007 8:00 PM
Al said...
AWESOME!
I just read about this site in the RR Observer!
This is outstanding.
I agree:
Go back to The Pit, because it is the RIGHT thing to do.
OR
Put it to a fair vote period and you will have all your answers and problems solved and then you did what you should have done in the first place.
It really is that simple.
Wise up, or forget about the "money and the contract", or tell who is ever driving this you won't do it, you won't do thousands of people and children wrong.
March 21, 2007 9:27 PM
samantha said...
http://129.24.2.119/fbonline5/calendar.asp?filter=&month=5&day=19&year=2007&x=14&y=6
Please paste this info into your browser, or you might be able to click on it, the original Graduation date of 5/19 is still open.
We can still return to “The Pit”.
RRPS, regarding your decision to change this year’s Graduation to the center.
The Rio Rancho High School Agenda Book clearly states the Graduation will be at “The Pit”.
This is what we used to plan out this important event in our Child’s life.
March 21, 2007 9:31 PM
blog on said...
Oh my,
I really like your blogspot.
We support everyone rising to this task, blog on & go back to the PIT Rio Rancho, NM!
"THINK ABOUT THIS!!!
Everyone here has a good point but really, really think about this:
Driving to; Parking; Leaving; Driving home!
How much traffic comes in and out of the pit when you are at an event?
But at least there you have 4 different ways to get in and out and a new 4 lane freeway to get in and out, so by the time to get home if you live in Rio Rancho or on the west side is maybe about a half an hour or so, not bad.
At the Santa Ana, with 700 to 750 students, which at least three fourths and more will be driving themselves, since they have to be there 2 hours early. Or their parents will be driving them. Plus school staff and Santa Ana staff that have to get there to prepare. Then all the families will be driving and the other fortunate ones that get to go, so total you are looking at a lot of automobiles driving there all at once. You will have to drive through Rio Rancho to get to a 2 lane road, with ONLY a 1 lane entrance, now that is dangerous! Could and accident occur? Yes! That will not cut down on driving time it will take you longer.
What about the parking?
That too, is going to be a major mess, and will not properly accommodate all of those vehicles. That will also add to the delay before the graduation even starts.
Now when it is time to go home you are looking at all those people and cars trying to get out of an area that has ONLY 1 way out and back to a 2 lane road! Here you are looking at a long wait if you are lucky and with no accidents. If there is an accident it is really going to be a major mess because then everyone heading in that direction will have to wait, do you get the picture?
I’d rather be coming out of the pit with more ways out to help us if something goes wrong, where if God forbid someone gets in an accident, at least you can find a way to turn around or find another road to turn on to.
What if someone gets in an accident coming from or going to the Santa Ana, where are our choices to get out of traffic?
WAIT, there are NONE because there is ONLY 1 way in and 1 way out and it is a 2 lane road with NO turn around area anywhere except when you are on 528 or Northern!!!
TO ALL OF THE OFFICALS WHO CHANGED THIS!!
Start praying no one gets hurt on their way there or the way home because then you will have legal problems to deal with! God forbid a loss of life occurs!
Nobody wants that?!
Better yet change the graduation Back to the Pit and avoid all this.
THINK ABOUT THAT!!!!!!!"
Jasmine
March 21, 2007 9:40 PM
to anonymous said...
To anonymous,
You wrote "posse"
Is that slang from “Bonanza”?
Or what did you mean?
If you joined in late,
The School Board never tabled this matter.
They pointed the finger back to the administration.
So this never was voted on.
We would like this to go the a fair vote,
from parents, guardians and graduating seniors.
So if it stays in “RIO RANCHO” then it stays,
But if it goes back to The PIT then goes back.
That is all that is being asked.
Read the other blogs it will bring you up to date.
See you there
Hope
March 21, 2007 10:44 PM
Ernest said...
PETITION TO GO BACK TO THE PIT
not the center
Ernest
March 21, 2007 10:47 PM
john said...
"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed, by their Creator, with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness."
John
March 21, 2007 10:50 PM
to posse said...
"While the storm clouds gather far across the sea,
Let us swear allegiance to a land that's free,
Let us all be grateful for a land so fair,
As we raise our voices in a solemn prayer.
God Bless America.
Land that I love
Stand beside her, and guide her
Thru the night with a light from above.
From the mountains, to the prairies ,
To the oceans, white with foam
God bless America
My home sweet home."
March 21, 2007 10:56 PM
Michael said...
Many bloggers have asked or stated that this is "America"
and YES we have rights.
"Touché"
"My country, 'tis of Thee,
Sweet Land of Liberty
Of thee I sing;
Land where my fathers died,
Land of the pilgrims' pride,
From every mountain side
Let Freedom ring.
My native country, thee,
Land of the noble free,
Thy name I love;
I love thy rocks and rills,
Thy woods and templed hills,
My heart with rapture thrills
Like that above.
Let music swell the breeze,
And ring from all the trees
Sweet Freedom's song;
Let mortal tongues awake;
Let all that breathe partake;
Let rocks their silence break,
The sound prolong.
Our fathers' God to Thee,
Author of Liberty,
To thee we sing,
Long may our land be bright
With Freedom's holy light,
Protect us by thy might
Great God, our King.
Our glorious Land to-day,
'Neath Education's sway,
Soars upward still.
Its hills of learning fair,
Whose bounties all may share,
Behold them everywhere
On vale and hill!
Thy safeguard, Liberty,
The school shall ever be,
Our Nation's pride!
No tyrant hand shall smite,
While with encircling might
All here are taught the Right
With Truth allied.
Beneath Heaven's gracious will
The stars of progress still
Our course do sway;
In unity sublime
To broader heights we climb,
Triumphant over Time,
God speeds our way!
Grand birthright of our sires,
Our altars and our fires
Keep we still pure!
Our starry flag unfurled,
The hope of all the world,
In peace and light impearled,
God hold secure!"
March 21, 2007 11:02 PM
pitiful said...
Knock! Knock!
who's there?
PIT!
PIT who!
PITiful decision by the school to change the graduation!
March 21, 2007 11:05 PM
bob said...
"Whatever the merits of moving the Rio Rancho High School graduation ceremony to the Santa Ana Star Center in Rio Rancho, the decision should have been made before rather than after families had begun planning.
Extended family members have already made travel plans and requested vacation times in anticipation of attending the ceremony for which they may not now get tickets.
It is apparent there was not enough public deliberation about this issue.
A decision affecting the entire school population should have been discussed publicly so that all voices were heard prior to the decision, particularly since the number of seats available to family and friends of the graduates has been reduced by more than two thirds.
Please join us in moving the graduation ceremony back to The Pit.
Sign the Petition by adding a comment to the open thread on the web log."
We support this blog site
Bob
March 21, 2007 11:33 PM
To anonymous writer said...
Anonymous,
Thanks for your opinion. Whether or not I voted or didn’t vote for a school board member is irrelevant given that the decision to move the graduation ceremony was an administrative decision made after the middle of the year. If you are really the parent of an RRHS graduate then you must have the graduation announcements that say the ceremony will be held at The Pit. Excellent planning--that means we have to stick in that little insert that may as well say “DON’T BOTHER COMING. THERE WILL BE NO ROOM FOR YOU!” By the way, does your conscientious vote for a school board member require you to agree with every position they hold?
If you are truly concerned about parental participation, shouldn’t you be applauding this effort asking the community to become involved in this important event? I’m shocked that you think there’s a restriction on a parent’s right to cry foul at any point in time they feel the need to.
You ask “where does it stop?” Well, I can’t speak for every graduate, but if you have family and friends who have planned to be there for you—to take the time out of their busy lives to mark a milestone with you, than I suppose it would stop at that number. Let’s see: 2 parents + 4 grandparents + 3 brothers and one sister-in-law—that’s 10 already and I’m only counting the immediate family. What about 2 godparents? A favorite aunt and uncle? A best friend who goes to private school? I’m not even including the stepmother or the two ugly stepsisters. I would hardly call these individuals a “posse.”
You should be embarrassed by your own condescending attitude regarding large families. Your use of the term “posse” makes me wonder if you’re a bigot. Do you have a problem with people who have lots of close friends? I wonder if you’re not projecting your own social inadequacies onto those of us who have a lot of folks who we love and include in family gatherings. By your logic Snow White would have to choose among the seven dwarves, the prince, and her fairy godmothers. Oh, wait a minute--it was Sleeping Beauty who had the three fairy godmothers. Four, if you count Maleficent. But, you get my point.
The way I see it, the day is for the graduates to celebrate with the people they love. They have worked hard and earned this celebration. If you have to ask “where does it stop?” —well, I feel sorry for you.
Eve
March 21, 2007 11:44 PM
Snow White said...
OOHH MAN that was good
"my posse's on broadway"
YO, anon,
if you are only taking 4 I need your extra tickets call me
Snow White
March 21, 2007 11:52 PM
Tracy said...
"Those who fail to know their history are doomed to repeat it"
"In every stage of these Oppressions We have Petitioned for Redress in the most humble terms: Our repeated Petitions have been answered only by repeated injury. A Prince whose character is thus marked by every act which may define a Tyrant, is unfit to be the ruler of a free people."
March 22, 2007 12:28 AM
aRT said...
The decision to move graduation is terrible. How does the school believe it is a superior building? It’s smaller and I believe that it was NOWHERE near the University Arena, “The PIT” in a recent list of top venues. The Pit was in the top twenty, number thirteen! Who would want their picture displayed on the widescreens, “The PIT” also has widescreens?
Tradition has always been to hold graduation at “The PIT”. Why break that tradition that’s been with the school – especially at a venue that clearly does not meet all needs.
15,000 seats compared to 4,500 seats – “GO BIG OR STAY HOME”!
March 22, 2007 6:26 AM
7 DWARVES CAN''T GO said...
". . . You should be embarrassed by your own condescending attitude regarding large families.
Your use of the term “posse” makes me wonder if you’re a bigot.
Do you have a problem with people who have lots of close friends?
I wonder if you’re not projecting your own social inadequacies onto those of us who have a lot of folks who we love and include in family gatherings.
By your logic Snow White would have to choose among the seven dwarves, the prince, and her fairy godmothers.
Oh, wait a minute--it was Sleeping Beauty who had the three fairy godmothers.
Four, if you count Maleficent. But, you get my point.
The way I see it, the day is for the graduates to celebrate with the people they love.
They have worked hard and earned this celebration.
If you have to ask “where does it stop?” —well, I feel sorry for you. . ."
March 22, 2007 6:35 AM
BETTY said...
Rio Rancho High School, we agree and support your return the UNM PIT,
Betty
March 22, 2007 6:39 AM
SUE said...
THIS BLOG SPOT REALLY REALLY REALLY IS GREAT KEEP UP THE OUTSTANDING WORK HERE WE ARE SO SO GLAD TO BE ABLE TO HAVE A VOICE IN THIS GIGANTIC MISTAKE AFFECTING OUR CHILDREN OUR FAMILIES OUR COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE
SUSAN
March 22, 2007 6:40 AM
pETER said...
Bobby D said...
"Come writers and critics
Who prophesize with your pen
And keep your eyes wide
The chance won't come again
And don't speak too soon
For the wheel's still in spin
And there's no tellin' who
That it's namin'.
For the loser now
Will be later to win
For the times they are a-changin'."
March 22, 2007 6:42 AM
leonard said...
Please allow the parents the legal guardians and seniors vote. Put this problem to a FAIR vote.
March 22, 2007 6:45 AM
Becky S said...
I want to see my niece graduate at the pit not at a center that sounds a lot like a casino.
Are we going to the casino after the graduation, maybe that is where the staff and board members will be. Heh that is why they changed it, now we can understand their decision better. What were you all thinking!!
March 22, 2007 6:50 AM
jack said...
Herein, confirms that the person or persons involved in making this last minute decision/change did not take into full account all of this information!
If this was not a last minute decision, then why did it take until March 2007 to spring it on us?
Was there a vote?
Was balanced input solicited?
Who, What, When, Where, Why and How did this come about?
Please be respectfully advised that we are not in the minority here, we are in the majority here and absolutely not at all happy with this last minute change!
Lets put it to a vote now.
March 22, 2007 6:52 AM
Brandon said...
I want to see my sister graduate and get her diploma.
But I might have to give my ticket to Grandma so she can go.
Now that is not right.
Please help us get it back to the pit so everyone can go who wants to.
March 22, 2007 7:04 AM
Stunned said...
I just read my Observer
sorry I must have not gotten the memo
WOW, who paid who to get this changed?
Jay
March 22, 2007 7:10 AM
To Sue Cleveland said...
Sue Cleveland, you are going to get sued or have an injunction brought against you.
What comes around will go around.
Honestly, you are a much better person than this big mess.
Here is your time to shine and stop this ordeal.
You have not heard the end of this.
Comment after comment show you never let parents vote.
You only let certain people call in and complain.
There is nothing wrong with that as long as you let everyone state their case.
That has not happened yet.
Have a fair vote or take it back to the PIT.
I am reading between the lines you are trying very hard to do the right thing and keep the graduation safe.
But the way you are handling this mistake will not set well at all.
Listen, just by you going back to the PIT will calm the crowd.
Sue, do the right thing.
Kyle
March 22, 2007 7:33 AM
Gloria said...
My daughter wants all of her family at her graduation.
Mom, dad, sisters, brother, aunts, uncles, grandparents and cousins. That comes to 16!
Don't make her choose who gets to go and who gets to stay home.
We all want to celebrate with her. BACK TO THE PIT!
Graduates and parents should have had a choice, it's our graduation, not the administrations!
March 22, 2007 7:35 AM
jake said...
We heard last year’s Graduation had a rowdy crowd and security was an issue? Please do not penalize the class of 2007 that cannot be blamed for last year.
March 22, 2007 7:38 AM
to art said...
"The Arena"
"The PIT"
"Sports Illustrated's Top-20 Sports Venues of the Century:
In June, 1999, Sports Illustrated listed its top-20 sporting venues of the century and The Pit checked in at No. 13.
“Sports Illustrated in 1999 named The Pit one of the Top 20 sporting venues of the 20th century — a list that includes Yankee Stadium, Wrigley Field, Pebble Beach and Daytona International.
Yeah, that’s big-time company. That’s like being compared to Babe Ruth, Joe Louis, Man O’ War, the Roman Empire, George Washington, Marlon Brando, Katharine Hepburn.
When you make an elite list like that maybe something special had to happen in The Pit above and beyond Lobos basketball.
And it did.”
We support this blog
Max
March 22, 2007 7:42 AM
KOAT wants you to call said...
Please call or email:
Rio Rancho Blog
KOAT is interested in updating our story on your fight to have the
graduation ceremonies moved back to the Pit.
Please write back with contact information or give me a call.
Thanks,
Cary J. Schwanitz
505-884-6324
cschwanitz@hearst.com
March 22, 2007 9:17 AM
to anony said...
Anonymous,
I noticed you didn’t deny being a bigot.
3 in my family.
"Nothing against large families"
qoute you called them "posse"?
I voted and I support the board too, maybe we can share recipes.
This matter never went to the board.
Perhaps they have lost sight of the goal: Do as I say not as I do. Input was not received from everyone.
The ceremony is just the asterik for the 12/13 years of education.
ditto-thanks for playing :-)
March 22, 2007 9:57 AM
Will said...
To anonymous
We heard you.
The board did not have a say in this.
March 22, 2007 11:53 AM
Albuquerque Tribune said...
Please email and call Stephanie:
HI, this is Stephanie from the Albuquerque Tribune. I'd like to speak to someone about this. My number is 823-3609.
Thanks,
Stephanie Garcia Krenrich
sgarciakrenrich@abqtrib.com
March 22, 2007 12:08 PM
PIT said...
Hello everyone,
I am a graduating senior, YEEAAAHH!!!
I have read the blogs.
Several of us seniors really like the idea to have graduation here.
BUT, the way it all came about is so unfair.
So, no disrespect to the school, but we need to have the graduation where we were all told it would be to begin with, at THE PIT.
Thank you.
A O
March 22, 2007 2:01 PM
JL said...
Hello,
I am a graduating senior!!!!
Several of us really like the idea to have graduation here.
BUT, the way it all came about is so unfair!!!
No disrespect to the school, but I agree we need to have the graduation where we were all told it would be to begin with, at THE PIT.
Thank you for your time.
JL
March 22, 2007 2:11 PM
RRPS said...
13 years at RRPS
At the beginning of the year at the Senior Assembly when the Seniors were being told about ordering their cap and gowns and graduation announcements both Mr. Duncan, the activities director and Mr. VonAncken said that the class of 2007 would most likely be the biggest graduating class in New Mexico and in the history of Rio Rancho.
Also, that there are Seniors that have been going to RRPS their whole lives and they would like to do something special about that this year.
It was absolutely clear the venue would be “The Pit” and their would be no limit on people attending.
Therefore, plans, ordering announcements, buying airline tickets, scheduling time off were ALL done prior to this change!
They were well aware of this!
This also means they were well aware that just by the very size of the class graduating would indicate the strong likelihood that potentially more persons would be in attendance then all of the previous graduations!
March 22, 2007 3:11 PM
seniors said...
!!!!!!!!!!!!!ATTENTION SENIORS!!!!!!!!!!!!
· PLEASE CONTACT http://rioranchogradsunite.blogspot.com/ or email: cmj2nc@aol.com TODAY!
· CALL RRPS DISTRICT TODAY IF YOU OR YOUR PARENTS ARE CONCERNED ABOUT GRADUATION BEING CHANGED TO THE SANTA ANA STAR CENTER (896-0667 SUPERINTENDENT & SCHOOL BOARD).
· TELL THEM YOU WANT IT AT “THE PIT”
· IF THEY REALLY WANTED OUT OF THE CONRACT, THEY CAN GET OUT OF THE CONRACT. "NOTHING IS IMPOSSIBLE"
· MAKE SURE YOUR PARENTS KNOW YOUR GRADUATION ANNOUNCEMENTS WILL STILL SAY “THE PIT” ON THE ANNOUNCEMENT BUT THERE WILL BE AN INSERT STATING THE CHANGE (HOW TACKY) YOU CAN STILL GET A REFUND.
· REMEMBER THERE IS ONLY ONE LANE ENTERING AND ONE LANE LEAVING THE CENTER IMAGINE THE MESS FOR BOTH STUDENTS AND PARENTS HAVING TO DRIVE THERE.
· WE SHOULD HAVE A SAY IN WHERE WE WANT TO GRADUATE; REMEMBER SENIORS IN THE WORDS OF OUR PRINCIPAL “THE CHOICE IS YOURS!!!!!!!!!!”
March 22, 2007 5:21 PM
Bruce said...
WHEN YOU ALL OPEN THE OTHER HIGH SCHOOL
THEN YOU CAN HAVE YOUR GRADUATION IN RIO RANCHO
BECAUSE UNTIL THEN
RRHS WILL CONTINUE TO HAVE THE MOST SENIORS GRADUATING YEAR IN AND YEAR OUT
WHO IS KEEPING COUNT?
IF I KNOW THAT HOW IS IT THE ONES RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS SOMEHOW FORGOT THAT?
THAT IS WHY A NEW SCHOOL IS NEEDED RIGHT?
WE FULLY SUPPORT THE HAVE THE GRADUATION AT THE PIT
March 22, 2007 5:30 PM
maggie said...
SERIOUSLY…SIMPLY, WHAT PRICE DO YOU PLACE ON A CELEBRATION OF LOVE AND LIFE?!
THE COST THE SAVINGS THAT MRS. CLEVELAND AND MR. VONANCKEN ALLUDE TO ABSOLUTELY DO NOT OUT WEIGH WHAT WILL BE COMPLETELY LOST!
YES, EVEN TO ATTEMPT TO PLACE A PRICE ON THIS ENTIRE PROCESS, CELEBRATION AND EVENT IS INAPPROPRIATE BECAUSE IT IS TRULY “PRICELESS”!
TO ARGUE THIS IMPORTANT POINT IS IGNORANCE AND…..WELL….VERY WRONG.
March 22, 2007 5:33 PM
francis said...
Save my everyone's sanity!
Please move the Rio Rancho High School graduation ceremony back to The PIT.
Right now!
March 22, 2007 5:35 PM
4 children said...
I am the mother of four children and writing this on behalf of my husband and family.
Our son is graduating and we don't have enough tickets.
Four grandparents, two parents and three siblings comes out to nine guests. Oops, I hope that does not offend anyone!
Someone, was overly concerned about how many children one has?
We are three tickets short.
A person noted earlier that they don't want to shortchange anyone out of a ticket, neither do we.
You are making us choose who will get to go and you are making us cheat someone else from going.
My son has asked for extra tickets and there is none available.
We are asking Dr. Cleveland to allow families and graduates to vote and return this celebration to the Pit.
Thank you,
Julia
March 22, 2007 5:42 PM
i said...
Dr. Cleveland,
This is the Largest Graduating Class in Rio Rancho history and the largest Class in the state.
To place the largest Class in a smaller venue is not a well thought out plan at this late notice no matter what the logic.
It clearly discriminates against person's with "large families" and prohibits anyone else they know from being able to come.
My day really goes by, there is not enough time in the day.
For anyone out of their busy schedule to want to go to a "high school graduation" really wants to go.
Sorry to hear about 06.
Lets not be prejudice here.
If someone wants to go then that is up to them.
Higher extra guards.
Change this back.
Thank you,
Jeremy
March 22, 2007 5:56 PM
bev said...
"BACK TO THE PIT"
OR
Please allow the parents the legal guardians and seniors vote.
Put this problem to a FAIR vote.
Not controlled completely by RRPS.
A FAIR vote.
March 22, 2007 6:13 PM
hugh said...
"A newspaper article stated, 'many' parents called asking to have the graduation changed to the Santa Ana Star owned by the casino/center hockey rink.
There will now be 'many' more parents calling to complain that this was not a well thought out idea.
Per the newspaper a handful of parents requested this?
This does not go over very well for Everyone affected regarding the decision process and the person or persons behind it.
'Many'?
How many was 'many'?
Lets put this to a vote, just do the math if 10,000+ persons can’t attend, then clearly there are 'many' more then the 'many' the administration is stating wanted this change.
Just think about this big mess logically."
March 22, 2007 7:38 PM
Anonymous said...
I am sick and tired of reading the rants and raves of those that write to get over it, obviously they don't have friends and family that they care about. I don't care where they have the graduation as long as there is room for those that wish to attend and not put limits. I am disappointed that the board did not take a vote in all this mess up. I think that they should have saved this for next year or the years to come when there is enough notice to let students and parents know well in advance what is to take place and not just decide to change things 3 months before graduation. Plans have been made and now they expect us to just toss everything out the window. Also all the expense of purchasing there package of all the graduation announcements and other items, most of that stuff is of no use to me I can only send out 1 announcement I can go to Kinko's and make my own announcements that would cost me about 1.00 but I spent 189.00 on this pkg. I would like to know how I can get a refund on this. The more that things happen with graduation the worse it gets, now the students will not get their caps and gowns until the day of graduation. What about wanting to take pictures with cap and gown to send to Friends and family, first they can not attend now we cant send pictures with what they would look like on graduation DAY. I guess the students are also suppose to walk the line in there caps and gowns all wrinkled because they will not have time to press or iron them to look decent. I am so disappointed in this whole mess. We have planned this day for months and waited for years to see our child graduate and take the next step in life but I can honestly say that Rio Rancho High School ruined this for us. I wish I could take this to court and let the RRHS know what they have done to the students and parents that are in my same situation we need our voices heard. very upset in Rio Rancho
March 22, 2007 8:27 PM
M. Warren said...
The Santa Ana Casino owns the Santa Ana Star Center. The casino will reap the profits from the fee for holding the RRHS graduation at the Star Center.
Who would you rather have reap the profit? The Santa Ana Casino? or the University of New Mexico?
March 22, 2007 9:28 PM
Anonymous said...
Mr. Warren,
The Santa Ana Star bought the NAMING RIGHTS, not the center. The casino won't gain a dime from graduation. Read your newspaper, you are uninformed.
March 22, 2007 9:35 PM
happy my kid is graduating said...
See http://www.nmbiz.com/06-09Sept/24.htm for the straight skinny on who owns the "Star".
March 22, 2007 9:45 PM
did anyone like? said...
did anyone like that "knock knock" joke?
March 22, 2007 10:01 PM
Homestar Runner & red rabbit said...
By the way, if you click on this link, you will see the list of corporate partners of The Santa Ana Star Center:
Santa Ana Star Casino
The Rio Rancho Observer
99.3 KOB FM
770 KKOB
Mew Mexico's CW
Perfection Honda
JohnnyBoards LLC
First Community Bank
Qwest
Crystal Springs
O'Hare's Grille & Pub / Hot Tamales
Rio Rancho Printing
March 22, 2007 10:28 PM
Teddy said...
Hello everybody,
We are just interested in having the graduation at the Pit.
March 22, 2007 10:31 PM
"God Bless America" said...
And all those other countries too!
Blog on brother, blog on!
March 22, 2007 10:41 PM
fact said...
Fact sheet:
http://www.santaanastarcenter.com/partnership/
factsheet.pdf
March 22, 2007 10:48 PM
to happy my kid is graduating said...
To: happy my kid is graduating said...
In a nut shell what is this article saying that you sent?
I'm at grapevine0691@aol.com
See http://www.nmbiz.com/06-09Sept/24.htm for the straight skinny on who owns the "Star".
"BACK TO THE PIT"
March 22, 2007 11:00 PM
M. Warren said...
The Santa Ana Casino are "Corporate Partners" with the Santa Ana Star Center.
Who would you rather have benefit? The Casino? or the University of New Mexico?
What percentage of RRPS has attended UNM?
What percentage of RRPS 2007 will attended UNM?
Thank you for the "skinny"
http://www.santaanastarcenter.com/corporate_
partners.php
March 22, 2007 11:23 PM
koat-tv said...
UPDATE:
KOAT is interested in updating THEIR story on the fight to have the graduation ceremonies moved back to the Pit. "ANYONE" interested in doing an interview. Please write back with contact information or call.
Cary J. Schwanitz
505-884-6324
Email cschwanitz@hearst.com if you want your views to be heard by KOAT.
News Coverage
KOAT-TV had excellent coverage of the Rio Rancho graduation moving from its original venue at The Pit. There's a short commercial right before the main story.
www.koat.com/video/11177714/index.html?taf=alb
March 23, 2007 6:56 AM
Albuquerque Tribune said...
Please email and call Stephanie:
HI, this is Stephanie from the Albuquerque Tribune. I'd like to speak to someone about this. My number is 823-3609.
Thanks,
Stephanie Garcia Krenrich
sgarciakrenrich@abqtrib.com
March 23, 2007 6:58 AM
email them said...
schoolboard@rrdo.rrps.k12.nm.us, nmiqgovima@state.nm.us, robert.sjostrand@jostens.com, theobserver@rrobserver.com, news@rrobserver.com, wduncan@rrhs.rrps.k12.nm.us, dnsimmons@rrhs.rrps.k12.nm.us, district@rrdo.rrps.k12.nm.us, opinion@abqjournal.com, kvesely@rrdo.rrps.k12.nm.us, target7@thenewmexicochannel.com, news@kobtv.com, sandrade@hearst.com, dick.knipfing@krqe.com, erika.ruiz@krqe.com, krqesoundoff@krqe.com, cizaguirre@hearst.com, mmaez@hearst.com, mgarofalo@hearst.com, jjojola@kobtv.com, administration@ci.rio-rancho.nm.us, cmj2nc@aol.com, mayor@ci.rio-rancho.nm.us, PStephenson@rrhs.rrps.k12.nm.us, mhartranft@abqjournal.com, romero@rrhs.rrps.k12.nm.us, asweet@rrhs.rrps.k12.nm.us, parentconnect@rrdo.rrps.k12.nm.us, Arteche@rrhs.rrps.k12.nm.us, DKelly@rrhs.rrps.k12.nm.us, pivy@rrhs.rrps.k12.nm.us, plopez@rrhs.rrps.k12.nm.us, aeveleth@rrhs.rrps.k12.nm.us, Dobson@rrhs.rrps.k12.nm.us, Moreno@rrhs.rrps.k12.nm.us, rgalindo@rrhs.rrps.k12.nm.us, Simmons@rrhs.rrps.k12.nm.us, barbour@rrhs.rrps.k12.nm.us, yvalencia@rrhs.rrps.k12.nm.us, Romero@rrhs.rrps.k12.nm.us, webmaster@rrdo.rrps.k12.nm.us, vonancken@rrhs.rrps.k12.nm.us, service@Jostens.com, rmartinez@abqjournal.com, sspalding@kobtv.com, rdereyes@kobtv.com, van.tate@krqe.com, SStucker@kobtv.com, JLucas@kobtv.com, mike.powers@krqe.com, Roland.Glembine@krqe.com, annie.mccormick@krqe.com, jen.jackson@krqe.com, bill.diven@krqe.com, cornelas@kobtv.com, cmahoney@kobtv.com, adarveaux@kobtv.com, jmaher@kobtv.com, gschwartz@kobtv.com, aantonio@kobtv.com, ekahnert@kobtv.com, nbrady@kobtv.com, jvigil@kobtv.com, caragon@kobtv.com, tjoles@kobtv.com, KOBWebmaster@kobtv.com, edreher@rrdo.rrps.k12.nm.us, kkobam@citcomm.com, Talkradiojim@aol.com, sgarciakrenrich@abqtrib.com, cschwanitz@hearst.com, ebriseno@abqjournal.com, barmijo@abqjournal.com, editor@abqtrib.com
March 23, 2007 7:12 AM
Tony said...
Mr. VonAncken,
I talked to you on the phone when you returned my call after a couple of days off.
The school board let us order our graduation invitations and we were not told we were going
to be limited to six invitations per family.
We have invited our families from out of town and they have already requested time off to be here.
If the school board wants to move the graduation let it be next year .. not in the last quarter of the year.
It is very unfair for all of us who have made plans and invited all our families to attend the graduation.
I have never heard a high school limiting people from attending a high school graduation.
It’s supposed to be a very special accomplishment in life and a lot of young kids will have to stay home and not be able to see what they have to look forward when they graduate.
It’s a very bad decision …
Rio Rancho Graduation Belongs in the Pit
Tony Maez
March 23, 2007 7:32 AM
“Go BIG or stay HOME”! said...
Rio Rancho, you have the largest Graduating Class in the entire State and School History what will you do now?
Rio Rancho, “Go BIG or stay HOME”! “The Pit” is the Biggest venue in the state!
Well we are not going to Disneyland.....NO!!! We are going to have our graduation in Rio Rancho so our money WILL NOT be spent in Albuquerque (as stated by the administration) but NO wait the administration OK’d our announcements, cap & gown, class ring and pictures to be bought in Albuquerque?! Hey, at $100 a pop that is $75,000 or at $180 a pop that is $135,000 or at $200 a pop is $150,000, get the picture? Someone other then Rio Rancho is making out good! Do you realize after all is said and done over $500,000 is being spent in Albuquerque on the whole enchilada anyway?
Our Basketball Championship games leading to the finals were at “The Pit" where everyone that we know seemed to make it there with no complaints of the drive, and all done in Albuquerque. (Which was one of the complaints it was too far (17 miles) and dangerous to drive to the graduation but not for the games, and on several different days Rio Rancho drove there because we kept winning and WON IT ALL!?) We have numerous families in Rio Rancho that are season ticket holders to events at the “The Pit” and other events taking place in Albuquerque where the venue is over 18,000+ persons.
FYI: At “The Pit" you have at least 4 ways to enter from and leave North, South, East and West with at least 3 lanes and a newly constructed Freeway you can use going to or when leaving! Lets compare the venues, who knows how long it will take for us to get to and out of the Santa Ana with the whole 2 ways to get there on a 2 lane road with only 1 lane going in and only 1 lane going out, just exactly like a bottle neck, there are no U turns on this little journey. That sounds like fun to me, make sure the family members that received the “golden ticket” and that are allowed to go, all bring their DVD or CD players while driving to and then leaving to get back home that depending on where you live in Rio Rancho is 15 minutes away, each way, that is with no heavy traffic either. Yes this Graduation is going to take a lot longer then 15 minutes drive time each way both going and coming. Also, take a jaunt out there yourself time it from your driveway all the way to where you stop, where you actually park, it will take some of us longer, and speaking of parking, that is going to be a mess! Don’t forget ONLY 1 way in and 1 way out. Did they take into account people other then Rio Rancho and from Albuquerque or even other cities in the state as well as out of state will be coming to this Graduation? This is very important, not everyone going lives in Rio Rancho! You did not take that into consideration.
The decision lends itself with all of the limits placed on it to: no outsiders allowed! We decree by order of VonDuncan and the “many”, at the very last minute - in Rio Rancho, for Rio Rancho, by Rio Rancho, God forbid if you have more then 6 guests!! 2 Parents, 2 Siblings and only 1 set of Grandparents, that is 6, too bad for “Grammy” and “Grampa”, the other set of Grandparents! If you don’t fit into that cookie cutter template logic if you by chance have an extra family member, then you are out of luck, too bad so sad. And to hell with the Aunts and Uncles and Cousins! Draw straws, that is a great idea! Arm wrestle that’s better yet! And to all you folks that bought airline tickets in advance, …shucks. Or if you worked like hell, extra hours or O.T. to have these days off….oops. Oh and the “extra” tickets available, those will be few and far between because 4,500 divided by 750 is 6! But not everyone will need 6, true but based on previous year’s numbers for person’s attending and the fact this is the Largest Graduating Class ever, both mathematically and logically there will be “many” more Seniors that will need more then 6 tickets! We know because several of the Graduates have stated that “everyone” is asking for extra tickets. Think about it a 15,000-person venue down to a 4,500-person venue, WE NEED TICKETS!!
You say, in the past “we always got ‘The Pit’ on a bad day” well not this year, we have in on a Saturday at 4 PM.
And it is very sad to read in the newspaper, people actually condemning those that just happen to have a larger inner circle of more then 6! The attitude is like shame on you for wanting so many tickets, you know if one family needs 2 tickets tops or less, that’s cool, and if one family needs 20 tickets more or less, that’s cool too! But to condemn anyone that have more in their network is ignorance. Just think about the last high school graduation you went to that was not your own child then think about the one you went to that was not related. Now, after you have done that we only go to graduations that we want to go to because of our history with the graduate. We criticize and punish the person graduating because of too many contacts, how very sad. The persons complaining wrote it was “ridiculous”, that narrow-minded mentality is what is “ridiculous” not those that have a larger inner circle of people. More power to you if you know people that want to come witness your achievement! FYI: Our state has one of the highest dropout and suicide rates in the country, just ask Dr. Cleveland. So obtaining your High School diploma is outstanding!
But large sums of money were saved? So says the administration. Yes exactly $1,990.06 was saved! Great that means the 15,000 seats available at “The Pit” for $8K is a much better deal then the 4,500 seats at the hockey rink for $6K? Wait a minute we better ask someone Graduating who can add, if you do the math, each seat at the rink actually costs more then each seat at “The Pit”? Somehow by that logic if both seats are priced the same we should be only paying a total $2,385.00 for the use of the rink not $6,000.00! Again, that total ($2,385) is based on if both the seats at both venues cost the same.
Speaking of more savings, too bad the decision makers don't pay for the graduation accessories that we have to pay for, bought in Albuquerque not Rio Rancho. If you don’t know, Jostens who is handling the announcements was also affected by this last second poorly planned decision. It is too late for them to take out “The Pit” and the location!!! OOPPSS!! It is already etched in stone so to speak, in all of the announcements! (That is NOT going to look good) And because of the downsizing with this last minute decision we now have a surplus of incorrect announcements, much more then we needed in the first place! Now with all the extra announcements that we paid for, now we have to put a total of 2, yes Dos inserts in them, the administration's insert and now our own insert (how professional looking) because the original announcement will in fact still read the Graduation is at “The Pit", maybe with a thick black magic marker we could draw a large X thru that? But hopefully they will see the first insert, which will explain, no it's not at “The Pit" that portion is wrong it is at the “Santa Ana Star owned by the Casino Center hockey rink” here is a map to show you how to get to the 2 lane road after you have driven thru Rio Rancho, (the professionals spent a lot of time clarifying that little tid-bit of info-the name of the venue, even an editor chimed in) but hopefully we who paid for now too many announcements because of the terrible last minute change without everyone’s input are praying they somehow they will see the second insert stating you can't go we are just teasing you, we only have 6 tickets so we can be like “all the other districts” that can ONLY use their Gym, (although if these districts were 17 miles away would love to use “The” storied “Pit”) unlike us with the State’s largest Graduating Class and can use “The Pit”. HEY, No inserts needed if we stay at “The Pit”. Whether you choose one or two inserts to try to explain this debacle in your announcement it won’t look good and will be confusing. So to those lucky ones that won’t be able to go, just send your regards to your Sister or Brother, or Granddaughter or Grandson or favorite Relative that will be Graduating and we the limited family members that flipped a coin to get in, will tell you how it went!
According to the administration of course the most important part of all this graduation, is, it will be in Rio Rancho at the best facility they could get, so that our Graduates can limit the number of members of their families to see them Graduate after 12 years of working hard and they don't get to decide where they want it, the district did it for them, and with only 2 months to go, thank you so much for the early notice, you allowed us no real time to prepare. Even though we had plans that have to be completely changed! People that purchased airline tickets, took time off, etc. We have nothing else going on in our lives. To change venues with such short notice is affecting our Graduates along with thousands of people, and the administration is OK with that?!
Sadly, in the “words of wisdom” from Rio Rancho High School’s own principal’s mouth, where is says, “the choice is yours.” Clearly this is not true even though it has been stated everyday on the announcements he gives. Not ALL of the Seniors had a say a “choice” in this and it is THEIR DAY, right? Not ALL the parents/guardians had a say a “choice” in this and it is THEIR CHILD’S DAY, right? Only a certain few received this important privilege. Just think about that for a minute or 2, how unfair is that? The “Class Song” is “Dream On”, and that is exactly what VonDuncan and Cleveland has told the Class of 2007, “oh you would like your graduation to be returned to ‘The Pit’ Seniors”? “Well ‘Dream On’ Seniors”.
We heard the excuse, “we couldn’t get all the Seniors on the floor last year if we go the the hockey rink we can”. I’m not sure what has changed on the floor of “The Pit” but check and verify this fact, I know I was present in the early 70’s, Sandia High School graduated 2 classes with over 900+ students on the floor and one class which is the Largest Class ever in NM history, with over 1,000+ Seniors all on the floor. So you might want to see why or how that was. Basically, it can be done.
Because of issues with past Graduations but last years in particular, the Class of 2007 and those closest to them get to feel the brunt of the penalty that they are innocent of. What an interesting lesson in life, forget about the stress this ripple affect is causing right now, the decree has spoken. Forget about what is right or wrong or fair and unfair, the decree has spoken. Forget about the fact your announcement will be tacky and confusing and you have much more then you needed, the decree has spoken. Forget about the fact we disrupted your plans and peoples lives, the decree has spoken. Forget about the fact this is YOUR DAY, this is a Celebration, and ALL of your supporting cast does not have to be present, the decree has spoken. Forget about the fact we told you at the last minute, gave you no fair warning with input coming only from the privileged and the administration, sprinkled with a few politicians, the decree has spoken!
An editor and the administration all referred to the “many” that wanted this, what is the problem with putting this to a vote, right now? You will all find out the actual “many” want this event at “The Pit”. Our Seniors will have to revert back to their grade school days, you print up what 750 notes home with 2 boxes to check on the note - “The Pit” or no “Pit”, parents and guardians along with each Senior will vote. Unlike the decree that has been imposed upon everyone, where only a certain “many” voices were heard and acted on, simply, that decision that act in itself is so wrong and so very unfair, this is America right? (The school Board is supposed to uphold the Constitution of the United States, just ask them). Make sure you number each one of these notes that way they can be counted fairly. Add a few lines so the Graduate and their Parent/Guardian can print and sign. If you have a better idea, wonderful as long as the vote process is fair. If the vote comes back no “Pit”, then the editor, the administration and the so called “many” had a finger on the pulse and IF the vote comes back “The Pit” then Hallelujah! Times a wastin’!
At this point, no fair or reasonable explanation can out weigh ALL the reasons why the Graduation should be at “The Pit”. Go ahead and weigh each and every matter honestly and fairly, both sides, the “proof is in the pudding”, fact, the way this entire decision was imposed has been handled, is wrong and very unfair. If it were above board, we would not be writing this.
Sincere apologies if I offended anyone with my sarcasm, I’ve read several comments back and forth when this started here in March with some good news coverage and then very one sided editors chiming in, contradictions and so on, so like a magnet I am jumping in.
And like those before me read everything below and then please "PASS IT ON!
RIO RANCHO BASKETBALL TEAM YOU JUST ROCKED “THE PIT”,
YOU JUST WON YOUR FIRST STATE CHAMPIONSHIP;
MR. VONDUNCAN ENCOURAGED YOU AND ALL STUDENTS
TO “SHOW THEM WE OWN ‘THE PIT’!!
….AND YOU DID!!
WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO NOW?
“WE’RE GOING TO DISNEY LAN….WAIT….NO…..
WE WANT TO GO BACK TO “THE PIT” FOR OUR GRADUATION, WE OWN IT NOW!!
DID YOU SEE HOW MANY FANS WE HAD THERE?! IT WAS GREAT-GO RAMS!!!
March 23, 2007 7:47 AM
like the web log said...
I FOUND YOU!!!
Thank you for thinking outside "the box" and setting this up. This is great!
Simply, what RRPS has imposed along with everything else they have done regarding this graduation debacle is horrendous! I applaud them for wanting the graduation in Rio Rancho. BUT, not this one, not until the “new” school has a graduating class. No matter how they try to “sell” this, they are hurting too many people. 15 to 16000 persons are affected with roughly 10000 that can’t go.
Evan
March 23, 2007 8:59 AM
toby said...
"15 to 16000 persons are DIRECTLY affected with roughly 10000 that can’t go"
i think that pretty much sums it up.
i would add: they did not solicit everyone's input either.
The board never ruled on this one, this was all admin and those in the "shadows".
Oh, and you "blog" persons, thank you very much.
March 23, 2007 9:09 AM
jess said...
06 Parent
"YES the district should have come up with a variety of options and make them available to the public, obtain feedback and base the decision on that feedback in combination with sound financial decisions (as well as access, parking, etc.). YES the timing should have been better. YES the district has not given the public a voice. YES it should probably be moved back to the PIT for this year's graduation."
March 23, 2007 9:18 AM
news flash said...
We heard RRPS has expanded the center seating from 4500 to a little over 5000.
Graduates will get 2 extra tickets max.
Even with this increase they are STILL not allowing up to 10,000 persons attend!
They are "bent" on having this is RR!
They don't care that they NEVER obtained input from everyone affected.
VonAncken is promising they will assist those with their ticket needs. You snooze you lose here.
These efforts should be spent on dropping the "contract" and moving down the hill.
It is sad and amazing what one can do with "power" both good and bad.
RRPS, "its not why you did it, its how you did it!"
Cal
March 23, 2007 9:34 AM
Malone said...
I guess there'll be a whole new batch of whining with the new efforts to resolve this.
"We'll have to get have cable."
"We have to go buy a VCR."
"We'll have to learn to operate a VCR."
"What are you doing for DISH subscribers?"
March 23, 2007 10:57 AM
bennie said...
Family in full support of returning the graduation to The Pit
thank you
Bennie
March 23, 2007 11:01 AM
?malone? said...
Hello "Malone"
I just read your comments.
What do you mean about "cable", "vcr" and "dish"?
Thanks,
Randell
March 23, 2007 11:08 AM
Bert said...
Hi,
I would like to see more effort on the part of the administration to get this graduation out of Rio Rancho.
I make no apologies for having more then 6 people coming in from out of town. We set this all up months ago. "Sorry don't cut it"
March 23, 2007 11:12 AM
carmen said...
RRPS we do not agree with how you handled this graduation. Everything here hits the nail on the head. We need you to listen and GO BACK TO THE PIT
Carmen
March 23, 2007 11:16 AM
Marie said...
I cannot get a refund now.
This has to go back to the pit!
March 23, 2007 11:17 AM
I hope I did this right? said...
I hope I did this right?
Our family agrees that we need to return the the UNM Pit.
Esteban
March 23, 2007 11:18 AM
thanks malone said...
Hey Malone,
thanks,
where did you get that?
Randell
March 23, 2007 11:21 AM
Ken said...
way "Back to Z Pit" please
March 23, 2007 11:23 AM
sorry said...
How does someone go about accessing channel 15?
sorry
March 23, 2007 11:24 AM
come back "Shane" said...
Please relocate the graduation ceremony to The PIT.
Our family will not have enough tickets for all of us to witness our grandson's graduation.
no really its Shane
March 23, 2007 11:28 AM
back to the pit said...
Ok I was told,
I could put this on the internet
here goes
Walt
March 23, 2007 11:31 AM
I support the petition. said...
I really don't know what to write after reading a ton of these comments. But I do know what the school decided to do at the last minute is wrong on so many levels. I support the petition.
Candice
March 23, 2007 11:36 AM
you can quote me said...
"Random acts of kindness"
you can quote me
but keep them random dammit
March 23, 2007 11:39 AM
60's said...
Funny Funny stuff here!!
Go bloggers get us all back to pit
Thank you all for your efforts,
reminds me of the 60's
March 23, 2007 11:46 AM
Dale said...
RIO RANCHO PUBLIC SCHOOLS: We ask that you change this graduation back to the PIT.
Dale
March 23, 2007 12:03 PM
takin' it to the PIT said...
ok, ok,
after reading,
let me guess,
RRPS has come up with even more exciting ways to really foul things up.
Me figures the contract was signed in blood.
so much for the thousands that would like to actually be there.
BACK TO THE PIT one more time
John
March 23, 2007 12:13 PM
Brad said...
I've spent many years trying to squeak out a living in economically depressed communities in New Mexico.
It sure feels good to finally be in a place where the biggest problems in the minds of residents are related to growing pains.
March 23, 2007 12:16 PM
CAROLYN said...
THE BLOG SPOT IS REALLY WONDERFUL THANK YOU FOR THE COMMENTS. OUR FAMILY WILL HAVE OVER 6 PEOPLE COMING. WE DON'T WANT TICKETS WE WANT TO BE AT THE PIT.
CAROLYN
March 23, 2007 12:22 PM
Jesus H. Christ said...
I need tickets for my 12 apostles; my mother and father; Martha and Mary; their brother, and my good pal, Lazarus (I'd move heaven and earth for that guy!). Why do I want all these people to be there? Because that's just how I roll.
So, if you ask yourself, what would Jesus do? I'm here among you to say, "BACK TO THE PIT!!!"
March 23, 2007 12:35 PM
pete said...
It has been said over and over, lets go back to the pit.
Pete D.
March 23, 2007 12:36 PM
what would Jesus do? said...
Dr. Sue Cleveland,
well?
Pam
March 23, 2007 12:39 PM
greg said...
Hello,
Thank you for your interest. "over and over" we have asked to to return to The Pit.
Thank you
March 23, 2007 1:27 PM
SIGN THE PETITION said...
SIGN THE PETITION
Add your name and/or comments to this thread. If you want to go BACK TO THE PIT click on "COMMENTS" below and write in the space provided. To sign up for a Google account, is completely free, or you can comment using the other options.
Contact us at cmj2nc@aol.com
March 23, 2007 1:47 PM
Lee said...
We are writing you to please take the time to read all this information and input and return this graduation to the pit. Because valuable time is passing us by let the parents vote on this that way we can put this whole mess to rest.
Lee
March 23, 2007 1:59 PM
Mandy said...
Mandy is all for returning the graduation.
Thank you
March 23, 2007 3:14 PM
Mandy said...
Mandy is all for returning the graduation.
Thank you
March 23, 2007 3:14 PM
Mandy said...
Seniors Rule:
Go back to the Pit
March 23, 2007 3:21 PM
Just wondering... said...
Does anyone know if the people who made the decision to move the graduation to the Santa Ana Star Center have a financial interest in the Star Center or the casino or in any of the Center's corporate partners? Wouldn't that constitute a conflict of interest?
March 23, 2007 3:32 PM
Sal said...
Crazy!
This is really crazy, the administration is driven to keep this out of Albuquerque at any expense. Even though the entire way it has been handled was improper and discriminatory to anyone with a large family network. I really applaud them for what they are trying do, I do. But this really should have been presented to everyone concerned, not at the last minute.
Sal
March 23, 2007 3:38 PM
just read this said...
CONFLICT OF INTEREST:
I read both of these comments that have already been posted here, does anyone know?
Just wondering... said...
Does anyone know if the people who made the decision to move the graduation to the Santa Ana Star Center have a financial interest in the Star Center or the casino or in any of the Center's corporate partners? Wouldn't that constitute a conflict of interest?
AND
Homestar Runner & red rabbit said...
By the way, if you click on this link, you will see the list of corporate partners of The Santa Ana Star Center:
Santa Ana Star Casino
The Rio Rancho Observer
99.3 KOB FM
770 KKOB
Mew Mexico's CW
Perfection Honda
JohnnyBoards LLC
First Community Bank
Qwest
Crystal Springs
O'Hare's Grille & Pub / Hot Tamales
Rio Rancho Printing
Connie
March 23, 2007 3:44 PM
Rio Rancho Observer said...
No wonder you are so damn biased you all are "CORPORATE PARTNERS"
"rants and raves" baloney
You all are buddies......pals.
Lisa
March 23, 2007 4:04 PM
RRPS said...
Back to the Pit
Camille
March 23, 2007 4:10 PM
i like this one said...
"15 to 16000 persons are DIRECTLY affected with roughly 10000 that can’t go"
i think that pretty much sums it up.
i would add: they did not solicit everyone's input either.
The board never ruled on this one, this was all admin and those in the "shadows".
March 23, 2007 4:22 PM
$corporate partners$$ said...
WOW!!!!!
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$4
March 23, 2007 4:24 PM
Santa said...
Please return to the Pit.
Val
March 23, 2007 5:02 PM
democracy said...
Hello to everyone in support of returning the graduating class of 2007. I have some good news and some bad news. The good news is people see this for what it is. The bad news is Rio Rancho Public Schools does not? All this effort is very positive it shows what people can do. I have read all of the rhetoric, people have been naughty and nice. They continue to ignore common sense and disobey everything they hold our children to. Honesty, integrity, fairness, democracy and so on. Many here have said it a helluva lot better then me. I'm proud to be a part of this process to get this changed.
Jonathon
March 23, 2007 5:32 PM
corporate conflict of interest pards: said...
Becky S said...
I want to see my niece graduate at the pit not at a center that sounds a lot like a casino.
Are we going to the casino after the graduation, maybe that is where the staff and board members will be. Heh that is why they changed it, now we can understand their decision better. What were you all thinking!!
March 23, 2007 5:35 PM
wayne said...
We agree with this PETITION to return the 2007 graduation back to the PIT.
wayne
March 23, 2007 5:38 PM
do the right thing said...
Ethnocentric attitudes trying to melt down 16,000 people into a 5000 person capacity location.
And they are adamant it HAS to be in Rio Rancho.
Just consider everything right about this change and then consider everything wrong about this change.
The answer is so obvious that it has to be money and power driving this whole decision.
My gosh, these are educated people here right?
There is nothing wrong with having the graduation here in Rio Rancho had the process been fair, but it wasn’t.
There also is nothing wrong with having the graduation in Albuquerque under all the circumstances.
There is a HUGE wrong being forced on entire families by those that are really pushing the change.
Do the right thing.
Adam
March 23, 2007 6:00 PM
This is GREAT!! said...
This is GREAT!!
Back to the Pit please
Santiago
March 23, 2007 6:10 PM
Ditto said...
DITTO to everything here.
Kris
March 23, 2007 6:16 PM
in great company said...
Sports Illustrated's Top-20 Sports Venues of the Century:
In June, 1999, Sports Illustrated listed its top-20 sporting venues of the century and The Pit checked in at No. 13.
“Sports Illustrated in 1999 named The Pit one of the Top 20 sporting venues of the 20th century — a list that includes Yankee Stadium, Wrigley Field, Pebble Beach and Daytona International.
Yeah, that’s big-time company. That’s like being compared to Babe Ruth, Joe Louis, Man O’ War, the Roman Empire, George Washington, Marlon Brando, Katharine Hepburn.
When you make an elite list like that maybe something special had to happen in The Pit above and beyond Lobos basketball.
And it did.”
March 23, 2007 6:57 PM
Anonymous said...
we as parents and graduates need to unite as one and let the board and school know that we will not stand for this. this blog is great and let eachother now what is happening but is the super intendent reading all of this we need to call off the wall and request a emergency board meeting an take off of work or what ever we need to do. But it is going to take alot more than just a few parents to do this. lets continue to let the so called higher ups know that thay cant keep doing what they are doing. They talk about bullies in school and it wont be tolerated but who is doing the bullining WE WONT STAND FOR IT come on every one lets do something
March 23, 2007 6:58 PM
right on.................................................................. said...
right on!!!
right on!!!
right on!!!
March 23, 2007 6:59 PM
Luke said...
Dang!!
I am really sorry I am late to this little get together.
You all took the words right out of my mouth.
We support this petition.
Luke
March 23, 2007 7:03 PM
Anonymous said...
please contact Yvette at 994-9648 to help her get names and # to support our voices. we need to present them to the board.
March 23, 2007 7:03 PM
Jill said...
Luke said...
Dang!!
I am really sorry I am late to this little get together.
You all took the words right out of my mouth.
We support this petition.
Luke
March 23, 2007 7:07 PM
don't give up said...
Don't give up
March 23, 2007 7:12 PM
Anonymous said...
We need your help Yvette has arrainged for someone from the news chanell to come out on sunday the 25th to the Santa Ana Star Center at 1:00 pm to come and talk to us parents and those who would like to voice there say in this. PLEASE PLEASE come out and help support us lets show the board they cant just bully us. We need to show that we want the pit back. Please call Yvette for more info 994-9648 thanks for all your support.
March 23, 2007 7:30 PM
Anonymous said...
did you hear about the new decision that RRHS has now.
Lets broad cast it on TV. WOW what a great IDEA lets just let frends and family sit in our living room with a bowl of popcorn and soda and ejoy the show. How tacky is that.
March 23, 2007 7:36 PM
TO YVETTE said...
YVETTE,
WHAT IS YOU EMAIL ADDRESS?
SO PEOPLE CAN HAVE IT.
THANK YOU
RYAN
March 23, 2007 7:51 PM
CALL YVETTE 994-9648 said...
Hello everyone that would like the graduation to return to THE PIT.
IT IS NOT TO LATE, DON'T GIVE UP.
Please contact Yvette at 994-9648 to help her get names and #’s to support our voices.
We need to network with everyone and present our concerns to the board and administration.
We need to show strength in numbers.
We need your help Yvette has arranged for someone from the news channel to come out on Sunday the 25th to the Santa Ana Star Center at 1:00 pm to come and talk to all parents and those who would like to voice their say in this.
PLEASE EVERYONE, PLEASE come out and help support our request to GO BACK TO THE PIT!.
Lets show the board and administration they can’t just bully us.
WE NEED TO SHOW THAT WE WANT THE PIT BACK.
Please call Yvette for more info 994-9648 thanks for all your support.
REMEMBER WE HAVE TO WORK TOGETHER.
DON'T GIVE UP THERE IS A LOT MORE FAMILIES AND PEOPLE THAT WANT IT AT THE PIT!
THE PIT WILL HOLD UP 15 TO 16,000 PEOPLE.
THAT MEANS OVER 10 TO 11,000 PEOPLE WON’T BE ABLE TO GO.
GO BACK TO THE PIT!!
Thank you,
Yvette
March 23, 2007 7:55 PM
CLICK ON YOUR REFRESH BUTTON said...
CLICK ON YOUR REFRESH BUTTON
March 23, 2007 7:58 PM
yaragon said...
this is Yvette and I did get the news to come to the santa ana to broadcast our opionion they are also intrested in hearing from SENIORS graduating as well, I also want everyone to know that I did get the opportunity to speak to our "WONDERFUL SCHOOL BOARD PRESIDENT" when I asked who had input on the decision to make the change of graduation she said that the school board made the decision on what they thought the community,graduates and parents would have decided to do but WHAT GIVES THEM THE RIGHT TO THINK FOR US just because they are on the school board they still are supposed to involve the students and their parents thats what the board is supposed to do but when speaking to her I got the impression from the way she spoke to me in her words "no matter what we do or say the contract has already been signed and the money been paid and this is the way it is going to be whether we like it or not to bad" and another thing that bothered me was that she said "that life was full of disappointments and that this was one of them and that our graduates needed to forget about it and move on" I am sure that our graduates have had pleanty of disappointments in their life and have already learned to move on or they would not be graduating now and so they know that our voices and thoughts do matter please come on SUNDAY MARCH 25, 2007 at 1:00 pm to the SANTA ANA CENTER where graduation is supposed to be held and I hope that the board is also reading these comments because they also need to know that they were voted into these positions because the community put them their and these types of decisions can also have them taken out the graduates have followed all the rules that you as board members have put into place for all the years that they have been in school and now you let them know that their family and friends cannot not be their with them come on show our graduates THAT WE SUPPORT THEM AND WHAT THEY THINK DOES MATTER anyone intrested in emailing me can at nanee_angel@yahoo.com and PLEASE HELP I CANNOT DO THIS ALONE WE HAVE TO DO THIS AS PARENT SUPPORT FOR OUR GRADUATES
March 23, 2007 9:16 PM
Anonymous said...
FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, THE PRESIDENT OF THE SCHOOL BOARD WAS APPROACHED BY A CONCERNED PARENT VIA PHONE ASKING WHY THIS DECISION WAS MADE WITHOUT FAIR INVOLVEMENT FROM THE STUDENTS, AND PARENTS ALIKE. HER ANSWER WAS LESS THAN CORDIAL AND SHE STATED THAT SHE MADE THE DECISION WITHOUT CONSULTING ANYONE BECAUSE SHE HAD THE AUTHORITY TO DO SO.. NOT ONLY DO I FIND THIS HORRIBLY OFFENSIVE, BUT NOT EXACTLY CORRECT. MRS. PRESIDENT OF THE STUDENT BOARD YOU ARE HEREBY PUT ON NOTICE...YOU ONLY HAVE THE AUTHORITY THAT WE AS VOTERS GAVE YOU. IN THIS DECISION MAAM YOU ARE NOT REPRESENTING WHAT WE WANT. I THINK WE NEED TO SERIOUSLY RECONSIDER JUST HOW MUCH AUTHORITY WE WILL ALLOW YOU TO HAVE.
I Assure you this isssue will haunt you for the rest of your shortlived political career. Rio Rancho parents and citizens will not allow this obvious abuse of trust and power to go on unquestioned or unchallenged. Our children are very dear to us. We though you undertood that.
March 23, 2007 9:16 PM
CALL YVETTE 994-9648 said...
CALL YVETTE 994-9648
Hello everyone that would like the graduation to return to THE PIT.
IT IS NOT TO LATE, DON'T GIVE UP.
Please contact Yvette at 994-9648 to help her get names and #’s to support our voices.
We need to network with everyone and present our concerns to the board and administration.
We need to show strength in numbers.
We need your help Yvette has arranged for someone from the news channel to come out on Sunday the 25th to the Santa Ana Star Center at 1:00 pm to come and talk to all parents and those who would like to voice their say in this.
PLEASE EVERYONE, PLEASE come out and help support our request to GO BACK TO THE PIT!.
Lets show the board and administration they can’t just bully us.
WE NEED TO SHOW THAT WE WANT THE PIT BACK.
Please call Yvette for more info 994-9648 thanks for all your support.
REMEMBER WE HAVE TO WORK TOGETHER.
DON'T GIVE UP THERE IS A LOT MORE FAMILIES AND PEOPLE THAT WANT IT AT THE PIT!
THE PIT WILL HOLD UP 15 TO 16,000 PEOPLE.
THAT MEANS OVER 10 TO 11,000 PEOPLE WON’T BE ABLE TO GO.
GO BACK TO THE PIT!!
Thank you,
Yvette
March 23, 2007 9:27 PM
Anonymous said...
PUT ON NOTICE PART 2
WAY TO GO YVETTE!!!!
I WILL DEFINATELY BE THERE !!!!!
JOSEPH
March 23, 2007 9:28 PM
Anonymous said...
PUT ON NOTICE PART 3
I APOLOGIZE IT IS NOT THE PRESIDENT OF THE STUDENT BOARD IT IS THE PRESIDENT OF THE SCHOOL BOARD THAT IS SO WRONGLY MISINFORMED. JUST LIKE I MADE THE CORRECTION TO THIS MISTAKE, THE PRESIDENT OF THE SCHOOL BOARD SHOULD CORRECT HERS.
JOSEPH
March 23, 2007 9:36 PM
contact nanee_angel@yahoo.com said...
EMAIL YVETTE: nanee_angel@yahoo.com
CALL YVETTE: 994-9648
Hello everyone that would like the graduation to return to THE PIT.
IT IS NOT TO LATE, DON'T GIVE UP.
Please contact Yvette at 994-9648 to help her get names and #’s to support our voices.
We need to network with everyone and present our concerns to the board and administration.
We need to show strength in numbers.
We need your help Yvette has arranged for someone from the news channel to come out on Sunday the 25th to the Santa Ana Star Center at 1:00 pm to come and talk to all parents and those who would like to voice their say in this.
PLEASE EVERYONE, PLEASE come out and help support our request to GO BACK TO THE PIT!.
Lets show the board and administration they can’t just bully us.
WE NEED TO SHOW THAT WE WANT THE PIT BACK.
Please call Yvette for more info 994-9648 thanks for all your support.
REMEMBER WE HAVE TO WORK TOGETHER.
DON'T GIVE UP THERE IS A LOT MORE FAMILIES AND PEOPLE THAT WANT IT AT THE PIT!
THE PIT WILL HOLD UP 15 TO 16,000 PEOPLE.
THAT MEANS OVER 10 TO 11,000 PEOPLE WON’T BE ABLE TO GO.
GO BACK TO THE PIT!!
Thank you,
Yvette
March 23, 2007 9:59 PM
Ashton said...
We agree with this PETITION to return the 2007 graduation back to the PIT.
Ashton
March 23, 2007 10:49 PM
Dick said...
You all have already written what I wanted to say, thank you.
We agree with this PETITION to return the 2007 graduation back to the PIT.
Dick
March 23, 2007 10:54 PM
gidget said...
City of Vision
wake up!
March 23, 2007 10:56 PM
Oscar said...
We agree with this PETITION to return the 2007 graduation back to the PIT.
Oscar
March 23, 2007 10:57 PM
Dr. said...
We agree with this PETITION to return the 2007 graduation back to the PIT.
Dr. Sue Cleveland
March 23, 2007 10:58 PM
we wish the dr. said...
We agree with this PETITION to return the 2007 graduation back to the PIT.
Anne
March 23, 2007 10:59 PM
D said...
We agree with this PETITION to return the 2007 graduation back to the PIT.
Dara
March 23, 2007 11:00 PM
Allen said...
I saw the newscast by KOAT-TV yesterday.
They are trying their darndest to stay in RR.
I pray they would put that much energy to change it back!
Allen
March 23, 2007 11:02 PM
JT said...
That President of the school board was a witch!
They have NO respect for parents or our children.
I will make it a point to let everyone know what a joke that is.
It is a gool ol' boy network.
And they are stuck on themselves.
March 23, 2007 11:06 PM
8-tickets said...
6-ticket limit.
One Graduate, has 4 Grandparents, 2 Parents, that equals 6 tickets, but what about divorced families that would now have 6 Grandparents and 4 Parents, that equals 8?
That does not even include Sisters, Brothers, Aunts, Uncles, Nieces, Nephews, Cousins, Loved Ones, Neighbors, past Teachers, Employers and Friends!
Now they are saying we will get 8-tickets
We want to have all families and the graduates vote
GO BACK TO THE PIT
March 23, 2007 11:13 PM
Elaine D. Briseño said...
Thursday's announcements still might not appease some parents.
Tony Maez said he is a divorced parent of a graduating senior. He ordered 40 invitations and split them with his wife. He said each is expecting to use all their invitations, meaning even the eight-ticket limit wouldn't be enough. As for the telecast, he said that won't help much either because he has satellite. Maez said he might consider sending some people to the high school to watch it if he does not get enough tickets.
Maez said the school should have waited until next year's graduation to make the switch so parents were not surprised.
"I don't have a problem with them moving the graduation to Rio Rancho, but please tell us at the beginning of the year," he said. "This is awful. It (the broadcast) is a Band-Aid to what they did."
Sharon Parker, who has been outspoken about the change, said the broadcast is an admission that the school was wrong when it decided to change the venue.
"It (the broadcast) does not solve my problem," she said. "When they announce (my daughter's) name, I want her to hear them yelling for her," she said. "I want them to be able to hug her when it's over."
Friday, March 23, 2007
Commencement to Be Televised
By Elaine D. Briseño
Journal Staff Writer
This year's Rio Rancho High School graduation ceremony, which turned controversial when the event was moved to the Santa Ana Star Center, will be televised live on cable Channel 15.
The school administration announced at the end of February it would move the May 19 ceremony from the Pit in Albuquerque to the Star Center in Rio Rancho. The move angered some parents because the smaller venue means the school was going to have to limit the number of guests to six per student.
The Pit can accommodate more than 18,000 with standing room while the capacity at Santa Ana is between 6,000 and 7,000.
(It will be closer to 5,000 for the graduation set up)
RioVision, the community access cable channel, announced Thursday it will air the event on CableOne Channel 15 at 4 p.m. May 19. It will be rebroadcast at some point on Channel 17.
"... We've worked with CableOne, (RRHS) principal Richard Von Ancken and the Santa Ana Star Center so that we'll be able to carry the graduation ceremony live," Ed Smith, owner of Edit House Productions LLC, which manages RioVision, said in a news release. "Friends and family members will be able to gather at homes or community venues to see the ceremony."
Residents who have a satellite dish or no cable will not be able to see the broadcast at home. However, Rio Rancho Public Schools will open the high school's Performing Arts Center so the public can view the event there.
Meanwhile, VonAncken said Thursday that the school has increased the number of tickets per student to eight. He also said that local businesses have donated their suites. There will be a drawing to determine which students will be able to use them.
VanAncken said the capacity at the Star Center on graduation day will be about 6,300.
(It will be closer to 5,000 he is fudging)
Students will also have the opportunity to get extra tickets from their friends or to get unclaimed tickets from the school.
VonAncken has said he switched to the smaller arena because he was approached by parents to do it and it also offers a more intimate setting. The Pit, he has said, does not have enough room to accommodate the school's 700 graduates.
Thursday's announcements still might not appease some parents.
Tony Maez said he is a divorced parent of a graduating senior. He ordered 40 invitations and split them with his wife. He said each is expecting to use all their invitations, meaning even the eight-ticket limit wouldn't be enough. As for the telecast, he said that won't help much either because he has satellite. Maez said he might consider sending some people to the high school to watch it if he does not get enough tickets.
Maez said the school should have waited until next year's graduation to make the switch so parents were not surprised.
"I don't have a problem with them moving the graduation to Rio Rancho, but please tell us at the beginning of the year," he said. "This is awful. It (the broadcast) is a Band-Aid to what they did."
Sharon Parker, who has been outspoken about the change, said the broadcast is an admission that the school was wrong when it decided to change the venue.
"It (the broadcast) does not solve my problem," she said. "When they announce (my daughter's) name, I want her to hear them yelling for her," she said. "I want them to be able to hug her when it's over."
VonAcken said the school is doing everything it can to offer more tickets to families who have people coming in from out of town. He said he does not regret moving the ceremony to Rio Rancho and has had only about 14 families approach the school about needing tickets for people coming from out of town for the event.
March 23, 2007 11:25 PM
Stephanie Garcia Krenrich said...
GRADUATION SITE SWITCH IRKS RIO RANCHO PARENTS
By Stephanie Garcia Krenrich Friday, March 23, 2007
This year, Rio Rancho High School's graduating seniors won't have to drive miles to The Pit, and instead can walk the aisle in a new arena in their own hometown.
(17-18 miles to The Pit on a new freeway with entry and exits N, S, E and W on 3-4 lane roads. For the center you have to drive through Rio Rancho to get to a 2 lane highway, with ONLY 1 way in and 1 way out of the venue, and no way to turnaround! This is easily a 15-minute drive for residents IN Rio Rancho depending what part of the city you live in and the time estimate is with ONLY minimal traffic! Traffic on May 19 will be packed!)
Sound good? Well, not to everyone.
For some of the nearly 700 graduates and their families, the decision to hold commencement exercises at the Santa Ana Star Center instead of The Pit has one big problem.
The new place isn't big enough.
"I ordered 40 invitations," said Tony Maez, whose son will graduate from Rio Rancho High School during the May 19 ceremony. "I'm a divorced parent. My ex-wife has her family. Things like this they should have considered. Now I'm telling my relatives to wait and see what happens."
The Santa Ana Star Center, which opened in November, will hold 5,500 of the graduates' family and friends,
(They originally said 4,500, then they said a little over 5,000, VonAncken is trying to say over 6,000, it will be closer to 5,000)
while the The Pit held 11,000 for the ceremony last year, said Bill Duncan, Rio Rancho High activities director.
(It was closer to 14,000, they had to open a closed section last year. It was a biggest crowd compared to all the other APS graduations in 06. 07 has a bigger class)
The limited space has prompted a collection of angry parents to air their opposition publicly. Some even formed a BLOG to express their distaste over the move.
"The decision should have been made before rather than after families have begun planning," a parent wrote on the blog, at http://www.rioranchogradsunite.blogspot.com/
Kim Vesely, spokeswoman for Rio Rancho Public Schools, said the change was made so students can have graduation in their hometown.
"For many years we've had many inquiries about holding graduation in Rio Rancho," she said. "With the opening of the Santa Ana Star Center, we were able to do it."
Because of the smaller number of seats available, the district will allow graduates a limited number of guests, Duncan said.
Originally, six tickets were to be issued to each graduate this year. That has since been increased to eight tickets each, said Rio Rancho High Principal Richard VonAncken.
The district will make 600 extra tickets available to students, which will be distributed two at a time, starting in early May until they're gone, VonAncken said.
(Those 600 tickets are at the high school and will be televised, this is not at the center)
The ceremony will be also televised on Channel 15, Rio Rancho's public access channel.
Graduation has been held at The Pit for at least the last five years, Duncan said. Before that, the ceremony was at the University of New Mexico's Johnson Gym.
The school district originally set this year's graduation at The Pit on May 19 at 4 p.m. That changed when officials realized the same graduation date and time would be available at the Santa Ana Star Center, Duncan said.
People who oppose the facility change say they weren't involved in the decision-making process.
"It is apparent there was not enough public deliberation about this issue," one parent wrote on the blog. "A decision affecting the entire school population should have been discussed publicly so that all voices were heard prior to the decision."
Although the decision was made at the school level by the principal and the staff, parents were notified immediately in a letter, Vesely said.
(Only 2 months notice)
The change will force families to adjust, Vesely said, but it will have some advantages.
"The graduating class is now so big that students couldn't sit on the gym floor at The Pit," Vesely said. "The (Santa Ana) center has a bigger floor. Students will be able to sit together, and it's a better facility for handicap access."
(They put over a 1,000 graduates on The Pit floor before for some of the past APS schools, it can be done)
Maez says he doesn't oppose the new facility or the fact that school officials want to have the ceremony in their hometown.
But he believes parents should have been informed earlier.
"This is a big step for a kid that is graduating," Maez said. "They want their family to be there."
March 24, 2007 12:06 AM
echarles1234@aol.com said...
If you are against the move to return to THE PIT, email echarles1234@aol.com with your comments.
Thank you
March 24, 2007 6:59 AM
please SIGN THE PETITION said...
SIGN THE PETITION
Add your name and/or comments to this thread. If you want to go BACK TO THE PIT click on "COMMENTS" below and write in the space provided. To sign up for a Google account, is completely free, or you can comment using the other options.
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March 24, 2007 7:07 AM
To Sue Cleveland said...
To Sue Cleveland,
You are going to get sued or have an injunction brought against you.
What comes around will go around.
Honestly, you are a much better person than this BIG mess.
Here is your time to shine and stop this terrible ordeal.
You have not heard the end of this.
Comment after comment show you never let parents, guardians, seniors, families provide input or have a fair vote or poll.
You only let certain people call in and complain and accepted that along with the other driving force to have this in Rio Rancho.
There is NOTHING wrong with that as long as you let EVERYONE impacted state their case.
That has NOT happened yet.
Have a fair vote now or take it back to The PIT.
I am reading between the lines you are trying very hard to do the right thing and keep the graduation safe.
You are being pressured by someone or others that clearly have power over you.
Because what you are forcing and mandating on graduating seniors and their loved ones in WRONG!
We did the math you are not saving money concerning this matter.
Just by the way you are handling this mistake will not set well at all.
This huge push now by you and company to keep this in Rio Rancho at all costs confirms your error.
But, you are still falling way short concerning the BIG picture; this entire process was NOT FAIR!
You are ignoring that major problem.
Listen; just by you going back to The PIT will calm the crowd.
Sue Cleveland, do the right thing.
Kyle
March 24, 2007 7:29 AM
Anonymous said...
WE NEED ALL THE SUPPORT PLEASE REMEMBER TO COME OUT TO THE SANTA ANA STAR CENTER TO ON SUNDAY THE 25TH AT 1:00PM TO RALLY TOGETHER WE NEED YOU ALL THAT ARE WRITING IN THANKS
March 24, 2007 8:08 AM
koat-tv 2 newscasts: said...
UPDATE:
SEE BOTH NEWSCASTS BELOW:
KOAT is interested in updating THEIR story on the fight to have the graduation ceremonies moved back to the Pit. "ANYONE" interested in doing an interview. Please write back with contact information or call.
Cary J. Schwanitz
505-884-6324
Email cschwanitz@hearst.com if you want your views to be heard by KOAT.
News Coverage
KOAT-TV had excellent coverage of the Rio Rancho graduation moving from its original venue at The Pit. There's a short commercial right before the main story.
FIRST STORY:
www.koat.com/video/11177714/index.html?taf=alb
SECOND STORY:
http://www.koat.com/video/11334805/index.html?taf=alb
March 24, 2007 8:12 AM
Albuquerque Tribune said...
Please email and call Stephanie:
She did a GREAT STORY below:
(Note: The Parentheses comments() along with her story are from one of our Blog contributors, [thank you])
HI, this is Stephanie from the Albuquerque Tribune. I'd like to speak to someone about this. My number is 823-3609.
Thanks,
Stephanie Garcia Krenrich
sgarciakrenrich@abqtrib.com
Stephanie Garcia Krenrich said...
GRADUATION SITE SWITCH IRKS RIO RANCHO PARENTS
By Stephanie Garcia Krenrich Friday, March 23, 2007
This year, Rio Rancho High School's graduating seniors won't have to drive miles to The Pit, and instead can walk the aisle in a new arena in their own hometown.
(17-18 miles to The Pit on a new freeway with entry and exits N, S, E and W on 3-4 lane roads. For the center you have to drive through Rio Rancho to get to a 2 lane highway, with ONLY 1 way in and 1 way out of the venue, and no way to turnaround! This is easily a 15-minute drive for residents IN Rio Rancho depending what part of the city you live in and the time estimate is with ONLY minimal traffic! Traffic on May 19 will be packed!)
Sound good? Well, not to everyone.
For some of the nearly 700 graduates and their families, the decision to hold commencement exercises at the Santa Ana Star Center instead of The Pit has one big problem.
The new place isn't big enough.
"I ordered 40 invitations," said Tony Maez, whose son will graduate from Rio Rancho High School during the May 19 ceremony. "I'm a divorced parent. My ex-wife has her family. Things like this they should have considered. Now I'm telling my relatives to wait and see what happens."
The Santa Ana Star Center, which opened in November, will hold 5,500 of the graduates' family and friends,
(They originally said 4,500, then they said a little over 5,000, VonAncken is trying to say over 6,000, it will be closer to 5,000)
while the The Pit held 11,000 for the ceremony last year, said Bill Duncan, Rio Rancho High activities director.
(It was closer to 14,000, they had to open a closed section last year. It was a biggest crowd compared to all the other APS graduations in 06. 07 has a bigger class)
The limited space has prompted a collection of angry parents to air their opposition publicly. Some even formed a BLOG to express their distaste over the move.
"The decision should have been made before rather than after families have begun planning," a parent wrote on the blog, at http://www.rioranchogradsunite.blogspot.com/
Kim Vesely, spokeswoman for Rio Rancho Public Schools, said the change was made so students can have graduation in their hometown.
"For many years we've had many inquiries about holding graduation in Rio Rancho," she said. "With the opening of the Santa Ana Star Center, we were able to do it."
Because of the smaller number of seats available, the district will allow graduates a limited number of guests, Duncan said.
Originally, six tickets were to be issued to each graduate this year. That has since been increased to eight tickets each, said Rio Rancho High Principal Richard VonAncken.
The district will make 600 extra tickets available to students, which will be distributed two at a time, starting in early May until they're gone, VonAncken said.
(Those 600 tickets are at the high school and will be televised, this is not at the center)
The ceremony will be also televised on Channel 15, Rio Rancho's public access channel.
Graduation has been held at The Pit for at least the last five years, Duncan said. Before that, the ceremony was at the University of New Mexico's Johnson Gym.
The school district originally set this year's graduation at The Pit on May 19 at 4 p.m. That changed when officials realized the same graduation date and time would be available at the Santa Ana Star Center, Duncan said.
People who oppose the facility change say they weren't involved in the decision-making process.
"It is apparent there was not enough public deliberation about this issue," one parent wrote on the blog. "A decision affecting the entire school population should have been discussed publicly so that all voices were heard prior to the decision."
Although the decision was made at the school level by the principal and the staff, parents were notified immediately in a letter, Vesely said.
(Only 2 months notice)
The change will force families to adjust, Vesely said, but it will have some advantages.
"The graduating class is now so big that students couldn't sit on the gym floor at The Pit," Vesely said. "The (Santa Ana) center has a bigger floor. Students will be able to sit together, and it's a better facility for handicap access."
(They put over a 1,000 graduates on The Pit floor before for some of the past APS schools, it can be done)
Maez says he doesn't oppose the new facility or the fact that school officials want to have the ceremony in their hometown.
But he believes parents should have been informed earlier.
"This is a big step for a kid that is graduating," Maez said. "They want their family to be there."
March 24, 2007 8:22 AM
yadaughter said...
I AM A SENIOR THIS YEAR AND I REALLY THINK HOW THEY MOVED GRADUATION WITHOUT INFORMING US BEFORE WE BOUGHT OUR ANNOUNCEMENTS WAS VERY WRONG. THEY SHOULD HAVE LET US KNOW SOONER SO WE COULD HAVE TOLD OUR FAMILIES THAT ARE OUT OF TOWN TO JUST STAY HOME. THE SCHOOL ALWAYS CRIES AND COMPLAINS WHEN WE DONT FOLLOW THERE RULES WELL LOOK WHO IS NOT FOLLOWING THEM NOW! WHY SHOULD WE FOLLOW RULES IF THEY AINT EVEN GONNA FOLLOW THEM ITS JUST NOT FAIR. IT ALSO MEANS SO MUCH TOO MANY OF US SENIORS TO HAVE OUR FAMILY AND FRIENDS TO WATCH US GRADUATE. THEY ARE SAYING THEY CAN WATCH IT ON TV ITS NOT THE SAME. WE WANT SUPPORT NOT JUST FROM OUR PARENTS WE WANT IT FROM EVERYONE.IT IS A BIG ACCOMPLISHMENT IN OUR LIVES AND WE WANT TO SHOW OUR FAMILIES AND FRIENDS THAT WE DID IT AND HOW PROUD OF US THEY ARE. HOW ARE WE GONNA GET SUPPORT IF THEY ARE AT HOME?YOU WANT THEM TO SIT ON THE COUCH AND YELL FROM HOME? OW YEAH REAL GOOD WE WILL HEAR THEM CHEERING FOR US...THATS NOT RIGHT...I AM RELLY GLAD THAT MY MOM IS DOING EVERYTHING TO SHOW THE PRESIDENT OF THE SCHOOL BOARD THAT SHE DOES NOT HAVE THE POWER TO THINK FOR US OR DO WHAT SHE WANTS JUST SHE IS THE "PRESIDENT" HOW BIG DEAL AND I AM A SENIOR SO WHAT? IT NEEDS TO GET MOVED BACK TO THE PIT!!!WE OWN THE PIT THANKS TO OUR BOYS BASKETBALL SO NOW WHY CANT WE GRADUATE THERE? PLEASE EVERYONE BE THERE ON SUNDAY AT 1:00 TO HELP SUPPORT ME AND MY MOM AND SHOW THE SCHOOL BOARD THAT THEY NEED TO INVOLVE US TOO NOT JUST THEMSELVES.
March 24, 2007 8:25 AM
tomorrow SUNDAY 25TH AT 1:00PM said...
WE NEED ALL YOUR SUPPORT PLEASE
REMEMBER TO COME OUT TO THE SANTA ANA STAR CENTER TO ON SUNDAY THE 25TH AT 1:00PM
THAT IS TOMORROW!
TO RALLY TOGETHER WE NEED YOU ALL THAT ARE WRITING IN
THANKS
March 24, 2007 8:26 AM
senior said...
I have worked my butt off in high school and my ENTIRE family has supported me in these twelve hard years of work and this is how you repay the class of 2007?
It's not my fault you're only giving me six tickets, oh, maybe eight?
Since RRPS is so good at making my decisions for me than maybe you can help me evaluate how I am going to divide up my tickets among my family and loved ones?
We were not asked for or allowed to give you our thoughts.
March 24, 2007 9:06 AM
the "skinny" said...
The Santa Ana Casino are "Corporate Partners" with the Santa Ana Star Center.
Who would you rather have benefit? The Casino? or the University of New Mexico?
What percentage of RRPS has attended UNM?
What percentage of RRPS 2007 will attended UNM?
Thank you for the "skinny"
http://www.santaanastarcenter.com/corporate_
partners.php
March 24, 2007 9:17 AM
CONFLICT OF INTEREST said...
just read this said...
CONFLICT OF INTEREST:
I read both of these comments that have already been posted here, does anyone know?
Just wondering... said...
Does anyone know if the people who made the decision to move the graduation to the Santa Ana Star Center have a financial interest in the Star Center or the casino or in any of the Center's corporate partners? Wouldn't that constitute a conflict of interest?
AND
Homestar Runner & red rabbit said...
By the way, if you click on this link, you will see the list of corporate partners of The Santa Ana Star Center:
Santa Ana Star Casino
The Rio Rancho Observer
99.3 KOB FM
770 KKOB
Mew Mexico's CW
Perfection Honda
JohnnyBoards LLC
First Community Bank
Qwest
Crystal Springs
O'Hare's Grille & Pub / Hot Tamales
Rio Rancho Printing
Connie
March 24, 2007 9:22 AM
annabelle said...
I support returning the graduation to The Pit.
March 24, 2007 9:34 AM
CALL YVETTE 994-9648 today please said...
CALL YVETTE: 994-9648
EMAIL YVETTE: nanee_angel@yahoo.com
Hello everyone that would like the graduation to return to THE PIT.
We need your help Yvette has arranged for someone from the news channel to come out on Sunday the 25th to the Santa Ana Star Center at 1:00 pm to come and talk to all parents and those who would like to voice their say in this.
IT IS NOT TO LATE, DON'T GIVE UP.
Please contact Yvette at 994-9648 to help her get names and #’s to support our voices.
We need to network with everyone and present our concerns to the board and administration.
We need to show strength in numbers.
We need your help Yvette has arranged for someone from the news channel to come out on Sunday the 25th to the Santa Ana Star Center at 1:00 pm to come and talk to all parents and those who would like to voice their say in this.
PLEASE EVERYONE, PLEASE come out and help support our request to GO BACK TO THE PIT!.
Lets show the board and administration they can’t just bully us.
WE NEED TO SHOW THAT WE WANT THE PIT BACK.
Please call Yvette for more info 994-9648 thanks for all your support.
REMEMBER WE HAVE TO WORK TOGETHER.
DON'T GIVE UP THERE IS A LOT MORE FAMILIES AND PEOPLE THAT WANT IT AT THE PIT!
THE PIT WILL HOLD UP 15 TO 16,000 PEOPLE.
THAT MEANS OVER 10 TO 11,000 PEOPLE WON’T BE ABLE TO GO.
GO BACK TO THE PIT!!
Thank you,
Yvette
March 24, 2007 9:37 AM
Lenora said...
I understand the chaos of organizing a high school graduation and inevitably someone is going to be less than happy about the result. But to callously disregard the plans and wishes of multiple family members goes beyond any kind of administrative SNAFU.
Gradution ceremonies are ultimately about the achievements of the students and an opportunity for loved ones to celebrate those achievements. For Rio Rancho to dismiss the concerns and outrage of family members is to disregard the spirit of the ceremony.
Isn't obvious? Do the right thing.
March 24, 2007 9:42 AM
do wah ditto.... said...
ditto to this HUGE SNAFU!!!
I understand the chaos of organizing a high school graduation and inevitably someone is going to be less than happy about the result. But to callously disregard the plans and wishes of multiple family members goes beyond any kind of administrative SNAFU.
Graduation ceremonies are ultimately about the achievements of the students and an opportunity for loved ones to celebrate those achievements. For Rio Rancho to dismiss the concerns and outrage of family members is to disregard the spirit of the ceremony.
Isn't obvious? Do the right thing.
March 24, 2007 10:42 AM
aggie said...
I support returning the graduation to The Pit.
March 24, 2007 11:09 AM
we agree said...
We support returning the graduation to The Pit.
Tom
March 24, 2007 11:16 AM
Manny said...
GREAT comments!!
We agree,
don't do us wrong RRPS.
March 24, 2007 11:20 AM
AMERICANS said...
RRPS
We are
AMERICANS
not
ameri-can'ts
“To the Graduating Class of Seniors 2007”
After 12-13 years of working towards graduating, we hoped you have learned.
We hoped you have learned to discriminate and impose your will on others.
Especially, don't use anything we taught you about "Democracy", rather, “do as I say, not as I do” is a much more advantageous edict.
All I am saying is
R U AN AMERI-CAN
OR
AN AMERI-CAN'T?
That is all I am asking.
Ethan
March 24, 2007 11:45 AM
back to the pit said...
BACK TO THE PIT!
it is that simple......
Jennifer
March 24, 2007 12:56 PM
CALL YVETTE 994-9648 today please said...
CALL YVETTE: 994-9648
EMAIL YVETTE: nanee_angel@yahoo.com
Hello everyone that would like the graduation to return to THE PIT.
We need your help Yvette has arranged for someone from the news channel to come out on Sunday the 25th to the Santa Ana Star Center at 1:00 pm to come and talk to all parents and those who would like to voice their say in this.
IT IS NOT TO LATE, DON'T GIVE UP.
Please contact Yvette at 994-9648 to help her get names and #’s to support our voices.
We need to network with everyone and present our concerns to the board and administration.
We need to show strength in numbers.
We need your help Yvette has arranged for someone from the news channel to come out on Sunday the 25th to the Santa Ana Star Center at 1:00 pm to come and talk to all parents and those who would like to voice their say in this.
PLEASE EVERYONE, PLEASE come out and help support our request to GO BACK TO THE PIT!.
Lets show the board and administration they can’t just bully us.
WE NEED TO SHOW THAT WE WANT THE PIT BACK.
Please call Yvette for more info 994-9648 thanks for all your support.
REMEMBER WE HAVE TO WORK TOGETHER.
DON'T GIVE UP THERE IS A LOT MORE FAMILIES AND PEOPLE THAT WANT IT AT THE PIT!
THE PIT WILL HOLD UP 15 TO 16,000 PEOPLE.
THAT MEANS OVER 10 TO 11,000 PEOPLE WON’T BE ABLE TO GO.
GO BACK TO THE PIT!!
Thank you,
Yvette
March 24, 2007 1:53 PM
back to the pit said...
we as parents and graduates need to unite as one and let the board and school know that we will not stand for this. this blog is great and let each other now what is happening but is the superintendent reading all of this we need to call off the wall and request a emergency board meeting an take off of work or what ever we need to do. But it is going to take a lot more than just a few parents to do this. lets continue to let the so called higher ups know that they cant keep doing what they are doing. They talk about bullies in school and it won’t be tolerated but who is doing the bullying WE WONT STAND FOR IT come on every one lets do something
March 24, 2007 2:06 PM
gene said...
Hello Bloggers,
Some very informative stuff here. Things I did not even consider. We all agree to go Back to The Pit. It really concerns me what blatant disregard they have for everyone. That is not the Sue Cleveland I know. Someone with some real juice is misleading her. What is that actual breakdown culturally of this graduating class? How is it that they have no concern with the adversity they have caused to so many? Surely, the school has had diversity and sensitivity training? Don’t give up, as someone already wrote, keep this going. Because their decision is way out of line. Bad, Bad, Bad! Sad to say politics, power and money are involved, no one can be that stupid. Can they?
Where is Bill Richardson?
Not that he is my choice for anything,
But he sure can mediate.
Gene
March 24, 2007 5:55 PM
rod said...
We want our family and loved ones to see my daughter graduate and 6 tickets won’t be enough.
Rio Rancho schools needs to re-think their decision!
Return to the PIT!
Or allow parents and seniors to vote.
Rodney
March 24, 2007 6:55 PM
denny said...
THANKS FOR THE BLOG SPOT.THIS IS A GIGANTIC MISTAKE AFFECTING OUR CHILDREN OUR FAMILIES OUR FRIENDS
Denny
March 24, 2007 8:30 PM
It’s just ridiculous. said...
Why would they (whoever they are) change the plans without the students/parents opinion?
It is all about the seniors, or else they wouldn’t be holding a graduation ceremony.
And to only be able to invite 6 people to graduation??
What if there are families with more than six people?
Wow how nice of you guys to not allow someone’s entire family to attend.
Good job.
No wonder no body likes Rio Rancho, its ran by a bunch of idiots.
The school doesn’t even let students know what’s going on, seems like they have no idea what they are doing.
Everybody is angry, because of the fact that they changed it after everybody out of state has made plans, and now a majority of them wont even be able to attend because the graduates can only invite 6 people.
It’s just ridiculous.
And why did I pay 100 and somewhat dollars for invitations for graduation when I can't even send them out, because you can't use them to get in the graduation?
RR school board sucks.
March 24, 2007 8:38 PM
“BACK TO THE PIT” said...
Tear up the contract!
“BACK TO THE PIT”
Dr. Cleveland we want this graduation at THE PIT, thank you.
Nick
March 24, 2007 8:45 PM
Tony said...
To whom it may concern,
I didn’t appreciate Gary Herron’s remarks on the Observer article
about the High School graduation being relocated.
"Come on, parents of graduating seniors of 2007. Get used to the
idea that the ceremony is going to be held at the Santa Ana Star”.
The idea is being shoved down our throats even by the Observer’s editor. The school board shouldn’t have changed the location two months prior to graduation and after we all had ordered our graduation invitations. All our graduation invitations state the graduation is being held at the University Arena “The Pit”. Is the school board going to reimburse us for all the invitations we couldn’t use? The simple solution to this mess the school board created is just hold the graduation at the Pit like we were told in the first place and let the graduates of next year hold theirs Santa Ana Star Center. Now the school board wants to televise the graduation one Cable One Network … A lot of parents including myself have Dish Network which will not broadcast the graduation. I have never heard people being limited access to a high school graduation …. Only in Rio Rancho .. The City of Vision … Tony Maez
March 24, 2007 9:41 PM
RE: The Observer newspaper said...
RE: The Observer newspaper
Check this out,
according to the Santa Ana Website, the OBSERVER are "Corporate Partners", with BOTH the casino and the center, have you noticed they have yet to do an actual news report on a Parent that is upset with the graduation, Both the Journal and Tribune interviewed Parents, right, then how come our own newspaper has not interviewed anyone?
List of "Corporate Partners" of The Santa Ana Star Center:
SANTA ANA STAR CASINO
THE RIO RANCHO OBSERVER
99.3 KOB FM
770 KKOB
Mew Mexico's CW
Perfection Honda
JohnnyBoards LLC
First Community Bank
Qwest
Crystal Springs
O'Hare's Grille & Pub / Hot Tamales
Rio Rancho Printing
AND
Does anyone know if the people who made the decision to move the graduation to the Santa Ana Star Center have a financial interest in the Star Center or the casino or in any of the Center's corporate partners? Wouldn't that constitute a conflict of interest?
March 24, 2007 9:48 PM
my comment said...
Ok I support going to the Pit
Wanda
March 24, 2007 10:06 PM
H said...
I am a senior at Rio Rancho high school, I would like to have the graduation moved back to University Arena, The Pit.
Take our graduation back to the PIT
H
March 24, 2007 10:09 PM
Anonymous said...
I'm not going to any gambling dens and neither is anyone else in my family. As far as I'm concerned, they can mail my son's diploma to him.
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March 24, 2007 10:23 PM
retired reporter said...
I'm not sure the district or anyone is going to take us seriously: how do you figure that the decision about graduation is an item for the governor to mediate? We might have a prayer if our issue affected the entire state. It doesn't, it is a local issue. This decision may be unpopular, but it is nowhere near a violation of our democratic privilege. And, appealing to media entities ensures that we'll get plenty of attention, but it won't solve anything: remember that their business is to sell newspapers and air time. We're boosting their sales, and their ratings, and that's about all. This isn't helping!
March 24, 2007 10:24 PM
echarles1234@aol.com said...
If you are against the move to return to THE PIT, email echarles1234@aol.com with your comments.
Thank you
March 24, 2007 10:25 PM
Matches Malone said...
And echarles1234@aol.com will be doing what to see that those comments actually see the light of day?
March 24, 2007 10:27 PM
Matches Malone said...
Matches Malone
email echarles1234@aol.com
March 24, 2007 10:29 PM
Matches Malone said...
See...I thought "somebody" wanted a VOTE. As long as the only votes counted are... *hey* Wait-a-minute. You're a republican, aren't you?
March 24, 2007 10:31 PM
retired reporter said...
retired reporter
what would help?
March 24, 2007 10:31 PM
Sad said...
This really is about the students, and it's most important that they graduate, right? My grad is the first in my family to graduate, and I'll be there at the Center, or there at the Pit. I think we're pretty spoiled. Kids in some countries don't get a chance like this, much less a choice.
March 24, 2007 10:32 PM
amen said...
Sad said...
This really is about the students, and it's most important that they graduate, right? My grad is the first in my family to graduate, and I'll be there at the Center, or there at the Pit. I think we're pretty spoiled. Kids in some countries don't get a chance like this, much less a choice.
March 24, 2007 10:34 PM
retired reporter said...
Has anyone tried to write a letter or have a reasonable conversation with either the Superintendent or the Board? Or did "we" just run straight to the news hounds? I apologize that I don't know the answer, I'm just now learning of it. I don't think a petition will be useful at all.
March 24, 2007 10:35 PM
Matches Malone said...
E-mail? Nah...the choice words I've got for you will go much better in person (I can play the no transcript game, too.)
See ya' tommorrow at 1:00.
March 24, 2007 10:40 PM
retired reporter said...
Retired Reporter,
if you have the time go ahead and read some of the comments people have approached the avenues you mention what else would you suggest?
March 24, 2007 10:40 PM
Oh no you didn't said...
This isn't good: accusing the district or any media of "financial interest" will close more doors than it will open. Because these companies are represented as "corporate partners" doesn't mean they have financial interest in graduation. Retired reporter is right - this stuff isn't helpful.
March 24, 2007 10:42 PM
matches malone said...
Matches Malone
What do you mean?
E-mail? Nah...the choice words I've got for you will go much better in person (I can play the no transcript game, too.)
See ya' tommorrow at 1:00.
March 24, 2007 10:46 PM
Oh no you didn't said...
Oh no you didn't,
What do you suggest?
I just read that blog,
it reads like it is in the form of a question.
Oh no you didn't said...
This isn't good: accusing the district or any media of "financial interest" will close more doors than it will open. Because these companies are represented as "corporate partners" doesn't mean they have financial interest in graduation. Retired reporter is right - this stuff isn't helpful.
March 24, 2007 10:49 PM
both retired r & oh no you didn't said...
To both retired r & oh no you didn't,
What would you both suggest?
March 24, 2007 10:51 PM
retired reporter said...
retired reporter II,
I'm not sure where to start reading. There is enough misinformation in this blog that I'm a bit perplexed. Who has done what, and how? Do you know?
I do know that involving media entities typically creates the proverbial mountain out of a molehill, when the molehill might have been easily squashed with the right-sized shovel. I think we make an effort to solve it at the source, because involving media tends to p**s off our opponent, they stop listening and we get nowhere. At this point, they have the power: they made the decision and we are being forced to live with it. What is the incentive for them to change their minds? Because we're noisy? Too much work to listen to noise.
March 24, 2007 10:51 PM
retired reporter said...
And, "they" aren't reading the blog, too much work and they aren't invested.
March 24, 2007 10:54 PM
theorist said...
retired reporter:
You're right, they aren't reading the blog, aren't listening and don't care. Now what?
March 24, 2007 10:58 PM
both retired r & oh no you didn't said...
both retired r & oh no you didn't
please take your time and email me any of your thoughts in detail echarles1234@aol.com thank you i don't know if you both are together or not? but take your time and email me what you think i like the way you processed the molehill thinking and time investment
March 24, 2007 11:02 PM
retired, oh no, and theo u all said...
u 3 r
March 24, 2007 11:05 PM
matches malone said...
i'll see ya' all at 1
March 24, 2007 11:07 PM
nate king cole can sing said said...
go back to the pit and thats it
March 24, 2007 11:10 PM
not so fast said...
I strongly suggest we just let bygones be bygones and go back to the Pit.
What you think?
March 24, 2007 11:15 PM
matches malone said...
i'll see ya' all at 1
is everyone gone already?
March 24, 2007 11:17 PM
retired reporter said...
1) I suggest that you prepare your case, and make an attempt at a calm, sincere plea. Does anyone have a relationship with the superintendent, or someone at the district or board level, or as a last resort, our local newspaper? (I once met the publisher, she seems like a reasonable person, very commmunity centric). The key here is to involve someone willing to listen, whether or not he/she is sympathetic is immaterial - you just need to get someone's ear. 2) Bring a suggested resolution forward, and be prepared to compromise. For instance, you might suggest that those grads with last names A through K hit the Center at an earlier time than those with last names L through Z. It isn't exactly the relocation we're going for, but it allows more people to attend - not all bad. For now, I'm going to kiss my grad and go to bed.
March 24, 2007 11:17 PM
thinking outside the box said...
retired reporter said...
1) I suggest that you prepare your case, and make an attempt at a calm, sincere plea. Does anyone have a relationship with the superintendent, or someone at the district or board level, or as a last resort, our local newspaper? (I once met the publisher, she seems like a reasonable person, very commmunity centric). The key here is to involve someone willing to listen, whether or not he/she is sympathetic is immaterial - you just need to get someone's ear. 2) Bring a suggested resolution forward, and be prepared to compromise. For instance, you might suggest that those grads with last names A through K hit the Center at an earlier time than those with last names L through Z. It isn't exactly the relocation we're going for, but it allows more people to attend - not all bad. For now, I'm going to kiss my grad and go to bed.
March 24, 2007 11:21 PM
matches malone said...
is everyone gone already?
March 24, 2007 11:23 PM
retired reporter said...
echarles - Thanks for asking, I saw your note after my last post. For now, this is my best suggestion, but I'm sure there are other solutions. Maybe my thoughts will spawn some others.
March 24, 2007 11:23 PM
CALL YVETTE 994-9648 today please said...
CALL YVETTE: 994-9648
EMAIL YVETTE: nanee_angel@yahoo.com
Hello everyone that would like the graduation to return to THE PIT.
We need your help Yvette has arranged for someone from the news channel to come out on Sunday the 25th to the Santa Ana Star Center at 1:00 pm to come and talk to all parents and those who would like to voice their say in this.
IT IS NOT TO LATE, DON'T GIVE UP.
Please contact Yvette at 994-9648 to help her get names and #’s to support our voices.
We need to network with everyone and present our concerns to the board and administration.
We need to show strength in numbers.
We need your help Yvette has arranged for someone from the news channel to come out on Sunday the 25th to the Santa Ana Star Center at 1:00 pm to come and talk to all parents and those who would like to voice their say in this.
PLEASE EVERYONE, PLEASE come out and help support our request to GO BACK TO THE PIT!.
Lets show the board and administration they can’t just bully us.
WE NEED TO SHOW THAT WE WANT THE PIT BACK.
Please call Yvette for more info 994-9648 thanks for all your support.
REMEMBER WE HAVE TO WORK TOGETHER.
DON'T GIVE UP THERE IS A LOT MORE FAMILIES AND PEOPLE THAT WANT IT AT THE PIT!
THE PIT WILL HOLD UP 15 TO 16,000 PEOPLE.
THAT MEANS OVER 10 TO 11,000 PEOPLE WON’T BE ABLE TO GO.
GO BACK TO THE PIT!!
Thank you,
Yvette
March 24, 2007 11:32 PM
to retired reporter said...
To Retired Reporter
email me tomorrow we can exchange more easily there thanks echarles1234@aol.com
March 24, 2007 11:38 PM
u 2 matches malone said...
echarles1234@aol.com
March 24, 2007 11:39 PM
the beatles said...
"simple words of wisdom....Let It Be....."
(at the Pit)
March 25, 2007 12:04 AM
to matches malone said...
To Matches Malone
regarding your comments please take your time and go point by point I would really like to hear all of your comments if you would like to quote the point and then respond to it that would be helpful then we can read exactly what your commenting on may I suggest you pick out 50 or more points that way we will cover a lot of ground at one time you can even be as expound on anything you like
we welcome your comments we really do
we too are looking forward to seeing you at 1
sincerely interested
echarles1234@aol.com
March 25, 2007 12:18 AM
re: gary herron said...
Please do tell, what can you tell me about him?
Ray
March 25, 2007 12:21 AM
RE: dr. sue cleveland said...
RE: Dr. Sue Cleveland
Please do tell, what can you tell me about her?
Ray
March 25, 2007 12:23 AM
RE: The Administration said...
RE: The Administration
Please do tell, what can you tell me about them?
Ray
March 25, 2007 12:24 AM
RE: School Board and President said...
RE: School Board and President
Please do tell, what can you tell me about them?
Ray
March 25, 2007 12:24 AM
PLEASE SIGN THE PETITION said...
SIGN THE PETITION
Add your name and/or comments to this thread. If you want to go BACK TO THE PIT click on "COMMENTS" below and write in the space provided. To sign up for a Google account, is completely free, or you can comment using the other options.
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March 25, 2007 12:27 AM
THE BEATLES said...
"GET BACK...GET BACK....GET BACK TO WHERE ONCE BELONG
GET BACK JO JO"
(there are talking about the PIT!
March 25, 2007 12:31 AM
please add my name said...
Please add my name to the Blog, thanks
Perry
March 25, 2007 12:35 AM
Richard White said...
I spoke in front of the school board at the March meeting outlining as many of the problems created by the decision to move the graduation to the Santa Ana Star Center that I could think of. Over the course of the week it was learned that it was not a school board idea, but an administrative decision made by the Superintendent, the Director of Activities and the Principal. We are now being told that it is a done deal because the contract is signed and the money paid. Well... to reserve the Pit, requires a contract and money paid also. They seem to have been able to get out of that one.
Isn't the Santa Ana Star Center owned by the City of Rio Rancho? The casino only paid for naming rights. The City can release the high school from the contract and return the money paid very easily.
I am really interested to know if the city government leaders put pressure on the Superintendent and Principal to move the graduation to the Center. The City government and the School board have known since the day the plans for the Center were finalized that it would not be big enough to hold graduation there, at least not while there was only one high school in Rio Rancho. It will be at least 4 years , after it opens, before Dr. Cleveland High School has a graduating class. By then it is projected that we will be right back to square one because both high schools will be vying for the title of 'Biggest High School in New Mexico' with graduating classes for each right back up to 600-700.
I am the parent of a Senior, and I am very disappointed in how this is being handled by the School board and people employed by the School district. Let's change it back to the PIT.
March 25, 2007 4:18 AM
"GET BACK" TO THE PIT said...
[sweet loretta thought she was a cleaner but she was a frying pan.]
Get back, get back.
Get back to where you once belonged
Get back, get back.
Get back to where you once belonged.
Get back Sue. go (to The Pit)
Get back, get back.
Back to where you once belonged
Get back, get back.
Back to where you once belonged.
Get back Sue.
[thanks, mo! ...on behalf of the group i hope we passed the audition.]
GEORGE
March 25, 2007 7:03 AM
RE: The Observer newspaper said...
To blog comments, I had already signed out and just read them. These are questions, if you or anyone knows I am very interested in knowing? So now what do you suggest would be helpful? I really am not interested in closing any doors. Thank you .
RE: The Observer newspaper
Check this out,
According to the Santa Ana Website, the OBSERVER are "Corporate Partners", with BOTH the casino and the center, have you noticed they have yet to do an actual news report on a Parent that is upset with the graduation, Both the Journal and Tribune interviewed Parents, right, then how come our own newspaper has not interviewed anyone?
List of "Corporate Partners" of The Santa Ana Star Center:
SANTA ANA STAR CASINO
THE RIO RANCHO OBSERVER
99.3 KOB FM
770 KKOB
Mew Mexico's CW
Perfection Honda
JohnnyBoards LLC
First Community Bank
Qwest
Crystal Springs
O'Hare's Grille & Pub / Hot Tamales
Rio Rancho Printing
AND
Does anyone know if the people who made the decision to move the graduation to the Santa Ana Star Center have a financial interest in the Star Center or the casino or in any of the Center's corporate partners? Wouldn't that constitute a conflict of interest?
March 25, 2007 7:34 AM
06 Parent knows had said...
"YES the district should have come up with a variety of options and make them available to the public, obtain feedback and base the decision on that feedback in combination with sound financial decisions (as well as access, parking, etc.). YES the timing should have been better. YES the district has not given the public a voice. YES it should probably be moved back to the PIT for this year's graduation."
March 25, 2007 7:39 AM
ME TOO said...
Hello, I am interested in knowing too?
RE: Gary Herron
RE: Dr. Sue Cleveland
RE: The Administration
RE: School Board and President
What can you tell me about all of them?
Rick
March 25, 2007 7:51 AM
go back Sue Cleveland said...
Did you know when a person is elected to our school board; they have to swear an oath?
YES, THEY LITERALLY SWEAR TO UPHOLD BOTH THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES AS WELL AS THE CONSTITUTION OF THE HIGH SCHOOL!
I THINK THAT IS REALLY GREAT!
“We the people of the United States, in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America”
A blogger commented how this whole graduation change stepped on people’s rights.
The entire history of our government was to escape bad government, bad and unfair decisions, bad practices, bad leaders.
What really bothers me is our children are involved.
The event is an important chapter in their lives.
They are seeing first hand another history lesson.
Democracy did not play a part in this poorly planned change and that is why I am joining in on this push to address the graduation.
Even if this situation affected two people it is wrong.
After reading the newspaper and reading several emails this is affecting thousands.
I completely see why it was changed and there are those that support the change.
But when you consider how this was handled then you scratch your head and wonder how well paid, educated people forgot the opening lines of THEIR Constitution, they forgot their history and at the expense of our children.
What also stands out and causes me to cringe is the very same people have charge over our children.
They will read these words and not understand what they did and what they are doing is wrong.
These same individuals will look in the mirror and say, "I'm ok".
Our children are our most precious part of our community and should not be taken for granted at any expense.
The contract is now the excuse they are so diligently clinging to and hiding behind in order to right their wrongs.
The Star Center should also know their history and let the school out of this contract.
It should have never been about the money it should have always been about the children, our children.
March 25, 2007 8:24 AM
WOW said...
There is a lot of wine, worry and song here.
Keep up the good work!
We support the petition
Shawn
March 25, 2007 8:31 AM
Takin it to the streets said...
You dont know me but Im your brother
I was raised here in this living hell
You dont know my kind in your world
Fairly soon the time will tell
You, telling me the things youre gonna do for me
I aint blind and I dont like what I think I see
Takin it to THE PIT
Takin it to THE PIT
Takin it to THE PIT
Takin it to THE PIT
Take this message to my brother
You will find him everywhere
Wherever people live together
Tired of being treated unfair
You, telling me the things youre gonna do for me
I aint blind and I dont like what I think I see
Takin it to THE PIT
Takin it to THE PIT
Takin it to THE PIT
Takin it to THE PIT
March 25, 2007 8:40 AM
TODAY CALL YVETTE 994-9648 today said...
CALL YVETTE: 994-9648
EMAIL YVETTE: nanee_angel@yahoo.com
Hello everyone that would like the graduation to return to THE PIT.
We need your help Yvette has arranged for someone from the news channel to come out on Sunday the 25th to the Santa Ana Star Center at 1:00 pm to come and talk to all parents and those who would like to voice their say in this.
IT IS NOT TO LATE, DON'T GIVE UP.
Please contact Yvette at 994-9648 to help her get names and #’s to support our voices.
We need to network with everyone and present our concerns to the board and administration.
We need to show strength in numbers.
We need your help Yvette has arranged for someone from the news channel to come out on Sunday the 25th to the Santa Ana Star Center at 1:00 pm to come and talk to all parents and those who would like to voice their say in this.
PLEASE EVERYONE, PLEASE come out and help support our request to GO BACK TO THE PIT!.
Lets show the board and administration they can’t just bully us.
WE NEED TO SHOW THAT WE WANT THE PIT BACK.
Please call Yvette for more info 994-9648 thanks for all your support.
REMEMBER WE HAVE TO WORK TOGETHER.
DON'T GIVE UP THERE IS A LOT MORE FAMILIES AND PEOPLE THAT WANT IT AT THE PIT!
THE PIT WILL HOLD UP 15 TO 16,000 PEOPLE.
THAT MEANS OVER 10 TO 11,000 PEOPLE WON’T BE ABLE TO GO.
GO BACK TO THE PIT!!
Thank you,
Yvette
March 25, 2007 8:43 AM
no contract said...
I'm not sure there ever was a reservation or contract at the Pit. At this time last year, parents were complaining that the Center was built with no consideration for graduation, i.e., it wasn't big enough. If there was no contract, there was nothing to get out of - you might check into it. Really, if you're going to accuse the Superintendent or the Administration, you'll have better luck if your information is factual - be sure. They won't listen or react to suspicion, it means nothing.
March 25, 2007 8:43 AM
tell me more said...
“parents were complaining that the Center was built with no consideration for graduation, i.e., it wasn't big enough”
March 25, 2007 8:49 AM
Rosalia said...
I have a question for those who are against this petition:
How is a decision to return the graduation to The Pit adversely affecting you?
March 25, 2007 8:49 AM
matches malone said...
i'll see ya' all at 1
March 25, 2007 8:51 AM
Rosalia, again said...
...continued
Sorry, I realize this forum is reserved for people who are in favor of moving the graduation back to The Pit. But I can't, for the life of me, figure out why it would cause undo stress to anyone if the graduation were held at The Pit, where it has been held for several years now.
March 25, 2007 8:54 AM
retired reporter said...
Since the City owns the Center, it has a reason to keep graduation here. So, how does it benefit the governing body to put pressure on the Superintendent or the Administration? It doesn't. It isn't in their best interest. If you want anyone to listen to you, you need to present some benefit in moving graduation back to the Pit. Think: how does moving back to the Pit benefit benefit the Administration, the Governing Body, or anyone outside this group of families? If you can answer this question, you have something to talk to the administration about. Until then, you're just making noise, and noise is meaningless. If the answer is, "We'll stop making noise and go away", they think "So what?" They aren't listening to you anyway. I don't know the answer, but I think you need to find it if you want to be successful in your quest.
March 25, 2007 8:55 AM
ooker said...
This kinda’ reminds of a poker game I was in,
And the “deck was stacked” this is worse they’re holding all the cards and never dealt them out
March 25, 2007 9:01 AM
retired reporter said...
Tell me more: I'm paraphrasing, but I remember "Rants" in the Observer newspaper from parents with words to this effect, i.e., "what were they thinking" in building a Center not large enough to accommodate graduates. I suspect that the Administration may be thinking they were doing the "right" thing. I need to do a bit more research on the archived specifics, my retention isn't what it once was.
So, my thought is that a calm, rational direct approach may go a bit further than a noisy one. It does appear that this case has been presented (see Mr. White's blog). If the Administration didn't respond in the manner you hoped, chances are that they won't, but it seems working WITH them to attempt a solution might be more productive.
If the issue is that everyone wants to attend but there isn't enough space, then perhaps you might suggest that the space be used so that everyone can attend. If a solution exists that works, then a move "back" to the Pit wouldn't be necessary. Take a page from the Center: if a concert sells out for one night, they add an extra night to accommodate more attendees.
And, to answer how the decision impacts me, I'm not sure I'm necessarily for or against the move. I do know that it impacts all of us in different ways and for many reasons, and I may be a bit too focused on the bigger pictur: keeping our gross receipts tax monies here instead of sending it to ABQ helps our city government to pay for things we all want: sidewalks, parks, improvements, street lights, paved streets, etc. I realize this doesn't make us feel better about the short-term, but it does help us all in the long-term - we don't want to pay higher property taxes for such things, right? If we keep our gross receipts money here, we help to defray some of these costs.
Okay, enough space devoted to my rambling.
March 25, 2007 9:22 AM
History Lesson said...
Some of the questions being raised here are too far out in left field (conspiracy theories, etc.) to even begin to answer. There are, however, a couple of them that I actually do know the answer to.
1st - RRPS did not have to break a contract with the pit. After last year's fiasco, it was never reserved or contracted for. The complaints and nasty letters from parents were more than loud enough to make this seem like a minor dust-up.
2nd - No...the city did not put pressure on the district to have the graduation ceremony here in Rio Rancho. It was parents. The district received complaints from parents about the pit every year the graduation was held there. Those complaints reached a crescendo last year.
While the comments here all seem to be accusing the school system of not listening to parents' concerns, we are actually all in this boat precisely because the district DID listen to and respond to parents.
March 25, 2007 9:22 AM
UNM Pit. said...
I agree with the petition and would like to vote to go back to the UNM Pit.
Jeannie
March 25, 2007 9:56 AM
Oh brother said...
So the administration moved the graduation because they are afraid of being booed? Well, that just ices the cake.
I don't need my Magic 8-ball to tell me that they will be booed at this year's graduation.
Dear Mr. VonAncken,
If that many people are booing you, maybe you should look in the mirror.
love,
a concerned party
March 25, 2007 10:09 AM
History Lesson said...
HELLO,
Thanks, what else could you let us know about this?
March 25, 2007 10:43 AM
yaragon said...
this is Yvette again and I want to thank all the parents,graduates and comunity that showed up to the news conferance at the santa ana areana which was held today at 1 with action 7 news we had a pretty good outcome about 26 total came out the news talked to some of us and we were able to let them know what we thought about this very poor decision that was made to move graduation to the sana ana I dont know if anyone had a chace to read the rio rancho observer and the tribune but these articles are stating that we get riled up for nothing and what are we teaching our children to be against the board if you get a chance get these papers and read then call those papers and see if they will write your comment about what they put about what we are doing what they are failing to do is realize the importance of why we are doing this because we have taught our children values and they do have the right to speak and have their voice heard I will update other information as we get it we have started a petition and if you would like to sign it please call me and I will met you to get it signed my number again is 994-9648 any other ideas let me know for we need to let them know that we are not making noise this is a very important issue to our graduates as well as all their support
March 25, 2007 2:00 PM
toby said...
I am adding to this blog to support the return to the Pit. I agree with the points of view listed here. Especially that this decision was unfair.
Thank you.
March 25, 2007 3:23 PM
Gary, please pass the popcorn said...
I read some of the comments here and will read all of them as I get the time to do so. I also read some of today’s news comments.
Gary, Mike and Genie and anonymous persons that all spoke their minds, I’d like to thank you.
There are some of us that would like to respectfully ask the administration to reconsider and some of us that are more vocal and some of us that have our “facts” wrong, and some of us that are like some of you, anonymous.
Be advised, ALL of us are very aware now of where you stand and I for one appreciate that you pointed out any misinformation.
However, one thing you ALL fail to do is address each concern on it’s own merit and then as a whole.
You target only certain ones, why is that?
Hear me out, we’ve heard your logic and the administration’s logic, somehow “we didn’t get a vote. Let’s not worry about it” does not, well, make sense!
That is a very critical part of this decision.
Perhaps an important question to each of you is should this matter have gone to some form of input/poll/vote? I’d like to know your answer.
And I’d like to know the answer from the seniors, parents and guardians that this affected.
Gary, regarding your comment about a vote, I’m sure we could come up with something.
“Let me play devil’s advocate” too, all anyone would ask is that it is fair process.
Hear me out; have a vote of some sort, just to make sure we ALL got this decision right.
You all really wrote some things that were fine and I concur with.
But you also wrote some things that made me realize you don’t get the big picture nor the little one either.
Please accept my apologies if we agree to disagree but that is how you see it and that is how I see it.
I’m not in your shoes and you are not in mine.
Gary, you actually wrote 10 year olds and under “should have stayed home”?
I don’t want to have my figures wrong or did you mean, 9 year olds and under “should have stayed home”?
I hope your foot is not that big?
I hope your quote gets passed around to every mother and father across this country.
May I respectfully ask you, who are you to discriminate against age?
(Perhaps I should count my blessing you don’t have S. Cleveland, R. Von Ancken and B. Duncan’s position)
I wonder now Gary, were you part of the think tank to get the decision through? Just asking.
“For weeks”, you ask, it has gone on “for weeks” because this decision adversely affects people.
It will continue to go on for weeks, “Batch up some popcorn” and save some room on the “couch” for Mike, Genie and "your extended posse".
“Gripes, whining, greedy”, please, “Get Over It”
Lucy
March 25, 2007 5:13 PM
Bravo said...
I agree with the petition.
Especially that this decision was unfair.
Thank you. Fran
March 25, 2007 5:33 PM
before any contracts said...
Note:
RRPS received my comment at the very beginning when this all started - and before any contracts were signed!
The decision to move the 2007 graduation was handled improperly and was the wrong decision. Parents should have been surveyed prior to the decision. Please let me know who was responsible for this decision. The current class sizes are too large to try to graduate anywhere smaller than the Pit. My wife and I have 5 children, one of which graduates this year. My parents, who have already bought airline tickets from Ohio, my wife's parent's and a couple sisters plan to attend just like the past two years. Who do I get to leave home with my allotment of six tickets? I know there will be many other people in the same situation. Do you really expect people to return their six tickets? The only chance I have of letting my family share the occasion is to find some friend who isn't using all of their tickets. I highly recommend you reconsider the decision and keep the Pit location while you still can.
March 25, 2007 5:35 PM
yaragon said...
Attention: Seniors, Parents, Guardians, Families, Relatives, Students and concerned persons
We are a group of families that would like to have the Class of 2007 Graduation returned to "The PIT."
At minimum, let’s put this matter to a fair vote.
We are respectfully asking Dr. Sue Cleveland to make the decision to return to "The PIT."
RRPS has broken contracts before and can break this contract now and go "BACK TO THE PIT."
We need all persons that want the Graduation to be returned to "The PIT" to let your voice be heard.
In an unprecedented administrative decision, input was NOT allowed, requested or regarded by everyone affected. Only certain voices were heard.
This last minute decision affected more than 10,000 people.
We have heard all the reasons and explanations given by the administration and strongly feel they do not outweigh the fact that a fair process did not occur in the first place concerning this matter.
Please go online now. We have every right to be heard. "It’s not over till it’s over." BACK TO the Pit
FAMILY AND friends of Rio Rancho High School graduates DISCUSSION GROUP
March 25, 2007 5:36 PM
TO: History Lesson said...
HELLO HS,
I checked back in to see if you responded.
Thanks, what else could you let us know about this?
March 25, 2007 5:38 PM
Monte said...
This is not right.
Count us in.
March 25, 2007 5:42 PM
graduate of 2007 said...
so who gives them the right to say were we are going to graduate? we are graduating now not them they had there chance to graduate already. my mom has really supported me in trying to change it to the pit and i am really thank full to her for that, what we seniors really need to do is get together and show them that we do have a say in what we want for graduation why do they get one and we dont? is it cause they are part of the school board it still doesnt give them the right to do that. if they dont change it they are going to have an even bigger problem with the families that dont get in. the traffic is going to be really bad and if you think about it they dont have enough parking for everyone because every or almost every senior has a car and will be driving to graduation. you know they arent gonna let us park in front of the arena you know they will probably be saving that for the staff. i dont think that is fair either why do they get reserved parkin we are the graduates not them we should be able to park closer to the enterance at the arena. we need all the support we can get to get it changed back to the pit. OUR OPINIONS DO MATTER AND WE WANT THE PIT. MAY 19TH SHOULDNT BE A DAY OF DISAPPOINTMENT FOR US GRADUATES IT SHOULD BE A TIME TO CELEBRATE.
March 25, 2007 6:19 PM
Anonymous said...
Uncle a said
Going back to the Pit is a great idea. For many students this is there only claim to fame. Relatives would like to attend the ceremony and the Pit can hold more people who obviously would like to attend. Having a graduation with limited seating is archaic and so bourgeois. Step up to the plate and give family a chance to celebate this momentous occasion. Many have to travel great distances. Do you remember how they treated Mary and Joseph, there was no room at the inn. Don't do the same to the greates class of Rio Rancho's history, the class of 2007.
March 25, 2007 6:19 PM
common sense said...
This e-mail is regarding the Common Sense article written in the Rio Rancho Journal.
Being a student at Rio Rancho High School and waking up to read this article from you both, Mike and Genie Ryan, made me think of what common sense you both must have in writing this article.
Whether or not you grew up in big families that fully supported you through your life, you clearly don’t understand the gripe those of us with big families are having because of the ticket limit.
I do think it is a great idea to hold graduation in my wonderful hometown, but it’s a shame that all of the people I want there may not get to go.
Is it really my fault that I have a large immediate family?
Should I as a senior really have to pick which family members should go with the extra tickets I have dug up by myself.
Also, uniforms were voted on when I was in fifth grade and we were just supposed to be “trying them out;” so maybe that was the outrage over that.
Are you saying people can’t speak up if they don’t agree with the way you think?
Because that is how it sounds.
Also, regarding parents voicing opinions on test scores, drop out rates, and curriculum; this point in your article has nothing to do with the students that are graduating and shouldn’t even be mentioned because those parents that are outraged have kids that obviously didn’t drop out and had good test scores.
Personally I believe Rio Rancho’s curriculum is great.
Furthermore, your other huge point that has nothing to do with the GRADUATING SENIORS is parents caring about what their children are learning.
The seniors that are graduating have already learned, hence the reason for a graduation ceremony.
Your are right though that parents need to be involved and I’m glad mine are in trying to somehow make my very large, supportive family attend my graduation.
Also, don’t assume these “griping” parents don’t care about what their children are learning because you have no right to and it has nothing to do with why they are “griping” in the first place.
If you don’t see what the “big deal” is about me not having my family at my ceremony then you might as well suggest not having a ceremony at all, because you must not comprehend the point of what a graduation ceremony is.
You also state you don’t understand why parents wont let it go?
It’s because we still can’t have all of our family attend, DUH!
You’re right about making graduation special for the graduates, but what you don’t understand is part of making it special is having my whole family there which is why we’re still “griping”.
I hope you understand the hypocrisy of your article.
I do hope my parents take your advice and become involved and make my graduation even more special; and that is by continuing to challenge the change of venues.
Also you say this will be the first graduation in Rio Rancho, then you go to say Independence is.
I’m truly sorry of the hypocrisy and confusion of your article, the lack of common sense two human beings have in putting together this article, the Journals decision to hire two people who clearly state they just don’t understand what they are writing about; as you clearly mention in your article several times.
Sincerely I hope you’ll get some common sense, be able to understand your topic and just not worry about the vehemence, the passion of Rio Rancho’s families over this very important topic, better yet “Get Over It”.
2007 Senior
March 25, 2007 7:17 PM
Gary's World said...
Gary Herron is completely out of line with his philosophy regarding who can and who can’t attend graduations.
Please make sure you send this out to everyone in your email address book, every Blog space, every "my space" location, hey, even share it with strangers you pass on the street.
I just read this in the newspaper and then a comment about it here on the Blog.
I don’t want to say anything mean spirited here but this needs to be passed on.
Also, run down the article in the Observer’s 3/25/07 Sunday issue and read all of it.
Part of BLOG COMMENT:
Gary, you actually wrote 10 year olds and under “should have stayed home”?
I don’t want to have my figures wrong or did you mean, 9 year olds and under “should have stayed home”?
I hope your foot is not that big?
I hope your quote gets passed around to every mother and father across this country.
May I respectfully ask you, who are you to discriminate against age?
(Perhaps I should count my blessing you don’t have S. Cleveland, R. Von Ancken and B. Duncan’s position)
I wonder now Gary, were you part of the think tank to get the decision through? Just asking.
March 25, 2007 7:42 PM
chuck said...
Congratulations to everyone that has commented on the Web Log. It is truly empowering to see individuals and families come together like this. We would like to go back to the Pit.
Chuck
March 25, 2007 8:26 PM
Jesus H. Christ said...
Still hoping to get tickets for 12 of my closest friends and advisors. I think Mom and Dad are more than willing to sacrifice their seats, but Lazarus is my wing man, and I cannot leave him to the elements.
Remember, when I said what you do unto the least of these, you do unto Me? And remember when I said suffer the little children to come unto Me? I was talking to you, Gary.
Don't make Me come down there!
March 25, 2007 8:51 PM
R U smarter than a 5th grader? said...
Every 5th grader knows that it's rude to invite some of your family, and leave some of your family out.
It's all well and good to say, "Don't invite your whole family." But what if they all send you $20 on your birthday? And, duh! they are going to know which ones you chose to save tickets for.
Who needs that kind of grief?
March 25, 2007 9:18 PM
yaragon said...
This is Yvette again and I want to thank all the parents, graduates, and community that showed up to the news conference at the Santa Ana Center, which was held today at 1 with Action 7 News.
We had a pretty good outcome--about 26 total came out. The news talked to some of us and we were able to let them know what we thought about this very poor decision that was made to move graduation to the Santa Ana Center.
I don’t know if anyone had a chance to read the Rio Rancho Observer and the Journal/Rio Rancho section, but these articles are stating that we “get riled up for nothing” and “why are we teaching our children to be against the board?”
If you get a chance, get these papers and read them. Then call those papers and see if they will write your comment about what they put about what we are doing. What they are failing to do is realize the importance of why we are doing this. We have taught our children values and they DO have the right to speak and have their voices heard.
I will update other information as we get it.
We have started a petition and if you would like to sign it, please call me and I will meet you to get it signed. My number again is 994-9648. Any other ideas? Let me know, because we need to let them know that WE ARE NOT JUST MAKING NOISE. This is a very important issue to our graduates as well as all of us involved, we are their support.
March 25, 2007 9:19 PM
R U smarter than a 5th grader? said...
I'm just saying, if you are smarter than a 5th grader, like me, you will sign this petition to GO BACK TO THE PIT!!!
March 25, 2007 9:22 PM
Way to go common sense: said...
Way to go common sense:
I think you should try out for Mike and Genie Ryan's job.
I realize the got u by 55 years in age, but the Journal needs new blood anywho.
They obviously don't know what they are writing about.
Wonder if they graduated?
fellow Senior 2007
March 25, 2007 9:23 PM
r u smarter then a 5TH grader? said...
Gary Herron
Dr. Sue Cleveland
The Administration
School Board and President
March 25, 2007 9:25 PM
the gambler said...
This kinda’ reminds of a poker game I was in,
And the “deck was stacked”
this is worse
they’re holding all the cards
and never dealt them out
March 25, 2007 9:30 PM
Matches Malone said...
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March 25, 2007 10:13 PM
To Matches Malone said...
To Matches Malone
regarding your comments please take your time and go point by point I would really like to hear all of your comments if you would like to quote the point and then respond to it that would be helpful then we can read exactly what your commenting on may I suggest you pick out 50 or more points that way we will cover a lot of ground at one time you can even be as expound on anything you like
we welcome your comments we really do
we too are looking forward to seeing you at 1
sincerely interested
echarles1234@aol.com
March 25, 2007 10:14 PM
"greedy" Seniors said...
Being a senior is very stressful because of everything we have to get done through the year and down the stretch and for me the graduation change makes my senior year a MILLION TIMES more stressful.
Now I don’t get to have ALL of my loved ones see me graduate. Thanks for ruining one of the most important events of my life.
I am sorry we are a very close family.
I was really looking forward to graduation when I saw my cousins (with our ENTIRE family) graduate last year at the PIT from West Mesa and Eldorado, but now I'm not because not even half of them will be there.
What a great way to show your appreciation to one of the largest graduating classes.
The newspaper read, that I was being "greedy"?
Maybe the Star center should let us out of the contract.
Who now is being greedy?
March 25, 2007 10:22 PM
Doreen said...
Families and graduates have been discriminated against,
(along with anyone under the age of 10 years old per Gary Herron)
Not everyone was allowed to have a voice in this decision.
Only those visionaries that always wanted it here in RR.
Only those that "griped, whined and were "greedy" the very loudest.
This deal was highly one sided.
Go back to the Pit.
Doreen
March 25, 2007 10:34 PM
gary herron said...
Per your article you referred to yourself as the "devil's advocate", re: the vote. This idea was submitted along time ago and can be fine tuned Gary, what do you think?
"An editor and the administration all referred to the “many” that wanted this, what is the problem with putting this to a vote, right now?
You will all find out the actual “many” want this event at “The Pit”.
Our Seniors will have to revert back to their grade school days, you print up what 750 notes home with 2 boxes to check on the note - “The Pit” or no “Pit”, parents and guardians along with each Senior will vote.
Unlike the decree that has been imposed upon everyone, where only a certain “many” voices were heard and acted on, simply, that decision that act in itself is so wrong and so very unfair, this is America right? (The school board is supposed to uphold the Constitution of the United States, just ask them).
Make sure you number each one of these notes that way they can be counted fairly.
Add a few lines so the Graduate and their Parent/Guardian can print and sign.
If you have a better idea, wonderful as long as the vote process is fair.
If the vote comes back no “Pit”, then the editor, the administration and the so called “many” had a finger on the pulse and IF the vote comes back “The Pit” then Hallelujah! Times a wastin’!"
March 26, 2007 8:12 AM
Gary, please pass the popcorn said...
I read some of the comments here and will read all of them as I get the time to do so. I also read some of today’s news comments.
Gary, Mike and Genie and anonymous persons that all spoke their minds, I’d like to thank you.
There are some of us that would like to respectfully ask the administration to reconsider and some of us that are more vocal and some of us that have our “facts” wrong, and some of us that are like some of you, anonymous.
Be advised, ALL of us are very aware now of where you stand and I for one appreciate that you pointed out any misinformation.
However, one thing you ALL fail to do is address each concern on it’s own merit and then as a whole.
You target only certain ones, why is that?
Hear me out, we’ve heard your logic and the administration’s logic, somehow “we didn’t get a vote. Let’s not worry about it” does not, well, make sense!
That is a very critical part of this decision.
Perhaps an important question to each of you is should this matter have gone to some form of input/poll/vote? I’d like to know your answer.
And I’d like to know the answer from the seniors, parents and guardians that this affected.
Gary, Mike and Genie and anonymous:
Regarding your comment about a vote, I’m sure we could come up with something.
“Let me play devil’s advocate” too, all anyone would ask is that it is fair process.
Hear me out; have a vote of some sort, just to make sure we ALL got this decision right.
You all really wrote some things that were fine and I concur with.
But you also wrote some things that made me realize you don’t get the big picture nor the little one either.
Please accept my apologies if we agree to disagree but that is how you see it and that is how I see it.
I’m not in your shoes and you are not in mine.
Gary, you actually wrote 10 year olds and under “should have stayed home”?
I don’t want to have my figures wrong or did you mean, 9 year olds and under “should have stayed home”?
I hope your foot is not that big?
I hope your quote gets passed around to every mother and father across this country.
May I respectfully ask you, who are you to discriminate against age?
Who are you to tell ANYONE who goes and who stays?
(Perhaps I should count my blessing you don’t have S. Cleveland, R. Von Ancken and B. Duncan’s position)
I wonder now Gary, were you part of the think tank to get the decision through that changed this from The Pit? Just asking.
“For weeks”, you ask, it has gone on “for weeks” because this decision adversely affects people.
It will continue to go on for weeks, “Batch up some popcorn” and save some room on the “couch” for Mike, Genie and "your extended posse".
“Gripes, whining, greedy”, please, “Get Over It”
Lucy
March 26, 2007 8:26 AM
Gary's World said...
Gary Herron is completely out of line with his philosophy regarding who can and who can’t attend graduations.
Please make sure you send this out to everyone in your email address book, every Blog space, every "my space" location, hey, even share it with strangers you pass on the street.
I just read this in the newspaper and then a comment about it here on the Blog.
I don’t want to say anything mean spirited here but this needs to be passed on.
Also, run down the article in the Observer’s 3/25/07 Sunday issue and read all of it.
Part of BLOG COMMENT:
Gary, you actually wrote 10 year olds and under “should have stayed home”?
I don’t want to have my figures wrong or did you mean, 9 year olds and under “should have stayed home”?
I hope your foot is not that big?
I hope your quote gets passed around to every mother and father across this country.
May I respectfully ask you, who are you to discriminate against age?
Who are you to tell ANYONE who goes and who stays?
(Perhaps I should count my blessing you don’t have S. Cleveland, R. Von Ancken and B. Duncan’s position)
I wonder now Gary, were you part of the think tank to get the decision through that changed this from The Pit? Just asking.
March 26, 2007 8:31 AM
G. Herron said...
"stupid is as stupid does"
F. Gump
March 26, 2007 8:33 AM
Senior said...
I like that the venue is closer to home, but I would rather have my entire family and grandparents and relatives see my special day.
They are the people that helped me get there!
It’s despicable that the administration did this at the last minute and without anyone’s consent.
March 26, 2007 8:37 AM
RRPS said...
You don't want a vote because:
"YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH"!!!!!!!!!
Jack
March 26, 2007 8:41 AM
Gary Herron, Mike & Genie Ryan & anon said...
Gary Herron, Mike and Genie Ryan and anonymous declared in the newspaper that:
The Graduating Class of 2007 and their families - “Gripe, whine, and are greedy”
Last I checked this is America, obviously something is wrong in the city of vision if just one or two or 70000 people for that matter want to raise their concerns.
No matter how trivial you think it is.
You are doing your best to condemn, censor, insult and discriminate anyone that does not think like you!
I have a brother fighting for our country right now, serving proudly. He helped secure elections so people could vote and helped remove a person in power that punished ANYONE that did not think like him!
You are so worried who did or did not have their facts right, you don’t even understand why we are asking for this matter to be properly addressed. We know the reasons and we want this addressed.
NEWS FLASH: This matter was NEVER voted on and people have every right to question, challenge and complain about anything they don’t agree with!
I am only eighteen years old but I can see as clear as day just from the tone of your stories and rhetoric you have no compassion for persons that don’t think like you:
You went on to belittle a person not quite as knowledgeable as you regarding the district process.
You went on to dictate who could or could not attend a graduation based on age.
You went on to dismiss there was no vote allowed just like the tyrant we just removed felt about the importance of elections in his country.
You went on to condemn anyone that dare have a large family or in need of extra tickets.
You went on to let us know how annoyed you were because this has “continued for weeks” but for the life of you, could not understand why it has? You confirmed how much out of the loop you are because you actually had to ask why it is “so important that the gripes (not concerns you wrote ‘gripes’) have continued”? Just by the fact this has continued should raise a red flag with you that something is wrong. Why don’t you get all the facts, the real facts then you will have the answer.
You gloated you would only have 4 in your group at the graduation and you SPECIFICALLY referenced our “posse”.
Spell this anonymous, “r-a-c-i-s-m”
pos·se (pŏs'ē) n.
1. A group of people summoned by a sheriff to aid in law enforcement.
2. A search party.
3. Slang A gang involved in crimes such as running guns and illegal narcotics trafficking.
4. Slang A Street and hip hop music term for gang members.
You sure as heck were not referring to 1 and 2 or “the get-along gang”.
Where you too afraid to use the word(s) you really wanted to use?
You completely insulted grandparents, brothers, sisters, loved ones, anyone that had to travel and relegated them to a couch with popcorn and soda.
You mocked us with “ticket scalpers”, “Psst, buddy, who needs 4 tickets”
You automatically lumped all of us into a group that fails to vote or support our schools or only when it suits us. Wouldn’t that be “pre-judging” us?
You wrote that we “gripe, get over it”
You wrote that we “whined”
You wrote that we are “greedy”
You wrote the we “shocked and embarrassed you”
Then in your supreme all knowing wisdom you topped it off with a large quote telling all parents how to raise their children!
Is it possible that it is you that is “greedy”, it is you that are “griping”, it is you that “whine”, it is you that are prejudice, and that this is really all about YOU?
I have learned more about our school, our leaders, people, right and wrong, the news media, prejudice, my family and life just in the last two weeks compared to all my years in high school.
2007 Senior
March 26, 2007 11:50 AM
Dr., answer our questions said...
“What we have here is failure to communicate”
This is what I would like to see, Dr. Cleveland respond to each of these comments. We would need someone to combine each concern and question because some of them overlap one another. Then however many there is let her respond. How come she has not given an in-depth interview? I believe she knows this is wrong, I’ve always heard she is a good person. Then how come she is not letting any parents talk to her? They are using buffers with VonAncken, Duncan, and Vesely. The newspaper rarely has her comments it is usually one of those three.
Again, have her answer the questions.
Gerry
March 26, 2007 12:41 PM
Great comment said...
Great comment
“What we have here is failure to communicate”
This has been said over and over again. I think because we are short on time we need to put this to a fair vote. No hanky panky. The school board is not going to back us, if they were they already would have. They are all stalling just by the fact they have not allowed a vote by anyone formally. They know their decision would lose in a fair vote. This has power play written all over it. Everyone is pointing fingers but they are not budging. Even the Rio Rancho media is supporting the bad decision and criticizing any little comment that is made.
Keep passing the word along The Pit is still available. All that nonsense with TV feed is garbage and it confirms they messed up. The Rio Rancho media is NOW trying to say that The Pit is only going to hold 11,000, they are still over 60% short! 60% percent is still a lot of people that can’t be there and want to be there. I also think The Pit would hold more then 11,000 people the media has their figures wrong. Also, they said there are 4 ways to get to the Star Center, please draw me a map. You have to drive through Rio Rancho to get to a 2 lane road, and when you get there it is 1 way in and 1 way out. I know, I go to the hockey games.
Abe
March 26, 2007 1:15 PM
Gary Herron, Mike & Genie Ryan & anon said...
Gary Herron, Mike and Genie Ryan and anonymous......
Whoa nelly, I just read your story and saw the pictures they have for you on file that they use for your story line.
Here you all go:
Don't Worry, Be Happy
Here is a little song I wrote
You might want to sing it note for note
Don't worry be happy
In every life we have some trouble
When you worry you make it double
Don't worry, be happy......
Ain't got no place to lay your head
Somebody came and took your bed
Don't worry, be happy
The land lord say your rent is late
He may have to litigate
Don't worry, be happy
Look at me I am happy
Don't worry, be happy
Here I give you my phone number
When you worry call me
I make you happy
Don't worry, be happy
Ain't got no cash, ain't got no style
Ain't got not girl to make you smile
But don't worry be happy
Cause when you worry
Your face will frown
And that will bring everybody down
So don't worry, be happy (now).....
There is this little song I wrote
I hope you learn it note for note
Like good little children
Don't worry, be happy
Listen to what I say
In your life expect some trouble
But when you worry
You make it double
Don't worry, be happy......
Don't worry don't do it, be happy
Put a smile on your face
Don't bring everybody down like this
Don't worry, it will soon past
Whatever it is
Don't worry, be happy.............
Bobby
March 26, 2007 3:13 PM
770 Graduates said...
KOAT-TV in their 5PM newscast on 3/26, just announced 770 seniors will graduate.
RRPS originally stated 700.
We were advised 750.
Now today they are stating 770.
We heard the year started with over 930 seniors and some thought at least 800 would be graduating.
If anyone else hears anything different please update this web log.
Rudy
March 26, 2007 4:30 PM
770 Graduates said...
Hey....
That newscast also said Sue Cleveland in a phone conversation said no to the Pit.
We need to meet with the good Doctor
Pass it on.
Jim
March 26, 2007 4:39 PM
Luis said...
I agree to return to the Pit
March 26, 2007 8:16 PM
Alley said...
We want our family to attend the graduation and 8 tickets will not be enough!
Rio Rancho admin needs to reconsider their decision!
March 26, 2007 8:56 PM
Barb said...
“BACK TO THE PIT”
RRPS we want this graduation at THE PIT, thank you.
March 26, 2007 9:01 PM
The Pit said...
For the "good of the order" we are asking that the graduation is returned to it's original location
John
March 26, 2007 9:03 PM
Patrick said...
Regarding your current strategy to increase attendance by opening the PAC at the high school and having a TV feed. Seriously, this reactive move actually confirms you are aware that you made a poor decision. What about the extended family members from out of state that have already booked plane tickets? You’re telling the parents sorry pick and choose your favorite and who cares if feelings are hurt. That is awfully callous of you! The graduation should be moved back to The Pit so every family member that want to be there can attend!
March 26, 2007 9:11 PM
Candy said...
RRPS moved the graduation.
You never asked me?
You only let certain people contact you and let you know what they wanted.
Then you did what they wanted.
And what you wanted.
But you never asked me.
Or actually anyone I know.
March 26, 2007 9:17 PM
Joseph said...
We support returning the graduation to The Pit.
March 26, 2007 9:20 PM
Koat-TV Newscast said...
KOAT-TV coverage - Rio Rancho graduation moving from its original venue at The Pit. There's a short commercial right before the main story.
FIRST STORY:
www.koat.com/video/11177714/index.html?taf=alb
SECOND STORY:
http://www.koat.com/video/11334805/index.html?taf=alb
THIRD STORY:
www.koat.com/video/11390851/index.html?taf=alb
March 26, 2007 9:41 PM
Rhonda said...
BACK TO THE PIT
March 26, 2007 9:42 PM
Yes said...
We support the return of the 2007 graduation
Reece
March 26, 2007 9:45 PM
M said...
Yes lets go back
Marcus
March 26, 2007 9:45 PM
Carol said...
We agree with the petition
Carol
March 26, 2007 9:45 PM
Nicky said...
go back to the Pit
March 26, 2007 9:47 PM
Martha said...
Next year or when you open the new school not this year
March 26, 2007 9:48 PM
Vince said...
Too bad RR, you shoulda stayed at the Pit. Break the contract
March 26, 2007 9:49 PM
Chel said...
We agree with this PETITION to return the our graduation back to the PIT.
March 26, 2007 9:52 PM
Gus said...
yes to Pit
March 26, 2007 10:43 PM
Dawn said...
OK to the petition
March 26, 2007 10:45 PM
Tess said...
vote yes to The Pit
March 26, 2007 10:45 PM
Ural said...
GO RAMS GO PIT
March 26, 2007 10:47 PM
GO RAMS said...
"RIO RANCHO BASKETBALL TEAM YOU JUST ROCKED THE “PIT”,
YOU JUST WON YOUR FIRST STATE CHAMPIONSHIP;
MR. DUNCAN ENCOURAGED YOU AND ALL STUDENTS
TO “SHOW THEM WE OWN THE ‘PIT’!!
….AND YOU DID!!
WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO NOW?
“WE’RE GOING TO DISNEY LAN….WAIT….NO…..
WE WANT TO GO BACK TO THE “PIT” FOR OUR GRADUATION, WE OWN IT NOW!!
DID YOU SEE HOW MANY FANS WE HAD THERE?!
IT WAS GREAT-GO RAMS!!!"
March 27, 2007 6:44 AM
red rabbit said...
According to KOAT, the Santa Ana Star Center is now going to make skyboxes available for graduation. How are they going to determine who gets the skyboxes? Discuss.
March 27, 2007 8:46 AM
sky box said...
That is news to me, if I hear anything I will share the info.
Tina
March 27, 2007 10:04 AM
Desi said...
WE support the petition 100%
March 27, 2007 10:09 AM
Call Yvette 994-9648 said...
We have started a Hard Copy paper PETITION and if you would like to sign it, please call me and I will meet you to get it signed.
My number again is 994-9648.
Any other ideas?
Let me know, because we need to let them know that WE ARE NOT JUST "MAKING NOISE"
WE all know this is a very important issue to our graduates as well as all of us involved.
We need to continue to show our support.
March 27, 2007 10:15 AM
Anna said...
2007 - Largest Graduating Class in the entire state and in our school’s history.
GO RAMS GO BACK TO THE PIT
March 27, 2007 12:12 PM
Rob said...
I agree:
It is not what you know it is who you know. It is not what you did RRPS it is how you did it.
We are in full support of the return to The Pit.
"Lets not let this one get by us lads or it will be hell to pay"
March 27, 2007 12:21 PM
Dr. Cleveland said...
I would like to thank all of the persons that took the time and energy to allow this Website to be available to the many that were not asked.
Dr. Cleveland, shame on you. Neither you or anyone on your staff has apologized for this decision.
Scott
March 27, 2007 1:35 PM
Dr. Sue Cleveland said...
In the winter of 99 I had a wonderful conversation with a young lady that was passionate about helping children-students-families. What was most remarkable was she was dedicated to the task.
Sadly now I see and read about that same young lady embroiled in a controversial change. So we don’t agree on where to hold graduation that I can live with. It is the HOW that is being carried out and at any cost to keep it in Rio Rancho that causes me distress.
Dr. Susan Cleveland, take a look back 7-8 years when your heart was in the right place. We all know it can be changed. They are going to get your business sometime in the future anyway.
Change this back or put it to a vote.
Sincerely,
Thomas
March 27, 2007 1:47 PM
PIT still open on 5/19 said...
Hello everyone,
I spoke to THE PIT, yes! They still have May 19TH open! They will not schedule anything on that day.
Cost for THE PIT = $7,800.00
Cost for the Center = $6,200.00
A seat at the Center costs more then a seat at THE PIT.
How about that!
M
March 27, 2007 3:45 PM
PIT still open on 5/19 said...
This GREAT news tell everyone that this is far from over.
Sid
Hello everyone,
I spoke to THE PIT, yes! They still have May 19TH open! They will not schedule anything on that day.
Cost for THE PIT = $7,800.00
Cost for the Center = $6,200.00
A seat at the Center costs more then a seat at THE PIT.
How about that!
M
March 27, 2007 3:59 PM
Dr. Sue Cleveland said...
CHANGE IT BACK TO THE PIT!
I WANT MY FAMILY TO SEE ME GRADUATE!
March 27, 2007 4:02 PM
Dr. Cleveland said...
Concerned persons,
With the confirmed information that The Pit is still open for business on May 19TH, may we encourage everyone to NOT GIVE UP.
The decision was never fair and that is why we will not give up.
Contracts can be broken.
Tremendous stress is being placed on families.
After all is said and done the new venue is NOT cost effective as they tried to purport.
The newspaper comments on Sunday (3/25) do not have all the facts and have only fueled my fire.
Share this information with everyone you know.
Thank you,
Robert
March 27, 2007 4:45 PM
Dr. Cleveland said...
I am an 18-year-old graduating Senior. I believe I understand why the administration changed our graduation.
My question to you is do you understand what you did is wrong?
J
March 27, 2007 5:28 PM
Dr. Cleveland said...
I would like to suggest when you all open the other high school then at that time you can have your graduation in Rio Rancho. It is obvious that no matter what anyone says to you still refuse to admit you are wrong. You have yet to apologies to the families you have affected. You are hiding and stalling time. RRHS will continue to have the most seniors graduating year in and year out. Who is in charge of keeping count? Please if I know that how is it the ones responsible for this somehow forgot this important information? That is why a new school is needed in the first place right? We fully support that you return the graduation to the pit. Dr. Cleveland we are not trying to be disrespectful to you. However we are very upset that you are willing to continue down this path “through Rio Rancho to a 2 lane road with only 1 way in and 1 way out”, poor parking, too small, etc.
Blake
March 27, 2007 6:53 PM
Joe said...
Keep this Petition going
March 27, 2007 6:55 PM
Megan said...
http://129.24.2.119/fbonline5/calendar.asp?filter=&month=5&day=19&year=2007&x=14&y=6
Please paste this info into your browser.
We can still return to “The Pit”.
March 27, 2007 7:04 PM
Fail to plan, plan to fail said...
What RRPS and staff did was WRONG!
No input
No vote
No say
No way
BACK TO THE PIT!
March 27, 2007 7:07 PM
Rex said...
Ditto to every COMMENT here
March 27, 2007 7:09 PM
Graduate of 2007 said...
I am a graduate of 2007. I dont think that they handled this change in a very good way. The way they changed it at the minute was so wrong. They are puttin more stress on us seniors because not only do we have to worry about our finals, thesis, and now we have to worry about who to pick from our families to attend our graduation. I think since the school board thinks for all of us they should tell each and everyone of us seniors who to pick in our family to come watch us graduate and who we should their feelings for not lettin them come watch us. We dont want to have to pick and choose who attends our graduation. We want to prove to our family that we did it and now we will be starting a new chapter in our lives. WE WANT IT AT THE PIT!!! Another thing from the paper on sunday 3/25/07 why dont they want to ask us what we think about this instead of writing stuff about us because we are expressing how we feel about the change its just wrong how our own rio rancho paper wont even try to come and ask us what we think they are suppose to be our paper but instead they are talking about us that are "griping" about the issue, its sad how albuquerque will support us and do stories for us but our own rio rancho paper wont.Shows how much rio rancho paper cares about there community, graduating seniors and there families. It makes rio rancho look really good. Thanks Everyone From Albuquerque For All Of The Support You Are Giving Us Graduating Seniors Of 2007!!!
March 27, 2007 7:11 PM
Anonymous said...
IDEA///AS CLASS OF 2007 AS A WHOLE WHY DONT WE RENT THE PIT. THERE WAS AN COMMENT TO CHARGE 1.00 PER PERSON FOR ENTRY AND ALL MONEYS GO TO THE PIT MAYBE WE CAN GET A DISCOUNT OF SOME SORT AND LETS LEAVE THE SCHOOL BOARD OUT OF THE GRADUATION. LETS SEE HOW THEY LIKE IT
March 27, 2007 7:18 PM
graduate of 2007 said...
That is a great idea but in order to do that we are going to need a lot of support. we cant just let the pit know and then on that day only a few of us show up. we have to make sure that everyone who wants it at the pit is going to show up at the pit on that day and is not going to back down.
March 27, 2007 7:31 PM
My Graduation 2007 said...
My Graduation 2007
Class Ring - $400 (In Albuquerque)
Announcements/Cap & Gown - $200 (In Albuquerque)
Invitations - $150 (In Albuquerque)
Graduation pictures - $400 (In Albuquerque)
8 family members flying in - $3,600
Graduation party - $2,000
Having my entire family who encouraged me
for 13 years celebrate with me at THE PIT – PRICELESS!!!
March 27, 2007 7:50 PM
Pay for The Pit said...
A parent suggested that we contact all the families that want it at The Pit and then tell the administration we would pay for it?
The Pit cost is $7,800
divided by
600 families
equals $13.00 each!
That is THIRTEEN dollars each!
Not much, huh?!
or 500 families
equals $15.60 each!
March 27, 2007 7:59 PM
good ideas said...
Good ideas by everyone!
Don't forget to tell everyone to contact this Blog Spot and to call Yvette - 994-9648
Gwen
March 27, 2007 8:02 PM
Don't Give UP! said...
Don't GIvE UP!
March 27, 2007 9:08 PM
GO BIG or STAY HOME said...
GO BIG or STAY HOME RRPS!
GO BACK TO THE PIT!
March 27, 2007 9:12 PM
Anonymous said...
IDEA// IF YOU TAKE 750 X 10. DEPENDING ON SIZE OF FAMILY TO ATTEND THATS NOT INCLUDING FRIENDS THAT COMES TO 7500.00 THATS PLENTY NOT TO BAD.
March 27, 2007 9:19 PM
Dr Sue Cleveland said...
I think this was already mentioned but it is very important for Dr. Cleveland to please consider this very important fact -
If they put it to a vote now right now, the Graduation would go back to “The Pit" please really think about this.
They are displacing over 10,000+ persons that would like to come!
Max
March 27, 2007 9:20 PM
770 Graduates said...
KOAT-TV in their 5PM newscast on 3/26, announced 770 seniors will graduate.
RRPS originally stated 700.
We were advised 750.
Now today they are stating 770.
We heard the year started with over 930 seniors and some thought at least 800 would be graduating.
If anyone else hears anything different please update this web log.
770x10 = $7,700.00
we can do it!!!
Rudy
March 27, 2007 9:24 PM
Dr. Sue Cleveland said...
SERIOUSLY…SIMPLY, WHAT PRICE DO YOU PLACE ON A CELEBRATION OF LOVE AND LIFE?!
THE COST THE SAVINGS THAT MRS. CLEVELAND AND MR. VONANCKEN ALLUDE TO ABSOLUTELY DO NOT OUT WEIGH WHAT WILL BE COMPLETELY LOST!
YES, EVEN TO ATTEMPT TO PLACE A PRICE ON THIS ENTIRE PROCESS, CELEBRATION AND EVENT IS INAPPROPRIATE BECAUSE IT IS TRULY “PRICELESS”!
TO ARGUE THIS IMPORTANT POINT IS IGNORANCE AND…..WELL….VERY WRONG.
Maggie
March 27, 2007 9:26 PM
Call Yvette 994-9648 said...
We have started a Hard Copy paper PETITION and if you would like to sign it, please call me and I will meet you to get it signed.
My number again is 994-9648.
Any other ideas?
Let me know, because we need to let them know that WE ARE NOT JUST "MAKING NOISE"
WE all know this is a very important issue to our graduates as well as all of us involved.
We need to continue to show our support.
March 27, 2007 9:27 PM
Anonymous said...
back to the pit back to the pit back to the pit
March 27, 2007 10:03 PM
Anonymous said...
THOMAS, YOU ARE RIGHT THE SANTA ANA STAR CENTER WILL RECIEVE THERE BUSINESS IN THE FUTURE ANYWAY. IM SORRY THE PERSON YOU NEW HAD A HEART MAYBE SOME DAY YOU WILL KNOW THAT PERSON AGAIN
March 27, 2007 10:09 PM
Anonymous said...
Families along with graduates have been discriminated against.
Not everyone was allowed to have a voice in this decision.
Dr. Cleveland has not apologized for disrupting the lives of the Class of 2007 and their loved ones.
She stated,
"We've heard more positive than negative. I do understand the concern people have about it,"
Obviously she failed to take everything into account and how this adversely impacts families.
Gary Herron a reporter for The Observer of Rio Rancho or any reporter from this newspaper has yet to interview anyone that disagrees with the decision.
He suggested in his editorial rant:
Anyone under the age of 10 should stay home and not be allowed to attend any graduation!
Not only are they discriminating against anyone with a large family they want to discriminate against your age!
Also, Herron thinks he scores points by alleging that holding an election would be too complicated and expensive. He writes: "Let me play devil's advocate here. How would you hold this election? One vote per parent of a senior? One vote per family? One vote per graduate? Only registered voters eligible? Online? Who pays for it?"
These are silly objections: A sufficient number of single-sheet paper ballots could be printed at little cost; the parents or legal guardians of graduates and the graduates themselves would be eligible to vote (easy enough to keep track of because the High School has a list of the graduates and their parents). The vote would take place at the High School on a pre-announced date. Volunteers would count the votes.
Simple as pie.
This guy is keeping the company line and wrote a lot of other horrible things.
This overall decision is highly one sided and they are forcing and expecting people to accept it because “they said so!”
Go back to the Pit.
Art
March 27, 2007 10:17 PM
Dr. Cleveland said...
OK, now that I know The Pit is still open for business I want to Go Back To The Pit
Laura
March 28, 2007 7:35 AM
Dr. Cleveland, I agree said...
“What we have here is failure to communicate”
This has been said over and over again. I think because we are short on time we need to put this to a fair vote. No hanky panky. The school board is not going to back us, if they were they already would have. They are all stalling just by the fact they have not allowed a vote by anyone formally. They know their decision would lose in a fair vote. This has power play written all over it. Everyone is pointing fingers but they are not budging. Even the Rio Rancho media is supporting the bad decision and criticizing any little comment that is made.
Keep passing the word along The Pit is still available. All that nonsense with TV feed is garbage and it confirms they messed up. The Rio Rancho media is NOW trying to say that The Pit is only going to hold 11,000, they are still over 60% short! 60% percent is still a lot of people that can’t be there and want to be there. I also think The Pit would hold more then 11,000 people the media has their figures wrong. Also, they said there are 4 ways to get to the Star Center, please draw me a map. You have to drive through Rio Rancho to get to a 2 lane road, and when you get there it is 1 way in and 1 way out. I know, I go to the hockey games.
Merle
March 28, 2007 7:38 AM
Dr. Cleveland, common sense said...
This e-mail is regarding the Common Sense article written in the Rio Rancho Journal.
Being a student at Rio Rancho High School and waking up to read this article from you both, Mike and Genie Ryan, made me think of what common sense you both must have in writing this article.
Whether or not you grew up in big families that fully supported you through your life, you clearly don’t understand the, as you put it, "gripe" those of us with big families are having because of the ticket limit.
I do think it is a great idea to hold graduation in my wonderful hometown, but it’s a shame that all of the people I want there may not get to go.
Is it really my fault that I have a large immediate family?
Should I as a senior really have to pick which family members should go with the extra tickets I have dug up by myself.
Also, uniforms were voted on when I was in fifth grade and we were just supposed to be “trying them out;” so maybe that was the outrage over that.
Are you saying people can’t speak up if they don’t agree with the way you think?
Because that is how it sounds.
Also, regarding parents voicing opinions on test scores, drop out rates, and curriculum; this point in your article has nothing to do with the students that are graduating and shouldn’t even be mentioned because those parents that are outraged have kids that obviously didn’t drop out and had good test scores.
Personally I believe Rio Rancho’s curriculum is great.
Furthermore, your other huge point that has nothing to do with the GRADUATING SENIORS is parents caring about what their children are learning.
The seniors that are graduating have already learned, hence the reason for a graduation ceremony.
Your are right though that parents need to be involved and I’m glad mine are in trying to somehow make my very large, supportive family attend my graduation.
Also, don’t assume these “griping” parents don’t care about what their children are learning because you have no right to and it has nothing to do with why they are “griping” in the first place.
If you don’t see what the “big deal” is about me not having my family at my ceremony then you might as well suggest not having a ceremony at all, because you must not comprehend the point of what a graduation ceremony is.
You also state you don’t understand why parents wont let it go?
It’s because we still can’t have all of our family attend, DUH!
You’re right about making graduation special for the graduates, but what you don’t understand is part of making it special is having my whole family there which is why we’re still “griping”.
I hope you understand the hypocrisy of your article.
I do hope my parents take your advice and become involved and make my graduation even more special; and that is by continuing to challenge the change of venues.
Also you say this will be the first graduation in Rio Rancho, then you go to say Independence is.
I’m truly sorry of the hypocrisy and confusion of your article, the lack of common sense two human beings have in putting together this article, the Journals decision to hire two people who clearly state they just don’t understand what they are writing about; as you clearly mention in your article several times.
Sincerely I hope you’ll get some common sense, be able to understand your topic and just not worry about the vehemence, the passion of Rio Rancho’s families over this very important topic, better yet “Get Over It”.
2007 Senior
March 28, 2007 7:46 AM
Dr. Cleveland said...
ditto to this HUGE SNAFU!!!
I understand the chaos of organizing a high school graduation and inevitably someone is going to be less than happy about the result. But to callously disregard the plans and wishes of multiple family members goes beyond any kind of administrative SNAFU.
Graduation ceremonies are ultimately about the achievements of the students and an opportunity for loved ones to celebrate those achievements. For Rio Rancho to dismiss the concerns and outrage of family members is to disregard the spirit of the ceremony.
Isn't obvious? Do the right thing.
March 28, 2007 7:58 AM
thanks malone said...
“Fail to Plan
Plan to Fail”
"We'll have to have cable."
"What are you doing for DISH subscribers?"
You are trying to put a band-aid on a severe wound
Thanks Malone
Aubry
March 28, 2007 8:18 AM
Doc let's PACK THE PIT! said...
Capacity of the Pit:
18,000 plus can fit.
A section is blocked off so now 12,000 can fit.
They had to open up that section for last year’s graduation for us because we had the largest Class, which meant more people.
The 2007 Class is even Bigger, which will mean more people.
The media and school started out saying that 690 Seniors would be graduating; NOW they are saying 770 Seniors are graduating.
That means their figures were off and there will be more people coming.
Do you realize the graduating Class WILL be even bigger as each year goes by?
The section can be opened up so 13,000, 15,000 or up to 18,000 people as needed.
IF YOU DON’T THINK THE NUMBERS ARE CORRECT, CALL THE PIT.
A local newspaper reporter (Gary Herron) is trying to say 11,000 would come BUT remember, he is basing it on what he thinks last years’ numbers were, but he his wrong. Then he suggests that 10 years old and under CANNOT attend the graduation! Can you believe that? He is WRONG on last years’ numbers because they had to open up the section that is closed off, so there were more then 11,000 people present, this means more will come this year along with anyone under the age of 10!
Rio Rancho year in and year out AVERAGES roughly 20 people per graduate. That is an average.
Whatever numbers you want to use the fact remains the same 11,000+ to 15,000+ people are being affected by this decision.
“Let me play the devil’s advocate”, WHAT IS WRONG WITH RIO RANCHO “PACKING THE PIT” FOR A GRADUATION?
We should be proud we did! Isn’t it true that Sue Cleveland and company, Gary Herron and Coach Brian Smith exhorted and hoped that we would “Pack The Pit” for all of basketball games?
Didn’t Mayor Jackson show his support and come out for the game; I think that is Great that he showed his support over a GAME?
QUOTING: Mayor Kevin Jackson said the development of the city's school district has given Rio Rancho a sense of identity.
"We didn't have that when I was growing up," said Jackson, who has lived in Rio Rancho since the 1960s and plans to attend tonight's championship. "There's an elevation in pride in how well the teams have done, not just in athletics, but in academic, student government and all the student-related programs."
QUOTING: "You saw the crowd tonight," Rio Rancho coach Brian Smith said after the Rams semifinal win Thursday night at The Pit. "There are 70,000 people in Rio Rancho. This place should be packed. Where is everybody?"
I think this was Great too showing support and networking with others!
QUOTING: Sarah Stevenson, a team manager, hung flyers around the sprawling Rio Rancho campus Thursday to promote the game.
"I saw a lot of people stopping to look at them and a lot of people asked me about the game," Stevenson said.
Her mother, who works at a local elementary school, told Stevenson that e-mails about Rams basketball have been flowing into her inbox. Gary did you do these interviews? No that was an Albuquerque Tribune reporter.
Consider then we want to “PACK THE PIT” for a sporting event, AND I DO TOO, why not “PACK THE PIT” for RRPS’s BIGGEST EVENT, their High School Graduation?!
I would hope our Mayor that showed that much enthusiasm for a “game” would show more for the WRONG being imposed on the Class of 2007.
I would hope Sue Cleveland and company, along with Gary Herron and other media that showed that much enthusiasm for a “game” would show more for the WRONG being imposed on the Class of 2007 especially our Seniors our children!
Weren’t we condemned and criticized in the news, in public for our emails and networking to get this situation changed?
Mayor Jackson, Sue Cleveland and company, Gary Herron, the Ryans and other media, which is more important a “game” or a graduation? I feel they are both important.
What about the fact that several thousands are affected men, women and children?
What about the fact an injustice has been dealt them?
What is wrong with anyone striving for:
“We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed, by their Creator, with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness”
“GO BACK TO THE PIT – PACK THE PIT” anyone under 10 are welcome too!
Lorenzo
March 28, 2007 10:12 AM
VOTE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! said...
VOTE!!!!!!!!
We WANT a vote for moving graduation back to The PIT since it is the only place that can accommodate a large audience. America is about Democracy and this change is the exact opposite of that. We live in New Mexico, a state in accordance to the United States Constitution.
Les
March 28, 2007 10:52 AM
Dr. Sue Cleveland said...
I have been reading all of these comments and it reminded of the past graduations I have been to. The speaker’s comments and theme range from: You’ve done it!; You are tomorrow’s future!; You have your whole lives ahead of you!; Atta Boy!; and everything else in-between. I have to admit I was always a sap for these speeches. I appreciated the heartfelt effort of the person giving it as well.
To The Graduating Class of 2007, what a wonderful message district office is sending you this year! There are so many excellent “Comments” posted here all you have to do is read them to understand the real message from district office.
THE PIT IS STILL OPEN it is time to pick up the pace and PASS THIS ON!
Jonny
March 28, 2007 12:25 PM
Dr. Cleveland said...
Take our Graduation Back To The Pit!!!
I have gone to Rio Rancho Schools for 12 years now.
I am an AP student and have been on the Honor Roll all 12 years.
This decision is NOT FAIR!
The newspaper said we were being "greedy", just because we want to put this to a fair vote?
Shame on them for insulting thousands of people for speaking up.
07 Senior
March 28, 2007 3:55 PM
On TV said...
Hi, did you hear about the new decision that RRHS has now? They want to broadcast it on TV. Ouch, not everyone has cable. WOW what a great IDEA lets just let friends and family sit in our living room with a bowl of popcorn and soda and enjoy the show. That is exactly how they are trying to sell it. How is it they really think people will be ok with that? Why go to all that trouble when we can drive down the hill to The Famous Pit?
Shelly
March 28, 2007 4:46 PM
Anonymous said...
MY NAME IS LATISHA AND I AM 11 YEARS OLD I HAVE A SISTER WHO IS A GRADUATE AND I AM VERY SAD TO HEAR WHAT IS HAPPENING. I WAS TOLD THAT I MIGHT HAVE TO STAY HOME. I LOOK UP TO MY SISTER AND I AM PROUD OF HER. SHE HAS WORKED HARD TO GET TO WHERE SHE IS. I CRIED WHEN MY MOM TOLD ME AND MY BROTHER WHO IS 7YEARS OLD THE NEWS PAPER SAID THAT THEY SHOULD LEAVE 10 AN YOUNGER AT HOME AM I SUPOSE TO WATCH MY BROTHER INSTEAD OF MY SISTER GRADUATE? I DONT KNOW WHY THE SCHOOL BOARD WANTS TO DO THIS TO MY FAMILY AND LOTS OF OTHER FAMILYS ALSO. IT SADDENS ME BECAUSE I WILL GRADUATE SOME DAY AND I DONT WANT THIS TO HAPPEN TO ME. CAN SOME ONE PLEASE HELP ME SO I SEE MY SISTER GRADUATE. I WOULD LIKE TO GO TO THE PIT SO I CAN GO WITH MY GRANDMA AND GRANDPA AND MY ANTIES I LOVE MY SISTER PLEASE BACK TO THE PIT. SAD IN RIO RANCHO LATISHA
March 28, 2007 6:55 PM
To Dr. Cleveland and Families affected said...
Some GREAT reading here.
After taking the time to really consider all of the reasons the administration decided to change our graduation. I have concluded beyond a shadow of a doubt that their reasons are self-serving. Their decisions discriminate against families and graduates and do not allow everyone to have a voice in this decision. It also places hardship, stress and is a serious distraction in people’s lives. It was completely one sided. At this time if they would allow us to vote they would lose. They will not allow us to vote at all costs. This will take legal action or enough people to complain about this decision. They are not listening and not conceding they are wrong.
Additionally, it is overtly obvious that there is a vast difference between the coverage on the news and the quality of the journalism concerning the Rio Rancho Observer, G. Herron, the Rio Rancho Journal, specifically the Ryans and the Tribune. Specifically, Herron and the Ryans editorial were both very offensive and poorly put together, with points that make no connections, other then to back the system. They never addressed the serious issues and made light of the fact a vote or fair input was not allowed; tickets are an obstacle; too bad for anyone’s extended family; and discriminated against persons concerning their age! (Herron) actually placed an age limit on the event! They degraded and shamed families for requesting relief and made their best argument to tell them to shut up, using because we told you so rhetoric, were smart your not, we know you don’t logic.
The other Journal and Tribune reporters presented the information that was given to them in a balanced manner.
NOTE: Our very own newspaper in the city of vision the Observer has NOT interviewed anyone that opposes this decision! Repeat has NOT! Which begs to ask…..WHY?
Can anyone say,
"Conflict of Interest"
Or
"Corporate Partners"
Go back to the Pit.
Randy
March 28, 2007 7:15 PM
LATISHA "ROCKS" and needs help, NOW! said...
Dr. Cleveland, you need to help an 11 year old and a 7 year old here in your school system, NOW please!
Ben
Anonymous said...
MY NAME IS LATISHA AND I AM 11 YEARS OLD I HAVE A SISTER WHO IS A GRADUATE AND I AM VERY SAD TO HEAR WHAT IS HAPPENING. I WAS TOLD THAT I MIGHT HAVE TO STAY HOME. I LOOK UP TO MY SISTER AND I AM PROUD OF HER. SHE HAS WORKED HARD TO GET TO WHERE SHE IS. I CRIED WHEN MY MOM TOLD ME AND MY BROTHER WHO IS 7YEARS OLD THE NEWS PAPER SAID THAT THEY SHOULD LEAVE 10 AN YOUNGER AT HOME AM I SUPOSE TO WATCH MY BROTHER INSTEAD OF MY SISTER GRADUATE? I DONT KNOW WHY THE SCHOOL BOARD WANTS TO DO THIS TO MY FAMILY AND LOTS OF OTHER FAMILYS ALSO. IT SADDENS ME BECAUSE I WILL GRADUATE SOME DAY AND I DONT WANT THIS TO HAPPEN TO ME. CAN SOME ONE PLEASE HELP ME SO I SEE MY SISTER GRADUATE. I WOULD LIKE TO GO TO THE PIT SO I CAN GO WITH MY GRANDMA AND GRANDPA AND MY ANTIES I LOVE MY SISTER PLEASE BACK TO THE PIT. SAD IN RIO RANCHO LATISHA
March 28, 2007 7:21 PM
The Observer call Yvette 994-9648 said...
"NOTE: Our very own newspaper in the city of vision the Observer has NOT interviewed anyone that opposes this decision! Repeat has NOT! Which begs to ask…..WHY?"
Call Yvette 994-9648 she will give you and interview
March 28, 2007 7:31 PM
Anonymous said...
I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHY THE SCHOOL BOARD IS MAKING IT MANDITORY FOR THE TEACHERS FROM THE RIO RANCHO MID HIGH ATTEND THE GRADUTION? THATS JUST MORE SEATS THEY ARE TAKING UP. MOST OF THE TEACHERS FROM THE MID HIGH DO WISH TO ATTEND
March 28, 2007 8:25 PM
senior 2007 said...
Herron from the rio rancho paper was very wrong for trying to put an age limit on who may attend the graduation.The way I see it at a senior is we are role models for the younger children to stay in school so they will accomplish this in their life. It teaches children that if we can do it they can do it too just stay in school and do good.It is wrong to not let them go then it just makes them think well since I may not attend to see them graduate why should they? It is also making Herron look really bad for trying to say that children 10 years and under should stay home with a babysitter. Why dont he stay home himself? We seniors are really good role models for those that are younger so they will want to stay in school. IT shows them that anything we put our minds to and make goals we can accomplish. We Need to go back to the Pit so everyone may attend no matter what the age is.
March 28, 2007 8:36 PM
TO: Mr. or Mrs. or Ms "Rant and Rave" said...
So Mr. "Rant and Rave" is upset that an individual blog set up to air the views of parents who disagree with the decision to move the Rio Rancho High School graduation ceremony won't post his comments. But isn't he the same guy who dismisses, as ridiculous, the complaint that publicly elected officials made a decision affecting hundreds, if not thousands, of people without giving proper notice, without allowing discussion, without taking into account dissenting opinions? So my fellow American who's really the hypocrite here? Or do you having trouble reading?
Oh, before I forget “little Johnny” is a graduating Senior, thank you very much, and can read! Evidently you can’t! Excuse me but the very first page of the blog allows you to comment if you are against having the graduation at The Pit. “Here’s the thing” you were in the w-r-o-n-g section sir or ma’am! So go find the right section and present your opposing points of view.
Melissa
March 28, 2007 10:47 PM
To "Little Johnny's Graduation": said...
Regarding this rant that is in The Observer 3/29/07 issue:
"If you agree with the folks who believe, in error, that they have a constitutional right to invite 50 relatives to little Johnny's high school graduation, then you should go to the Web site they've setup on blogspot and type to your heart's content. If you are among those of us who are glad that we are finally able to hold graduation in our own city, forget about the site. All opposing points of view are being promptly deleted. So much for inviting public comment. The funny thing about it is how many of the posts there are all about rights, equality, public debate, and amber waves of grain. The good news is that little Johnny is almost a graduate. At least he will know what 'hypocrite' means."
Basically, there are two (2) sections you are welcome to “COMMENT” if you are “for” The Pit or if you are “against” The Pit.
The Web Log Blog’s opening page has from the very beginning clearly stated that there are two (2) ways to "COMMENT" and allows both "for" and "against" sections. It has very simple instructions and anyone that can read regardless of age can easily understand it.
The "If you are against the move to return to THE PIT, " section specially wrote this person that “ranted” and advised them that they could take his/her time and expound on as many points that they disagreed with and submit their feelings. They were given “carte blanche” to write as much as they wanted. We have yet to officially hear back from this person or persons. You can still actually go to the blog and read the comment to this same person that “ranted”, it is still on the blog to verify that this explanation is accurate.
Additionally, this very same person was advised repeatedly that they were in the wrong section and clearly disregarded that advice.
echarles1234@aol.com
March 28, 2007 11:04 PM
TO: Mr. or Mrs. or Ms "Rant and Rave" again…. said...
Say it ain’t so Mr. "Rant and Rave"
You were told repeatedly you were in the wrong section and you disregarded the advice?
Wow, you sound like a person that demands their own way?
Just from the tone of your “rant” and how you mocked “little Johnny” it is crystal clear that your views are paramount over anyone else’s?
You could not read the accurate instructions and then disregarded them when they were given to you?
Further, you were allowed and encouraged to comment and you have not provided your opposing points of view?
Well, we would still like to return to The Pit it is that simple.
Melissa
March 28, 2007 11:19 PM
Dr. Cleveland said...
Take our graduation back to the PIT
Belinda
March 28, 2007 11:58 PM
DR. CLEVELAND: said...
YOU MADE A DECISION AFFECTING THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE
MEN, WOMEN AND CHILDREN
WITHOUT GIVING PROPER NOTICE,
WITHOUT ALLOWING DISCUSSION,
WITHOUT TAKING INTO ACCOUNT DISSENTING OPINIONS!
THANK YOU MELISSA
WAYNE
March 29, 2007 12:04 AM
"for" THE PIT "COMMENT" here: said...
PLEASE SIGN THE PETITION said...
SIGN THE PETITION
Add your name and/or comments to this thread. If you want to go BACK TO THE PIT click on "COMMENTS" below and write in the space provided. To sign up for a Google account, is completely free, or you can comment using the other options.
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March 29, 2007 7:45 AM
THE PIT - DR. CLEVELAND: said...
?
?
YOU MADE A DECISION AFFECTING THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE
MEN, WOMEN AND CHILDREN
WITHOUT GIVING PROPER NOTICE,
WITHOUT ALLOWING DISCUSSION,
WITHOUT TAKING INTO ACCOUNT DISSENTING OPINIONS!
NO MATTER WHICH AMERICAN FLAG YOU WAIVE ALL OF THIS IS ALLOWED IN OUR COUNTRY!
THANK YOU MELISSA
Harry
March 29, 2007 7:57 AM
DR. Cleveland, WHAT DID WE DO WRONG? said...
WHAT DID WE DO WRONG?
I’m going to start this comment here and encourage anyone that would like our graduation to return to THE PIT to add on to this comment if you would like:
I started out this comment with a question. If nobody had raised concerns then we would have never been made to feel like “the bad guy”, like we did something wrong, because I see the stress this is causing my parents and my friends and many others. Something is very wrong here if people in the news media are going to make you feel bad. Anonymous people putting down my fellow graduates calling them “little Johnny” and making fun of his “large family”, telling him his parents and all of us were “hypocrites” for questioning the decision and boasting how American they are and we aren’t! Who could be so important in this great big world to design such a “caste system” type of thinking?
I can tell you this Dr. Cleveland they have motivated me TO TRY EVEN HARDER NOW! We know The Pit is still open for business and the Star Center can break your contract. Just like this person so rudely stated what words “little Johnny” would learn I have learned a few myself, “WE HAVE DONE NOTHING WRONG”!
Class of 2007
March 29, 2007 8:45 AM
DR. Cleveland, WHAT DID WE DO WRONG? said...
"little Johnny's new words:
“ . . . That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles, and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and HAPPINESS . . . it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security. . .”
Lloyd
Original Blog:
DR. Cleveland, WHAT DID WE DO WRONG? said...
WHAT DID WE DO WRONG?
I’m going to start this comment here and encourage anyone that would like our graduation to return to THE PIT to add on to this comment if you would like:
I started out this comment with a question. If nobody had raised concerns then we would have never been made to feel like “the bad guy”, like we did something wrong, because I see the stress this is causing my parents and my friends and many others. Something is very wrong here if people in the news media are going to make you feel bad. Anonymous people putting down my fellow graduates calling them “little Johnny” and making fun of his “large family”, telling him his parents and all of us were “hypocrites” for questioning the decision and boasting how American they are and we aren’t! Who could be so important in this great big world to design such a “caste system” type of thinking?
I can tell you this Dr. Cleveland they have motivated me TO TRY EVEN HARDER NOW! We know The Pit is still open for business and the Star Center can break your contract. Just like this person so rudely stated what words “little Johnny” would learn I have learned a few myself, “WE HAVE DONE NOTHING WRONG”!
Class of 2007
March 29, 2007 9:00 AM
little Johnny said...
There are a number of people, both here and in the press, who keep dragging "little Johnny," a graduating senior, along with his family, into this mess. After enduring the callous, condescending remarks, and lack of common courtesy, Little Johnny woke up this morning and got his blog on!
http://littlejohnnyinriorancho.blogspot.com/
March 29, 2007 12:03 PM
Anonymous said...
So who's going to wake up little Susie?
March 29, 2007 7:18 PM
Anonymous said...
This stinks! RRPS has been less than truthful with RRHS students and their families. This is a public high school, so why are we having a private graduation? It's so private that even the families of the graduates are not welcome.
Gloria
March 29, 2007 7:23 PM
Anonymous said...
Dr. Cleveland,
Gloria brings up a very good point. We are a public High School, but have made the graduation private. Is it because Mr. VonAncken was booed last year? What do you think is going to happen this year? Graduating seniors booing him last year indicates you need to find out why that happened?
Jesse
March 29, 2007 9:47 PM
Question to anonymous? said...
Hello,
They "do" or don't want to attend?
Alex
Anonymous said...
I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHY THE SCHOOL BOARD IS MAKING IT MANDITORY FOR THE TEACHERS FROM THE RIO RANCHO MID HIGH ATTEND THE GRADUTION? THATS JUST MORE SEATS THEY ARE TAKING UP. MOST OF THE TEACHERS FROM THE MID HIGH DO WISH TO ATTEND
March 29, 2007 9:48 PM
Go Go Go Johnny Go, Go Johnny Go said...
Deep down in Rio Rancho no were not near Queens
Way back up in the hills among the evergreens
There stood a little house made of block and wood
Where lived a county boy named Johnny B Good
Who also learned to read n write so well
And he could play the guitar just like ringin a bell
Go, go, go johnny go go
go johnny go go
go johnny go go
go johnny go go
johnny be good
Then one day in 07 when his graduation came
Ol’ Doc Cleveland moved it nah it wasn’t the same
Oh they put down “little Johnny” cause he wouldn’t sit
Cause all he ask Ol’ Doc was to let him return to The Pit
He used to carry his guitar in a gunny sack
Or sit beneath the tree by the railroad track
Oh an engineer could see him sitting in the shade
Strummin' to the rhythm that the drivers made
People passing by they'd stop and say
Oh my but that little county boy can play
Go, go, go johnny go go
go johnny go go
go johnny go go
go johnny go go
johnny be good
His mother told him some day you will be a man
And you will be the leader of a big old band
Many people coming from miles around
And hear you play your music till the sun goes down
Maybe someday your name gonna be in light
Sayin' Jonny be good tonight
Go, go, go johnny go go
go johnny go go
go johnny go go
go johnny go go
johnny be good
Then one day in 07 when his graduation came
Ol’ Doc Cleveland moved it nah it wasn’t the same
Oh they put down “little Johnny” cause he wouldn’t sit
Cause all he ask Ol’ Doc was to let him return to The Pit
Go, go, go johnny go go
go johnny go go
go johnny go go
go johnny go go
johnny be good
little Johnny said...
There are a number of people, both here and in the press, who keep dragging "little Johnny," a graduating senior, along with his family, into this mess. After enduring the callous, condescending remarks, and lack of common courtesy, Little Johnny woke up this morning and got his blog on!
March 29, 2007 10:08 PM
BACK TO THE PIT - DR. CLEVELAND: said...
?
YOU MADE A DECISION AFFECTING THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE
MEN, WOMEN AND CHILDREN
WITHOUT GIVING PROPER NOTICE,
WITHOUT ALLOWING DISCUSSION,
WITHOUT TAKING INTO ACCOUNT DISSENTING OPINIONS!
NO MATTER WHICH AMERICAN FLAG YOU WAIVE ALL OF THIS IS ALLOWED IN OUR COUNTRY!
THANK YOU MELISSA
Cheryl
March 29, 2007 10:10 PM
DR. CLEVELAND GO BACK said...
FAMILIES, DON’T GIVE UP! They CAN BREAK THE SO CALLED CONTRACT! DON’T BELIEVE IT WHEN THEY TELL YOU THEY CAN’T! THEY CAN! THE PIT IS STILL OPEN FOR BUSINESS ON MAY 19TH! YIPPIEEE!!
Louise
March 29, 2007 10:13 PM
Dr. Cleveland said...
Go back to The Pit!
March 29, 2007 10:14 PM
The Observer said...
Editor:
I didn't appreciate Gary Herron's remarks on The Observer article (March 25 column) about the high school graduation being relocated.
"Come on, parents of graduating seniors of 2007. Get used to the idea that the ceremony is going to be held at the Santa Ana Star." The idea is being shoved down our throats, even by The Observer's editor.
The school board shouldn't have changed the location two months prior to graduation and after we all had ordered our graduation invitations. All our graduation invitations state the graduation is being held at University Arena, "The Pit."
Is the school board going to reimburse us for all the invitations we couldn't use? The simple solution to this mess the school board created is just hold the graduation at The Pit like we were told in the first place and let the graduates of next year hold theirs Santa Ana Star Center.
Now the school board wants to televise the graduation one Cable One Network.
A lot of parents, including myself, have Dish Network, which will not broadcast the graduation. I have never heard people being limited access to a high school graduation. Only in Rio Rancho, the "City of Vision."
Tony
March 29, 2007 10:17 PM
The Observer said...
Editor:
As a member of the graduating class of 2007, I am deeply saddened by the lack of responses from all the parents of my fellow classmates at Rio Rancho High School concerning the issue of our graduation.
The celebration of my graduation will be completely ruined if not all my family members that I want to attend may attend. This problem is not only a problem for those of us graduating this year, but everyone who will be graduating from Rio Rancho High until the new high school is finished and holding its own graduations.
There are some out there who say we are being greedy, but how is it greedy to want close family members within sight of me on one of the biggest days of my life? I am saying goodbye to childhood completely and walking off stage from it. I know I will be nervous that day to walk on stage, but to know that all my family is in the stands cheering me on will make it all better. If my family is not permitted to come into the actual venue and are told to watch it on television in my living room; what is the incentive for them to spend the $300-$500 dollars per person to fly out here? Is it that they get to spend the great day of my graduation with my television until I arrive home?
I plan to have a party with everyone, but that is not my main event. We can celebrate it at anytime if you think the way some people are talking. Back when my brother graduated in 2004, I was excited to tell my family that they would come back to that same spot in three years to celebrate with me. Now I get to tell them to enjoy the television or I'll tape the ceremony and mail it to them. Taping the ceremony in general will be cheaper for me too. I just won't go.
Also, what was the point of some of us ordering 25-100 invitations? Shouldn't we start calling them notices? Since we can't use them as invitations it would better describe them. If we do not make our graduation a large ceremony and make it an "intimate" celebration, I do not see the point of going.
Why don't I hold an "intimate" celebration at my house and pick up the diploma the next day? We are the tenth graduation class (sic, ninth such class; the first was in 1999) of Rio Rancho, and should be treated as fairly as past classes have. Since I was in ninth grade I have heard that they wanted the class of 2007 to graduate at our arena in Rio Rancho. If the city has been planning on us graduating there since then, why did they not built it big enough? They knew how big of a class we are.
I want to go to the Pit again this year, and if they had built the Santa Ana Star Center big enough I would be proud to go there too. I am a proud member of the class of 2007, and I hope the rest of my school and their parents can help me in fighting this issue.
On the day of graduation you will all notice who I am, the one toward the back of the class loudly booing as VonAncken, and Sue Cleveland step on stage.
Lee Ann
March 29, 2007 10:19 PM
The Observer said...
"Why would they (whoever they are) change the plans without the students/parents' opinion? It is all about the seniors, or else they wouldn't be holding a graduation ceremony and to only be able to invite six people to graduation? What if there's families with more than six people? Wow, how nice of you guys to not allow someone's entire family to attend. Good job. No wonder nobody likes Rio Rancho; it's ran by a bunch of idiots. The school doesn't even let students know what's going on, seems like they have no idea what they are doing. Everybody is angry, because of the fact that they changed it after everybody out of state has made plans, and now a majority of them won't even be able to attend. It's just ridiculous. Why did I pay 100 and somewhat dollars for invitations for graduation when I can't even send them out, because you can't use them to get in the graduation?"
March 29, 2007 10:21 PM
Dr. Cleveland said...
We like that other families in Rio Rancho feel the same way about the graduation.
Our family is asking those in charge to have the graduation at the location we were always told it would be, THE PIT.
We and our freinds support the petition.
Pass this along to everyone you know.
Jil
March 29, 2007 10:26 PM
Bobby D. already said...
"Come writers and critics
Who prophesize with your pen
And keep your eyes wide
The chance won't come again
And don't speak too soon
For the wheel's still in spin
And there's no tellin' who
That it's namin'.
For the loser now
Will be later to win
For the times they are a-changin'."
March 29, 2007 10:28 PM
Anonymous said...
I agree with everything that has been said. It is so very unfair to the graduates to ruin the plans of so many family members and loved ones who have planned to attend the graduation at the PIT. Stop the madness and return this important event to the PIT.
March 30, 2007 6:58 AM
Dr. Cleveland said...
“IT IS SO VERY UNFAIR TO THE GRADUATES TO RUIN THE PLANS OF SO MANY FAMILY MEMBERS AND LOVED ONES WHO HAVE PLANNED TO ATTEND THE GRADUATION AT THE PIT.”
Liz
March 30, 2007 7:40 AM
DR. CLEVELAND: said...
YOU MADE A DECISION AFFECTING THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE
MEN, WOMEN AND CHILDREN
WITHOUT GIVING PROPER NOTICE,
WITHOUT ALLOWING DISCUSSION,
WITHOUT TAKING INTO ACCOUNT DISSENTING OPINIONS!
THANK YOU MELISSA
Archer
March 30, 2007 8:21 AM
DR CLEVELAND said...
GREAT COMMENTS HERE TO GO BACK TO THE PIT
Pete
March 30, 2007 8:27 AM
Praying said...
I'm praying for this situation to be resolved so we can all enjoy the graduation at the PIT. God Bless you.
JoAnn
March 30, 2007 8:30 AM
Great point said...
If you believe in PRAYER, PRAY FOR GOD'S WILL IN THIS MATTER
March 30, 2007 8:41 AM
Praying for the PIT, too. said...
Praying for the PIT, too.
Kim
March 30, 2007 9:47 AM
James said...
Back to THE PIT NOW!!
March 30, 2007 10:13 AM
Lydia said...
We agree with going Back to THE PIT NOW!
March 30, 2007 10:22 AM
Praying for the PIT, too. said...
Praying for the PIT, too.
Juan
March 30, 2007 10:45 AM
"Katy Bar the DOOR!: said...
BACK TO THE PIT!
Roy
March 30, 2007 11:12 AM
yaragon said...
I want everyone to know that we appreciate all your responses regarding our fight to go back to The Pit
I want everyone to know that we are continuing to fight this matter SO PLEASE DO NOT GIVE UP because it is going to take ALL OF US to make this happen
The Pit is still available and because we know this, we are going to keep on fighting to have our graduation their
It is very important for the Seniors when you get back to school to get that Petition signed by everyone in school who will sign it and make sure and get their numbers so we can call their parents as well
We are all going to need everyone’s support at the school board meeting
I am working on getting to talk to the mayor and the governor to see if they can help so please do not give up
If anyone read the Rio Rancho Observer look in the opinion page their is a parent and senior who have a article in there but they also have 2 email addresses to email your opinions,
theobserver@rrobserver.com & news@rrobserver.com
Use both email addresses, please everyone send them an email as well since they have not done a story for us
I also got News 13 to agree to do a story again once spring break is over
I will send out that info again when I know for sure when
But for some weird reason when I called Channel 4 news they said they were aware of this situation but have been advised not to do any stories on this issue!
What’s up with that?
Someone seems to have some influence here but not sure who or why but I think that they are getting the picture that we are not going to go away
Please keep the pressure on and let all your friends and family to join in to help us
PASS THIS ON
Yvette 994-9648
March 30, 2007 4:34 PM
KOB TV said...
What's up with KOB?
They should cover this story in Rio Rancho!
Benjamin Class of 2008
March 30, 2007 4:37 PM
Dr. Cleveland, STOP now: said...
Please read the comments here, they will inform you about what is going on with the graduation. What is sad for me is Sue Cleveland is caught up in this situation. They don’t have a foot to stand on. We’ve all been taught right from wrong. This decision is wrong!
Sue Cleveland you need to get a handle on this or it’s going to get ugly.
You cannot discriminate against a person for having a large family or for having many contacts. You cannot discriminate against anyone concerning their age and this decision is doing both!
Sue Cleveland there are numerous Hispanic families here with large families.
Renn
March 30, 2007 4:45 PM
Viva La Raza! said...
Viva La Raza!
Take a very good look at this decision ladies and gentlemen. No matter what nationality you are we have to keep letting them know it is dead wrong. Just ask “little Johnny” he knows check it out: http://littlejohnnyinriorancho.blogspot.com/
Jorge
March 30, 2007 4:55 PM
Don't believe them said...
DR. CLEVELAND GO BACK
FAMILIES, DON’T GIVE UP!
They CAN BREAK THE SO CALLED CONTRACT!
DON’T BELIEVE IT WHEN THEY TELL YOU THEY CAN’T!
THEY CAN!
THE PIT IS STILL OPEN FOR BUSINESS ON MAY 19TH!
YIPPIEEE!!
Paula
March 30, 2007 5:04 PM
Dr. Cleveland please know said...
FACT:
All of the persons affected by this decision were not allowed to provide input.
No poll, data, investigation or analysis was utilized formally or informally involving all affected.
School personnel both willfully and knowingly did not utilize any method or tool regarding all of the persons affected by this decision.
March 30, 2007 7:57 PM
resign Dr. Cleveland now! said...
I am very upset over how this entire matter has been handled from top to bottom! I don’t want to curse here but I am completely ANGRY! Business is business the buck stops with Dr. Cleveland. If she can’t open her eyes and see the harm done, she needs to resign her position. Name that school after someone that deserves it. Those punk lackey writers in the newspaper are dumber and dumber THEY DO NOT TELL ME HOW TO RAISE MY CHILDREN, EVER!!! NOR DO THEY TELL ME MY 10 YEAR OLD CAN’T COME SEE THEIR BROTHER GRADUATE! I HAVE VOTED EVERYTIME A VOTE WAS NEEDED! HOW DARE THEY LUMP ME IN WITH PERSONS THEY FEEL ARE NEGLIGENT! RETIRE HERRON AND RYANS OR CHANGE YOUR OCCUPATION. HERRON HOW COME YOU OR YOUR NEWSPAPER HAS NOT INTEVIEWED A FAMILY AGAINST THIS DECISION? WHERE THE HELL IS ACTION JACKSON IN ALL THIS? OH, AND THE RANTER IN THE NEWSPAPER, YOU MAKE ME SICK HOW “AMERICAN” YOU THINK YOU ARE! SPELL THIS B-I-G-O-T, I KNOW YOU’RE ONE BECAUSE I’M WHITE LIKE YOU FOOL!
Lynn
March 30, 2007 8:30 PM
Dr. Cleveland said...
Back to The Pit
Cris
March 30, 2007 9:49 PM
Anonymous said...
The decision is discrimatory
change it back
Gwen
March 30, 2007 9:50 PM
Anonymous said...
Change it back please
Tye
March 30, 2007 9:51 PM
Anonymous said...
I don't write very well, but all you have to do is read the comments here and they say better then I could.
This is a wrong decision send the grads back to The Pit
Anita
March 30, 2007 9:55 PM
To the good Doctor said...
Ok, here is what I would like to say. Dr. Cleveland only you can get this contract undone and get us all back to the Pit. I truly hope God comes into your heart so you can see how bad this really is.
Ryan
March 30, 2007 9:58 PM
GO RAMS GO BACK TO THE PIT said...
2007 - Largest Graduating Class in the entire state and in our school’s history.
GO RAMS GO BACK TO THE PIT
Carl's Aunt Jenny
March 31, 2007 8:26 AM
Hey Doc, Sports Illustrated said...
THE PIT IS # 13!!!
Hey Doc, Sports Illustrated said:
SI's Top 20 Venues of the 20th Century
1 Yankee Stadium
2 Augusta National
3 Michie Stadium
4 Cameron Indoor Stadium
5 Bislett Stadium
6 Wrigley Field
7 Roland Garros
8 Lambeau Field
9 Fenway Park
10 Saratoga Race Course
11 Pebble Beach
12 Wembley Stadium
13 THE PIT
14 Boston Marathon Course
15 Camden Yards
16 Lamade Stadium
17 Daytona International Speedway
18 Notre Dame Stadium
19 St. Andrews
20 Rose Bowl
Others mentioned in no particular order, BUT TAKE A LOOK AT THESE OTHER NAMES!:
Boston Garden
Taylor Field
Yost Ice Arena
Indianapolis Motor Speedway
Memorial Stadium
The Melbourne Cricket Ground
The Palestra
Husky Stadium
The Montreal Forum
Michigan Stadium
Madison Square Garden.
Patterson Field
The Maracana Stadium
Lord's cricket ground
The San Siro
Wimbledon
Monte Carlo
LSU Tiger Stadium
Beaver Stadium
Allen Fieldhouse
Jordan-Hare Stadium
The Forum
Mile High Stadium
Tiger Stadium
___________
Grapevine0691 he said she said...
The University Arena
"The Arena"
"The PIT"
Sports Illustrated's Top-20 Sports Venues of the Century:
In June, 1999, Sports Illustrated listed its top-20 sporting venues of the century and The Pit checked in at No. 13.
“Sports Illustrated in 1999 named The Pit one of the Top 20 sporting venues of the 20th century — a list that includes Yankee Stadium, Wrigley Field, Pebble Beach and Daytona International.
Yeah, that’s big-time company. That’s like being compared to Babe Ruth, Joe Louis, Man O’ War, the Roman Empire, George Washington, Marlon Brando, Katharine Hepburn.
When you make an elite list like that maybe something special had to happen in The Pit above and beyond Lobos basketball.
And it did.”
There is beaucoup (bookoo) history and memories regarding "The PIT"! It is now 41 years young! I remember as a kid walking past from a distance as they prepared to build it. Gigantic hills were formed as they removed dirt.
“Famous hole has hosted superstars, special events… It’s probably the most famous hole in the ground since the Grand Canyon. It’s almost aged as well, too. Just look at some of the characters who have brought their acts to The Pit over the past 40 years: Michael Jordan, Mick Jagger, the Eagles, Jimmy Valvano, Dennis Rodman, Jethro Tull, Kareem Abdul Jabbar, Steve Nash, Elton John, James Taylor, Alonzo Mourning, Led Zeppelin, Christian Laettner, Luciano Pavarotti, George Strait, Patrick Ewing, John Wooden, Bobby Knight, Rick Pitino.” Stevie Wonder, Magic Johnson, Santana, Larry Nance, John Thompson, Bill Cosby and that’s the short list!
The name "The Arena" or "The PIT" were always popular titles when talking about the great concerts that took place there.
"The PIT" known for incredible Basketball, at the Professional, Collegiate and High School level. My Brother helped Coach a State Championship there!
And of course UNM and High School Graduations all at "The PIT"!
If you were fortunate to have had your graduation there either from High School or UNM or both there is a fondness about the place and you have to love the name, "The PIT"! Perhaps it was the event, but there is an undeniable "energy" there. Sure its a hole in the ground but if will always remain a location of celebration, accomplishment, music, history, success, defeat, incredible wins and gut wrenching losses, woulda, coulda, shoulda, lore, myth, legend, fact, fiction, blood, sweat and tears and forever simply, "The PIT".
I am sure there has been some very good stories written and told about the various events that have taken place there (see blow). Santana played there in the early 70's, the concert was ranked in the top 4 among all concerts that summer throughout the southwest.
Endless sports stories, concerts and graduations, I remember a graduation when the entire graduating class of Eldorado High School as well as families in the audience gave the principal a standing ovation this was in 2001 or 2002, that was impressive?
Last year they estimated over 11 million people have come to the Lobo games, that does not include ALL of the Graduations, concerts, etc.!
“Bill Cosby took on the Lobos 31 years ago and came out on top”
"What a terrific atmosphere for college basketball. Great building...great history...18,000 screaming fans. It's big time hoops, baby!" - Dick Vitale ESPN
“The Pit got its nickname because it is literally a pit dug out of Albuquerque’s Southeast Mesa. The roof was built first, then dirt was excavated to create a large hole. The arena floor is 37 feet below ground level. In 1966-67, season tickets for Lobos men’s basketball were $20 for bench seats and $30 for chairbacks. A single-game ticket was $2.50.
The opening season in The Pit featured 15 home games. The highest ranked Lobos team to play in The Pit was the Lobos men of 1966-67 who achieved a No. 3 ranking in January 1967.”
“One of college basketball's most famous and recognizable buildings, University Arena is the home of New Mexico men's and women's basketball.
The Pit is built in a 37-foot hole on Albuquerque's southeast mesa. First the roof was constructed, then the hole was dug and the Arena built. That all happened in 1966. The unique Behlen roof (338 by 300 feet) was set up by contractors and then 55,000 cubic yards of earth were removed. About 28,000 yards of concrete were poured in the initial construction, which allowed a seating capacity of 14,831. The cost - an incredibly economical $1.4 million.
Arena expansion was undertaken when it became apparent that fan interest was too great even for the original structure. The expansion in 1975 cost near $2.2 million and involved the extension of a cantilevered deck above the existing facility. There are six rows in the deck, with a seating capacity of 2,300. Reserved standing-room-only spots increase The Pit's capacity to 18,018.
The 2006-07 season will be the 41st year that University Arena has served as home for Lobo hoops. The first game was played Dec. 1, 1966, with New Mexico defeating Abilene Christian, 62-53. A total of 704 games have been played overall. The Lobos have come away the victor in 569 of those, good for a stunning .808 winning percentage.
What is even more impressive about UNM's home court is that over 11 million fans have flocked into this sunken edifice to see their beloved Lobos play basketball. The exact figure stands at 11,023,733. The Lobos have averaged an astounding 15,659 fans the past 40 years, an amazing 97% of capacity.
The Lobos have finished second in the nation in attendance five times, third on four occasions, and fourth six times.
2005-06 Attendance Numbers
The University of New Mexico is one of very few schools to have both its men's and women's basketball programs rank in the top-25 in attendance during the 2005-06 season. The Lobo women were fourth while the men finished No. 21. The UNM men and women have both finished in the top-25 in each of the past eight seasons.
The rankings:
Although the men's average of 13,387 is its lowest in 25 years, UNM has still finished in the top-25 for 40 consecutive years, or every season the Lobos have played in The Pit. No other school in the country can make that claim.
UNM hosted the NCAA Championship in 1983, won by North Carolina State over Houston, the 1968, '78, '92 and 2000 West Regional, the 1985 and 1996 West Region First and Second Rounds, and 1988 McDonald's High School All-American basketball game. The NCAA Men's First and Second Rounds were here in 2002 followed by the Women's First and Second Rounds and the Midwest Regional in 2003. UNM hosted the women's first and second rounds again in 2004, followed by the men's Albuquerque Regional in 2005 and the West Regional for the women's tournament in 2006. The Pit will again host NCAA women's tournament action in 2008 and 2009.
The UNM women's basketball team is also enjoying the home court advantage The Pit offers. Over the past nine seasons under current head coach Don Flanagan, The Pit has become one of the rowdiest places in all of women's college basketball. The women have compiled a home record of 159-32 (.832) over the last 11 years. The women's team has also been in the top-10, nationally, in average attendance in each of the last eight seasons. In 2006, the women's team averaged 10,355 fans per game, fourth in the NCAA, and posted a 16-2 record. On nine different occasions, the women's squad has sold out The Pit. Five times they have filled it to the 18,018 regular season capacity. Four times they sold out NCAA tournament games when the capacity was over 16,000. Each of these nine games has come since the 1999 season.”
Rio Rancho, “Go BIG or stay HOME”! “The PIT” is the Biggest venue in the state!
Ironically, I already wrote my Brother is the Uncle of this years Graduate from Rio Rancho, who helped Coach a State Championship at "The PIT", he also graduated at "The PIT" and lives in Albuquerque but will not be able to attend this Graduation because we won't have enough tickets and this is my Brother's favorite Nephew!
I have read a lot of diplomatic emails, I've read several comments back and forth when this all started here in March with good news coverage by KOAT and then very one-sided editors from the newspapers writing without the entire facts.
Read all of those emails sent to you and then please "PASS IT ON!
RIO RANCHO BASKETBALL TEAM YOU JUST ROCKED “THE PIT”,
YOU JUST WON YOUR FIRST STATE CHAMPIONSHIP;
MR. DUNCAN ENCOURAGED YOU AND ALL STUDENTS
TO “SHOW THEM WE OWN ‘THE PIT’!!
….AND YOU DID!!
WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO NOW?
“WE’RE GOING TO DISNEY LAN….WAIT….NO…..
WE WANT TO GO BACK TO “THE PIT” FOR OUR GRADUATION, WE OWN IT NOW!!
DID YOU SEE HOW MANY FANS WE HAD THERE?! IT WAS GREAT-GO RAMS!!!
http://epaper.abqjournal.com/Repository/ml.asp?Ref=VEUvMjAwNi8xMS8wOSNBcjAzMDAw&Mode=HTML&Locale=english-skin-custom
http://epaper.abqjournal.com/Repository/ml.asp?Ref=QVRMLzE5OTkvMTEvMTIjQXIwMzUwMA==&Mode=Html&Locale=english-skin-custom
http://epaper.abqjournal.com/Repository/ml.asp?Ref=VEUvMjAwNi8xMS8wOSNBcjAzMjAx&Mode=HTML&Locale=english-skin-custom
http://www.abqtrib.com/search/?q=%22the+pit+at+40%22&search_submit.x=0&search_submit.y=0
_________
In Great Company said...
Sports Illustrated's Top-20 Sports Venues of the Century:
In June, 1999, Sports Illustrated listed its top-20 sporting venues of the century and The Pit checked in at No. 13.
“Sports Illustrated in 1999 named The Pit one of the Top 20 sporting venues of the 20th century — a list that includes Yankee Stadium, Wrigley Field, Pebble Beach and Daytona International.
Yeah, that’s big-time company. That’s like being compared to Babe Ruth, Joe Louis, Man O’ War, the Roman Empire, George Washington, Marlon Brando, Katharine Hepburn.
When you make an elite list like that maybe something special had to happen in The Pit above and beyond Lobos basketball.
And it did.”
March 31, 2007 9:23 AM
Dr. Cleveland GO BACK said...
That is incredible information about THE PIT
being named right along with the greatest venues in THE WORLD!
Why don’t we all GO BACK TO THE PIT!!
Consider a Wedding….
you rent a location that can hold EVERYONE you invited!
We have all been various sized Weddings right?
We have THE World Famous PIT, right?
Then why are we downsizing?
Because the principal was booed?
District office needs to examine why the principal was booed
by the graduating Seniors 2006
and why Mr. Tripp was never booed?
THERE IS A REASON HE WAS BOOED
AND YOU ARE ALL LOOKING THE OTHER WAY!
I’m not condoning the booing
But you do not understand why it happened!
Don’t downsize, correct the problem.
GO BACK NOW!
Becky
March 31, 2007 10:44 AM
Becky knows said...
YES......
That is incredible information about THE PIT
being named right along with the greatest venues in THE WORLD!
THAT IS REALLY GREAT!
Why don’t we all GO BACK TO THE PIT!!
Yes consider a Wedding….
you rent a location that can hold EVERYONE you invited!
(Just like we already invited people to come to the graduation!)
We have all been to various sized Weddings right?
Small, Medium and Large!
We have THE World Famous PIT, right?
What would posses you to downsize at this late date?
Because the principal was booed?
The District office needs to examine why the principal was booed
by the graduating Seniors of 2006
and why our past principal, Mr. Tripp was never booed?
THERE IS A REASON WHY this principal WAS BOOED
AND YOU ARE ALL LOOKING THE OTHER WAY!
I’m also not condoning the booing...
But you do not understand why it happened!
Don’t downsize the location, correct the problem.
Don't discriminate against those of us with a large family or have young children!
GO BACK NOW!
Stephanie
March 31, 2007 11:45 AM
Alphonso said...
The proud parents of a graduating senior are asking you to return our daughter’s graduation to The Pit. The comments here explain it all. Something is very wrong with this last minute change no matter what the reasoning is.
Alphonso
March 31, 2007 12:09 PM
THE ANNOUNCEMENTS SUCK!! said...
THE ANNOUNCEMENTS SUCK!!
WE NEED TO GET AN ATTORNEY ON THIS. I DID NOT PAY $200 FOR A BUNCH OF MESSED UP ANNOUNCEMENTS!
I DON'T NEED THEM ALL NOW. PLEASE DON'T LET THEM GETAWAY WITH THIS.
Sal
March 31, 2007 12:15 PM
Brandon said...
We need to have our graduation at the Pit.
March 31, 2007 12:16 PM
Do the right thing Dr. Sue Cleveland. said...
I have an American flag hanging from my house and have had one there for over 15 years. I’ve voted on every issue regarding everything that required one. For me to tell you I am more an American then you are is an indication someone does not get it. For me to put you down just because you don’t see it my way is ignorance. I don’t judge people for the color of their skin, or if they have a flag in their yard, or if they don’t know what district they live in, or how old they are, or how many people they want to invite to a graduation or anything for that matter. Everyone should be able to present their point of view on any subject, period. I’m all for having the graduation in Rio Rancho, further, only after we have polled everyone affected, the seniors and their families. The current administration has it ass backwards and all you critics putting down people for speaking their minds are nothing but a bunch of …….. well I better not write that. Do the right thing Dr. Sue Cleveland.
Ernest
March 31, 2007 12:38 PM
Sherry said...
Great Petition and put this decision to a vote.
March 31, 2007 12:40 PM
CALL Yvette 994-9648 said...
I want everyone to know that we appreciate all your responses regarding our fight to go back to The Pit
I want everyone to know that we are continuing to fight this matter SO PLEASE DO NOT GIVE UP because it is going to take ALL OF US to make this happen
The Pit is still available and because we know this, we are going to keep on fighting to have our graduation their
It is very important for the Seniors when you get back to school to get that Petition signed by everyone in school who will sign it and make sure and get their numbers so we can call their parents as well
We are all going to need everyone’s support at the school board meeting
I am working on getting to talk to the mayor and the governor to see if they can help so please do not give up
If anyone read the Rio Rancho Observer look in the opinion page their is a parent and senior who have a article in there but they also have 2 email addresses to email your opinions,
theobserver@rrobserver.com & news@rrobserver.com
Use both email addresses, please everyone send them an email as well since they have not done a story for us
I also got News 13 to agree to do a story again once spring break is over
I will send out that info again when I know for sure when
But for some weird reason when I called Channel 4 news they said they were aware of this situation but have been advised not to do any stories on this issue!
What’s up with that?
Someone seems to have some influence here but not sure who or why but I think that they are getting the picture that we are not going to go away
Please keep the pressure on and let all your friends and family to join in to help us
PASS THIS ON
Yvette 994-9648
March 31, 2007 12:42 PM
"little Johnny" said...
There are a number of people, both here and in the press, who keep dragging "little Johnny," a graduating senior, along with his family, into this mess. After enduring the callous, condescending remarks, and lack of common courtesy, Little Johnny woke up this morning and got his blog on!
http://littlejohnnyinriorancho.blogspot.com/
March 31, 2007 12:44 PM
Marc said...
I want a vote to go back to the UNM Pit.
Marc
March 31, 2007 12:46 PM
RRPS go back said...
ATTN: RRPS we do not agree with how you handled the graduation change. GO BACK TO THE PIT
Carla
March 31, 2007 1:11 PM
Dr. Cleveland GO BACK TO THE PIT said...
Gary Herron’s opinions regarding families against the graduation changing are biased, rude, and of no real substance. His discrimination of anyone under the age of 10 is ludicrous and illogical. His remarks slap, he is the one that is "underhanded and nasty, at best" just look at the title of his storyline. I bet he sends in his own “rant”!
Beatrice
March 31, 2007 1:28 PM
To the news media said...
Mike and Genie Ryan have no common sense in their article, they talk about how parents need to educate their kids and what they should learn, these graduates have obviously learned or else they wouldn’t be graduating? Common sense, when we want your advice we’ll ask for it. We don’t need two “slack jawed yokes” telling us how to raise our children make that three-Gary Herron. Anytime I disagree with Sue Cleveland and her “posse” I will for sure speak up. None of you will tell what I can say or how I should think. Since when do you have the corner on freedom of speech?
Dr. Cleveland needs to let families decide.
Marge
March 31, 2007 1:29 PM
Alice said...
Dr. Cleveland we want this graduation at THE PIT, thank you.
March 31, 2007 1:31 PM
Billy said...
2007 Seniors are getting ripped off, the principal deserved to get booed last year!
March 31, 2007 1:45 PM
“Wake little Susie wake up” said...
This is the “little apple” damn it! Richard Vonacken better grow some tough skin. How’s come Tripp was never booed?
“Wake little Susie wake up”
March 31, 2007 1:47 PM
Isabel said...
Sorry Dr. Cleveland. We just can’t agree with changing this year’s graduation without allowing everyone to have input in this decision. We support the idea to have a graduation here; we don’t support harming thousands of people. We don’t support verbally degrading them in the newspaper. We don’t support discriminating against thousands of persons wanting to see a graduation.
Isabel
March 31, 2007 2:28 PM
Dr. Cleveland, superintendent: said...
Dr. Cleveland, superintendent:
Our family will have at least 12 persons in attendance. We are NOT going to short change another family from seeing their son or daughter graduate. Your decision is bad. We have six family members flying in from across the country. These plans were made well before we heard about this decision in the news. We never received any letter from the school. We want you to return the graduation to The Pit.
Darrel
March 31, 2007 2:36 PM
Dr. Cleveland said...
Fred concurs:
Whatever the merits of moving the Rio Rancho High School graduation ceremony to the Santa Ana Star Center in Rio Rancho, the decision should have been made before rather than after families had begun planning. Extended family members have already made travel plans and requested vacation times in anticipation of attending the ceremony for which they may not now get tickets. It is apparent there was not enough public deliberation about this issue. A decision affecting the entire school population should have been discussed publicly so that all voices were heard prior to the decision, particularly since the number of seats available to family and friends of the graduates has been reduced by more than two thirds. Please join us in moving the graduation ceremony back to The Pit. Sign the Petition and pass this information to everyone you know.
March 31, 2007 2:50 PM
Sue Cleveland said...
Sue Cleveland, don’t forget where you came from! This is not the Sue Cleveland I know! Sue, look at the facts and break your contract.
Dwight
March 31, 2007 3:00 PM
Manuel said...
DR. CLEVELAND YOUR DECISION IS DISCRIMINATION!
March 31, 2007 3:39 PM
Seniors 2007 said...
“Now Is the Time for All Good People to Come to the Aid of their 2007 Seniors”
March 31, 2007 4:11 PM
Dr. Cleveland said...
Dr. Cleveland, “those that fail to learn the lessons of history are doomed to repeat them”
Terry
March 31, 2007 4:18 PM
Dr. Cleveland said...
IT WAS THE CHOSEN FEW WHO YELLED THE LOUDEST, NOT EVERYONE WAS ALLOWED TO VOTE OR GIVE ANY INPUT! PRINCIPAL’S EGO WAS HURT BECAUSE HE WAS BOOED LAST YEAR, NO WONDER! THE DECISION TO CHANGE VENUES JUST HAPPENED EVEN THOUGH PLANS HAVE ALREADY BEEN MADE! THE DISTRICT IS NOW USING THE EXCUSE THEY ALREADY SIGNED THE CONTRACT! ABOUT 10,000 PEOPLE THAT WANT TO BE THERE CAN’T GO! ANNOUNCEMENTS HAVE “THE PIT” ON THEM, THAT IS TERRIBLE! WE LIVE IN AMERICA, WE HAVE RIGHTS! WE CANNOT LET THEM GET AWAY WITH THIS! FOR THE SAKE OF OUR CHILDREN!
Kevin
March 31, 2007 5:08 PM
Dr. Cleveland said...
The school board never voted on the decision to move the location of graduation. They are aware of it but refuse to overrule this mistake. The majority of parents and students do not want this. They won’t allow a vote because then it will change their plans.
Wallace
March 31, 2007 5:08 PM
To Dr. Cleveland said...
The decision being imposed on everyone is terrible planning!
Who was allowed to vote?
Who was allowed to decide?
Input should have been requested from everyone not just from those that voiced their concerns!
How is that considered fair?
All Graduates and Parents should have been advised about this change in August 2006 not this late, not this late in March 2007.
You said “many” made the decision there are “many” more that want this at “The Pit”.
Everyone did not give input!
How could this have been overlooked?
Let us vote now!
Patty
March 31, 2007 5:09 PM
Dr. Cleveland said...
Dr. Cleveland we humbly ask for the over 10,000 people that would like to be at the graduation but can't due to limited seating, PLEASE come back to your senses! For goodness sake they are naming a school after you, show some basic human compassion and fairness here!
Ron
March 31, 2007 5:21 PM
Graduation Cancelled The Observer said...
Graduation Cancelled The Observer
By TOM TREWEEK/OBSERVER STAFF REPORTER
What started recently as a simple decision has now grown into Rio Rancho Public Schools' most controversial move ever, topping even Science Policy 401 and sex education.
Two factions have developed in the debate over the location for this year's RRPS graduation ceremony. One group of parents was thrilled that it would be held at the Santa Ana Star Center, while the other wanted to use The Pit in Albuquerque, which allowed more people to attend.
Now, neither group is happy.
RRPS Superintendent Dr. Sue Cleveland has announced a press conference for later today in which she will officially cancel the graduation ceremony.
"No matter what we did, we couldn't make anyone happy," she said. "So we're going to make everyone unhappy."
By canceling graduation, Cleveland is following through with a promise to the conflicting sides: "If you two can't get along, I'm going to pull over right now."
School officials briefly considered holding graduation ceremonies at Laté Da, a drive through coffee shop on NM 528, but later decided against the idea fearing it was too large.
The school's seniors will still earn their degrees, but there will be no ceremony to commemorate that feat. Diplomas will be mailed.
Said one student, "I'm happy with Cleveland's decision. After all, the goal of graduation is to please the parents, not to honor the students for all of their hard work."
March 31, 2007 6:26 PM
graduation cancelled? said...
WHAT?????
March 31, 2007 6:48 PM
To Gary Herron said...
"To Gary Herron ... Shame on you. These wonderful kids in Rio Rancho deserve our respect. They have worked hard to get to this point in their life and you write that it is our 'greed' to want to see these kids graduate. Fine, give away your other tickets for all the other parents, grandparents, aunts, uncles, and other family/friends who are very proud of our kids. This is not abuse but pride in our child. How dare you say that the school board deserves our respect? What was it that the principal of the high school said, they are trying to create a positive experience for everyone and this is for the community? No it's not, it's for the families of the graduates. They are the ones who deserve our respect for guiding their children to this point in time. If the school board actually thought about trying to 'make a large number of people happy' they should have left well enough alone and had this celebration of accomplishment at The Pit, where there wouldn't be an issue of how many people can attend. You should be ashamed of your own selfishness. This isn't a community event that needs to be in Rio Rancho or at the Star Center, it is a celebration for everyone. Look at how many kids will graduate, 600 and something. This is not just for the families, or the community, this is for all of the state to see how well Rio Rancho has excelled."
March 31, 2007 6:51 PM
Graduation Cancelled? said...
Did you hear this?
WHAT?????
March 31, 2007 7:06 PM
Call Dr. Cleveland now said...
Graduation Cancelled
The Observer By TOM TREWEEK/OBSERVER STAFF REPORTER
What started recently as a simple decision has now grown into Rio Rancho Public Schools' most controversial move ever, topping even Science Policy 401 and sex education.
Two factions have developed in the debate over the location for this year's RRPS graduation ceremony. One group of parents was thrilled that it would be held at the Santa Ana Star Center, while the other wanted to use The Pit in Albuquerque, which allowed more people to attend.
Now, neither group is happy.
RRPS Superintendent Dr. Sue Cleveland has announced a press conference for later today in which she will officially cancel the graduation ceremony.
"No matter what we did, we couldn't make anyone happy," she said. "So we're going to make everyone unhappy."
By canceling graduation, Cleveland is following through with a promise to the conflicting sides: "If you two can't get along, I'm going to pull over right now."
School officials briefly considered holding graduation ceremonies at Laté Da, a drive through coffee shop on NM 528, but later decided against the idea fearing it was too large.
The school's seniors will still earn their degrees, but there will be no ceremony to commemorate that feat. Diplomas will be mailed.
Said one student, "I'm happy with Cleveland's decision. After all, the goal of graduation is to please the parents, not to honor the students for all of their hard work."
March 31, 2007 7:16 PM
April's fool said...
Oh, hey, that's a good one! It's a hoax, folks. Now that I look at it, they were intentionally over the top in suggesting that graduation be held at Late Da - it wouldn't hold a roll of stamps. Pretty sure the call you make should be to The Observer editor, not Sue Cleveland - she didn't say it, and they make it clear in the editor's note: "We hope you recognize that none of the accounts nor quoted statements were true."
April 1, 2007 8:49 AM
retired reporter said...
How does the Observer know that you want them to do a story? Have you called them, or are you just expecting them to respond to your calls to the TV stations? No need to send a reporter, they are allowing you the space to tell your own story in letters and comments.
April 1, 2007 8:56 AM
good joke bad joke said...
this was a BAD joke, for sure The RR Observer is consistent.
Molly
April 1, 2007 8:59 AM
retired reporter said...
Yvette,
Seriously - the next time you pick up the phone to call KOAT, call The Observer. I suspect they aren't covering it because you haven't called them, yet you call the TV station in Albuquerque? Newspaper reporters operate the same way the TV stations do: they get news because someone makes the effort to share news.
April 1, 2007 9:12 AM
news junkie said...
I'm trying to figure out what the ABQ TV stations expect to gain from covering this - could it be that they have financial interest in holding graduation at the Pit? Are they corporate partners there? Seems odd to suggest one media source has financial interest without wondering about the others who appear so eager to cover it? What's in it for them - it can't be ratings. Can anyone tell me anything about this?
April 1, 2007 9:20 AM
matches malone said...
i'll see ya' all at 1
April 1, 2007 9:46 AM
tell me more retired said...
Retired,
Did you do any more research on this?
retired reporter said...
Tell me more: I'm paraphrasing, but I remember "Rants" in the Observer newspaper from parents with words to this effect, i.e., "what were they thinking" in building a Center not large enough to accommodate graduates. I suspect that the Administration may be thinking they were doing the "right" thing. I need to do a bit more research on the archived specifics, my retention isn't what it once was.
April 1, 2007 10:19 AM
Nobody's Fool said...
Oops, I am an April Fool,
Sorry, the graduation is not cancelled!
Ummmm...maybe I should have read it better before reading/posting portions of the article, I shoulda’ read the whole thing.
April 1, 2007 10:34 AM
Anonymous said...
I got the joke it was a BAD joke
April 1, 2007 10:46 AM
call The Observer said...
892-8080
Betta
April 1, 2007 10:52 AM
little Johnny got his blog on! said...
little Johnny said...
There are a number of people, both here and in the press, who keep dragging "little Johnny," a graduating senior, along with his family, into this mess. After enduring the callous, condescending remarks, and lack of common courtesy, Little Johnny woke up the other morning and got his blog on!
http://littlejohnnyinriorancho.blogspot.com/
April 1, 2007 11:55 AM
little johnny said...
Dear retired reporter:
Um...real newspapers actually go out and find the news. The news doesn't have to come looking for a reporter. And, hasn't the Observer already received letters and emails concerning this story? KOAT has done three newscasts on it. Is the paper waiting for someone to say pretty please?
It's interesting, and quite revealing, that the Observer's first front page news article about the Rio Rancho High School graduation ceremony being hijacked by the school administration, is not serious coverage, but a lame joke. That's exactly how they see this situation: as a joke.
Yvette Aragon may have to drive over to the Observer's offices and stand outside holding something shiny to get their attention.
April 1, 2007 12:31 PM
Inego Montoya said...
That's exactly what they've done! RRPS has HIJACKED the graduation and they're holding it hostage at the Santa Ana Star Center!
Curse you, Vonacken!
April 1, 2007 12:38 PM
retired reporter said...
Little Johnny,
You are misinformed, it doesn't work this way at all. True, reporters "go out" to get news, but they are quite often called or tipped as to when and where news happens - news antennae aren't standard issue in "J" school, we should be so lucky.
KOAT has done the stories because they have been called. Or do you actually think their news van was driving up 528 and their superior news antennae picked up the graduation buzz signal? "Quick! Make a U-turn, there's a strong signal coming from the southeast corner of this-a-way and that-a-way." April Fools! Not likely. They were called, otherwise they wouldn't have bothered.
You may disagree with the method, but his story is being covered without a reporter: they are allowing significant space to the letters and statements from both sides of this issue. Truth is, they aren't required to do anything at all.
April 1, 2007 1:13 PM
retired reporter said...
Yikes, that's "this" story. Guess I still need a copy editor :-)
April 1, 2007 1:14 PM
retired said...
To Retired,
I was asked to leave a comment here.This info is here in the comments of this blog I just copied them you can go back thru the comments and find them.Here are two different reporters going after a story.
Additionally, KOAT called me at the beginning of this entire matter just so you know.
John
KOAT wants you to call said...
Please call or email:
Rio Rancho Blog
KOAT is interested in updating our story on your fight to have the
graduation ceremonies moved back to the Pit.
Please write back with contact information or give me a call.
Thanks,
Cary J. Schwanitz
505-884-6324
cschwanitz@hearst.com
March 22, 2007 9:17 AM
Albuquerque Tribune said...
Please email and call Stephanie:
HI, this is Stephanie from the Albuquerque Tribune. I'd like to speak to someone about this. My number is 823-3609.
Thanks,
Stephanie Garcia Krenrich
sgarciakrenrich@abqtrib.com
April 1, 2007 1:40 PM
tell me more retired said...
Retired,
Did you do any more research on this?
retired reporter said...
Tell me more: I'm paraphrasing, but I remember "Rants" in the Observer newspaper from parents with words to this effect, i.e., "what were they thinking" in building a Center not large enough to accommodate graduates. I suspect that the Administration may be thinking they were doing the "right" thing. I need to do a bit more research on the archived specifics, my retention isn't what it once was.
April 1, 2007 1:43 PM
call The Observer said...
Anyone that would like to give them a story for the ages please
encourage everyone you know to
call The Observer said...
892-8080
Betta
April 1, 2007 3:52 PM
retired reporter said...
Tell me more retired,
I wasn't successful in locating the info on the Observer website, but I was successful in my request to review the printed archives for this period last year. That said, I haven't had an opportunity to visit the Observer offices as yet due to some unexpected travel recently. When I am available to do so, I'll update and share.
April 1, 2007 3:59 PM
I'm still mad said...
Hi, Back to The Pit people.
I just finished reading the front page of today’s Observer newspaper. Wheeww! My blood pressure just went through the roof! I called my friend to tell her and found out it was all an April Fool’s Joke! OUCH, I am still boiling angry! My friend let me know how upset her family was after reading the front page and told me about this web site. I have been reading a lot of the comments here and I am even more disgusted! I now I decided to add one too! Oh my, I am so glad I found you.
I admit I WAS one of those that did not mind the graduation was at the Star Center. Thanks to the little April Fool’s gag I am mad as hell and did not realize how many people are getting hurt over this! Count us in! Dr. Cleveland, change the graduation. Observer news staff, I hate you!!!
Danielle
April 1, 2007 5:07 PM
WHAAAAT? said...
Go to:
http://littlejohnnyinriorancho.blogspot.com/
I am very saddened that discrimination is very much a large part of this entire decision.
Spanish speakers, whiners, being rowdy covered all at one time? Yes and the good editor, Mr. Herron or anyone else did not bother to clarify this language’s origin or history in this part of the country?
Whaaaat?
The shameless face of bigotry rears its ugly head:
From the Observer
"I agree with the guy on the Ford advertisements speaking in Spanish, and some of the furniture stores do the same. I won't buy from any of them, either. If you want to speak Spanish, move back to Mexico. Also, I have never seen so many whiners about where they're going to have the graduation. If they hadn't acted so rude and out of order last year, maybe they would have listened to them. Also, Ned Cantwell's (columns) are very good."
This is just straight-up prejudice. FYI, amigo, Spanish was spoken in New Mexico long before English. I notice Mr. Herron didn't add his two cents to this rant.
little Johnny got his blog on! said...
little Johnny said...
There are a number of people, both here and in the press, who keep dragging "little Johnny," a graduating senior, along with his family, into this mess. After enduring the callous, condescending remarks, and lack of common courtesy, Little Johnny woke up the other morning and got his blog on!
http://littlejohnnyinriorancho.blogspot.com/
April 1, 2007 6:15 PM
Call Yvette 994-9648 said...
Call Yvette 994-9648
We have started a Hard Copy paper PETITION and if you would like to sign it, please call me and I will meet you to get it signed.
My number again is 994-9648.
Any other ideas?
Let me know, because we need to let them know that WE ARE NOT JUST "MAKING NOISE"
WE all know this is a very important issue to our graduates and to all of us involved.
We need to continue to show our support.
April 1, 2007 6:31 PM
PIT still open on 5/19 said...
Hello everyone,
Reminder:
I spoke to THE PIT, yes!
They still have May 19TH open! They will not schedule anything on that day.
Cost for THE PIT = $7,800.00
Cost for the Center = $6,200.00
A seat at the Center costs more then a seat at THE PIT.
How about that!
M
April 1, 2007 6:34 PM
Great comment said...
Great comment
“What we have here is failure to communicate”
This has been said over and over again. I think because we are short on time we need to put this to a fair vote. No hanky panky. The school board is not going to back us, if they were they already would have. They are all stalling just by the fact they have not allowed a vote by anyone formally. They know their decision would lose in a fair vote. This has power play written all over it. Everyone is pointing fingers but they are not budging. Even the Rio Rancho media is supporting the bad decision and criticizing any little comment that is made.
Keep passing the word along The Pit is still available. All that nonsense with TV feed is garbage and it confirms they messed up. The Rio Rancho media is NOW trying to say that The Pit is only going to hold 11,000, they are still over 60% short! 60% percent is still a lot of people that can’t be there and want to be there. I also think The Pit would hold more then 11,000 people the media has their figures wrong. Also, they said there are 4 ways to get to the Star Center, please draw me a map. You have to drive through Rio Rancho to get to a 2 lane road, and when you get there it is 1 way in and 1 way out. I know, I go to the hockey games.
Abe
April 1, 2007 6:47 PM
get with it said...
I can't see how we'll get anything changed if we can't get our information straight. Gary Herron wrote the column, but he is not the editor. If you're going to point the finger of blame, be sure that your information is correct, otherwise this blog has no credibility.
April 1, 2007 8:41 PM
hockey fan said...
Power play? Only in hockey. Whether or not you agree with the decision, they are doing the job they are paid to do. They don’t require our opinions or votes to make this decision, and if they were the least bit interested, they would have asked for input BEFORE they made the decision. They didn’t. Get it?
April 1, 2007 8:44 PM
feeling silly said...
To I'm still mad . . .
Oh, boy, I got sucked into that one, too. I read something another website earlier today, though, that talked about things to watch for in the media on April Fool's. One of them was "Is it over the top?" When I got to the part about holding graduation at Late Da, I was boiling over, too, thinking, "WHAT?!!". Then I noticed that the date was just above the article, and it reads "April Fool's, 2007", and I thought, "Oh my God! This is COMPLETELY over the top!" I started laughing, and I'm still laughing. They got us. It tells me that they do understand how serious it is, and, hey - it made the front page! If there is no such thing as bad publicity, it will work to call attention to it.
April 1, 2007 8:58 PM
sign it said...
How is the media coverage helping? TV, newspaper, they’re all the same, and the administration isn’t going to budge now that the media is involved – they can’t, they’ll look too silly. Too public, and too controversial, they won’t touch it. I say get the signatures and hope for the best.
April 1, 2007 9:03 PM
lost said...
Abe,
I think there are three ways in: two off Unser and one off Idalia. True, when you get there, traffic is condensed to one road, but they usually open two lanes going in. I don't know how they count four, though.
April 1, 2007 9:06 PM
krypton said...
I can't find anything anywhere that says we can vote on where graduation is held. Can somebody help me understand how we're going to get anyone to allow us to vote?
April 1, 2007 9:16 PM
get with it said...
Get with it,
Thanks, I worded wrong, It is corrected now:
WHAAAAT? said...
Go to:
http://littlejohnnyinriorancho.blogspot.com/
I am very saddened that discrimination is very much a large part of this entire decision.
Spanish speakers, whiners, being rowdy covered all at one time? Yes and the neither the good editor, nor Mr. Herron or anyone else did not bother to clarify this language’s origin or history in this part of the country?
Whaaaat?
The shameless face of bigotry rears its ugly head:
From the Observer
"I agree with the guy on the Ford advertisements speaking in Spanish, and some of the furniture stores do the same. I won't buy from any of them, either. If you want to speak Spanish, move back to Mexico. Also, I have never seen so many whiners about where they're going to have the graduation. If they hadn't acted so rude and out of order last year, maybe they would have listened to them. Also, Ned Cantwell's (columns) are very good."
This is just straight-up prejudice. FYI, amigo, Spanish was spoken in New Mexico long before English. I notice Mr. Herron didn't add his two cents to this rant.
little Johnny got his blog on! said...
little Johnny said...
There are a number of people, both here and in the press, who keep dragging "little Johnny," a graduating senior, along with his family, into this mess. After enduring the callous, condescending remarks, and lack of common courtesy, Little Johnny woke up the other morning and got his blog on!
http://littlejohnnyinriorancho.blogspot.com/
April 1, 2007 9:20 PM
Call Yvette 994-9648 said...
Yes, Call Yvette 994-9648
We have started a Hard Copy paper PETITION and if you would like to sign it, please call me and I will meet you to get it signed.
My number again is 994-9648.
Any other ideas please let me know?
Let me know, because we need to let them know that WE ARE NOT JUST "MAKING NOISE"
WE all know this is a very important issue to our graduates and to all of us involved.
We need to continue to show our support.
April 1, 2007 9:24 PM
Get it? Got it! Good said...
True:
"if they were the least bit interested, they would have asked for input BEFORE they made the decision"
April 1, 2007 9:27 PM
democracy rules said...
We might be able to save some time and energy if we could figure out where to find the language in the Constitution, the City Charter, the Administration policy or any documentation that says we're entitled to vote. Anybody?
April 1, 2007 9:46 PM
Maggie Mae said...
Well, lets make sure we tell everyone we know to sign Yvette's petition. Because she has the hard copy.
PASS IT ON
April 1, 2007 9:59 PM
Carlos said...
This years seniors should not be blamed for last years problems.
Telling people to go back to Mexico and I am a whiner because I think the decision is wrong?
1 way in or 4 ways in, whatever, that place for sure is going to be a mess going and leaving.
Well, we all have our opinions.
I'm being peaceful and encourage everyone to do the same.
April 1, 2007 10:07 PM
democracy rocks said...
A petition signed by parents and families who are not homeowners and/or tax payers may not have much weight, just a thought.
April 1, 2007 10:09 PM
Laté Da said...
Laté Da!
NO THE PIT
April 2, 2007 6:34 AM
for the sake of our children said...
For the sake of our children!
April 2, 2007 6:37 AM
DR. Cleveland, WHAT DID WE DO WRONG? said...
"little Johnny's” new words:
You cannot discriminate against a person for having a large family or for having a large amount of contacts. You cannot discriminate against anyone concerning their age and this decision is doing both!
Sally
DR. Cleveland, WHAT DID WE DO WRONG? said...
"little Johnny's” new words:
“ . . . That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles, and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and HAPPINESS . . . it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security. . .”
Lloyd
ORIGINAL BLOG:
DR. Cleveland, WHAT DID WE DO WRONG? said...
WHAT DID WE DO WRONG?
I’m going to start this comment here and encourage anyone that would like our graduation to return to THE PIT to add on to this comment if you would like:
I started out this comment with a question. If nobody had raised concerns then we would have never been made to feel like “the bad guy”, like we did something wrong, because I see the stress this is causing my parents and my friends and many others. Something is very wrong here if people in the news media are going to make you feel bad. Anonymous people putting down my fellow graduates calling them “little Johnny” and making fun of his “large family”, telling him his parents and all of us were “hypocrites” for questioning the decision and boasting how American they are and we aren’t! Who could be so important in this great big world to design such a “caste system” type of thinking?
I can tell you this Dr. Cleveland they have motivated me TO TRY EVEN HARDER NOW! We know The Pit is still open for business and the Star Center can break your contract. Just like this person so rudely stated what words “little Johnny” would learn I have learned a few myself, “WE HAVE DONE NOTHING WRONG”!
Class of 2007
April 2, 2007 6:51 AM
For the sake of our children! said...
YES, For the sake of our children!
April 2, 2007 7:23 AM
For the sake of our children! said...
YES, For the sake of our children!
April 2, 2007 7:24 AM
Anonymous said...
My daughter Linnea Martinez a Senior at Rio Rancho High started the firstsigned petition and had over 900 signatures to move graduation back to the UNM Pit. She was told to stop and that she could be expelled from school for petitioning and her petitions were taken away. She has backed off from her petition (as I cautioned her) and now she cannot voice her opinion.
Sincerely Frustrated
Nova Shah (novashah@cableone.net) and
Linnea Martinez (monkeybiz2007@hotmail.com)
April 2, 2007 7:25 AM
yaragon said...
Today the seniors did a wonderful thing by putting those flyers out all over the school and by writing on the sidewalks how did they respond to this by cleaning it up I want to encourage you to continue putting the flyers out everyday and continue with the petition and to remind everyone that the school board meeting is April 9 at 5:00 pm anyone that can attend please go have family members friends anyone who wants to support the move to THE PIT go please call me if you know for sure that you are going to attend so we can all get together before that date my number again is 994-9648 or email me at nanee_angel@yahoo.com
April 2, 2007 10:03 AM
SCHOOL BOARD MEETING said...
THE SCHOOL BOARD MEETING
Monday April 9 at 5:00 pm
ANYONE THAT CAN ATTEND PLEASE GO
HAVE FAMILY MEMBERS-FRIENDS-ANYONE
WHO WANTS TO SUPPORT THE MOVE TO THE PIT
PLEASE GO
CALL ME IF YOU KNOW FOR SURE THAT YOU ARE GOING TO ATTEND
SO WE CAN ALL GET TOGETHER BEFORE THAT DATE
MY NUMBER AGAIN IS 994-9648
OR EMAIL ME AT nanee_angel@yahoo.com
Yvette
April 2, 2007 10:15 AM
Sense of humor said...
Late Da! Rhymes with Koom ba ya!
April 2, 2007 10:59 AM
DR. Cleveland, WHAT DID WE DO WRONG? said...
"little Johnny's” new words:
For the sake of the children
DR. Cleveland, WHAT DID WE DO WRONG? said…
"little Johnny's” new words:
You cannot discriminate against a person for having a large family or for having a large amount of contacts. You cannot discriminate against anyone concerning their age and this decision is doing both!
Sally
DR. Cleveland, WHAT DID WE DO WRONG? said...
"little Johnny's” new words:
“ . . . That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles, and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and HAPPINESS . . . it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security. . .”
Lloyd
ORIGINAL BLOG:
DR. Cleveland, WHAT DID WE DO WRONG? said...
WHAT DID WE DO WRONG?
I’m going to start this comment here and encourage anyone that would like our graduation to return to THE PIT to add on to this comment if you would like:
I started out this comment with a question. If nobody had raised concerns then we would have never been made to feel like “the bad guy”, like we did something wrong, because I see the stress this is causing my parents and my friends and many others. Something is very wrong here if people in the news media are going to make you feel bad. Anonymous people putting down my fellow graduates calling them “little Johnny” and making fun of his “large family”, telling him his parents and all of us were “hypocrites” for questioning the decision and boasting how American they are and we aren’t! Who could be so important in this great big world to design such a “caste system” type of thinking?
I can tell you this Dr. Cleveland they have motivated me TO TRY EVEN HARDER NOW! We know The Pit is still open for business and the Star Center can break your contract. Just like this person so rudely stated what words “little Johnny” would learn I have learned a few myself, “WE HAVE DONE NOTHING WRONG”!
Class of 2007
April 2, 2007 11:13 AM
Class of 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010 said...
Class of 2007
(& 2008, 2009, 2010)
HOW MANY GUESTS
ARE PLANNING TO ATTEND YOUR GRADUATION?
IS IT LESS THAN 8?
IS IT MORE THAN 8?
If you said MORE than 8, then you need to sign the petition to move YOUR Graduation ceremony back to THE PIT!
Mon 4/2 - Thu 4/5 keep an eye out for people passing
around the petition at the high school
THE PIT has twice the capacity of the Arena. If all of the previous graduations are an indicator, the Arena will not be large enough until Rio Rancho HS and Dr. Cleveland HS have separate graduations. (not for at least another 4 years!)
PARENTS (and residents of Rio Rancho)-
If you would like to sign the petition, please contact
Yvette @ 994-9648. She will make arrangements with you to sign the petition.
PLEASE HELP in this effort by attending the School board meeting April 9 at 5pm. We need as many people as possible to come support this petition.
April 2, 2007 12:21 PM
SCHOOL BOARD MEETING 4/9 said...
THE SCHOOL BOARD MEETING
Monday April 9 at 5:00 pm
ANYONE THAT CAN ATTEND PLEASE GO
HAVE FAMILY MEMBERS-FRIENDS-ANYONE
WHO WANTS TO SUPPORT THE MOVE TO THE PIT
PLEASE GO
CALL ME IF YOU KNOW FOR SURE THAT YOU ARE GOING TO ATTEND
SO WE CAN ALL GET TOGETHER BEFORE THAT DATE
MY NUMBER AGAIN IS 994-9648
OR EMAIL ME AT nanee_angel@yahoo.com
April 2, 2007 12:45 PM
DR. Cleveland, WHAT DID WE DO WRONG? said...
DR. Cleveland, WHAT DID WE DO WRONG?
"little Johnny's” new words:
"unintended consequence"
Jose
DR. Cleveland, WHAT DID WE DO WRONG? said….
"little Johnny's” new words:
For the sake of the children
DR. Cleveland, WHAT DID WE DO WRONG? said…
"little Johnny's” new words:
You cannot discriminate against a person for having a large family or for having a large amount of contacts. You cannot discriminate against anyone concerning their age and this decision is doing both!
Sally
DR. Cleveland, WHAT DID WE DO WRONG? said...
"little Johnny's” new words:
“ . . . That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles, and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and HAPPINESS . . . it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security. . .”
Lloyd
ORIGINAL BLOG:
DR. Cleveland, WHAT DID WE DO WRONG? said...
WHAT DID WE DO WRONG?
I’m going to start this comment here and encourage anyone that would like our graduation to return to THE PIT to add on to this comment if you would like:
I started out this comment with a question. If nobody had raised concerns then we would have never been made to feel like “the bad guy”, like we did something wrong, because I see the stress this is causing my parents and my friends and many others. Something is very wrong here if people in the news media are going to make you feel bad. Anonymous people putting down my fellow graduates calling them “little Johnny” and making fun of his “large family”, telling him his parents and all of us were “hypocrites” for questioning the decision and boasting how American they are and we aren’t! Who could be so important in this great big world to design such a “caste system” type of thinking?
I can tell you this Dr. Cleveland they have motivated me TO TRY EVEN HARDER NOW! We know The Pit is still open for business and the Star Center can break your contract. Just like this person so rudely stated what words “little Johnny” would learn I have learned a few myself, “WE HAVE DONE NOTHING WRONG”!
Class of 2007
April 2, 2007 4:02 PM
To the "ranter" said...
Our Graduate has three (3) generations of over 50 relatives, including his parents and two (2) Brothers that Graduated at “The Pit”.
All of those generations no longer live in NM, but we are tight group.
We participate in Family Reunions and the turnout is huge.
Someone already noted not to penalize large families and this is true.
We need a lot more then six (6) tickets, sorry.
We adhere to the philosophy go forth and multiply, we did and we do.
Now we have an “owned by the casino/center hockey rink” venue to look forward to that is just too small.
We are talking in circles here and I have read and heard enough evidence to confirm the school’s decision is totally wrong and unfair.
Sorry, this inappropriate decision and how it is being forced upon everyone is way, way out of line.
Quoting others here, “we have rights”, “this is America”, hell someone submitted the Declaration of Independence for goodness sake!?
But, they are right!
Because there was no input from everyone, no vote and no Democracy, more like hypocrisy and dictatorship!
There are some classic rebuttals here I have really enjoyed reading them, they all sing the same song when all is said and done.
In support of GO BACK TO THE PIT.
You are the “hypocrite” and so are those you feel you have to protect.
Go "little Johnny", you GO!!
April 2, 2007 5:04 PM
My Graduation 2007 said...
My Graduation 2007
Class Ring - $400 (In Albuquerque)
Announcements/Cap & Gown - $200 (In Albuquerque)
Invitations - $150 (In Albuquerque)
Graduation pictures - $400 (In Albuquerque)
8 family members flying in - $3,600
Graduation party - $2,000
Having my entire family who encouraged me for the last 13 years celebrate with me at
THE PIT.....
PRICELESS!!!
April 2, 2007 5:39 PM
DR. Cleveland, WHAT DID WE DO WRONG? said...
"little Johnny's” new words:
“…Our fathers brought forth on this continent a new nation, conceived in liberty and dedicated to the proposition that all men are created equal”
Rachel
DR. Cleveland, WHAT DID WE DO WRONG? said….
"little Johnny's” new words:
"unintended consequence"
Jose
DR. Cleveland, WHAT DID WE DO WRONG? said….
"little Johnny's” new words:
For the sake of the children
DR. Cleveland, WHAT DID WE DO WRONG? said…
"little Johnny's” new words:
You cannot discriminate against a person for having a large family or for having a large amount of contacts. You cannot discriminate against anyone concerning their age and this decision is doing both!
Sally
DR. Cleveland, WHAT DID WE DO WRONG? said...
"little Johnny's” new words:
“ . . . That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles, and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and HAPPINESS . . . it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security. . .”
Lloyd
ORIGINAL BLOG:
DR. Cleveland, WHAT DID WE DO WRONG? said...
WHAT DID WE DO WRONG?
I’m going to start this comment here and encourage anyone that would like our graduation to return to THE PIT to add on to this comment if you would like:
I started out this comment with a question. If nobody had raised concerns then we would have never been made to feel like “the bad guy”, like we did something wrong, because I see the stress this is causing my parents and my friends and many others. Something is very wrong here if people in the news media are going to make you feel bad. Anonymous people putting down my fellow graduates calling them “little Johnny” and making fun of his “large family”, telling him his parents and all of us were “hypocrites” for questioning the decision and boasting how American they are and we aren’t! Who could be so important in this great big world to design such a “caste system” type of thinking?
I can tell you this Dr. Cleveland they have motivated me TO TRY EVEN HARDER NOW! We know The Pit is still open for business and the Star Center can break your contract. Just like this person so rudely stated what words “little Johnny” would learn I have learned a few myself, “WE HAVE DONE NOTHING WRONG”!
Class of 2007
April 2, 2007 6:22 PM
RE: Mike and Genie Ryan said...
Copy and paste this info below into your browser
You will reach another web log blog titled – “What's Wrong With This Picture?”
Scroll down to the 4TH post titled - Diane Velasco (J-school Piece revised)
Then read about Mr. Mike Ryan, Mike and Genie Ryan are the ones that put us down with their story titled – “Graduation Gripes? Get Over It” here they told us how to raise our children and all about (their) priorities and could not understand why we were still “griping”. Mike, someone already said, “those that fail to learn the lessons of history are doomed to repeat them”. I’d like to hear your side of story before I prejudge you unlike how you and the Mrs. prejudged us in your story:
http://mgbralley-whatswrongwiththispicture.blogspot.com/2006_09_01_mgb
ralley-whatswrongwiththispicture_archive.html
Diane Velasco - A local journalist, as enthused about the use of new technology as she was dismayed by the newsprint world….,
“The (Albuquerque) Journal is the Jurassic Park of journalism,” said Diane Velasco.
“The choice was clear: leave or fossilize," she said. “Journalism has lost its soul.”
She explained that the Journal was using late 1980s computers that could do few things that current technology allows. She resigned on July 4, 2005, in a patriotic act and political gesture reminiscing on the revolutionary press of the mid 1770’s.
Velasco graduated from the University of New Mexico in 1996 with a journalism degree.
She went to work for Publisher Mike Ryan at the Rio Rancho Observer.
As managing editor, and using her business education, she turned a 3 percent loss into a 17 percent profit after only two months on the job.
She did a series of investigative reports on the Rio Rancho School District and exposed 19 fire code violations in the newly built high school, funded by Intel.
She also reported that a high school teacher had raped six students and one teacher.
Velasco infuriated school officials to the point they insisted that any question she had must be forwarded in writing.
Her publisher (Ryan) thought it was OK for school officials to make such a request. (!?)
She then became involved in a First Amendment battle with the assistance of Bob Johnson of the Federation for Open Government and Attorney Bill Dixon.
On three occasions, (Mike) Ryan turned over Velasco’s interview notes to citizens and to “the fat cat millionaires, Don Chalmers and others,” Velasco said.
That she said destroyed the trust that reporters have to develop with sources, especially when the issues are about the sources’ bosses.
Velasco wanted to create a business with a social mission. The Citizen Media Group is more than just an online newspaper; it is also a foundation dedicated to improving the understanding of journalism.
For all that Velasco finds wrong with newspapers, she has tightened traditional thinking about journalistic practices.
Under The Citizen’s policies, “We will use confidential sources whenever necessary to bring important information to the public, and will protect our right to do so to the fullest extent of Constitutional law,” She said.
April 2, 2007 7:57 PM
To The Observer said...
Attn: The Observer,
Your joke was
"underhanded and nasty, at best"
April 2, 2007 9:41 PM
To The Observer said...
Attn: The Observer,
Your joke was
"underhanded and nasty, at best"
BACK TO THE PIT
Darlene
April 2, 2007 9:52 PM
To The Observer said...
Attn: The Observer,
Your joke was
"underhanded and nasty, at best"
BACK TO THE PIT
Lori
April 2, 2007 9:53 PM
To The Observer said...
Attn: The Observer,
Your joke was
"underhanded and nasty, at best"
BACK TO THE PIT
Dennis
April 2, 2007 9:55 PM
TO THE OBSERVER said...
Attn: The Observer,
Your joke was
"underhanded and nasty, at best"
BACK TO THE PIT
Josephine
April 2, 2007 9:56 PM
TO THE OBSERVER said...
Attn: The Observer,
Your joke was
"underhanded and nasty, at best"
BACK TO THE PIT
Cristina
April 2, 2007 9:59 PM
TO THE OBSERVER said...
Attn: The Observer,
Your joke was
"underhanded and nasty, at best"
BACK TO THE PIT
Deb
April 2, 2007 10:01 PM
TO THE OBSERVER said...
Attn: The Observer,
Your joke was
"underhanded and nasty, at best"
BACK TO THE PIT
FLORENCE
April 2, 2007 10:03 PM
TO THE OBSERVER said...
Attn: The Observer,
Your joke was
"underhanded and nasty, at best"
BACK TO THE PIT
Michelle
April 2, 2007 10:04 PM
TO THE OBSERVER said...
Attn: The Observer,
Your joke was
"underhanded and nasty, at best"
BACK TO THE PIT
Kay
April 2, 2007 10:05 PM
Yes RE: Mike and Genie Ryan said...
Copy and paste this info below into your browser
You will reach another web log blog titled – “What's Wrong With This Picture?”
Scroll down to the 4TH post titled - Diane Velasco (J-school Piece revised)
Then read about Mr. Mike Ryan, Mike and Genie Ryan are the ones that put us down with their story titled – “Graduation Gripes? Get Over It” here they told us how to raise our children and all about (their) priorities and could not understand why we were still “griping”. Mike, someone already said, “those that fail to learn the lessons of history are doomed to repeat them”. I’d like to hear your side of story before I prejudge you unlike how you and the Mrs. prejudged us in your story:
http://mgbralley-whatswrongwiththispicture.blogspot.com/2006_09_01_mgb
ralley-whatswrongwiththispicture_archive.html
Diane Velasco - A local journalist, as enthused about the use of new technology as she was dismayed by the newsprint world….,
“The (Albuquerque) Journal is the Jurassic Park of journalism,” said Diane Velasco.
“The choice was clear: leave or fossilize," she said. “Journalism has lost its soul.”
She explained that the Journal was using late 1980s computers that could do few things that current technology allows. She resigned on July 4, 2005, in a patriotic act and political gesture reminiscing on the revolutionary press of the mid 1770’s.
Velasco graduated from the University of New Mexico in 1996 with a journalism degree.
She went to work for Publisher Mike Ryan at the Rio Rancho Observer.
As managing editor, and using her business education, she turned a 3 percent loss into a 17 percent profit after only two months on the job.
She did a series of investigative reports on the Rio Rancho School District and exposed 19 fire code violations in the newly built high school, funded by Intel.
She also reported that a high school teacher had raped six students and one teacher.
Velasco infuriated school officials to the point they insisted that any question she had must be forwarded in writing.
Her publisher (Ryan) thought it was OK for school officials to make such a request. (!?)
She then became involved in a First Amendment battle with the assistance of Bob Johnson of the Federation for Open Government and Attorney Bill Dixon.
On three occasions, (Mike) Ryan turned over Velasco’s interview notes to citizens and to “the fat cat millionaires, Don Chalmers and others,” Velasco said.
That she said destroyed the trust that reporters have to develop with sources, especially when the issues are about the sources’ bosses.
Velasco wanted to create a business with a social mission. The Citizen Media Group is more than just an online newspaper; it is also a foundation dedicated to improving the understanding of journalism.
For all that Velasco finds wrong with newspapers, she has tightened traditional thinking about journalistic practices.
Under The Citizen’s policies, “We will use confidential sources whenever necessary to bring important information to the public, and will protect our right to do so to the fullest extent of Constitutional law,” She said.
April 2, 2007 10:08 PM
TO THE OBSERVER said...
Attn: The Observer,
Your joke was
"underhanded and nasty, at best"
BACK TO THE PIT
Senior 2007
April 2, 2007 10:09 PM
OVER THE NEXT 4 YEARS! said...
REMEMBER THIS DECISION WILL AFFECT ALL GRADUATING SENIORS, THEIR FAMILIES AND LOVED ONES OVER THE NEXT 4 YEARS OR UNTIL THE NEW SCHOOL IS OPEN!
ATTENTION: SENIORS, PARENTS, GUARDIANS, FAMILIES, RELATIVES, STUDENTS AND CONCERNED PERSONS
GREAT NEWS!!
THE PIT IS STILL AVAILABLE ON MAY 19TH
AND THEY WILL NOT BE BOOKING THAT TIME AND DATE FOR ANYONE
IT IS STILL OPEN!!!
We are a group of families that would like to have the Class of 2007 Graduation returned to "THE PIT."
At minimum, let’s put this matter to a fair vote.
We are respectfully asking Dr. Sue Cleveland to make the decision to return to "THE PIT."
RRPS has broken contracts before and can break this contract now and go "BACK TO THE PIT."
We need all persons that want the Graduation to be returned to "THE PIT" to let your voice be heard.
In an unprecedented administrative decision, input was NOT allowed, requested or regarded by everyone affected. Only certain voices were heard.
This last minute decision has affected all of the graduating Seniors for 2007, 2008, 2009 and 2010 along with their families and loved ones.
Due to this last minute decision over 10,000 people will not be able to attend the 2007 graduation.
We have heard all the reasons and explanations given by the administration and strongly feel they do not outweigh the fact that a fair process did not occur in the first place concerning this matter.
Please go online now. We have every right to be heard. "It’s not over till it’s over."
BACK TO THE PIT
FAMILY AND FRIENDS OF RIO RANCHO HIGH SCHOOL GRADUATES DISCUSSION GROUP
Please visit the web log, copy and paste this into your browser
http://rioranchogradsunite.blogspot.com/
You can also email: cmj2nc@aol.com if you have any problems posting comments on the blog, thank you.
April 3, 2007 6:49 AM
URGENT!!! said...
"REMEMBER THIS DECISION WILL AFFECT ALL GRADUATING SENIORS, THEIR FAMILIES AND LOVED ONES OVER THE NEXT 4 YEARS OR UNTIL THE NEW SCHOOL IS OPEN!"
YES, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010 WILL ALL BE AFFECTED!
THAT IS EASILY OVER 40,000 PEOPLE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ATTEND BUT WON'T BE ALLOWED!
BECAUSE EVERY YEAR WILL BE BIGGER THEN THE PREVIOUS YEAR!
Make sure you PASS this on!
Call Yvette 994-9648
Go to the School Board meeting
Monday April 9th at 5 PM
Ivan
April 3, 2007 7:02 AM
Anonymous said...
I AM GOING TO THE COURT HOUSE ON 4/4 TO FILE A CIVAL SUIT AGINST THE SCHOOL AND THE BOARD. I HAVE BEEN STRESSED OUT ENOUGH ABOUT ALL THAT IS GOING ON AND THE LOSS OF MONEY TIME AND EFFORT I HAVE PUT INTO MY CHILD. IT IS NOT ONLY MYSELF THAT IS STRESSED OUT BUT MY ENTIRE FAMILY IS ALSO HAVING A HARD TIME WE TRYING TO DECIDE WHO GETS TO GO I ONLY HAVE 1 TICKET TO GIVE OUT AND THAT IS TRULY UNFAIR. WE DONT NEED A LAWYER OR ATTORNYS FOR THIS BUT IT WOULD BE NICE. BUT TO FILE A CIVIL SUIT JUST GO TO THE COURT HOUSE
April 3, 2007 7:44 AM
Anonymous said...
IF YOU FEEL YOU HAVE BEEN TREATED UNFAIR ABOUT THE SO CALLED VOTE IN MOVING TO THE SANTA ANA CENTER I ENCOURAGE YOU TO FILE A CIVIL SUITE ALSO
April 3, 2007 7:46 AM
Civil Suit said...
Count me in on the civil suit! I’m sick and tired, literally sick over the newspaper’s attitude towards everyone that is questioning this discriminatory decision. Dr. Cleveland is hiding, the board is pointing the finger at the administration, the board president is rude, they did not let everyone provide input, no vote was allowed, 06 was rowdy and 07 gets the punishment, and like the other comment every class from here on out gets punished, plans were already made but Dr. Cleveland does not care! If VonAcken, VonDuncan, VonHerron, whatever the right name is, I don’t know, were booed by the seniors last year, they need to check out why?
Esther G.
April 3, 2007 8:08 AM
ditto Civil Suit said...
Count me in on the civil suit! I’m sick and tired, literally sick over the newspaper’s attitude towards everyone that is questioning this discriminatory decision. Dr. Cleveland is hiding, the board is pointing the finger at the administration, the board president is rude, they did not let everyone provide input, no vote was allowed, 06 was rowdy and 07 gets the punishment, and like the other comment every class from here on out gets punished, plans were already made but Dr. Cleveland does not care! If VonAcken, VonDuncan, VonHerron, whatever the right name is, I don’t know, were booed by the seniors last year, they need to check out why?
Mo
April 3, 2007 8:37 AM
civil suit or sue, sue cleveland said...
I’ve read different people questioning facts and credibility watch out what you write or say etc be nice or don’t be nice don’t do this don’t do that its over and so on and so forth well sports fans “they” have painted us into a corner they are not going to change they are not going to be fair they are not going to let anyone vote get your attorney or file a civil suit
Stan the Man
April 3, 2007 9:00 AM
Petition said...
Mario
April 3, 2007 1:11 PM
SCHOOL BOARD MEETING 4/9 said...
THE SCHOOL BOARD MEETING
Monday April 9 at 5:00 pm
ANYONE THAT CAN ATTEND PLEASE GO
HAVE FAMILY MEMBERS-FRIENDS-ANYONE
WHO WANTS TO SUPPORT THE MOVE TO THE PIT
PLEASE GO
CALL ME IF YOU KNOW FOR SURE THAT YOU ARE GOING TO ATTEND
SO WE CAN ALL GET TOGETHER BEFORE THAT DATE
MY NUMBER AGAIN IS 994-9648
OR EMAIL ME AT nanee_angel@yahoo.com
April 3, 2007 1:22 PM
Back to The Pit said...
Ellen
April 3, 2007 1:31 PM
To Sue Cleveland said...
We will have 6 family members coming from out of town. I'm not apologizing to ANYONE and don’t give damn what those clowns in the newspaper are saying. We are a BIG family and damn proud or it! As for me and my house we disagree with Dr. Cleveland. We request an inquiry to find out why the principal was booed with such fervor. We liked to see the graduation in Rio Rancho but only when the next school has seniors and not before.
Cruz
April 3, 2007 4:33 PM
To Sue Cleveland said...
We all agree and want to go back to The Pit.
What really bothers and concerns me is the open blatant disregard they have for everyone.
Dr. Sue Cleveland is being misled.
What is that actual breakdown culturally of this graduating class, 35 to 40% percent Hispanic?
How is it that they have no concern with all the stress and adversity they have caused to so many, to thousands?
Has the school staff had diversity and sensitivity training?
We cannot give up.
Their decision is discrimination!
It is very obvious politics, power and money are very much involved.
VonAcken was booed, after what I’ve seen it is not hard to see why.
Rose
April 3, 2007 5:34 PM
COURAGE said...
GOD grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change;
COURAGE to change the things I can;
and WISDOM to know the difference.
April 3, 2007 5:47 PM
THE PIT IS RANKED # 13 IN THE WORLD!!! said...
THE PIT IS RANKED # 13 IN THE WORLD!!!
Hey Dr. Cleveland, Sports Illustrated said:
SI's Top 20 Venues of the 20th Century
1 Yankee Stadium
2 Augusta National
3 Michie Stadium
4 Cameron Indoor Stadium
5 Bislett Stadium
6 Wrigley Field
7 Roland Garros
8 Lambeau Field
9 Fenway Park
10 Saratoga Race Course
11 Pebble Beach
12 Wembley Stadium
13 THE PIT
14 Boston Marathon Course
15 Camden Yards
16 Lamade Stadium
17 Daytona International Speedway
18 Notre Dame Stadium
19 St. Andrews
20 Rose Bowl
Others mentioned in no particular order,
BUT TAKE A LOOK AT THESE OTHER NAMES!:
Boston Garden
Taylor Field
Yost Ice Arena
Indianapolis Motor Speedway
Memorial Stadium
The Melbourne Cricket Ground
The Palestra
Husky Stadium
The Montreal Forum
Michigan Stadium
Madison Square Garden
Patterson Field
The Maracana Stadium
Lord's cricket ground
The San Siro
Wimbledon
Monte Carlo
LSU Tiger Stadium
Beaver Stadium
Allen Fieldhouse
Jordan-Hare Stadium
The Forum
Mile High Stadium
Tiger Stadium
April 3, 2007 6:49 PM
To Dr. Cleveland said...
Our family agrees with the Petition,
Enrique
April 3, 2007 8:06 PM
To Dr. Cleveland said...
In support of the Petition to return the graduation.
Joel
April 3, 2007 8:15 PM
To Dr. Cleveland said...
This decision is affecting over 40,000 that can’t attend over the next four years.
10,000 can’t go to the graduation this year.
Take it back.
Donnie
April 3, 2007 8:16 PM
To Dr. Cleveland said...
Go back to the Pit.
Lizzie
April 3, 2007 8:16 PM
To Dr. Cleveland said...
Foul -Dr. Cleveland!
Aaron
April 3, 2007 8:17 PM
To Dr. Cleveland said...
Hello NO we won’t go!!!
Kelly
April 3, 2007 8:17 PM
To Dr. Cleveland said...
Dr. Cleveland,
Read the comments and change this back.
Veronica
April 3, 2007 8:18 PM
To Dr. Cleveland said...
Dr. Cleveland,
For the sake of our children!
Kathleen
April 3, 2007 8:19 PM
To Dr. Cleveland said...
To RRPS,
This has discrimination written all over it.
Teddy
April 3, 2007 8:19 PM
To Dr. Cleveland said...
Why is this so important?
The decision - not only affects this years graduates, families and loved ones, it also will affect all graduates, families and loved ones for 2008, 2009 and 2010 and until the new school has graduating seniors!
Consider the numbers of people affected!
Carla
April 3, 2007 8:28 PM
To Dr. Cleveland said...
Let's GO
Tish
April 3, 2007 8:31 PM
For the sake of our children! said...
For the sake of our children!
Marcus
April 3, 2007 8:36 PM
For the sake of our children! said...
For the sake of our children!
Eloy
April 3, 2007 8:36 PM
For the sake of our children! said...
For the sake of our children!
Jordan
April 3, 2007 8:37 PM
For the sake of our children! said...
Dr. Cleveland,
For the sake of our children!
April 3, 2007 8:38 PM
Anonymous said...
Dr. Cleveland,
For the sake of our children!
April 3, 2007 8:38 PM
For the sake of our children! said...
Dr. Cleveland,
For the sake of our children!
Lisa
April 3, 2007 8:38 PM
For the sake of our children! said...
Dr. Cleveland,
For the sake of our children!
Mary
April 3, 2007 8:39 PM
I LIKE THIS COMMENT said...
My Graduation 2007
Class Ring - $400 (In Albuquerque)
Announcements/Cap & Gown - $200 (In Albuquerque)
Invitations - $150 (In Albuquerque)
Graduation pictures - $400 (In Albuquerque)
8 family members flying in - $3,600
Graduation party - $2,000
Having my entire family who encouraged me for the last 13 years celebrate with me at
THE PIT.....
PRICELESS!!!
April 3, 2007 8:54 PM
We are not enemies said...
~ We are not enemies,
But friends.
We must not be enemies.
Though passion may have strained
It must not break our bonds of affection.
The mystic chords of memory . . .
. . . Will yet swell
When again touched,
As surely they will be,
By the better Angels of our Nature ~
April 3, 2007 8:56 PM
Anonymous said...
back to the pit
April 4, 2007 6:27 AM
SCHOOL BOARD MEETING 4/9 said...
Call Yvette 994-9648
THE SCHOOL BOARD MEETING
Monday April 9 at 5:00 pm
ANYONE THAT CAN ATTEND PLEASE GO
HAVE FAMILY MEMBERS-FRIENDS-ANYONE
WHO WANTS TO SUPPORT THE MOVE TO THE PIT
PLEASE GO
CALL ME IF YOU KNOW FOR SURE THAT YOU ARE GOING TO ATTEND
SO WE CAN ALL GET TOGETHER BEFORE THAT DATE
MY NUMBER AGAIN IS 994-9648
OR EMAIL ME AT nanee_angel@yahoo.com
April 4, 2007 6:29 AM
Gidge said...
Thanks to all the students and parents who have been working so hard to fight this injustice! Special Thanks to Yvette! Graduation is a huge accomplishment and what better way to share such a special moment than to have your friends and family THERE with you. It's been done that way for generations and the Pit has provided that special opportunity for our graduates all these years. The school board somehow missed that very important point when making their decision. They should have done their homework BEFORE a decision like this was made. They need to back up and ask every graduate what they want, and if the majority want it at the Pit, they need to fix their mistake and move it back. They still have plenty of time. It needs to be resolved the right way, right away!
Gidget Anaya
April 4, 2007 8:05 AM
To Dr. Cleveland said...
Hello Ema Dreher (Dr. Clevelands's secretary),
We have been writing you since 3/14.
Please be respectfully advised this is easily our 7th request to Dr. Cleveland, we asked back on 3/14 to speak to Dr. Cleveland and for these questions to be answered. We already know what anyone below her is going to say, so we have already tried that avenue that was suggested. We consider this a stall tactic at this time. We don't need to hear from your other staff or anyone at the High School. We don't need the "lock-step" comment that is being given to other families and the media. We already know how disrespectful, the school board president has been to others. We want Dr. Cleveland please, thank you. We are very aware of other persons that have asked to speak with her on other matters, so we know that we can request to speak to her. We will be respectful but we are becoming agitated with being handed off to some one else, we want Dr. Cleveland, thank you.
Hello Ema Dreher (Dr. Clevelands's secretary),
Questions, please answer them individually, also, please note that there are multiple questions within the same number so don't miss those questions, thank you.
TIME SENSITIVE:
34. How soon can we speak directly to Dr. Cleveland on this matter, we would like to know her next available appointment, we are asking for an appointment, may I have more then one time frame as I will have to take time off for this?
1. Can a person(s) bring this matter to the board's attention again at the next or another board meeting and if not why not?
2. What is the process to ask for a special School Board meeting and if not why not?
3. As parents, what are our legal rights regarding the way this matter was handled?
4. How do we get a copy of our rights?
5. Can we speak to the school's attorney and if so whom would we contact?
6. It is our understanding this matter/decision was never tabled, voted on or decided by the School Board, who then by name(s) made this decision?
7. Per your response the School Board has not ruled or voted on the public comment on 3/12?
8. Regarding the contract, was there a contract with "The Pit"? "The Pit": Is in the senior agenda book, it was stated by Mr. VonAncken at senior meetings, it is on RRPS Website, it will STILL be on the announcements from Jostens? Prior to March 07 RRPS had a written or verbal contract with "The Pit", otherwise none of this would be accurate?
9. Dr. Cleveland or Mr. VonAncken is quoted as stating "many" persons wanted this changed from "The Pit" how many is "many"?
10. Does Dr. Cleveland and the board all realize that there are "many" more that want this at "The Pit"? That is a fact.
11. Dr. Cleveland in the media is quoted as saying that she wants the money spent in Rio Rancho, is she aware that Jostens in not in Rio Rancho and neither is Kim Jews? And a lot more then $8,000 is being spent there with Jostens and Kim Jews. Does she realize with all the accessories, pictures etc. that easily $500,000 give or take a few, will be spent in Albuquerque, just do the math per the cost involved? To say students don't have to go to these businesses is true, but fact is "many" went to them, we did.
12. Exactly how much money was quote "saved", because "The Pit" was $7,000 and the Star location is $6,300. Is Dr. Cleveland aware that each seat at the Star location costs more the each seat at "The Pit"? Is she aware we are paying more for less?
13. How many students are graduating, we have been told 770?
14. How many seats will be available we have been told 4,500?
15. Mr. VonAncken stated that he will have 1,000 extra tickets is that true?
16. Does that mean the location is being expanded to 5,500? We have been told that the max will be 4,500, then no one will have an extra 1,000 tickets?
17. Is Dr. Cleveland aware "The Pit" will hold 15,000 for this graduation and that is about how many came last year? They had to allow people to sit in the closed section so many people came.
18. Does Dr. Cleveland realize that this new location will only hold 4,500 persons and that 6 times 750 is 4,500, that would me over 10,000+ persons that would have normally come to this graduation, the proof is the previous year's numbers as well as the numbers that turned out for the APS graduations, so these figures/estimates are not manufactured? And does she know all this means tickets will be scarce? Does she realize no matter even when we all call Mr. VonAncken for tickets he will have a very limited amount or no tickets at all?
19. Does Dr. Cleveland realize that the process to pass out any extra tickets is unfair, regardless of what other districts have done I have had first hand experience with some of the other district's method, it is unfair? Does she realize even now, the persons with the biggest network of friends will be able to secure tickets at a better advantage then the persons that do not have a large network of friends? Seniors are supposed to secure their own tickets from other seniors, this what was told to Rod Green of KOAT, does she realize the stress, time and energy that is being spent on this? Shouldn't seniors be concentrating on other matters? Does she realize along with her staff that there are other discounted variables that come into play here, mostly leading to an unfair process? Persons with the right connections will have a better chance, "not what you know, its who you know", that happens every year in other districts? "The squeaky wheel gets the grease". Simply, in theory sounds ok, but the process is never fair.
18. Does Dr. Cleveland realize some persons are offering to sell their tickets as this has created a "scalping" situation?
19. For arguments sake, lets say 50 percent are not being allowed to come, Dr. Cleveland can't see how serious that is? That discounts a whole bunch of people that would have come?
20. So whether it is 50% or 75% not being allowed to celebrate and actually see the graduation, does Dr. Cleveland in her ability to be fair, see how much stress this is placing on families? Is she aware our state is among the highest in the country for dropouts and suicides!?
21. Is this the largest Rio Rancho graduating class ever?
22. Does Dr. Cleveland see how extremely unfair this late notice is to everyone involved especially because plans were already made, money spent?
23. Does Dr. Cleveland realize the Jostens announcements will still have "The Pit" on it and this will be tacky?
24. Does Dr. Cleveland realize that parents will have to put their own insert in the announcement in order to un-confuse the recipient? That is true there will be two inserts now, one from Jostens and one from the parents. If the parents choose not to add their own insert it will be that much more confusing.
25. Does Dr. Cleveland realize that this will now cause us to cancel that order and re-order with someone else, does she realize that this is time consuming and has interrupted lives, it has ours?
26. Who is paying for Jostens' insert? We heard Jostens is "eating" the cost? We were told by Mr. Duncan that he was paying for it "out of his own pocket"? Which story is the truth?
27. What about the real crux of this matter in which last years graduation got rowdy, does Dr. Cleveland understand this year’s class is being penalized?
28. The administration advised the media that "all of the concerns were taken into consideration", does Dr. Cleveland realize that the not ALL the concerns were considered before the decision was made and that if we really consider everything, I mean everything, this entire process was very unfair?
29. Does Dr. Cleveland realize not all parents know about this change yet? Fact, we never received a letter we happened to catch it on the news? This is far from over. Contract or no contract this is not over.
30. Why can't we have a vote with all parents, guardians and seniors now? We can do it now and put this all to rest, why not, is there too much politics involved regarding this?
31. Why didn't we have a vote and input from EVERYONE in the first place? Certain persons complained as you stated and the matter was set in stone without everyone's input, yes? Does she not see how unfair that is?
32. If you are going to hold onto the contract explanation that won't hold water, they know they are going to get your business down the road anyway? If not, what will be the cost if you break your contract with them? Hasn't the district broken other contracts for other matters before? Go back to "The Pit", could you charge $1.00 or .75 cents a body, look how much you would save? Not only would you payoff "The Pit" and security, you would have enough for next year too?
33. Each School Board member is sworn in by a judge and their oath of service maintains they must uphold the Constitution of the United States as well as the school's, isn't this a direct violation of "due process", fair process, or any equal and "good faith" standards that adhere to our Constitution and what they were founded on? I have personally heard that Dr. Cleveland is "fair" and we are absolutely counting on that in this matter.
34. How soon can we speak directly to Dr. Cleveland on this matter, we would like to know her next available appointment, we are asking for an appointment, may I have more then one time frame as I will have to take time off for this?
Thank you again
April 4, 2007 8:32 AM
DO YOUR HOMEWORK RRPS! said...
How many times have our seniors heard this in their lifetime,
"Do your homework"?
"They should have done their homework BEFORE a decision like this was made. They need to back up and ask every graduate what they want, and if the majority want it at the Pit, they need to fix their mistake and move it back. They still have plenty of time. It needs to be resolved the right way, right away!"
Ruben
April 4, 2007 8:36 AM
Gidget Anaya said...
Gidget Anaya,
What is your email address?
April 4, 2007 9:00 AM
Carmela Rael said...
My husband, son and I would like to add our signatures to the petition. My nephew is graduating and I would be really disappointed if we couldn't be there to see it in person, not on TV.
Carmela Rael
cbrael@msn.com
Patrick Rael
prrael@msn.com
Jered Cervantes
jered2011@msn.com
April 4, 2007 10:32 AM
TO DR. CLEVELAND said...
RRPS,
Your decision is discrimination! To the Pit!
Zeke
April 4, 2007 11:48 AM
Gidge said...
gidget_anaya@netzero.net
April 4, 2007 12:15 PM
YARAGON said...
WE WANT EVERYONE TO KNOW THAT THIS IS STILL GOING VERY STRONG AND DONT WANT YOU TO THINK THIS IS OVER IT SEEMS SOME OF YOU ARE GETTING DISCOURAGED AND THINK THAT THIS IS A DONE DEAL BUT IT IS NOT PLEASE MAKE SURE TO SIGN THE PETITION GOING AROUND SCHOOL AND IF YOU DO NOT WANT TO DO IT AT SCHOOL CALL ME AND I WILL MEET YOU SOME WHERE ELSE TO DO IT AGAIN REMEMBER THEY WANT YOU TO THINK IT IS DOING NO GOOD TO CONTINUE TO FIGHT BUT WE STILL HAVE A CHANCE AND REMEMBER THAT THE SCHOOL BOARD MEETING IS ON MONDAY AND WE NEED ALL THE SUPPORT WE CAN GET IT IS AT 5 PM ON MONDAY THE 9 TH AT THE RIO RANCHO DISTRICT OFFICE IF YOU NEED DIRECTIONS CALL ME MY NUMBER AGAIN IS 994-9648 OR EMAIL ME A nanee_angel@yahoo.com WE ARE ALSO LOOKING FOR ANYONE WHO WANTS TO HELP US THIS WEEKEND FOR MORE INFO CALL ONCE AGAIN WE WANT THE PIT!
April 4, 2007 12:31 PM
Anonymous said...
Why the resistance to moving graduation to the Pit to accommodate the students / parents wishes? The people paying into the school system have spoken, just like the people paying in to any $$$ reaped by the school board have spoken. Listen to your constituents!
April 4, 2007 2:22 PM
Constituents! said...
Great comment!
Reminds me:
"Is you is or is you ain't my 'constituents'!"
Marie
April 4, 2007 2:28 PM
Harley said...
Back to the Pit
April 4, 2007 5:18 PM
Seniors said...
No to to the Star Center
April 4, 2007 6:05 PM
Hate said...
Regarding bad press about anyone speaking out against this decision:
Hate speech is a controversial term for speech intended to degrade, intimidate, or incite violence or prejudicial action against a person or group of people based on their race, gender, age, ethnicity, nationality, religion, sexual orientation, gender identity, disability, language ability, moral or political views, socioeconomic class, occupation or appearance (such as height, weight, and hair color). The term covers written as well as oral communication and some forms of behaviors in a public setting. It is also sometimes called antilocution and is the first point on Allport's scale which measures prejudice in a society.
April 4, 2007 6:12 PM
To Dr. Cleveland said...
I'm very sorry about the problems from last year's graduation but this just proves you have something VERY WRONG going on at the high school. I’m NOT surprised that the administration was booed last year after you consider this decision you imposed.
Investigate why the principal was booed but don’t punish our Seniors for last year’s problem.
Rita
April 4, 2007 6:16 PM
“victims of political posturing” said...
The “Victims of political posturing” would like to return to THE PIT!
April 4, 2007 6:31 PM
26 or 2,600 or 26,000 said...
We want the graduation at the Pit!
April 4, 2007 8:28 PM
26 signed said...
Frank,
How many people signed the Declaration of Independence?
Jeff
April 4, 2007 8:57 PM
26 signed said...
Jeff,
I'm not really sure, I heard 26 that signed were Attorney's.
Frank
April 4, 2007 8:59 PM
26 signed said...
True,
26 were Attorney's
Sue
April 4, 2007 9:00 PM
26 or 2,600 or 26,000 or 260,000 or 260,000,000 said...
We want the graduation at the Pit!
Truly amazing the impact 26 signatures have had on the world!
Jim
April 4, 2007 9:06 PM
the price they paid said...
"The Fifty Six Men who Signed
the Declaration of Independence
Have you ever wondered what happened to the fifty-six men who signed the Declaration of Independence? Five signers were captured by the British as traitors, and tortured before they died. Twelve had their homes ransacked and burned. Two lost their sons serving in the Revolutionary Army; another had two sons captured. Nine of the fixity six fought and died from wounds or hardships of the Revolutionary War. They signed and they pledged their lives, their fortunes, and their sacred honor.
What kind of men were they?
Twenty-six were lawyers and jurists. Eleven were merchants, nine were farmers and large plantation owners; men of means, well educated. But they signed the Declaration of Independence knowing full well death would be the cost if captured. Carter Braxton of Virginia, a wealthy planter and trader, saw his ships swept from the seas by the British Navy. He sold his home and properties to pay his debts, and died in rags.
Thomas McKean was so hounded by the British that he was forced to move his family almost constantly. He served in the Congress without pay, and his family was kept in hiding. His possessions were taken from him, and poverty was his reward.
Vandals or soldiers looted the properties of Dillery, Hall, Clymer, Walton, Gwinnett, Heyward, Ruttledge, and Middleton.
At the battle of Yorktown, Thomas Nelson Jr. noted that the British General Cornwallis had taken over the Nelson home for his headquarters. He quietly urged General George Washington to open fire. The home was destroyed, and Nelson died bankrupt.
Francis Lewis had his home and properties destroyed. The enemy jailed his wife, and she died within a few months.
John Hart was driven from his wife's bedside as she was dying. Their thirteen children fled for their lives. His fields and his gristmill were laid to waste. For more than a year he lived in forests and caves, returning home to find his wife dead and his children vanished. A few weeks later he died from exhaustion and a broken heart.
Norris and Livingston suffered similar fates.
Such were the stories and sacrifices of the American Revolution. These were not wild-eyed, rabble-rousing ruffians. They were soft-spoken men of means and education.
They had security, but they valued liberty more. Standing tall, straight, and unwavering, they pledged: "For the support of this declaration, with firm reliance on the protection of divine providence, we mutually pledge to each other, our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor."
They gave you and me a free and independent America. The history books never told you a lot about what happened in the Revolutionary War. We didn't fight just the British. We were British subjects at that time and we fought our own government!
Some of us take these liberties so much for granted, but we shouldn't. So, take a few minutes this year while enjoying your 4th of July holiday and silently thank these patriots. It's not much to ask for the price they paid".
Merle
April 4, 2007 9:13 PM
Anonymous said...
With the 26 of you continually giving it your very best over and over again, I won’t be surprised that you've become part of something positive here in Rio Rancho, the city of vision, for the next 4 graduating classes.
We applaud your efforts and encourage RRPS to return to The PIT.
April 4, 2007 9:19 PM
LETS NOT BE PREJUDICE said...
DR. CLEVELAND,
THIS IS THE LARGEST GRADUATING CLASS IN RIO RANCHO HISTORY AND THE LARGEST CLASS IN THE STATE.
TO PLACE THE LARGEST CLASS IN A SMALLER VENUE IS NOT A WELL THOUGHT OUT PLAN AT THIS LATE NOTICE NO MATTER WHAT THE LOGIC.
IT CLEARLY DISCRIMINATES AGAINST PEOPLE WITH "LARGE FAMILIES" AND PROHIBITS ANYONE ELSE THEY KNOW FROM BEING ABLE TO COME.
MY DAY REALLY GOES BY, THERE IS NOT ENOUGH TIME IN THE DAY.
FOR ANYONE OUT OF THEIR BUSY SCHEDULE TO WANT TO GO TO A "HIGH SCHOOL GRADUATION" REALLY WANTS TO GO.
SORRY TO HEAR ABOUT 06.
LETS NOT BE PREJUDICE HERE.
IF SOMEONE WANTS TO GO THEN THAT IS UP TO THEM.
HIGHER EXTRA GUARDS.
CHANGE THIS BACK.
THANK YOU,
Jeremy
April 4, 2007 10:22 PM
Anonymous said...
I'm not going to any gambling dens and neither is anyone else in my family. As far as I'm concerned, they can mail my son's diploma to him.
Boycott the casino graduation!!!!
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April 4, 2007 10:26 PM
Matches Malone said...
i'll see ya' all at 1
April 4, 2007 10:31 PM
Moses Malone said...
Fo'
Fo'
Fo'
Won't take no sh_ _t,
let's go back to The Pit!
April 4, 2007 10:34 PM
SCHOOL BOARD MEETING 4/9 said...
Call Yvette 994-9648
THE SCHOOL BOARD MEETING
Monday April 9 at 5:00 pm
ANYONE THAT CAN ATTEND PLEASE GO
HAVE FAMILY MEMBERS-FRIENDS-ANYONE
WHO WANTS TO SUPPORT THE MOVE TO THE PIT
PLEASE GO
CALL ME IF YOU KNOW FOR SURE THAT YOU ARE GOING TO ATTEND
SO WE CAN ALL GET TOGETHER BEFORE THAT DATE
MY NUMBER AGAIN IS 994-9648
OR EMAIL ME AT nanee_angel@yahoo.com
April 5, 2007 6:28 AM
The Observer said...
Dr. C;eveland,
I wonder how this will affect my graduation?
Marsha
Editor:
For weeks I had been telling friends about the then-upcoming Rio Rancho Pork & Brew, and how much I was looking forward to all that yummy BBQ.
So, even though parking was reported to be limited this year at the Star Center, off I drove to get my fill. Once on Paseo del Volcan, however, I saw 40 or so cars, backed up in both directions, waiting to turn onto the two-lane access road.
Sadly, I drove on past, returning home with my taste buds, not my tail, between my legs.
While poor access to the event center has been discussed at length, I still have trouble understanding how we could spend (more than) $40 million to build the place without having adequate access roads completed at the same time. Now that the Star Center has been open all these months, shouldn't those planning shortfalls have been corrected by now? How can we expect the center to be a success if we limit attendance due to access frustrations?
The city manager responsible for overseeing the planning process should be fired. Oh, wait. He already was.
April 5, 2007 6:38 AM
To Dr. Cleveland said...
We are
The “Victims of political posturing”
Roland
April 5, 2007 7:56 AM
To RRPS said...
Our family agrees with the petition
Mack
April 5, 2007 10:41 AM
English class said...
As learned in my English class:
Half a league, half a league,
Half a league onward,
All to district office
Rode the six hundred.
'Forward, the Light Brigade!
Rode the six hundred.
Their's not to make reply,
Their's not to reason why,
Their's but to do and why:
Into district office
Rode the six hundred.
The Observer to right of them,
The Ryan’s to left of them,
VonAncken in front of them
Into the jaws
Into the mouth of RRPS
Rode the six hundred.
Honour the charge they made!
Honour the Light Brigade,
Noble six hundred!
ALT
April 5, 2007 11:00 AM
Town Hall Meeting said...
For Immediate Release
April 5, 2007
RIO RANCHO, NM - Rio Rancho Mayor Kevin M. Jackson will hold his first town
hall meeting on Thursday, April 12, 2007 from 7:00PM to 8:00PM in the
Governing Body Chambers located in Rio Rancho City Hall.
Mayor Jackson will provide updates regarding the recently concluded New
Mexico State Legislative Session and information about the City's new
Central Business District. Mayor Jackson will also address questions that
are submitted by the audience.
"I encourage residents to attend this town hall meeting. Two-way
communication between citizens and government is critical. I believe this
town hall meeting will provide a unique opportunity to hear from residents
regarding issues relevant to our City as well as providing valuable updates
to the community," said Mayor Jackson.
The town hall meeting will be open to the public. For more information
residents may call 505-896-8727 or via e-mail at
feedbackform@ci.rio-rancho.nm.us
April 5, 2007 12:43 PM
NICE!!! said...
Nice!!!
NO way Jose!
RRPS break your contract and go back to The Pit!
Brian
April 5, 2007 3:34 PM
To Dr. Cleveland said...
Thank you to all those families keeping this graduation alive!
Gregory
April 5, 2007 6:26 PM
Dr. Cleveland said...
We are praying for this decision to be resolved.
The local newspaper has already taken sides and unfairly characterizes anyone that disagrees with the decision.
Anyone that disagrees with the decision does not need to be ridiculed for thinking differently. They should not be categorized as less American. They had nothing to do with last years crowd. They don’t need lessons on raising children from people who have a column in the newspaper. Or lessons in what a cruel “woild” we live in, or “buck up.”
The newspapers should have their top reporter in the face of district office asking hard questions, like how come everyone was not allowed to voice their opinions? Is there political pressure and by whom? Why did the principal get booed? Is this discrimination? Does this in fact affect our Hispanic families?
They actually told families 10 years old and younger that they can’t celebrate. Yes they recommend that young people can’t see an event with their own eyes even though it is actually positive reinforcement. Remember our state tops the charts in suicides and dropouts. They literally called fellow “Ranchoans, whiners, greedy and to get over it.”
Funny is funny but the April Fool’s deal was “underhanded and nasty” quoting the newspaper.
Belinda
April 5, 2007 7:43 PM
To Dr. Sue Cleveland said...
“Everyone has already heard the arguments for and against returning the graduation ceremony to The Pit so there’s no reason to spend a lot of time rehashing what’s already been said. The only issue left to be decided is what most of the parents want to do. We believe that most of the parents want the ceremony to be held in The Pit. So our only request is that you authorize a vote so that we can see what the parents want. If most of them want to hold the ceremony at the Star Center, then we should hold it at the Star Center; if most of the parents want to return to the Pit, then that’s what we should do. If you feel you can’t authorize a vote, then the only fair decision is to return the ceremony to The Pit given that the decision was made without sufficient public input.
Further, the decision to move the ceremony to the Star Center disproportionately inconveniences larger families, many of whom happen to be Hispanic.”
KW
April 5, 2007 8:39 PM
"The proof is in the pudding" said...
"The proof is in the pudding"
When you take everything all of the reasons pro and con, this was done wrong.
Go Back to The PIT
Matt
April 5, 2007 9:26 PM
The Pit said...
I want the graduation to return to the best location to have it, The Pit
Annie
April 5, 2007 9:31 PM
Great website said...
A website to get the gradution changed that is really wonderful!
Great thinking!
Phyl
April 5, 2007 9:38 PM
To the good Doctor said...
Read the comments Dr. Cleveland call off your mistake.
Jaz
April 5, 2007 9:51 PM
Ode to JOY! said...
Ode to JOY!
Let's Rock this function out!
Hailey
April 5, 2007 9:53 PM
Humpty said...
All the king's horses and all the king's men could not put Dr. Cleveland together again.
Pssssst Sue, they gave you's BAD advice, there ain't no WMD's "whining Mexican dudes"!
LET MY PEOPLE GOOOOO!
This is goin' to wreck your career..stop now!
Arturo
April 5, 2007 10:01 PM
SCHOOL BOARD MEETING 4/9 said...
SCHOOL BOARD MEETING 4/9
Call Yvette 994-9648
THE SCHOOL BOARD MEETING
Monday April 9 at 5:00 pm
ANYONE THAT CAN ATTEND PLEASE GO
HAVE FAMILY MEMBERS-FRIENDS-ANYONE
WHO WANTS TO SUPPORT THE MOVE TO THE PIT
PLEASE GO
CALL ME IF YOU KNOW FOR SURE THAT YOU ARE GOING TO ATTEND
SO WE CAN ALL GET TOGETHER BEFORE THAT DATE
MY NUMBER AGAIN IS 994-9648
OR EMAIL ME AT nanee_angel@yahoo.com
April 6, 2007 6:45 AM
All 2007 SENIORS!!! said...
Change our graduation Back
All 2007 SENIORS!!!
April 6, 2007 7:15 AM
Alex said...
Go Back to THE PIT
April 6, 2007 7:33 AM
John and Paul said...
And in the end the love you take.....
April 6, 2007 11:10 AM
John, Paul, George and Ringo said...
That is right!
Even the Beatles wrote "Get Back",
we need to take that advice and get back!
OH YEAH!!!!
April 6, 2007 11:16 AM
Shout OUT! said...
This is a little Shout Out to Doctor Cleveland.
Dr., you and all the teachers have taught us, and taught us well.
This is not at all fair, please do the right thing and go back to the Pit.
The Class of 2007 RULES!!
April 6, 2007 11:18 AM
He said She said said...
He said She said,
Dr. Cleveland, We are a family of four, and we are ok on tickets. I just got off the phone with another family who said some parents met with you today. What prompted me to write this now is, we are running out of time.
The actual seniors graduating and their families are the ones that should be allowed to vote.
We are getting shorter on time, I could not be there today due to work and I really applaud those that could get there.
I will talk with them directly tonight when I am off work. This has really hurt families. The newspaper is cruel.
I have now heard pretty much all the reasons and you have been told over and over how this has been dealt is wrong, unfair and discriminatory.
One side is trying to explain and justify and using their efforts to keep this in Rio Rancho.
The other side is being put down for speaking up.
And I agree with this email:
Surely we have legal rights?
Each School Board member is sworn in by a judge and their oath of service maintains they must uphold the Constitution of the United States as well as the school's, isn't this a direct violation of "due process", fair process, or any equal and "good faith" standards that adhere to our Constitution and what they were founded on? I have personally heard that Dr. Cleveland is "fair" and we are absolutely counting on that in this matter.
“Everyone has already heard the arguments for and against returning the graduation ceremony to The Pit so there’s no reason to spend a lot of time rehashing what’s already been said. The only issue left to be decided is what most of the parents want to do. We believe that most of the parents want the ceremony to be held in The Pit. So our only request is that you authorize a vote so that we can see what the parents want. If most of them want to hold the ceremony at the Star Center, then we should hold it at the Star Center; if most of the parents want to return to the Pit, then that’s what we should do. If you feel you can’t authorize a vote, then the only fair decision is to return the ceremony to The Pit given that the decision was made without sufficient public input.
Further, the decision to move the ceremony to the Star Center disproportionately inconveniences larger families, many of whom happen to be Hispanic.”
I understand this was given to you, well, do the right thing Dr. Cleveland.
Aggie.
April 6, 2007 11:58 AM
Anonymous said...
I agree with this email:
Surely we have legal rights?
Each School Board member is sworn in by a judge and their oath of service maintains they must uphold the Constitution of the United States as well as the school's, isn't this a direct violation of "due process", fair process, or any equal and "good faith" standards that adhere to our Constitution and what they were founded on? I have personally heard that Dr. Cleveland is "fair" and we are absolutely counting on that in this matter.
Alonzo
April 6, 2007 12:48 PM
Calvin said...
“Everyone has already heard the arguments for and against returning the graduation ceremony to The Pit so there’s no reason to spend a lot of time rehashing what’s already been said. The only issue left to be decided is what most of the parents want to do. We believe that most of the parents want the ceremony to be held in The Pit. So our only request is that you authorize a vote so that we can see what the parents want. If most of them want to hold the ceremony at the Star Center, then we should hold it at the Star Center; if most of the parents want to return to the Pit, then that’s what we should do. If you feel you can’t authorize a vote, then the only fair decision is to return the ceremony to The Pit given that the decision was made without sufficient public input.
Further, the decision to move the ceremony to the Star Center disproportionately inconveniences larger families, many of whom happen to be Hispanic.”
April 6, 2007 12:50 PM
To Dr. Sue Cleveland said...
“Everyone has already heard the arguments for and against returning the graduation ceremony to The Pit so there’s no reason to spend a lot of time rehashing what’s already been said. The only issue left to be decided is what most of the parents want to do. We believe that most of the parents want the ceremony to be held in The Pit. So our only request is that you authorize a vote so that we can see what the parents want. If most of them want to hold the ceremony at the Star Center, then we should hold it at the Star Center; if most of the parents want to return to the Pit, then that’s what we should do. If you feel you can’t authorize a vote, then the only fair decision is to return the ceremony to The Pit given that the decision was made without sufficient public input.
Further, the decision to move the ceremony to the Star Center disproportionately inconveniences larger families, many of whom happen to be Hispanic.”
Attention: Seniors, Parents, Guardians, Families, Relatives, Students and concerned persons
REMEMBER THIS DECISION WILL AFFECT ALL GRADUATING SENIORS, THEIR FAMILIES AND LOVED ONES NOW 2007 & OVER THE NEXT 4 YEARS OR UNTIL THE NEW SCHOOL IS OPEN!
GREAT NEWS!!
THE PIT IS STILL AVAILABLE ON MAY 19TH
AND THEY WILL NOT BE BOOKING THAT TIME AND DATE FOR ANYONE
IT IS STILL OPEN!!!
Please visit the web log, copy and paste this into your browser
http://rioranchogradsunite.blogspot.com/
You can also email: cmj2nc@aol.com if you have any problems posting comments on the blog, thank you.
We are a group of families that would like to have the Class of 2007 Graduation returned to "The PIT."
At minimum, let’s put this matter to a fair vote.
We are respectfully asking Dr. Sue Cleveland to make the decision to return to "The PIT."
RRPS has broken contracts before and can break this contract now and go "BACK TO THE PIT."
We need all persons that want the Graduation to be returned to "The PIT" to let your voice be heard.
In an unprecedented administrative decision, input was NOT allowed, requested or regarded by everyone affected. Only certain voices were heard.
This last minute decision has affected all of the graduating Seniors for 2007, 2008, 2009 and 2010 along with their families and loved ones.
Due to this last minute decision over 10,000 people will not be able to attend the 2007 graduation.
We have heard all the reasons and explanations given by the administration and strongly feel they do not outweigh the fact that a fair process did not occur in the first place concerning this matter.
Please go online now. We have every right to be heard. "It’s not over till it’s over."
BACK TO the Pit
FAMILY AND friends of Rio Rancho High School graduates DISCUSSION GROUP
Please visit the web log, copy and paste this into your browser
http://rioranchogradsunite.blogspot.com/
You can also email: cmj2nc@aol.com if you have any problems posting comments on the blog, thank you
April 6, 2007 1:26 PM
Marcos said...
“Everyone has already heard the arguments for and against returning the graduation ceremony to The Pit so there’s no reason to spend a lot of time rehashing what’s already been said. The only issue left to be decided is what most of the parents want to do. We believe that most of the parents want the ceremony to be held in The Pit. So our only request is that you authorize a vote so that we can see what the parents want. If most of them want to hold the ceremony at the Star Center, then we should hold it at the Star Center; if most of the parents want to return to the Pit, then that’s what we should do. If you feel you can’t authorize a vote, then the only fair decision is to return the ceremony to The Pit given that the decision was made without sufficient public input.
Further, the decision to move the ceremony to the Star Center disproportionately inconveniences larger families, many of whom happen to be Hispanic.”
April 6, 2007 1:38 PM
Zach said...
“Everyone has already heard the arguments for and against returning the graduation ceremony to The Pit so there’s no reason to spend a lot of time rehashing what’s already been said. The only issue left to be decided is what most of the parents want to do. We believe that most of the parents want the ceremony to be held in The Pit. So our only request is that you authorize a vote so that we can see what the parents want. If most of them want to hold the ceremony at the Star Center, then we should hold it at the Star Center; if most of the parents want to return to the Pit, then that’s what we should do. If you feel you can’t authorize a vote, then the only fair decision is to return the ceremony to The Pit given that the decision was made without sufficient public input.
Further, the decision to move the ceremony to the Star Center disproportionately inconveniences larger families, many of whom happen to be Hispanic.”
April 6, 2007 1:39 PM
Chicano Family said...
“Everyone has already heard the arguments for and against returning the graduation ceremony to The Pit so there’s no reason to spend a lot of time rehashing what’s already been said. The only issue left to be decided is what most of the parents want to do. We believe that most of the parents want the ceremony to be held in The Pit. So our only request is that you authorize a vote so that we can see what the parents want. If most of them want to hold the ceremony at the Star Center, then we should hold it at the Star Center; if most of the parents want to return to the Pit, then that’s what we should do. If you feel you can’t authorize a vote, then the only fair decision is to return the ceremony to The Pit given that the decision was made without sufficient public input.
Further, the decision to move the ceremony to the Star Center disproportionately inconveniences larger families, many of whom happen to be Hispanic.”
April 6, 2007 1:39 PM
Conselo said...
“Everyone has already heard the arguments for and against returning the graduation ceremony to The Pit so there’s no reason to spend a lot of time rehashing what’s already been said. The only issue left to be decided is what most of the parents want to do. We believe that most of the parents want the ceremony to be held in The Pit. So our only request is that you authorize a vote so that we can see what the parents want. If most of them want to hold the ceremony at the Star Center, then we should hold it at the Star Center; if most of the parents want to return to the Pit, then that’s what we should do. If you feel you can’t authorize a vote, then the only fair decision is to return the ceremony to The Pit given that the decision was made without sufficient public input.
Further, the decision to move the ceremony to the Star Center disproportionately inconveniences larger families, many of whom happen to be Hispanic.”
April 6, 2007 1:40 PM
Maggie said...
“Everyone has already heard the arguments for and against returning the graduation ceremony to The Pit so there’s no reason to spend a lot of time rehashing what’s already been said. The only issue left to be decided is what most of the parents want to do. We believe that most of the parents want the ceremony to be held in The Pit. So our only request is that you authorize a vote so that we can see what the parents want. If most of them want to hold the ceremony at the Star Center, then we should hold it at the Star Center; if most of the parents want to return to the Pit, then that’s what we should do. If you feel you can’t authorize a vote, then the only fair decision is to return the ceremony to The Pit given that the decision was made without sufficient public input.
Further, the decision to move the ceremony to the Star Center disproportionately inconveniences larger families, many of whom happen to be Hispanic.”
April 6, 2007 1:40 PM
Jorge said...
“Everyone has already heard the arguments for and against returning the graduation ceremony to The Pit so there’s no reason to spend a lot of time rehashing what’s already been said. The only issue left to be decided is what most of the parents want to do. We believe that most of the parents want the ceremony to be held in The Pit. So our only request is that you authorize a vote so that we can see what the parents want. If most of them want to hold the ceremony at the Star Center, then we should hold it at the Star Center; if most of the parents want to return to the Pit, then that’s what we should do. If you feel you can’t authorize a vote, then the only fair decision is to return the ceremony to The Pit given that the decision was made without sufficient public input.
Further, the decision to move the ceremony to the Star Center disproportionately inconveniences larger families, many of whom happen to be Hispanic.”
April 6, 2007 1:40 PM
C. C said...
I don't know what to write but I sure like this:
“Everyone has already heard the arguments for and against returning the graduation ceremony to The Pit so there’s no reason to spend a lot of time rehashing what’s already been said. The only issue left to be decided is what most of the parents want to do. We believe that most of the parents want the ceremony to be held in The Pit. So our only request is that you authorize a vote so that we can see what the parents want. If most of them want to hold the ceremony at the Star Center, then we should hold it at the Star Center; if most of the parents want to return to the Pit, then that’s what we should do. If you feel you can’t authorize a vote, then the only fair decision is to return the ceremony to The Pit given that the decision was made without sufficient public input.
Further, the decision to move the ceremony to the Star Center disproportionately inconveniences larger families, many of whom happen to be Hispanic.”
April 6, 2007 1:41 PM
Augustine said...
“Everyone has already heard the arguments for and against returning the graduation ceremony to The Pit so there’s no reason to spend a lot of time rehashing what’s already been said. The only issue left to be decided is what most of the parents want to do. We believe that most of the parents want the ceremony to be held in The Pit. So our only request is that you authorize a vote so that we can see what the parents want. If most of them want to hold the ceremony at the Star Center, then we should hold it at the Star Center; if most of the parents want to return to the Pit, then that’s what we should do. If you feel you can’t authorize a vote, then the only fair decision is to return the ceremony to The Pit given that the decision was made without sufficient public input.
Further, the decision to move the ceremony to the Star Center disproportionately inconveniences larger families, many of whom happen to be Hispanic.”
April 6, 2007 1:41 PM
Gonzalo said...
“Everyone has already heard the arguments for and against returning the graduation ceremony to The Pit so there’s no reason to spend a lot of time rehashing what’s already been said. The only issue left to be decided is what most of the parents want to do. We believe that most of the parents want the ceremony to be held in The Pit. So our only request is that you authorize a vote so that we can see what the parents want. If most of them want to hold the ceremony at the Star Center, then we should hold it at the Star Center; if most of the parents want to return to the Pit, then that’s what we should do. If you feel you can’t authorize a vote, then the only fair decision is to return the ceremony to The Pit given that the decision was made without sufficient public input.
Further, the decision to move the ceremony to the Star Center disproportionately inconveniences larger families, many of whom happen to be Hispanic.”
April 6, 2007 1:42 PM
Araceli said...
“Everyone has already heard the arguments for and against returning the graduation ceremony to The Pit so there’s no reason to spend a lot of time rehashing what’s already been said. The only issue left to be decided is what most of the parents want to do. We believe that most of the parents want the ceremony to be held in The Pit. So our only request is that you authorize a vote so that we can see what the parents want. If most of them want to hold the ceremony at the Star Center, then we should hold it at the Star Center; if most of the parents want to return to the Pit, then that’s what we should do. If you feel you can’t authorize a vote, then the only fair decision is to return the ceremony to The Pit given that the decision was made without sufficient public input.
Further, the decision to move the ceremony to the Star Center disproportionately inconveniences larger families, many of whom happen to be Hispanic.”
April 6, 2007 1:42 PM
Jaime said...
“Everyone has already heard the arguments for and against returning the graduation ceremony to The Pit so there’s no reason to spend a lot of time rehashing what’s already been said. The only issue left to be decided is what most of the parents want to do. We believe that most of the parents want the ceremony to be held in The Pit. So our only request is that you authorize a vote so that we can see what the parents want. If most of them want to hold the ceremony at the Star Center, then we should hold it at the Star Center; if most of the parents want to return to the Pit, then that’s what we should do. If you feel you can’t authorize a vote, then the only fair decision is to return the ceremony to The Pit given that the decision was made without sufficient public input.
Further, the decision to move the ceremony to the Star Center disproportionately inconveniences larger families, many of whom happen to be Hispanic.”
April 6, 2007 1:42 PM
Octavio said...
“Everyone has already heard the arguments for and against returning the graduation ceremony to The Pit so there’s no reason to spend a lot of time rehashing what’s already been said. The only issue left to be decided is what most of the parents want to do. We believe that most of the parents want the ceremony to be held in The Pit. So our only request is that you authorize a vote so that we can see what the parents want. If most of them want to hold the ceremony at the Star Center, then we should hold it at the Star Center; if most of the parents want to return to the Pit, then that’s what we should do. If you feel you can’t authorize a vote, then the only fair decision is to return the ceremony to The Pit given that the decision was made without sufficient public input.
Further, the decision to move the ceremony to the Star Center disproportionately inconveniences larger families, many of whom happen to be Hispanic.”
April 6, 2007 1:42 PM
Miguel said...
“Everyone has already heard the arguments for and against returning the graduation ceremony to The Pit so there’s no reason to spend a lot of time rehashing what’s already been said. The only issue left to be decided is what most of the parents want to do. We believe that most of the parents want the ceremony to be held in The Pit. So our only request is that you authorize a vote so that we can see what the parents want. If most of them want to hold the ceremony at the Star Center, then we should hold it at the Star Center; if most of the parents want to return to the Pit, then that’s what we should do. If you feel you can’t authorize a vote, then the only fair decision is to return the ceremony to The Pit given that the decision was made without sufficient public input.
Further, the decision to move the ceremony to the Star Center disproportionately inconveniences larger families, many of whom happen to be Hispanic.”
April 6, 2007 1:43 PM
Melinda said...
“Everyone has already heard the arguments for and against returning the graduation ceremony to The Pit so there’s no reason to spend a lot of time rehashing what’s already been said. The only issue left to be decided is what most of the parents want to do. We believe that most of the parents want the ceremony to be held in The Pit. So our only request is that you authorize a vote so that we can see what the parents want. If most of them want to hold the ceremony at the Star Center, then we should hold it at the Star Center; if most of the parents want to return to the Pit, then that’s what we should do. If you feel you can’t authorize a vote, then the only fair decision is to return the ceremony to The Pit given that the decision was made without sufficient public input.
Further, the decision to move the ceremony to the Star Center disproportionately inconveniences larger families, many of whom happen to be Hispanic.”
April 6, 2007 1:43 PM
Juan said...
“Everyone has already heard the arguments for and against returning the graduation ceremony to The Pit so there’s no reason to spend a lot of time rehashing what’s already been said. The only issue left to be decided is what most of the parents want to do. We believe that most of the parents want the ceremony to be held in The Pit. So our only request is that you authorize a vote so that we can see what the parents want. If most of them want to hold the ceremony at the Star Center, then we should hold it at the Star Center; if most of the parents want to return to the Pit, then that’s what we should do. If you feel you can’t authorize a vote, then the only fair decision is to return the ceremony to The Pit given that the decision was made without sufficient public input.
Further, the decision to move the ceremony to the Star Center disproportionately inconveniences larger families, many of whom happen to be Hispanic.”
April 6, 2007 1:43 PM
Ernesto said...
“Everyone has already heard the arguments for and against returning the graduation ceremony to The Pit so there’s no reason to spend a lot of time rehashing what’s already been said. The only issue left to be decided is what most of the parents want to do. We believe that most of the parents want the ceremony to be held in The Pit. So our only request is that you authorize a vote so that we can see what the parents want. If most of them want to hold the ceremony at the Star Center, then we should hold it at the Star Center; if most of the parents want to return to the Pit, then that’s what we should do. If you feel you can’t authorize a vote, then the only fair decision is to return the ceremony to The Pit given that the decision was made without sufficient public input.
Further, the decision to move the ceremony to the Star Center disproportionately inconveniences larger families, many of whom happen to be Hispanic.”
April 6, 2007 1:44 PM
Nestor said...
“Everyone has already heard the arguments for and against returning the graduation ceremony to The Pit so there’s no reason to spend a lot of time rehashing what’s already been said. The only issue left to be decided is what most of the parents want to do. We believe that most of the parents want the ceremony to be held in The Pit. So our only request is that you authorize a vote so that we can see what the parents want. If most of them want to hold the ceremony at the Star Center, then we should hold it at the Star Center; if most of the parents want to return to the Pit, then that’s what we should do. If you feel you can’t authorize a vote, then the only fair decision is to return the ceremony to The Pit given that the decision was made without sufficient public input.
Further, the decision to move the ceremony to the Star Center disproportionately inconveniences larger families, many of whom happen to be Hispanic.”
April 6, 2007 1:44 PM
Nan said...
“Everyone has already heard the arguments for and against returning the graduation ceremony to The Pit so there’s no reason to spend a lot of time rehashing what’s already been said. The only issue left to be decided is what most of the parents want to do. We believe that most of the parents want the ceremony to be held in The Pit. So our only request is that you authorize a vote so that we can see what the parents want. If most of them want to hold the ceremony at the Star Center, then we should hold it at the Star Center; if most of the parents want to return to the Pit, then that’s what we should do. If you feel you can’t authorize a vote, then the only fair decision is to return the ceremony to The Pit given that the decision was made without sufficient public input.
Further, the decision to move the ceremony to the Star Center disproportionately inconveniences larger families, many of whom happen to be Hispanic.”
April 6, 2007 1:44 PM
Jorge said...
“Everyone has already heard the arguments for and against returning the graduation ceremony to The Pit so there’s no reason to spend a lot of time rehashing what’s already been said. The only issue left to be decided is what most of the parents want to do. We believe that most of the parents want the ceremony to be held in The Pit. So our only request is that you authorize a vote so that we can see what the parents want. If most of them want to hold the ceremony at the Star Center, then we should hold it at the Star Center; if most of the parents want to return to the Pit, then that’s what we should do. If you feel you can’t authorize a vote, then the only fair decision is to return the ceremony to The Pit given that the decision was made without sufficient public input.
Further, the decision to move the ceremony to the Star Center disproportionately inconveniences larger families, many of whom happen to be Hispanic.”
April 6, 2007 1:45 PM
Gary said...
“Everyone has already heard the arguments for and against returning the graduation ceremony to The Pit so there’s no reason to spend a lot of time rehashing what’s already been said. The only issue left to be decided is what most of the parents want to do. We believe that most of the parents want the ceremony to be held in The Pit. So our only request is that you authorize a vote so that we can see what the parents want. If most of them want to hold the ceremony at the Star Center, then we should hold it at the Star Center; if most of the parents want to return to the Pit, then that’s what we should do. If you feel you can’t authorize a vote, then the only fair decision is to return the ceremony to The Pit given that the decision was made without sufficient public input.
Further, the decision to move the ceremony to the Star Center disproportionately inconveniences larger families, many of whom happen to be Hispanic.”
April 6, 2007 1:45 PM
Albert said...
“Everyone has already heard the arguments for and against returning the graduation ceremony to The Pit so there’s no reason to spend a lot of time rehashing what’s already been said. The only issue left to be decided is what most of the parents want to do. We believe that most of the parents want the ceremony to be held in The Pit. So our only request is that you authorize a vote so that we can see what the parents want. If most of them want to hold the ceremony at the Star Center, then we should hold it at the Star Center; if most of the parents want to return to the Pit, then that’s what we should do. If you feel you can’t authorize a vote, then the only fair decision is to return the ceremony to The Pit given that the decision was made without sufficient public input.
Further, the decision to move the ceremony to the Star Center disproportionately inconveniences larger families, many of whom happen to be Hispanic.”
April 6, 2007 1:46 PM
Fig said...
“Everyone has already heard the arguments for and against returning the graduation ceremony to The Pit so there’s no reason to spend a lot of time rehashing what’s already been said. The only issue left to be decided is what most of the parents want to do. We believe that most of the parents want the ceremony to be held in The Pit. So our only request is that you authorize a vote so that we can see what the parents want. If most of them want to hold the ceremony at the Star Center, then we should hold it at the Star Center; if most of the parents want to return to the Pit, then that’s what we should do. If you feel you can’t authorize a vote, then the only fair decision is to return the ceremony to The Pit given that the decision was made without sufficient public input.
Further, the decision to move the ceremony to the Star Center disproportionately inconveniences larger families, many of whom happen to be Hispanic.”
April 6, 2007 1:46 PM
BEE FAIR said...
“Everyone has already heard the arguments for and against returning the graduation ceremony to The Pit so there’s no reason to spend a lot of time rehashing what’s already been said. The only issue left to be decided is what most of the parents want to do. We believe that most of the parents want the ceremony to be held in The Pit. So our only request is that you authorize a vote so that we can see what the parents want. If most of them want to hold the ceremony at the Star Center, then we should hold it at the Star Center; if most of the parents want to return to the Pit, then that’s what we should do. If you feel you can’t authorize a vote, then the only fair decision is to return the ceremony to The Pit given that the decision was made without sufficient public input.
Further, the decision to move the ceremony to the Star Center disproportionately inconveniences larger families, many of whom happen to be Hispanic.”
April 6, 2007 1:52 PM
Vote said...
“Everyone has already heard the arguments for and against returning the graduation ceremony to The Pit so there’s no reason to spend a lot of time rehashing what’s already been said. The only issue left to be decided is what most of the parents want to do. We believe that most of the parents want the ceremony to be held in The Pit. So our only request is that you authorize a vote so that we can see what the parents want. If most of them want to hold the ceremony at the Star Center, then we should hold it at the Star Center; if most of the parents want to return to the Pit, then that’s what we should do. If you feel you can’t authorize a vote, then the only fair decision is to return the ceremony to The Pit given that the decision was made without sufficient public input.
Further, the decision to move the ceremony to the Star Center disproportionately inconveniences larger families, many of whom happen to be Hispanic.”
April 6, 2007 1:53 PM
Otis said...
“Everyone has already heard the arguments for and against returning the graduation ceremony to The Pit so there’s no reason to spend a lot of time rehashing what’s already been said. The only issue left to be decided is what most of the parents want to do. We believe that most of the parents want the ceremony to be held in The Pit. So our only request is that you authorize a vote so that we can see what the parents want. If most of them want to hold the ceremony at the Star Center, then we should hold it at the Star Center; if most of the parents want to return to the Pit, then that’s what we should do. If you feel you can’t authorize a vote, then the only fair decision is to return the ceremony to The Pit given that the decision was made without sufficient public input.
Further, the decision to move the ceremony to the Star Center disproportionately inconveniences larger families, many of whom happen to be Hispanic.”
April 6, 2007 1:59 PM
Meliton said...
“Everyone has already heard the arguments for and against returning the graduation ceremony to The Pit so there’s no reason to spend a lot of time rehashing what’s already been said. The only issue left to be decided is what most of the parents want to do. We believe that most of the parents want the ceremony to be held in The Pit. So our only request is that you authorize a vote so that we can see what the parents want. If most of them want to hold the ceremony at the Star Center, then we should hold it at the Star Center; if most of the parents want to return to the Pit, then that’s what we should do. If you feel you can’t authorize a vote, then the only fair decision is to return the ceremony to The Pit given that the decision was made without sufficient public input.
Further, the decision to move the ceremony to the Star Center disproportionately inconveniences larger families, many of whom happen to be Hispanic.”
April 6, 2007 1:59 PM
Conrad said...
“Everyone has already heard the arguments for and against returning the graduation ceremony to The Pit so there’s no reason to spend a lot of time rehashing what’s already been said. The only issue left to be decided is what most of the parents want to do. We believe that most of the parents want the ceremony to be held in The Pit. So our only request is that you authorize a vote so that we can see what the parents want. If most of them want to hold the ceremony at the Star Center, then we should hold it at the Star Center; if most of the parents want to return to the Pit, then that’s what we should do. If you feel you can’t authorize a vote, then the only fair decision is to return the ceremony to The Pit given that the decision was made without sufficient public input.
Further, the decision to move the ceremony to the Star Center disproportionately inconveniences larger families, many of whom happen to be Hispanic.”
April 6, 2007 1:59 PM
comment said...
“Everyone has already heard the arguments for and against returning the graduation ceremony to The Pit so there’s no reason to spend a lot of time rehashing what’s already been said. The only issue left to be decided is what most of the parents want to do. We believe that most of the parents want the ceremony to be held in The Pit. So our only request is that you authorize a vote so that we can see what the parents want. If most of them want to hold the ceremony at the Star Center, then we should hold it at the Star Center; if most of the parents want to return to the Pit, then that’s what we should do. If you feel you can’t authorize a vote, then the only fair decision is to return the ceremony to The Pit given that the decision was made without sufficient public input.
Further, the decision to move the ceremony to the Star Center disproportionately inconveniences larger families, many of whom happen to be Hispanic.”
April 6, 2007 2:00 PM
Si said...
“Everyone has already heard the arguments for and against returning the graduation ceremony to The Pit so there’s no reason to spend a lot of time rehashing what’s already been said. The only issue left to be decided is what most of the parents want to do. We believe that most of the parents want the ceremony to be held in The Pit. So our only request is that you authorize a vote so that we can see what the parents want. If most of them want to hold the ceremony at the Star Center, then we should hold it at the Star Center; if most of the parents want to return to the Pit, then that’s what we should do. If you feel you can’t authorize a vote, then the only fair decision is to return the ceremony to The Pit given that the decision was made without sufficient public input.
Further, the decision to move the ceremony to the Star Center disproportionately inconveniences larger families, many of whom happen to be Hispanic.”
April 6, 2007 2:00 PM
Gutay said...
“Everyone has already heard the arguments for and against returning the graduation ceremony to The Pit so there’s no reason to spend a lot of time rehashing what’s already been said. The only issue left to be decided is what most of the parents want to do. We believe that most of the parents want the ceremony to be held in The Pit. So our only request is that you authorize a vote so that we can see what the parents want. If most of them want to hold the ceremony at the Star Center, then we should hold it at the Star Center; if most of the parents want to return to the Pit, then that’s what we should do. If you feel you can’t authorize a vote, then the only fair decision is to return the ceremony to The Pit given that the decision was made without sufficient public input.
Further, the decision to move the ceremony to the Star Center disproportionately inconveniences larger families, many of whom happen to be Hispanic.”
April 6, 2007 2:00 PM
Tire Bite said...
“Everyone has already heard the arguments for and against returning the graduation ceremony to The Pit so there’s no reason to spend a lot of time rehashing what’s already been said. The only issue left to be decided is what most of the parents want to do. We believe that most of the parents want the ceremony to be held in The Pit. So our only request is that you authorize a vote so that we can see what the parents want. If most of them want to hold the ceremony at the Star Center, then we should hold it at the Star Center; if most of the parents want to return to the Pit, then that’s what we should do. If you feel you can’t authorize a vote, then the only fair decision is to return the ceremony to The Pit given that the decision was made without sufficient public input.
Further, the decision to move the ceremony to the Star Center disproportionately inconveniences larger families, many of whom happen to be Hispanic.”
April 6, 2007 2:00 PM
Cisco said...
“Everyone has already heard the arguments for and against returning the graduation ceremony to The Pit so there’s no reason to spend a lot of time rehashing what’s already been said. The only issue left to be decided is what most of the parents want to do. We believe that most of the parents want the ceremony to be held in The Pit. So our only request is that you authorize a vote so that we can see what the parents want. If most of them want to hold the ceremony at the Star Center, then we should hold it at the Star Center; if most of the parents want to return to the Pit, then that’s what we should do. If you feel you can’t authorize a vote, then the only fair decision is to return the ceremony to The Pit given that the decision was made without sufficient public input.
Further, the decision to move the ceremony to the Star Center disproportionately inconveniences larger families, many of whom happen to be Hispanic.”
April 6, 2007 2:01 PM
Cha Chi said...
“Everyone has already heard the arguments for and against returning the graduation ceremony to The Pit so there’s no reason to spend a lot of time rehashing what’s already been said. The only issue left to be decided is what most of the parents want to do. We believe that most of the parents want the ceremony to be held in The Pit. So our only request is that you authorize a vote so that we can see what the parents want. If most of them want to hold the ceremony at the Star Center, then we should hold it at the Star Center; if most of the parents want to return to the Pit, then that’s what we should do. If you feel you can’t authorize a vote, then the only fair decision is to return the ceremony to The Pit given that the decision was made without sufficient public input.
Further, the decision to move the ceremony to the Star Center disproportionately inconveniences larger families, many of whom happen to be Hispanic.”
April 6, 2007 2:01 PM
Norte said...
“Everyone has already heard the arguments for and against returning the graduation ceremony to The Pit so there’s no reason to spend a lot of time rehashing what’s already been said. The only issue left to be decided is what most of the parents want to do. We believe that most of the parents want the ceremony to be held in The Pit. So our only request is that you authorize a vote so that we can see what the parents want. If most of them want to hold the ceremony at the Star Center, then we should hold it at the Star Center; if most of the parents want to return to the Pit, then that’s what we should do. If you feel you can’t authorize a vote, then the only fair decision is to return the ceremony to The Pit given that the decision was made without sufficient public input.
Further, the decision to move the ceremony to the Star Center disproportionately inconveniences larger families, many of whom happen to be Hispanic.”
April 6, 2007 2:02 PM
Pablo said...
“Everyone has already heard the arguments for and against returning the graduation ceremony to The Pit so there’s no reason to spend a lot of time rehashing what’s already been said. The only issue left to be decided is what most of the parents want to do. We believe that most of the parents want the ceremony to be held in The Pit. So our only request is that you authorize a vote so that we can see what the parents want. If most of them want to hold the ceremony at the Star Center, then we should hold it at the Star Center; if most of the parents want to return to the Pit, then that’s what we should do. If you feel you can’t authorize a vote, then the only fair decision is to return the ceremony to The Pit given that the decision was made without sufficient public input.
Further, the decision to move the ceremony to the Star Center disproportionately inconveniences larger families, many of whom happen to be Hispanic.”
April 6, 2007 2:02 PM
Arguello said...
“Everyone has already heard the arguments for and against returning the graduation ceremony to The Pit so there’s no reason to spend a lot of time rehashing what’s already been said. The only issue left to be decided is what most of the parents want to do. We believe that most of the parents want the ceremony to be held in The Pit. So our only request is that you authorize a vote so that we can see what the parents want. If most of them want to hold the ceremony at the Star Center, then we should hold it at the Star Center; if most of the parents want to return to the Pit, then that’s what we should do. If you feel you can’t authorize a vote, then the only fair decision is to return the ceremony to The Pit given that the decision was made without sufficient public input.
Further, the decision to move the ceremony to the Star Center disproportionately inconveniences larger families, many of whom happen to be Hispanic.”
April 6, 2007 2:02 PM
Mama said...
“Everyone has already heard the arguments for and against returning the graduation ceremony to The Pit so there’s no reason to spend a lot of time rehashing what’s already been said. The only issue left to be decided is what most of the parents want to do. We believe that most of the parents want the ceremony to be held in The Pit. So our only request is that you authorize a vote so that we can see what the parents want. If most of them want to hold the ceremony at the Star Center, then we should hold it at the Star Center; if most of the parents want to return to the Pit, then that’s what we should do. If you feel you can’t authorize a vote, then the only fair decision is to return the ceremony to The Pit given that the decision was made without sufficient public input.
Further, the decision to move the ceremony to the Star Center disproportionately inconveniences larger families, many of whom happen to be Hispanic.”
April 6, 2007 2:03 PM
Che said...
“Everyone has already heard the arguments for and against returning the graduation ceremony to The Pit so there’s no reason to spend a lot of time rehashing what’s already been said. The only issue left to be decided is what most of the parents want to do. We believe that most of the parents want the ceremony to be held in The Pit. So our only request is that you authorize a vote so that we can see what the parents want. If most of them want to hold the ceremony at the Star Center, then we should hold it at the Star Center; if most of the parents want to return to the Pit, then that’s what we should do. If you feel you can’t authorize a vote, then the only fair decision is to return the ceremony to The Pit given that the decision was made without sufficient public input.
Further, the decision to move the ceremony to the Star Center disproportionately inconveniences larger families, many of whom happen to be Hispanic.”
April 6, 2007 2:03 PM
Chavez said...
“Everyone has already heard the arguments for and against returning the graduation ceremony to The Pit so there’s no reason to spend a lot of time rehashing what’s already been said. The only issue left to be decided is what most of the parents want to do. We believe that most of the parents want the ceremony to be held in The Pit. So our only request is that you authorize a vote so that we can see what the parents want. If most of them want to hold the ceremony at the Star Center, then we should hold it at the Star Center; if most of the parents want to return to the Pit, then that’s what we should do. If you feel you can’t authorize a vote, then the only fair decision is to return the ceremony to The Pit given that the decision was made without sufficient public input.
Further, the decision to move the ceremony to the Star Center disproportionately inconveniences larger families, many of whom happen to be Hispanic.”
April 6, 2007 2:04 PM
Enjo said...
“Everyone has already heard the arguments for and against returning the graduation ceremony to The Pit so there’s no reason to spend a lot of time rehashing what’s already been said. The only issue left to be decided is what most of the parents want to do. We believe that most of the parents want the ceremony to be held in The Pit. So our only request is that you authorize a vote so that we can see what the parents want. If most of them want to hold the ceremony at the Star Center, then we should hold it at the Star Center; if most of the parents want to return to the Pit, then that’s what we should do. If you feel you can’t authorize a vote, then the only fair decision is to return the ceremony to The Pit given that the decision was made without sufficient public input.
Further, the decision to move the ceremony to the Star Center disproportionately inconveniences larger families, many of whom happen to be Hispanic.”
April 6, 2007 2:04 PM
Tia said...
“Everyone has already heard the arguments for and against returning the graduation ceremony to The Pit so there’s no reason to spend a lot of time rehashing what’s already been said. The only issue left to be decided is what most of the parents want to do. We believe that most of the parents want the ceremony to be held in The Pit. So our only request is that you authorize a vote so that we can see what the parents want. If most of them want to hold the ceremony at the Star Center, then we should hold it at the Star Center; if most of the parents want to return to the Pit, then that’s what we should do. If you feel you can’t authorize a vote, then the only fair decision is to return the ceremony to The Pit given that the decision was made without sufficient public input.
Further, the decision to move the ceremony to the Star Center disproportionately inconveniences larger families, many of whom happen to be Hispanic.”
April 6, 2007 2:04 PM
Betocal said...
“Everyone has already heard the arguments for and against returning the graduation ceremony to The Pit so there’s no reason to spend a lot of time rehashing what’s already been said. The only issue left to be decided is what most of the parents want to do. We believe that most of the parents want the ceremony to be held in The Pit. So our only request is that you authorize a vote so that we can see what the parents want. If most of them want to hold the ceremony at the Star Center, then we should hold it at the Star Center; if most of the parents want to return to the Pit, then that’s what we should do. If you feel you can’t authorize a vote, then the only fair decision is to return the ceremony to The Pit given that the decision was made without sufficient public input.
Further, the decision to move the ceremony to the Star Center disproportionately inconveniences larger families, many of whom happen to be Hispanic.”
April 6, 2007 2:05 PM
Brown and Proud said...
“Everyone has already heard the arguments for and against returning the graduation ceremony to The Pit so there’s no reason to spend a lot of time rehashing what’s already been said. The only issue left to be decided is what most of the parents want to do. We believe that most of the parents want the ceremony to be held in The Pit. So our only request is that you authorize a vote so that we can see what the parents want. If most of them want to hold the ceremony at the Star Center, then we should hold it at the Star Center; if most of the parents want to return to the Pit, then that’s what we should do. If you feel you can’t authorize a vote, then the only fair decision is to return the ceremony to The Pit given that the decision was made without sufficient public input.
Further, the decision to move the ceremony to the Star Center disproportionately inconveniences larger families, many of whom happen to be Hispanic.”
April 6, 2007 2:05 PM
Kenny said...
“Everyone has already heard the arguments for and against returning the graduation ceremony to The Pit so there’s no reason to spend a lot of time rehashing what’s already been said. The only issue left to be decided is what most of the parents want to do. We believe that most of the parents want the ceremony to be held in The Pit. So our only request is that you authorize a vote so that we can see what the parents want. If most of them want to hold the ceremony at the Star Center, then we should hold it at the Star Center; if most of the parents want to return to the Pit, then that’s what we should do. If you feel you can’t authorize a vote, then the only fair decision is to return the ceremony to The Pit given that the decision was made without sufficient public input.
Further, the decision to move the ceremony to the Star Center disproportionately inconveniences larger families, many of whom happen to be Hispanic.”
April 6, 2007 2:05 PM
Maria Maria said...
“Everyone has already heard the arguments for and against returning the graduation ceremony to The Pit so there’s no reason to spend a lot of time rehashing what’s already been said. The only issue left to be decided is what most of the parents want to do. We believe that most of the parents want the ceremony to be held in The Pit. So our only request is that you authorize a vote so that we can see what the parents want. If most of them want to hold the ceremony at the Star Center, then we should hold it at the Star Center; if most of the parents want to return to the Pit, then that’s what we should do. If you feel you can’t authorize a vote, then the only fair decision is to return the ceremony to The Pit given that the decision was made without sufficient public input.
Further, the decision to move the ceremony to the Star Center disproportionately inconveniences larger families, many of whom happen to be Hispanic.”
April 6, 2007 2:06 PM
Theodore said...
“Everyone has already heard the arguments for and against returning the graduation ceremony to The Pit so there’s no reason to spend a lot of time rehashing what’s already been said. The only issue left to be decided is what most of the parents want to do. We believe that most of the parents want the ceremony to be held in The Pit. So our only request is that you authorize a vote so that we can see what the parents want. If most of them want to hold the ceremony at the Star Center, then we should hold it at the Star Center; if most of the parents want to return to the Pit, then that’s what we should do. If you feel you can’t authorize a vote, then the only fair decision is to return the ceremony to The Pit given that the decision was made without sufficient public input.
Further, the decision to move the ceremony to the Star Center disproportionately inconveniences larger families, many of whom happen to be Hispanic.”
April 6, 2007 2:06 PM
The Observer should have said...
“Everyone has already heard the arguments for and against returning the graduation ceremony to The Pit so there’s no reason to spend a lot of time rehashing what’s already been said. The only issue left to be decided is what most of the parents want to do. We believe that most of the parents want the ceremony to be held in The Pit. So our only request is that you authorize a vote so that we can see what the parents want. If most of them want to hold the ceremony at the Star Center, then we should hold it at the Star Center; if most of the parents want to return to the Pit, then that’s what we should do. If you feel you can’t authorize a vote, then the only fair decision is to return the ceremony to The Pit given that the decision was made without sufficient public input.
Further, the decision to move the ceremony to the Star Center disproportionately inconveniences larger families, many of whom happen to be Hispanic.”
April 6, 2007 2:06 PM
Senior 2007 said...
“Everyone has already heard the arguments for and against returning the graduation ceremony to The Pit so there’s no reason to spend a lot of time rehashing what’s already been said. The only issue left to be decided is what most of the parents want to do. We believe that most of the parents want the ceremony to be held in The Pit. So our only request is that you authorize a vote so that we can see what the parents want. If most of them want to hold the ceremony at the Star Center, then we should hold it at the Star Center; if most of the parents want to return to the Pit, then that’s what we should do. If you feel you can’t authorize a vote, then the only fair decision is to return the ceremony to The Pit given that the decision was made without sufficient public input.
Further, the decision to move the ceremony to the Star Center disproportionately inconveniences larger families, many of whom happen to be Hispanic.”
April 6, 2007 2:07 PM
Billy said...
“Everyone has already heard the arguments for and against returning the graduation ceremony to The Pit so there’s no reason to spend a lot of time rehashing what’s already been said. The only issue left to be decided is what most of the parents want to do. We believe that most of the parents want the ceremony to be held in The Pit. So our only request is that you authorize a vote so that we can see what the parents want. If most of them want to hold the ceremony at the Star Center, then we should hold it at the Star Center; if most of the parents want to return to the Pit, then that’s what we should do. If you feel you can’t authorize a vote, then the only fair decision is to return the ceremony to The Pit given that the decision was made without sufficient public input.
Further, the decision to move the ceremony to the Star Center disproportionately inconveniences larger families, many of whom happen to be Hispanic.”
April 6, 2007 2:07 PM
Connie said...
“Everyone has already heard the arguments for and against returning the graduation ceremony to The Pit so there’s no reason to spend a lot of time rehashing what’s already been said. The only issue left to be decided is what most of the parents want to do. We believe that most of the parents want the ceremony to be held in The Pit. So our only request is that you authorize a vote so that we can see what the parents want. If most of them want to hold the ceremony at the Star Center, then we should hold it at the Star Center; if most of the parents want to return to the Pit, then that’s what we should do. If you feel you can’t authorize a vote, then the only fair decision is to return the ceremony to The Pit given that the decision was made without sufficient public input.
Further, the decision to move the ceremony to the Star Center disproportionately inconveniences larger families, many of whom happen to be Hispanic.”
April 6, 2007 2:08 PM
Nate said...
“Everyone has already heard the arguments for and against returning the graduation ceremony to The Pit so there’s no reason to spend a lot of time rehashing what’s already been said. The only issue left to be decided is what most of the parents want to do. We believe that most of the parents want the ceremony to be held in The Pit. So our only request is that you authorize a vote so that we can see what the parents want. If most of them want to hold the ceremony at the Star Center, then we should hold it at the Star Center; if most of the parents want to return to the Pit, then that’s what we should do. If you feel you can’t authorize a vote, then the only fair decision is to return the ceremony to The Pit given that the decision was made without sufficient public input.
Further, the decision to move the ceremony to the Star Center disproportionately inconveniences larger families, many of whom happen to be Hispanic.”
April 6, 2007 2:08 PM
Esqui said...
“Everyone has already heard the arguments for and against returning the graduation ceremony to The Pit so there’s no reason to spend a lot of time rehashing what’s already been said. The only issue left to be decided is what most of the parents want to do. We believe that most of the parents want the ceremony to be held in The Pit. So our only request is that you authorize a vote so that we can see what the parents want. If most of them want to hold the ceremony at the Star Center, then we should hold it at the Star Center; if most of the parents want to return to the Pit, then that’s what we should do. If you feel you can’t authorize a vote, then the only fair decision is to return the ceremony to The Pit given that the decision was made without sufficient public input.
Further, the decision to move the ceremony to the Star Center disproportionately inconveniences larger families, many of whom happen to be Hispanic.”
April 6, 2007 2:08 PM
Emile said...
“Everyone has already heard the arguments for and against returning the graduation ceremony to The Pit so there’s no reason to spend a lot of time rehashing what’s already been said. The only issue left to be decided is what most of the parents want to do. We believe that most of the parents want the ceremony to be held in The Pit. So our only request is that you authorize a vote so that we can see what the parents want. If most of them want to hold the ceremony at the Star Center, then we should hold it at the Star Center; if most of the parents want to return to the Pit, then that’s what we should do. If you feel you can’t authorize a vote, then the only fair decision is to return the ceremony to The Pit given that the decision was made without sufficient public input.
Further, the decision to move the ceremony to the Star Center disproportionately inconveniences larger families, many of whom happen to be Hispanic.”
April 6, 2007 2:09 PM
Nocturnals said...
“Everyone has already heard the arguments for and against returning the graduation ceremony to The Pit so there’s no reason to spend a lot of time rehashing what’s already been said. The only issue left to be decided is what most of the parents want to do. We believe that most of the parents want the ceremony to be held in The Pit. So our only request is that you authorize a vote so that we can see what the parents want. If most of them want to hold the ceremony at the Star Center, then we should hold it at the Star Center; if most of the parents want to return to the Pit, then that’s what we should do. If you feel you can’t authorize a vote, then the only fair decision is to return the ceremony to The Pit given that the decision was made without sufficient public input.
Further, the decision to move the ceremony to the Star Center disproportionately inconveniences larger families, many of whom happen to be Hispanic.”
April 6, 2007 2:09 PM
Barbara said...
“Everyone has already heard the arguments for and against returning the graduation ceremony to The Pit so there’s no reason to spend a lot of time rehashing what’s already been said. The only issue left to be decided is what most of the parents want to do. We believe that most of the parents want the ceremony to be held in The Pit. So our only request is that you authorize a vote so that we can see what the parents want. If most of them want to hold the ceremony at the Star Center, then we should hold it at the Star Center; if most of the parents want to return to the Pit, then that’s what we should do. If you feel you can’t authorize a vote, then the only fair decision is to return the ceremony to The Pit given that the decision was made without sufficient public input.
Further, the decision to move the ceremony to the Star Center disproportionately inconveniences larger families, many of whom happen to be Hispanic.”
April 6, 2007 2:09 PM
Sancho said...
“Everyone has already heard the arguments for and against returning the graduation ceremony to The Pit so there’s no reason to spend a lot of time rehashing what’s already been said. The only issue left to be decided is what most of the parents want to do. We believe that most of the parents want the ceremony to be held in The Pit. So our only request is that you authorize a vote so that we can see what the parents want. If most of them want to hold the ceremony at the Star Center, then we should hold it at the Star Center; if most of the parents want to return to the Pit, then that’s what we should do. If you feel you can’t authorize a vote, then the only fair decision is to return the ceremony to The Pit given that the decision was made without sufficient public input.
Further, the decision to move the ceremony to the Star Center disproportionately inconveniences larger families, many of whom happen to be Hispanic.”
April 6, 2007 2:09 PM
G said...
“Everyone has already heard the arguments for and against returning the graduation ceremony to The Pit so there’s no reason to spend a lot of time rehashing what’s already been said. The only issue left to be decided is what most of the parents want to do. We believe that most of the parents want the ceremony to be held in The Pit. So our only request is that you authorize a vote so that we can see what the parents want. If most of them want to hold the ceremony at the Star Center, then we should hold it at the Star Center; if most of the parents want to return to the Pit, then that’s what we should do. If you feel you can’t authorize a vote, then the only fair decision is to return the ceremony to The Pit given that the decision was made without sufficient public input.
Further, the decision to move the ceremony to the Star Center disproportionately inconveniences larger families, many of whom happen to be Hispanic.”
April 6, 2007 2:10 PM
El said...
“Everyone has already heard the arguments for and against returning the graduation ceremony to The Pit so there’s no reason to spend a lot of time rehashing what’s already been said. The only issue left to be decided is what most of the parents want to do. We believe that most of the parents want the ceremony to be held in The Pit. So our only request is that you authorize a vote so that we can see what the parents want. If most of them want to hold the ceremony at the Star Center, then we should hold it at the Star Center; if most of the parents want to return to the Pit, then that’s what we should do. If you feel you can’t authorize a vote, then the only fair decision is to return the ceremony to The Pit given that the decision was made without sufficient public input.
Further, the decision to move the ceremony to the Star Center disproportionately inconveniences larger families, many of whom happen to be Hispanic.”
April 6, 2007 2:10 PM
Teo said...
“Everyone has already heard the arguments for and against returning the graduation ceremony to The Pit so there’s no reason to spend a lot of time rehashing what’s already been said. The only issue left to be decided is what most of the parents want to do. We believe that most of the parents want the ceremony to be held in The Pit. So our only request is that you authorize a vote so that we can see what the parents want. If most of them want to hold the ceremony at the Star Center, then we should hold it at the Star Center; if most of the parents want to return to the Pit, then that’s what we should do. If you feel you can’t authorize a vote, then the only fair decision is to return the ceremony to The Pit given that the decision was made without sufficient public input.
Further, the decision to move the ceremony to the Star Center disproportionately inconveniences larger families, many of whom happen to be Hispanic.”
April 6, 2007 2:10 PM
Val said...
“Everyone has already heard the arguments for and against returning the graduation ceremony to The Pit so there’s no reason to spend a lot of time rehashing what’s already been said. The only issue left to be decided is what most of the parents want to do. We believe that most of the parents want the ceremony to be held in The Pit. So our only request is that you authorize a vote so that we can see what the parents want. If most of them want to hold the ceremony at the Star Center, then we should hold it at the Star Center; if most of the parents want to return to the Pit, then that’s what we should do. If you feel you can’t authorize a vote, then the only fair decision is to return the ceremony to The Pit given that the decision was made without sufficient public input.
Further, the decision to move the ceremony to the Star Center disproportionately inconveniences larger families, many of whom happen to be Hispanic.”
April 6, 2007 2:11 PM
i said...
“Everyone has already heard the arguments for and against returning the graduation ceremony to The Pit so there’s no reason to spend a lot of time rehashing what’s already been said. The only issue left to be decided is what most of the parents want to do. We believe that most of the parents want the ceremony to be held in The Pit. So our only request is that you authorize a vote so that we can see what the parents want. If most of them want to hold the ceremony at the Star Center, then we should hold it at the Star Center; if most of the parents want to return to the Pit, then that’s what we should do. If you feel you can’t authorize a vote, then the only fair decision is to return the ceremony to The Pit given that the decision was made without sufficient public input.
Further, the decision to move the ceremony to the Star Center disproportionately inconveniences larger families, many of whom happen to be Hispanic.”
April 6, 2007 2:11 PM
I agree said...
Surely we have legal rights?
Each School Board member is sworn in by a judge and their oath of service maintains they must uphold the Constitution of the United States as well as the school's, isn't this a direct violation of "due process", fair process, or any equal and "good faith" standards that adhere to our Constitution and what they were founded on? I have personally heard that Dr. Cleveland is "fair" and we are absolutely counting on that in this matter.
April 6, 2007 2:19 PM
Bringing it ALL BACK HOME said...
Surely we have legal rights?
Each School Board member is sworn in by a judge and their oath of service maintains they must uphold the Constitution of the United States as well as the school's, isn't this a direct violation of "due process", fair process, or any equal and "good faith" standards that adhere to our Constitution and what they were founded on? I have personally heard that Dr. Cleveland is "fair" and we are absolutely counting on that in this matter.
April 6, 2007 2:40 PM
Uncle A said...
Going back to the Pit is a great idea. For many students this is there only claim to fame. Relatives would like to attend the ceremony and the Pit can hold more people who obviously would like to attend. Having a graduation with limited seating is archaic and so bourgeois. Step up to the plate and give family a chance to celebate this momentous occasion. Many have to travel great distances. Do you remember how they treated Mary and Joseph, there was no room at the inn. Don't do the same to the greates class of Rio Rancho's history, the class of 2007.
April 6, 2007 2:43 PM
Plan to Fail said...
“Fail to Plan
Plan to Fail”
"We'll have to have cable."
"What are you doing for DISH subscribers?"
You are trying to put a band-aid on a severe wound
Thanks Malone
Aubry
April 6, 2007 2:43 PM
Anonymous said...
We need your help everyone must be united. We can sign a thousand petitions, but they’re NOT going to go back. PLEASE let there be a fair vote. We need to continue to show that we want THE PIT back. Please call Yvette for more info 994-9648 thanks for all your support.
April 6, 2007 2:47 PM
Senior 2007 said...
Gary Herron from the Rio Rancho paper was very wrong for trying to put an age limit on who may attend the graduation.
The way I see it as a senior, is we are role models for the younger children to stay in school so they will accomplish this in their life.
It teaches children that if we can do it they can do it too just stay in school and do good.
It is wrong to not let them go then it just makes them think well since I may not attend to see them graduate why should they?
It is also making Herron look really bad for trying to say that children 10 years and under should stay home with a babysitter.
Why dont he stay home himself?
We seniors are really good role models for those that are younger so they will want to stay in school.
IT shows them that anything we put our minds to and make goals we can accomplish.
We Need to go back to the Pit so everyone may attend no matter what the age is.
April 6, 2007 2:51 PM
To Dr. Cleveland said...
Dr. Sue Cleveland,
Thousands of people will not be allowed to attend the graduation. It is imperative you put this to a vote. All seniors and their families, not just those who complained after the 2006 graduation.
Jack
April 6, 2007 6:13 PM
To Dr. Sue Clevleland said...
RRPS left parents out of a significant decision.The PIT will hold 13,000 people.The Star Center 5500.This is the largest graduating class.Plans should have been vote on by the people it most affects.Last year the PIT was packed with families and the graduating class was not as large.Go back now.
Eli
April 6, 2007 8:13 PM
Kool Website said...
AWESOME!
Doc Clevelander,
Yo!
This is bogus!
Don't rip off the masses!
Let em VOTE!
ROCK THE VOTE!
April 6, 2007 8:17 PM
The good DR. said...
Get it?
Got it?
Good?
Go Back
April 6, 2007 8:21 PM
SCHOOL BOARD MEETING 4/9 said...
THE SCHOOL BOARD MEETING
Monday April 9 at 5:00 pm
ANYONE THAT CAN ATTEND PLEASE GO
HAVE FAMILY MEMBERS-FRIENDS-ANYONE
WHO WANTS TO SUPPORT THE MOVE TO THE PIT
PLEASE GO
CALL ME IF YOU KNOW FOR SURE THAT YOU ARE GOING TO ATTEND
SO WE CAN ALL GET TOGETHER BEFORE THAT DATE
MY NUMBER AGAIN IS 994-9648
OR EMAIL ME AT nanee_angel@yahoo.com
April 6, 2007 8:22 PM
The Contract Dr. Cleveland said...
Before any contracts were signed
Note:
RRPS received my comment at the very beginning when this all started - and before any contracts were signed!
The decision to move the 2007 graduation was handled improperly and was the wrong decision. Parents should have been surveyed prior to the decision. Please let me know who was responsible for this decision. The current class sizes are too large to try to graduate anywhere smaller than the Pit. My wife and I have 5 children, one of which graduates this year. My parents, who have already bought airline tickets from Ohio, my wife's parent's and a couple sisters plan to attend just like the past two years. Who do I get to leave home with my allotment of six tickets? I know there will be many other people in the same situation. Do you really expect people to return their six tickets? The only chance I have of letting my family share the occasion is to find some friend who isn't using all of their tickets. I highly recommend you reconsider the decision and keep the Pit location while you still can.
April 6, 2007 8:24 PM
Dr. Cleveland, Mayor Jackson, Corporate Sponsors, The Observer said...
The schools truly try to teach Honesty, Integrity, Fairness, Democracy to name a few.
But SADLY, and I do mean SADLY, they don’t practice what they preach starting at the very TOP!
I copied this from another comment but I really thought it really hit the nail on the head.
Dr. Cleveland, Mayor Jackson, Corporate Sponsors, The Observer this is DISCRIMINATION!
Christian
April 6, 2007 8:32 PM
SCHOOL BOARD MEETING 4/9 said...
THE SCHOOL BOARD MEETING
Monday April 9 at 5:00 pm
ANYONE THAT CAN ATTEND PLEASE GO
HAVE FAMILY MEMBERS-FRIENDS-ANYONE
WHO WANTS TO SUPPORT THE MOVE TO THE PIT
PLEASE GO
CALL ME IF YOU KNOW FOR SURE THAT YOU ARE GOING TO ATTEND
SO WE CAN ALL GET TOGETHER BEFORE THAT DATE
MY NUMBER AGAIN IS 994-9648
OR EMAIL ME AT nanee_angel@yahoo.com
April 7, 2007 7:54 AM
To DR. Cleveland said...
"Precious moments" in time, that is what is special in life.
Watching your son or daughter graduate IN PERSON is an important "precious moment", truly a celebration.
It is not about us it is about THEM!
IT REALLY IS ABOUT ALL OF US!
The graduates have earned it through 12 years of study.
THEIR FAMILIES ARE SO PROUD!
We applaud all of those teachers and school staff that helped them along the way.
Thank you and God Bless.
Dr. Cleveland do the right thing, THOUSANDS ARE BEING ALIENATED from this grand event, your decision is WRONG!
Ross
April 7, 2007 8:06 AM
Me TOO Dr. Cleveland! said...
Each School Board member is sworn in by a judge and their oath of service maintains they must uphold the Constitution of the United States as well as the school's, isn't this a direct violation of "due process", fair process, or any equal and "good faith" standards that adhere to our Constitution and what they were founded on? I have personally heard that Dr. Cleveland is "fair" and we are absolutely counting on that in this matter.
Laurie
April 7, 2007 8:14 AM
go back said...
GO BACK!
April 7, 2007 9:24 AM
Attn: Dr. Sue Cleveland said...
Dr. Cleveland and RRPS,
I believe we have our accurate facts listed here numerous times. So, like an echo, Dr. Cleveland, “it is NOT why you imposed your decision, IT IS HOW you imposed your decision.” I understand you actually took the time to meet with some parents. We all are coming from different points of view but agree on the main issues. I have read the different emails being passed along and I for one need you to understand I fortunately have secured some extra tickets. BUT THERE ARE FOUR FAMILY MEMBERS IN FROM OUT OF TOWN THAT WON’T BE ABLE TO ATTEND AND IT WAS NOT EASY HUSLTING DOWN THE EXTRA ONES EITHER, IT WAS A PAIN. My family won’t have enough there are many more families that also won’t. I want you to know it was VERY difficult figuring who got to go and who didn’t. That is where I agree with the comments calling this matter discrimination. The only reason I was able to secure those tickets is because of all the parents that I know, I really feel for the families that need extra tickets and don’t know as many people that I do. This makes their task all the more difficult. I heard you apologized; I have a much better suggestion, let US VOTE.
EACH SCHOOL BOARD MEMBER IS SWORN IN BY A JUDGE AND THEIR OATH OF SERVICE MAINTAINS THEY MUST UPHOLD THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES AS WELL AS THE SCHOOL'S, ISN'T THIS A DIRECT VIOLATION OF "DUE PROCESS", FAIR PROCESS, OR ANY EQUAL AND "GOOD FAITH" STANDARDS THAT ADHERE TO OUR CONSTITUTION AND WHAT THEY WERE FOUNDED ON? I HAVE PERSONALLY HEARD THAT DR. CLEVELAND IS "FAIR" AND WE ARE ABSOLUTELY COUNTING ON THAT IN THIS MATTER.
Shirley
April 7, 2007 2:09 PM
To Dr. Cleveland said...
Doc let's PACK THE PIT!
Capacity of the Pit:
18,000 plus can fit.
A section is blocked off so now 12,000 can fit.
They had to open up that section for last year’s graduation for us because we had the largest Class, which meant more people.
The 2007 Class is even Bigger, which will mean more people.
The media and school started out saying that 690 Seniors would be graduating; NOW they are saying 770 Seniors are graduating.
That means their figures were off and there will be more people coming.
Do you realize the graduating Class WILL be even bigger as each year goes by?
The section can be opened up so 13,000, 15,000 or up to 18,000 people as needed.
IF YOU DON’T THINK THE NUMBERS ARE CORRECT, CALL THE PIT.
A local newspaper reporter (Gary Herron) is trying to say 11,000 would come BUT remember, he is basing it on what he thinks last years’ numbers were, but he his wrong. Then he suggests that 10 years old and under CANNOT attend the graduation! Can you believe that? He is WRONG on last years’ numbers because they had to open up the section that is closed off, so there were more then 11,000 people present, this means more will come this year along with anyone under the age of 10!
Rio Rancho year in and year out AVERAGES roughly 20 people per graduate. That is an average.
Whatever numbers you want to use the fact remains the same 11,000+ to 15,000+ people are being affected by this decision.
“Let me play the devil’s advocate”, (like Gary did) WHAT IS WRONG WITH RIO RANCHO “PACKING THE PIT” FOR A GRADUATION?
We should be proud we did! Isn’t it true that Sue Cleveland and company, Gary Herron and Coach Brian Smith exhorted and hoped that we would “Pack The Pit” for all of basketball games?
Didn’t Mayor Jackson show his support and come out for the game; I think that is Great that he showed his support over a GAME?
QUOTING: Mayor Kevin Jackson said the development of the city's school district has given Rio Rancho a sense of identity.
"We didn't have that when I was growing up," said Jackson, who has lived in Rio Rancho since the 1960s and plans to attend tonight's championship. "There's an elevation in pride in how well the teams have done, not just in athletics, but in academic, student government and all the student-related programs."
QUOTING: "You saw the crowd tonight," Rio Rancho coach Brian Smith said after the Rams semifinal win Thursday night at The Pit. "There are 70,000 people in Rio Rancho. This place should be packed. Where is everybody?"
I think this was Great too showing support and networking with others!
QUOTING: Sarah Stevenson, a team manager, hung flyers around the sprawling Rio Rancho campus Thursday to promote the game.
"I saw a lot of people stopping to look at them and a lot of people asked me about the game," Stevenson said.
Her mother, who works at a local elementary school, told Stevenson that e-mails about Rams basketball have been flowing into her inbox. Gary did you do these interviews? No that was an Albuquerque Tribune reporter.
Consider then we want to “PACK THE PIT” for a sporting event, AND I DO TOO, why not “PACK THE PIT” for RRPS’s BIGGEST EVENT, their High School Graduation?!
I would hope our Mayor that showed that much enthusiasm for a “game” would show more for the WRONG being imposed on the Class of 2007.
I would hope Sue Cleveland and company, along with Gary Herron and other media that showed that much enthusiasm for a “game” would show more for the WRONG being imposed on the Class of 2007 especially our Seniors our children!
Weren’t we condemned and criticized in the news, in public for our emails and networking to get this situation changed?
Mayor Jackson, Sue Cleveland and company, Gary Herron, the Ryans and other media, which is more important a “game” or a graduation? I feel they are both important.
What about the fact that several thousands are affected men, women and children?
What about the fact an injustice has been dealt them?
What is wrong with anyone striving for:
“We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed, by their Creator, with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness”
“GO BACK TO THE PIT – PACK THE PIT” anyone under 10 are welcome too!
Surely we have legal rights?
Each School Board member is sworn in by a judge and their oath of service maintains they must uphold the Constitution of the United States as well as the school's, isn't this a direct violation of "due process", fair process, or any equal and "good faith" standards that adhere to our Constitution and what they were founded on? I have personally heard that Dr. Cleveland is "fair" and we are absolutely counting on that in this matter.
“Everyone has already heard the arguments for and against returning the graduation ceremony to The Pit so there’s no reason to spend a lot of time rehashing what’s already been said. The only issue left to be decided is what most of the parents want to do. We believe that most of the parents want the ceremony to be held in The Pit. So our only request is that you authorize a vote so that we can see what the parents want. If most of them want to hold the ceremony at the Star Center, then we should hold it at the Star Center; if most of the parents want to return to the Pit, then that’s what we should do. If you feel you can’t authorize a vote, then the only fair decision is to return the ceremony to The Pit given that the decision was made without sufficient public input.
Further, the decision to move the ceremony to the Star Center disproportionately inconveniences larger families, many of whom happen to be Hispanic.”
Lorenzo
April 7, 2007 2:48 PM
To Dr. Cleveland said...
Dear Dr. Cleveland
Read the comments submitted to this website.
The school’s decision is seriously wrong, no matter the reasons this is grossly unjust. I have heard all of the explanations pro and con, and you continue full speed ahead. Sure, life is not fair, but what about right and wrong? You advised some parents “I wish we had it to do over again”. Hmmm…….you have time to do it over again.
1. Allow seniors and their families to vote.
2. Why, because you have already allowed input from some of the public and your staff and then acted on it.
3. You have not allowed input by everyone that is directly affected.
4. You will then know which is location to use.
5. If you don’t allow this vote then take the graduation back to The Pit.
6. Dr. Cleveland you are being advised and influenced by persons that have their own motives and interests. Of course businesses and the mayor offer their support but they are overlooking some critical facts.
7. My motive here is simply this, our children, if you don’t allow this vote or change this back Dr. Cleveland, then you have to understand your decision is discriminatory, unfair and was not done in “good faith”.
8. Further, if you allow your current course to continue you are then absolutely negligent in your constitutional duties that govern not only your subordinates but also our children.
9. Consider if you will, you have had students motivated enough to prepare petitions, you had families come together to question your decision, because no one would listen to their concerns.
10. Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
Darlene
April 7, 2007 7:34 PM
“what we got here is failure to communicate” said...
Dr. Cleveland, RRPS, Mayor Jackson, The Observer,
We all know right from wrong:
“what we got here is failure to communicate”
April 7, 2007 9:10 PM
Call Yvette 994-9648 said...
Yes, Call Yvette 994-9648
We have started a Hard Copy paper PETITION and if you would like to sign it, please call me and I will meet you to get it signed.
My number again is 994-9648.
April 7, 2007 10:03 PM
Happy Easter said...
Happy Easter,
and Dr. Cleveland
"do the right thing"
let us VOTE,
or go back!
April 8, 2007 11:55 AM
GRADUATE OF 2007 said...
HEY EVERYONE SCHOOL BOARD MEETING TOMORROW APRIL 9,2007 WE NEED YOU BE TO THERE BY 5:00PM AT THE SCHOOL DISTRICT OFFICE. WE NEED ALL THE SUPPORT WE CAN GET TO SHOW THEM ITS NOT ONLY A FEW OF US THAT WANT IT AT THE PIT.
ATTN SENIORS: WE NEED ALL OF YOU TO GET A WHITE T-SHIRT SAYING IF THE CHOICE IS OURS WE WANT THE PIT. WEAR THEM TO SCHOOL TOMORROW(MONDAY) AND TO THE SCHOOL BOARD MEETING.
April 8, 2007 1:18 PM
ATTENTION SENIORS: said...
ATTN SENIORS:
WE NEED ALL OF YOU TO GET A WHITE T-SHIRT SAYING IF THE CHOICE IS OURS WE WANT THE PIT. WEAR THEM TO SCHOOL TOMORROW(MONDAY) AND TO THE SCHOOL BOARD MEETING.
April 8, 2007 1:25 PM
Anonymous said...
Is there anything in the state of New Mexico, indoors, with 35,000 seats?
April 8, 2007 7:51 PM
RRPS employee said...
My fellow Rio Rancho Public School employees and Dr. Sue Cleveland:
I for one would like to reflect, “here's a situation that disproportionately affects large families. Is it an ‘unintended consequence’ that most of the large families who will have to pare down their numbers to 6 or 8, are Hispanic?
Is it “arrogance and thoughtlessness” or are we all just “Victims of political posturing”?
Is it true "The proof is in the pudding"?
Is it really discrimination?
Is it ok for The Observer, etc., to batter persons that in truth are only exercising their First Amendment Rights?
Who is really being “underhanded and nasty at best”?
Is it fair anyone under the age of 10 years old can’t attend any graduations?
Is it true families along with their graduates are being adversely affected by this last minute decision?
Is it true the “many” that wanted the graduation here in Rio Rancho because of the 2006 graduation problems, were only “one hundred” people?
Is it true seniors and their families were not allowed to vote?
Is it true this will impact 10 to 14,000 people this year?
Is it true you can break the contract?
Is it true that Dr. Cleveland said, “I wish I had this to do over again” referring the current decision?
Is it true, traveling to the graduation, parking and leaving the graduation is going to make for “one fun day”?
Is it true The Pit is ranked number 13 in the world?
Is it true Mayor Kevin Jackson along with other businesses are doing “all they can to keep this in Rio Rancho”?
Is it true we have an interesting list of “corporate sponsors”?
Is it true that students from “Cibola High School caused most of the uproar at last year’s graduation” and The Observer and all other naysayers have it all wrong by blaming “cousins” and extended family?
Is it true if The Observer actually placed a “real” reporter to ask tough questions that they would have found out that “fact” along with all the others?
Is it true RRPS is keeping the so called “contract” on “the down low” because the “corporate sponsors” “cut us one helluva deal, spanning the next 3 to 5 years and they don’t want to get the next graduation classes for 2008, 2009, and 2010 riled up yet?
Is it true Mr. VonAncken always tells students in his speeches “the choice is yours” but the reality is not this time?
Is it true the school board does not have any Hispanics on it?
Is it true the “parent council” does not have any Hispanics on it?
RRPS employee
April 8, 2007 8:50 PM
African proverb: said...
"It takes a village to raise a child."
"But only part of that village is allowed to attend the child's graduation" S. Andrade
April 8, 2007 9:08 PM
KOAT-TV said...
Newcast on 4/8 stated, the decision to change the graduation from The Pit to the Star Center was principal Richard VonAncken’s decision and that Dr. Sue Cleveland approved Mr. VonAncken's decision. Also, the school board has NO intentions of changing Mr. VonAncken’s decision.
April 8, 2007 9:19 PM
KOAT TV said...
the link:
www.koat.com/video/11577440/index.html?taf=alb
Newcast on 4/8 stated, the decision to change the graduation from The Pit to the Star Center was principal Richard VonAncken’s decision and that Dr. Sue Cleveland approved Mr. VonAncken's decision. Also, the school board has NO intentions of changing Mr. VonAncken’s decision.
April 9, 2007 6:33 AM
Gidge said...
Folks,
Myself, my husband and one other parent met with Dr. Cleveland this morning to discuss the graduation. She was not aware that it had been announced on the news broadcast that the board had no intention of changing. She was curious to know where that came from.
PLEASE SHOW UP TO THE BOARD MEETING TODAY AT 5PM! Dr. Cleveland DID NOT say that they WOULD NOT change it! IF YOU ARE TRULY DISPLEASED WITH THE CURRENT SITUATION, PLEASE MAKE EVERY EFFORT TO ATTEND THE MEETING TODAY!
Gidge
April 9, 2007 10:42 AM
TODAY School Board Meeting said...
School Board Meeting TODAY:
Get there BEFORE 5:30 if at all possible
5 PM is best,
But EVEN if you are running late due to work or traffic,
come anyway,
because they usually cover other matters before people start speaking
so please go ahead and come.
District office, 500 Laser Rd. Rio Rancho, NM 87124
505-896-0667
April 9, 2007 11:46 AM
Anonymous said...
MY SISTER IS GRADUATING AND I WON'T SEE HER. THIS IS UPSETTING COME ON CLEAVLAND WE WANT THE GRADUATION AT THE PIT
April 9, 2007 3:45 PM
LET US VOTE said...
We WANT to vote. America is about DEMOCRACY in accordance to the United States Constitution.
Nick
April 9, 2007 4:06 PM
RRPS School Board Meetin said...
CONGRATULATIONS TO STUDENTS, FAMILIES AND LOVED ONES THAT PACKED THE SCHOOL BOARD MEETING!!
Even several news affiliates made it!!
NOW WE WANT TO PACK THE PIT!
NEXT SCHOOL BOARD IS April 23, 2007
Austin
April 9, 2007 7:05 PM
Anonymous said...
Congratulations for what?
April 9, 2007 7:14 PM
BRAVO!! said...
BRAVO!!
TO ALL STUDENTS, FAMILIES AND LOVED ONES
“For the sake of our children”
PACK THE PIT!
Rod
April 9, 2007 7:38 PM
"Do not go gentle into that good night" said...
SENIORS "Do not go gentle into that good night"
2007 SENIORS ROCK!
Jesse
April 9, 2007 8:05 PM
"Rage, rage against the dying of the light" said...
SENIORS, "Rage, rage against the dying of the light"
SENIOR 2007
Mark
April 9, 2007 8:09 PM
ALL SENIORS said...
SENIORS, “Bless, me now with your fierce tears, I pray…
Do not go gentle into that good night…
Rage, rage against the dying of the light”
ALL SENIORS, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010!
April 9, 2007 8:13 PM
AN EMAIL SENT TO ME said...
"No matter what they (RRPS) end up doing please don't forget,
'The class of 2007 and their families were NOT allowed or asked for input, (the decision) discriminates against ANYONE that needs more than 6 or 8 tickets.'
And because of this 'thousands' are being affected.
Surely they must be better stewards of our children?"
Kenny
April 9, 2007 8:23 PM
Question re: Board meeting said...
Hi, I just caught part of the news coverage on channel 7 and 13 tonight, they showed a brief clip of Dr. V. Sue Cleveland saying "they did things wrong". Can anyone quote everything she said?
Dick
April 9, 2007 9:22 PM
KOAT-TV said...
5TH newscast:
the link:
www.koat.com/video/11593262/index.html?taf=alb
April 9, 2007 10:58 PM
Dr. Cleveland's comments caught on camera said...
Dr. V. Sue Cleveland,
Updated, please disregard my earlier email, thank you.
You stated on camera 04/09/07 that parents were given 4 months notice about your decision.
Feel free to rebut this.
Please know there were several families that never received the “letter” from the school, which informed about the change. It is my understanding that Mrs. Gidget Anaya testified to you concerning how the “letter” arrived. You were advised if parents was not paying attention and did not read thoroughly through all of the documents that were mailed along with the “letter” about the graduation being changed, the “letter” was easily missed. Because the “letter” about the change was not the first document, it was among the other documents but a more “oh by the way” type deal. NO emphasis was given over a very critical matter and letter.
Thanks to KOAT-TV being on the ball that is in part how the information spread that a changed occurred. Further, no one from your office or the principal’s office would return her calls. There were others that did not know because they did not get the letter or see the news story. So, word was reaching a portion of families in March, but not everyone knew.
Dr. Cleveland, from March to April is one month, from April to May would make it 2 months. So roughly 2 months notice were given not 4 months as you stated on camera. Even into late March there were several families that were completely unaware of the change and the news coverage.
I wanted to make sure of this because “The Observer” gave parents hell for misinformation. That also causes me great concern because not everyone received the “letter”?
Again, please rebut any of this.
Everyone is saying things to benefit “their side”, the fact still remains, “thousands” are being affected and your decision is “wrong and discriminatory.”
Parents “in the know” have been trying to contact you since March concerning this, not until 04/06/07 did you finally allow meetings with a few parents. Many more parents wanted to meet with you but could not get time off around the very short notice you gave. And, not until you had put even more effort in keeping the graduation in Rio Rancho and now have tried to rationalize your "wrong"!
Prior to those recent meetings you finally allowed, you were not returning calls, or contacting families that tried to communicate with you. You were “passing them off” to your subordinates that basically were giving families template statements and “it’s a done deal” speech while clinging to the “contract is signed” rhetoric.
SADLY, you and your staff played upon our ignorance, who has the time and energy to really challenge this the way it should be? “The Observer” and the Ryan’s literally “attacked” anyone that dare speak up, “shame on them”! Even “anonymous” persons added their “nasty and bigoted” remarks. Literally putting down relatives and extended family along with telling advertisers to “move back to Mexico. (It now comes out according to you that “Cibola students” were the culprits, and we were falsely accused, but who cared because the attitude was “how dare we”, speak up! Reminds me of “Oliver Twist”, yes a child, asking for “more gruel”!) Dr. Cleveland, regarding “Cibola students” I would caution you to make sure your facts are dead on, that is a very serious accusation, one word “hearsay” and two more words "falsely accused".
I hope one of the families that spoke especially those Rio Rancho students touched your heart, they did mine. I was told you said you "cry at the graduations" and one mother broke down in tears in another meeting with you and told you her graduate had been crying over this!
Stop now Dr. Cleveland before it really is too late, "do the right thing" and change this back! All of your efforts and energy to keep the graduation in Rio Rancho DO NOT RIGHT THIS WRONG!
AN EMAIL SENT TO ME said...
"No matter what they (RRPS) end up doing please don't forget,
'The class of 2007 and their families were NOT allowed or asked for input, (the decision) discriminates against ANYONE that needs more than 6 or 8 tickets.'
And because of this 'thousands' are being affected.
Surely they must be better stewards of our children?"
Surely we have legal rights?
Each School Board member is sworn in by a judge and their oath of service maintains they must uphold the Constitution of the United States as well as the school's, isn't this a direct violation of "due process", fair process, or any equal and "good faith" standards that adhere to our Constitution and what they were founded on? We have personally heard that Dr. Cleveland is "fair" and we are absolutely counting on that in this matter.
“Everyone has already heard the arguments for and against returning the graduation ceremony to The Pit so there’s no reason to spend a lot of time rehashing what’s already been said. The only issue left to be decided is what most of the parents want to do. We believe that most of the parents want the ceremony to be held in The Pit. So our only request is that you authorize a vote so that we can see what the parents want. If most of them want to hold the ceremony at the Star Center, then we should hold it at the Star Center; if most of the parents want to return to the Pit, then that’s what we should do. If you feel you can’t authorize a vote, then the only fair decision is to return the ceremony to The Pit given that the decision was made without sufficient public input.
Further, the decision to move the ceremony to the Star Center disproportionately inconveniences larger families, many of whom happen to be Hispanic.”
Hello,
Please know that this matter is NOT OVER, we are picking up steam because "This last minute decision has affected all of the graduating Seniors for 2007, 2008, 2009 and 2010 along with their families and loved ones"
Attention: Seniors, Parents, Guardians, Families, Relatives, Students and concerned persons
REMEMBER THIS DECISION WILL AFFECT ALL GRADUATING SENIORS, THEIR FAMILIES AND LOVED ONES NOW 2007 & OVER THE NEXT 4 YEARS OR UNTIL THE NEW SCHOOL IS OPEN!
GREAT NEWS!!
THE PIT IS STILL AVAILABLE ON MAY 19TH
AND THEY WILL NOT BE BOOKING THAT TIME AND DATE FOR ANYONE
IT IS STILL OPEN!!!
Please visit the web log, copy and paste this into your browser
http://rioranchogradsunite.blogspot.com/
You can also email: cmj2nc@aol.com if you have any problems posting comments on the blog, thank you.
We are a group of families that would like to have the Class of 2007 Graduation returned to "The PIT."
At minimum, let’s put this matter to a fair vote.
We are respectfully asking Dr. Sue Cleveland to make the decision to return to "The PIT."
RRPS has broken contracts before and can break this contract now and go "BACK TO THE PIT."
We need all persons that want the Graduation to be returned to "The PIT" to let your voice be heard.
In an unprecedented administrative decision, input was NOT allowed, requested or regarded by everyone affected. Only certain voices were heard.
This last minute decision has affected all of the graduating Seniors for 2007, 2008, 2009 and 2010 along with their families and loved ones.
Due to this last minute decision over 10,000 people will not be able to attend the 2007 graduation.
We have heard all the reasons and explanations given by the administration and strongly feel they do not outweigh the fact that a fair process did not occur in the first place concerning this matter.
Please go online now. We have every right to be heard. "It’s not over till it’s over."
BACK TO THE Pit
FAMILY AND friends of Rio Rancho High School graduates DISCUSSION GROUP
Please visit the web log, copy and paste this into your browser
http://rioranchogradsunite.blogspot.com/
You can also email: cmj2nc@aol.com if you have any problems posting comments on the blog, thank you.
April 10, 2007 7:20 AM
KRQE 1ST newscast: said...
KRQE
1ST newscast:
the link:
http://www.krqe.com/video/expanded.asp?ID=6352
April 10, 2007 8:37 AM
Rio Rancho Journal said...
http://www.abqjournal.com/riorancho/553616west_news04-10-07.htm
Tuesday, April 10, 2007
School Boss Sorry for Graduation Flap
By Elaine D. Briseño
Journal Staff Writer
People attending the Rio Rancho school board meeting to complain about the change of venue for this year's high school graduation did not get what they wanted— the ceremony returned to Albuquerque— but they did get an apology from the superintendent.
Parents, students and others showed up at Monday's Rio Rancho Public Schools board meeting to speak for and against the district's recent decision to switch this year's graduation ceremony from the University of New Mexico Pit to the smaller Santa Ana Star Center in Rio Rancho. The attendees filled the board room and spilled into the hallway. The item was not on the agenda but they spoke about the issue during public comment. The board took no action.
In total, 10 people spoke about the change and of those, seven were opposed. The main complaint is that the switch to the smaller venue limits the number of guests students can invite to the ceremony. Each student will be given eight tickets and will have a chance to get extra ones from those that were not claimed, or from their friends. Some who spoke said that even extra tickets will not be sufficient.
Yvette Aragon has two daughters graduating this year. She has six siblings and her husband has 13. She said in an interview during the meeting that there is no way everyone will be able to attend with the venue change.
"I'm upset at the way they went about this," she said. "There was no parent or senior input."
The decision to change the ceremony location was made by RRPS administration and Rio Rancho High School principal Richard VonAncken in February. There was no official process to determine whether the change would be preferred by students or parents.
During the meeting, Superintendent Sue Cleveland apologized to families for making the decision late in the year.
"We did not handle this very well," she said. "It should have been done earlier. Nobody wanted to hurt families or the kids."
Parent Ben Johnson, whose daughter will graduate from RRHS in 2008, spoke in favor of the change. He said he prefers the smaller venue in Rio Rancho. Two other parents also spoke in favor of the venue change, saying it would be more intimate, safer and a way to show support for the city and its businesses.
The Pit can accommodate more than 18,000 with standing room while the capacity at Santa Ana is between 6,000 and 7,000. However, Cleveland said the number at the Pit is reduced to 14,000 for high school graduations.
Cleveland said one reason the district made the change was to allow the officials to have better crowd control than last year. She said the 2006 RRHS graduation followed Cibola High School's graduation, which is a huge Rio Rancho rival.
"The goal was to ensure that our graduates this year did not have to experience that," she said. "We feel badly about it."
Kristen Kenneth, a 2006 RRHS graduate, said before Cleveland made her statement that the class of 2007 should not be punished for what happened last year. Kenneth's boyfriend will graduate this year, but she probably will not be able to attend because of the limited seating.
"We sit here and talk about the community being in our district but you are not allowing the community to be involved because you are limiting the seats," she said. "This should not be about having it in Rio Rancho. It's about the students having their family and loved ones there. This is not right."
April 10, 2007 9:42 AM
"This is not right" said...
Like the saying goes “Out of the mouths of our babies”, I could not have said it any better, her comment really says it all.
Neal
Kristen Kenneth, a 2006 RRHS graduate, said before Cleveland made her statement that the class of 2007 should not be punished for what happened last year. Kenneth's boyfriend will graduate this year, but she probably will not be able to attend because of the limited seating.
"We sit here and talk about the community being in our district but you are not allowing the community to be involved because you are limiting the seats," she said. "This should not be about having it in Rio Rancho. It's about the students having their family and loved ones there. This is not right."
April 10, 2007 9:57 AM
To Dr. Cleveland and Families affected said...
Some GREAT reading here.
After taking the time to really consider all of the reasons the administration decided to change our graduation. I have concluded beyond a shadow of a doubt that their reasons are self-serving.
Their decisions discriminate against families and graduates and do not allow everyone to have a voice in this decision. It also places hardship, stress and is a serious distraction in people’s lives. It was completely one sided.
At this time if they would allow us to vote they would lose. They will not allow us to vote at all costs.
Now this will take legal action.
They are not listening and not conceding they are wrong. If the "good Doctor" were truly sorry she would send the graduation back to The Pit.
Additionally, it is overtly obvious that there is a vast difference between the coverage on the news and the quality of the journalism concerning the Rio Rancho Observer, G. Herron, the Rio Rancho Journal, specifically the Ryans and the Tribune.
Specifically, Herron and the Ryans editorial were both very offensive and poorly put together, "under handed and nasty, at best" with points that make no connections, other then to back the status quo. They never addressed the serious issues and made light of the fact a vote or fair input was not allowed; tickets are an obstacle; too bad for anyone’s extended family; and discriminated against persons concerning their age!
(Herron) actually placed an age limit on the event! They degraded and shamed families for requesting relief and made their best argument to tell them to shut up, using because we told you so thinking, were smart your not, we know you don’t logic.
The other Journal and Tribune reporters presented the information that was given to them in a balanced manner.
NOTE: Our very own newspaper in "the city of vision" the Observer has NOT interviewed ANYONE that opposes this decision! Repeat has NOT!
Which now more then ever begs to ask…..WHY?
Can anyone say,
"Conflict of Interest"
Or
"Corporate Partners"
Go Back to The Pit.
Randy
April 10, 2007 1:01 PM
YEAH!! "This is not right"!! said...
YES, literally “Out of the mouths of our babies”
Juanita
From the RR Journal -
Kristen Kenneth, a 2006 RRHS graduate, said before Cleveland made her statement that the class of 2007 should not be punished for what happened last year. Kenneth's boyfriend will graduate this year, but she probably will not be able to attend because of the limited seating.
"We sit here and talk about the community being in our district but you are not allowing the community to be involved because you are limiting the seats," she said. "This should not be about having it in Rio Rancho. It's about the students having their family and loved ones there. This is not right."
April 10, 2007 1:46 PM
To Dr. Cleveland - important said...
MY NAME IS LATISHA AND I AM 11 YEARS OLD I HAVE A SISTER WHO IS A GRADUATE AND I AM VERY SAD TO HEAR WHAT IS HAPPENING. I WAS TOLD THAT I MIGHT HAVE TO STAY HOME. I LOOK UP TO MY SISTER AND I AM PROUD OF HER. SHE HAS WORKED HARD TO GET TO WHERE SHE IS. I CRIED WHEN MY MOM TOLD ME AND MY BROTHER WHO IS 7YEARS OLD THE NEWS PAPER SAID THAT THEY SHOULD LEAVE 10 AN YOUNGER AT HOME AM I SUPOSE TO WATCH MY BROTHER INSTEAD OF MY SISTER GRADUATE? I DONT KNOW WHY THE SCHOOL BOARD WANTS TO DO THIS TO MY FAMILY AND LOTS OF OTHER FAMILYS ALSO. IT SADDENS ME BECAUSE I WILL GRADUATE SOME DAY AND I DONT WANT THIS TO HAPPEN TO ME. CAN SOME ONE PLEASE HELP ME SO I SEE MY SISTER GRADUATE. I WOULD LIKE TO GO TO THE PIT SO I CAN GO WITH MY GRANDMA AND GRANDPA AND MY ANTIES I LOVE MY SISTER PLEASE BACK TO THE PIT. SAD IN RIO RANCHO LATISHA
April 10, 2007 8:30 PM
To Dr. Sue Cleveland said...
YOU MADE A DECISION AFFECTING THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE
MEN, WOMEN AND CHILDREN
WITHOUT GIVING PROPER NOTICE,
WITHOUT ALLOWING DISCUSSION,
WITHOUT TAKING INTO ACCOUNT DISSENTING OPINIONS!
Julie
April 10, 2007 8:36 PM
To Dr. Sue Cleveland said...
I am 18 years old and will be graduating this year. My grandfather will not be able to go because we won't have enough tickets. Everyone I have asked also needs tickets. I understand why the principal changed OUR graduation and you approved it. This is OUR graduation, it is not your graduation or the families from last year that got mad, or the students from other schools. It is OUR graduation. My question to you is do you really understand what you did is wrong? My grandfather will not go to the PAC and we don't have cable. You have disregarded the sacred unity of family. If you think you apology excuses you, you have hurt my family and me. We have done nothing to any of you to deserve this. Sorry does not cut it. I am old enough to understand right from wrong. This will be a bad memory for me. Too bad my year was going ok this has really ruined it. The newspaper said we have to learn life is hard, I already know life is hard I’ve had enough bad things happen to my family. Maybe all of you need to learn life is hard and change OUR graduation back.
2007 SENIORS RULE
April 10, 2007 9:02 PM
GRADUATION ISSUES said...
I don’t know what I should write here but it looks like we covered everything, please add my email to this website. Thank you. To whom it may concern don't hurt the kids they worked hard all year. Then this, sincerely,
Lou
April 10, 2007 9:08 PM
Why? said...
Dr. Cleveland,
You only graduate one time from high school, sure the parents make a big to do about it and they should. Their son or daughter are blessings from God. We have enough problems in the world, why add to it?
Eleanor
April 10, 2007 9:18 PM
“RIGHT FROM WRONG" - "THIS IS NOT RIGHT" said...
At one end you have the Rio Rancho superintendent.
On the other end the have the Rio Rancho mayor.
Smack in the middle you have a Rio Rancho 2006 graduate.
When you consider all three, there is genuine HOPE!
Not from the adults, but rather the TEENAGER, the graduate!
WHY?
Because thank God and her loved ones she can really see and grasp “RIGHT FROM WRONG” and then acted on it!
There is HOPE for The City of Vision because of persons like this young lady.
I would guess for any of us that have had children and have watched them grow, we have given our best so that they would understand “right from wrong”.
Simple enough, because we all assume everyone knows “right from wrong”, right… wrong?
Of course the reality of life is, not everyone acts upon “right from wrong” or how we interpret what is right and what is wrong.
Of the three persons already mentioned here, surely she had other important matters in her life then to go sit for several hours before addressing the superintendent and the school board.
What prompted her?
Is it possible that genuine compassion and a great handle on “right from wrong” motivated her?
Motives:
Clearly her motives are pure; can the superintendent and the mayor say the same?
NO, because they have both failed miserably in this situation concerning “right from wrong”.
Regarding certain aspects, the superintendent admitted to being wrong, although she is quoted in the newspaper in March as saying, “I do understand the concern people have about it, she added.”
What a difference just one month makes.
Had she polled all the families affected prior to making the decision she would have learned the truth back then.
She told a parent on Good Friday, that, “we wish we had this to do over again” and “I wish we had done things differently”! This would be a semblance of “right from wrong”.
But now she must act on it.
Interestingly, the young graduate, did not have to poll all of the families, to know “right from wrong”, she considered the situation, saw the pros, saw the cons and told them all “this is not right”!
Dr. Cleveland,
YOU STILL CAN DO IT “OVER AGAIN”!
YOU STILL CAN DO “THINGS DIFFERENTLY”!
DON’T YOU SEE, “THIS IS NOT RIGHT”!
PLEASE LISTEN TO THIS YOUNG GRADUATE.
SHE HAS A MUCH BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF “RIGHT FROM WRONG”.
PUT HER ON YOUR STAFF.
SHE COULD RUN FOR MAYOR.
I am still empowered by her speech and her willingness to truly make a difference in the lives of others.
Thank you very much.
From the Rio Rancho Journal April 9th school board meeting -
Kristen Kenneth, a 2006 RRHS graduate, said before Cleveland made her statement that the class of 2007 should not be punished for what happened last year. Kenneth's boyfriend will graduate this year, but she probably will not be able to attend because of the limited seating.
"We sit here and talk about the community being in our district but you are not allowing the community to be involved because you are limiting the seats," she said. "This should not be about having it in Rio Rancho. It's about the students having their family and loved ones there. This is not right."
April 10, 2007 9:19 PM
Call Yvette 994-9648 said...
We have the Hard Copy paper PETITION please call me and I will meet you to get it signed. Please pass my number to other families thank you.
April 11, 2007 6:09 AM
School Board Meeting on 4/9/07 said...
Hello,
Can anyone access KOAT and KRQE to get a copy of the raw footage of everyone speaking? We heard there was excellent comments by the “magnificent 7” that spoke. It would be great to get a copy. I understand they only sell the footage of the newscast.
Very interested in hearing the president of the school board’s attitude, can anyone go into detail about that? Or into anything else that happened?
Jonah
April 11, 2007 5:47 PM
Know your School Board Members said...
The five-member, elected School Board is the statutory governing body for the school district.
The board is responsible for establishing overall direction and district policy.
Under state law, the board hires the district Superintendent.
Know your School Board Members
AND KNOW WHEN THEIR TERM EXPIRES.
We need honest compassionate people
that know what is just and unjust.
Not like this current crew:
District 5
Lisa Cour, PRESIDENT
Elected: February 4, 1997
Re-elected: March 12, 2001
Re-elected: Feb. 14, 2005
Term Expires: 2009
District 1
Don J. Schlichte, Member
Elected: March 12, 2001
Re-elected: Feb. 14, 2005
Term Expires: 2009
District 2
Marty Scharfglass, Vice President
Elected: February 4, 2003
Re-elected: February 6, 2007
Term Expires: 2011
District 3
Margaret M. Terry,
Secretary
Elected: March 12, 2001
Re-elected: Feb. 14, 2005
Term Expires: 2009
District 4
Divyesh N. Patel, Member
Elected: February 6, 2007
Term Expires: 2011
If they were JUST, they’d be the FIRST ones telling,
Dr. Cleveland that this decision was WRONG!
If you take offense to my sentiments about members of the board,
please know if they were truly genuine they would be the very first to get this changed with out anyone having to bat an eye or speak up.
That’s a fact
Jack
April 11, 2007 6:09 PM
call The Observer said...
Anyone that would like to give the Observer a story
please
encourage everyone you know to
call the Observer
892-8080
Betta
April 11, 2007 7:35 PM
Seniors 2007 said...
“NOW IS THE TIME
FOR ALL GOOD PEOPLE
TO COME TO THE AID
OF THEIR 2007 SENIORS”
April 11, 2007 7:43 PM
TO Dr. Sue Cleveland said...
In the winter of 99 I had a wonderful conversation with a young lady that was passionate about helping children-students-families.
What was most remarkable was she was dedicated to the task.
Sadly now I see and read about that same young lady embroiled in a controversial change.
So we don’t agree on where to hold graduation that I can live with.
It is the HOW that is being carried out and at any cost to keep it in Rio Rancho that causes me distress.
Dr. Susan Cleveland, take a look back 7-8 years when your heart was in the right place.
We all know it can be changed.
They are going to get your business sometime in the future anyway.
Change this back or put it to a vote.
Sincerely again,
Thomas
April 11, 2007 7:52 PM
SENIORS 2007 said...
I Won’t Back Down
Well I won't back down
No I won't back down
You can stand me up at the gates of hell
But I won't back down
No I'll stand my ground, won't be turned around
And I'll keep this world from draggin me down
gonna stand my ground
... and I won't back down
(I won't back down...)
Hey baby, there ain't no easy way out
(and I won't back down...)
hey I will stand my ground
… and I won't back down
Well I know what's right, I got just one life
in a world that keeps on pushin me around
but I'll stand my ground
...and I won't back down
Hey baby, there ain't no easy way out
hey I won't back down
hey baby, there ain't no easy way out
hey I will stand my ground
and I won't back down
No I won't back down...
(thanks Tom)
April 11, 2007 8:10 PM
To Dr. Sue Cleveland said...
"I have not yet begun to fight"
2007 - SENIORS
April 11, 2007 8:20 PM
Calling ALL Seniors said...
Calling ALL Seniors, and the Class of 2008, 2009, 2010!
Take our graduation Back to The Pit!
THIS BAD DECISION AFFECTS ALL OF US!
Rio Rancho Students
April 11, 2007 9:28 PM
TO DR. V. SUE CLEVELAND said...
THERE ARE GREAT COMMENTS HERE.
DON’T READ SOME OF THEM.
READ ALL OF THEM.
THEY ARE ALL TO YOU.
GO BACK TO THE PIT.
OR LET US VOTE.
Samuel
April 11, 2007 9:33 PM
Mayor to Hold Town Hall Meeting said...
PWELLS@ci.rio-rancho.nm.us
Mayor Kevin M. Jackson to Hold Town Hall
For Immediate Release
April 5, 2007
RIO RANCHO, NM - Rio Rancho Mayor Kevin M. Jackson will hold his first town
hall meeting on Thursday, April 12, 2007 from 7:00PM to 8:00PM in the
Governing Body Chambers located in Rio Rancho City Hall.
Mayor Jackson will provide updates regarding the recently concluded New
Mexico State Legislative Session and information about the City's new
Central Business District. Mayor Jackson will also address questions that
are submitted by the audience.
"I encourage residents to attend this town hall meeting. Two-way
communication between citizens and government is critical. I believe this
town hall meeting will provide a unique opportunity to hear from residents
regarding issues relevant to our City as well as providing valuable updates
to the community," said Mayor Jackson.
The town hall meeting will be open to the public. For more information
residents may call 505-896-8727 or via e-mail at
feedbackform@ci.rio-rancho.nm.us
Peter Wells
Communications & Civic Outreach
Division Manager
City of Rio Rancho
3900 Southern Blvd SE
Rio Rancho, NM 87124
Office (505) 896-8727
Fax (505) 891-5205
Cell (505) 220-6078
April 12, 2007 8:11 AM
2007 Senior said...
"I think we're going to keep pushing this until the week before graduation,"
"YOU GO GIRL!"
April 12, 2007 11:04 AM
2007 SENIORS said...
When we chronicle RRPS, the 2007 GRADUATION will be remembered that Mr. Duncan, Mr. VonAncken, Lisa Cour, Dr. Sue Cleveland, Mayor Jackson and the Observer played the starring roles.
The great thing is there is a growing “paper trail” to confirm the horrible down and dirty comments all in the newspaper.
WE were ridiculed for not having our facts right and for voicing legitimate concerns. Yet, every time you read or hear the news, their story changes or their facts are wrong.
What happened to
FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHTS,
CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS,
DEMOCRACY
and ALL
that AMERICA stands for?
Aren’t these the very things our SOLDIERS are at WAR for right this second?
How can everyone mentioned here DISMISS these critical points?
April 12, 2007 1:28 PM
TODAY Town Hall Meeting said...
PWELLS@ci.rio-rancho.nm.us
Mayor Kevin M. Jackson to Hold Town Hall
For Immediate Release
April 5, 2007
RIO RANCHO, NM - Rio Rancho Mayor Kevin M. Jackson will hold his first town
hall meeting on Thursday, April 12, 2007 from 7:00PM to 8:00PM in the
Governing Body Chambers located in Rio Rancho City Hall.
Mayor Jackson will provide updates regarding the recently concluded New
Mexico State Legislative Session and information about the City's new
Central Business District. Mayor Jackson will also address questions that
are submitted by the audience.
"I encourage residents to attend this town hall meeting. Two-way
communication between citizens and government is critical. I believe this
town hall meeting will provide a unique opportunity to hear from residents
regarding issues relevant to our City as well as providing valuable updates
to the community," said Mayor Jackson.
The town hall meeting will be open to the public. For more information
residents may call 505-896-8727 or via e-mail at
feedbackform@ci.rio-rancho.nm.us
Peter Wells
Communications & Civic Outreach
Division Manager
City of Rio Rancho
3900 Southern Blvd SE
Rio Rancho, NM 87124
Office (505) 896-8727
Fax (505) 891-5205
Cell (505) 220-6078
April 12, 2007 5:22 PM
echarles1234@aol.com said...
If you are against the move to return to THE PIT, email echarles1234@aol.com with your comments.
Thank you
April 12, 2007 8:22 PM
GREAT NEWS said...
GREAT NEWS
THE PIT still available 5/19
I called The UNM PIT today,
IT IS TRUE THE PIT STILL OPEN on 05/19/07
Please tell everyone this is far from over.
It beckons us to return
Andrew
April 12, 2007 8:33 PM
SKYBOXES said...
Who gets the Skyboxes?
April 12, 2007 8:34 PM
Our family supports said...
Our family supports the return of the 2007 graduation to The Pit
Vivian
April 12, 2007 8:40 PM
Rio Rancho Hillbillies said...
"Corporate Partners"
Come and listen to a story about a woman named Sue
A poor mountaineer, barely kept her staff at school,
Then one day she was shootin’ at some food,
And up through the ground came up somethin’ crude.
"Corporate Partners" that is, fools gold, excess tea.
Y'all come back now, y'hear?.
RE: The Observer newspaper (April and August Fools)
Santa Ana Website, declares that the OBSERVER is "Corporate Partners", with guess who?
BOTH the casino and the center!
Kissin’ cousins!
They have not done an actual news report on a parent that is against the graduation change?
Both the Journal and Tribune interviewed parents.
Then how come our very own newspaper in our city has not interviewed anyone?
List of "Corporate Partners" of The Santa Ana Star Center:
SANTA ANA STAR CASINO
THE RIO RANCHO OBSERVER
99.3 KOB FM
770 KKOB
Mew Mexico's CW
Perfection Honda
JohnnyBoards LLC
First Community Bank
Qwest
Crystal Springs
O'Hare's Grille & Pub / Hot Tamales
Rio Rancho Printing
April 12, 2007 9:08 PM
Rio Rancho Hillbillies said...
Well the first thing you know ol Sue doesn’t care,
Kinfolk said "Sue move away from there"
Said "Star Center is the place you ought to fill"
So they loaded up the truck and moved back up the hill.
Hills, that is. April fools, “Corporate Pards”
"Corporate Pards" of The Santa Ana Star Center:
SANTA ANA STAR CASINO
THE RIO RANCHO OBSERVER
99.3 KOB FM
770 KKOB
Mew Mexico's CW
Perfection Honda
JohnnyBoards LLC
First Community Bank
Qwest
Crystal Springs
O'Hare's Grille & Pub / Hot Tamales
Rio Rancho Printing
April 12, 2007 9:22 PM
Rio Rancho Hillbillies said...
Well now its time to say good by to Sue and Vonakin.
And they would like to thank you folks fer kindly droppin in.
You're all invited back a gain to this locality
To have a heapin helpin of their hospitality
Rio Rancho Hillybilly that is. Set a spell, Take your shoes off.
Y'all come back now, y'hear?
April 12, 2007 9:27 PM
CAN U BELIEVE IT said...
CAN U BELIEVE IT?
THERE ARE FAMILIES WITH SISTERS, BROTHERS, GRANDPARENTS, COUSINS, RELATIVES AND LOVED ONES THAT ARE IN THE MILITARY OR ARE VETERANS AND FOUGHT FOR OUR FREEDOM IN CURRENT AND PAST WARS!
DEFENDERS OF AMERICA AND ALL THAT WE STAND FOR!
BUT WILL NOT GET TO GO TO THIS GRADUATION BECAUSE OF AN ILLEGAL DECISION!
SAY WHAT U SAY, THE DECISION DID NOT ALLOW INPUT BY EVERYONE DIRECTLY AFFECTED, THE SENIORS AND FAMILIES OF 2007.
CAN U BELIEVE IT?
WE KNOW WORLD WAR II, KOREAN WAR, VIETNAM, GULF WAR, AFGHANISTAN AND IRAQ VETERANS THAT WILL NOT BE ALLOWED TO GO!
BUT IF THE GRADUATION WAS AT THE PIT THEY COULD GO WITHOUT ANY RESTRICTIONS.
MIKE
April 12, 2007 9:46 PM
matches malone said...
i'll see ya' all at 1
April 12, 2007 9:46 PM
President Lisa Cour said...
RRPS & President Lisa Cour said,
“To the 2007 Graduating Class”
After 12-13 years of working towards graduating, we hoped you have learned.
We hoped you have learned to discriminate and impose your will on others.
Especially, don't use anything we taught you about "Democracy", rather, “do as I say, not as I do” is a much more advantageous edict.
Bottom line, President Lisa Cour said, "Life has its little disappointments and we deal with it". Too bad so sad, because you have to deal with it. I'm not sure why Sue broke down and admitted to any wrong doing, because I'm telling you all to "deal with it".
You should cater to our wishes our demands no matter how many are unfairly treated and WILL LOSE MONEY due to travel plans and other purchases, "My (decision) should be a sire-level decision as to where to have the high school graduation (and) was approved by the administration and this one is (also) supported by the board”.
So you see we ALL are in cahoots on this one even the Mayor has helped.
Further, I can talk down and be condescending and disrespectful to anyone of you and at any time, "deal with it".
To RRPS and Lisa Cour,
We are
AMERICANS
not
ameri-can'ts!
All I am saying is this,
R U AN AMERI-CAN
OR
AN AMERI-CAN'T?
…..That is all I am asking.
”Nana”
April 13, 2007 7:11 AM
Attn: Dr. Cleveland and Lisa Cour said...
Dr. Cleveland and Lisa Cour,
Your "sire-level decision" is discriminatory!
Your apology Dr. Cleveland falls way short, it does not even begin to heal the injury you have caused to thousands! You need to return the graduation to the Pit.
Lisa Cour, I am very aware of the disrespectful manner you have addressed people with. WE the tax paying voters should have had input in this "sire-level decision", but your arrogance explains your decision, the problems and this weak apology for a tremendous wrong to seniors and families. You expose yourself with your explanation.
Jeanne
April 13, 2007 10:21 AM
To Cleveland Cour Jackson said...
“Absolute power corrupts”.Not everyone was allowed to have a voice in this decision that were most affected.Both families and graduates without a doubt have been discriminated against, additionally, any 10 years olds and under according to Mr. Herron.Only those at the "sire-level” that wanted it in Rio Rancho.It is truly disgusting how pompous and blind those in charge of our children are?How true that “only those that "griped, whined and were "greedy" the very loudest” were allowed input”.
“Absolute power corrupts, absolutely”!
Kris
April 13, 2007 12:33 PM
"sire-level decision" said...
WE the TAX PAYING VOTERS should have had input in this "sire-level decision".
Put it another way, if you did, no one at RRPS would have to apologize, right?
You running around getting the Mayor to help you cover your tracks as you try to create more seats is ridiculous.
It confirms how WRONG your "sire-level decision" is.
The “proof is in the proverbial pudding” Sue, Lisa, Kevin, Richard, Gary.
Donald
April 13, 2007 1:02 PM
Anonymous said...
BULL SQUAT,
Sorry for my Texas accent but what else could I write to let you know how messed up this is?
Dr. Cleveland the mayor and Lisa “I’m better then you” Cour are ALL full of it!
I sure as hell don’t subscribe to "sire-level decision" thinking!
I was taught “of the people, by the people, for the people", you all must have ditched that day?
Hell, "sire-level decision", that’s something right out of a dictator’s handbook!
GET REAL!
Scott
April 13, 2007 1:38 PM
Resign Dr. Cleveland right now! said...
I am very upset over how this entire matter has been handled from top to bottom! I don’t want to curse here but I am completely ANGRY! Business is business the buck stops with Dr. Cleveland. If she can’t open her eyes and see the harm done, she needs to resign her position. Name that school after someone that deserves it. Those punk lackey writers in the newspaper are dumber and dumber THEY DO NOT TELL ME HOW TO RAISE MY CHILDREN, EVER!!! NOR DO THEY TELL ME MY 10 YEAR OLD CAN’T COME SEE THEIR BROTHER GRADUATE! I HAVE VOTED EVERYTIME A VOTE WAS NEEDED! HOW DARE THEY LUMP ME IN WITH PERSONS THEY FEEL ARE NEGLIGENT! RETIRE HERRON AND RYANS OR CHANGE YOUR OCCUPATION. HERRON HOW COME YOU OR YOUR NEWSPAPER HAS NOT INTEVIEWED A FAMILY AGAINST THIS DECISION? WHERE THE HELL IS ACTION JACKSON IN ALL THIS? OH, AND THE RANTER IN THE NEWSPAPER, YOU MAKE ME SICK HOW “AMERICAN” YOU THINK YOU ARE! SPELL THIS B-I-G-O-T, I KNOW YOU’RE ONE BECAUSE I’M WHITE LIKE YOU FOOL!
Lynn
April 13, 2007 4:20 PM
Call Yvette 994-9648 said...
We have the Hard Copy paper PETITION please call me and I will meet you to get it signed. Please pass my number to other families thank you.
April 13, 2007 4:21 PM
"of the people, by the people, for the people" said...
“that we here highly resolve that these dead shall not have died in vain--that this nation, under God, shall have a new birth of freedom--and that government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth."
April 13, 2007 4:43 PM
IMUS said...
Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary,
I learned and I was wrong. I hope you learn your lesson too. Hey, wrong is wrong. y'all need to do the right thing and I mean pronto. I didn't say Tonto, I said pronto. What I said was discrimination what you are doing is discrimination. And Gary….you really said 10 year olds can’t go? Gary, Gary, Gary…..tisk….
Don
April 13, 2007 5:45 PM
We few, we happy few, we band of brothers said...
The comments already placed on this blog sum up the entire matter. All we need now is a minor miracle that Sue Cleveland comes to her senses. Count me in to keep up the fight. How about it Sue, don’t you believe in miracles?
Barry
April 13, 2007 8:17 PM
For the Public said...
"The problem of power is how to achieve its responsible use, rather than its irresponsible and indulgent use- how to make people of power live for the public, rather than off the public."
April 13, 2007 8:52 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary, said...
"Fear not the path of truth for the lack of people walking on it."
2007 Seniors
April 13, 2007 9:25 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary, said...
“There are those who look at things the way they are, and ask why... I dream of things that never were and ask why not."
2007 Seniors
April 13, 2007 9:26 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary, said...
"Few men are willing to brave the disapproval of their fellows, the censure of their colleagues, the wrath of society. Moral courage is a rarer commodity than bravery in battle or great intelligence. Yet it is the one essential, vital, quality for those who seek to change a world which yields most painfully to change."
2007 Seniors
April 13, 2007 9:27 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary, said...
"Few will have the greatness to bend history; but each of us can work to change a small portion of events, and in the total of all those acts will be written the history of this generation ... It is from numberless diverse acts of courage and belief that human history is thus shaped. Each time a man stands up for an ideal, or acts to improve the lot of others, or strikes out against injustice, he sends forth a tiny ripple of hope, and crossing each other from a million different centers of energy and daring, those ripples build a current which can sweep down the mightiest walls of oppression and resistance."
2007 Seniors
April 13, 2007 9:28 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary, said...
"The church to which most of the white population belongs teaches apartheid as a moral necessity. A questioner declared that few churches allow black Africans to pray with the white because the Bible says that is the way it should be, because God created Negroes to serve. "But suppose God is black", I replied. "What if we go to Heaven and we, all our lives, have treated the Negro as an inferior, and God is there, and we look up and He is not white? What then is our response?" There was no answer. Only silence."
2007 Seniors
April 13, 2007 9:29 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary, said...
"Laws can embody standards; governments can enforce laws--but the final task is not a task for government. It is a task for each and every one of us. Every time we turn our heads the other way when we see the law flouted--when we tolerate what we know to be wrong--when we close our eyes and ears to the corrupt because we are too busy, or too frightened--when we fail to speak up and speak out--we strike a blow against freedom and decency and justice."
2007 Seniors
April 13, 2007 9:30 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
Know your School Board Members
The five-member, elected School Board is the statutory governing body for the school district.
The board is responsible for establishing overall direction and district policy.
Under state law, the board hires the district Superintendent.
Know your School Board Members
AND KNOW WHEN THEIR TERM EXPIRES.
We need honest compassionate people
that know what is just and unjust.
Not like this current crew:
District 5
Lisa Cour, PRESIDENT
Elected: February 4, 1997
Re-elected: March 12, 2001
Re-elected: Feb. 14, 2005
Term Expires: 2009
District 1
Don J. Schlichte, Member
Elected: March 12, 2001
Re-elected: Feb. 14, 2005
Term Expires: 2009
District 2
Marty Scharfglass, Vice President
Elected: February 4, 2003
Re-elected: February 6, 2007
Term Expires: 2011
District 3
Margaret M. Terry,
Secretary
Elected: March 12, 2001
Re-elected: Feb. 14, 2005
Term Expires: 2009
District 4
Divyesh N. Patel, Member
Elected: February 6, 2007
Term Expires: 2011
If they were JUST, they’d be the FIRST ones telling,
Dr. Cleveland that this decision was WRONG!
If you take offense to my sentiments about members of the board,
please know if they were truly genuine they would be the very first to get this changed with out anyone having to bat an eye or speak up.
That’s a fact
Jack
April 14, 2007 8:01 AM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
"Those who fail to know their history are doomed to repeat it"
"In every stage of these Oppressions We have Petitioned for Redress in the most humble terms: Our repeated Petitions have been answered only by repeated injury. A Prince whose character is thus marked by every act which may define a Tyrant, is unfit to be the ruler of a free people."
2007 Seniors
April 14, 2007 8:50 AM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
Families are praying for this decision to be resolved.
The fact is the local newspaper did take sides and continues to unfairly characterizes anyone that disagrees with this bad decision.
The fact is anyone that disagrees with the decision does not need to be ridiculed for thinking differently.
The fact is they should not be categorized as less American.
The fact is they had nothing to do with last years crowd.
The fact is they don’t need lessons on raising children from people who have a column in the newspaper.
Or lessons regarding what a cruel “woild” we live in, or “buck up.”
The fact is the newspapers should have their top reporter in the face of district office asking hard questions, like how come everyone was not allowed to voice their opinions, discrimination, “corporate partners”, etc?
The fact is regarding your “sire-level decision”, this is America, 8 to 10,000 people are not allowed to attend the graduation, plans had been made, money had already been spent.
The fact is only 2 months notice was given.
The fact is 45 to 60,000 people or more won’t be able to come over the next 4 years.
The fact is the mayor even said our high school will very soon have over 5000 students attending before Cleveland high is open.
Is there political pressure and by whom?
The fact is for sure the mayor is helping out along with local businesses to keep the decision intact.
Why did the principal get booed last year?
Will he get booed this year, it was his idea?
The fact is this is discrimination!
The fact is this does in fact affect our Hispanic families and anyone that needs over 6 tickets!
The fact is just because a family needs 50 tickets, this is not a bad thing, but you make it sound like it is.
The fact is not everyone needs 50 tickets.
The fact is they actually told families 10 years old and younger that they can’t celebrate. Yes they recommend that young people can’t see an event with their own eyes even though it is actually positive reinforcement.
The fact is please remember our state tops the charts in suicides and dropouts.
The fact is you literally called fellow “Ranchoans, whiners, greedy and to get over it.”
The fact is funny is funny but the April Fool’s deal was “underhanded and nasty” quoting the newspaper.
Families against this decision
April 14, 2007 2:26 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
"The fact is please remember our state tops the charts in suicides and dropouts"
So, the RRPS "sire-level decision", punishes seniors for a job well done, they did not dropout the made it, that is a wonderful accomplishment!
The RRPS "sire-level decision" is also stressing the hell out of families and the graduate!
Thank you "sire"!
Dara
April 14, 2007 4:15 PM
FIND A GOOD ATTORNEY! said...
Attention all families and 2007 graduates,
FIND A GOOD ATTORNEY!
Don't let them getaway with this because this will give them leverage over us for next year
2008 families
April 14, 2007 4:48 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
THE PRICE THEY PAID!
"The Fifty Six Men who Signed
the Declaration of Independence
Have you ever wondered what happened to the fifty-six men who signed the Declaration of Independence? Five signers were captured by the British as traitors, and tortured before they died. Twelve had their homes ransacked and burned. Two lost their sons serving in the Revolutionary Army; another had two sons captured. Nine of the fixity six fought and died from wounds or hardships of the Revolutionary War. They signed and they pledged their lives, their fortunes, and their sacred honor.
What kind of men were they?
Twenty-six were lawyers and jurists. Eleven were merchants, nine were farmers and large plantation owners; men of means, well educated. But they signed the Declaration of Independence knowing full well death would be the cost if captured. Carter Braxton of Virginia, a wealthy planter and trader, saw his ships swept from the seas by the British Navy. He sold his home and properties to pay his debts, and died in rags.
Thomas McKean was so hounded by the British that he was forced to move his family almost constantly. He served in the Congress without pay, and his family was kept in hiding. His possessions were taken from him, and poverty was his reward.
Vandals or soldiers looted the properties of Dillery, Hall, Clymer, Walton, Gwinnett, Heyward, Ruttledge, and Middleton.
At the battle of Yorktown, Thomas Nelson Jr. noted that the British General Cornwallis had taken over the Nelson home for his headquarters. He quietly urged General George Washington to open fire. The home was destroyed, and Nelson died bankrupt.
Francis Lewis had his home and properties destroyed. The enemy jailed his wife, and she died within a few months.
John Hart was driven from his wife's bedside as she was dying. Their thirteen children fled for their lives. His fields and his gristmill were laid to waste. For more than a year he lived in forests and caves, returning home to find his wife dead and his children vanished. A few weeks later he died from exhaustion and a broken heart.
Norris and Livingston suffered similar fates.
Such were the stories and sacrifices of the American Revolution. These were not wild-eyed, rabble-rousing ruffians. They were soft-spoken men of means and education.
They had security, but they valued liberty more. Standing tall, straight, and unwavering, they pledged: "For the support of this declaration, with firm reliance on the protection of divine providence, we mutually pledge to each other, our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor."
They gave you and me a free and independent America. The history books never told you a lot about what happened in the Revolutionary War. We didn't fight just the British. We were British subjects at that time and we fought our own government!
Some of us take these liberties so much for granted, but we shouldn't. So, take a few minutes this year while enjoying your 4th of July holiday and silently thank these patriots. It's not much to ask for the price they paid".
2007 SENIORS
April 14, 2007 5:37 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
DO YOUR HOMEWORK RRPS!
How many times have our seniors heard this in their lifetime,
"Do your homework"?
"They should have done their homework BEFORE a decision like this was made. They need to back up and ask every graduate what they want, and if the majority want it at THE PIT, they need to fix their mistake and move it back. They still have plenty of time. It needs to be resolved the right way, right away!"
2007 SENIORS
April 14, 2007 6:42 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
Civil suit or sue, Sue Cleveland
OK
HERE WE GO AGAIN
I’VE READ DIFFERENT PEOPLE QUESTIONING FACTS AND CREDIBILITY
WATCH OUT WHAT YOU WRITE OR SAY ETC
BE NICE OR DON’T BE NICE
DON’T DO THIS
DON’T DO THAT
ITS OVER
AND
SO ON AND SO FORTH
WELL SPORTS FANS
THEY HAVE PAINTED US INTO A CORNER
THEY ARE NOT GOING TO CHANGE
THEY ARE NOT GOING TO BE FAIR
THEY ARE NOT GOING TO LET ANYONE VOTE
I TOLD EVERYONE THIS WEEKS AGO
FOLKS,
GET SERIOUS
GET YOUR ATTORNEY OR FILE A CIVIL SUIT
Stan Lee
April 14, 2007 8:58 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
& To the "ranter",
Our SENIOR has three (3) generations of over 50 relatives,
including his parents and two (2) Brothers that all GRADUATED at “The Pit”.
All of those generations no longer live in NM, but we are a very close group.
We participate in Family Reunions and the turnout is huge.
Many others have already noted not to penalize large families and this is true.
We need a lot more then 6 or 8 tickets, we are sorry.
Now we have a “corporate partnered” venue to look forward to THAT IS JUST TOO SMALL.
We are all just talking in circles now
and I have read and heard enough evidence
to confirm the school’s decision is totally wrong and unfair.
Sorry, this inappropriate decision and how it is being forced upon everyone is way,
I mean way out of line.
Quoting others here,
“we have rights”,
“this is America”,
hell someone submitted the Declaration of Independence for goodness sake!?
But, they are all corrent!
Because there was no input from everyone,
no vote
and no Democracy,
it is much more like hypocrisy and dictatorship!
There are some classic rebuttals here I have really enjoyed reading them,
they all sing the same song when all is said and done.
In support to GO BACK TO THE PIT.
You are the “hypocrite” and so are those you feel you have to protect.
Go "little Johnny", you GO!!
AC
April 15, 2007 9:01 AM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
An editor and the administration all referred to the “many” that wanted this, what is the problem with putting this to a vote, right now?
You will all find out the actual “many” want this event at “The Pit”.
The actual “many” was actually only a handful of people at the “sire-level” and 13 persons from the RRPS council.
Then Cibola high school was blamed for last year.
Let us VOTE:
Our Seniors will have to revert back to their grade school days, you print up what 770 notes home with 2 boxes to check on the note - “The Pit” or no “Pit”, parents and guardians along with each Senior will vote.
Unlike the decree that has been imposed upon everyone, where only a certain “many” voices were heard and acted on, simply, that decision that act in itself is so very wrong and so very unfair, this is America right?
Call it what it is…..discrimination!
(The school Board is supposed to uphold the Constitution of the United States, just ask them).
Make sure you number each one of these notes that way they can be counted fairly.
Add a few lines so the Graduate and their Parent/Guardian can print and sign.
If you have a better idea, wonderful as long as the vote process is fair.
If the vote comes back no “Pit”, then the editor, the administration and the so called “many” had a finger on the pulse
and IF the vote comes back “The Pit” then Hallelujah! Times a wastin’!
with a little help from my friends & Dorothy
April 15, 2007 11:28 AM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
"OF THE PEOPLE, BY THE PEOPLE, FOR THE PEOPLE"
“THAT WE HERE HIGHLY RESOLVE THAT THESE DEAD SHALL NOT HAVE DIED IN VAIN--THAT THIS NATION, UNDER GOD, SHALL HAVE A NEW BIRTH OF FREEDOM--AND THAT GOVERNMENT OF THE PEOPLE, BY THE PEOPLE, FOR THE PEOPLE, SHALL NOT PERISH FROM THE EARTH."
2007 SENIORS AND FAMILIES
April 15, 2007 11:48 AM
Call Yvette 994-9648 said...
We have the Hard Copy paper PETITION
please call me and I will meet you to get it signed.
Please pass my number to other families thank you.
Call Yvette 994-9648
April 15, 2007 12:29 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
As learned in my English Class:
Half a league, half a league,
Half a league onward,
All to district office
Rode the six hundred.
'Forward, the Light Brigade!
Rode the six hundred.
Their's not to make reply,
Their's not to reason why,
Their's but to do and why:
Into district office
Rode the six hundred.
The Observer to right of them,
The Ryan’s to left of them,
VonAncken in front of them
Into the jaws
Into the mouth of RRPS
Rode the six hundred.
Honour the charge they made!
Honour the Light Brigade,
Noble six hundred!
(ALT)
2007 SENIORS
April 15, 2007 1:32 PM
Anonymous AGAIN said...
IF YOU FEEL YOU HAVE BEEN TREATED UNFAIR ABOUT THE SO CALLED DECISION MOVING THE GRADUATION TO THE SANTA ANA CENTER AND THEY WILL NOT LET YOU ALL VOTE THEN I AGAIN ENCOURAGE YOU TO FILE A CIVIL SUIT BEFORE IT IS TO LATE
April 15, 2007 1:45 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
RE: The Observer, Mike & Genie Ryan and anonymous ranters condemning anyone speaking out against this decision, this applies:
”Hate speech is a controversial term for speech intended to degrade, intimidate, or incite violence or prejudicial action against a person or group of people based on their race, gender, age, ethnicity, nationality, religion, sexual orientation, gender identity, disability, language ability, moral or political views, socioeconomic class, occupation or appearance (such as height, weight, and hair color). The term covers written as well as oral communication and some forms of behaviors in a public setting. It is also sometimes called antilocution and is the first point on Allport's scale which measures prejudice in a society.”
2007 SENIORS
April 15, 2007 4:20 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
While reading many of these comments, we agree 100% with the parent of 2006 SENIOR
"YES the district should have come up with a variety of options and make them available to the public, obtain feedback and base the decision on that feedback in combination with sound financial decisions (as well as access, parking, etc.).
YES the timing should have been better.
YES the district has not given the public a voice.
YES it should probably be moved back to the PIT for this year's graduation."
2007 SENIORS
April 15, 2007 4:49 PM
Anonymous said...
What I would like to know is what is the school board getting out of this. Are they realy paying for the Santa Ana Star Center or is the Santa Ana Star Center paying the school board? Is the school board getting a kick back on money that is greater than being able to go back to the pit.
April 15, 2007 6:22 PM
Anonymous said...
The school board, the mayor, Cleveland, Rio Rancho businesses, “corporate partners”, ALL benefit from the graduation being in RR.
I am very sick and tired, and literally sick over the newspaper’s attitude towards everyone that is questioning this discriminatory decision.
We have every right to question this decision; its affecting over 15,000 people and around 10,000 won’t be allowed to attend the graduation.
TV feeds, please….that’s crappy!
Dr. Cleveland hid out all through March until April Good Friday, and during that time the board pointed the finger at the administration.
The board president is still consistently rude, and the rest buried their heads in the sand.
RRPS did not let everyone provide input, no vote was allowed, 06 was rowdy and 07 gets the punishment, and every class from here on out gets punished too.
Plans were already made but Dr. Cleveland does not care!
Her apology should include allowing us graduating at The Pit.
If VonAncken, VonDuncan, VonHerron, whatever the right name is, I don’t know, were booed by the seniors last year, they need to investigate why that happened?
Where there’s smoke there’s fire, the problem is now all RRPS stinks because of a few people.
O. G.
April 15, 2007 6:36 PM
WHO Do VOODOO said...
RRPS and the mayor have a case of WHO DO VOODOO!
April 15, 2007 6:39 PM
Who do? Who do? said...
RRPS,
Who do?
Who do?
Who do you think your foolin'?
2007 PARENTS
April 15, 2007 6:41 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
Driving to the Star Center. After driving through Rio Rancho you will come to a 2 lane road Paseo del Volcan, you can ONLY access the Center from this 2 lane road, upon reaching the Center there is ONLY 1 way in and 1 way out when you leave.
If you have been following any of the other comments in the Observer, people have complained about the drive and the ability to enter and exit. Some stated, the just kept on going because traffic was backed up in both directions.
The Observer also said there was 4 ways in like The Pit has 4 ways in. They dogged us for not having our facts correct.
FYI, traffic WILL BE A PROBLEM
2007 SENIORS
April 15, 2007 9:09 PM
African Proverb: said...
"It takes a village to raise a child."
"But only LIMITED amount of that village is allowed to attend the child's graduation" S. Andrade
2007 SENIORS
April 15, 2007 9:50 PM
matches malone said...
i
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i'll see ya' all at 1
April 15, 2007 9:52 PM
FIND A GOOD ATTORNEY! said...
07
Attention all families and 2007 graduates,
FIND A GOOD ATTORNEY!
Don't let them getaway with this because this will give them leverage over us for next year
2008 Families
April 15, 2007 9:53 PM
FIND A GOOD ATTORNEY! said...
07
Attention all families and 2007 graduates,
FIND A GOOD ATTORNEY!
Don't let them getaway with this because this will give them leverage over us for next year
2008 Families
April 15, 2007 9:53 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary -- said...
07
When we chronicle RRPS, the 2007 GRADUATION will be remembered that Mr. Duncan, Mr. VonAncken, Lisa Cour, Dr. Sue Cleveland, Mayor Jackson and the Observer played the starring roles.
The great thing is there is a growing “paper trail” to confirm the horrible down and dirty comments all in the newspaper.
WE were ridiculed for not having our facts right and for voicing legitimate concerns. Yet, every time you read or hear the news, their story changes or their facts are wrong.
What happened to our
FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHTS,
CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS,
DEMOCRACY
and ALL
that AMERICA stands for?
Aren’t these the very things our SOLDIERS are at WAR for right this second?
How can you all just DISMISS these critical points?
2007 SENIORS
April 15, 2007 11:06 PM
Call Yvette 994-9648 said...
We have the Hard Copy paper PETITION
Please call me and I will meet you to get it signed.
Please pass my number to other families thank you.
Call Yvette 994-9648
April 16, 2007 9:53 AM
City of Vision said...
U R
Blinded by the lies!!
2007 SENIORS
April 16, 2007 2:04 PM
Prayin' said...
Hope Dr. Cleveland comes to her senses?
Bev
April 16, 2007 4:06 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
"if they were the least bit interested, they would have asked for input BEFORE they made the decision"
They were never interested at all. For sure THEY WERE ALL WRONG, THEIR DECISION WAS WRONG, otherwise Dr. Cleveland would have never apologized.
Laura
April 16, 2007 4:49 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
"I understand the chaos of organizing a high school graduation and inevitably someone is going to be less than happy about the result.
But to callously disregard the plans and wishes of multiple family members goes beyond any kind of administrative SNAFU.
Gradution ceremonies are ultimately about the achievements of the students and an opportunity for loved ones to celebrate those achievements.
For Rio Rancho to dismiss the concerns and outrage of family members is to disregard the spirit of the ceremony.
Isn't it obvious?
Do the right thing."
2007 SENIORS
April 16, 2007 6:23 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
.
The president of the school board is a real witch!
She has NO respect for parents or the students.
We must make it a point to let everyone know what a joke this is.
It is a “gool ol'” boy network at RRPS.
They are all stuck on themselves.
“What goes around comes around”
2007 SENIORS
April 16, 2007 6:42 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
I wanted to take this time to write everyone that was involved in this matter. I won’t be able to explain myself very well. I will just put down what is on my mind. Our family’s problem will be deciding who gets to go and who doesn’t. Ok, we all know this comes with the territory because of what has happened but the reality is, this is tough. Our son won’t be able to go if his grandfather goes. My dad won’t be able to go if his grandson goes. If you think this is an easy decision to make, it really is not. We are torn up over this choice. This really hurts…
April 16, 2007 7:40 PM
ANONYMOUS said...
I WANT ALL OF MY FAMILY AT MY GRADUATION!
MOM,
DAD,
SISTERS,
BROTHERS,
AUNTS,
UNCLES,
GRANDPARENTS
AND COUSINS.
DON'T MAKE ME CHOOSE WHO GETS TO GO AND WHO GETS TO STAY HOME.
WE ALL WANT TO CELEBRATE TOGETHER.
BACK TO THE PIT!
GRADUATES AND FAMILIES SHOULD HAVE HAD A CHOICE.
IT'S OUR GRADUATION.
NOT THE ADMINISTRATIONS!
April 16, 2007 7:58 PM
FIND A GOOD ATTORNEY! said...
07
Attention all families and 2007 graduates,
FIND A GOOD ATTORNEY!
Don't let them getaway with this because this will give them leverage over us for next year
2008 Families
April 17, 2007 8:43 AM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
Last year’s Graduation had a rowdy crowd from CIBOLA HIGH SCHOOL according to Sue Cleveland!
Parents were upset!
Please do not penalize the class of 2007 they cannot be blamed for last year.
2007 Seniors
April 17, 2007 9:41 AM
KNOCK! KNOCK! said...
Knock! Knock!
who's there?
PIT!
PIT who!
PITiful decision by the school to change the graduation!
2007 Seniors
April 17, 2007 11:02 AM
ORANGE said...
KNOCK! KNOCK!
Who's there?
ORANGE!
ORANGE who?
AREN’T YOU ALL GOING TO GO BACK TO THE PIT?
2007 Seniors
April 17, 2007 11:04 AM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
We fully support returning our graduation Back To The Pit.
2007 Seniors
April 17, 2007 12:27 PM
Anonymous said...
RRPS blatantly disregarded the rights, the plans and specifically persons with large families. Keep this going. What about Bill Richardson?
April 17, 2007 2:25 PM
bologna said...
BOLOGNA!!!
They can break the contract!
April 17, 2007 2:47 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
“Everyone has already heard the arguments for and against returning the graduation ceremony to The Pit so there’s no reason to spend a lot of time rehashing what’s already been said. The only issue left to be decided is what most of the parents want to do. We believe that most of the parents want the ceremony to be held in The Pit. So our only request is that you authorize a vote so that we can see what the parents want. If most of them want to hold the ceremony at the Star Center, then we should hold it at the Star Center; if most of the parents want to return to the Pit, then that’s what we should do. If you feel you can’t authorize a vote, then the only fair decision is to return the ceremony to The Pit given that the decision was made without sufficient public input.
Further, the decision to move the ceremony to the Star Center disproportionately inconveniences larger families, many of whom happen to be Hispanic.”
April 17, 2007 2:58 PM
Have a Heart said...
Dr. Cleveland,
Have a Heart
2007 Seniors
April 17, 2007 4:29 PM
HELP!!!! said...
HELP US Dr. Cleveland!
April 17, 2007 4:49 PM
Anonymous said...
Mr. Vonancken, Mrs. Cleveland, Mr. Jackson and the so-called think tank, the brain trust behind this debacle got it wrong.
April 17, 2007 5:18 PM
Jesus Take The Wheel said...
LORD HELP US!
April 17, 2007 6:37 PM
Scarecrow said...
“if I only had a brain”!
“Think Tank”
“Brain Trust”
I wish they had one
Decision is BAD from start to finish
April 17, 2007 8:13 PM
Anonymous said...
PLEASE REMEMBER, THE PRESIDENT OF THE SCHOOL BOARD WAS APPROACHED BY A CONCERNED PARENT ASKING WHY THIS DECISION WAS MADE WITHOUT FAIR INVOLVEMENT FROM THE STUDENTS, AND PARENTS ALIKE.
“HER ANSWER WAS LESS THAN CORDIAL AND SHE STATED THAT SHE MADE THE DECISION WITHOUT CONSULTING ANYONE BECAUSE SHE HAD THE AUTHORITY TO DO SO!”
NOT ONLY DO I FIND THIS HORRIBLY OFFENSIVE, BUT ALSO IT IS NOT EXACTLY CORRECT.
THE PRESIDENT AND SCHOOL BOARD MUST UPHOLD CONSTITUTIONAL GUIDELINES OF THE SCHOOL AND THE UNITED STATES!
ALONG WITH THE AUTHORITY THAT WE AS VOTERS ENTRUSTED THEM WITH.
THIS DECISION DID NOT REPRESENT WHAT EVERYONE WANTED.
THAT CLEARLY HAS BEEN PROVEN.
I THINK WE NEED TO SERIOUSLY RECONSIDER JUST HOW MUCH AUTHORITY WE SHOULD ALLOW THEM TO HAVE.
I ASSURE YOU THIS ISSUE WILL HAUNT ALL OF THEM FOR THE REST OF THEIR SHORT-LIVED POLITICAL CAREERS.
RIO RANCHO PARENTS AND CITIZENS WILL NOT ALLOW THIS OBVIOUS ABUSE OF TRUST AND POWER TO GO ON UNQUESTIONED OR UNCHALLENGED.
OUR CHILDREN ARE VERY DEAR TO US!
WE THOUGHT YOU UNDERSTOOD THAT?
April 17, 2007 8:40 PM
FIND A GOOD ATTORNEY! said...
07
Attention all families and 2007 graduates,
FIND A GOOD ATTORNEY!
Don't let them getaway with this because this will give them leverage over us for next year
2008 Families
April 18, 2007 6:33 AM
RE: FIND A GOOD ATTORNEY! said...
2008 is right, time is running out:
07
Attention all families and 2007 graduates,
FIND A GOOD ATTORNEY!
Don't let them getaway with this because this will give them leverage over us for next year
2008 Families
April 18, 2007 8:32 AM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
THIS IS TO: Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary,
Sue apologized but it still fits her, where is her integrity?
Lisa, wanted all graduates and family to know "life is tough" but it's not our fault, we make all the "sire-level" decisions like it or not!
Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary, this is you!
A man in a hot air balloon realized he was lost. He reduced altitude and spotted a woman below. He descended a bit more and shouted,” Excuse me, can you help? I promised a friend I would meet him an hour
ago, but I don't know where I am."
The woman below replied, "You are in a hot air balloon hovering approximately 30 feet above the ground. You are between 40 and 41 degrees north latitude and between 59 and 60 degrees west longitude."
"You must be an engineer," said the balloonist.
"I am," replied the woman. "How did you know?"
"Well," answered the balloonist, "everything you told me is technically correct, but I have no idea what to make of you, and the fact is I am still lost. Frankly, you've not been much help so far."
The woman below responded, "You must be in management."
"I am," replied the balloonist, "but how did you know?"
"Well," said the woman, "you don't know where you are or where you are going. You have risen to where you are, due to a large quantity of hot air. You made a promise which you have no idea how to keep, and you expect people beneath you to solve your problems. The fact is you are in exactly the same position you were in before we met, but now, somehow, it's my fault!"
April 18, 2007 8:50 AM
Call Yvette 994-9648 said...
We have the Hard Copy paper PETITION
Please call me and I will meet you to get it signed.
Please pass my number to other families thank you.
Call Yvette 994-9648
April 18, 2007 10:02 AM
Que Sera, "sire" said...
RRPS theme:
Que Sera, Sera....
Whatever will be, will be...
The future's not yours, you see...
Que "sire-level" decision...
Que Sera, Sera...
What will be, will be.
April 18, 2007 1:04 PM
The Pit said...
WE ARE STILL OPEN AND WILL TAKE YOU BACK RRPS
April 18, 2007 2:59 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
The seniors of the class of 2007 would like to acknowledge RRPS for:
Failing to listening to reason, for stressing us, for lying to us, for disregarding our celebration, for punishing us for something we did not do, for providing us with tacky announcements, for burdening our families with expenditures for travel, with discriminating against anyone with a large family, or large network, for telling us “the choice is yours”, but it never was, for a disrespectful board president, for a superintendent that claimed she knew all the reasons, but later after making things worse admitted to failing to know all the reasons, for a dishonest principal, for no help from the mayor, for making us have to choose who goes and who stays, for being dictators, for threatening families and students that spoke up, for telling us to get over it, for telling us life is hard get over it, for telling us we are greedy, for a BIG MESS!
April 18, 2007 4:24 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
Mr. VonAncken was booed last year?
Why did that happen?
April 18, 2007 7:40 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
WE ARE A PUBLIC HIGH SCHOOL, BUT YOU MADE THE GRADUATION PRIVATE.
April 18, 2007 7:42 PM
FIND A GOOD ATTORNEY! said...
07
Attention all families and 2007 graduates,
FIND A GOOD ATTORNEY!
Don't let them getaway with this because this will give them leverage over us for next year
2008 Families
April 19, 2007 6:39 AM
Anonymous said...
RRPS HAS NOT BEEN TRUTHFUL WITH RRHS STUDENTS AND THEIR FAMILIES!
THIS IS A PUBLIC HIGH SCHOOL!
BUT YOU INSIST ON HAVING A PRIVATE GRADUATION!
IT'S SO PRIVATE THAT EVEN THE FAMILIES OF THE GRADUATES ARE NOT WELCOME!
2007 SENIORS
April 19, 2007 8:35 AM
TO: History Lesson said...
HELLO HS,
I checked back again to see if you ever responded.
What else could you let us know about this?
April 19, 2007 9:17 AM
PIT is still available on 5/19 said...
ATTENTION BACK TO THE PIT,
This decision is the pitts!
I spoke to THE PIT, yes!
They still have May 19TH open!
They will not schedule anything on that day.
Cost for THE PIT = $7,800.00
Cost for the Center = $6,200.00
A seat at the Center costs more then a seat at THE PIT.
PASS IT ON!
monie
April 19, 2007 9:29 AM
2008, 2009, 2010 said...
THANK YOU BACK TO THE PIT!
April 19, 2007 1:21 PM
WEEKS AGO said...
WELL SPORTS FANS
THEY HAVE PAINTED US INTO A CORNER
THEY ARE NOT GOING TO CHANGE
THEY ARE NOT GOING TO BE FAIR
THEY ARE NOT GOING TO LET ANYONE VOTE
I TOLD EVERYONE THIS WEEKS AGO
April 19, 2007 2:16 PM
GET SERIOUS said...
FOLKS,
GET SERIOUS
GET YOUR ATTORNEY OR FILE A CIVIL SUIT
April 19, 2007 2:29 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
TO: Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary
WE DO SUPPORT THE INITIAL IDEA TO HAVE A GRADUATION HERE IN RIO RANCHO.
WE DO NOT SUPPORT CHANGING THIS YEAR’S GRADUATION WITHOUT ALLOWING EVERYONE TO HAVE INPUT IN THIS DECISION.
WE DO NOT SUPPORT HARMING THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE.
WE DO NOT SUPPORT VERBALLY DEGRADING THEM IN THE NEWSPAPER.
WE DO NOT SUPPORT DISCRIMINATING AGAINST THOUSANDS OF PERSONS WANTING TO SEE A GRADUATION.
WE DO NOT SUPPORT PUNISHING THE CLASS OF 2007 FOR SOMETHING THEY DID NOT DO.
2007 SENIORS
April 19, 2007 2:59 PM
Boycott! said...
Boycott!
April 19, 2007 5:42 PM
Anonymous said...
The decision was never fair. Contracts can be broken. Tremendous stress is being placed on families. The new Center is NOT cost effective. The newspaper comments are one-sided.
Graduates Against the Decision
April 19, 2007 7:05 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
Everything that we would have like to have said is right here. We would like thank everyone that spoke up. Too bad RRPS is not listening to a word we’re saying.
2007 SENIORS
April 19, 2007 7:57 PM
2007 SENIORS said...
TO: RRPS and Mayor Jackson and the Observer,
The seniors and families of THE CLASS of 2007 want you to always remember that you discriminated and punished us unfairly.
2007 SENIORS
April 19, 2007 9:20 PM
Call Yvette 994-9648 said...
We have the Hard Copy paper PETITION
Please call me and I will meet you to get it signed.
Please pass my number to other families thank you.
Call Yvette 994-9648
April 20, 2007 6:46 AM
FIND A GOOD ATTORNEY! said...
07
Attention all families and 2007 graduates,
FIND A GOOD ATTORNEY!
Don't let them getaway with this because this will give them leverage over us for next year
2008 Families
April 20, 2007 9:16 AM
Attn: Dr. Sue Cleveland/RRPS/Mr. Jackson said...
Dr. Cleveland and RRPS,
I believe we have our accurate facts listed here numerous times. So, like an echo, Dr. Cleveland, “it is NOT why you imposed your decision, IT IS HOW you imposed your decision.” I understand you actually took the time to meet with some parents. We all are coming from different points of view but agree on the main issues. I have read the different emails being passed along and I for one need you to understand I fortunately have secured some extra tickets. BUT THERE ARE FOUR FAMILY MEMBERS IN FROM OUT OF TOWN THAT WON’T BE ABLE TO ATTEND AND IT WAS NOT EASY HUSLTING DOWN THE EXTRA ONES EITHER, IT WAS A PAIN. My family won’t have enough there are many more families that also won’t. I want you to know it was VERY difficult figuring who got to go and who didn’t. That is where I agree with the comments calling this matter discrimination. The only reason I was able to secure those tickets is because of all the parents that I know, I really feel for the families that need extra tickets and don’t know as many people that I do. This makes their task all the more difficult. I heard you apologized; I have a much better suggestion, let US VOTE.
EACH SCHOOL BOARD MEMBER IS SWORN IN BY A JUDGE AND THEIR OATH OF SERVICE MAINTAINS THEY MUST UPHOLD THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES AS WELL AS THE SCHOOL'S, ISN'T THIS A DIRECT VIOLATION OF "DUE PROCESS", FAIR PROCESS, OR ANY EQUAL AND "GOOD FAITH" STANDARDS THAT ADHERE TO OUR CONSTITUTION AND WHAT THEY WERE FOUNDED ON? I HAVE PERSONALLY HEARD THAT DR. CLEVELAND IS "FAIR" AND WE ARE ABSOLUTELY COUNTING ON THAT IN THIS MATTER.
Shirley
April 20, 2007 11:43 AM
Seniors said...
2007 Seniors agree with Scott:
"BULL SQUAT,
Sorry for my Texas accent but what else could I write to let you know how messed up this is?
Dr. Cleveland the mayor and Lisa “I’m better then you” Cour are ALL full of it!
I sure as hell don’t subscribe to "sire-level decision" thinking!
I was taught “of the people, by the people, for the people", you all must have ditched that day?
Hell, "sire-level decision", that’s something right out of a dictator’s handbook!
GET REAL!"
Scott
April 20, 2007 1:12 PM
for the pit said...
Allow a vote or return our graduation, my announcements still have The Pit on them
April 20, 2007 2:54 PM
Wherefore and Why said...
“Then all at once it came to me, I saw the wherefore, and the reason why”
April 20, 2007 6:39 PM
Anonymous said...
RRPS, the newspaper, along with the mayor of our dear community have caused irreparable damage to thousands of people.
Families have already scheduled flights, planned and had taken time off.
No apology can comfort or justify their decision.
This celebration is for the seniors plain and simple.
This celebration is not a “sire-level” power play, it is families and loved ones being able to be there for their children.
Shame on all of you!
Wayne
April 20, 2007 6:46 PM
"Carpe Diem" said...
SEIZE THE TIME
April 20, 2007 6:55 PM
Posterity: said...
"You will never know how much it has cost my generation to preserve your freedom. I hope you will make good use of it."
Wrong decision Sue
April 20, 2007 7:04 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
"History is the sum total of things that could have been avoided."
April 20, 2007 7:45 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
Truly amazing how backward our fearless leaders are? What about the children, Rio Rancho? What about our children? Don’t forget what you did, we won’t.
April 20, 2007 7:46 PM
Neil said...
"This is one small step for a man, one giant leap for mankind."
Move forward RRPS not backward!
April 20, 2007 7:49 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
"Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it."
April 20, 2007 7:56 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
"A word to the wise ain't necessary - it's the stupid ones that need the advice."
You all were given terrible advice
April 20, 2007 8:06 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not 100% sure about the universe."
April 20, 2007 8:09 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
"The darkest places in hell are reserved for those who maintain their neutrality in times of moral crisis."
April 20, 2007 8:15 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
"Power tends to corrupt and absolute power corrupts absolutely."
April 20, 2007 8:16 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
"Always vote for principle, though you may vote alone, and you may cherish the sweetest reflection that your vote is never lost."
April 20, 2007 8:17 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
"Democracy is when the indigent, and not the men of property, are the rulers."
April 20, 2007 8:19 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
"Politics, it seems to me, for years, or all too long, has been concerned with right or left instead of right or wrong."
April 20, 2007 8:20 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
"Never let your sense of morals prevent you from doing what's right."
April 20, 2007 8:21 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
"Reporters thrive on the world's misfortune. For this reason they often take an indecent pleasure in events that dismay the rest of humanity."
April 20, 2007 8:26 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
"An educated person is one who has learned that information almost always turns out to be at best incomplete and very often false, misleading, fictitious, mendacious - just dead wrong."
April 20, 2007 8:27 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
"Usually, terrible things that are done with the excuse that progress requires them are not really progress at all, but just terrible things."
April 20, 2007 8:29 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
"So long as we have enough people in this country willing to fight for their rights, we'll be called a democracy."
April 20, 2007 8:31 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
"Politics:
A strife of interests masquerading as a contest of principles. The conduct of public affairs for private advantage."
April 20, 2007 8:35 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
"As you make your bed, so you must lie in it."
April 20, 2007 8:37 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
"Freedom means the opportunity to be what we never thought we would be."
April 20, 2007 8:38 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
"The most important political office is that of the private citizen."
April 20, 2007 8:40 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
"In a democracy, dissent is an act of faith."
April 20, 2007 8:44 PM
Call Yvette 994-9648 said...
We have the Hard Copy paper PETITION
Please call me and I will meet you to get it signed.
Please pass my number to other families thank you.
Call Yvette 994-9648
April 21, 2007 8:45 AM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
"arrogant oligarchy"
Oligarchy
1. a form of government in which all power is vested in a few persons or in a dominant class or clique; government by the few.
2. a state or organization so ruled.
3. the persons or class so ruling.
Sounds like "sire-level" mentality
April 21, 2007 2:13 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
"Those who stand for nothing fall for anything."
April 21, 2007 2:17 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
"I think there is one higher office than president and I would call that patriot."
April 21, 2007 2:19 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
"What luck for rulers, that men do not think."
April 21, 2007 2:20 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
"Force and fraud are in war the two cardinal virtues."
April 21, 2007 2:21 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
"We would all like to vote for the best man but he is never a candidate."
April 21, 2007 2:23 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
"Radical changes in world politics leave America with a heightened responsibility to be, for the world, an example of a genuinely free, democratic, just and humane society."
April 21, 2007 2:25 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
"My constituency is the desperate, the damned, the disinherited, the disrespected and the despised."
April 21, 2007 2:26 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
"Whenever a man has cast a longing eye on offices, a rottenness begins in his conduct."
April 21, 2007 2:27 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
"Whenever men take the law into their own hands, the loser is the law. And when the law loses, freedom languishes."
April 21, 2007 2:30 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
"Freedom of the press is guaranteed only to those who own one."
April 21, 2007 2:33 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
"Many politicians are in the habit of laying it down as a self-evident proposition that no people ought to be free till they are fit to use their freedom. The maxim is worthy of the fool in the old story who resolved not to go into the water till he had learned to swim."
April 21, 2007 2:35 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
"You have not converted a man because you have silenced him."
April 21, 2007 2:39 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
"I don't make jokes. I just watch the government and report the facts."
April 21, 2007 2:51 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
"Politics is the art of preventing people from taking part in affairs which properly concern them."
April 21, 2007 3:03 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
"A free America... means just this: individual freedom for all, rich or poor, or else this system of government we call democracy is only an expedient to enslave man to the machine and make him like it."
April 21, 2007 3:07 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
"To me, it seems a dreadful indignity to have a soul controlled by geography."
April 21, 2007 3:10 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
"From the equality of rights springs identity of our highest interests; you cannot subvert your neighbor's rights without striking a dangerous blow at your own."
April 21, 2007 3:12 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
"Fourscore and seven years ago our fathers brought forth on this continent, a new nation, conceived in Liberty, and dedicated to the proposition that all men are created equal."
April 21, 2007 3:14 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
"All the people like us are we, and everyone else is They."
April 21, 2007 3:17 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
"I have a dream that one day on the red hills of Georgia, the sons of former slaves and the sons of former slave owners will be able to sit together at the table of brotherhood."
April 21, 2007 3:19 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
"I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character."
April 21, 2007 3:20 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
"I believe in equality for everyone, except reporters."
April 21, 2007 3:24 PM
Call Yvette 994-9648 said...
2007, 2008, 2009, 2010:
We have the Hard Copy paper PETITION
Please call me and I will meet you to get it signed.
Please pass my number to other families thank you.
Call Yvette 994-9648
April 22, 2007 9:26 AM
My Graduation 2007 said...
My Graduation 2007
Class Ring - $400 (In Albuquerque)
Announcements/Cap & Gown - $200 (In Albuquerque)
Invitations - $150 (In Albuquerque)
Graduation pictures - $400 (In Albuquerque)
8 family members flying in - $3,600
Graduation party - $2,000
Having my entire family who encouraged me for the last 13 years celebrate with me at
THE PIT.....
PRICELESS!!!
April 22, 2007 12:25 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
THIS IS A HUGE ERROR WHICH WILL AFFECT ALL STUDENTS OUR FAMILIES OUR FRIENDS
2007 SENIORS
ps
THANK YOU FOR THIS BLOG SPOT!
April 22, 2007 9:44 PM
TO ALL SENIORS! said...
Have Faith in God, Believe in Yourself and Never Give Up on Your Dreams
"Be strong in the Lord and in his mighty power".
Ephesians 6:10 (NLT)
April 23, 2007 8:10 AM
Back to The Pit said...
The very recent decision to change graduation locations is having a very negative affect on our family. We have several family members that already scheduled time off and purchased airline tickets. This decision was not thought out very well, hence the mayor becoming involved along with tv monitors in place of being there in person, and the superintendent of schools apologizing for NOT taking everything into consideration.
Please return this matter to The Pit.
Sam
April 23, 2007 1:53 PM
SERIOUSLY… said...
SERIOUSLY…
SIMPLY, WHAT PRICE DO YOU PLACE ON A CELEBRATION OF LOVE AND LIFE?!
THE COST THE SAVINGS THAT MRS. CLEVELAND AND MR. VONANCKEN ALLUDE TO ABSOLUTELY DO NOT OUT WEIGH WHAT WILL BE COMPLETELY LOST!
YES, EVEN TO ATTEMPT TO PLACE A PRICE ON THIS ENTIRE PROCESS, CELEBRATION AND EVENT IS INAPPROPRIATE BECAUSE IT IS TRULY “PRICELESS”!
TO ARGUE THIS IMPORTANT POINT IS IGNORANCE AND….WELL….VERY WRONG.
April 23, 2007 7:25 PM
Anonymous said...
"You who are on the road
Must have a code that you can live by
And so become yourself
Because the past is just a good bye.
Teach your children well,
Their father's hell did slowly go by,
And feed them on your dreams
The one they picked, the one you'll know by.
Don't you ever ask them why, if they told you, you would cry,
So just look at them and sigh and know they love you.
And you, of tender years,
Can't know the fears that your elders grew by,
And so please help them with your youth,
They seek the truth before they can die.
Teach your parents well,
Their children's hell will slowly go by,
And feed them on your dreams
The one they picked, the one you'll know by.
Don't you ever ask them why, if they told you, you would cry,
So just look at them and sigh and know they love you."
April 23, 2007 8:10 PM
FIND A GOOD ATTORNEY! said...
07
Attention all families and 2007 graduates,
FIND A GOOD ATTORNEY!
Don't let them getaway with this because this will give them leverage over us for next year
2008 Families
April 23, 2007 9:19 PM
Families said...
It is really not about the change it is about our children. It is about failing to invoke democracy and allowing seniors and families to have a say in the matter.
April 24, 2007 1:18 PM
BIG TIME! said...
RRPS,
Man o man you really messed up BIG TIME!
April 24, 2007 6:52 PM
something or other said...
"my wonderment starts when you open your eyes
you take your very first breath, I see your abdomine rise
since we were itty-itty-bitty, we've been running together
from something or other, our hearts always beat louder"
April 24, 2007 8:43 PM
Call Yvette 994-9648 said...
2007, 2008, 2009, 2010:
We have the Hard Copy paper PETITION
Please call me and I will meet you to get it signed.
Please pass my number to other families thank you.
Call Yvette 994-9648
April 24, 2007 8:44 PM
$7,500 said...
The Star Center is going to cost us taxpayers, RRPS more then The Pit!
They said it would cost less?
They lied
Arnold
April 25, 2007 10:11 AM
To Dr. Cleveland said...
“Racism is still real – It is a power that gives specific people, groups or camps different access to opportunities and resources. Your decision has created advantages that disproportionately channels power and resources away from the seniors and families of this year’s graduating class.”
April 25, 2007 12:31 PM
40,000 PEOPLE said...
"REMEMBER THIS DECISION WILL AFFECT ALL GRADUATING SENIORS, THEIR FAMILIES AND LOVED ONES OVER THE NEXT 4 YEARS OR UNTIL THE NEW SCHOOL IS OPEN!"
YES, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010 WILL ALL BE AFFECTED!
THAT IS EASILY OVER 40,000 PEOPLE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ATTEND BUT WON'T BE ALLOWED!
BECAUSE EVERY YEAR WILL BE BIGGER THEN THE PREVIOUS YEAR!
Make sure you PASS this on!
Call Yvette 994-9648
April 25, 2007 2:26 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
“Everyone has already heard the arguments for and against returning the graduation ceremony to The Pit so there’s no reason to spend a lot of time rehashing what’s already been said. The only issue left to be decided is what most of the parents want to do. We believe that most of the parents want the ceremony to be held in The Pit. So our only request is that you authorize a vote so that we can see what the parents want. If most of them want to hold the ceremony at the Star Center, then we should hold it at the Star Center; if most of the parents want to return to the Pit, then that’s what we should do. If you feel you can’t authorize a vote, then the only fair decision is to return the ceremony to The Pit given that the decision was made without sufficient public input.
Further, the decision to move the ceremony to the Star Center disproportionately inconveniences larger families, many of whom happen to be Hispanic.”
April 25, 2007 4:18 PM
YIPPIEEE!! said...
THEY LIED!
THEY BARELY JUST SIGNED THE CONTRACT!
THEY CAN BREAK THE SO CALLED CONTRACT!
DON’T BELIEVE IT WHEN THEY TELL YOU THEY CAN’T!
BECAUSE THEY ACTUALLY CAN!
AND,
THE PIT IS STILL OPEN FOR BUSINESS ON MAY 19TH!
YIPPIEEE!!
April 25, 2007 4:35 PM
take it back said...
Take it back Sue,
Adam
April 25, 2007 8:11 PM
Anonymous said...
WE WOULD LIKE TO BE ALLOWED TO VOTE.
RRPS IS DENYING US THIS OPPORTUNITY.
OUR COUNTRY IS FOUNDED ON DEMOCRACY AND THIS IS IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION.
LET US VOTE.
“OF THE PEOPLE, BY THE PEOPLE, FOR THE PEOPLE"
April 26, 2007 10:59 AM
Roy said...
WE WOULD LIKE TO BE ALLOWED TO VOTE.
RRPS IS DENYING US THIS OPPORTUNITY.
OUR COUNTRY IS FOUNDED ON DEMOCRACY AND THIS IS IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION.
LET US VOTE.
“OF THE PEOPLE, BY THE PEOPLE, FOR THE PEOPLE"
April 26, 2007 11:02 AM
Sharon said...
WE WOULD LIKE TO BE ALLOWED TO VOTE.
RRPS IS DENYING US THIS OPPORTUNITY.
OUR COUNTRY IS FOUNDED ON DEMOCRACY AND THIS IS IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION.
LET US VOTE.
“OF THE PEOPLE, BY THE PEOPLE, FOR THE PEOPLE"
April 26, 2007 11:03 AM
Tony said...
WE WOULD LIKE TO BE ALLOWED TO VOTE.
RRPS IS DENYING US THIS OPPORTUNITY.
OUR COUNTRY IS FOUNDED ON DEMOCRACY AND THIS IS IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION.
LET US VOTE.
“OF THE PEOPLE, BY THE PEOPLE, FOR THE PEOPLE"
April 26, 2007 11:03 AM
Rick said...
WE WOULD LIKE TO BE ALLOWED TO VOTE.
RRPS IS DENYING US THIS OPPORTUNITY.
OUR COUNTRY IS FOUNDED ON DEMOCRACY AND THIS IS IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION.
LET US VOTE.
“OF THE PEOPLE, BY THE PEOPLE, FOR THE PEOPLE"
April 26, 2007 11:56 AM
Eddie said...
WE WOULD LIKE TO BE ALLOWED TO VOTE.
RRPS IS DENYING US THIS OPPORTUNITY.
OUR COUNTRY IS FOUNDED ON DEMOCRACY AND THIS IS IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION.
LET US VOTE.
“OF THE PEOPLE, BY THE PEOPLE, FOR THE PEOPLE"
April 26, 2007 12:01 PM
Gene said...
WE WOULD LIKE TO BE ALLOWED TO VOTE.
RRPS IS DENYING US THIS OPPORTUNITY.
OUR COUNTRY IS FOUNDED ON DEMOCRACY AND THIS IS IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION.
LET US VOTE.
“OF THE PEOPLE, BY THE PEOPLE, FOR THE PEOPLE"
April 26, 2007 12:07 PM
Chris said...
“OF THE PEOPLE, BY THE PEOPLE, FOR THE PEOPLE"
April 26, 2007 12:51 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
"A city cannot rise any higher than the level of its leaders”
April 26, 2007 3:14 PM
“Where have you gone Joe DiMaggio”? said...
As I understand it, RRPS had opposition for the very first graduation.
Certain persons did not want the graduation to be held outside of RR city limits. Thank goodness some of the SCHOOL BOARD members had the insight & foresight to realize the graduating class was so big they had to hold it at a venue larger then the high school gym. So they held it in Johnson Gym.
Then certain SCHOOL BOARD members realized that THE PIT would have to be used just due to the sheer numbers of the graduating class and family and loved ones in attendance.
Thank you, past SCHOOL BOARD members!
This entire crew today along with their think tank could learn a thing or two from you.
“Where have you gone Joe DiMaggio”?
Now we are going backwards and disregarding our seniors and their families, even though this is the largest graduating class in our school’s history. It is much bigger then the first two graduations and one of the biggest in the state this year. The future holds even bigger graduating classes to come.
Other city dwellers in RR, had advised our leaders that the Star Center is “too small”, for a long list of different activities.
So obviously it is too small for this year's graduation.
The decision is wrong, the effort is wasted, the timing was horrendous, the TV feeds are not the same as the real thing.
An important aspect in all of this is that those first SCHOOL BOARD members did not put their positions, interests, ego’s, power or thinking first. They put our children first, the way it should be.
GOD BLESS YOU.
April 26, 2007 4:05 PM
They put our children first said...
“OF THE PEOPLE, BY THE PEOPLE, FOR THE PEOPLE"
"A city cannot rise any higher than the level of its leaders”
“Where have you gone Joe DiMaggio”? said...
As I understand it, RRPS had opposition for the very first graduation.
Certain persons did not want the graduation to be held outside of RR city limits. Thank goodness some of the SCHOOL BOARD members had the insight & foresight to realize the graduating class was so big they had to hold it at a venue larger then the high school gym. So they held it in Johnson Gym.
Then certain SCHOOL BOARD members realized that THE PIT would have to be used just due to the sheer numbers of the graduating class and family and loved ones in attendance.
Thank you, past SCHOOL BOARD members!
This entire crew today along with their think tank could learn a thing or two from you.
“Where have you gone Joe DiMaggio”?
Now we are going backwards and disregarding our seniors and their families, even though this is the largest graduating class in our school’s history. It is much bigger then the first two graduations and one of the biggest in the state this year. The future holds even bigger graduating classes to come.
Other city dwellers in RR, had advised our leaders that the Star Center is “too small”, for a long list of different activities.
So obviously it is too small for this year's graduation.
The decision is wrong, the effort is wasted, the timing was horrendous, the TV feeds are not the same as the real thing.
An important aspect in all of this is that those first SCHOOL BOARD members did not put their positions, interests, ego’s, power or thinking first. They put our children first, the way it should be.
GOD BLESS YOU.
2007 FAMILIES AND SENIORS
April 26, 2007 4:24 PM
Call Yvette 994-9648 said...
2007, 2008, 2009, 2010:
We have the Hard Copy paper PETITION
Please call me and I will meet you to get it signed.
Please pass my number to other families thank you.
Call Yvette 994-9648
April 27, 2007 8:19 AM
Anonymous said...
"Politics is the art of preventing people from taking part in affairs which properly concern them."
April 27, 2007 2:26 PM
No savings at all said...
No savings at all!!!
The Center will end up costing more the THE PIT!!
They said they would be saving money, the won't be!
SERIOUSLY… said...
SERIOUSLY…
SIMPLY, WHAT PRICE DO YOU PLACE ON A CELEBRATION OF LOVE AND LIFE?!
THE COST THE SAVINGS THAT MRS. CLEVELAND AND MR. VONANCKEN ALLUDE TO ABSOLUTELY DO NOT OUT WEIGH WHAT WILL BE COMPLETELY LOST!
YES, EVEN TO ATTEMPT TO PLACE A PRICE ON THIS ENTIRE PROCESS, CELEBRATION AND EVENT IS INAPPROPRIATE BECAUSE IT IS TRULY “PRICELESS”!
TO ARGUE THIS IMPORTANT POINT IS IGNORANCE AND….WELL….VERY WRONG.
April 28, 2007 10:26 AM
Families and Graduates said...
The RRPS decision will hurt graduation for the next four years.
We will need families most affected to sign the PETITION,
call Yvette at 994-9648
2007, 2008, 2009, 2010:
We have the Hard Copy paper PETITION
Please call me and I will meet you to get it signed.
Please pass my number to other families thank you.
Call Yvette 994-9648
April 28, 2007 11:22 AM
no vision said...
The City of Vision has been blinded by the LIES!
Stephen
April 28, 2007 12:48 PM
Wake up little Susie! said...
She is still asleep
Anonymous said...
So who's going to wake up little Susie?
April 28, 2007 2:19 PM
THE PIT said...
Keep passing the word along The Pit is still available.
April 28, 2007 5:57 PM
"little Johnny" said...
There are a number of people, both here and in the press, who keep dragging "little Johnny," a graduating senior, along with his family, into this mess.
After enduring the callous, condescending remarks, and lack of common courtesy, Little Johnny woke up the other morning and got his blog on!
http://littlejohnnyinriorancho.blogspot.com/
April 29, 2007 1:17 PM
IS IT TRUE? said...
Is it true Mr. VonAncken always tells students in his speeches “the choice is yours” but the reality is.....not this time?
April 29, 2007 9:04 PM
Families and Graduates said...
The RRPS decision will hurt graduation for the next four years.
We will need families most affected to sign the PETITION,
call Yvette at 994-9648
2007, 2008, 2009, 2010:
We have the Hard Copy paper PETITION
Please call me and I will meet you to get it signed.
Please pass my number to other families thank you.
Call Yvette 994-9648
April 30, 2007 7:53 AM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
Seniors and Families,
"Always vote for principle, though you may vote alone, and you may cherish the sweetest reflection that your vote is never lost."
April 30, 2007 7:30 PM
M said...
I did not read every comment posted yet, so if someone already said this better, then at least good thinkers see eye to eye, hah.
This is a case of “THE GLASS IS HALF FULL OR THE GLASS IS HALF EMPTY”,
I do agree with all the reasons, logic and merits to have the graduation in Rio Rancho.
But…..I also agree with every single reason THE CLASS OF 2007 SHOULD HAVE STAYED AT THE PIT.
Plain and simple, the decision and how it was enforced was WRONG!!
Mario
April 30, 2007 8:36 PM
Never again in our lifetime said...
At Three minutes and Four seconds after 2 AM on the 6th of May This Year,
the time and date will be 02:03:04 05/06/07.
This will Never happen again in our lifetime.
April 30, 2007 8:42 PM
We are not enemies said...
~ We are not enemies,
But friends.
We must not be enemies.
Though passion may have strained
It must not break our bonds of affection.
The mystic chords of memory . . .
. . . Will yet swell
When again touched,
As surely they will be,
By the better Angels of our Nature ~
April 30, 2007 8:57 PM
NEED TICKETS PLEASE said...
NEED TICKETS PLEASE!
IF ANYONE HAS ANY EXTRA GRADUATION TICKETS THEY DO NOT NEED PLEASE EMAIL ME AT
acharles7591@aol.com
Thanks to this decision, I really hate having to choose which family member can go and who can't.
As everyone has to do that will not have enough tickets.
Thank you,
May 1, 2007 11:26 AM
CLASS OF 2007 said...
we was robbed!!!
May 1, 2007 12:26 PM
My Graduation 2007 said...
My Graduation 2007
Class Ring - $400 (In Albuquerque)
Announcements/Cap & Gown - $200 (In Albuquerque)
Invitations - $150 (In Albuquerque)
Graduation pictures - $400 (In Albuquerque)
8 family members flying in - $3,600
Graduation party - $2,000
Having my entire family who encouraged me for the last 13 years celebrate with me at
THE PIT.....
PRICELESS!!!
May 1, 2007 8:33 PM
Anonymous said...
NEED TICKETS PLEASE said...
NEED TICKETS PLEASE!
IF ANYONE HAS ANY EXTRA GRADUATION TICKETS THEY DO NOT NEED PLEASE EMAIL ME AT
acharles7591@aol.com
Thanks to this decision, I really hate having to choose which family member can go and who can't.
As everyone has to do that will not have enough tickets.
Thank you,
May 2, 2007 5:54 AM
GOD BLESS YOU said...
They put our children first said...
“OF THE PEOPLE, BY THE PEOPLE, FOR THE PEOPLE"
"A city cannot rise any higher than the level of its leaders”
“Where have you gone Joe DiMaggio”? said...
As I understand it, RRPS had opposition for the very first graduation.
Certain persons did not want the graduation to be held outside of RR city limits. Thank goodness some of the SCHOOL BOARD members had the insight & foresight to realize the graduating class was so big they had to hold it at a venue larger then the high school gym. So they held it in Johnson Gym.
Then certain SCHOOL BOARD members realized that THE PIT would have to be used just due to the sheer numbers of the graduating class and family and loved ones in attendance.
Thank you, past SCHOOL BOARD members!
This entire crew today along with their think tank could learn a thing or two from you.
“Where have you gone Joe DiMaggio”?
Now we are going backwards and disregarding our seniors and their families, even though this is the largest graduating class in our school’s history. It is much bigger then the first two graduations and one of the biggest in the state this year. The future holds even bigger graduating classes to come.
Other city dwellers in RR, had advised our leaders that the Star Center is “too small”, for a long list of different activities.
So obviously it is too small for this year's graduation.
The decision is wrong, the effort is wasted, the timing was horrendous, the TV feeds are not the same as the real thing.
An important aspect in all of this is that those first SCHOOL BOARD members did not put their positions, interests, ego’s, power or thinking first. They put our children first, the way it should be.
GOD BLESS YOU.
2007 FAMILIES AND SENIORS
May 2, 2007 5:58 AM
Families and Graduates said...
The RRPS decision will hurt graduation for the next four years.
We will need families most affected to sign the PETITION,
call Yvette at 994-9648
2007, 2008, 2009, 2010:
We have the Hard Copy paper PETITION
Please call me and I will meet you to get it signed.
Please pass my number to other families thank you.
Call Yvette 994-9648
May 2, 2007 4:17 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
The seniors of the class of 2007 would like to acknowledge RRPS for:
Failing to listening to reason, for stressing us, for lying to us, for disregarding our celebration, for punishing us for something we did not do, for providing us with tacky announcements, for burdening our families with expenditures for travel, with discriminating against anyone with a large family, or large network, for telling us “the choice is yours”, but it never was, for a disrespectful board president, for a superintendent that claimed she knew all the reasons, but later after making things worse admitted to failing to know all the reasons, for a dishonest principal, for no help from the mayor, for making us have to choose who goes and who stays, for being dictators, for threatening families and students that spoke up, for telling us to get over it, for telling us life is hard get over it, for telling us we are greedy, for a BIG MESS!
May 2, 2007 4:29 PM
little johnny said...
RRPS has created a situation where the families of graduating seniors are made to feel like gate crashers.
Way to congratulate the graduates!
May 3, 2007 7:29 AM
Anonymous said...
NEED TICKETS PLEASE said...
NEED TICKETS PLEASE!
IF ANYONE HAS ANY EXTRA GRADUATION TICKETS THEY DO NOT NEED PLEASE EMAIL ME AT
acharles7591@aol.com
Thanks to this decision, I really hate having to choose which family member can go and who can't.
As everyone has to do that will not have enough tickets.
Thank you,
May 3, 2007 11:42 AM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
Everything that we would have like to have said is right here among all of these comments.
We would like thank everyone that spoke up.
Too bad RRPS is not listening to a word we’re saying.
2007 SENIORS
May 3, 2007 11:51 AM
Anonymous said...
Keep passing the word along The Pit is still available.
May 3, 2007 8:23 PM
Families and Graduates said...
The RRPS decision will hurt graduation for the next four years.
We will need families most affected to sign the PETITION,
call Yvette at 994-9648
2007, 2008, 2009, 2010:
We have the Hard Copy paper PETITION
Please call me and I will meet you to get it signed.
Please pass my number to other families thank you.
Call Yvette 994-9648
May 4, 2007 12:01 PM
"FEAR NOT" said...
.
"Fear not the path of truth for the lack of people walking on it."
May 4, 2007 4:27 PM
TO RRPS said...
Thank YOU.
Thank you for messing up the 2007 graduation.
I don't have enough tickets
Shawn
May 4, 2007 7:19 PM
NEED TICKETS PLEASE said...
NEED TICKETS PLEASE!
IF ANYONE HAS ANY EXTRA GRADUATION TICKETS THEY DO NOT NEED PLEASE EMAIL ME AT
acharles7591@aol.com
Thanks to this decision, I really hate having to choose which family member can go and who can't.
As everyone has to do that will not have enough tickets.
Thank you,
May 5, 2007 11:28 AM
America said...
from the Indians who welcomed the pilgrims
know your history
May 5, 2007 3:27 PM
49,000 PEOPLE said...
"REMEMBER THIS DECISION WILL AFFECT ALL GRADUATING SENIORS, THEIR FAMILIES AND LOVED ONES OVER THE NEXT 4 YEARS OR UNTIL THE NEW SCHOOL IS OPEN!"
YES, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010 WILL ALL BE AFFECTED!
THAT IS EASILY OVER 40,000 PEOPLE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ATTEND BUT WON'T BE ALLOWED!
BECAUSE EVERY YEAR WILL BE BIGGER THEN THE PREVIOUS YEAR!
Make sure you PASS this on!
Call Yvette 994-9648
May 5, 2007 4:43 PM
history said...
"Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it."
May 5, 2007 6:15 PM
wrong said...
Dr. Sue Cleveland,
you did us wrong,
2007 Seniors
May 6, 2007 3:08 PM
African Proverb: said...
Dr. Cleveland,
This was your motto at one time:
"It takes a village to raise a child."
Now it appears your motto is:
"But only LIMITED amount of that village is allowed to attend the child's graduation"
2007 SENIORS
May 6, 2007 5:33 PM
Come together said...
"Come together right now over me"
May 7, 2007 11:06 AM
NEED TICKETS PLEASE said...
NEED TICKETS PLEASE!
IF ANYONE HAS ANY EXTRA GRADUATION TICKETS THEY DO NOT NEED PLEASE EMAIL ME AT
acharles7591@aol.com
Thanks to this decision, I really hate having to choose which family member can go and who can't.
As everyone has to do that will not have enough tickets.
Thank you,
May 7, 2007 11:07 AM
CALL said...
"REMEMBER THIS DECISION WILL AFFECT ALL GRADUATING SENIORS, THEIR FAMILIES AND LOVED ONES OVER THE NEXT 4 YEARS OR UNTIL THE NEW SCHOOL IS OPEN!"
YES, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010 WILL ALL BE AFFECTED!
THAT IS EASILY OVER 49,000 to 59,000 PEOPLE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ATTEND BUT WON'T BE ALLOWED!
BECAUSE EVERY YEAR WILL BE BIGGER THEN THE PREVIOUS YEAR!
Make sure you PASS this on!
Call Yvette 994-9648
May 9, 2007 8:59 AM
HELP said...
NEED TICKETS PLEASE!
IF ANYONE HAS ANY EXTRA GRADUATION TICKETS THEY DO NOT NEED PLEASE EMAIL ME AT
acharles7591@aol.com
Thanks to this decision, I really hate having to choose which family member can go and who can't.
As everyone has to do that will not have enough tickets.
Thank you,
May 9, 2007 3:26 PM
Wrong said...
wrong decision Sue, you apologized, but when my children were little they thought they could apologize and that would correct or excuse their wrong. I had to additionally let them know, that sorry does not cut it. Depending on the circumstance and situation, an apology all by itself does not cut it, does not excuse the wrong.
Sue, sorry does not cut it.
May 10, 2007 9:06 AM
2008 said...
DON'T GIVE UP!!
May 10, 2007 9:06 PM
Families said...
CONGRATULATIONS CLASS OF 2007!
May 11, 2007 10:16 AM
Tickets said...
NEED TICKETS PLEASE!
IF ANYONE HAS ANY EXTRA GRADUATION TICKETS THEY DO NOT NEED PLEASE EMAIL ME AT
acharles7591@aol.com
Thanks to this decision, I really hate having to choose which family member can go and who can't.
As everyone has to do that will not have enough tickets.
Thank you,
May 12, 2007 12:50 PM
SCHOOL BOARD MEETING MONDAY MAY 14TH said...
SCHOOL BOARD MEETING MONDAY MAY 14TH
May 13, 2007 12:15 PM
Mothers said...
Dr. Cleveland anc RRPS,
Thank you for ruining the Class of 2007's GRADUATION.
We went to UNM's yesterday,
what a GREAT EVENT,
they went on and on about everyone coming, including FAMILY and FREINDS!
The speeches did not at all limit anyone from attending, they encouraged and welcomed diversity.
May 13, 2007 12:29 PM
"It takes a village to raise a child" said...
it does
May 14, 2007 3:07 PM
Nathan said...
Thank you to everyone that spoke up against this decision
May 14, 2007 6:14 PM
still need said...
NEED TICKETS PLEASE!
IF ANYONE HAS ANY EXTRA GRADUATION TICKETS THEY DO NOT NEED PLEASE EMAIL ME AT
acharles7591@aol.com
Thanks to this decision, I really hate having to choose which family member can go and who can't.
As everyone has to do that will not have enough tickets.
Thank you,
May 15, 2007 7:20 AM
2008, 2009, 2010 said...
CALL said...
"REMEMBER THIS DECISION WILL AFFECT ALL GRADUATING SENIORS, THEIR FAMILIES AND LOVED ONES OVER THE NEXT 4 YEARS OR UNTIL THE NEW SCHOOL IS OPEN!"
YES, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010 WILL ALL BE AFFECTED!
THAT IS EASILY OVER 49,000 to 59,000 PEOPLE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ATTEND BUT WON'T BE ALLOWED!
BECAUSE EVERY YEAR WILL BE BIGGER THEN THE PREVIOUS YEAR!
Make sure you PASS this on!
Call Yvette 994-9648
May 16, 2007 2:53 PM
"the choice" was not ours: said...
My Graduation 2007
Class Ring - $400 (In Albuquerque)
Announcements/Cap & Gown - $200 (In Albuquerque)
Invitations - $150 (In Albuquerque)
Graduation pictures - $400 (In Albuquerque)
8 family members flying in - $3,600
Graduation party - $2,000
Having my entire family who encouraged me for the last 13 years celebrate with me at
THE PIT.....
PRICELESS!!!
May 16, 2007 2:54 PM
no vote allowed said...
sorry 2007
May 16, 2007 2:55 PM
Sue's legacy said...
Dr. Cleveland,
As this matter unfolds,
more negative things occur, due to your change of location for graduation.
I will from now on be reminded of the 2007 graduation, when I hear your name.
May 17, 2007 9:59 AM
YES still need said...
NEED TICKETS PLEASE!
IF ANYONE HAS ANY EXTRA GRADUATION TICKETS THEY DO NOT NEED PLEASE EMAIL ME AT
acharles7591@aol.com
Thanks to this decision, I really hate having to choose which family member can go and who can't.
As everyone has to do that will not have enough tickets.
Thank you,
May 18, 2007 1:17 PM
done deal said...
Congrats 2007
May 20, 2007 10:15 PM
"the choice" was not ours: said...
My Graduation 2007
Class Ring - $400 (In Albuquerque)
Announcements/Cap & Gown - $200 (In Albuquerque)
Invitations - $150 (In Albuquerque)
Graduation pictures - $400 (In Albuquerque)
8 family members flying in - $3,600
Graduation party - $2,000
Having my entire family who encouraged me for the last 13 years celebrate with me at
THE PIT.....
PRICELESS!!!
It did not happen, 8 tickets was not enough, I had to pick and choose it honestly was horrible. The 8 that came thoroughly enjoyed the ceremony, I enjoyed them being there too, but I also thought about my family that were not allowed to come and I cried.
May 22, 2007 5:16 PM
2008, 2009, 2010 said...
"REMEMBER THIS DECISION WILL AFFECT ALL GRADUATING SENIORS, THEIR FAMILIES AND LOVED ONES OVER THE NEXT 4 YEARS OR UNTIL THE NEW SCHOOL IS OPEN!"
YES, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010 WILL ALL BE AFFECTED!
THAT IS EASILY OVER 49,000 to 59,000 PEOPLE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ATTEND BUT WON'T BE ALLOWED!
BECAUSE EVERY YEAR WILL BE BIGGER THEN THE PREVIOUS YEAR!
Make sure you PASS this on!
Call Yvette 994-9648
May 23, 2007 7:35 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
EVERYTHING THAT NEEDED TO BE SAID WAS SAID
WE THANK EVERYONE THAT SPOKE UP
TOO BAD RRPS DID NOT LISTEN
2007 SENIORS AND FAMILIES
May 25, 2007 11:00 AM
Dr. Cleveland once believed said...
Dr. Cleveland,
"It takes a village to raise a child."
Thank you for ruining our graduation
2007 SENIORS & FAMILIES
May 25, 2007 3:10 PM
sure we did not boo said...
we did not boo,
we have better tact
then those that did boo in 06,
we showed you we did not deserve to be penalized for their behavior,
if you noticed we did not clap for certain people either,
the observer still got it wrong,
you all got it wrong,
you all need to find out why the booed in 06,
you deserved it then,
you deserve it now
og
May 26, 2007 9:24 PM
We did not boo you said...
we did not boo you,
even though you deserved it,
we have better tact
then those that did boo you in 06,
we showed you we did not deserve to be penalized for their behavior,
if you noticed we did not clap for certain people either,
the observer still got it wrong,
you all got it wrong,
you all need to find out why they booed you in 06,
you deserved to be booed then,
you deserve to be booed now
og again
May 27, 2007 10:29 AM
2008, 2009, 2010 said...
"REMEMBER THIS DECISION BY RRPS WILL AFFECT ALL GRADUATING SENIORS, THEIR FAMILIES AND LOVED ONES OVER THE NEXT 4 YEARS OR UNTIL THE NEW SCHOOL IS OPEN!"
YES, NOW 2008, 2009, 2010 WILL ALL BE AFFECTED!
FROM 2007 IS EASILY OVER 49,000 to 59,000 PEOPLE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ATTEND BUT WON'T BE ALLOWED!
BECAUSE EVERY YEAR WILL BE BIGGER THEN THE PREVIOUS YEAR!
Make sure you PASS this on!
Call Yvette 994-9648
May 27, 2007 5:48 PM
2008 said...
BACK TO THE PIT!
May 28, 2007 8:35 PM
Anonymous said...
WE DID IT SENIORS!!!!
2007 RULES
May 29, 2007 12:49 PM
Anonymous said...
CONGRATULATIONS CLASS OF 2007!
May 30, 2007 7:32 PM
2008 said...
BACK TO THE PIT,
NOT TO THE CASINO!!
June 2, 2007 8:35 PM
Anonymous said...
back to The PIT in 08
June 3, 2007 10:43 AM
Santa Ana Star Center/Mayor said...
Mayor backed The Pit change
when we tried to get his help,
he was backing the move and Dr. Cleveland
Front Page of ABQ Journal
http://www.abqjournal.com/news/metro/568021metro06-03-07.htm
Sunday, June 3, 2007
Rio Rancho Pulls Mayor's Credit Card
By Sean Olson
Copyright © 2007 Albuquerque Journal; Journal Staff Writer
Rio Rancho city staff have revoked Mayor Kevin Jackson's city-issued credit card over nearly $8,000 in purchases primarily made at the Santa Ana Star Center for renting out suites, buying food and paying for concert tickets.
"It would be very difficult to determine a public purpose for just handing out tickets," interim city manager Jim Babin said Friday.
City Fiscal Services director Dick Kristof said Friday that Jackson's purchasing card— a city-issued credit card— was canceled May 17 and a new one has been issued to the city. The new card "is not available" to Jackson, Kristof said.
City spokesman Peter Wells said a city audit into the credit card records will continue.
Jackson's attorney, B.J. Crow, said Saturday that he has not seen any details to allegations against Jackson and has only one comment until he does.
"Mr. Jackson is adamant that no city funds have been misspent," Crow said.
Jackson has been out of town and has not returned Journal messages.
In a May 24 letter to his administrative assistant, Jackson claims he did not specifically ask for some of the entertainment charges to be put on the city's card.
"This past week, I was shown a bill for my credit card that had many charges on it that I did not make," the letter states.
His letter recommends changes that better track expenditures for travel and the event center, and requests a monthly report on all expenses from the mayor's budget.
He also said in the letter that he realizes that his administrative assistant is "often put in a position to charge something based on calls from others for tickets, events, etc. especially when others say that the Mayor said so or this is official business."
Memo stated concerns
All of the questionable purchases appeared on the monthly summary of purchasing that Jackson signed.
Babin sent a memo to Jackson on May 18— a day after Jackson's card was canceled— outlining concerns that city personnel had raised over Jackson's purchasing habits throughout the year.
"Again, we are not authorized to expend public funds to purchase tickets in order to give them to other people, including City or State employees, unless there is an official city function being hosted— one which has a defined benefit to the city as a whole," the memo said.
The memo also questioned "various lunches" and one purchase for $11 worth of alcohol. City policy does not allow public funds to be spent on alcohol.
Jackson signed a card holder agreement in March 2006 for the credit card that outlines the rules of using the card.
The agreement states "under no circumstances will I use the Purchasing Card to make personal purchases."
City records show that Jackson on May 24— after his credit card had been revoked— reimbursed the city for about $600 of the $8,000 questioned.
It was to refund $216 worth of Moody Blues tickets, $184 for refreshments at the concert and about $200 worth of food from Sal E Boys Pizza in Rio Rancho and Chili's Grill, according to a memo sent to city staff from Jackson's administrative assistant.
Among other purchases that raised concerns included:
April transactions for about $2,600 worth of tickets and refreshments for concerts, New Mexico Scorpions playoff tickets and a business dinner with new city manager Jim Payne.
March transactions of about $1,100 worth of Santa Ana Star Center purchases.
February transactions of about $1,900 in tickets— including $1,600 worth for Willie Nelson tickets.
November transactions of $1,281 for travel and events center tickets.
Babin said that Jackson has been asked to justify the use of the credit card for those transactions and others but that he has not heard from him on the issue.
"If they were for private purchases, he would have to reimburse us," Babin said.
Check fraud alleged
Jackson is already facing an investigation by a U.S. Inspector General over allegations that he misspent federal grant funds while running his former nonprofit, New Mexico Family Council— Best Choice.
And Family Council officials say that they filed a report with the Rio Rancho Department of Public Safety on Thursday alleging that Jackson committed check fraud.
Family Council officials have also sent a demand letter to Jackson for a refund of at least two trips.
City records show that two trips made by the mayor— one to Fort Meyers, Fla., from Nov. 2-5, and another to Baltimore from March 18-21— were charged to the city credit card.
Family Council officials have said their records show that Jackson was reimbursed by that organization for those trips, as well.
Meanwhile, Jackson has had large increases in his mayor's budget in comparison to former mayors.
All of the Santa Ana Star Center charges fall under the "other costs" portion of the mayor's budget. Traditionally, that portion of the budget has been set at $500 a year.
Jackson's "other costs" budget has been increased to $9,600 through the fiscal year, which ends June 30, using transfers from other line items in the mayor's budget.
The total mayor's budget has increased about $18,000— to $83,000. Of that, about $69,000 has been spent.
Travel costs have gone above originally budgeted levels and an increase of about $8,500 has been added this year.
Jackson, who started the Family Council in 2001 and managed it until three weeks ago, was fired amid allegations of "mismanagement" of federal grant funds, including giving himself a raise from $62,000 to $85,000 without board of directors or grant administrator consent.
The Family Council also cited questionable travel expenses and unauthorized donations to other nonprofits as reasons for the firing.
June 3, 2007 11:38 AM
Anonymous said...
action jackson,
say it ain't so!
June 3, 2007 8:23 PM
Anonymous said...
Mayor,
chickens have come home to roost
June 4, 2007 2:39 PM
2008, 2009, 2010 said...
"REMEMBER THIS DECISION BY RRPS WILL AFFECT ALL GRADUATING SENIORS, THEIR FAMILIES AND LOVED ONES OVER THE NEXT 4 YEARS OR UNTIL THE NEW SCHOOL IS OPEN!"
YES, NOW 2008, 2009, 2010 WILL ALL BE AFFECTED!
FROM 2007, NOW EASILY
OVER 49,000 to 59,000 PEOPLE
THAT WOULD LIKE TO ATTEND BUT WON'T BE ALLOWED!
BECAUSE EVERY YEAR WILL BE BIGGER THEN THE PREVIOUS YEAR!
Make sure you PASS this on!
Call Yvette 994-9648
June 4, 2007 3:47 PM
Anonymous said...
To Mayor J. and Dr. Cleveland,
what comes around goes around
June 4, 2007 6:10 PM
Anonymous said...
Sue Cleveland,
back to the pit
June 5, 2007 8:37 AM
2008 said...
we want the PIT
June 5, 2007 2:12 PM
liar liar pants on fire said...
Action Jackson and the super you both lied
June 6, 2007 4:59 PM
Anonymous said...
Hasta la vista Baby!
June 6, 2007 8:30 PM
go back said...
TO THE PIT!!
The casino was not that good,
big deal they had my name in lights,
so what,
my grandparents could not go!
I'd rather have family there not my name in lights
07Senior
June 7, 2007 11:53 AM
Anonymous said...
2008 Families, we want to go back to the PIT
June 7, 2007 2:56 PM
Anonymous said...
The mayor backed the WRONG horse and so did rrps.
RRPS families
June 7, 2007 3:25 PM
GO RAMS!!! said...
ROCK THE PIT AGAIN!
June 7, 2007 9:03 PM
Gary put his foot in his mouth said...
Gary Herron is completely out of line with his philosophy regarding who can and who can’t attend graduations.
Please make sure you send this out to everyone in your email address book, every Blog space, every "my space" location, hey, even share it with strangers you pass on the street.
I just read this in the newspaper and then a comment about it here on the Blog.
I don’t want to say anything mean spirited here but this needs to be passed on.
Also, run down the article in the Observer’s 3/25/07 Sunday issue and read all of it.
Part of BLOG COMMENT:
Gary, you actually wrote 10 year olds and under “should have stayed home”?
I don’t want to have my figures wrong or did you mean, 9 year olds and under “should have stayed home”?
I hope your foot is not that big?
I hope your quote gets passed around to every mother and father across this country.
May I respectfully ask you, who are you to discriminate against age?
(Perhaps I should count my blessing you don’t have S. Cleveland, R. Von Ancken and B. Duncan’s position)
I wonder now Gary, were you part of the think tank to get the decision through? Just asking.
June 8, 2007 8:04 AM
2008 said...
“BACK TO THE PIT
FAMILY AND FRIENDS OF RIO RANCHO HIGH SCHOOL GRADUATES DISCUSSION GROUP”
After reading your blogs, newspaper stories, and the newscasts, Dr. Cleveland we want the 2008 graduation at THE PIT, thank you.
June 8, 2007 9:09 AM
505 said...
The Pit
June 8, 2007 6:33 PM
Anonymous said...
2008 wants to go Back To The Pit
June 9, 2007 10:52 AM
2008, 2009, 2010 said...
"REMEMBER THIS DECISION BY RRPS WILL AFFECT ALL GRADUATING SENIORS, THEIR FAMILIES AND LOVED ONES OVER THE NEXT 4 YEARS OR UNTIL THE NEW SCHOOL IS OPEN!"
YES, NOW 2008, 2009, 2010 WILL ALL BE AFFECTED!
INCLUDING THE CLASS OF 2007,
NOW EASILY
OVER 49,000 to 59,000 PEOPLE
THAT WOULD LIKE TO ATTEND
WON'T BE ALLOWED TO ATTEND!
BECAUSE EACH YEAR EACH CLASS WILL BE BIGGER THEN THE PREVIOUS YEAR!
Make sure you PASS this on!
Call Yvette 994-9648
June 9, 2007 12:05 PM
Santa Ana Star Center/Mayor said...
The Mayor backed The Pit change
when we tried to get his help,
he was backing the move and Dr. Cleveland
From the Front Page of ABQ Journal
http://www.abqjournal.com/news/metro/568021metro06-03-07.htm
Sunday, June 3, 2007
Rio Rancho Pulls Mayor's Credit Card
By Sean Olson
Copyright © 2007 Albuquerque Journal; Journal Staff Writer
Rio Rancho city staff have revoked Mayor Kevin Jackson's city-issued credit card over nearly $8,000 in purchases primarily made at the Santa Ana Star Center for renting out suites, buying food and paying for concert tickets.
"It would be very difficult to determine a public purpose for just handing out tickets," interim city manager Jim Babin said Friday.
City Fiscal Services director Dick Kristof said Friday that Jackson's purchasing card— a city-issued credit card— was canceled May 17 and a new one has been issued to the city. The new card "is not available" to Jackson, Kristof said.
City spokesman Peter Wells said a city audit into the credit card records will continue.
Jackson's attorney, B.J. Crow, said Saturday that he has not seen any details to allegations against Jackson and has only one comment until he does.
"Mr. Jackson is adamant that no city funds have been misspent," Crow said.
Jackson has been out of town and has not returned Journal messages.
In a May 24 letter to his administrative assistant, Jackson claims he did not specifically ask for some of the entertainment charges to be put on the city's card.
"This past week, I was shown a bill for my credit card that had many charges on it that I did not make," the letter states.
His letter recommends changes that better track expenditures for travel and the event center, and requests a monthly report on all expenses from the mayor's budget.
He also said in the letter that he realizes that his administrative assistant is "often put in a position to charge something based on calls from others for tickets, events, etc. especially when others say that the Mayor said so or this is official business."
Memo stated concerns
All of the questionable purchases appeared on the monthly summary of purchasing that Jackson signed.
Babin sent a memo to Jackson on May 18— a day after Jackson's card was canceled— outlining concerns that city personnel had raised over Jackson's purchasing habits throughout the year.
"Again, we are not authorized to expend public funds to purchase tickets in order to give them to other people, including City or State employees, unless there is an official city function being hosted— one which has a defined benefit to the city as a whole," the memo said.
The memo also questioned "various lunches" and one purchase for $11 worth of alcohol. City policy does not allow public funds to be spent on alcohol.
Jackson signed a card holder agreement in March 2006 for the credit card that outlines the rules of using the card.
The agreement states "under no circumstances will I use the Purchasing Card to make personal purchases."
City records show that Jackson on May 24— after his credit card had been revoked— reimbursed the city for about $600 of the $8,000 questioned.
It was to refund $216 worth of Moody Blues tickets, $184 for refreshments at the concert and about $200 worth of food from Sal E Boys Pizza in Rio Rancho and Chili's Grill, according to a memo sent to city staff from Jackson's administrative assistant.
Among other purchases that raised concerns included:
April transactions for about $2,600 worth of tickets and refreshments for concerts, New Mexico Scorpions playoff tickets and a business dinner with new city manager Jim Payne.
March transactions of about $1,100 worth of Santa Ana Star Center purchases.
February transactions of about $1,900 in tickets— including $1,600 worth for Willie Nelson tickets.
November transactions of $1,281 for travel and events center tickets.
Babin said that Jackson has been asked to justify the use of the credit card for those transactions and others but that he has not heard from him on the issue.
"If they were for private purchases, he would have to reimburse us," Babin said.
Check fraud alleged
Jackson is already facing an investigation by a U.S. Inspector General over allegations that he misspent federal grant funds while running his former nonprofit, New Mexico Family Council— Best Choice.
And Family Council officials say that they filed a report with the Rio Rancho Department of Public Safety on Thursday alleging that Jackson committed check fraud.
Family Council officials have also sent a demand letter to Jackson for a refund of at least two trips.
City records show that two trips made by the mayor— one to Fort Meyers, Fla., from Nov. 2-5, and another to Baltimore from March 18-21— were charged to the city credit card.
Family Council officials have said their records show that Jackson was reimbursed by that organization for those trips, as well.
Meanwhile, Jackson has had large increases in his mayor's budget in comparison to former mayors.
All of the Santa Ana Star Center charges fall under the "other costs" portion of the mayor's budget. Traditionally, that portion of the budget has been set at $500 a year.
Jackson's "other costs" budget has been increased to $9,600 through the fiscal year, which ends June 30, using transfers from other line items in the mayor's budget.
The total mayor's budget has increased about $18,000— to $83,000. Of that, about $69,000 has been spent.
Travel costs have gone above originally budgeted levels and an increase of about $8,500 has been added this year.
Jackson, who started the Family Council in 2001 and managed it until three weeks ago, was fired amid allegations of "mismanagement" of federal grant funds, including giving himself a raise from $62,000 to $85,000 without board of directors or grant administrator consent.
The Family Council also cited questionable travel expenses and unauthorized donations to other nonprofits as reasons for the firing.
June 9, 2007 12:06 PM
Anonymous said...
2008 WILL ROCK THE PIT.....
June 9, 2007 12:44 PM
we might have to Rock JG?
que sara que sara
Sue and the Mayor,
it figures,
he sure was a BIG supporter of the Star Center Casino
Mayor, Mayor, Mayor,
you had close ties with this casino,
you and Sue were together on keeping the graduation in Rio Rancho at the casino at all costs,
where there is smoke there is fire
Sue and Mayor Jackson and RRPS and the observer,
You all can keep telling yourselves how wonderful this and that was.
Blah, blah, blah,
the issue you keep ignoring is the fact what you did was wrong.
10,000 more people that wanted to come could not
just so you could have your way.
thanks Roy for letting me know about this website.
We want The Pit
Cordova's
Attention RRPS,
I support the idea to return the graduation to Rio Rancho. But not at a casino and not the way you did this years families wrong.
Amanda C.
casino....?
center....?
call it what you will
they all scratch each other's backs
just ask the mayor and Sue
Excellent point, they ALL scratch one another's backs you got that right?
you are damn right I, we did not boo you, even though you deserved it our family did not boo you.
2007 not booing you did not occur because we chose not to.
Where we were sitting some did boo you just so you know. But they were not overly loud like last year.
2006 booed you because you deserved it, they could not contain themselves.
uh huh
bologna.....
take the graduations where more people can actually be there.....
the first two or three school boards had it right you need a bigger location not this center named after a casino....
that is very tacky
thank you for this web site.
We would our graduations to return to The Pit.
Conner
Rio Rancho Public Schools,
you ruined our plans, don't ruin it for future graduations
Martinez'
We love this site!
Stand up and be counted!
copy this link
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tjsz8VGXLqs&mode=related&search=
Back To The Pit
Let us return to a BIGGER venue please
All we are saying is give peace a chance
John L.
Rio Rancho families UNITE!
The Mayor backed the change
when we tried to get his help,
he was backing the move and Dr. Cleveland's decision to change the graduation.
He sure wanted the Star Center Casino to know he was backing them even though the decision was discriminatory.
From the Front Page of ABQ Journal
http://www.abqjournal.com/news/metro/568021metro06-03-07.htm
Sunday, June 3, 2007
Rio Rancho Pulls Mayor's Credit Card
By Sean Olson
Copyright © 2007 Albuquerque Journal; Journal Staff Writer
Rio Rancho city staff have revoked Mayor Kevin Jackson's city-issued credit card over nearly $8,000 in purchases primarily made at the Santa Ana Star Center for renting out suites, buying food and paying for concert tickets.
"It would be very difficult to determine a public purpose for just handing out tickets," interim city manager Jim Babin said Friday.
City Fiscal Services director Dick Kristof said Friday that Jackson's purchasing card— a city-issued credit card— was canceled May 17 and a new one has been issued to the city. The new card "is not available" to Jackson, Kristof said.
City spokesman Peter Wells said a city audit into the credit card records will continue.
Jackson's attorney, B.J. Crow, said Saturday that he has not seen any details to allegations against Jackson and has only one comment until he does.
"Mr. Jackson is adamant that no city funds have been misspent," Crow said.
Jackson has been out of town and has not returned Journal messages.
In a May 24 letter to his administrative assistant, Jackson claims he did not specifically ask for some of the entertainment charges to be put on the city's card.
"This past week, I was shown a bill for my credit card that had many charges on it that I did not make," the letter states.
His letter recommends changes that better track expenditures for travel and the event center, and requests a monthly report on all expenses from the mayor's budget.
He also said in the letter that he realizes that his administrative assistant is "often put in a position to charge something based on calls from others for tickets, events, etc. especially when others say that the Mayor said so or this is official business."
Memo stated concerns
All of the questionable purchases appeared on the monthly summary of purchasing that Jackson signed.
Babin sent a memo to Jackson on May 18— a day after Jackson's card was canceled— outlining concerns that city personnel had raised over Jackson's purchasing habits throughout the year.
"Again, we are not authorized to expend public funds to purchase tickets in order to give them to other people, including City or State employees, unless there is an official city function being hosted— one which has a defined benefit to the city as a whole," the memo said.
The memo also questioned "various lunches" and one purchase for $11 worth of alcohol. City policy does not allow public funds to be spent on alcohol.
Jackson signed a card holder agreement in March 2006 for the credit card that outlines the rules of using the card.
The agreement states "under no circumstances will I use the Purchasing Card to make personal purchases."
City records show that Jackson on May 24— after his credit card had been revoked— reimbursed the city for about $600 of the $8,000 questioned.
It was to refund $216 worth of Moody Blues tickets, $184 for refreshments at the concert and about $200 worth of food from Sal E Boys Pizza in Rio Rancho and Chili's Grill, according to a memo sent to city staff from Jackson's administrative assistant.
Among other purchases that raised concerns included:
April transactions for about $2,600 worth of tickets and refreshments for concerts, New Mexico Scorpions playoff tickets and a business dinner with new city manager Jim Payne.
March transactions of about $1,100 worth of Santa Ana Star Center purchases.
February transactions of about $1,900 in tickets— including $1,600 worth for Willie Nelson tickets.
November transactions of $1,281 for travel and events center tickets.
Babin said that Jackson has been asked to justify the use of the credit card for those transactions and others but that he has not heard from him on the issue.
"If they were for private purchases, he would have to reimburse us," Babin said.
Check fraud alleged
Jackson is already facing an investigation by a U.S. Inspector General over allegations that he misspent federal grant funds while running his former nonprofit, New Mexico Family Council— Best Choice.
And Family Council officials say that they filed a report with the Rio Rancho Department of Public Safety on Thursday alleging that Jackson committed check fraud.
Family Council officials have also sent a demand letter to Jackson for a refund of at least two trips.
City records show that two trips made by the mayor— one to Fort Meyers, Fla., from Nov. 2-5, and another to Baltimore from March 18-21— were charged to the city credit card.
Family Council officials have said their records show that Jackson was reimbursed by that organization for those trips, as well.
Meanwhile, Jackson has had large increases in his mayor's budget in comparison to former mayors.
All of the Santa Ana Star Center charges fall under the "other costs" portion of the mayor's budget. Traditionally, that portion of the budget has been set at $500 a year.
Jackson's "other costs" budget has been increased to $9,600 through the fiscal year, which ends June 30, using transfers from other line items in the mayor's budget.
The total mayor's budget has increased about $18,000— to $83,000. Of that, about $69,000 has been spent.
Travel costs have gone above originally budgeted levels and an increase of about $8,500 has been added this year.
Jackson, who started the Family Council in 2001 and managed it until three weeks ago, was fired amid allegations of "mismanagement" of federal grant funds, including giving himself a raise from $62,000 to $85,000 without board of directors or grant administrator consent.
The Family Council also cited questionable travel expenses and unauthorized donations to other nonprofits as reasons for the firing.
Mayor and Sue,
shame on you
Anne
OK, we tried it, now lets go Back To The PIT
i love this blog!
"REMEMBER THIS DECISION BY RRPS WILL AFFECT ALL GRADUATING SENIORS, THEIR FAMILIES AND LOVED ONES OVER THE NEXT 4 YEARS OR UNTIL THE NEW SCHOOL IS OPEN!"
YES, NOW 2008, 2009, 2010 WILL ALL BE AFFECTED!
INCLUDING THE CLASS OF 2007,
NOW EASILY
OVER 49,000 to 59,000 PEOPLE
THAT WOULD LIKE TO ATTEND
WON'T BE ALLOWED TO ATTEND!
BECAUSE EACH YEAR EACH CLASS WILL BE BIGGER THEN THE PREVIOUS YEAR!
Make sure you PASS this on!
Call Yvette 994-9648
NO to the casino center
BACK TO THE PIT
NOT THE CASINO
no casino..
si to THE PIT
OK, LET'S DO THIS PEACEFULLY, AND RETURN TO THE PIT NOT THE MAYOR'S PLACE
can't we all just get along,
looks like the mayor owed the star center?
Joe M
what a crock of crapola! we want everyone that wants to come to come not have restrictions, bull loney, so what the Mayor had tv feeds into a gym and so should we,
bah, look and Jackson now! what comes around is coming around on him. he was the same way when he kissed ass to get into the DOC. My uncle can give you all an ear full on the BSer, hah,
lets go Tonto,
hi ho Silver....!
Tonto says,
no Kimo Sabe....
lets go BACK TO THE PIT...!
RRPS,
can you see the BIG picture?
Back To The Pit in 08
in a southern drawl....
"SURPRISE....
SURPRISE......
SURPRISE...."
http://littlejohnnyinriorancho.blogspot.com/
HAPPY 4TH!!!
THIS CELEBRATION IS WHAT IT IS ALL ABOUT FOR OUR COUNTRY,
FREEDOM!!!
SOMETHING THE MAYOR, CLEVLELAND AND CO. NEED TO RE-READ!
SORRY SONS OF.....
SOB's is right, they got it wrong the Pit is a better arena
I am a 2006 graduate, I did not boo. I family and friends did not boo. 2007 should have booed the doors down. The administration deserved it more then they did in 2006.
we want the pit
gotta have that pit
sing again
we want the pit
gotta have that pit
tell me more
we want the pit
gotta have that pit
one more time
we want the pit
gotta have that pit
RIGHT ON
Da PIT
The graduation this year was bittersweet, let graduates and families have a choice.
Shenanagins!
That is what RRPS is about, right along with the mayor, birds of a feather flock together. They need to get that flock outta here!!!
the mayor the superintendent, the center the city of vision triangle
say it ain't so Sue
another one bites the dust....
no center for 2008 back to the pit
go Sue
to bad he did not resign before the graduation in May
then he would not have pushed so hard to take care of his buddies at the santa ana star
BACK TO THE PIT not to the star center
Yo Sue!
follow suit and get your keister outta here
go
git
go on
BACK TO THE PIT
Action Jackson has left the building Cleveland can leave too
NO to the center of santa ana
2007 graduates and families were blatantly wronged. The mayor helped out in this and backed his cronies. Someone wrote somebody owed somebody to pull this scam off and they were on the money. Get it? On the money!
stop the madness go back to the PIT
I don't want the star center for 2008!
something stinks in the city of vengeance or vision
The RRPS and the Mayor smell to high heaven
"....LADY MADONNA....SEE HOW THEY RUN..."
Let my people GO back to the Pit
NOW
Si, to the University Arena in Bull Que not the Santa Ana Star
Play again Sam but at THE PIT
Lets have a GREAT 2008
2008 RULES!!
will the PIT be avail. this year?
all is well that ends well you tried the center not lets get back to the pit
back
back
to
the
pit
Please read between the lines,
your Mayor wanted you at the casino. you all were part and parcel to this whole debacle
you ALL were and are in cahoots
great site!!
THE DECISION TO MOVE THE GRADUATION HAS A FOUL ODOR TO IT. FORMER MAYOR JACKSON AND DR. SUE CLEVELAND WERE BOTH INVOLVED IN A BAD MOVE...
they who smelt it dealt it
OK, we did the center and cheated thousands that would have went to the Arena The Pit. Now lets get back to business, the mayor is gone and hopefully the Sup understands what she did wrong. Also, the CLASS of 2007 and family were a CLASS ACT, everyone mostly behaved.
ok said...
OK, we did the center and cheated thousands that would have went to the Arena The Pit. Now lets get back to business, the mayor is gone and hopefully the Sup understands what she did wrong. Also, the CLASS of 2007 and family were a CLASS ACT, everyone mostly behaved.
What we have here is a failure to really see what a huge mistake this was to change the location. Until those that are calling the shots see that nothing will change. The bigger problem is they will not see it anytime soon.
http://www.abqjournal.com/venue/591122venue09-02-07.htm
Anonymous said...
Kool!
March 16, 2007 1:27 PM
Anonymous said...
Do Rio Rancho Parents have no rights!!!!!!!?????????
Is their anyone else out there that wants to invite their extended relatives to their son or daughters graduation? Please, who has only 6 relatives to invite, unless you only have one kid, no aunts?
Uncles, cousins and only one set of grandparents then yes you are fine. But what about the graduates that have 2 sets of grandparents, 12 brothers and sisters and their wives or husbands, their kids and their other aunts and uncles on the other side. We have always supported our nieces, nephews, cousins, grandchildren and want to when she/he graduates and accepts her/his diploma. Why should we not be allowed to go see them graduate and feel their excitement that they are finally finished with one chapter in their life.
March 16, 2007 2:21 PM
Anonymous said...
Yeahh to the RR BLOG!!!
March 16, 2007 2:42 PM
ET said...
Who had the right to change the graduation ceremony from The Pit to the Santa Ana Star Center without everyone’s input?!
Doesn't the graduating class of 2007 have a say in where they want to celebrate this great achievement that they have worked so hard for, 13 long years, and this is how they are treated as if they do not matter?!!
Where is our governor, our mayor, our leaders of this community that are supposed to help and support our young citizens? Don’t they matter?
They are the VISION of Rio Rancho and by what you do for them in this situation will impact them. Please show them they matter by speaking up and changing the ceremony “back to The Pit”. If you need be go to the school and ask them what they want, contact all of the families then that would be fair.
I know that many are VERY STRESSED about this situation and how they will decide who can or can't go see them receive their diploma. What a shame that it had to come to this with everything else they have to be concerned about along with their finals.
I know this isn’t the first email you have received asking for this change and it won’t be the last! Please think how you would feel if it were your son, daughter, niece, nephew, grandson or granddaughter? Would you be doing more if it was????
March 16, 2007 4:20 PM
2007 SENIOR said...
http://rioranchogradsunite.blogspot.com/
!!!!!!!!!!!!!ATTENTION SENIORS!!!!!!!!!!!!
· PLEASE CONTACT http://rioranchogradsunite.blogspot.com/ or email: cmj2nc@aol.com TODAY!
· CALL RRPS DISTRICT TODAY IF YOU OR YOUR PARENTS ARE CONCERNED ABOUT GRADUATION BEING CHANGED TO THE SANTA ANA STAR CENTER (896-0667 SUPERINTENDENT & SCHOOL BOARD).
· TELL THEM YOU WANT IT AT “THE PIT”
· MAKE SURE YOUR PARENTS KNOW YOUR GRADUATION ANNOUNCEMENTS WILL STILL SAY “THE PIT” ON THE ANNOUNCEMENT BUT THERE WILL BE AN INSERT STATING THE CHANGE (HOW TACKY) YOU CAN STILL GET A REFUND.
· REMEMBER THERE IS ONLY ONE LANE ENTERING AND ONE LANE LEAVING THE CENTER IMAGINE THE MESS FOR BOTH STUDENTS AND PARENTS HAVING TO DRIVE THERE.
· WE SHOULD HAVE A SAY IN WHERE WE WANT TO GRADUATE; REMEMBER SENIORS IN THE WORDS OF OUR PRINCIPAL “THE CHOICE IS YOURS!!!!!!!!!!”
March 16, 2007 4:32 PM
MEDIA said...
EMAIL THEM:
schoolboard@rrdo.rrps.k12.nm.us, nmiqgovima@state.nm.us, robert.sjostrand@jostens.com, theobserver@rrobserver.com, news@rrobserver.com, wduncan@rrhs.rrps.k12.nm.us, dnsimmons@rrhs.rrps.k12.nm.us, district@rrdo.rrps.k12.nm.us, opinion@abqjournal.com, kvesely@rrdo.rrps.k12.nm.us, target7@thenewmexicochannel.com, news@kobtv.com, sandrade@hearst.com, dick.knipfing@krqe.com, erika.ruiz@krqe.com, krqesoundoff@krqe.com, cizaguirre@hearst.com, mmaez@hearst.com, mgarofalo@hearst.com, jjojola@kobtv.com, administration@ci.rio-rancho.nm.us, cmj2nc@aol.com, mayor@ci.rio-rancho.nm.us, PStephenson@rrhs.rrps.k12.nm.us, mhartranft@abqjournal.com, romero@rrhs.rrps.k12.nm.us, asweet@rrhs.rrps.k12.nm.us, parentconnect@rrdo.rrps.k12.nm.us, Arteche@rrhs.rrps.k12.nm.us, DKelly@rrhs.rrps.k12.nm.us, pivy@rrhs.rrps.k12.nm.us, plopez@rrhs.rrps.k12.nm.us, aeveleth@rrhs.rrps.k12.nm.us, Dobson@rrhs.rrps.k12.nm.us, Moreno@rrhs.rrps.k12.nm.us, rgalindo@rrhs.rrps.k12.nm.us, Simmons@rrhs.rrps.k12.nm.us, barbour@rrhs.rrps.k12.nm.us, yvalencia@rrhs.rrps.k12.nm.us, Romero@rrhs.rrps.k12.nm.us, webmaster@rrdo.rrps.k12.nm.us, vonancken@rrhs.rrps.k12.nm.us, service@Jostens.com, rmartinez@abqjournal.com, sspalding@kobtv.com, rdereyes@kobtv.com, van.tate@krqe.com, SStucker@kobtv.com, JLucas@kobtv.com, mike.powers@krqe.com, Roland.Glembine@krqe.com, annie.mccormick@krqe.com, jen.jackson@krqe.com, bill.diven@krqe.com, cornelas@kobtv.com, cmahoney@kobtv.com, adarveaux@kobtv.com, jmaher@kobtv.com, gschwartz@kobtv.com, aantonio@kobtv.com, ekahnert@kobtv.com, nbrady@kobtv.com, jvigil@kobtv.com, caragon@kobtv.com, tjoles@kobtv.com, KOBWebmaster@kobtv.com, edreher@rrdo.rrps.k12.nm.us, kkobam@citcomm.com, Talkradiojim@aol.com, ebriseno@abqjournal.com, barmijo@abqjournal.com, editor@abqtrib.com
March 16, 2007 4:37 PM
Max & Joan said...
Max and Joan agree 100%
OUR PURPOSE
Whatever the merits of moving the Rio Rancho High School graduation ceremony to the Santa Ana Star Center in Rio Rancho, the decision should have been made before rather than after families had begun planning. Extended family members have already made travel plans and requested vacation times in anticipation of attending the ceremony for which they may not now get tickets. It is apparent there was not enough public deliberation about this issue. A decision affecting the entire school population should have been discussed publicly so that all voices were heard prior to the decision, particularly since the number of seats available to family and friends of the graduates has been reduced by more than two thirds. Please join us in moving the graduation ceremony back to The Pit. Sign the Petition by adding a comment to the open thread.
March 16, 2007 4:48 PM
West Mesa ALL-STAR said...
Subject: What's wrong with you!!!!!
I am in disgust of your decision to change the Rio Rancho’s graduation ceremony from the pit to Santa Ana Casino! My niece is graduating from Rio Rancho this year and because of you and your “too good to drive more than 18 miles” parents I won’t be able to watch her receive her diploma! I know this isn’t the first email you have received asking for this change and it won’t be the last! I urge you to reconsider this decision!!!!
March 16, 2007 4:53 PM
PHX 4 said...
RIO RANCHO GRADUATION SITE
Please relocate the graduation ceremony to The PIT as our family will not have enough tickets for all of us to witness our nieces graduation.
Thank you
March 16, 2007 4:58 PM
OBSERVER news: said...
RANTS & RAVES:
"What gives the school board the right to have my daughter graduate from the Santa Ana Star Casino Center without even asking me? In my day, each of the high schools graduated on their own football field, what the hell's wrong with that? I don't want my kid going to the Santa Ana Star Casino Center. C'mon, Sue Cleveland, do things properly, ask the parents, or we can vote you out."
March 16, 2007 5:07 PM
BACK TO THE PIT NOW!: said...
Rio Rancho Observer - Rants and Raves:
"Oh, Rio Rancho school board, what a huge mistake you have made concerning this year's graduation. Did you think to ask the parents of graduates, and the community, where graduation should be? What about the relatives who have already bought expensive airline tickets to attend our son's graduation and will not be able to attend because our family will not be able to get the tickets we need. Maybe they can stay at our house while we attend the ceremonies. We don't care about it being cheaper to rent the Santa Ana Star Center, the convenience; our son wants his family there, that's what is important. What kind of kickback is the school board getting for holding graduation there? Thanks for the big notice on the change; if we had known earlier, we could have let our family know so they could have saved their money and told them not to buy a plane ticket so they could sit on our couch."
March 16, 2007 5:09 PM
Praying.....we go back to the pit!; said...
RE: Rio Rancho High School Graduation 2007:
"1. To the Attention of Superintendent, Dr. Sue Cleveland and the School Board, we have been informed through the news media that Mr. VonAncken your high school Principal has only received 10 emails? Well get ready to receive a whole lot more and add this to the collection of concerned parents. We are looking forward to seeing the three of you on Monday. We have been informed by Mr. VonAncken that all of the concerns of families affected here were taken into consideration? If true then this is very alarming. This is a much bigger deal then your poor decision concerning Good Friday, please change your mind concerning using the Pit. The information copied here in this document has not been addressed, both Mr. VonAncken and Mr. Duncan's responses skirt only certain concerns listed here by our good friends that took the time out of their important day to share this with us. Mr. VonAncken and Mr. Duncan are puppets in this, both of their responses confirm they copied off the same sheet of paper. I am waiting for Dr. Cleveland and each member of the School Board to respond to a tax paying, voter, active in all school events supporting, parent. Dr. Sue Cleveland and the School Board please respond to me and all of our/my concerns added here. Dr. Sue Cleveland I have always liked you but you are so very wrong on this one. This poor decision will follow you the rest of your legacy and I am praying you see this. You can't do what you are doing here with important concerns that out weigh your well-intended plan. Just stop and take good look at all the people affected here. Please Sue before we are way past the point of no return and we’re close. The center will understand your decision to change your mind here. Tear up this contract you state you agreed to. Sue Cleveland here is a golden opportunity for many thousands of people to applaud you and you really need to consider the opposite of that. It is not too late yet, call the business putting the inserts in and making tickets, he is gonna get hit with a lot of refunds, mine for sure. Tickets Sue? Next year or when ever they open your named school then you can have those tickets made. Call the center and call the Pit please you are going to get a standing ovation for this trust us on this one. Take several steps back and then really carefully read all of these points here - I want you to know I have shared this - all of this with many other professionals in various professions - they are like a reality show observer and very interested in knowing how this will play out. They see the big problems with your current last minute decision in this matter along with your reasoning - they see the many thousands of persons affected by you and they also see the buck stops with you. They too conclude the ramifications will be extremely long term, the printed graduation announcements themselves bear written witness to this bad decision as both locations are listed on each announcement, (no one is going to like that little point of interest). Dr. Sue Cleveland we are counting on you to pull up - please!
Mr. VonAncken and Mr. Duncan all I need from you is to make sure Dr. Cleveland and the entire School Board gets this lengthy document- all of this – and know it is updated constantly, thanks.
I will look forward to your response Dr. Cleveland along with the School Board’s.
Thank you of your time
and thank you Junior for your compilation of information about this major problem.
signed, Praying
Post Script:
I suggest you carefully reread all of this information here, because I added to it myself it continues to grow - it is like a moving growing blog against your decision."
March 16, 2007 5:12 PM
quoting - go rams! said...
"RIO RANCHO BASKETBALL TEAM YOU JUST ROCKED THE “PIT”,
YOU JUST WON YOUR FIRST STATE CHAMPIONSHIP;
MR. VONDUNCAN ENCOURAGED YOU AND ALL STUDENTS
TO “SHOW THEM WE OWN THE ‘PIT’!!
….AND YOU DID!!
WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO NOW?
“WE’RE GOING TO DISNEY LAN….WAIT….NO…..
WE WANT TO GO BACK TO THE “PIT” FOR OUR GRADUATION, WE OWN IT NOW!!
DID YOU SEE HOW MANY FANS WE HAD THERE?! IT WAS GREAT-GO RAMS!!!"
March 16, 2007 5:49 PM
lizard said...
The Rio Rancho High School Principal left parents out of a significant decision. Parents were told the graduation would be held at the PIT which holds up to 17,000 people. The STAR Center, at most, might hold 7500. This year, RRHS has one of the largest graduating classes in recent history. Plans should have been discussed with the people it most affects. Last year the PIT was packed with families and the graduating class was not as large. Let's rethink this now!
March 16, 2007 7:21 PM
To Lizard: said...
Hello Lizard,
Thank you for joining in.
Exactly 4,500 tickets were printed so the Rio Rancho venue is going to be tight! Because 750 Seniors times 6 tickets equals 4,500!
You are right "The PIT" will hold 18,000+ and for the Graduation it is blocked off to hold 15,000 to 16,000.
You are right on target about this significant decision and the fact RRHS does have largest graduating class in NM and in their school's history.
This decision is affecting 10,000+ people especially the Seniors and their Loved Ones!
You are right, "Let's rethink this now!"
Please pass on the blog space:
http://rioranchogradsunite.blogspot.com/
and this email address:
cmj2nc@aol.com
we need to get out this message to everyone, thanks again
Sincerely,
Sam Cooke can sing
March 16, 2007 7:45 PM
Awesome Blog said...
Awesome BLOG.
I agree, we need Gov. Richardson to negotiate this matter “BACK TO THE PIT”
Where are you Bill?
Where is Marty, visiting Bill Clinton,
Marty Chavez we need you now!
Action Jackson, Mayor of Rio Rancho, where are you?
Susie Cleveland lets go “BACK TO THE PIT”
Where have all our leaders gone?
March 16, 2007 8:03 PM
Ed's Mom said...
Oh my gosh I just got this blog info from my best friends daughter, she is graduating with my son Ed!
Our hats off to you guys that got this going, we are all for going back to the PIT!
Ed’s Mom
March 16, 2007 8:15 PM
Rio Rancho said...
Rio Rancho High School, we agree and support your return the UNM PIT,
Frank and Betty
March 16, 2007 8:21 PM
take it back to the pit said...
when you all open the other high school then you can have your graduation in rio rancho because until then RRHS will continue to have the most seniors graduating year in and year out who is keeping count? if i know that how is it the ones responsible for this somehow forgot that? that is why a new school is needed right? we fully support the have the graduation at the pit.
March 16, 2007 8:30 PM
Constitution said...
We the people of the United States, in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.
A blogger commented how this whole graduation change stepped on peoples rights.
The entire history of our government was to escape bad government, bad and unfair decisions, bad practices, bad leaders.
What really bothers me is our children are involved.
The event is an important chapter in their lives.
They are seeing first hand another history lesson.
Democracy did not play a part in this poorly planned change and that is why I am joining in on this push to address the graduation.
Even if this situation affected two people it is wrong.
After reading the newspaper and reading several emails this is affecting thousands.
I completely see why it was changed and there are those that support the change.
But when you consider how this was handled then you scratch your head and wonder how well paid, educated people forgot the opening lines of THEIR Constitution, they forgot their history and at the expense of our children.
What also stands out and causes me to cringe is the very same people have charge over our children.
They will read these words and not understand what they did and what they are doing is wrong.
These same individuals will look in the mirror and say "I'm ok".
Our children are our most precious part of our community and should not be taken for granted at any expense.
The contract is now the excuse they are so diligently clinging to and hiding behind in order to right their wrongs.
The Star Center should also know their history and let the school out of this contract.
It should have never been about the money it should have always been about the children, our children.
March 16, 2007 9:19 PM
Joey T said...
JOEY T said...
BACK TO THE PIT, COUNT OUR FAMILY IN......
March 16, 2007 4:22 PM
March 16, 2007 9:29 PM
Extended family of 11 in support of said...
“BACK TO THE PIT
FAMILY AND FRIENDS OF RIO RANCHO HIGH SCHOOL GRADUATES DISCUSSION GROUP”
After reading your blogs, newspaper stories, and the koat newscast we are behind you.
Dr. Cleveland we want this graduation at THE PIT, thank you.
Extended family of 11 in support of
J and J
March 17, 2007 7:18 AM
Anonymous said...
My daughter wants all of her family at her graduation. Mom, dad, sisters, brother, aunts, uncles, grandparents and cousins. That comes to 16! Don't make her choose who gets to go and who gets to stay home. We all want to celebrate with her. BACK TO THE PIT! Graduates and parents should have had a choice, it's our graduation, not the administrations!
March 17, 2007 7:42 AM
grapevine0691 he said she said...
The University Arena
"The Arena"
"The PIT"
Sports Illustrated's Top-20 Sports Venues of the Century:
In June, 1999, Sports Illustrated listed its top-20 sporting venues of the century and The Pit checked in at No. 13.
“Sports Illustrated in 1999 named The Pit one of the Top 20 sporting venues of the 20th century — a list that includes Yankee Stadium, Wrigley Field, Pebble Beach and Daytona International.
Yeah, that’s big-time company. That’s like being compared to Babe Ruth, Joe Louis, Man O’ War, the Roman Empire, George Washington, Marlon Brando, Katharine Hepburn.
When you make an elite list like that maybe something special had to happen in The Pit above and beyond Lobos basketball.
And it did.”
There is beaucoup (bookoo) history and memories regarding "The PIT"! It is now 41 years young! I remember as a kid walking past from a distance as they prepared to build it. Gigantic hills were formed as they removed dirt.
“Famous hole has hosted superstars, special events… It’s probably the most famous hole in the ground since the Grand Canyon. It’s almost aged as well, too. Just look at some of the characters who have brought their acts to The Pit over the past 40 years: Michael Jordan, Mick Jagger, the Eagles, Jimmy Valvano, Dennis Rodman, Jethro Tull, Kareem Abdul Jabbar, Steve Nash, Elton John, James Taylor, Alonzo Mourning, Led Zeppelin, Christian Laettner, Luciano Pavarotti, George Strait, Patrick Ewing, John Wooden, Bobby Knight, Rick Pitino.” Stevie Wonder, Magic Johnson, Santana, Larry Nance, John Thompson, Bill Cosby and that’s the short list!
The name "The Arena" or "The PIT" were always popular titles when talking about the great concerts that took place there.
"The PIT" known for incredible Basketball, at the Professional, Collegiate and High School level. My Brother helped Coach a State Championship there!
And of course UNM and High School Graduations all at "The PIT"!
If you were fortunate to have had your graduation there either from High School or UNM or both there is a fondness about the place and you have to love the name, "The PIT"! Perhaps it was the event, but there is an undeniable "energy" there. Sure its a hole in the ground but if will always remain a location of celebration, accomplishment, music, history, success, defeat, incredible wins and gut wrenching losses, woulda, coulda, shoulda, lore, myth, legend, fact, fiction, blood, sweat and tears and forever simply, "The PIT".
I am sure there has been some very good stories written and told about the various events that have taken place there (see blow). Santana played there in the early 70's, the concert was ranked in the top 4 among all concerts that summer throughout the southwest.
Endless sports stories, concerts and graduations, I remember a graduation when the entire graduating class of Eldorado High School as well as families in the audience gave the principal a standing ovation this was in 2001 or 2002, that was impressive?
Last year they estimated over 11 million people have come to the Lobo games, that does not include ALL of the Graduations, concerts, etc.!
“Bill Cosby took on the Lobos 31 years ago and came out on top”
"What a terrific atmosphere for college basketball. Great building...great history...18,000 screaming fans. It's big time hoops, baby!" - Dick Vitale ESPN
“The Pit got its nickname because it is literally a pit dug out of Albuquerque’s Southeast Mesa. The roof was built first, then dirt was excavated to create a large hole. The arena floor is 37 feet below ground level. In 1966-67, season tickets for Lobos men’s basketball were $20 for bench seats and $30 for chairbacks. A single-game ticket was $2.50.
The opening season in The Pit featured 15 home games. The highest ranked Lobos team to play in The Pit was the Lobos men of 1966-67 who achieved a No. 3 ranking in January 1967.”
“One of college basketball's most famous and recognizable buildings, University Arena is the home of New Mexico men's and women's basketball.
The Pit is built in a 37-foot hole on Albuquerque's southeast mesa. First the roof was constructed, then the hole was dug and the Arena built. That all happened in 1966. The unique Behlen roof (338 by 300 feet) was set up by contractors and then 55,000 cubic yards of earth were removed. About 28,000 yards of concrete were poured in the initial construction, which allowed a seating capacity of 14,831. The cost - an incredibly economical $1.4 million.
Arena expansion was undertaken when it became apparent that fan interest was too great even for the original structure. The expansion in 1975 cost near $2.2 million and involved the extension of a cantilevered deck above the existing facility. There are six rows in the deck, with a seating capacity of 2,300. Reserved standing-room-only spots increase The Pit's capacity to 18,018.
The 2006-07 season will be the 41st year that University Arena has served as home for Lobo hoops. The first game was played Dec. 1, 1966, with New Mexico defeating Abilene Christian, 62-53. A total of 704 games have been played overall. The Lobos have come away the victor in 569 of those, good for a stunning .808 winning percentage.
What is even more impressive about UNM's home court is that over 11 million fans have flocked into this sunken edifice to see their beloved Lobos play basketball. The exact figure stands at 11,023,733. The Lobos have averaged an astounding 15,659 fans the past 40 years, an amazing 97% of capacity.
The Lobos have finished second in the nation in attendance five times, third on four occasions, and fourth six times.
2005-06 Attendance Numbers
The University of New Mexico is one of very few schools to have both its men's and women's basketball programs rank in the top-25 in attendance during the 2005-06 season. The Lobo women were fourth while the men finished No. 21. The UNM men and women have both finished in the top-25 in each of the past eight seasons.
The rankings:
Although the men's average of 13,387 is its lowest in 25 years, UNM has still finished in the top-25 for 40 consecutive years, or every season the Lobos have played in The Pit. No other school in the country can make that claim.
UNM hosted the NCAA Championship in 1983, won by North Carolina State over Houston, the 1968, '78, '92 and 2000 West Regional, the 1985 and 1996 West Region First and Second Rounds, and 1988 McDonald's High School All-American basketball game. The NCAA Men's First and Second Rounds were here in 2002 followed by the Women's First and Second Rounds and the Midwest Regional in 2003. UNM hosted the women's first and second rounds again in 2004, followed by the men's Albuquerque Regional in 2005 and the West Regional for the women's tournament in 2006. The Pit will again host NCAA women's tournament action in 2008 and 2009.
The UNM women's basketball team is also enjoying the home court advantage The Pit offers. Over the past nine seasons under current head coach Don Flanagan, The Pit has become one of the rowdiest places in all of women's college basketball. The women have compiled a home record of 159-32 (.832) over the last 11 years. The women's team has also been in the top-10, nationally, in average attendance in each of the last eight seasons. In 2006, the women's team averaged 10,355 fans per game, fourth in the NCAA, and posted a 16-2 record. On nine different occasions, the women's squad has sold out The Pit. Five times they have filled it to the 18,018 regular season capacity. Four times they sold out NCAA tournament games when the capacity was over 16,000. Each of these nine games has come since the 1999 season.”
Rio Rancho, “Go BIG or stay HOME”! “The PIT” is the Biggest venue in the state!
Ironically, I already wrote my Brother is the Uncle of this years Graduate from Rio Rancho, who helped Coach a State Championship at "The PIT", he also graduated at "The PIT" and lives in Albuquerque but will not be able to attend this Graduation because we won't have enough tickets and this is my Brother's favorite Nephew!
I have read a lot of diplomatic emails, I've read several comments back and forth when this all started here in March with good news coverage by KOAT and then very one-sided editors from the newspapers writing without the entire facts.
Read all of those emails sent to you and then please "PASS IT ON!
RIO RANCHO BASKETBALL TEAM YOU JUST ROCKED “THE PIT”,
YOU JUST WON YOUR FIRST STATE CHAMPIONSHIP;
MR. VONDUNCAN ENCOURAGED YOU AND ALL STUDENTS
TO “SHOW THEM WE OWN ‘THE PIT’!!
….AND YOU DID!!
WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO NOW?
“WE’RE GOING TO DISNEY LAN….WAIT….NO…..
WE WANT TO GO BACK TO “THE PIT” FOR OUR GRADUATION, WE OWN IT NOW!!
DID YOU SEE HOW MANY FANS WE HAD THERE?! IT WAS GREAT-GO RAMS!!!
http://epaper.abqjournal.com/Repository/ml.asp?Ref=VEUvMjAwNi8xMS8wOSNBcjAzMDAw&Mode=HTML&Locale=english-skin-custom
http://epaper.abqjournal.com/Repository/ml.asp?Ref=QVRMLzE5OTkvMTEvMTIjQXIwMzUwMA==&Mode=Html&Locale=english-skin-custom
http://epaper.abqjournal.com/Repository/ml.asp?Ref=VEUvMjAwNi8xMS8wOSNBcjAzMjAx&Mode=HTML&Locale=english-skin-custom
http://www.abqtrib.com/search/?q=%22the+pit+at+40%22&search_submit.x=0&search_submit.y=0
March 17, 2007 8:38 AM
i know u said...
DITTO!
TO ALL THE "BLOGS" HERE!
GREAT SITE!
THANK YOU red rabbit
March 17, 2007 8:51 AM
aunt mary said...
These bastards are discriminating against large families!
March 17, 2007 10:05 AM
Dan z. said...
I agree with Aunt Mary they are discriminating against large families and against the graduate that has more then six (6) people that would be honored to attend their graduation and were invited. I agree with this blog site take it back to the PIT!!
March 17, 2007 10:26 AM
Marcos said...
ATTENTION: SENIORS, PARENTS, GUARDIANS, FAMILIES, RELATIVES, STUDENTS AND CONCERNED PERSONS
Please visit the web log, copy and paste this into your browser
http://rioranchogradsunite.blogspot.com/
You can also email: cmj2nc@aol.com if you have any problems posting comments on the blog, thank you.
We are a group of families that would like to have the Class of 2007 Graduation returned to "The PIT."
At minimum, let’s put this matter to a fair vote.
We are respectfully asking Dr. Sue Cleveland to make the decision to return to "The PIT."
RRPS has broken contracts before and can break this contract now and go "BACK TO THE PIT."
We need all persons that want the Graduation to be returned to "The PIT" to let your voice be heard.
In an unprecedented administrative decision, input was NOT allowed to be given by everyone affected. Only certain voices were heard.
This last minute decision affected more than 10,000 people.
We have heard all the reasons given by the administration and strongly feel they do not outweigh the fact that a fair process did not occur in the first place concerning this matter.
Please go online now. We have every right to be heard. "It’s not over till it’s over."
BACK TO THE PIT
FAMILY AND FRIENDS OF RIO RANCHO HIGH SCHOOL GRADUATES DISCUSSION GROUP
Please visit the web log, copy and paste this into your browser
http://rioranchogradsunite.blogspot.com/
You can also email: cmj2nc@aol.com if you have any problems posting comments on the blog, thank you.
March 17, 2007 10:49 AM
"It’s not over till it’s over" said...
Mike and Julie agree:
ATTENTION: SENIORS, PARENTS, GUARDIANS, FAMILIES, RELATIVES, STUDENTS AND CONCERNED PERSONS
Please visit the web log, copy and paste this into your browser
http://rioranchogradsunite.blogspot.com/
You can also email: cmj2nc@aol.com if you have any problems posting comments on the blog, thank you.
We are a group of families that would like to have the Class of 2007 Graduation returned to "The PIT."
At minimum, let’s put this matter to a fair vote.
We are respectfully asking Dr. Sue Cleveland to make the decision to return to "The PIT."
RRPS has broken contracts before and can break this contract now and go "BACK TO THE PIT."
We need all persons that want the Graduation to be returned to "The PIT" to let your voice be heard.
In an unprecedented administrative decision, input was NOT allowed to be given by everyone affected. Only certain voices were heard.
This last minute decision affected more than 10,000 people.
We have heard all the reasons given by the administration and strongly feel they do not outweigh the fact that a fair process did not occur in the first place concerning this matter.
Please go online now. We have every right to be heard. "It’s not over till it’s over."
BACK TO THE PIT
FAMILY AND FRIENDS OF RIO RANCHO HIGH SCHOOL GRADUATES DISCUSSION GROUP
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http://rioranchogradsunite.blogspot.com/
You can also email: cmj2nc@aol.com if you have any problems posting comments on the blog, thank you.
March 17, 2007 10:54 AM
"It’s not over till it’s over" said...
Arnold and Lee agree to BACK TO THE PIT
March 17, 2007 10:57 AM
Chuck and JoAnn said...
please take the time to read all this input and return this graduation to the pit, thank you.
March 17, 2007 11:00 AM
uncle glen said...
Who is going to pay for my families airline tickets? I cannot get a refund now. This has to go back to the pit!
March 17, 2007 11:04 AM
hope we are not too late said...
“BACK TO THE PIT
FAMILY AND FRIENDS OF RIO RANCHO HIGH SCHOOL GRADUATES DISCUSSION GROUP”
After reading your blogs, newspaper stories, and the koat newscast we are behind you.
Dr. Cleveland we want this graduation at THE PIT, thank you.
March 17, 2007 11:06 AM
this is cool said...
“BACK TO THE PIT
FAMILY AND FRIENDS OF RIO RANCHO HIGH SCHOOL GRADUATES DISCUSSION GROUP”
After reading your blogs, newspaper stories, and the koat newscast we are behind you.
Dr. Cleveland we want this graduation at THE PIT, thank you.
THANK YOU FOR SETTING THIS UP I HOPE IT DID NOT COST YOU TO MUCH?
March 17, 2007 11:08 AM
Driving to; Parking; Leaving; Driving home! said...
THINK ABOUT THIS!!!
Everyone here has a good point but really, really think about this:
Driving to; Parking; Leaving; Driving home!
How much traffic comes in and out of the pit when you are at an event?
But at least there you have 4 different ways to get in and out and a new 4 lane freeway out, so the time to get home if you live in Rio Rancho or on the west side is maybe a half an hour or so, not bad.
At the Santa Ana, with 700 to 750 students, which at least three fourths and more will be driving themselves, since they have to be there 2 hours early. Or their parents will be driving them. Plus school staff and Santa Ana staff that have to get there to prepare. Then all the families will be driving and the other fortunate ones that get to go, so total you are looking at a lot of automobiles driving there all at once. You will have to drive through Rio Rancho to get to a 2 lane road, with ONLY a 1 lane entrance, now that is dangerous! Could and accident occur? Yes! That will not cut down on driving time it will take you longer.
What about the parking?
That too, is going to be a major mess, and will not properly accommodate all of those vehicles. That will also add to the delay before the graduation even starts.
Now when it is time to go home you are looking at all those people and cars trying to get out of an area that has ONLY 1 way out and back to a 2 lane road! Here you are looking at a long wait if you are lucky and with no accidents. If there is an accident it is really going to be a major mess because then everyone heading in that direction will have to wait, do you get the picture?
I’d rather be coming out of the pit with more ways out to help us if something goes wrong, where if God forbid someone gets in an accident, at least you can find a way to turn around or find another road to turn on to.
What if someone gets in an accident coming from or going to the Santa Ana, where are our choices to get out of traffic? WAIT, there are NONE because there is ONLY 1 way in and 1 way out and it is a 2 lane road with NO turn around area anywhere except when you are on 528 or Northern!!!
TO ALL OF THE OFFICALS WHO CHANGED THIS!!
Start praying no one gets hurt on their way there or the way home because then you will have legal problems to deal with! God forbid a loss of life occurs!
Nobody wants that?!
Better yet change the graduation Back to the Pit and avoid all this.
THINK ABOUT THAT!!!!!!!
March 17, 2007 11:57 AM
Julie said...
AMEN!!!!!
I agree with “Driving to; Parking; Leaving; Driving Home”
TO THE OFFICALS WHO CHANGED THIS,
Yes, just like they wrote, going to and from the Pit you have 4 different ways to get in and out and a newly constructed 4-lane freeway.
The Rio Rancho location only has 1 way in and 1 way out with no way to turn around.
If a member of my family gets hurt I will be holding you accountable to the fullest.
Yeah…….THINK ABOUT THAT!!
Julie
cc: Attorney
March 17, 2007 12:07 PM
tear up the contract said...
Yes, tear up the contract!
“BACK TO THE PIT
FAMILY AND FRIENDS OF RIO RANCHO HIGH SCHOOL GRADUATES DISCUSSION GROUP”
After reading your blogs, newspaper stories, and the KOAT newscast we are behind you and support returning to The Pit.
Dr. Cleveland we want this graduation at THE PIT, thank you.
March 17, 2007 12:11 PM
Nancy and Greg said...
“BACK TO THE PIT”
March 17, 2007 12:13 PM
Brad back to the Pit has said...
I'm on my lunch break, this blog deal is really great. My mom said to check out the weblog because everyone is concerned. Thank you for being concerned enough to get involved. Seniors lets tell them we want to go back to the PIT.
Shout out to Becky!
March 17, 2007 12:19 PM
i said...
Take you back...
do do do do
take you back...
oh...
take you back...
do do do do
take you back
to the PIT!!!!
(song from the movie Rocky i added the last line)
March 17, 2007 12:26 PM
auntie m said...
auntie m said...
Okay, I finally saw the KOAT footage by Rod Green. It is very well done. It would not play on my mac, but it did on my pc. I'm surprised the school did not revisit their decision after this aired. It made them look really stupid.
Excellent newscast, copy this info here into your browser (there will be a short commercial first):
www.koat.com/video/11177714/index.html?taf=alb
or go to first page of this blog and look for "NEWS COVERAGE" and click on KOAT-TV it will take you to the newscast.
March 17, 2007 2:08 PM
Rio Rancho, “Go BIG or stay HOME”! said...
Rio Rancho, “Go BIG or stay HOME”! “The Pit” is the Biggest venue in the state!
This ain't over until the lady sings, we are just getting warmed up, believe it!
Rio Rancho, you have the largest Graduating Class in the entire State and School History what will you do now?
Well we are not going to Disneyland.....NO!!! We are going to have our graduation in Rio Rancho so our money WILL NOT be spent in Albuquerque (as stated by the administration) but NO wait the administration OK’d our announcements, cap & gown, class ring and pictures to be bought in Albuquerque?! Hey, at $100 a pop that is $75,000 or at $180 a pop that is $135,000 or at $200 a pop is $150,000, get the picture? Someone other then Rio Rancho is making out good! Do you realize after all is said and done over $500,000 is being spent in Albuquerque on the whole enchilada anyway?
Our Basketball Championship games leading to the finals were at “The Pit" where everyone that we know seemed to make it there with no complaints of the drive, and all done in Albuquerque. (Which was one of the complaints it was too far (17 miles) and dangerous to drive to the graduation but not for the games, and on several different days Rio Rancho drove there because we kept winning and WON IT ALL!?) We have numerous families in Rio Rancho that are season ticket holders to events at the “The Pit” and other events taking place in Albuquerque where the venue is over 18,000+ persons.
FYI: At “The Pit" you have at least 4 ways to enter from and leave North, South, East and West with at least 3 lanes and a newly constructed Freeway you can use going to or when leaving! Lets compare the venues, who knows how long it will take for us to get to and out of the Santa Ana with the whole 2 ways to get there on a 2 lane road with only 1 lane going in and only 1 lane going out, just exactly like a bottle neck, there are no U turns on this little journey. That sounds like fun to me, make sure the family members that received the “golden ticket” and that are allowed to go, all bring their DVD or CD players while driving to and then leaving to get back home that depending on where you live in Rio Rancho is 15 minutes away, each way, that is with no heavy traffic either. Yes this Graduation is going to take a lot longer then 15 minutes drive time each way both going and coming. Also, take a jaunt out there yourself time it from your driveway all the way to where you stop, where you actually park, it will take some of us longer, and speaking of parking, that is going to be a mess! Don’t forget ONLY 1 way in and 1 way out. Did they take into account people other then Rio Rancho and from Albuquerque or even other cities in the state as well as out of state will be coming to this Graduation? This is very important, not everyone going lives in Rio Rancho! You did not take that into consideration.
The decision lends itself with all of the limits placed on it to: no outsiders allowed! We decree by order of VonDuncan and the “many”, at the very last minute - in Rio Rancho, for Rio Rancho, by Rio Rancho, God forbid if you have more then 6 guests!! 2 Parents, 2 Siblings and only 1 set of Grandparents, that is 6, too bad for “Grammy” and “Grampa”, the other set of Grandparents! If you don’t fit into that cookie cutter template logic if you by chance have an extra family member, then you are out of luck, too bad so sad. And to hell with the Aunts and Uncles and Cousins! Draw straws, that is a great idea! Arm wrestle that’s better yet! And to all you folks that bought airline tickets in advance, …shucks. Or if you worked like hell, extra hours or O.T. to have these days off….oops. Oh and the “extra” tickets available, those will be few and far between because 4,500 divided by 750 is 6! But not everyone will need 6, true but based on previous year’s numbers for person’s attending and the fact this is the Largest Graduating Class ever, both mathematically and logically there will be “many” more Seniors that will need more then 6 tickets! We know because several of the Graduates have stated that “everyone” is asking for extra tickets. Think about it a 15,000-person venue down to a 4,500-person venue, WE NEED TICKETS!!
You say, in the past “we always got ‘The Pit’ on a bad day” well not this year, we have in on a Saturday at 4 PM.
And it is very sad to read in the newspaper, people actually condemning those that just happen to have a larger inner circle of more then 6! The attitude is like shame on you for wanting so many tickets, you know if one family needs 2 tickets tops or less, that’s cool, and if one family needs 20 tickets more or less, that’s cool too! But to condemn anyone that have more in their network is ignorance. Just think about the last high school graduation you went to that was not your own child then think about the one you went to that was not related. Now, after you have done that we only go to graduations that we want to go to because of our history with the graduate. We criticize and punish the person graduating because of too many contacts, how very sad. The persons complaining wrote it was “ridiculous”, that narrow-minded mentality is what is “ridiculous” not those that have a larger inner circle of people. More power to you if you know people that want to come witness your achievement! FYI: Our state has one of the highest dropout and suicide rates in the country, just ask Dr. Cleveland. So obtaining your High School diploma is outstanding!
But large sums of money were saved? So says the administration. Yes exactly $1,990.06 was saved! Great that means the 15,000 seats available at “The Pit” for $8K is a much better deal then the 4,500 seats at the hockey rink for $6K? Wait a minute we better ask someone Graduating who can add, if you do the math, each seat at the rink actually costs more then each seat at “The Pit”? Somehow by that logic if both seats are priced the same we should be only paying a total $2,385.00 for the use of the rink not $6,000.00! Again, that total ($2,385) is based on if both the seats at both venues cost the same.
Speaking of more savings, too bad the decision makers don't pay for the graduation accessories that we have to pay for, bought in Albuquerque not Rio Rancho. If you don’t know, Jostens who is handling the announcements was also affected by this last second poorly planned decision. It is too late for them to take out “The Pit” and the location!!! OOPPSS!! It is already etched in stone so to speak, in all of the announcements! (That is NOT going to look good) And because of the downsizing with this last minute decision we now have a surplus of incorrect announcements, much more then we needed in the first place! Now with all the extra announcements that we paid for, now we have to put a total of 2, yes Dos inserts in them, the administration's insert and now our own insert (how professional looking) because the original announcement will in fact still read the Graduation is at “The Pit", maybe with a thick black magic marker we could draw a large X thru that? But hopefully they will see the first insert, which will explain, no it's not at “The Pit" that portion is wrong it is at the “Santa Ana Star owned by the Casino Center hockey rink” here is a map to show you how to get to the 2 lane road after you have driven thru Rio Rancho, (the professionals spent a lot of time clarifying that little tid-bit of info-the name of the venue, even an editor chimed in) but hopefully we who paid for now too many announcements because of the terrible last minute change without everyone’s input are praying they somehow they will see the second insert stating you can't go we are just teasing you, we only have 6 tickets so we can be like “all the other districts” that can ONLY use their Gym, (although if these districts were 17 miles away would love to use “The” storied “Pit”) unlike us with the State’s largest Graduating Class and can use “The Pit”. HEY, No inserts needed if we stay at “The Pit”. Whether you choose one or two inserts to try to explain this debacle in your announcement it won’t look good and will be confusing. So to those lucky ones that won’t be able to go, just send your regards to your Sister or Brother, or Granddaughter or Grandson or favorite Relative that will be Graduating and we the limited family members that flipped a coin to get in, will tell you how it went!
According to the administration of course the most important part of all this graduation, is, it will be in Rio Rancho at the best facility they could get, so that our Graduates can limit the number of members of their families to see them Graduate after 12 years of working hard and they don't get to decide where they want it, the district did it for them, and with only 2 months to go, thank you so much for the early notice, you allowed us no real time to prepare. Even though we had plans that have to be completely changed! People that purchased airline tickets, took time off, etc. We have nothing else going on in our lives. To change venues with such short notice is affecting our Graduates along with thousands of people, and the administration is OK with that?!
Sadly, in the “words of wisdom” from Rio Rancho High School’s own principal’s mouth, where is says, “the choice is yours.” Clearly this is not true even though it has been stated everyday on the announcements he gives. Not ALL of the Seniors had a say a “choice” in this and it is THEIR DAY, right? Not ALL the parents/guardians had a say a “choice” in this and it is THEIR CHILD’S DAY, right? Only a certain few received this important privilege. Just think about that for a minute or 2, how unfair is that? The “Class Song” is “Dream On”, and that is exactly what VonDuncan and Cleveland has told the Class of 2007, “oh you would like your graduation to be returned to ‘The Pit’ Seniors”? “Well ‘Dream On’ Seniors”.
We heard the excuse, “we couldn’t get all the Seniors on the floor last year if we go the the hockey rink we can”. I’m not sure what has changed on the floor of “The Pit” but check and verify this fact, I know I was present in the early 70’s, Sandia High School graduated 2 classes with over 900+ students on the floor and one class which is the Largest Class ever in NM history, with over 1,000+ Seniors all on the floor. So you might want to see why or how that was. Basically, it can be done.
Because of issues with past Graduations but last years in particular, the Class of 2007 and those closest to them get to feel the brunt of the penalty that they are innocent of. What an interesting lesson in life, forget about the stress this ripple affect is causing right now, the decree has spoken. Forget about what is right or wrong or fair and unfair, the decree has spoken. Forget about the fact your announcement will be tacky and confusing and you have much more then you needed, the decree has spoken. Forget about the fact we disrupted your plans and peoples lives, the decree has spoken. Forget about the fact this is YOUR DAY, this is a Celebration, and ALL of your supporting cast does not have to be present, the decree has spoken. Forget about the fact we told you at the last minute, gave you no fair warning with input coming only from the privileged and the administration, sprinkled with a few politicians, the decree has spoken!
An editor and the administration all referred to the “many” that wanted this, what is the problem with putting this to a vote, right now? You will all find out the actual “many” want this event at “The Pit”. Our Seniors will have to revert back to their grade school days, you print up what 750 notes home with 2 boxes to check on the note - “The Pit” or no “Pit”, parents and guardians along with each Senior will vote. Unlike the decree that has been imposed upon everyone, where only a certain “many” voices were heard and acted on, simply, that decision that act in itself is so wrong and so very unfair, this is America right? (The school Board is supposed to uphold the Constitution of the United States, just ask them). Make sure you number each one of these notes that way they can be counted fairly. Add a few lines so the Graduate and their Parent/Guardian can print and sign. If you have a better idea, wonderful as long as the vote process is fair. If the vote comes back no “Pit”, then the editor, the administration and the so called “many” had a finger on the pulse and IF the vote comes back “The Pit” then Hallelujah! Times a wastin’!
At this point, no fair or reasonable explanation can out weigh ALL the reasons why the Graduation should be at “The Pit”. Go ahead and weigh each and every matter honestly and fairly, both sides, the “proof is in the pudding”, fact, the way this entire decision was imposed has been handled, is wrong and very unfair. If it were above board, we would not be writing this.
Sincere apologies if I offended anyone with my sarcasm, I’ve read several comments back and forth when this started here in March with some good news coverage and then very one sided editors chiming in, contradictions and so on, so like a magnet I am jumping in.
And like those before me read everything below and then please "PASS IT ON!
RIO RANCHO BASKETBALL TEAM YOU JUST ROCKED “THE PIT”,
YOU JUST WON YOUR FIRST STATE CHAMPIONSHIP;
MR. VONDUNCAN ENCOURAGED YOU AND ALL STUDENTS
TO “SHOW THEM WE OWN ‘THE PIT’!!
….AND YOU DID!!
WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO NOW?
“WE’RE GOING TO DISNEY LAN….WAIT….NO…..
WE WANT TO GO BACK TO “THE PIT” FOR OUR GRADUATION, WE OWN IT NOW!!
DID YOU SEE HOW MANY FANS WE HAD THERE?! IT WAS GREAT-GO RAMS!!!
March 17, 2007 9:40 PM
PASS IT ON! said...
Quoting a famous movie line - "We are mad as hell and we are not going to take it"!
We concur with the blog and count us in as a family against this negative decision imposed upon our children, PASS IT ON!:
Excellent newscast, copy this info here into your browser (there will be a short commercial first):
www.koat.com/video/11177714/index.html?taf=alb
March 17, 2007 9:46 PM
Please help! said...
2. Please help! We are asking you all please change the Graduation back to the “Pit”; the date is still open and available at this venue. For the “GREATER GOOD” GO BACK TO THE PIT! Hey even our Basketball Team and Fans had to go to Albuquerque for the entire tournament and Rocked the Pit”!
March 17, 2007 9:49 PM
# 3 said...
3. 2007 - Largest Graduating Class in the entire state and in our school’s history.
March 17, 2007 9:50 PM
# 4 said...
4. The venue change is simply too small, 14,000+ persons attending reduced down to 4,500. Mr. VonAncken said “4,500”.
March 17, 2007 9:51 PM
# 5 said...
5. With only 2 months to go we were just informed of this change, but up until March 2007 we have always been of the clear understanding that “The Pit” was the location, we were given no forewarning at all, this is absolutely too short of notice, plans, invitations, time off and out of state airline tickets had already been purchased. The timing to inform us is absolutely terrible; this completely throws off our plans along with several thousands of others.
March 17, 2007 9:57 PM
# 6 said...
6. The Class of 2007 and their Loved Ones are being punished and made the guinea pigs.
March 17, 2007 9:57 PM
# 7 said...
7. The actual average amount of persons attending per each Senior for prior Graduations was about 19, some would have more, some less but that is the average, within the last few years there was no official ticket (Dr. Cleveland said the Class of 1999 was at Johnson Gym). And within recent years Rio Rancho has always packed “The Pit”. But now there are tickets and it has been limited to exactly 6. Also there is a claim that 2 extra tickets will supposedly be given out to bring the total to 8 however this will still not remedy this poor plan. No amount will remedy this because 4,500 seats is around 10,000+ persons short that won’t be allowed to attend. Mathematically 6 times 750 equals 4,500 so not very many Graduates will be getting over 6 tickets.
March 17, 2007 10:04 PM
# 8 said...
8. Safety, yes, all of the other facts listed here speak for themselves. We have the Largest Graduating Class, EVER AND EACH GRADUATE HAS A SUPPORTING CAST THAT ABSOLUTELY DESERVES TO BE IN ATTENDANCE, ENOUGH SAID.
March 17, 2007 10:05 PM
# 9 said...
9. SERIOUSLY…SIMPLY, WHAT PRICE DO YOU PLACE ON A CELEBRATION OF LOVE AND LIFE?! THE COST THE SAVINGS THAT MRS. CLEVELAND AND MR. VONANCKEN ALLUDE TO ABSOLUTELY DO NOT OUT WEIGH WHAT WILL BE COMPLETELY LOST! YES, EVEN TO ATTEMPT TO PLACE A PRICE ON THIS ENTIRE PROCESS, CELEBRATION AND EVENT IS INAPPROPRIATE BECAUSE IT IS TRULY “PRICELESS”! TO ARGUE THIS IMPORTANT POINT IS IGNORANCE AND…..WELL….VERY WRONG.
March 17, 2007 10:07 PM
# 10 said...
10. AGAIN, EACH GRADUATE HAS A SUPPORTING CAST THAT ABSOLUTELY DESERVES TO BE IN ATTENDANCE!
March 17, 2007 10:08 PM
# 11 said...
11. If you take EVERYTHING into consideration, both sides of the coin, ALL of their points, and now their explanations and contradictions to not concede. This is a mess; we cannot even begin to explain how bad this truly is. The very Best thing they can do at this point is to take this celebration this Graduation back to “The Pit" and then they can regroup for next year, that way Graduates and Loved Ones can actually be allowed input for next year. It won’t be one sided like now and the powers that be would have a whole year to explain their logic.
March 17, 2007 10:08 PM
# 12 said...
12. Please consider this very important fact, if they put it to a vote now right now, the Graduation would go back to “The Pit" please really think about this, they are displacing over 10,000+ persons!
March 17, 2007 10:09 PM
# 13 said...
13. Please consider at this time is the very end of the year, the very end of their 13 years in school, and consider the stress this is placing on our Graduates and their Loved Ones?! Is anyone taking that into consideration? 2007 will be the year they truly remember when their own Family, Relatives and Loved Ones at the last minute were denied the opportunity to see them Graduate, even though this was planned before hand. We already had 2 Children Graduate at “The Pit”; we surely are not going to forget this Graduation. We are very upset right now!
March 17, 2007 10:11 PM
Lila said...
· A High School Graduation is a very important celebration! An accomplishment of what you have completed in your life. As "Pomp and Circumstance" begins to play a myriad of memories and emotions flood into your mind, you see this young woman or young man dressed in their Graduation attire, glimpses of Pre-school, their Kindergarten and First Grade Graduations seem like only yesterday! “Did 13 years really pass by, you ask yourself?” You and Everyone that joined you for this moment are so very proud. Some will have tears of joy, some will clap, whistle and holler, but without a doubt a feeling of happiness will dominate your senses. And those that were with you through the good times and even the difficult times will beam with honor! “She did it-He did it!” You will remark or think yourself! Please know this celebration includes a Graduate(s) and Everyone that helped make this happen, through influence, nurturing, encouragement and love. Again, this process involves Everyone, not a limited number due to a facility change at the last minute. Please know each process, each individual has their own unique story along with the supporting cast involved. You only Graduate from High School once in your life. Please carefully consider everything herein and understand your well-meaning intentions do NOT outweigh all of the reasons to allow this very important celebration to remain at “The Pit” and the several thousands affected.
March 18, 2007 7:35 AM
Mr. VonAncken should have said...
· In the High School announcements on 3/5/07, Mr. VonAncken stated the venue would not be changed back to “The Pit” and would remain at the center. On a very interesting note he always ends his daily announcements stating the “choice is yours”, on this day (3/5) as he stated this again, he actually chuckled, he literally chuckled as if though a “Freudian slip” in that he lied, because the reality is that the choice is NOT the Seniors and all Students it never was! It was his and Mrs. Cleveland’s all along.
March 18, 2007 7:39 AM
Jack said...
· On a very positive proactive note we are aware of 3 petitions that the Seniors themselves have started, but this is a difficult task with connecting with other students due to schedules and classes. We applaud these future leaders for “stepping up”. Mrs. Cleveland, the school board, Mr. VonAncken and company should take particular note.
March 18, 2007 7:44 AM
Rita said...
· In a KOAT newscast on television Mr. VonAncken contradicted himself, from what he advised the newspaper. He advised reporter Rod Green that he would leave it up to the student to secure any extra tickets beyond the allotted 6!!! That is going to be interesting! Now it us up to the student!!!! Surely, each student graduating have many other important tasks to take care of with only two months left in the school year? This is what he told Rod Green! Consider how unfair this process is to secure extra tickets? This confirms how poorly planned the “let’s just wing it” now thinking is in full affect! Please share this with others KOAT-TV newscast with reporter Rod Green, (hats off great news report) check this out, copy this info here into your browser there is a short commercial so please be patient: www.koat.com/video/11177714/index.html?taf=alb
March 18, 2007 7:55 AM
Philip C. said...
· Herein, confirms that the person or persons involved in making this last minute decision/change did not take into full account all of this information! If this was not a last minute decision, then why did it take until March 2007 to spring it on us? Was there a vote? Was balanced input solicited? Who, What, When, Where, Why and How did this come about? Please be respectfully advised that we are not in the minority here, we are in the majority here and absolutely not at all happy with this last minute change! Lets put it to a vote now.
March 18, 2007 7:59 AM
the casino said...
· The casino . . . seriously, the casino, please tell me it is not true that the power or powers that be, decided to have a important event for young Women and Men Graduating, also where babies, young children and Loved Ones will come to this important event at the casino??!! NOTE: per Barbara Armijo at the Journal/Tribune newspaper, it will be held at the “CENTER”, the casino owns the center – hockey rink. OK! So…it is officially the Santa Ana Star owned by the casino/center hockey rink, yes? But another note: Quoting Jake Rigdon with the Journal in his recent piece, YES he referred to this location as "The Star Casino", this was on the front page, oops he must notta' got the memo?!!
March 18, 2007 8:22 AM
13 years at RRPS said...
· At the beginning of the year at the Senior Assembly when the Seniors were being told about ordering their cap and gowns and graduation announcements both Mr. Duncan, the activities director and Mr. VonAncken said that the class of 2007 would most likely be the biggest graduating class in New Mexico and in the history of Rio Rancho and that there are Seniors that have been going to RRPS their whole lives and they would like to do something special about that this year. It was absolutely clear the venue would be “The Pit” and their would be no limit on people attending. Therefore, plans, ordering announcements, buying airline tickets, scheduling time off were ALL done prior to this change! They were well aware of this! This also means they were well aware that just by the very size of the class graduating would indicate the strong likelihood that potentially more persons would be in attendance then all of the previous graduations!
March 18, 2007 8:32 AM
RRPS agenda book said...
· Regarding your decision to change this year’s Graduation to the owned by the Casino/Center hockey rink. The Rio Rancho High School Agenda Book clearly states the Graduation will be at “The Pit”. And with that original information this is what we all used to plan out this important event in our Child’s life. Your Website also confirms it will be at “The Pit”.
March 18, 2007 8:35 AM
full refund said...
· Our Graduate’s Graduation announcements and keep in mind as well as numerous other families’ announcements were ordered with the understanding the Graduation would be at “The Pit”. Had we known the location would be changed this would have influenced our purchase of these announcements and the amount needed.
· Why would we have wasted money on announcements that are inviting many people to an event they can’t go to? Most of the tickets are going only to immediate family. People with large families and a large network are penalized. Not so at “The Pit” venue.
· “The announcements do say The Pit, however, there is an insert being done for the new location with a map”. This is the exact quote by Jostens, the business doing our announcements; we have requested that they provide us with a full refund, as we will cancel this order. We are encouraging others to do likewise.
March 18, 2007 8:43 AM
blog blog blog blog blog said...
oh man, I really like your blogspot. we support everyone rising to this task, blog on and “seize the time” go back to the PIT Rio Rancho, NM!
Roy S.
March 18, 2007 8:51 AM
Largest Graduating Class said...
· The Largest Graduating Class in Rio Rancho history and the largest Class in the state. To place the largest Class in a smaller venue is not a well thought out plan at this late notice no matter what the logic.
March 18, 2007 9:04 AM
what now said...
· Family, Loved Ones, Friends have already booked flights and taken time off because it was our understanding prior to March 07 that this event was going to be at “The Pit”. Please know that these are flights that cannot be refunded. What now?
March 18, 2007 9:08 AM
6 tickets said...
· 6-ticket limit. One Graduate, has 4 Grandparents, 2 Parents, that equals 6 tickets, but what about divorced families that would now have 6 Grandparents and 4 Parents, that equals 8? That does not even include Sisters, Brothers, Aunts, Uncles, Nieces, Nephews, Cousins, Loved Ones, Neighbors, past Teachers, Employers and Friends!
March 18, 2007 9:08 AM
don't punish us said...
· Last year’s Graduation easily had over 14,000 people in attendance, there is no way a facility that holds 6000 people but then adjusted down to 4,500 seats for the graduation would be able handle this size event. You are now cutting it down by more then two thirds! Again, this is punishing this year’s Seniors and Loved Ones.
March 18, 2007 9:09 AM
007 said...
· We heard last year’s Graduation had a rowdy crowd and security was an issue? Please do not penalize the class of 2007 that cannot be blamed for last year.
March 18, 2007 9:10 AM
security said...
· We heard even if they have it at “The Pit” they would still limit the tickets to 6 due to security! How much is the cost of additional security? Again the Class of 2007 should not be penalized! Please remember that this is a celebration.
March 18, 2007 9:12 AM
Joe G said...
· We ourselves witnessed 3 Graduations at “The Pit” last year because of our Nephews Graduating, “The Pit” more then handled the flow of people coming to celebrate. These very same Graduations would not have fit in a 4,500-seat facility. And we would have not been able to be present for each of our nephew’s Graduations if it was limited to 6. We filmed each of these events for our Sister and Brothers and our Nephews, a gift that they will always cherish.
March 18, 2007 9:19 AM
Joy said...
· We the Parents and Graduates should have been advised about this change in August 2006 not this late, not barely now in March 2007, that is terrible planning! Who voted? Who decided? Input should have been requested by everyone not to a few that voiced their concerns. Or the “many” as is being explained now, there are “many” more that want this at “The Pit”. Input should have been asked of Everyone! How could this have been overlooked? Lets vote now!
March 18, 2007 9:22 AM
cesar's way said...
As a senior at Rio Rancho, I would like to have the graduation moved back to University Arena. I have a large family – some of which are flying overseas to attend – that have bought tickets and now cannot attend. If funds are an issue, why can’t the school have a fundraiser?
Cesar
March 18, 2007 12:15 PM
scorpsrule19 said...
I’ve been to the Santa Ana Star Center several times as a hockey fan, and I’m curious as to how traffic is going to be handled at graduation. The Scorpions get about 2,000-2,8000 fans a game, and there are two traffic cops at every game handling a very congested parking lot. How in the world can the poorly designed parking lot handle well over 5,000 people? ScorpsRule19
March 18, 2007 12:16 PM
mark said...
I don’t ever recall a school board meeting regarding the original decision to move the location of graduation. It’s very difficult to believe that a majority of parents, some of who aren’t yet aware of the venue change or the ticket limit, made this decision.
Mark
March 18, 2007 12:17 PM
Very Discouraged said...
Most graduates take pride in completing high school, and would like to enjoy this seminal moment with friends and family. The administration of Rio Rancho High School has done a disservice to the students, their families, and the entire community by moving graduation to the event center. Mr. Richard Von Ancken should remember that this is the students’ time to shine, not the time for him to push around his weight.
Very Discouraged
March 18, 2007 12:19 PM
ECV said...
If Dr. Cleveland is so worried about graduates and their families driving down to the Pit, why did the high school encourage students to drive there to celebrate the basketball team reaching the state finals? I sense a bit of hypocrisy from the higher-ups in Rio Rancho.
ECV
March 18, 2007 12:19 PM
WILLIAM said...
THAT TAKES THE PROVERBIAL “CAKE”!
INPUT FROM ONLY A CHOSEN FEW OR WHO YELLED THE LOUDEST!
NOT EVERYONE WAS ALLOWED TO VOTE OR GIVE ANY INPUT!
DISTRICT’S EGO IS HURT BECAUSE THEY WERE BOOED LAST YEAR!
NO WONDER THEY WERE BOOED!
DECISION TO CHANGE JUST HAPPENED AND NOT EVERYONE KNOWS ABOUT IT, I JUST GOT AN EMAIL TODAY!??
WHAT IS UP WITH THAT, I NEVER GOT THE MEMO?
PLANS HAVE ALREADY BEEN MADE!
DISTRICT IS NOW USING THE WE ALREADY SIGNED THE CONTRACT EXCUSE!
I OWN A PAPER SHREDDER!
10,000 PEOPLE THAT WANT TO BE THERE CAN’T BE THERE!
ANNOUNCEMENTS STILL HAVE “THE PIT” ON THEM, THAT IS BEYOND TACKY, THAT IS RIGHT ABOVE B. S. IN MY BOOK!
LAST I CHECKED WE LIVE IN AMERICA!
WE HAVE RIGHTS, HERE!
IF THE DISCTRICT GETS AWAY WITH THIS SMOKE AND MIRRORS JOB, WE HAVE ALL JUST WITNESSED A CRIME!
OH MY GOODNESS GRACIOUS, THESE PEOPLE HAVE HAD AUTHORITY OVER OUR KIDS!
I AM FURIOUS!!!
I ALSO WANTED TO THANK ALL OF YOU THAT PUT THE BLOG TOGETHER YOU REALLY DID A GREAT JOB I WILL PASS IT ON!
I WOULD LIKE TO WRITE HOW I REALLY FEEL BUT I THINK YOU WOULD NOT WANT TO HAVE SUCH ANGER, RAGE, PROFANITY IN YOUR NICE WEBSITE!
WILLIAM
March 18, 2007 12:39 PM
JAMES said...
ditto to what William just wrote! I think I might just pop I'm so mad! PLEASE WAKE UP RRPS!
March 18, 2007 12:43 PM
John changed his mind said...
Ok, wow!
I just saw the koat newscast and I am most interested in all of the names of school staff that decided this? I am also interested in knowing how many people wanted this change? I WOULD LIKE THE GRADUATION IN RIO RANCHO TOO, BUT NOT LIKE THIS! This is not how anyone should conduct business, especially when our youth are involved our own kids. My son told me it would be going to be in Rio Rancho and I was pleased. But not so pleased to rip-off thousands of families. I won’t have a ticket problem but I am more aware now of many families that will. The bottom-line: this is absolutely wrong I am 100% for returning this graduation and all the future graduations to the UNM PIT, until, repeat, UNTIL, EVERY SINGLE FAMILY AFFECTED HAS HAD CHANCE TO PROVIDE THEIR VOICE IN THE MATTER!
The idea to have the change when the new school is built sounds ok, but we still need everyone’s say in this. Everything written on the blog space here makes great sense. I do like the reasons to have it here but too many people are getting the short end of the stick, this is very unfair.
John L.
March 18, 2007 1:03 PM
Mark said...
· The concept that Graduates are being asked to return tickets is at best wishful thinking because common sense dictates that the majority of students won’t return their tickets. And for various reasons! Again, placing other needy Families at their mercy. This strategy again, verifies that this was not planned well. What percentage will actually do this, who will be in charge of the returns, and who gets them? This sounds good in theory but in practice will be very problematic. Since you have never done this before it will be very difficult to do for the very first time. Update: In a KOAT newscast on television Mr. VonAncken contradicted himself, from what he advised the newspaper. He advised reporter Rod Green that he would leave it up to the student to secure any extra tickets beyond the allotted 6!!! That is going to be interesting! Now it us up to the student!!!! Surely, each student graduating have many other important tasks to take care of with only two months left in the school year? This is what he told Rod Green! Consider how unfair this process is to secure extra tickets? This confirms how poorly planned the “let’s just wing it” now thinking is in full affect! Please share this with others KOAT-TV newscast with reporter Rod Green, (hats off great news report) check this out, copy this info here into your browser there is a short commercial so please be patient: www.koat.com/video/11177714/index.html?taf=alb
March 18, 2007 2:15 PM
cmj2nc said...
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March 18, 2007 4:57 PM
BEN said...
Dr. Cleveland and Mr. VonAncken, I fully support you and respect all that you have to deal with, I am all the way on your side.
But I am motivated to write this to let you know that the way this entire matter was processed is absolutely wrong.
I think someone already wrote to allow everyone to have a say and that actually is the right way and is the way it has to be.
If we let this slide then who knows what will be next? It is too important and too many people are affected.
Yeah, I whole lot of people were booed last year and I did not agree with that. The only thing I will point out is we here in Rio Rancho are TOUGH! The graduation last year went on too long, people were getting restless and well, mad. If you think downsizing will help, well then you have not learned from last year. I have seen first hand what just 20 people can do if they choose to get rowdy. The Pit has had graduations since forever. There are many more things that fostered that and RRPS needs to take a good look at themselves in the mirror and that is actually the truth.
I did not agree with what happened at last year's graduation. But I sure don't agree with all of this.
It smells like, money as in kickbacks, or politics, or stupidity is driving this. What else could it be? Either someone is benefiting, or someone with power has an agenda, or you are deaf, dumb and blind? My apologies for being so blunt, but let us call it what it truly is. It is one of the three, or two of the three, or it is all three. If you stop and ask yourself why are we doing this hopefully you will find the answer.
I sincerely ask because what you are imposing and how you are imposing it is "DEAD WRONG". "I see said the blind man."
Additionally, if you would have had 4500 persons from last year’s graduation at the Star center, you would have still been booed. Consider that? Downsizing is not your problem. But what concerns me is with these shenanigans that you now refuse to bend on have only severely added to your woes.
Thanks for your time, and GO BACK TO THE PIT,
Ben
March 18, 2007 6:13 PM
Ben again said...
Go back to The Pit, because it is the RIGHT thing to do.
OR
Put it to a vote period and you will have all your answers and problems solved and then you did what you should have done in the first place.
It really is that simple.
Wise up, or forget about the "money and the contract", or tell who is ever driving this you won't do it, you won't do thousands of people and children wrong.
Sorry, but this blog dealy is bad to the bone!
March 18, 2007 6:34 PM
Anonymous said...
I fully support the petition. Our children and families shouldn't have to pay for this late decision. I hope all of my out of town relatives will get tickets, but I don't expect that to happen. This was handled very poorly and the decision should be reconsidered with the input of all the affected students and parents.
March 18, 2007 8:51 PM
Andrew said...
Why would you make a decision two months before graduation without a vote from your graduates? I've heard security was too much and that the venue is cheaper, why didn't you have a fundraiser or make the tickets a dollar each?! If it's about money then if 14,000 people showed up at the PIT like in previous years that would be $14,000! PLEASE change it back to the PIT!
March 18, 2007 8:59 PM
B. said...
I have worked my butt off in high school and my ENTIRE family has supported me in these twelve hard years of work and this is how you repay the class of 2007. It's not my fault you're only giving me six tickets, since RRPS is so good at making my decisions for me than maybe you can help me evaluate how I am going to divide up my tickets among my HUGE family.
March 18, 2007 9:01 PM
Re-think said...
I want my family to see me graduate and 6 tickets won’t be enough! Rio Rancho needs to re-think their decision!
March 18, 2007 9:02 PM
stressed out said...
Being a senior is very stressful because of everything we have to get done through the year and down the stretch and for me the graduation change makes my senior year a MILLION TIMES more stressful. Now I don’t get to have ALL of my loved ones see me graduate. Thanks for ruining one of the most important events of my life. I am sorry we are a very close family. I was really looking forward to graduation when I saw my cousins (with our ENTIRE family) graduate last year at the PIT from West Mesa and Eldorado, but now I'm not because not even half of them will be there. What a great way to show your appreciation to one of the largest graduating classes.
March 18, 2007 9:07 PM
cruel said...
· Now this plan that has just been unveiled allows us only 2 months notice, thus making it more hectic for families because of all the costs and sacrifices we now have to make regarding everything listed here. Cancelled plans, leave time, calling people and telling them they can’t come, no airline tickets etc. If you really took all of this into consideration like you claim you did, then that is very cruel of you! You don’t mind stressing people? You don’t mind allowing us hardly any time to really prepare? You don’t mind our child’s announcements are goofy? You don’t mind not asking everyone his or her thoughts on this? You stated “many” people complained, I have not met anyone yet that wants it in Rio Rancho, I read what the newspaper has put out but that read liked “canned” statements to me. An editor for the Albuquerque Journal wrote more people wanted it in Rio Rancho. May I state bluntly, that is a Damn lie! How in the hell do they know this? Show me proof that more people wanted it in Rio Rancho, you won’t because you can’t. If we put it to a vote right now, a fair vote, and more people say Rio Rancho they I will be happy to shut up. But they are afraid to put it to a vote because they know exactly what will happen. We should place bets and put this to a vote. RRPS will lose big time.
March 18, 2007 9:34 PM
Rick said...
· We would like to know at what meeting did the community decide this? There was no notice that this was subject to change. There was not a vote taken! The School Board did not even sanction this, this was a Mr. VonAncken, Mr. Duncan, Dr. Cleveland plan, Lets put this to a vote.
March 18, 2007 9:35 PM
observer news said...
Parent, reader rebuts rant on graduation ceremonies at the Star
Editor:
This is directed to the person who called in with a rant about the RRHS graduation.
I am sorry you have no relatives that want to share in your child's graduation ceremony. It must be a lonely life you have not having family that wants to celebrate such a huge accomplishment with you.
But from the tone of your rant, who can blame them?
The person who made the original rant was very sad that their child's grandparents all could not attend, not the silly reference you made to the "cousins of you stepsisters' half-brothers. You seem to be a very cold, selfish person.
My child doesn't graduate until next year and I will beg Sue Cleveland to reconsider having the ceremony at The Pit so all my child's siblings and spouses, and his 80-year- old grandparents, and his niece and whoever else that wants to share in this very emotional, happy time in my child's life can attend.
You keep your two extra tickets. I doubt you'll be able to get popcorn this night, but you enjoy. I hope your child has a happy memory and isn't hurt or upset because their extended family doesn't wish to attend.
I know someone will be good enough to give this person an extra ticket so the grandparents are all able to attend.
Not all people are as heartless as your rant leads me to believe you are. Just a question though. What do the football games and the band have to do with graduation, except that some of the band will be performing at the graduation?
Generally speaking, if I go to see my child play at halftime my family stays for the entire game and loudly roots for the football team (there is a lot of us). Do you applaud the band?
Yes, I am signing this letter, I am not ashamed of my feelings.
March 18, 2007 9:50 PM
Mary M said...
School Officials:
If you don’t change the graduation back to the Pit,
My daughter won’t be going to her graduation.
I will also cancel my announcements as we can’t invite everyone who wants to go so why hurt the other relatives that want to go. Thanks for your help in ruining my daughter’s graduation.
Hope this doesn’t happen to your child when they graduate.
It won’t because you will do what suits your own needs.
Mary M
March 18, 2007 9:52 PM
Vince said...
Take the GRADUATION back to the Pit like all of the other Rio Rancho graduations.
We won’t get to have all our loved ones there who have contributed to our getting our diploma and to celebrate and enjoy with us.
March 18, 2007 9:57 PM
America said...
PLEASE LISTEN:
Let the Graduates decide for themselves and then we can go from there.
This is America and we have the right to vote.
H. S.
March 18, 2007 9:58 PM
N. Kennedy said...
To Whom It May Concern:
I am writing in regards to the change of the graduation to the Santa Ana Star Center from The Pit that came up just 2 months prior to my granddaughter graduating.
I have been in my granddaughter’s life since she was born and so have her uncles, aunts, cousins (they are more like her brothers and sisters then cousins).
I was there when she graduated from kindergarten.
I was there when she graduated from 5th grade to go into middle school and
I thought I would be there when she graduated from high school.
But we don’t have enough tickets and to press you or anyone for more tickets just cheats someone else that is just as deserving, from going.
Don’t you all see that?
Sure there will be those that will have more then enough tickets because they were able to finagle them better.
Then that means someone else will go with out.
Someone wins someone loses, leave that to a sporting event not a person’s life.
At a family gathering we had on Friday, yes a total of 25 members of family and friends were present, who knew one girl could have that many special people in her life.
We never counted until now.
She had to tell all of us (I could tell it was the hardest thing she had to do) her uncles, aunts and cousins that the most rewarding and greatest achievement that she has accomplished so far, will not be celebrated with ALL of her family.
Only a few will be able to see her walk up proudly, take her diploma, look up at her family representing her and wish she could have had them all there like normal when we celebrate birthdays and any other special occasions.
Rio Rancho School system you took the right away from us and at such a short notice?
Don’t we get any say in this or have a vote I thought this was America?
I know others have already stated this but I’m going to state it again, I thought this was America?
Don’t the graduates get to decide where they want to have THEIR graduation? Please let her family celebrate with her and change it back to The Pit.
Please don’t stress the graduates more by making them choose who can or can’t go. Let her have everyone important in her life there.
She and all the other graduates need to focus on the graduation and not the harm you have already done to this special occasion.
Let them focus on what is important, their grades, planning what they will do from now on, they are all heading into the next phase of their lives.
I don’t write, see, hear or walk very well. I am not very good with words, sorry. But I want each of you to do is think of your grandfather and then your grandmother for a few minutes and think about how much they mean to you.
I’m way down the hill and who knows when the Lord is going to call me home?
It won’t be long.
I’m not asking for extra tickets I already explained that.
But, I am asking that we return to The Pit.
Please accept this for all of the other grandparents that can’t contact you or write you.
I know for sure they all want to be at the granddaughter or grandson’s graduation.
Let the change happen and see what a change will do to your school’s attitude.
Pay it Forward Now!!!!
Be the better person and speak up for our children.
I am praying that you understand and do the right thing.
N. Kennedy
March 18, 2007 10:29 PM
o say said...
If you have never read the words here is your chance
O say, can you see, by the dawn’s early light,
What so proudly we hailed at the twilight’s last gleaming,
Whose broad stripes and bright stars, through the perilous fight,
O’er the ramparts we watched, were so gallantly streaming?
And the rockets’ red glare, the bombs bursting in air,
Gave proof through the night that our flag was still there;
O say, does that star-spangled banner yet wave
O’er the land of the free and the home of the brave?
On the shore, dimly seen thro’ the mist of the deep,
Where the foe’s haughty host in dread silence reposes,
What is that which the breeze, o’er the towering steep,
As it fitfully blows, half conceals, half discloses?
Now it catches the gleam of the morning’s first beam,
In full glory reflected, now shines on the stream
’Tis the star-spangled banner. Oh! long may it wave
O’er the land of the free and the home of the brave!
And where is that band who so vauntingly swore
That the havoc of war and the battle’s confusion
A home and a country should leave us no more?
Their blood has washed out their foul footstep’s pollution.
No refuge could save the hireling and slave
From the terror of flight, or the gloom of the grave,
And the star-spangled banner in triumph doth wave
O’er the land of the free and the home of the brave.
Oh! thus be it ever, when freemen shall stand
Between their loved homes and the war’s desolation,
Blest with vict’ry and peace, may the Heav’n-rescued land
Praise the Pow’r that hath made and preserved us a nation!
Then conquer we must, when our cause it is just,
And this be our motto: "In God is our trust."
And the star-spangled banner in triumph shall wave
O’er the land of the free and the home of the brave.
March 18, 2007 10:34 PM
Abe said...
Four score and seven years ago our fathers brought forth on this continent a new nation, conceived in liberty and dedicated to the proposition that all men are created equal.
Now we are engaged in a great civil war, testing whether that nation or any nation so conceived and so dedicated can long endure. We are met on a great battlefield of that war. We have come to dedicate a portion of that field as a final resting-place for those who here gave their lives that that nation might live. It is altogether fitting and proper that we should do this. But in a larger sense, we cannot dedicate, we cannot consecrate, we cannot hallow this ground. The brave men, living and dead who struggled here have consecrated it far above our poor power to add or detract. The world will little note nor long remember what we say here, but it can never forget what they did here.
It is for us the living rather to be dedicated here to the unfinished work which they who fought here have thus far so nobly advanced. It is rather for us to be here dedicated to the great task remaining before us--that from these honored dead we take increased devotion to that cause for which they gave the last full measure of devotion--that we here highly resolve that these dead shall not have died in vain, that this nation under God shall have a new birth of freedom, and that government of the people, by the people, for the people shall not perish from the earth.
March 18, 2007 10:38 PM
the pursuit of Happiness said...
I still get chills when I read this, this is for all of RRPS. It might be a great idea that you really read this.
When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume, among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed, by their Creator, with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness.
That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles, and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.
Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object, evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.
Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let the Facts be submitted to a candid world.
He has refused his Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.
He has forbidden his Governors to pass Laws of immediate and pressing importance, unless suspended in their operation till his Assent should be obtained; and when so suspended, he has utterly neglected to attend to them.
He has refused to pass other Laws for the accommodation of large districts of people, unless those people would relinquish the right of Representation in the Legislature, a right inestimable to them and formidable to tyrants only.
He has called together legislative bodies at places unusual, uncomfortable, and distant from the depository of their Public Records, for the sole purpose of fatiguing them into compliance with his measures.
He has dissolved Representative Houses repeatedly, for opposing with manly firmness of his invasions on the rights of the people.
He has refused for a long time, after such dissolutions, to cause others to be elected, whereby the Legislative Powers, incapable of Annihilation, have returned to the People at large for their exercise; the State remaining in the mean time exposed to all the dangers of invasion from without, and convulsions within.
He has endeavoured to prevent the population of these States; for that purpose obstructing the Laws for Naturalization of Foreigners; refusing to pass others to encourage their migrations hither, and raising the conditions of new Appropriations of Lands.
He has obstructed the Administration of Justice by refusing his Assent to Laws for establishing Judiciary Powers.
He has made Judges dependent on his Will alone for the tenure of their offices, and the amount and payment of their salaries.
He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harass our people and eat out their substance.
He has kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies without the Consent of our legislatures.
He has affected to render the Military independent of and superior to the Civil Power.
He has combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution, and unacknowledged by our laws; giving his Assent to their Acts of pretended Legislation:
For quartering large bodies of armed troops among us:
For protecting them, by a mock Trial from punishment for any Murders which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these States:
For cutting off our Trade with all parts of the world:
For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent:
For depriving us in many cases, of the benefit of Trial by Jury:
For transporting us beyond Seas to be tried for pretended offences:
For abolishing the free System of English Laws in a neighbouring Province, establishing therein an Arbitrary government, and enlarging its Boundaries so as to render it at once an example and fit instrument for introducing the same absolute rule into these Colonies
For taking away our Charters, abolishing our most valuable Laws and altering fundamentally the Forms of our Governments:
For suspending our own Legislatures, and declaring themselves invested with power to legislate for us in all cases whatsoever.
He has abdicated Government here, by declaring us out of his Protection and waging War against us.
He has plundered our seas, ravaged our coasts, burnt our towns, and destroyed the lives of our people.
He is at this time transporting large Armies of foreign Mercenaries to compleat the works of death, desolation, and tyranny, already begun with circumstances of Cruelty & Perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous ages, and totally unworthy the Head of a civilized nation.
He has constrained our fellow Citizens taken Captive on the high Seas to bear Arms against their Country, to become the executioners of their friends and Brethren, or to fall themselves by their Hands.
He has excited domestic insurrections amongst us, and has endeavoured to bring on the inhabitants of our frontiers, the merciless Indian Savages whose known rule of warfare, is an undistinguished destruction of all ages, sexes and conditions.
In every stage of these Oppressions We have Petitioned for Redress in the most humble terms: Our repeated Petitions have been answered only by repeated injury. A Prince whose character is thus marked by every act which may define a Tyrant, is unfit to be the ruler of a free people.
Nor have We been wanting in attentions to our British brethren. We have warned them from time to time of attempts by their legislature to extend an unwarrantable jurisdiction over us. We have reminded them of the circumstances of our emigration and settlement here. We have appealed to their native justice and magnanimity, and we have conjured them by the ties of our common kindred to disavow these usurpations, which, would inevitably interrupt our connections and correspondence. They too have been deaf to the voice of justice and of consanguinity. We must, therefore, acquiesce in the necessity, which denounces our Separation, and hold them, as we hold the rest of mankind, Enemies in War, in Peace Friends.
We, therefore, the Representatives of the United States of America, in General Congress, Assembled, appealing to the Supreme Judge of the world for the rectitude of our intentions, do, in the Name, and by Authority of the good People of these Colonies, solemnly publish and declare, That these United Colonies are, and of Right ought to be Free and Independent States; that they are Absolved from all Allegiance to the British Crown, and that all political connection between them and the State of Great Britain, is and ought to be totally dissolved; and that as Free and Independent States, they have full Power to levy War, conclude Peace, contract Alliances, establish Commerce, and to do all other Acts and Things which Independent States may of right do. And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes and our sacred Honor.
March 18, 2007 10:48 PM
very "many" said...
· A newspaper article in the newspaper states “many” parents called asking to have the graduation changed to the Santa Ana Star owned by the casino/center hockey rink, there will now be “many more parents calling to complain that this was not a well thought out idea. Per the newspaper a handful of parents requested this? This does not go over very well to Everyone affected regarding the decision process and the person or persons behind it. “Many”? How many was “many? Lets put this to a vote, just do the math if 10,000+ persons can’t attend, then clearly there are “many” more then the “many” the administration is stating wanted this change, just think about this logically.
March 18, 2007 10:57 PM
Gino said...
· http://129.24.2.119/fbonline5/calendar.asp?filter=&month=5&day=19&year=2007&x=14&y=6 Please paste this info into your browser, or you might be able to click on it, the original Graduation date of 5/19 is still open. We can return to “The Pit”. Regarding your decision to change this year’s Graduation to the owned by the casino/center hockey rink - The Rio Rancho High School Agenda Book clearly states the Graduation will be at “The Pit”. This is what we used to plan out this important event in our Child’s life.
March 18, 2007 11:04 PM
knock knock said...
Knock! Knock!
who's there?
PIT!
PIT who!
PITiful decision by the school to change the graduation!
March 18, 2007 11:09 PM
CYNTHIA said...
Our Graduate has three (3) generations of over 50 relatives, including his parents and two (2) Brothers that Graduated at “The Pit”.
All of those generations no longer live in NM, but we are tight group.
We participate in Family Reunions and the turnout is huge.
Someone already noted not to penalize large families and this is true.
We need a lot more then six (6) tickets, sorry.
We adhere to the philosophy go forth and multiply, we did and we do.
Now we have an “owned by the casino/center hockey rink” venue to look forward to that is just too small.
We are talking in circles here and I have read and heard enough evidence to confirm the school’s decision is totally wrong and unfair.
Sorry, this inappropriate decision and how it is being forced upon everyone is way, way out of line. Quoting others here, “we have rights”, “this is America”, hell someone submitted the Declaration of Independence for goodness sake!?
But, they are right!
Because there was no input from everyone, no vote and no Democracy, more like hypocrisy and dictatorship!
There are some classic rebuttals here I have really enjoyed reading them, they all sing the same song when all is said and done.
In support of GO BACK TO THE PIT.
March 19, 2007 6:04 AM
loved the knock knock joke said...
We support what district office in Rio Rancho is doing in theory. We truly applaud you for that. We want to make that crystal clear.
Please take the time to carefully review everything submitted here. Every single rebuttal clearly counters any and all of your points, period. I am sorry but it is true. Everyone here makes an excellent point. Is the crux of this entire matter the security issue? The booing? What the cost would be? Past input from past boards?
Don’t punish the Class of 2007 for something they did not do, period. You are only saving $2K on the change and that means the 4,500 seats cost more then all of the potential seats at “The Pit”. We are paying more at the center per seat, period! You refer to input from past boards wanting it in Rio Rancho? The accurate facts are this current board maintains, “I see nothing, I hear nothing, I know nothing”! They are pointing the finger at you, district office! Past boards did not envision how BIG our schools were going to get! “Hindsight regarding all of the facts is 20/20”. We will probably break the state’s all-time record sometime soon; did the old boards see that coming? If they did then they should have realized that we would need a venue that could hold between 16 and 20K, not 4K, period. Sorry district office we like your idea in theory but the reality is this is not right, period. Not the way to bought and sold it. It is actually quite ugly because look at who is being impacted by it. The Pit is still available, renege on the contract and go back, period.
Sally
March 19, 2007 6:30 AM
sally again said...
So sorry about writing the word "period" so many times, yikes! My son just text message me and said to add, "you reap what you sow", transaltion, the way this has all been implemented is horrible and so so wrong and the ripple effect will not be positive now and in the long haul. I love my son, (period).
March 19, 2007 6:38 AM
Gary said...
it is not what you know it is who you know
it is not what you did rrps it is how you did it
in support of the return to the pit
lets not this one get by us lads
or it will be hell to pay
March 19, 2007 6:43 AM
comment 108 had said...
THIS BLOG SPOT REALLY REALLY REALLY IS GREAT KEEP UP THE OUTSTANDING WORK HERE WE ARE SO SO GLAD TO BE ABLE TO HAVE A VOICE IN THIS GIGANTIC MISTAKE AFFECTING OUR CHILDREN OUR FAMILIES OUR COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE
SUSAN
March 19, 2007 6:49 AM
thank you said...
Dr. Sue Cleveland,
Comes now the injured individuals.
The decision to vacate the University Arena for graduation ceremonies in May 2007 is erroneous and nefarious at best.
We ask for mercy and pray you see the complete facts as they have transpired.
We hold you fully responsible and find you completely culpable of any and all wrongdoing and include Richard Von Ancken.
As it is not our intentions to shame you publicly more so to reason with you on all correct and factual counts.
The injured specifically request you to reconfirm your original position and proceed with said ceremonies in whole at noted location.
As you are the responsible party and have full care of this matter in complete finality we encourage you Godspeed.
We further insist on your expeditious action.
Thank you.
March 19, 2007 7:25 AM
not crazy said...
Save my brother's sanity!
Please move the Rio Rancho High School graduation ceremony back to The PIT.
Right now, dammit!
March 19, 2007 8:42 AM
Dag nabit said...
"don't push me cause i'm close to the edge
i'm trying not to lose my head.....
it's like a jungle sometimes it makes me wonder" why you changed it from THE PIT?!
March 19, 2007 8:59 AM
George D said...
Dr. Sue Cleveland and Mr. Von Anken
Please be respectfully advised that after you have read everything here along with all of the newspaper statements, the news coverage, persons calling, petitions, discussions, complaints and you still don’t see the “Big picture”?
Then please put yourselves in our shoes - we absolutely were not given enough notice, we were not allowed to vote, there are people flying in, all of the expenses involved, elderly Grandparents, Relatives and Loved Ones that won’t get to go, along with over 10,000+ displaced persons and the clear fact the new venue is too small.
Each Graduate has a supporting cast that absolutely deserves to be in attendance!
And there are many, many more important reasons to have this celebration at “The Pit”.
We are truly shocked that you don’t get this?!
Then if you still don’t understand without a doubt we all have a very, very serious problem in RRPS, and it starts at the top.
The correct choice is so obvious even outsiders that have nothing to gain can unbiasedly see the problem and the simple solution in this matter.
George
March 19, 2007 10:00 AM
Lets vote now said...
Please allow the parents the legal guardians and seniors vote. Put this problem to a FAIR vote.
March 19, 2007 10:02 AM
Norm said...
Ditto:
Lets vote now said...
Please allow the parents the legal guardians and seniors vote. Put this problem to a FAIR vote.
Norm
March 19, 2007 10:03 AM
Monics said...
I also agree:
Lets vote now said...
Please allow the parents the legal guardians and seniors vote. Put this problem to a FAIR vote.
Monica
March 19, 2007 10:04 AM
Ernesto said...
Si,
Lets vote now said...
Please allow the parents the legal guardians and seniors vote. Put this problem to a FAIR vote.
Ernesto
March 19, 2007 10:05 AM
Julia said...
I am the mother of four children and writing this on behalf of my husband and family. Our son is graduating and we don't have enough tickets. Four grandparents, two parents and three siblings comes out to nine guests. We are three tickets short. A person noted earlier that they don't want to shortchange anyone out of a ticket, neither do we.
You are making us choose who will get to go and you are making us cheat someone else from going.
My son has asked for extra tickets and there is none available.
We are asking Dr. Cleveland to allow families and graduates to vote and return this celebration to the Pit.
Thank you,
Julia
March 19, 2007 10:15 AM
Julia said...
Sorry, I wrote a comment a little bit ago about needing nine tickets. I forgot to add that this completely leaves out aunts, uncles, cousins, neigbors etc.
You are making us choose who will get to go and you are making us cheat someone else out of going and you making us leave out family and friends we wanted to go.
We are asking Dr. Cleveland to allow families and graduates to vote and return this celebration to the Pit.
Thank you,
Julia
March 19, 2007 10:31 AM
2007 Seniors said...
http://rioranchogradsunite.blogspot.com/
!!!!!!!!!!!!!ATTENTION SENIORS!!!!!!!!!!!!
· PLEASE CONTACT http://rioranchogradsunite.blogspot.com/ or email: cmj2nc@aol.com TODAY!
· CALL RRPS DISTRICT TODAY IF YOU OR YOUR PARENTS ARE CONCERNED ABOUT GRADUATION BEING CHANGED TO THE SANTA ANA STAR CENTER (896-0667 SUPERINTENDENT & SCHOOL BOARD).
· TELL THEM YOU WANT IT AT “THE PIT”
· MAKE SURE YOUR PARENTS KNOW YOUR GRADUATION ANNOUNCEMENTS WILL STILL SAY “THE PIT” ON THE ANNOUNCEMENT BUT THERE WILL BE AN INSERT STATING THE CHANGE (HOW TACKY) YOU CAN STILL GET A REFUND.
· REMEMBER THERE IS ONLY ONE LANE ENTERING AND ONE LANE LEAVING THE CENTER IMAGINE THE MESS FOR BOTH STUDENTS AND PARENTS HAVING TO DRIVE THERE.
· WE SHOULD HAVE A SAY IN WHERE WE WANT TO GRADUATE; REMEMBER SENIORS IN THE WORDS OF OUR PRINCIPAL “THE CHOICE IS YOURS!!!!!!!!!!”
March 19, 2007 10:53 AM
Anonymous said...
Do Rio Rancho Parents have no rights!!!!!!!?????????
Is their anyone else out there that wants to invite their extended relatives to their son or daughters graduation? Please, who has only 6 relatives to invite, unless you only have one kid, no aunts?
Uncles, cousins and only one set of grandparents then yes you are fine. But what about the graduates that have 2 sets of grandparents, 12 brothers and sisters and their wives or husbands, their kids and their other aunts and uncles on the other side. We have always supported our nieces, nephews, cousins, grandchildren and want to when she/he graduates and accepts her/his diploma. Why should we not be allowed to go see them graduate and feel their excitement that they are finally finished with one chapter in their life.
March 19, 2007 10:55 AM
Brad back to the Pit has said...
I'm on my lunch break, this blog deal is really great. My mom said to check out the weblog because everyone is concerned. Thank you for being concerned enough to get involved. Seniors lets tell them we want to go back to the PIT.
Shout out to Becky!
March 19, 2007 10:56 AM
Betty said...
Rio Rancho High School, we agree and support your return the UNM PIT,
Frank and Betty
March 19, 2007 10:57 AM
lets vote said...
Please consider this very important fact, if they put it to a vote now right now, the Graduation would go back to “The Pit" please really think about this, they are displacing over 10,000+ persons!
March 19, 2007 12:34 PM
william said...
THAT TAKES THE PROVERBIAL “CAKE”!
INPUT FROM ONLY A CHOSEN FEW OR WHO YELLED THE LOUDEST!
NOT EVERYONE WAS ALLOWED TO VOTE OR GIVE ANY INPUT!
DISTRICT’S EGO IS HURT BECAUSE THEY WERE BOOED LAST YEAR!
NO WONDER THEY WERE BOOED!
DECISION TO CHANGE JUST HAPPENED AND NOT EVERYONE KNOWS ABOUT IT, I JUST GOT AN EMAIL TODAY!??
WHAT IS UP WITH THAT, I NEVER GOT THE MEMO?
PLANS HAVE ALREADY BEEN MADE!
DISTRICT IS NOW USING THE WE ALREADY SIGNED THE CONTRACT EXCUSE!
I OWN A PAPER SHREDDER!
10,000 PEOPLE THAT WANT TO BE THERE CAN’T BE THERE!
ANNOUNCEMENTS STILL HAVE “THE PIT” ON THEM, THAT IS BEYOND TACKY, THAT IS RIGHT ABOVE B. S. IN MY BOOK!
LAST I CHECKED WE LIVE IN AMERICA!
WE HAVE RIGHTS, HERE!
IF THE DISCTRICT GETS AWAY WITH THIS SMOKE AND MIRRORS JOB, WE HAVE ALL JUST WITNESSED A CRIME!
OH MY GOODNESS GRACIOUS, THESE PEOPLE HAVE HAD AUTHORITY OVER OUR KIDS!
I AM FURIOUS!!!
I ALSO WANTED TO THANK ALL OF YOU THAT PUT THE BLOG TOGETHER YOU REALLY DID A GREAT JOB I WILL PASS IT ON!
I WOULD LIKE TO WRITE HOW I REALLY FEEL BUT I THINK YOU WOULD NOT WANT TO HAVE SUCH ANGER, RAGE, PROFANITY IN YOUR NICE WEBSITE!
WILLIAM
March 19, 2007 12:38 PM
Phil said...
Herein, confirms that the person or persons involved in making this last minute decision/change did not take into full account all of this information! If this was not a last minute decision, then why did it take until March 2007 to spring it on us? Was there a vote? Was balanced input solicited? Who, What, When, Where, Why and How did this come about? Please be respectfully advised that we are not in the minority here, we are in the majority here and absolutely not at all happy with this last minute change! Lets put it to a vote now.
Phil
March 19, 2007 12:40 PM
ditto again said...
Ditto
SERIOUSLY…SIMPLY, WHAT PRICE DO YOU PLACE ON A CELEBRATION OF LOVE AND LIFE?! THE COST THE SAVINGS THAT MRS. CLEVELAND AND MR. VONANCKEN ALLUDE TO ABSOLUTELY DO NOT OUT WEIGH WHAT WILL BE COMPLETELY LOST! YES, EVEN TO ATTEMPT TO PLACE A PRICE ON THIS ENTIRE PROCESS, CELEBRATION AND EVENT IS INAPPROPRIATE BECAUSE IT IS TRULY “PRICELESS”! TO ARGUE THIS IMPORTANT POINT IS IGNORANCE AND…..WELL….VERY WRONG.
Norm
March 19, 2007 12:41 PM
time to vote said...
6-ticket limit. One Graduate, has 4 Grandparents, 2 Parents, that equals 6 tickets, but what about divorced families that would now have 6 Grandparents and 4 Parents, that equals 8? That does not even include Sisters, Brothers, Aunts, Uncles, Nieces, Nephews, Cousins, Loved Ones, Neighbors, past Teachers, Employers and Friends!
We want to have all families and the graduates vote
Vicky
March 19, 2007 1:00 PM
concur said...
We concur because:
6-ticket limit. One Graduate, has 4 Grandparents, 2 Parents, that equals 6 tickets, but what about divorced families that would now have 6 Grandparents and 4 Parents, that equals 8? That does not even include Sisters, Brothers, Aunts, Uncles, Nieces, Nephews, Cousins, Loved Ones, Neighbors, past Teachers, Employers and Friends!
Mithcell
March 19, 2007 1:01 PM
Lou said...
This is true:
If you take EVERYTHING into consideration, both sides of the coin, ALL of their points, and now their explanations and contradictions to not concede. This is a mess; we cannot even begin to explain how bad this truly is. The very Best thing they can do at this point is to take this celebration this Graduation back to “The Pit" and then they can regroup for next year, that way Graduates and Loved Ones can actually be allowed input for next year. It won’t be one sided like now and the powers that be would have a whole year to explain their logic.
Lou
March 19, 2007 1:12 PM
Joe said...
Go back to THE PIT
We ourselves witnessed 3 Graduations at “The Pit” last year because of our Nephews Graduating, “The Pit” more then handled the flow of people coming to celebrate. These very same Graduations would not have fit in a 4,500-seat facility. And we would have not been able to be present for each of our nephew’s Graduations if it was limited to 6. We filmed each of these events for our Sister and Brothers and our Nephews, a gift that they will always cherish.
Joe
March 19, 2007 1:32 PM
to the pit said...
2007 - Largest Graduating Class in the entire state and in our school’s history.
GO RAMS GO BACK TO THE PIT
Carl
March 19, 2007 1:43 PM
Sam said...
Please help!
We are asking you all please change the Graduation back to "The Pit”!
The date is still open and available at this venue.
For the “GREATER GOOD” GO BACK TO THE PIT!
Hey even our Basketball Team and Fans had to go to Albuquerque for the entire tournament and Rocked the Pit”!
March 19, 2007 2:51 PM
Liz said...
THINK ABOUT THIS!!!
Everyone here has a good point but really, really think about this:
Driving to; Parking; Leaving; Driving home!
How much traffic comes in and out of the pit when you are at an event?
But at least there you have 4 different ways to get in and out and a new 4 lane freeway out, so the time to get home if you live in Rio Rancho or on the west side is maybe a half an hour or so, not bad.
At the Santa Ana, with 700 to 750 students, which at least three fourths and more will be driving themselves, since they have to be there 2 hours early. Or their parents will be driving them. Plus school staff and Santa Ana staff that have to get there to prepare. Then all the families will be driving and the other fortunate ones that get to go, so total you are looking at a lot of automobiles driving there all at once. You will have to drive through Rio Rancho to get to a 2 lane road, with ONLY a 1 lane entrance, now that is dangerous! Could and accident occur? Yes! That will not cut down on driving time it will take you longer.
What about the parking?
That too, is going to be a major mess, and will not properly accommodate all of those vehicles. That will also add to the delay before the graduation even starts.
Now when it is time to go home you are looking at all those people and cars trying to get out of an area that has ONLY 1 way out and back to a 2 lane road! Here you are looking at a long wait if you are lucky and with no accidents. If there is an accident it is really going to be a major mess because then everyone heading in that direction will have to wait, do you get the picture?
I’d rather be coming out of the pit with more ways out to help us if something goes wrong, where if God forbid someone gets in an accident, at least you can find a way to turn around or find another road to turn on to.
What if someone gets in an accident coming from or going to the Santa Ana, where are our choices to get out of traffic? WAIT, there are NONE because there is ONLY 1 way in and 1 way out and it is a 2 lane road with NO turn around area anywhere except when you are on 528 or Northern!!!
TO ALL OF THE OFFICALS WHO CHANGED THIS!!
Start praying no one gets hurt on their way there or the way home because then you will have legal problems to deal with! God forbid a loss of life occurs!
Nobody wants that?!
Better yet change the graduation Back to the Pit and avoid all this.
THINK ABOUT THAT!!!!!!!
March 19, 2007 3:23 PM
? said...
Who is going to pay for my families airline tickets?
I cannot get a refund now.
This has to go back to the pit!
Glen
March 19, 2007 3:27 PM
Alan said...
The actual average amount of persons attending per each Senior for prior Graduations was about 19, some would have more, some less but that is the average, within the last few years there was no official ticket (Dr. Cleveland said the Class of 1999 was at Johnson Gym).
And within recent years Rio Rancho has always packed “The Pit”.
But now there are tickets and it has been limited to exactly 6.
Also there is a claim that 2 extra tickets will supposedly be given out to bring the total to 8 however this will still not remedy this poor plan.
No amount will remedy this because 4,500 seats is around 10,000+ persons short that won’t be allowed to attend.
Mathematically 6 times 750 equals 4,500 so not very many Graduates will be getting over 6 tickets.
This has to go back to the PIT.
I have heard they are trying like hell to push it to 5,000, seats that will still leave out right 10,000 people.
You can't right your wrong by adding some seats how is it you don't grasp this?
Alan
March 19, 2007 3:35 PM
gene said...
My daughter wants all of her family at her graduation.
Mom, dad, sisters, brother, aunts, uncles, grandparents and cousins.
That comes to 16!
Don't make her choose who gets to go and who gets to stay home.
We all want to celebrate with her.
BACK TO THE PIT!
Graduates and parents should have had a choice, it's our graduation, not the administrations!
March 19, 2007 3:39 PM
Pat said...
We are writing you to please take the time to read all this information and input and return this graduation to the pit.
Because valuable time is passing us by let the parents vote on this that way we can put this whole mess to rest.
We are getting sick over this it is not right, thank you.
Pat
March 19, 2007 3:58 PM
To Sue Cleveland said...
Sue Cleveland, you are going to get sued or have an injunction brought against you.
What comes around will go around.
Honestly, you are a much better person than this big mess.
Here is your time to shine and stop this ordeal.
You have not heard the end of this.
Comment after comment show you never let parents vote.
You only let certain people call in and complain.
There is nothing wrong with that as long as you let everyone state their case.
That has not happened yet.
Have a fair vote or take it back to the PIT.
I am reading between the lines you are trying very hard to do the right thing and keep the graduation safe.
But the way you are handling this mistake will not set well at all.
Listen, just by you going back to the PIT will calm the crowd.
Sue, do the right thing.
Kyle
March 19, 2007 4:06 PM
Jim said...
To save time and energy.
Please help!
We are asking you all please change the Graduation back to the “Pit”.
The date is still open and available at this venue.
For the “GREATER GOOD” GO BACK TO THE PIT!
Hey even our Basketball Team and Fans had to go to Albuquerque for the entire tournament and Rocked the Pit”!
March 19, 2007 4:10 PM
Tim said...
Attention all you school staff we do not agree with how you handled this graduation.
Everything submitted here hits the nail on the head.
We need you to listen and GO BACK TO THE PIT
thank you,
Tim
March 19, 2007 4:13 PM
Bobby D said...
"Come writers and critics
Who prophesize with your pen
And keep your eyes wide
The chance won't come again
And don't speak too soon
For the wheel's still in spin
And there's no tellin' who
That it's namin'.
For the loser now
Will be later to win
For the times they are a-changin'."
March 19, 2007 4:37 PM
Rose said...
The Rio Rancho High School Principal left parents out of a significant decision.
Parents were told the graduation would be held at the PIT which holds up to 17,000 people. The Star Center, at most, might hold 4500.
This year, RRHS has one of the largest graduating classes in recent history.
Plans should have been discussed with the people it most affects.
Last year the PIT was packed with families and the graduating class was not as large.
Let's rethink this now!
March 19, 2007 4:40 PM
Mandy said...
CHANGE IT BACK TO THE PIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I WANT MY FAMILY TO SEE ME GRADUATE!
March 19, 2007 6:59 PM
Chris said...
This blog information tells the truth!
RRPS NEEDS to change their decision.
March 19, 2007 7:01 PM
senior said...
I like that the venue is closer to home, but I would rather have my entire family and grandparents and relatives see my special day.
It’s despicable that the administration did this at the last minute and without anyone’s consent.
March 19, 2007 7:04 PM
Dad said...
RIO RANCHO PUBLIC SCHOOLS:
Do something right and change this graduation back to the PIT.
Eric
March 19, 2007 7:07 PM
grandpa said...
RE: RIO RANCHO GRADUATION
Please relocate the graduation ceremony to The PIT. Our family will not have enough tickets for all of us to witness our grandson's graduation.
Thank you
March 19, 2007 7:13 PM
Walter said...
At this point, no fair or reasonable explanation can out weigh ALL the reasons why the Graduation should be at “The Pit”.
Go ahead and weigh each and every matter honestly and fairly, both sides, the “proof is in the pudding”, fact, the way this entire decision was imposed has been handled, is wrong and very unfair.
If it were above board, we would not be writing this.
March 19, 2007 7:19 PM
max said...
Quoting a famous movie line - "We are mad as hell and we are not going to take it"!
We concur with the blog and count us in as a family against this negative decision imposed upon our children, PASS IT ON!:
Excellent newscast, copy this info here into your browser (there will be a short commercial first):
www.koat.com/video/11177714/index.html?taf=alb
March 19, 2007 7:23 PM
P. O.'d said...
Hello Jerry,
I just found the web site blog thingy I will make sure to pass it on to other families that have seniors graduating.
Thanks for letting me know.
Dear Rio Rancho district office.
Upset is an understatement, we are P.O'd big time!!!
You are dazed and confused if you think people were just going to let you slide.
HELL NO!
Sorry guys, you need to regroup, rethink and return to the PIT!
Kay
March 19, 2007 7:29 PM
Observer said...
"Parents of Rio Rancho graduates of 2007. Hey, I'll bet you all don't know that the graduation announcements that you undoubtedly spend hundreds of dollars on will tell your family and friends that your child is graduating from the University of New Mexico basketball arena, not the Santa Ana Star Center. Don't believe me? Call the printer."
March 19, 2007 9:12 PM
observer said...
"Graduation should be held at The Pit.
Somebody got that one wrong."
March 19, 2007 9:14 PM
discrimination said...
I am a Hispanic-Latino, Anglo American woman.
This decision is DISCRIMINATORY:
FACT: Class grade level seniors, young women and young men were scheduled to graduate from high school by a set location determined by date and time, at the original venue, which is the University of New Mexico Arena also known as The Pit.
FACT: Rio Rancho School personnel did willfully and knowingly change the original venue to the Star center owned by the Santa Ana casino with two (2) months remaining in the school year.
FACT: This school personnel imposition, requirement and mandate willfully and knowingly impedes families with a specific amount of children, parents, grandparents and alienates and excludes each of them from this public event where you are not monetarily charged to attend but you are allowed entry by rationed tickets only.
FACT: This school personnel imposition, requirement and mandate willfully and knowingly includes the dismissal of aunts, uncles, cousins, in-laws and generations of living relatives.
FACT: This school personnel imposition, requirement and mandate willfully and knowingly includes the dismissal of any persons that have been deemed friend.
FACT: This school personnel imposition, requirement and mandate venue change from said, UNM Arena to the Star center assisted in this impeding, dismissal and exclusion of persons.
FACT: This venue change occurred as told by school personnel, when unnamed “persons” asked, complained and insisted said change occur. Exact time frame is undetermined.
FACT: An undetermined “many” persons superseded the one hundred percent availability of any input from the rest of all other persons directly affected by this willful change of venue.
FACT: School personnel admit to willfully and knowingly understand and stated they considered the entire matter affecting everyone! Thus confirming their complete negligence and ignorance of the seriousness of the matter.
FACT: No votes were cast formally or informally by one hundred percent of all persons affected. School personnel both willfully and knowingly did not utilize this method and tool.
FACT: No poll or other data was investigated and analyzed formally or informally by one hundred percent of all persons affected. School personnel both willfully and knowingly did not utilize this method and tool.
FACT: School personnel both willfully and knowingly did impose, require and mandate all actions causing an undetermined amount of persons to be adversely affected, emotionally, psychologically and financially. Contrary to the pursuit of happiness.
FACT: Said discrimination affects directly and indirectly both genders, all ages and all races.
FACT: An actual count of each nationality will determine which nationalities are affected and to what degree.
FACT: Your immediate family is absolutely penalized by the amount of persons in your household or related by blood. Example if you have 4 living grandparents and 2 parents you have exhausted the rationed amount of tickets given. Regardless of how many siblings you have.
FACT: Or if you have 2 parents and 4 siblings not counting the graduate as a sibling you have exhausted the rationed tickets given. Regardless if you have grandparents.
FACT: Keep in mind we have families here that in fact were not raised by their blood mother or blood father.
FACT: All scenarios exclude anyone else regardless of relationship blood or otherwise.
FACT: Allowing each senior to allocate additional tickets at best confirms, that someone loses out. And this process is not wholly fair. This also leads to a myriad of other dynamics within the social interaction of each person.
FACT: Allocating additional tickets at best confirms, that someone loses out. And no process is wholly fair. First come first served is least fair. Other dynamics factor in.
FACT: to be continued
March 19, 2007 10:24 PM
I agree said...
THAT TAKES THE PROVERBIAL “CAKE”!
INPUT FROM ONLY A CHOSEN FEW OR WHO YELLED THE LOUDEST!
NOT EVERYONE WAS ALLOWED TO VOTE OR GIVE ANY INPUT!
DISTRICT’S EGO IS HURT BECAUSE THEY WERE BOOED LAST YEAR!
NO WONDER THEY WERE BOOED!
DECISION TO CHANGE JUST HAPPENED AND NOT EVERYONE KNOWS ABOUT IT, I JUST GOT AN EMAIL TODAY!??
WHAT IS UP WITH THAT, I NEVER GOT THE MEMO?
PLANS HAVE ALREADY BEEN MADE!
DISTRICT IS NOW USING THE WE ALREADY SIGNED THE CONTRACT EXCUSE!
I OWN A PAPER SHREDDER!
10,000 PEOPLE THAT WANT TO BE THERE CAN’T BE THERE!
ANNOUNCEMENTS STILL HAVE “THE PIT” ON THEM, THAT IS BEYOND TACKY, THAT IS RIGHT ABOVE B. S. IN MY BOOK!
LAST I CHECKED WE LIVE IN AMERICA!
WE HAVE RIGHTS, HERE!
IF THE DISCTRICT GETS AWAY WITH THIS SMOKE AND MIRRORS JOB, WE HAVE ALL JUST WITNESSED A CRIME!
OH MY GOODNESS GRACIOUS, THESE PEOPLE HAVE HAD AUTHORITY OVER OUR KIDS!
I AM FURIOUS!!!
I ALSO WANTED TO THANK ALL OF YOU THAT PUT THE BLOG TOGETHER YOU REALLY DID A GREAT JOB I WILL PASS IT ON!
I WOULD LIKE TO WRITE HOW I REALLY FEEL BUT I THINK YOU WOULD NOT WANT TO HAVE SUCH ANGER, RAGE, PROFANITY IN YOUR NICE WEBSITE!
WILLIAM
March 19, 2007 10:32 PM
this too said...
Dr. Cleveland and Mr. VonAncken, I fully support you and respect all that you have to deal with, I am all the way on your side.
But I am motivated to write this to let you know that the way this entire matter was processed is absolutely wrong.
I think someone already wrote to allow everyone to have a say and that actually is the right way and is the way it has to be.
If we let this slide then who knows what will be next? It is too important and too many people are affected.
Yeah, I whole lot of people were booed last year and I did not agree with that. The only thing I will point out is we here in Rio Rancho are TOUGH! The graduation last year went on too long, people were getting restless and well, mad. If you think downsizing will help, well then you have not learned from last year. I have seen first hand what just 20 people can do if they choose to get rowdy. The Pit has had graduations since forever. There are many more things that fostered that and RRPS needs to take a good look at themselves in the mirror and that is actually the truth.
I did not agree with what happened at last year's graduation. But I sure don't agree with all of this.
It smells like, money as in kickbacks, or politics, or stupidity is driving this. What else could it be? Either someone is benefiting, or someone with power has an agenda, or you are deaf, dumb and blind? My apologies for being so blunt, but let us call it what it truly is. It is one of the three, or two of the three, or it is all three. If you stop and ask yourself why are we doing this hopefully you will find the answer.
I sincerely ask because what you are imposing and how you are imposing it is "DEAD WRONG". "I see said the blind man."
Additionally, if you would have had 4500 persons from last year’s graduation at the Star center, you would have still been booed. Consider that? Downsizing is not your problem. But what concerns me is with these shenanigans that you now refuse to bend on have only severely added to your woes.
Thanks for your time, and GO BACK TO THE PIT,
Ben
March 19, 2007 10:42 PM
hi to kay, but jerry said...
Great Kay!
Glad you found the web.
RRPS, hi.
Well you really did it this time didn't you? You moved the graduation. You never asked me. You only let certain people contact you and let you know what they wanted. Then you did what they wanted. And what you wanted. But you never asked me. Or Kay. Or actually anyone I know. An editorial in the Albuquerque Journal said that “many” more people wanted it at the star center? How could the editor know that? I never heard you took a poll or a vote? I’d like to put this to a vote right now. You know we stood a better chance if we flipped a coin. Then we had a 50/50 chance. This way we had 0 chance. Not good odds huh? Well back to the editor saying “many” more people wanted it changed. He must have heard that from you. He sure did not hear that from me. For sure if this was true you would have stated that first. Because that would have been an important piece of information huh? Well, I am willing to bet you a coke you are wrong and the editor is wrong. I bet you both more parents want this to “go back to the pit” (wow we have to quote that phrase now)!
Man, I going to win 2 cokes!
Yours truly,
Jerry
(not with Dean and not with Ben, just Jerry)
Hey, I’m referring to Dean Martin and Ben the ice cream dude.
March 19, 2007 11:08 PM
fundraiser said...
As a senior at Rio Rancho, I would like to have the graduation moved back to University Arena.
I have a large family – some of which are flying overseas to attend – that have bought tickets and now cannot attend.
If funds are an issue, why can’t the school have a fundraiser?
Take our graduation back to the PIT
C
March 20, 2007 10:01 AM
Carol said...
BACK TO THE PIT NOW
OR
LET PARENTS VOTE NOW
March 20, 2007 10:09 AM
cancel said...
Hello
I am writing RRPS and asking that you cancel the contract and go back to the UNM PIT
thank you.
Liz
March 20, 2007 10:28 AM
ray said...
In support of returning the graduation to the Pit.
thank you
March 20, 2007 11:01 AM
K said...
Note: RRPS received my comment at the very beginning when this all started - and before any contracts were signed!
The decision to move the 2007 graduation was handled improperly and was the wrong decision. Parents should have been surveyed prior to the decision. Please let me know who was responsible for this decision. The current class sizes are too large to try to graduate anywhere smaller than the Pit. My wife and I have 5 children, one of which graduates this year. My parents, who have already bought airline tickets from Ohio, my wife's parent's and a couple sisters plan to attend just like the past two years. Who do I get to leave home with my allotment of six tickets? I know there will be many other people in the same situation. Do you really expect people to return their six tickets? The only chance I have of letting my family share the occasion is to find some friend who isn't using all of their tickets. I highly recommend you reconsider the decision and keep the Pit location while you still can.
March 20, 2007 11:11 AM
Paul said...
Consider this response as support for your efforts to returen our graduation to The Pit.
We agree with everything written here.
We will ask others to do the same
Paul
March 20, 2007 12:27 PM
amazing said...
It is truly is amazing what you can get done on the world wide web.
I came across this site as I was doing a search. We like that other families in Rio Rancho feel the same way as we do. Our family is asking those in charge to have the graduation at the location we were always told it would be. We have told our freind about this. Pass it on to everyone you know.
Oscar
March 20, 2007 12:32 PM
henry said...
HALLELUJAH
IT IS ABOUT TIME WE CHALLENGE THIS HUGE PROBLEM
GO BACK TO THE PIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
HENRY
March 20, 2007 12:48 PM
Nana said...
HALLELUJAH
IT IS ABOUT TIME WE CHALLENGE THIS HUGE PROBLEM
GO BACK TO THE PIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
NANA
March 20, 2007 1:00 PM
Jenny said...
HALLELUJAH
IT IS ABOUT TIME WE CHALLENGE THIS HUGE PROBLEM
GO BACK TO THE PIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
JENNY
March 20, 2007 1:01 PM
gloria said...
HALLELUJAH
IT IS ABOUT TIME WE CHALLENGE THIS HUGE PROBLEM
GO BACK TO THE PIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
GLORIA
March 20, 2007 1:02 PM
go back said...
HALLELUJAH
IT IS ABOUT TIME WE CHALLENGE THIS HUGE PROBLEM
GO BACK TO THE PIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Mel
March 20, 2007 1:02 PM
Art said...
HALLELUJAH
IT IS ABOUT TIME WE CHALLENGE THIS HUGE PROBLEM
GO BACK TO THE PIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Art
March 20, 2007 1:03 PM
Jill said...
HALLELUJAH
IT IS ABOUT TIME WE CHALLENGE THIS HUGE PROBLEM
GO BACK TO THE PIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
JILL
March 20, 2007 1:04 PM
support said...
HALLELUJAH
IT IS ABOUT TIME WE CHALLENGE THIS HUGE PROBLEM
GO BACK TO THE PIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
GWEN
March 20, 2007 1:04 PM
augie said...
HALLELUJAH
IT IS ABOUT TIME WE CHALLENGE THIS HUGE PROBLEM
GO BACK TO THE PIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Augie
March 20, 2007 1:08 PM
i hope this works said...
HALLELUJAH
IT IS ABOUT TIME WE CHALLENGE THIS HUGE PROBLEM
GO BACK TO THE PIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Janelle
March 20, 2007 1:37 PM
parents said...
HALLELUJAH
IT IS ABOUT TIME WE CHALLENGE THIS HUGE PROBLEM
GO BACK TO THE PIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
MANNY
March 20, 2007 2:13 PM
steve said...
HALLELUJAH
IT IS ABOUT TIME WE CHALLENGE THIS HUGE PROBLEM
GO BACK TO THE PIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Steve
March 20, 2007 2:32 PM
100% support said...
I just received this email and support this call to action 100%
I will also share this with EVERYONE I know.
HALLELUJAH
IT IS ABOUT TIME WE CHALLENGE THIS HUGE PROBLEM
GO BACK TO THE PIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WAYNE
March 20, 2007 3:54 PM
Anonymous said...
What about the extended family memebers from out of state that have already booked plane tickets? Your telling the parents sorry pick and choose your favorites who cares if feelings are hurt. That is crazy! The graduation should be moved back to The Pit so every family member that wants to be there can attend!!
March 20, 2007 3:57 PM
amy s said...
HALLELUJAH!!!!!!!!
IT IS ABOUT TIME WE CHALLENGE THIS HUGE PROBLEM
GO BACK TO THE PIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Amy S
March 20, 2007 3:58 PM
Connie said...
HALLELUJAH
IT IS ABOUT TIME WE CHALLENGE THIS HUGE PROBLEM
GO BACK TO THE PIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
CONNIE
March 20, 2007 4:00 PM
Brenda said...
HALLELUJAH
IT IS ABOUT TIME WE CHALLENGE THIS HUGE PROBLEM
GO BACK TO THE PIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
BRENDA and family
March 20, 2007 4:03 PM
dave said...
HALLELUJAH
IT IS ABOUT TIME WE CHALLENGE THIS HUGE PROBLEM
GO BACK TO THE PIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
DAVE
March 20, 2007 4:05 PM
dan the man said...
HALLELUJAH
IT IS ABOUT TIME WE CHALLENGE THIS HUGE PROBLEM
GO BACK TO THE PIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
DAN
March 20, 2007 4:09 PM
Bill said...
HALLELUJAH
IT IS ABOUT TIME WE CHALLENGE THIS HUGE PROBLEM
GO BACK TO THE PIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
BILL
March 20, 2007 4:12 PM
mike said...
HALLELUJAH
IT IS ABOUT TIME WE CHALLENGE THIS HUGE PROBLEM
GO BACK TO THE PIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
MIKE
March 20, 2007 4:14 PM
family said...
HALLELUJAH
IT IS ABOUT TIME WE CHALLENGE THIS HUGE PROBLEM
GO BACK TO THE PIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
BRIAN & family
March 20, 2007 4:31 PM
frank said...
FACT: The school personnel decision, imposition, requirement and mandate willfully and knowingly prohibits aunts, uncles, cousins, in-laws and generations of living relatives from attending the graduation. Depending upon the size of the family and who uses the 6 available tickets.
March 20, 2007 4:41 PM
Craig said...
I want my family to see me graduate and 6 tickets won’t be enough.
Rio Rancho schools needs to re-think their decision!
Return to the PIT!
Or allow parents and seniors to vote.
March 20, 2007 4:46 PM
j. b. said...
I support returning the graduation to The Pit.
J. B.
March 20, 2007 4:50 PM
kevin said...
I support returning the graduation to The Pit.
March 20, 2007 4:51 PM
howard said...
I support returning the graduation to The Pit.
March 20, 2007 4:52 PM
chris said...
I support returning the graduation to The Pit.
March 20, 2007 4:52 PM
joy said...
I support returning the graduation to The Pit.
March 20, 2007 5:06 PM
Karen said...
I support returning the graduation to The Pit.
March 20, 2007 5:07 PM
sheldon said...
I support returning the graduation to The Pit.
March 20, 2007 5:07 PM
Marcy said...
We agree with this PETITION to return the 2007 graduation back to the PIT.
March 20, 2007 5:29 PM
GLADYS said...
WE SUPPORT THE PETITION
March 20, 2007 5:32 PM
crazy said...
What about the extended family memebers from out of state that have already booked plane tickets?
Your telling the parents sorry pick and choose your favorites who cares if feelings are hurt.
That is crazy!
The graduation should be moved back to The Pit so every family member that wants to be there can attend!!
March 20, 2007 5:34 PM
Terry said...
The Largest Graduating Class in Rio Rancho history and the largest Class in the state.
To place the largest Class in a smaller venue is not a well thought out plan at this late notice no matter what the logic.
March 20, 2007 5:35 PM
Tammi said...
I want to thank everyone involve in making the BLOG accessible.
We agree with everything place here.
Thanks again
Tammi
March 20, 2007 5:37 PM
Penny said...
HOOOAAAAH!
We support Back to the PIT
March 20, 2007 5:38 PM
Rod said...
Wow, this is really awesome!
We love it!!
GO RAMS
YES GO BACK TO THE PIT AGAIN!!
YOU DID ROCK THE PIT!
March 20, 2007 5:41 PM
simon says said...
“BACK TO THE PIT
FAMILY AND FRIENDS OF RIO RANCHO HIGH SCHOOL GRADUATES DISCUSSION GROUP”
After reading your blogs, newspaper stories, and the koat newscast we are behind you.
Dr. Cleveland we want this graduation at THE PIT, thank you.
March 20, 2007 7:35 PM
Phyliss said...
“BACK TO THE PIT
FAMILY AND FRIENDS OF RIO RANCHO HIGH SCHOOL GRADUATES DISCUSSION GROUP”
BRAVO!
Rio Rancho Schools we want this graduation at THE PIT, thank you.
March 20, 2007 7:42 PM
Terrance said...
"An editor and the administration all referred to the “many” that wanted this, what is the problem with putting this to a vote, right now? You will all find out the actual “many” want this event at “The Pit”. Our Seniors will have to revert back to their grade school days, you print up what 750 notes home with 2 boxes to check on the note - “The Pit” or no “Pit”, parents and guardians along with each Senior will vote. Unlike the decree that has been imposed upon everyone, where only a certain “many” voices were heard and acted on, simply, that decision that act in itself is so wrong and so very unfair, this is America right? (The school Board is supposed to uphold the Constitution of the United States, just ask them). Make sure you number each one of these notes that way they can be counted fairly. Add a few lines so the Graduate and their Parent/Guardian can print and sign. If you have a better idea, wonderful as long as the vote process is fair. If the vote comes back no “Pit”, then the editor, the administration and the so called “many” had a finger on the pulse and IF the vote comes back “The Pit” then Hallelujah! Times a wastin’!"
March 20, 2007 7:43 PM
Quinn said...
I have heard and seen some bad things here in Rio Rancho schools. The best thing that could happen is to return the graduation to the Pit.
Quinn
March 20, 2007 8:45 PM
jen said...
Our family supports the petition to return to the Pit.
Jen
March 20, 2007 8:46 PM
ron said...
Dr. Cleveland please come back to your senses, for goodness sake they are naming a school after you, show some basic human compassion and fairness here!
Ron
March 20, 2007 8:46 PM
emily said...
No vote, no input, no choice, no time to cancel family coming in from out of town, only a chosen few were allowed to complain about the last graduation. Then no Star center. Go back to The Pit.
Emily
March 20, 2007 8:47 PM
irene said...
We would like to contribute to this blog and ask that you change your decision. We know it is not too late and you can cancel the so called contract.
Irene
March 20, 2007 8:48 PM
marvin said...
I agree with the petition and would like to vote to go back to the UNM Pit.
Marvin
March 20, 2007 8:48 PM
charles said...
Families and graduates have been discriminated against, not everyone was allowed to have a voice in this decision. It was highly one sided. Go back to the Pit.
Charles
March 20, 2007 8:49 PM
fact said...
I am a Hispanic-Latino, Anglo American woman.
This decision is DISCRIMINATORY:
FACT: Class grade level seniors, young women and young men were scheduled to graduate from high school by a set location determined by date and time, at the original venue, which is the University of New Mexico Arena also known as The Pit.
FACT: Rio Rancho School personnel did willfully and knowingly change the original venue to the Star center owned by the Santa Ana casino with two (2) months remaining in the school year.
FACT: The school personnel decision, imposition, requirement and mandate willfully and knowingly impedes families with a specific amount of children, parents, grandparents and alienates and excludes each of them from this public event where you are not monetarily charged to attend but you are allowed entry by rationed tickets only.
FACT: The school personnel decision, imposition, requirement and mandate willfully and knowingly prohibits aunts, uncles, cousins, in-laws and generations of living relatives from attending the graduation. Dependent upon the size of the family and who uses the 6 available tickets.
FACT: The school personnel decision, imposition, requirement and mandate willfully and knowingly prohibits any persons that have been deemed friend from attending the graduation. Dependent upon the size of the family and who uses the 6 available tickets.
FACT: The school personnel decision, imposition, requirement and mandate venue change from said, UNM Arena to the Star center assists in this impeding, dismissal and exclusion of persons.
FACT: The venue change occurred as told by school personnel, when unnamed “persons” asked, complained and insisted said change occur. Exact time frame is undetermined.
FACT: An undetermined “many” persons superseded the one hundred percent availability of any input from the rest of all other persons directly affected by this willful change of venue.
FACT: School personnel admit to willfully and knowingly understand and stated they considered the entire matter affecting everyone! Thus confirming their complete negligence and ignorance of the seriousness of the matter.
FACT: No votes were cast formally or informally by one hundred percent of all persons affected. School personnel both willfully and knowingly did not utilize this method and tool.
FACT: No poll or other data was investigated and analyzed formally or informally by one hundred percent of all persons affected. School personnel both willfully and knowingly did not utilize this method and tool.
FACT: School personnel both willfully and knowingly did impose, require and mandate all actions causing an undetermined amount of persons to be adversely affected, emotionally, psychologically and financially. Contrary to the pursuit of happiness.
FACT: Said discrimination affects directly and indirectly both genders, all ages and all races.
FACT: An actual count of each nationality will determine which nationalities are affected and to what degree.
FACT: Your immediate family is absolutely penalized by the amount of persons in your household or related by blood. Example if you have 4 living grandparents and 2 parents you have exhausted the rationed amount of tickets given. Regardless of how many siblings you have.
FACT: Or if you have 2 parents and 4 siblings not counting the graduate as a sibling you have exhausted the rationed tickets given. Regardless if you have grandparents.
FACT: Keep in mind we have families here that in fact were not raised by their blood mother or blood father.
FACT: All scenarios exclude anyone else regardless of relationship by blood or otherwise.
FACT: Allowing each senior to allocate additional tickets at best confirms, that someone loses out. And this process is not wholly fair. This also leads to a myriad of other dynamics within the social interaction of each person.
FACT: Allocating additional tickets at best confirms, that someone loses out. And no process is wholly fair. First come first served is least fair. Other dynamics factor in.
FACT: to be continued
March 21, 2007 5:05 AM
natalie said...
I am very impressed!
Count us in!
Fair Vote by parents or go back to THE PIT
March 21, 2007 5:18 AM
Anthony said...
Like the songs says:
"WE'RE NOT GONNA TAKE
no, We Ain't Gonna Take It
oh We're Not Gonna Take It Anymore
we've Got The Right To Choose And
there Ain't No Way We'll Lose It
this Is Our Life, This Is Our Song
we'll Fight The Powers That Be Just
don't Pick Our Destiny 'cause
you Don't Know Us, You Don't Belong
"
We agree to return the graduation BACK TO THE PIT!
BACK TO THE PIT!
BACK TO THE PIT!
I read the different remarks and this song came to mind
March 21, 2007 5:27 AM
BACK TO THE PIT! said...
BACK TO THE PIT!
it is that simple......
Jennifer
March 21, 2007 5:28 AM
ditto said...
BACK TO THE PIT!
it is that simple
Pat
March 21, 2007 5:40 AM
so simple said...
BACK TO THE PIT!
it is so simple
Laura
March 21, 2007 5:53 AM
simple simon said...
YEAAHH!
nice blog web!
BACK TO THE PIT!
it is so simple
Carla
March 21, 2007 6:42 AM
Jim said...
BACK TO THE PIT!
it is so simple
March 21, 2007 6:43 AM
Glen said...
BACK TO THE PIT!
it is so simple
March 21, 2007 7:07 AM
Ted said...
BACK TO THE PIT!
it is so simple
March 21, 2007 7:14 AM
Clifford said...
What RRPS and staff did was WRONG!
No input
No vote
No say
No way
BACK TO THE PIT!
it is so simple
it really is!
March 21, 2007 7:28 AM
Lisa said...
BACK TO THE PIT!
it is so simple
we agree
March 21, 2007 7:30 AM
Archie said...
WE want our family, grandparents and relatives and friends to see the graduation and 6 tickets won’t be enough!
Rio Rancho needs to re-think their decision!
Return to the PIT!
March 21, 2007 7:46 AM
Johnny said...
I want my family to see me graduate and 6 tickets won’t be enough! Rio Rancho needs to go back to the pit.
March 21, 2007 8:03 AM
06 Parent said...
YES the district should have come up with a variety of options and make them available to the public, obtain feedback and base the decision on that feedback in combination with sound financial decisions (as well as access, parking, etc.). YES the timing should have been better. YES the district has not given the public a voice. YES it should probably be moved back to the PIT for this year's graduation.
BUT, as a parent of a student who graduated last year, I have to say that the behavior of the parents at the graduation ceremony was absolutely embarrassing, intolerable, and would've prompted almost any administration to call off graduation the next year and mail out diplomas (which they have the right to do...graduation ceremonies are conducted as a way to celebrate the graduates...it is not a mandatory event). I saw entire family groups booing administration and staff when their names were called, entire family groups getting up and leaving in a very disruptive and rude fashion right in the middle of the processional call, and more. By comparison, the students were amazingly well behaved, and I was embarrassed for my son and his friends who demonstrated maturity far exceeding that of many of the parents in the audience.
I understand the district trying to change the "venue" in an attempt to bring a semblance of order and dignity back to the graduation ceremony. Granted, not everyone should pay for last year's badly behaved parents, but I just want everyone in this blog to have a bit more of the whole picture.
I'm still in support of moving graduation back to the PIT, but eventually, a Rio Rancho-based graduation will be happening and parents need to decide if those proceedings will be conducted with the dignity, respect and seriousness that everyone is expecting and calling for in this blog.
March 21, 2007 8:04 AM
Jarrod said...
BACK TO THE PIT TODAY
March 21, 2007 9:12 AM
To 06 Parent said...
Hello 06 Parent,
Thank you, for the information regarding what happened last year.
Thank you for sharing that.
I respect your points of view and would ask others to add to what they also observed. I believe there are some blogs here that also mentioned their observations from last year.
Wrong is wrong regarding what you observed from last year.
We are willing to do ANYTHING to assist RRPS in not having the same bad behavior for 2007.
We are willing to pay for extra security. Whatever is asked we are willing to do.
We have parents willing to pay for the entire cost of The Pit, that is how serious it is!
We are very glad you see our concerns as well.
Wrong is wrong and what the administration has done for 2007 is very wrong.
Let that be there emphasis, "GO BACK TO THE PIT"
and state, we will not return to The Pit if we have a dejavu of 06!
If EVERYONE voted and this changed occurred, that is different. But as we know that was not allowed, and that is very WRONG.
Honestly, this was not at all fair. You CANNOT punish 06 for 07.
One parent wrote if I punish one son for what his brother did they would always be grounded!
Our big push right now is:
Tear up the contract and let us know what the cost is to do that.
GO BACK TO THE PIT.
Or
Let families with graduating seniors have a FAIR vote.
They are stalling right now this is going to get very ugly, people have every right to call them on this one, quoting - “THIS IS AMERICA”.
The administration is using their energy in the wrong direction.
They need to do the right thing not the wrong thing.
Also, FYI: 08 wants the graduation at The Pit. Just watch.
06 Parent, if you know anyone that wants this graduation to “GO BACK TO THE PIT” please forward this blog web to them.
We truly appreciate you sharing.
Yours truly,
Tony
What 06 Parent said...
YES the district should have come up with a variety of options and make them available to the public, obtain feedback and base the decision on that feedback in combination with sound financial decisions (as well as access, parking, etc.). YES the timing should have been better. YES the district has not given the public a voice. YES it should probably be moved back to the PIT for this year's graduation.
BUT, as a parent of a student who graduated last year, I have to say that the behavior of the parents at the graduation ceremony was absolutely embarrassing, intolerable, and would've prompted almost any administration to call off graduation the next year and mail out diplomas (which they have the right to do...graduation ceremonies are conducted as a way to celebrate the graduates...it is not a mandatory event). I saw entire family groups booing administration and staff when their names were called, entire family groups getting up and leaving in a very disruptive and rude fashion right in the middle of the processional call, and more. By comparison, the students were amazingly well behaved, and I was embarrassed for my son and his friends who demonstrated maturity far exceeding that of many of the parents in the audience.
I understand the district trying to change the "venue" in an attempt to bring a semblance of order and dignity back to the graduation ceremony. Granted, not everyone should pay for last year's badly behaved parents, but I just want everyone in this blog to have a bit more of the whole picture.
I'm still in support of moving graduation back to the PIT, but eventually, a Rio Rancho-based graduation will be happening and parents need to decide if those proceedings will be conducted with the dignity, respect and seriousness that everyone is expecting and calling for in this blog.
March 21, 2007 10:10 AM
Leroy to the 06 parent said...
Thank you 06 Parent
"YES the district should have come up with a variety of options and make them available to the public, obtain feedback and base the decision on that feedback in combination with sound financial decisions (as well as access, parking, etc.). YES the timing should have been better. YES the district has not given the public a voice. YES it should probably be moved back to the PIT for this year's graduation."
March 21, 2007 10:15 AM
Donnie said...
kudos to the 06 Parent!!
thank you.
pass it on!!!
March 21, 2007 10:21 AM
To the 06 parent, thank you said...
Hello 06 parent,
Thank you, if possible please email me at cmj2nc@aol.com
I had some questions about last year that would take up too much time blogging you with all the traffic.
Thank you,
March 21, 2007 11:38 AM
Hector said...
Sorry if I am late,
better late then never, right?
Well anyway, everything that needs to be said has been said.
Some great stuff here, thank you for doing this, thank you, thank you.
We are parents that were glad to find out the graduation was going to be in town.
BUT!!!
Not how it has been illegally enforced!!
Has someone consulted an attorney?
I will email you some good ones.
GO BACK TO THE PIT
I do believe this is DISCRIMINATION and we should hold those responsible for this major problem.
Don’t let them off the hook.
That all folks…
Hector
March 21, 2007 11:52 AM
Paul said...
quoting Chris B
"back, back, back, back, back"
to the PIT!!!
March 21, 2007 12:11 PM
Clay said...
100% in support
March 21, 2007 2:49 PM
Nicole said...
Our Graduate’s Graduation announcements and keep in mind as well as numerous other families’ announcements were ordered with the understanding the Graduation would be at “The Pit”. Had we known the location would be changed this would have influenced our purchase of these announcements and the amount needed.
Why would we have wasted money on announcements that are inviting many people to an event they can’t go to? Most of the tickets are going only to immediate family. People with large families and a large network are penalized. Not so at “The Pit” venue.
“The announcements do say The Pit, however, there is an insert being done for the new location with a map”. This is the exact quote by Jostens, the business doing our announcements; we have requested that they provide us with a full refund, as we will cancel this order. We are encouraging others to do likewise.
March 21, 2007 3:02 PM
Lucy said...
Oh now you tell me when we already invited close family. This is not right. Count us it too.
March 21, 2007 3:11 PM
Kurt said...
Back to THE PIT NOW!!
March 21, 2007 3:34 PM
lewis said...
2006 graduate family supports the class of 2007
RRPS is dead wrong
March 21, 2007 3:40 PM
CORKY said...
EXCELLENT BLOG WE SALUTE YOU!!!
MAN, WE AGREE WITH EVERYTHING, WE NEED TO GET AN ATTORNEY ON THIS I KNOW SOME ALSO.
IT SURE IS NICE TO GET OTHERS INVOLVED, THERE IS STUFF HERE WE DID NOT EVEN REALIZE.
THEY ARE TRYING TO PULL THE WOOL OVER OUR EYES.
WE CANNOT LET THEM GETAWAY WITH THIS ONE.
SORRY IF I AM LATE TO THE DANCE.
CORKY
PS: THE ANNOUNCEMENTS SUCK!!
March 21, 2007 4:08 PM
lucy said...
Oh now you tell me when we already invited close family.
This is not right.
Count us ALL in too.
March 21, 2007 4:10 PM
Bernard said...
and the hits just keep on coming!!!
chant:
"Pit"
"Pit"
"Pit"
"Pit"
"Pit"
"Pit"
"Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit"
March 21, 2007 4:19 PM
i "PIT"y the fool said...
Hey Bernard we're with you......
"Pit"
"Pit"
"Pit"
"Pit"
"Pit"
"Pit"
"Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit"
"Pit"
"Pit"
"Pit"
"Pit"
"Pit"
"Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit"
March 21, 2007 4:23 PM
hombre said...
No the "blogs" just keep on comin"
Hey Bernard we're with you too......
all the children said,
"Pit"
"Pit"
"Pit"
"Pit"
"Pit"
"Pit"
"Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit"
"Pit""Pit""Pit"
"Pit"
"Pit"
"Pit"
"Pit"
"Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit"
March 21, 2007 4:26 PM
Ethan said...
who is Bernard and what is this chant he started?
it is Contagious
"Pit"
"Pit"
"Pit"
i "PIT"y the fool
i "PIT"y the foo
i "PIT"y the high school
i "PIT"y the fools at the high school
March 21, 2007 4:30 PM
Dick said...
funny guys and gals funny..
lets get serious now....
"Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit"
faster now.......
"Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit
slower now.....
"Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit
now the tall people......
"Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit
ok, this is fun.....
"Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit
March 21, 2007 4:35 PM
Bernard's wife said...
Alright already!!!
cool it.
RRPS will not take us serious.
We really need to
go back to the
"Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit"
Look what you started Bernard!
March 21, 2007 4:50 PM
Ema said...
Chain reaction
"Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit
Good deal, we support everyone here blogging along.
When the red red robin starts blog blog blogging along,
along.....
Seriously, RRPS we really want you to change your mind, thank you.
For the sake of thousands of people that want to go.
and to the 06 Parent, thank you.
I was there, we like you also behaved.
Go Back to the PIT please.
March 21, 2007 4:55 PM
Thanks Bernard said...
"Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit
We would like to respectfully request that Dr. Sue Cleveland come to her senses and return the class of 2007 back to the Pit.
We know you can cancel the contract and we know you can change your mind.
What you are doing is very wrong and it is discrimination.
You cannot do this when clearly you have not asked everyone affected.
Someone with courage at RRPS needs to stand up and stop this.
Chant again:
"Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit
Thanks Bernard,
Rachel
March 21, 2007 5:01 PM
Veronica to the 06 parent said...
Thank you very much 06 Parent
well worded.
"YES the district should have come up with a variety of options and make them available to the public, obtain feedback and base the decision on that feedback in combination with sound financial decisions (as well as access, parking, etc.). YES the timing should have been better. YES the district has not given the public a voice. YES it should probably be moved back to the PIT for this year's graduation."
March 21, 2007 5:06 PM
Helen said...
Thank you 06 Parent
"YES the district should have come up with a variety of options and make them available to the public, obtain feedback and base the decision on that feedback in combination with sound financial decisions (as well as access, parking, etc.). YES the timing should have been better. YES the district has not given the public a voice. YES it should probably be moved back to the PIT for this year's graduation."
March 21, 2007 5:18 PM
Bernard Rocks, thanks said...
Hello Bernard,
thank you for the catchy chant:
"Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit"
Pass it on to everyone you know!!
Victoria
March 21, 2007 5:21 PM
Jackie said...
“BACK TO THE PIT
FAMILY AND FRIENDS OF RIO RANCHO HIGH SCHOOL GRADUATES DISCUSSION GROUP”
After reading your blogs, newspaper stories, and the Koat newscast we are behind you.
Dr. Cleveland we want this graduation at THE PIT, thank you.
"Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit"
Jackie
March 21, 2007 5:26 PM
Judy said...
"Can't we all just get along"
and Go Back to The Pit??!!
March 21, 2007 6:53 PM
Jason said...
We support returning to The Pit
March 21, 2007 7:15 PM
Gordon said...
Hello all Bloggers.
Great stuff here.
This is awesome.
We are glad someone had the moxy to let them know we really care.
We support everyone here all the way.
I will email you direct let me know how else we can help.
We will pass this on too.
Gordon
March 21, 2007 8:00 PM
Al said...
AWESOME!
I just read about this site in the RR Observer!
This is outstanding.
I agree:
Go back to The Pit, because it is the RIGHT thing to do.
OR
Put it to a fair vote period and you will have all your answers and problems solved and then you did what you should have done in the first place.
It really is that simple.
Wise up, or forget about the "money and the contract", or tell who is ever driving this you won't do it, you won't do thousands of people and children wrong.
March 21, 2007 9:27 PM
samantha said...
http://129.24.2.119/fbonline5/calendar.asp?filter=&month=5&day=19&year=2007&x=14&y=6
Please paste this info into your browser, or you might be able to click on it, the original Graduation date of 5/19 is still open.
We can still return to “The Pit”.
RRPS, regarding your decision to change this year’s Graduation to the center.
The Rio Rancho High School Agenda Book clearly states the Graduation will be at “The Pit”.
This is what we used to plan out this important event in our Child’s life.
March 21, 2007 9:31 PM
blog on said...
Oh my,
I really like your blogspot.
We support everyone rising to this task, blog on & go back to the PIT Rio Rancho, NM!
"THINK ABOUT THIS!!!
Everyone here has a good point but really, really think about this:
Driving to; Parking; Leaving; Driving home!
How much traffic comes in and out of the pit when you are at an event?
But at least there you have 4 different ways to get in and out and a new 4 lane freeway to get in and out, so by the time to get home if you live in Rio Rancho or on the west side is maybe about a half an hour or so, not bad.
At the Santa Ana, with 700 to 750 students, which at least three fourths and more will be driving themselves, since they have to be there 2 hours early. Or their parents will be driving them. Plus school staff and Santa Ana staff that have to get there to prepare. Then all the families will be driving and the other fortunate ones that get to go, so total you are looking at a lot of automobiles driving there all at once. You will have to drive through Rio Rancho to get to a 2 lane road, with ONLY a 1 lane entrance, now that is dangerous! Could and accident occur? Yes! That will not cut down on driving time it will take you longer.
What about the parking?
That too, is going to be a major mess, and will not properly accommodate all of those vehicles. That will also add to the delay before the graduation even starts.
Now when it is time to go home you are looking at all those people and cars trying to get out of an area that has ONLY 1 way out and back to a 2 lane road! Here you are looking at a long wait if you are lucky and with no accidents. If there is an accident it is really going to be a major mess because then everyone heading in that direction will have to wait, do you get the picture?
I’d rather be coming out of the pit with more ways out to help us if something goes wrong, where if God forbid someone gets in an accident, at least you can find a way to turn around or find another road to turn on to.
What if someone gets in an accident coming from or going to the Santa Ana, where are our choices to get out of traffic?
WAIT, there are NONE because there is ONLY 1 way in and 1 way out and it is a 2 lane road with NO turn around area anywhere except when you are on 528 or Northern!!!
TO ALL OF THE OFFICALS WHO CHANGED THIS!!
Start praying no one gets hurt on their way there or the way home because then you will have legal problems to deal with! God forbid a loss of life occurs!
Nobody wants that?!
Better yet change the graduation Back to the Pit and avoid all this.
THINK ABOUT THAT!!!!!!!"
Jasmine
March 21, 2007 9:40 PM
to anonymous said...
To anonymous,
You wrote "posse"
Is that slang from “Bonanza”?
Or what did you mean?
If you joined in late,
The School Board never tabled this matter.
They pointed the finger back to the administration.
So this never was voted on.
We would like this to go the a fair vote,
from parents, guardians and graduating seniors.
So if it stays in “RIO RANCHO” then it stays,
But if it goes back to The PIT then goes back.
That is all that is being asked.
Read the other blogs it will bring you up to date.
See you there
Hope
March 21, 2007 10:44 PM
Ernest said...
PETITION TO GO BACK TO THE PIT
not the center
Ernest
March 21, 2007 10:47 PM
john said...
"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed, by their Creator, with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness."
John
March 21, 2007 10:50 PM
to posse said...
"While the storm clouds gather far across the sea,
Let us swear allegiance to a land that's free,
Let us all be grateful for a land so fair,
As we raise our voices in a solemn prayer.
God Bless America.
Land that I love
Stand beside her, and guide her
Thru the night with a light from above.
From the mountains, to the prairies ,
To the oceans, white with foam
God bless America
My home sweet home."
March 21, 2007 10:56 PM
Michael said...
Many bloggers have asked or stated that this is "America"
and YES we have rights.
"Touché"
"My country, 'tis of Thee,
Sweet Land of Liberty
Of thee I sing;
Land where my fathers died,
Land of the pilgrims' pride,
From every mountain side
Let Freedom ring.
My native country, thee,
Land of the noble free,
Thy name I love;
I love thy rocks and rills,
Thy woods and templed hills,
My heart with rapture thrills
Like that above.
Let music swell the breeze,
And ring from all the trees
Sweet Freedom's song;
Let mortal tongues awake;
Let all that breathe partake;
Let rocks their silence break,
The sound prolong.
Our fathers' God to Thee,
Author of Liberty,
To thee we sing,
Long may our land be bright
With Freedom's holy light,
Protect us by thy might
Great God, our King.
Our glorious Land to-day,
'Neath Education's sway,
Soars upward still.
Its hills of learning fair,
Whose bounties all may share,
Behold them everywhere
On vale and hill!
Thy safeguard, Liberty,
The school shall ever be,
Our Nation's pride!
No tyrant hand shall smite,
While with encircling might
All here are taught the Right
With Truth allied.
Beneath Heaven's gracious will
The stars of progress still
Our course do sway;
In unity sublime
To broader heights we climb,
Triumphant over Time,
God speeds our way!
Grand birthright of our sires,
Our altars and our fires
Keep we still pure!
Our starry flag unfurled,
The hope of all the world,
In peace and light impearled,
God hold secure!"
March 21, 2007 11:02 PM
pitiful said...
Knock! Knock!
who's there?
PIT!
PIT who!
PITiful decision by the school to change the graduation!
March 21, 2007 11:05 PM
bob said...
"Whatever the merits of moving the Rio Rancho High School graduation ceremony to the Santa Ana Star Center in Rio Rancho, the decision should have been made before rather than after families had begun planning.
Extended family members have already made travel plans and requested vacation times in anticipation of attending the ceremony for which they may not now get tickets.
It is apparent there was not enough public deliberation about this issue.
A decision affecting the entire school population should have been discussed publicly so that all voices were heard prior to the decision, particularly since the number of seats available to family and friends of the graduates has been reduced by more than two thirds.
Please join us in moving the graduation ceremony back to The Pit.
Sign the Petition by adding a comment to the open thread on the web log."
We support this blog site
Bob
March 21, 2007 11:33 PM
To anonymous writer said...
Anonymous,
Thanks for your opinion. Whether or not I voted or didn’t vote for a school board member is irrelevant given that the decision to move the graduation ceremony was an administrative decision made after the middle of the year. If you are really the parent of an RRHS graduate then you must have the graduation announcements that say the ceremony will be held at The Pit. Excellent planning--that means we have to stick in that little insert that may as well say “DON’T BOTHER COMING. THERE WILL BE NO ROOM FOR YOU!” By the way, does your conscientious vote for a school board member require you to agree with every position they hold?
If you are truly concerned about parental participation, shouldn’t you be applauding this effort asking the community to become involved in this important event? I’m shocked that you think there’s a restriction on a parent’s right to cry foul at any point in time they feel the need to.
You ask “where does it stop?” Well, I can’t speak for every graduate, but if you have family and friends who have planned to be there for you—to take the time out of their busy lives to mark a milestone with you, than I suppose it would stop at that number. Let’s see: 2 parents + 4 grandparents + 3 brothers and one sister-in-law—that’s 10 already and I’m only counting the immediate family. What about 2 godparents? A favorite aunt and uncle? A best friend who goes to private school? I’m not even including the stepmother or the two ugly stepsisters. I would hardly call these individuals a “posse.”
You should be embarrassed by your own condescending attitude regarding large families. Your use of the term “posse” makes me wonder if you’re a bigot. Do you have a problem with people who have lots of close friends? I wonder if you’re not projecting your own social inadequacies onto those of us who have a lot of folks who we love and include in family gatherings. By your logic Snow White would have to choose among the seven dwarves, the prince, and her fairy godmothers. Oh, wait a minute--it was Sleeping Beauty who had the three fairy godmothers. Four, if you count Maleficent. But, you get my point.
The way I see it, the day is for the graduates to celebrate with the people they love. They have worked hard and earned this celebration. If you have to ask “where does it stop?” —well, I feel sorry for you.
Eve
March 21, 2007 11:44 PM
Snow White said...
OOHH MAN that was good
"my posse's on broadway"
YO, anon,
if you are only taking 4 I need your extra tickets call me
Snow White
March 21, 2007 11:52 PM
Tracy said...
"Those who fail to know their history are doomed to repeat it"
"In every stage of these Oppressions We have Petitioned for Redress in the most humble terms: Our repeated Petitions have been answered only by repeated injury. A Prince whose character is thus marked by every act which may define a Tyrant, is unfit to be the ruler of a free people."
March 22, 2007 12:28 AM
aRT said...
The decision to move graduation is terrible. How does the school believe it is a superior building? It’s smaller and I believe that it was NOWHERE near the University Arena, “The PIT” in a recent list of top venues. The Pit was in the top twenty, number thirteen! Who would want their picture displayed on the widescreens, “The PIT” also has widescreens?
Tradition has always been to hold graduation at “The PIT”. Why break that tradition that’s been with the school – especially at a venue that clearly does not meet all needs.
15,000 seats compared to 4,500 seats – “GO BIG OR STAY HOME”!
March 22, 2007 6:26 AM
7 DWARVES CAN''T GO said...
". . . You should be embarrassed by your own condescending attitude regarding large families.
Your use of the term “posse” makes me wonder if you’re a bigot.
Do you have a problem with people who have lots of close friends?
I wonder if you’re not projecting your own social inadequacies onto those of us who have a lot of folks who we love and include in family gatherings.
By your logic Snow White would have to choose among the seven dwarves, the prince, and her fairy godmothers.
Oh, wait a minute--it was Sleeping Beauty who had the three fairy godmothers.
Four, if you count Maleficent. But, you get my point.
The way I see it, the day is for the graduates to celebrate with the people they love.
They have worked hard and earned this celebration.
If you have to ask “where does it stop?” —well, I feel sorry for you. . ."
March 22, 2007 6:35 AM
BETTY said...
Rio Rancho High School, we agree and support your return the UNM PIT,
Betty
March 22, 2007 6:39 AM
SUE said...
THIS BLOG SPOT REALLY REALLY REALLY IS GREAT KEEP UP THE OUTSTANDING WORK HERE WE ARE SO SO GLAD TO BE ABLE TO HAVE A VOICE IN THIS GIGANTIC MISTAKE AFFECTING OUR CHILDREN OUR FAMILIES OUR COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE
SUSAN
March 22, 2007 6:40 AM
pETER said...
Bobby D said...
"Come writers and critics
Who prophesize with your pen
And keep your eyes wide
The chance won't come again
And don't speak too soon
For the wheel's still in spin
And there's no tellin' who
That it's namin'.
For the loser now
Will be later to win
For the times they are a-changin'."
March 22, 2007 6:42 AM
leonard said...
Please allow the parents the legal guardians and seniors vote. Put this problem to a FAIR vote.
March 22, 2007 6:45 AM
Becky S said...
I want to see my niece graduate at the pit not at a center that sounds a lot like a casino.
Are we going to the casino after the graduation, maybe that is where the staff and board members will be. Heh that is why they changed it, now we can understand their decision better. What were you all thinking!!
March 22, 2007 6:50 AM
jack said...
Herein, confirms that the person or persons involved in making this last minute decision/change did not take into full account all of this information!
If this was not a last minute decision, then why did it take until March 2007 to spring it on us?
Was there a vote?
Was balanced input solicited?
Who, What, When, Where, Why and How did this come about?
Please be respectfully advised that we are not in the minority here, we are in the majority here and absolutely not at all happy with this last minute change!
Lets put it to a vote now.
March 22, 2007 6:52 AM
Brandon said...
I want to see my sister graduate and get her diploma.
But I might have to give my ticket to Grandma so she can go.
Now that is not right.
Please help us get it back to the pit so everyone can go who wants to.
March 22, 2007 7:04 AM
Stunned said...
I just read my Observer
sorry I must have not gotten the memo
WOW, who paid who to get this changed?
Jay
March 22, 2007 7:10 AM
To Sue Cleveland said...
Sue Cleveland, you are going to get sued or have an injunction brought against you.
What comes around will go around.
Honestly, you are a much better person than this big mess.
Here is your time to shine and stop this ordeal.
You have not heard the end of this.
Comment after comment show you never let parents vote.
You only let certain people call in and complain.
There is nothing wrong with that as long as you let everyone state their case.
That has not happened yet.
Have a fair vote or take it back to the PIT.
I am reading between the lines you are trying very hard to do the right thing and keep the graduation safe.
But the way you are handling this mistake will not set well at all.
Listen, just by you going back to the PIT will calm the crowd.
Sue, do the right thing.
Kyle
March 22, 2007 7:33 AM
Gloria said...
My daughter wants all of her family at her graduation.
Mom, dad, sisters, brother, aunts, uncles, grandparents and cousins. That comes to 16!
Don't make her choose who gets to go and who gets to stay home.
We all want to celebrate with her. BACK TO THE PIT!
Graduates and parents should have had a choice, it's our graduation, not the administrations!
March 22, 2007 7:35 AM
jake said...
We heard last year’s Graduation had a rowdy crowd and security was an issue? Please do not penalize the class of 2007 that cannot be blamed for last year.
March 22, 2007 7:38 AM
to art said...
"The Arena"
"The PIT"
"Sports Illustrated's Top-20 Sports Venues of the Century:
In June, 1999, Sports Illustrated listed its top-20 sporting venues of the century and The Pit checked in at No. 13.
“Sports Illustrated in 1999 named The Pit one of the Top 20 sporting venues of the 20th century — a list that includes Yankee Stadium, Wrigley Field, Pebble Beach and Daytona International.
Yeah, that’s big-time company. That’s like being compared to Babe Ruth, Joe Louis, Man O’ War, the Roman Empire, George Washington, Marlon Brando, Katharine Hepburn.
When you make an elite list like that maybe something special had to happen in The Pit above and beyond Lobos basketball.
And it did.”
We support this blog
Max
March 22, 2007 7:42 AM
KOAT wants you to call said...
Please call or email:
Rio Rancho Blog
KOAT is interested in updating our story on your fight to have the
graduation ceremonies moved back to the Pit.
Please write back with contact information or give me a call.
Thanks,
Cary J. Schwanitz
505-884-6324
cschwanitz@hearst.com
March 22, 2007 9:17 AM
to anony said...
Anonymous,
I noticed you didn’t deny being a bigot.
3 in my family.
"Nothing against large families"
qoute you called them "posse"?
I voted and I support the board too, maybe we can share recipes.
This matter never went to the board.
Perhaps they have lost sight of the goal: Do as I say not as I do. Input was not received from everyone.
The ceremony is just the asterik for the 12/13 years of education.
ditto-thanks for playing :-)
March 22, 2007 9:57 AM
Will said...
To anonymous
We heard you.
The board did not have a say in this.
March 22, 2007 11:53 AM
Albuquerque Tribune said...
Please email and call Stephanie:
HI, this is Stephanie from the Albuquerque Tribune. I'd like to speak to someone about this. My number is 823-3609.
Thanks,
Stephanie Garcia Krenrich
sgarciakrenrich@abqtrib.com
March 22, 2007 12:08 PM
PIT said...
Hello everyone,
I am a graduating senior, YEEAAAHH!!!
I have read the blogs.
Several of us seniors really like the idea to have graduation here.
BUT, the way it all came about is so unfair.
So, no disrespect to the school, but we need to have the graduation where we were all told it would be to begin with, at THE PIT.
Thank you.
A O
March 22, 2007 2:01 PM
JL said...
Hello,
I am a graduating senior!!!!
Several of us really like the idea to have graduation here.
BUT, the way it all came about is so unfair!!!
No disrespect to the school, but I agree we need to have the graduation where we were all told it would be to begin with, at THE PIT.
Thank you for your time.
JL
March 22, 2007 2:11 PM
RRPS said...
13 years at RRPS
At the beginning of the year at the Senior Assembly when the Seniors were being told about ordering their cap and gowns and graduation announcements both Mr. Duncan, the activities director and Mr. VonAncken said that the class of 2007 would most likely be the biggest graduating class in New Mexico and in the history of Rio Rancho.
Also, that there are Seniors that have been going to RRPS their whole lives and they would like to do something special about that this year.
It was absolutely clear the venue would be “The Pit” and their would be no limit on people attending.
Therefore, plans, ordering announcements, buying airline tickets, scheduling time off were ALL done prior to this change!
They were well aware of this!
This also means they were well aware that just by the very size of the class graduating would indicate the strong likelihood that potentially more persons would be in attendance then all of the previous graduations!
March 22, 2007 3:11 PM
seniors said...
!!!!!!!!!!!!!ATTENTION SENIORS!!!!!!!!!!!!
· PLEASE CONTACT http://rioranchogradsunite.blogspot.com/ or email: cmj2nc@aol.com TODAY!
· CALL RRPS DISTRICT TODAY IF YOU OR YOUR PARENTS ARE CONCERNED ABOUT GRADUATION BEING CHANGED TO THE SANTA ANA STAR CENTER (896-0667 SUPERINTENDENT & SCHOOL BOARD).
· TELL THEM YOU WANT IT AT “THE PIT”
· IF THEY REALLY WANTED OUT OF THE CONRACT, THEY CAN GET OUT OF THE CONRACT. "NOTHING IS IMPOSSIBLE"
· MAKE SURE YOUR PARENTS KNOW YOUR GRADUATION ANNOUNCEMENTS WILL STILL SAY “THE PIT” ON THE ANNOUNCEMENT BUT THERE WILL BE AN INSERT STATING THE CHANGE (HOW TACKY) YOU CAN STILL GET A REFUND.
· REMEMBER THERE IS ONLY ONE LANE ENTERING AND ONE LANE LEAVING THE CENTER IMAGINE THE MESS FOR BOTH STUDENTS AND PARENTS HAVING TO DRIVE THERE.
· WE SHOULD HAVE A SAY IN WHERE WE WANT TO GRADUATE; REMEMBER SENIORS IN THE WORDS OF OUR PRINCIPAL “THE CHOICE IS YOURS!!!!!!!!!!”
March 22, 2007 5:21 PM
Bruce said...
WHEN YOU ALL OPEN THE OTHER HIGH SCHOOL
THEN YOU CAN HAVE YOUR GRADUATION IN RIO RANCHO
BECAUSE UNTIL THEN
RRHS WILL CONTINUE TO HAVE THE MOST SENIORS GRADUATING YEAR IN AND YEAR OUT
WHO IS KEEPING COUNT?
IF I KNOW THAT HOW IS IT THE ONES RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS SOMEHOW FORGOT THAT?
THAT IS WHY A NEW SCHOOL IS NEEDED RIGHT?
WE FULLY SUPPORT THE HAVE THE GRADUATION AT THE PIT
March 22, 2007 5:30 PM
maggie said...
SERIOUSLY…SIMPLY, WHAT PRICE DO YOU PLACE ON A CELEBRATION OF LOVE AND LIFE?!
THE COST THE SAVINGS THAT MRS. CLEVELAND AND MR. VONANCKEN ALLUDE TO ABSOLUTELY DO NOT OUT WEIGH WHAT WILL BE COMPLETELY LOST!
YES, EVEN TO ATTEMPT TO PLACE A PRICE ON THIS ENTIRE PROCESS, CELEBRATION AND EVENT IS INAPPROPRIATE BECAUSE IT IS TRULY “PRICELESS”!
TO ARGUE THIS IMPORTANT POINT IS IGNORANCE AND…..WELL….VERY WRONG.
March 22, 2007 5:33 PM
francis said...
Save my everyone's sanity!
Please move the Rio Rancho High School graduation ceremony back to The PIT.
Right now!
March 22, 2007 5:35 PM
4 children said...
I am the mother of four children and writing this on behalf of my husband and family.
Our son is graduating and we don't have enough tickets.
Four grandparents, two parents and three siblings comes out to nine guests. Oops, I hope that does not offend anyone!
Someone, was overly concerned about how many children one has?
We are three tickets short.
A person noted earlier that they don't want to shortchange anyone out of a ticket, neither do we.
You are making us choose who will get to go and you are making us cheat someone else from going.
My son has asked for extra tickets and there is none available.
We are asking Dr. Cleveland to allow families and graduates to vote and return this celebration to the Pit.
Thank you,
Julia
March 22, 2007 5:42 PM
i said...
Dr. Cleveland,
This is the Largest Graduating Class in Rio Rancho history and the largest Class in the state.
To place the largest Class in a smaller venue is not a well thought out plan at this late notice no matter what the logic.
It clearly discriminates against person's with "large families" and prohibits anyone else they know from being able to come.
My day really goes by, there is not enough time in the day.
For anyone out of their busy schedule to want to go to a "high school graduation" really wants to go.
Sorry to hear about 06.
Lets not be prejudice here.
If someone wants to go then that is up to them.
Higher extra guards.
Change this back.
Thank you,
Jeremy
March 22, 2007 5:56 PM
bev said...
"BACK TO THE PIT"
OR
Please allow the parents the legal guardians and seniors vote.
Put this problem to a FAIR vote.
Not controlled completely by RRPS.
A FAIR vote.
March 22, 2007 6:13 PM
hugh said...
"A newspaper article stated, 'many' parents called asking to have the graduation changed to the Santa Ana Star owned by the casino/center hockey rink.
There will now be 'many' more parents calling to complain that this was not a well thought out idea.
Per the newspaper a handful of parents requested this?
This does not go over very well for Everyone affected regarding the decision process and the person or persons behind it.
'Many'?
How many was 'many'?
Lets put this to a vote, just do the math if 10,000+ persons can’t attend, then clearly there are 'many' more then the 'many' the administration is stating wanted this change.
Just think about this big mess logically."
March 22, 2007 7:38 PM
Anonymous said...
I am sick and tired of reading the rants and raves of those that write to get over it, obviously they don't have friends and family that they care about. I don't care where they have the graduation as long as there is room for those that wish to attend and not put limits. I am disappointed that the board did not take a vote in all this mess up. I think that they should have saved this for next year or the years to come when there is enough notice to let students and parents know well in advance what is to take place and not just decide to change things 3 months before graduation. Plans have been made and now they expect us to just toss everything out the window. Also all the expense of purchasing there package of all the graduation announcements and other items, most of that stuff is of no use to me I can only send out 1 announcement I can go to Kinko's and make my own announcements that would cost me about 1.00 but I spent 189.00 on this pkg. I would like to know how I can get a refund on this. The more that things happen with graduation the worse it gets, now the students will not get their caps and gowns until the day of graduation. What about wanting to take pictures with cap and gown to send to Friends and family, first they can not attend now we cant send pictures with what they would look like on graduation DAY. I guess the students are also suppose to walk the line in there caps and gowns all wrinkled because they will not have time to press or iron them to look decent. I am so disappointed in this whole mess. We have planned this day for months and waited for years to see our child graduate and take the next step in life but I can honestly say that Rio Rancho High School ruined this for us. I wish I could take this to court and let the RRHS know what they have done to the students and parents that are in my same situation we need our voices heard. very upset in Rio Rancho
March 22, 2007 8:27 PM
M. Warren said...
The Santa Ana Casino owns the Santa Ana Star Center. The casino will reap the profits from the fee for holding the RRHS graduation at the Star Center.
Who would you rather have reap the profit? The Santa Ana Casino? or the University of New Mexico?
March 22, 2007 9:28 PM
Anonymous said...
Mr. Warren,
The Santa Ana Star bought the NAMING RIGHTS, not the center. The casino won't gain a dime from graduation. Read your newspaper, you are uninformed.
March 22, 2007 9:35 PM
happy my kid is graduating said...
See http://www.nmbiz.com/06-09Sept/24.htm for the straight skinny on who owns the "Star".
March 22, 2007 9:45 PM
did anyone like? said...
did anyone like that "knock knock" joke?
March 22, 2007 10:01 PM
Homestar Runner & red rabbit said...
By the way, if you click on this link, you will see the list of corporate partners of The Santa Ana Star Center:
Santa Ana Star Casino
The Rio Rancho Observer
99.3 KOB FM
770 KKOB
Mew Mexico's CW
Perfection Honda
JohnnyBoards LLC
First Community Bank
Qwest
Crystal Springs
O'Hare's Grille & Pub / Hot Tamales
Rio Rancho Printing
March 22, 2007 10:28 PM
Teddy said...
Hello everybody,
We are just interested in having the graduation at the Pit.
March 22, 2007 10:31 PM
"God Bless America" said...
And all those other countries too!
Blog on brother, blog on!
March 22, 2007 10:41 PM
fact said...
Fact sheet:
http://www.santaanastarcenter.com/partnership/
factsheet.pdf
March 22, 2007 10:48 PM
to happy my kid is graduating said...
To: happy my kid is graduating said...
In a nut shell what is this article saying that you sent?
I'm at grapevine0691@aol.com
See http://www.nmbiz.com/06-09Sept/24.htm for the straight skinny on who owns the "Star".
"BACK TO THE PIT"
March 22, 2007 11:00 PM
M. Warren said...
The Santa Ana Casino are "Corporate Partners" with the Santa Ana Star Center.
Who would you rather have benefit? The Casino? or the University of New Mexico?
What percentage of RRPS has attended UNM?
What percentage of RRPS 2007 will attended UNM?
Thank you for the "skinny"
http://www.santaanastarcenter.com/corporate_
partners.php
March 22, 2007 11:23 PM
koat-tv said...
UPDATE:
KOAT is interested in updating THEIR story on the fight to have the graduation ceremonies moved back to the Pit. "ANYONE" interested in doing an interview. Please write back with contact information or call.
Cary J. Schwanitz
505-884-6324
Email cschwanitz@hearst.com if you want your views to be heard by KOAT.
News Coverage
KOAT-TV had excellent coverage of the Rio Rancho graduation moving from its original venue at The Pit. There's a short commercial right before the main story.
www.koat.com/video/11177714/index.html?taf=alb
March 23, 2007 6:56 AM
Albuquerque Tribune said...
Please email and call Stephanie:
HI, this is Stephanie from the Albuquerque Tribune. I'd like to speak to someone about this. My number is 823-3609.
Thanks,
Stephanie Garcia Krenrich
sgarciakrenrich@abqtrib.com
March 23, 2007 6:58 AM
email them said...
schoolboard@rrdo.rrps.k12.nm.us, nmiqgovima@state.nm.us, robert.sjostrand@jostens.com, theobserver@rrobserver.com, news@rrobserver.com, wduncan@rrhs.rrps.k12.nm.us, dnsimmons@rrhs.rrps.k12.nm.us, district@rrdo.rrps.k12.nm.us, opinion@abqjournal.com, kvesely@rrdo.rrps.k12.nm.us, target7@thenewmexicochannel.com, news@kobtv.com, sandrade@hearst.com, dick.knipfing@krqe.com, erika.ruiz@krqe.com, krqesoundoff@krqe.com, cizaguirre@hearst.com, mmaez@hearst.com, mgarofalo@hearst.com, jjojola@kobtv.com, administration@ci.rio-rancho.nm.us, cmj2nc@aol.com, mayor@ci.rio-rancho.nm.us, PStephenson@rrhs.rrps.k12.nm.us, mhartranft@abqjournal.com, romero@rrhs.rrps.k12.nm.us, asweet@rrhs.rrps.k12.nm.us, parentconnect@rrdo.rrps.k12.nm.us, Arteche@rrhs.rrps.k12.nm.us, DKelly@rrhs.rrps.k12.nm.us, pivy@rrhs.rrps.k12.nm.us, plopez@rrhs.rrps.k12.nm.us, aeveleth@rrhs.rrps.k12.nm.us, Dobson@rrhs.rrps.k12.nm.us, Moreno@rrhs.rrps.k12.nm.us, rgalindo@rrhs.rrps.k12.nm.us, Simmons@rrhs.rrps.k12.nm.us, barbour@rrhs.rrps.k12.nm.us, yvalencia@rrhs.rrps.k12.nm.us, Romero@rrhs.rrps.k12.nm.us, webmaster@rrdo.rrps.k12.nm.us, vonancken@rrhs.rrps.k12.nm.us, service@Jostens.com, rmartinez@abqjournal.com, sspalding@kobtv.com, rdereyes@kobtv.com, van.tate@krqe.com, SStucker@kobtv.com, JLucas@kobtv.com, mike.powers@krqe.com, Roland.Glembine@krqe.com, annie.mccormick@krqe.com, jen.jackson@krqe.com, bill.diven@krqe.com, cornelas@kobtv.com, cmahoney@kobtv.com, adarveaux@kobtv.com, jmaher@kobtv.com, gschwartz@kobtv.com, aantonio@kobtv.com, ekahnert@kobtv.com, nbrady@kobtv.com, jvigil@kobtv.com, caragon@kobtv.com, tjoles@kobtv.com, KOBWebmaster@kobtv.com, edreher@rrdo.rrps.k12.nm.us, kkobam@citcomm.com, Talkradiojim@aol.com, sgarciakrenrich@abqtrib.com, cschwanitz@hearst.com, ebriseno@abqjournal.com, barmijo@abqjournal.com, editor@abqtrib.com
March 23, 2007 7:12 AM
Tony said...
Mr. VonAncken,
I talked to you on the phone when you returned my call after a couple of days off.
The school board let us order our graduation invitations and we were not told we were going
to be limited to six invitations per family.
We have invited our families from out of town and they have already requested time off to be here.
If the school board wants to move the graduation let it be next year .. not in the last quarter of the year.
It is very unfair for all of us who have made plans and invited all our families to attend the graduation.
I have never heard a high school limiting people from attending a high school graduation.
It’s supposed to be a very special accomplishment in life and a lot of young kids will have to stay home and not be able to see what they have to look forward when they graduate.
It’s a very bad decision …
Rio Rancho Graduation Belongs in the Pit
Tony Maez
March 23, 2007 7:32 AM
“Go BIG or stay HOME”! said...
Rio Rancho, you have the largest Graduating Class in the entire State and School History what will you do now?
Rio Rancho, “Go BIG or stay HOME”! “The Pit” is the Biggest venue in the state!
Well we are not going to Disneyland.....NO!!! We are going to have our graduation in Rio Rancho so our money WILL NOT be spent in Albuquerque (as stated by the administration) but NO wait the administration OK’d our announcements, cap & gown, class ring and pictures to be bought in Albuquerque?! Hey, at $100 a pop that is $75,000 or at $180 a pop that is $135,000 or at $200 a pop is $150,000, get the picture? Someone other then Rio Rancho is making out good! Do you realize after all is said and done over $500,000 is being spent in Albuquerque on the whole enchilada anyway?
Our Basketball Championship games leading to the finals were at “The Pit" where everyone that we know seemed to make it there with no complaints of the drive, and all done in Albuquerque. (Which was one of the complaints it was too far (17 miles) and dangerous to drive to the graduation but not for the games, and on several different days Rio Rancho drove there because we kept winning and WON IT ALL!?) We have numerous families in Rio Rancho that are season ticket holders to events at the “The Pit” and other events taking place in Albuquerque where the venue is over 18,000+ persons.
FYI: At “The Pit" you have at least 4 ways to enter from and leave North, South, East and West with at least 3 lanes and a newly constructed Freeway you can use going to or when leaving! Lets compare the venues, who knows how long it will take for us to get to and out of the Santa Ana with the whole 2 ways to get there on a 2 lane road with only 1 lane going in and only 1 lane going out, just exactly like a bottle neck, there are no U turns on this little journey. That sounds like fun to me, make sure the family members that received the “golden ticket” and that are allowed to go, all bring their DVD or CD players while driving to and then leaving to get back home that depending on where you live in Rio Rancho is 15 minutes away, each way, that is with no heavy traffic either. Yes this Graduation is going to take a lot longer then 15 minutes drive time each way both going and coming. Also, take a jaunt out there yourself time it from your driveway all the way to where you stop, where you actually park, it will take some of us longer, and speaking of parking, that is going to be a mess! Don’t forget ONLY 1 way in and 1 way out. Did they take into account people other then Rio Rancho and from Albuquerque or even other cities in the state as well as out of state will be coming to this Graduation? This is very important, not everyone going lives in Rio Rancho! You did not take that into consideration.
The decision lends itself with all of the limits placed on it to: no outsiders allowed! We decree by order of VonDuncan and the “many”, at the very last minute - in Rio Rancho, for Rio Rancho, by Rio Rancho, God forbid if you have more then 6 guests!! 2 Parents, 2 Siblings and only 1 set of Grandparents, that is 6, too bad for “Grammy” and “Grampa”, the other set of Grandparents! If you don’t fit into that cookie cutter template logic if you by chance have an extra family member, then you are out of luck, too bad so sad. And to hell with the Aunts and Uncles and Cousins! Draw straws, that is a great idea! Arm wrestle that’s better yet! And to all you folks that bought airline tickets in advance, …shucks. Or if you worked like hell, extra hours or O.T. to have these days off….oops. Oh and the “extra” tickets available, those will be few and far between because 4,500 divided by 750 is 6! But not everyone will need 6, true but based on previous year’s numbers for person’s attending and the fact this is the Largest Graduating Class ever, both mathematically and logically there will be “many” more Seniors that will need more then 6 tickets! We know because several of the Graduates have stated that “everyone” is asking for extra tickets. Think about it a 15,000-person venue down to a 4,500-person venue, WE NEED TICKETS!!
You say, in the past “we always got ‘The Pit’ on a bad day” well not this year, we have in on a Saturday at 4 PM.
And it is very sad to read in the newspaper, people actually condemning those that just happen to have a larger inner circle of more then 6! The attitude is like shame on you for wanting so many tickets, you know if one family needs 2 tickets tops or less, that’s cool, and if one family needs 20 tickets more or less, that’s cool too! But to condemn anyone that have more in their network is ignorance. Just think about the last high school graduation you went to that was not your own child then think about the one you went to that was not related. Now, after you have done that we only go to graduations that we want to go to because of our history with the graduate. We criticize and punish the person graduating because of too many contacts, how very sad. The persons complaining wrote it was “ridiculous”, that narrow-minded mentality is what is “ridiculous” not those that have a larger inner circle of people. More power to you if you know people that want to come witness your achievement! FYI: Our state has one of the highest dropout and suicide rates in the country, just ask Dr. Cleveland. So obtaining your High School diploma is outstanding!
But large sums of money were saved? So says the administration. Yes exactly $1,990.06 was saved! Great that means the 15,000 seats available at “The Pit” for $8K is a much better deal then the 4,500 seats at the hockey rink for $6K? Wait a minute we better ask someone Graduating who can add, if you do the math, each seat at the rink actually costs more then each seat at “The Pit”? Somehow by that logic if both seats are priced the same we should be only paying a total $2,385.00 for the use of the rink not $6,000.00! Again, that total ($2,385) is based on if both the seats at both venues cost the same.
Speaking of more savings, too bad the decision makers don't pay for the graduation accessories that we have to pay for, bought in Albuquerque not Rio Rancho. If you don’t know, Jostens who is handling the announcements was also affected by this last second poorly planned decision. It is too late for them to take out “The Pit” and the location!!! OOPPSS!! It is already etched in stone so to speak, in all of the announcements! (That is NOT going to look good) And because of the downsizing with this last minute decision we now have a surplus of incorrect announcements, much more then we needed in the first place! Now with all the extra announcements that we paid for, now we have to put a total of 2, yes Dos inserts in them, the administration's insert and now our own insert (how professional looking) because the original announcement will in fact still read the Graduation is at “The Pit", maybe with a thick black magic marker we could draw a large X thru that? But hopefully they will see the first insert, which will explain, no it's not at “The Pit" that portion is wrong it is at the “Santa Ana Star owned by the Casino Center hockey rink” here is a map to show you how to get to the 2 lane road after you have driven thru Rio Rancho, (the professionals spent a lot of time clarifying that little tid-bit of info-the name of the venue, even an editor chimed in) but hopefully we who paid for now too many announcements because of the terrible last minute change without everyone’s input are praying they somehow they will see the second insert stating you can't go we are just teasing you, we only have 6 tickets so we can be like “all the other districts” that can ONLY use their Gym, (although if these districts were 17 miles away would love to use “The” storied “Pit”) unlike us with the State’s largest Graduating Class and can use “The Pit”. HEY, No inserts needed if we stay at “The Pit”. Whether you choose one or two inserts to try to explain this debacle in your announcement it won’t look good and will be confusing. So to those lucky ones that won’t be able to go, just send your regards to your Sister or Brother, or Granddaughter or Grandson or favorite Relative that will be Graduating and we the limited family members that flipped a coin to get in, will tell you how it went!
According to the administration of course the most important part of all this graduation, is, it will be in Rio Rancho at the best facility they could get, so that our Graduates can limit the number of members of their families to see them Graduate after 12 years of working hard and they don't get to decide where they want it, the district did it for them, and with only 2 months to go, thank you so much for the early notice, you allowed us no real time to prepare. Even though we had plans that have to be completely changed! People that purchased airline tickets, took time off, etc. We have nothing else going on in our lives. To change venues with such short notice is affecting our Graduates along with thousands of people, and the administration is OK with that?!
Sadly, in the “words of wisdom” from Rio Rancho High School’s own principal’s mouth, where is says, “the choice is yours.” Clearly this is not true even though it has been stated everyday on the announcements he gives. Not ALL of the Seniors had a say a “choice” in this and it is THEIR DAY, right? Not ALL the parents/guardians had a say a “choice” in this and it is THEIR CHILD’S DAY, right? Only a certain few received this important privilege. Just think about that for a minute or 2, how unfair is that? The “Class Song” is “Dream On”, and that is exactly what VonDuncan and Cleveland has told the Class of 2007, “oh you would like your graduation to be returned to ‘The Pit’ Seniors”? “Well ‘Dream On’ Seniors”.
We heard the excuse, “we couldn’t get all the Seniors on the floor last year if we go the the hockey rink we can”. I’m not sure what has changed on the floor of “The Pit” but check and verify this fact, I know I was present in the early 70’s, Sandia High School graduated 2 classes with over 900+ students on the floor and one class which is the Largest Class ever in NM history, with over 1,000+ Seniors all on the floor. So you might want to see why or how that was. Basically, it can be done.
Because of issues with past Graduations but last years in particular, the Class of 2007 and those closest to them get to feel the brunt of the penalty that they are innocent of. What an interesting lesson in life, forget about the stress this ripple affect is causing right now, the decree has spoken. Forget about what is right or wrong or fair and unfair, the decree has spoken. Forget about the fact your announcement will be tacky and confusing and you have much more then you needed, the decree has spoken. Forget about the fact we disrupted your plans and peoples lives, the decree has spoken. Forget about the fact this is YOUR DAY, this is a Celebration, and ALL of your supporting cast does not have to be present, the decree has spoken. Forget about the fact we told you at the last minute, gave you no fair warning with input coming only from the privileged and the administration, sprinkled with a few politicians, the decree has spoken!
An editor and the administration all referred to the “many” that wanted this, what is the problem with putting this to a vote, right now? You will all find out the actual “many” want this event at “The Pit”. Our Seniors will have to revert back to their grade school days, you print up what 750 notes home with 2 boxes to check on the note - “The Pit” or no “Pit”, parents and guardians along with each Senior will vote. Unlike the decree that has been imposed upon everyone, where only a certain “many” voices were heard and acted on, simply, that decision that act in itself is so wrong and so very unfair, this is America right? (The school Board is supposed to uphold the Constitution of the United States, just ask them). Make sure you number each one of these notes that way they can be counted fairly. Add a few lines so the Graduate and their Parent/Guardian can print and sign. If you have a better idea, wonderful as long as the vote process is fair. If the vote comes back no “Pit”, then the editor, the administration and the so called “many” had a finger on the pulse and IF the vote comes back “The Pit” then Hallelujah! Times a wastin’!
At this point, no fair or reasonable explanation can out weigh ALL the reasons why the Graduation should be at “The Pit”. Go ahead and weigh each and every matter honestly and fairly, both sides, the “proof is in the pudding”, fact, the way this entire decision was imposed has been handled, is wrong and very unfair. If it were above board, we would not be writing this.
Sincere apologies if I offended anyone with my sarcasm, I’ve read several comments back and forth when this started here in March with some good news coverage and then very one sided editors chiming in, contradictions and so on, so like a magnet I am jumping in.
And like those before me read everything below and then please "PASS IT ON!
RIO RANCHO BASKETBALL TEAM YOU JUST ROCKED “THE PIT”,
YOU JUST WON YOUR FIRST STATE CHAMPIONSHIP;
MR. VONDUNCAN ENCOURAGED YOU AND ALL STUDENTS
TO “SHOW THEM WE OWN ‘THE PIT’!!
….AND YOU DID!!
WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO NOW?
“WE’RE GOING TO DISNEY LAN….WAIT….NO…..
WE WANT TO GO BACK TO “THE PIT” FOR OUR GRADUATION, WE OWN IT NOW!!
DID YOU SEE HOW MANY FANS WE HAD THERE?! IT WAS GREAT-GO RAMS!!!
March 23, 2007 7:47 AM
like the web log said...
I FOUND YOU!!!
Thank you for thinking outside "the box" and setting this up. This is great!
Simply, what RRPS has imposed along with everything else they have done regarding this graduation debacle is horrendous! I applaud them for wanting the graduation in Rio Rancho. BUT, not this one, not until the “new” school has a graduating class. No matter how they try to “sell” this, they are hurting too many people. 15 to 16000 persons are affected with roughly 10000 that can’t go.
Evan
March 23, 2007 8:59 AM
toby said...
"15 to 16000 persons are DIRECTLY affected with roughly 10000 that can’t go"
i think that pretty much sums it up.
i would add: they did not solicit everyone's input either.
The board never ruled on this one, this was all admin and those in the "shadows".
Oh, and you "blog" persons, thank you very much.
March 23, 2007 9:09 AM
jess said...
06 Parent
"YES the district should have come up with a variety of options and make them available to the public, obtain feedback and base the decision on that feedback in combination with sound financial decisions (as well as access, parking, etc.). YES the timing should have been better. YES the district has not given the public a voice. YES it should probably be moved back to the PIT for this year's graduation."
March 23, 2007 9:18 AM
news flash said...
We heard RRPS has expanded the center seating from 4500 to a little over 5000.
Graduates will get 2 extra tickets max.
Even with this increase they are STILL not allowing up to 10,000 persons attend!
They are "bent" on having this is RR!
They don't care that they NEVER obtained input from everyone affected.
VonAncken is promising they will assist those with their ticket needs. You snooze you lose here.
These efforts should be spent on dropping the "contract" and moving down the hill.
It is sad and amazing what one can do with "power" both good and bad.
RRPS, "its not why you did it, its how you did it!"
Cal
March 23, 2007 9:34 AM
Malone said...
I guess there'll be a whole new batch of whining with the new efforts to resolve this.
"We'll have to get have cable."
"We have to go buy a VCR."
"We'll have to learn to operate a VCR."
"What are you doing for DISH subscribers?"
March 23, 2007 10:57 AM
bennie said...
Family in full support of returning the graduation to The Pit
thank you
Bennie
March 23, 2007 11:01 AM
?malone? said...
Hello "Malone"
I just read your comments.
What do you mean about "cable", "vcr" and "dish"?
Thanks,
Randell
March 23, 2007 11:08 AM
Bert said...
Hi,
I would like to see more effort on the part of the administration to get this graduation out of Rio Rancho.
I make no apologies for having more then 6 people coming in from out of town. We set this all up months ago. "Sorry don't cut it"
March 23, 2007 11:12 AM
carmen said...
RRPS we do not agree with how you handled this graduation. Everything here hits the nail on the head. We need you to listen and GO BACK TO THE PIT
Carmen
March 23, 2007 11:16 AM
Marie said...
I cannot get a refund now.
This has to go back to the pit!
March 23, 2007 11:17 AM
I hope I did this right? said...
I hope I did this right?
Our family agrees that we need to return the the UNM Pit.
Esteban
March 23, 2007 11:18 AM
thanks malone said...
Hey Malone,
thanks,
where did you get that?
Randell
March 23, 2007 11:21 AM
Ken said...
way "Back to Z Pit" please
March 23, 2007 11:23 AM
sorry said...
How does someone go about accessing channel 15?
sorry
March 23, 2007 11:24 AM
come back "Shane" said...
Please relocate the graduation ceremony to The PIT.
Our family will not have enough tickets for all of us to witness our grandson's graduation.
no really its Shane
March 23, 2007 11:28 AM
back to the pit said...
Ok I was told,
I could put this on the internet
here goes
Walt
March 23, 2007 11:31 AM
I support the petition. said...
I really don't know what to write after reading a ton of these comments. But I do know what the school decided to do at the last minute is wrong on so many levels. I support the petition.
Candice
March 23, 2007 11:36 AM
you can quote me said...
"Random acts of kindness"
you can quote me
but keep them random dammit
March 23, 2007 11:39 AM
60's said...
Funny Funny stuff here!!
Go bloggers get us all back to pit
Thank you all for your efforts,
reminds me of the 60's
March 23, 2007 11:46 AM
Dale said...
RIO RANCHO PUBLIC SCHOOLS: We ask that you change this graduation back to the PIT.
Dale
March 23, 2007 12:03 PM
takin' it to the PIT said...
ok, ok,
after reading,
let me guess,
RRPS has come up with even more exciting ways to really foul things up.
Me figures the contract was signed in blood.
so much for the thousands that would like to actually be there.
BACK TO THE PIT one more time
John
March 23, 2007 12:13 PM
Brad said...
I've spent many years trying to squeak out a living in economically depressed communities in New Mexico.
It sure feels good to finally be in a place where the biggest problems in the minds of residents are related to growing pains.
March 23, 2007 12:16 PM
CAROLYN said...
THE BLOG SPOT IS REALLY WONDERFUL THANK YOU FOR THE COMMENTS. OUR FAMILY WILL HAVE OVER 6 PEOPLE COMING. WE DON'T WANT TICKETS WE WANT TO BE AT THE PIT.
CAROLYN
March 23, 2007 12:22 PM
Jesus H. Christ said...
I need tickets for my 12 apostles; my mother and father; Martha and Mary; their brother, and my good pal, Lazarus (I'd move heaven and earth for that guy!). Why do I want all these people to be there? Because that's just how I roll.
So, if you ask yourself, what would Jesus do? I'm here among you to say, "BACK TO THE PIT!!!"
March 23, 2007 12:35 PM
pete said...
It has been said over and over, lets go back to the pit.
Pete D.
March 23, 2007 12:36 PM
what would Jesus do? said...
Dr. Sue Cleveland,
well?
Pam
March 23, 2007 12:39 PM
greg said...
Hello,
Thank you for your interest. "over and over" we have asked to to return to The Pit.
Thank you
March 23, 2007 1:27 PM
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March 23, 2007 1:47 PM
Lee said...
We are writing you to please take the time to read all this information and input and return this graduation to the pit. Because valuable time is passing us by let the parents vote on this that way we can put this whole mess to rest.
Lee
March 23, 2007 1:59 PM
Mandy said...
Mandy is all for returning the graduation.
Thank you
March 23, 2007 3:14 PM
Mandy said...
Mandy is all for returning the graduation.
Thank you
March 23, 2007 3:14 PM
Mandy said...
Seniors Rule:
Go back to the Pit
March 23, 2007 3:21 PM
Just wondering... said...
Does anyone know if the people who made the decision to move the graduation to the Santa Ana Star Center have a financial interest in the Star Center or the casino or in any of the Center's corporate partners? Wouldn't that constitute a conflict of interest?
March 23, 2007 3:32 PM
Sal said...
Crazy!
This is really crazy, the administration is driven to keep this out of Albuquerque at any expense. Even though the entire way it has been handled was improper and discriminatory to anyone with a large family network. I really applaud them for what they are trying do, I do. But this really should have been presented to everyone concerned, not at the last minute.
Sal
March 23, 2007 3:38 PM
just read this said...
CONFLICT OF INTEREST:
I read both of these comments that have already been posted here, does anyone know?
Just wondering... said...
Does anyone know if the people who made the decision to move the graduation to the Santa Ana Star Center have a financial interest in the Star Center or the casino or in any of the Center's corporate partners? Wouldn't that constitute a conflict of interest?
AND
Homestar Runner & red rabbit said...
By the way, if you click on this link, you will see the list of corporate partners of The Santa Ana Star Center:
Santa Ana Star Casino
The Rio Rancho Observer
99.3 KOB FM
770 KKOB
Mew Mexico's CW
Perfection Honda
JohnnyBoards LLC
First Community Bank
Qwest
Crystal Springs
O'Hare's Grille & Pub / Hot Tamales
Rio Rancho Printing
Connie
March 23, 2007 3:44 PM
Rio Rancho Observer said...
No wonder you are so damn biased you all are "CORPORATE PARTNERS"
"rants and raves" baloney
You all are buddies......pals.
Lisa
March 23, 2007 4:04 PM
RRPS said...
Back to the Pit
Camille
March 23, 2007 4:10 PM
i like this one said...
"15 to 16000 persons are DIRECTLY affected with roughly 10000 that can’t go"
i think that pretty much sums it up.
i would add: they did not solicit everyone's input either.
The board never ruled on this one, this was all admin and those in the "shadows".
March 23, 2007 4:22 PM
$corporate partners$$ said...
WOW!!!!!
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$4
March 23, 2007 4:24 PM
Santa said...
Please return to the Pit.
Val
March 23, 2007 5:02 PM
democracy said...
Hello to everyone in support of returning the graduating class of 2007. I have some good news and some bad news. The good news is people see this for what it is. The bad news is Rio Rancho Public Schools does not? All this effort is very positive it shows what people can do. I have read all of the rhetoric, people have been naughty and nice. They continue to ignore common sense and disobey everything they hold our children to. Honesty, integrity, fairness, democracy and so on. Many here have said it a helluva lot better then me. I'm proud to be a part of this process to get this changed.
Jonathon
March 23, 2007 5:32 PM
corporate conflict of interest pards: said...
Becky S said...
I want to see my niece graduate at the pit not at a center that sounds a lot like a casino.
Are we going to the casino after the graduation, maybe that is where the staff and board members will be. Heh that is why they changed it, now we can understand their decision better. What were you all thinking!!
March 23, 2007 5:35 PM
wayne said...
We agree with this PETITION to return the 2007 graduation back to the PIT.
wayne
March 23, 2007 5:38 PM
do the right thing said...
Ethnocentric attitudes trying to melt down 16,000 people into a 5000 person capacity location.
And they are adamant it HAS to be in Rio Rancho.
Just consider everything right about this change and then consider everything wrong about this change.
The answer is so obvious that it has to be money and power driving this whole decision.
My gosh, these are educated people here right?
There is nothing wrong with having the graduation here in Rio Rancho had the process been fair, but it wasn’t.
There also is nothing wrong with having the graduation in Albuquerque under all the circumstances.
There is a HUGE wrong being forced on entire families by those that are really pushing the change.
Do the right thing.
Adam
March 23, 2007 6:00 PM
This is GREAT!! said...
This is GREAT!!
Back to the Pit please
Santiago
March 23, 2007 6:10 PM
Ditto said...
DITTO to everything here.
Kris
March 23, 2007 6:16 PM
in great company said...
Sports Illustrated's Top-20 Sports Venues of the Century:
In June, 1999, Sports Illustrated listed its top-20 sporting venues of the century and The Pit checked in at No. 13.
“Sports Illustrated in 1999 named The Pit one of the Top 20 sporting venues of the 20th century — a list that includes Yankee Stadium, Wrigley Field, Pebble Beach and Daytona International.
Yeah, that’s big-time company. That’s like being compared to Babe Ruth, Joe Louis, Man O’ War, the Roman Empire, George Washington, Marlon Brando, Katharine Hepburn.
When you make an elite list like that maybe something special had to happen in The Pit above and beyond Lobos basketball.
And it did.”
March 23, 2007 6:57 PM
Anonymous said...
we as parents and graduates need to unite as one and let the board and school know that we will not stand for this. this blog is great and let eachother now what is happening but is the super intendent reading all of this we need to call off the wall and request a emergency board meeting an take off of work or what ever we need to do. But it is going to take alot more than just a few parents to do this. lets continue to let the so called higher ups know that thay cant keep doing what they are doing. They talk about bullies in school and it wont be tolerated but who is doing the bullining WE WONT STAND FOR IT come on every one lets do something
March 23, 2007 6:58 PM
right on.................................................................. said...
right on!!!
right on!!!
right on!!!
March 23, 2007 6:59 PM
Luke said...
Dang!!
I am really sorry I am late to this little get together.
You all took the words right out of my mouth.
We support this petition.
Luke
March 23, 2007 7:03 PM
Anonymous said...
please contact Yvette at 994-9648 to help her get names and # to support our voices. we need to present them to the board.
March 23, 2007 7:03 PM
Jill said...
Luke said...
Dang!!
I am really sorry I am late to this little get together.
You all took the words right out of my mouth.
We support this petition.
Luke
March 23, 2007 7:07 PM
don't give up said...
Don't give up
March 23, 2007 7:12 PM
Anonymous said...
We need your help Yvette has arrainged for someone from the news chanell to come out on sunday the 25th to the Santa Ana Star Center at 1:00 pm to come and talk to us parents and those who would like to voice there say in this. PLEASE PLEASE come out and help support us lets show the board they cant just bully us. We need to show that we want the pit back. Please call Yvette for more info 994-9648 thanks for all your support.
March 23, 2007 7:30 PM
Anonymous said...
did you hear about the new decision that RRHS has now.
Lets broad cast it on TV. WOW what a great IDEA lets just let frends and family sit in our living room with a bowl of popcorn and soda and ejoy the show. How tacky is that.
March 23, 2007 7:36 PM
TO YVETTE said...
YVETTE,
WHAT IS YOU EMAIL ADDRESS?
SO PEOPLE CAN HAVE IT.
THANK YOU
RYAN
March 23, 2007 7:51 PM
CALL YVETTE 994-9648 said...
Hello everyone that would like the graduation to return to THE PIT.
IT IS NOT TO LATE, DON'T GIVE UP.
Please contact Yvette at 994-9648 to help her get names and #’s to support our voices.
We need to network with everyone and present our concerns to the board and administration.
We need to show strength in numbers.
We need your help Yvette has arranged for someone from the news channel to come out on Sunday the 25th to the Santa Ana Star Center at 1:00 pm to come and talk to all parents and those who would like to voice their say in this.
PLEASE EVERYONE, PLEASE come out and help support our request to GO BACK TO THE PIT!.
Lets show the board and administration they can’t just bully us.
WE NEED TO SHOW THAT WE WANT THE PIT BACK.
Please call Yvette for more info 994-9648 thanks for all your support.
REMEMBER WE HAVE TO WORK TOGETHER.
DON'T GIVE UP THERE IS A LOT MORE FAMILIES AND PEOPLE THAT WANT IT AT THE PIT!
THE PIT WILL HOLD UP 15 TO 16,000 PEOPLE.
THAT MEANS OVER 10 TO 11,000 PEOPLE WON’T BE ABLE TO GO.
GO BACK TO THE PIT!!
Thank you,
Yvette
March 23, 2007 7:55 PM
CLICK ON YOUR REFRESH BUTTON said...
CLICK ON YOUR REFRESH BUTTON
March 23, 2007 7:58 PM
yaragon said...
this is Yvette and I did get the news to come to the santa ana to broadcast our opionion they are also intrested in hearing from SENIORS graduating as well, I also want everyone to know that I did get the opportunity to speak to our "WONDERFUL SCHOOL BOARD PRESIDENT" when I asked who had input on the decision to make the change of graduation she said that the school board made the decision on what they thought the community,graduates and parents would have decided to do but WHAT GIVES THEM THE RIGHT TO THINK FOR US just because they are on the school board they still are supposed to involve the students and their parents thats what the board is supposed to do but when speaking to her I got the impression from the way she spoke to me in her words "no matter what we do or say the contract has already been signed and the money been paid and this is the way it is going to be whether we like it or not to bad" and another thing that bothered me was that she said "that life was full of disappointments and that this was one of them and that our graduates needed to forget about it and move on" I am sure that our graduates have had pleanty of disappointments in their life and have already learned to move on or they would not be graduating now and so they know that our voices and thoughts do matter please come on SUNDAY MARCH 25, 2007 at 1:00 pm to the SANTA ANA CENTER where graduation is supposed to be held and I hope that the board is also reading these comments because they also need to know that they were voted into these positions because the community put them their and these types of decisions can also have them taken out the graduates have followed all the rules that you as board members have put into place for all the years that they have been in school and now you let them know that their family and friends cannot not be their with them come on show our graduates THAT WE SUPPORT THEM AND WHAT THEY THINK DOES MATTER anyone intrested in emailing me can at nanee_angel@yahoo.com and PLEASE HELP I CANNOT DO THIS ALONE WE HAVE TO DO THIS AS PARENT SUPPORT FOR OUR GRADUATES
March 23, 2007 9:16 PM
Anonymous said...
FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, THE PRESIDENT OF THE SCHOOL BOARD WAS APPROACHED BY A CONCERNED PARENT VIA PHONE ASKING WHY THIS DECISION WAS MADE WITHOUT FAIR INVOLVEMENT FROM THE STUDENTS, AND PARENTS ALIKE. HER ANSWER WAS LESS THAN CORDIAL AND SHE STATED THAT SHE MADE THE DECISION WITHOUT CONSULTING ANYONE BECAUSE SHE HAD THE AUTHORITY TO DO SO.. NOT ONLY DO I FIND THIS HORRIBLY OFFENSIVE, BUT NOT EXACTLY CORRECT. MRS. PRESIDENT OF THE STUDENT BOARD YOU ARE HEREBY PUT ON NOTICE...YOU ONLY HAVE THE AUTHORITY THAT WE AS VOTERS GAVE YOU. IN THIS DECISION MAAM YOU ARE NOT REPRESENTING WHAT WE WANT. I THINK WE NEED TO SERIOUSLY RECONSIDER JUST HOW MUCH AUTHORITY WE WILL ALLOW YOU TO HAVE.
I Assure you this isssue will haunt you for the rest of your shortlived political career. Rio Rancho parents and citizens will not allow this obvious abuse of trust and power to go on unquestioned or unchallenged. Our children are very dear to us. We though you undertood that.
March 23, 2007 9:16 PM
CALL YVETTE 994-9648 said...
CALL YVETTE 994-9648
Hello everyone that would like the graduation to return to THE PIT.
IT IS NOT TO LATE, DON'T GIVE UP.
Please contact Yvette at 994-9648 to help her get names and #’s to support our voices.
We need to network with everyone and present our concerns to the board and administration.
We need to show strength in numbers.
We need your help Yvette has arranged for someone from the news channel to come out on Sunday the 25th to the Santa Ana Star Center at 1:00 pm to come and talk to all parents and those who would like to voice their say in this.
PLEASE EVERYONE, PLEASE come out and help support our request to GO BACK TO THE PIT!.
Lets show the board and administration they can’t just bully us.
WE NEED TO SHOW THAT WE WANT THE PIT BACK.
Please call Yvette for more info 994-9648 thanks for all your support.
REMEMBER WE HAVE TO WORK TOGETHER.
DON'T GIVE UP THERE IS A LOT MORE FAMILIES AND PEOPLE THAT WANT IT AT THE PIT!
THE PIT WILL HOLD UP 15 TO 16,000 PEOPLE.
THAT MEANS OVER 10 TO 11,000 PEOPLE WON’T BE ABLE TO GO.
GO BACK TO THE PIT!!
Thank you,
Yvette
March 23, 2007 9:27 PM
Anonymous said...
PUT ON NOTICE PART 2
WAY TO GO YVETTE!!!!
I WILL DEFINATELY BE THERE !!!!!
JOSEPH
March 23, 2007 9:28 PM
Anonymous said...
PUT ON NOTICE PART 3
I APOLOGIZE IT IS NOT THE PRESIDENT OF THE STUDENT BOARD IT IS THE PRESIDENT OF THE SCHOOL BOARD THAT IS SO WRONGLY MISINFORMED. JUST LIKE I MADE THE CORRECTION TO THIS MISTAKE, THE PRESIDENT OF THE SCHOOL BOARD SHOULD CORRECT HERS.
JOSEPH
March 23, 2007 9:36 PM
contact nanee_angel@yahoo.com said...
EMAIL YVETTE: nanee_angel@yahoo.com
CALL YVETTE: 994-9648
Hello everyone that would like the graduation to return to THE PIT.
IT IS NOT TO LATE, DON'T GIVE UP.
Please contact Yvette at 994-9648 to help her get names and #’s to support our voices.
We need to network with everyone and present our concerns to the board and administration.
We need to show strength in numbers.
We need your help Yvette has arranged for someone from the news channel to come out on Sunday the 25th to the Santa Ana Star Center at 1:00 pm to come and talk to all parents and those who would like to voice their say in this.
PLEASE EVERYONE, PLEASE come out and help support our request to GO BACK TO THE PIT!.
Lets show the board and administration they can’t just bully us.
WE NEED TO SHOW THAT WE WANT THE PIT BACK.
Please call Yvette for more info 994-9648 thanks for all your support.
REMEMBER WE HAVE TO WORK TOGETHER.
DON'T GIVE UP THERE IS A LOT MORE FAMILIES AND PEOPLE THAT WANT IT AT THE PIT!
THE PIT WILL HOLD UP 15 TO 16,000 PEOPLE.
THAT MEANS OVER 10 TO 11,000 PEOPLE WON’T BE ABLE TO GO.
GO BACK TO THE PIT!!
Thank you,
Yvette
March 23, 2007 9:59 PM
Ashton said...
We agree with this PETITION to return the 2007 graduation back to the PIT.
Ashton
March 23, 2007 10:49 PM
Dick said...
You all have already written what I wanted to say, thank you.
We agree with this PETITION to return the 2007 graduation back to the PIT.
Dick
March 23, 2007 10:54 PM
gidget said...
City of Vision
wake up!
March 23, 2007 10:56 PM
Oscar said...
We agree with this PETITION to return the 2007 graduation back to the PIT.
Oscar
March 23, 2007 10:57 PM
Dr. said...
We agree with this PETITION to return the 2007 graduation back to the PIT.
Dr. Sue Cleveland
March 23, 2007 10:58 PM
we wish the dr. said...
We agree with this PETITION to return the 2007 graduation back to the PIT.
Anne
March 23, 2007 10:59 PM
D said...
We agree with this PETITION to return the 2007 graduation back to the PIT.
Dara
March 23, 2007 11:00 PM
Allen said...
I saw the newscast by KOAT-TV yesterday.
They are trying their darndest to stay in RR.
I pray they would put that much energy to change it back!
Allen
March 23, 2007 11:02 PM
JT said...
That President of the school board was a witch!
They have NO respect for parents or our children.
I will make it a point to let everyone know what a joke that is.
It is a gool ol' boy network.
And they are stuck on themselves.
March 23, 2007 11:06 PM
8-tickets said...
6-ticket limit.
One Graduate, has 4 Grandparents, 2 Parents, that equals 6 tickets, but what about divorced families that would now have 6 Grandparents and 4 Parents, that equals 8?
That does not even include Sisters, Brothers, Aunts, Uncles, Nieces, Nephews, Cousins, Loved Ones, Neighbors, past Teachers, Employers and Friends!
Now they are saying we will get 8-tickets
We want to have all families and the graduates vote
GO BACK TO THE PIT
March 23, 2007 11:13 PM
Elaine D. Briseño said...
Thursday's announcements still might not appease some parents.
Tony Maez said he is a divorced parent of a graduating senior. He ordered 40 invitations and split them with his wife. He said each is expecting to use all their invitations, meaning even the eight-ticket limit wouldn't be enough. As for the telecast, he said that won't help much either because he has satellite. Maez said he might consider sending some people to the high school to watch it if he does not get enough tickets.
Maez said the school should have waited until next year's graduation to make the switch so parents were not surprised.
"I don't have a problem with them moving the graduation to Rio Rancho, but please tell us at the beginning of the year," he said. "This is awful. It (the broadcast) is a Band-Aid to what they did."
Sharon Parker, who has been outspoken about the change, said the broadcast is an admission that the school was wrong when it decided to change the venue.
"It (the broadcast) does not solve my problem," she said. "When they announce (my daughter's) name, I want her to hear them yelling for her," she said. "I want them to be able to hug her when it's over."
Friday, March 23, 2007
Commencement to Be Televised
By Elaine D. Briseño
Journal Staff Writer
This year's Rio Rancho High School graduation ceremony, which turned controversial when the event was moved to the Santa Ana Star Center, will be televised live on cable Channel 15.
The school administration announced at the end of February it would move the May 19 ceremony from the Pit in Albuquerque to the Star Center in Rio Rancho. The move angered some parents because the smaller venue means the school was going to have to limit the number of guests to six per student.
The Pit can accommodate more than 18,000 with standing room while the capacity at Santa Ana is between 6,000 and 7,000.
(It will be closer to 5,000 for the graduation set up)
RioVision, the community access cable channel, announced Thursday it will air the event on CableOne Channel 15 at 4 p.m. May 19. It will be rebroadcast at some point on Channel 17.
"... We've worked with CableOne, (RRHS) principal Richard Von Ancken and the Santa Ana Star Center so that we'll be able to carry the graduation ceremony live," Ed Smith, owner of Edit House Productions LLC, which manages RioVision, said in a news release. "Friends and family members will be able to gather at homes or community venues to see the ceremony."
Residents who have a satellite dish or no cable will not be able to see the broadcast at home. However, Rio Rancho Public Schools will open the high school's Performing Arts Center so the public can view the event there.
Meanwhile, VonAncken said Thursday that the school has increased the number of tickets per student to eight. He also said that local businesses have donated their suites. There will be a drawing to determine which students will be able to use them.
VanAncken said the capacity at the Star Center on graduation day will be about 6,300.
(It will be closer to 5,000 he is fudging)
Students will also have the opportunity to get extra tickets from their friends or to get unclaimed tickets from the school.
VonAncken has said he switched to the smaller arena because he was approached by parents to do it and it also offers a more intimate setting. The Pit, he has said, does not have enough room to accommodate the school's 700 graduates.
Thursday's announcements still might not appease some parents.
Tony Maez said he is a divorced parent of a graduating senior. He ordered 40 invitations and split them with his wife. He said each is expecting to use all their invitations, meaning even the eight-ticket limit wouldn't be enough. As for the telecast, he said that won't help much either because he has satellite. Maez said he might consider sending some people to the high school to watch it if he does not get enough tickets.
Maez said the school should have waited until next year's graduation to make the switch so parents were not surprised.
"I don't have a problem with them moving the graduation to Rio Rancho, but please tell us at the beginning of the year," he said. "This is awful. It (the broadcast) is a Band-Aid to what they did."
Sharon Parker, who has been outspoken about the change, said the broadcast is an admission that the school was wrong when it decided to change the venue.
"It (the broadcast) does not solve my problem," she said. "When they announce (my daughter's) name, I want her to hear them yelling for her," she said. "I want them to be able to hug her when it's over."
VonAcken said the school is doing everything it can to offer more tickets to families who have people coming in from out of town. He said he does not regret moving the ceremony to Rio Rancho and has had only about 14 families approach the school about needing tickets for people coming from out of town for the event.
March 23, 2007 11:25 PM
Stephanie Garcia Krenrich said...
GRADUATION SITE SWITCH IRKS RIO RANCHO PARENTS
By Stephanie Garcia Krenrich Friday, March 23, 2007
This year, Rio Rancho High School's graduating seniors won't have to drive miles to The Pit, and instead can walk the aisle in a new arena in their own hometown.
(17-18 miles to The Pit on a new freeway with entry and exits N, S, E and W on 3-4 lane roads. For the center you have to drive through Rio Rancho to get to a 2 lane highway, with ONLY 1 way in and 1 way out of the venue, and no way to turnaround! This is easily a 15-minute drive for residents IN Rio Rancho depending what part of the city you live in and the time estimate is with ONLY minimal traffic! Traffic on May 19 will be packed!)
Sound good? Well, not to everyone.
For some of the nearly 700 graduates and their families, the decision to hold commencement exercises at the Santa Ana Star Center instead of The Pit has one big problem.
The new place isn't big enough.
"I ordered 40 invitations," said Tony Maez, whose son will graduate from Rio Rancho High School during the May 19 ceremony. "I'm a divorced parent. My ex-wife has her family. Things like this they should have considered. Now I'm telling my relatives to wait and see what happens."
The Santa Ana Star Center, which opened in November, will hold 5,500 of the graduates' family and friends,
(They originally said 4,500, then they said a little over 5,000, VonAncken is trying to say over 6,000, it will be closer to 5,000)
while the The Pit held 11,000 for the ceremony last year, said Bill Duncan, Rio Rancho High activities director.
(It was closer to 14,000, they had to open a closed section last year. It was a biggest crowd compared to all the other APS graduations in 06. 07 has a bigger class)
The limited space has prompted a collection of angry parents to air their opposition publicly. Some even formed a BLOG to express their distaste over the move.
"The decision should have been made before rather than after families have begun planning," a parent wrote on the blog, at http://www.rioranchogradsunite.blogspot.com/
Kim Vesely, spokeswoman for Rio Rancho Public Schools, said the change was made so students can have graduation in their hometown.
"For many years we've had many inquiries about holding graduation in Rio Rancho," she said. "With the opening of the Santa Ana Star Center, we were able to do it."
Because of the smaller number of seats available, the district will allow graduates a limited number of guests, Duncan said.
Originally, six tickets were to be issued to each graduate this year. That has since been increased to eight tickets each, said Rio Rancho High Principal Richard VonAncken.
The district will make 600 extra tickets available to students, which will be distributed two at a time, starting in early May until they're gone, VonAncken said.
(Those 600 tickets are at the high school and will be televised, this is not at the center)
The ceremony will be also televised on Channel 15, Rio Rancho's public access channel.
Graduation has been held at The Pit for at least the last five years, Duncan said. Before that, the ceremony was at the University of New Mexico's Johnson Gym.
The school district originally set this year's graduation at The Pit on May 19 at 4 p.m. That changed when officials realized the same graduation date and time would be available at the Santa Ana Star Center, Duncan said.
People who oppose the facility change say they weren't involved in the decision-making process.
"It is apparent there was not enough public deliberation about this issue," one parent wrote on the blog. "A decision affecting the entire school population should have been discussed publicly so that all voices were heard prior to the decision."
Although the decision was made at the school level by the principal and the staff, parents were notified immediately in a letter, Vesely said.
(Only 2 months notice)
The change will force families to adjust, Vesely said, but it will have some advantages.
"The graduating class is now so big that students couldn't sit on the gym floor at The Pit," Vesely said. "The (Santa Ana) center has a bigger floor. Students will be able to sit together, and it's a better facility for handicap access."
(They put over a 1,000 graduates on The Pit floor before for some of the past APS schools, it can be done)
Maez says he doesn't oppose the new facility or the fact that school officials want to have the ceremony in their hometown.
But he believes parents should have been informed earlier.
"This is a big step for a kid that is graduating," Maez said. "They want their family to be there."
March 24, 2007 12:06 AM
echarles1234@aol.com said...
If you are against the move to return to THE PIT, email echarles1234@aol.com with your comments.
Thank you
March 24, 2007 6:59 AM
please SIGN THE PETITION said...
SIGN THE PETITION
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March 24, 2007 7:07 AM
To Sue Cleveland said...
To Sue Cleveland,
You are going to get sued or have an injunction brought against you.
What comes around will go around.
Honestly, you are a much better person than this BIG mess.
Here is your time to shine and stop this terrible ordeal.
You have not heard the end of this.
Comment after comment show you never let parents, guardians, seniors, families provide input or have a fair vote or poll.
You only let certain people call in and complain and accepted that along with the other driving force to have this in Rio Rancho.
There is NOTHING wrong with that as long as you let EVERYONE impacted state their case.
That has NOT happened yet.
Have a fair vote now or take it back to The PIT.
I am reading between the lines you are trying very hard to do the right thing and keep the graduation safe.
You are being pressured by someone or others that clearly have power over you.
Because what you are forcing and mandating on graduating seniors and their loved ones in WRONG!
We did the math you are not saving money concerning this matter.
Just by the way you are handling this mistake will not set well at all.
This huge push now by you and company to keep this in Rio Rancho at all costs confirms your error.
But, you are still falling way short concerning the BIG picture; this entire process was NOT FAIR!
You are ignoring that major problem.
Listen; just by you going back to The PIT will calm the crowd.
Sue Cleveland, do the right thing.
Kyle
March 24, 2007 7:29 AM
Anonymous said...
WE NEED ALL THE SUPPORT PLEASE REMEMBER TO COME OUT TO THE SANTA ANA STAR CENTER TO ON SUNDAY THE 25TH AT 1:00PM TO RALLY TOGETHER WE NEED YOU ALL THAT ARE WRITING IN THANKS
March 24, 2007 8:08 AM
koat-tv 2 newscasts: said...
UPDATE:
SEE BOTH NEWSCASTS BELOW:
KOAT is interested in updating THEIR story on the fight to have the graduation ceremonies moved back to the Pit. "ANYONE" interested in doing an interview. Please write back with contact information or call.
Cary J. Schwanitz
505-884-6324
Email cschwanitz@hearst.com if you want your views to be heard by KOAT.
News Coverage
KOAT-TV had excellent coverage of the Rio Rancho graduation moving from its original venue at The Pit. There's a short commercial right before the main story.
FIRST STORY:
www.koat.com/video/11177714/index.html?taf=alb
SECOND STORY:
http://www.koat.com/video/11334805/index.html?taf=alb
March 24, 2007 8:12 AM
Albuquerque Tribune said...
Please email and call Stephanie:
She did a GREAT STORY below:
(Note: The Parentheses comments() along with her story are from one of our Blog contributors, [thank you])
HI, this is Stephanie from the Albuquerque Tribune. I'd like to speak to someone about this. My number is 823-3609.
Thanks,
Stephanie Garcia Krenrich
sgarciakrenrich@abqtrib.com
Stephanie Garcia Krenrich said...
GRADUATION SITE SWITCH IRKS RIO RANCHO PARENTS
By Stephanie Garcia Krenrich Friday, March 23, 2007
This year, Rio Rancho High School's graduating seniors won't have to drive miles to The Pit, and instead can walk the aisle in a new arena in their own hometown.
(17-18 miles to The Pit on a new freeway with entry and exits N, S, E and W on 3-4 lane roads. For the center you have to drive through Rio Rancho to get to a 2 lane highway, with ONLY 1 way in and 1 way out of the venue, and no way to turnaround! This is easily a 15-minute drive for residents IN Rio Rancho depending what part of the city you live in and the time estimate is with ONLY minimal traffic! Traffic on May 19 will be packed!)
Sound good? Well, not to everyone.
For some of the nearly 700 graduates and their families, the decision to hold commencement exercises at the Santa Ana Star Center instead of The Pit has one big problem.
The new place isn't big enough.
"I ordered 40 invitations," said Tony Maez, whose son will graduate from Rio Rancho High School during the May 19 ceremony. "I'm a divorced parent. My ex-wife has her family. Things like this they should have considered. Now I'm telling my relatives to wait and see what happens."
The Santa Ana Star Center, which opened in November, will hold 5,500 of the graduates' family and friends,
(They originally said 4,500, then they said a little over 5,000, VonAncken is trying to say over 6,000, it will be closer to 5,000)
while the The Pit held 11,000 for the ceremony last year, said Bill Duncan, Rio Rancho High activities director.
(It was closer to 14,000, they had to open a closed section last year. It was a biggest crowd compared to all the other APS graduations in 06. 07 has a bigger class)
The limited space has prompted a collection of angry parents to air their opposition publicly. Some even formed a BLOG to express their distaste over the move.
"The decision should have been made before rather than after families have begun planning," a parent wrote on the blog, at http://www.rioranchogradsunite.blogspot.com/
Kim Vesely, spokeswoman for Rio Rancho Public Schools, said the change was made so students can have graduation in their hometown.
"For many years we've had many inquiries about holding graduation in Rio Rancho," she said. "With the opening of the Santa Ana Star Center, we were able to do it."
Because of the smaller number of seats available, the district will allow graduates a limited number of guests, Duncan said.
Originally, six tickets were to be issued to each graduate this year. That has since been increased to eight tickets each, said Rio Rancho High Principal Richard VonAncken.
The district will make 600 extra tickets available to students, which will be distributed two at a time, starting in early May until they're gone, VonAncken said.
(Those 600 tickets are at the high school and will be televised, this is not at the center)
The ceremony will be also televised on Channel 15, Rio Rancho's public access channel.
Graduation has been held at The Pit for at least the last five years, Duncan said. Before that, the ceremony was at the University of New Mexico's Johnson Gym.
The school district originally set this year's graduation at The Pit on May 19 at 4 p.m. That changed when officials realized the same graduation date and time would be available at the Santa Ana Star Center, Duncan said.
People who oppose the facility change say they weren't involved in the decision-making process.
"It is apparent there was not enough public deliberation about this issue," one parent wrote on the blog. "A decision affecting the entire school population should have been discussed publicly so that all voices were heard prior to the decision."
Although the decision was made at the school level by the principal and the staff, parents were notified immediately in a letter, Vesely said.
(Only 2 months notice)
The change will force families to adjust, Vesely said, but it will have some advantages.
"The graduating class is now so big that students couldn't sit on the gym floor at The Pit," Vesely said. "The (Santa Ana) center has a bigger floor. Students will be able to sit together, and it's a better facility for handicap access."
(They put over a 1,000 graduates on The Pit floor before for some of the past APS schools, it can be done)
Maez says he doesn't oppose the new facility or the fact that school officials want to have the ceremony in their hometown.
But he believes parents should have been informed earlier.
"This is a big step for a kid that is graduating," Maez said. "They want their family to be there."
March 24, 2007 8:22 AM
yadaughter said...
I AM A SENIOR THIS YEAR AND I REALLY THINK HOW THEY MOVED GRADUATION WITHOUT INFORMING US BEFORE WE BOUGHT OUR ANNOUNCEMENTS WAS VERY WRONG. THEY SHOULD HAVE LET US KNOW SOONER SO WE COULD HAVE TOLD OUR FAMILIES THAT ARE OUT OF TOWN TO JUST STAY HOME. THE SCHOOL ALWAYS CRIES AND COMPLAINS WHEN WE DONT FOLLOW THERE RULES WELL LOOK WHO IS NOT FOLLOWING THEM NOW! WHY SHOULD WE FOLLOW RULES IF THEY AINT EVEN GONNA FOLLOW THEM ITS JUST NOT FAIR. IT ALSO MEANS SO MUCH TOO MANY OF US SENIORS TO HAVE OUR FAMILY AND FRIENDS TO WATCH US GRADUATE. THEY ARE SAYING THEY CAN WATCH IT ON TV ITS NOT THE SAME. WE WANT SUPPORT NOT JUST FROM OUR PARENTS WE WANT IT FROM EVERYONE.IT IS A BIG ACCOMPLISHMENT IN OUR LIVES AND WE WANT TO SHOW OUR FAMILIES AND FRIENDS THAT WE DID IT AND HOW PROUD OF US THEY ARE. HOW ARE WE GONNA GET SUPPORT IF THEY ARE AT HOME?YOU WANT THEM TO SIT ON THE COUCH AND YELL FROM HOME? OW YEAH REAL GOOD WE WILL HEAR THEM CHEERING FOR US...THATS NOT RIGHT...I AM RELLY GLAD THAT MY MOM IS DOING EVERYTHING TO SHOW THE PRESIDENT OF THE SCHOOL BOARD THAT SHE DOES NOT HAVE THE POWER TO THINK FOR US OR DO WHAT SHE WANTS JUST SHE IS THE "PRESIDENT" HOW BIG DEAL AND I AM A SENIOR SO WHAT? IT NEEDS TO GET MOVED BACK TO THE PIT!!!WE OWN THE PIT THANKS TO OUR BOYS BASKETBALL SO NOW WHY CANT WE GRADUATE THERE? PLEASE EVERYONE BE THERE ON SUNDAY AT 1:00 TO HELP SUPPORT ME AND MY MOM AND SHOW THE SCHOOL BOARD THAT THEY NEED TO INVOLVE US TOO NOT JUST THEMSELVES.
March 24, 2007 8:25 AM
tomorrow SUNDAY 25TH AT 1:00PM said...
WE NEED ALL YOUR SUPPORT PLEASE
REMEMBER TO COME OUT TO THE SANTA ANA STAR CENTER TO ON SUNDAY THE 25TH AT 1:00PM
THAT IS TOMORROW!
TO RALLY TOGETHER WE NEED YOU ALL THAT ARE WRITING IN
THANKS
March 24, 2007 8:26 AM
senior said...
I have worked my butt off in high school and my ENTIRE family has supported me in these twelve hard years of work and this is how you repay the class of 2007?
It's not my fault you're only giving me six tickets, oh, maybe eight?
Since RRPS is so good at making my decisions for me than maybe you can help me evaluate how I am going to divide up my tickets among my family and loved ones?
We were not asked for or allowed to give you our thoughts.
March 24, 2007 9:06 AM
the "skinny" said...
The Santa Ana Casino are "Corporate Partners" with the Santa Ana Star Center.
Who would you rather have benefit? The Casino? or the University of New Mexico?
What percentage of RRPS has attended UNM?
What percentage of RRPS 2007 will attended UNM?
Thank you for the "skinny"
http://www.santaanastarcenter.com/corporate_
partners.php
March 24, 2007 9:17 AM
CONFLICT OF INTEREST said...
just read this said...
CONFLICT OF INTEREST:
I read both of these comments that have already been posted here, does anyone know?
Just wondering... said...
Does anyone know if the people who made the decision to move the graduation to the Santa Ana Star Center have a financial interest in the Star Center or the casino or in any of the Center's corporate partners? Wouldn't that constitute a conflict of interest?
AND
Homestar Runner & red rabbit said...
By the way, if you click on this link, you will see the list of corporate partners of The Santa Ana Star Center:
Santa Ana Star Casino
The Rio Rancho Observer
99.3 KOB FM
770 KKOB
Mew Mexico's CW
Perfection Honda
JohnnyBoards LLC
First Community Bank
Qwest
Crystal Springs
O'Hare's Grille & Pub / Hot Tamales
Rio Rancho Printing
Connie
March 24, 2007 9:22 AM
annabelle said...
I support returning the graduation to The Pit.
March 24, 2007 9:34 AM
CALL YVETTE 994-9648 today please said...
CALL YVETTE: 994-9648
EMAIL YVETTE: nanee_angel@yahoo.com
Hello everyone that would like the graduation to return to THE PIT.
We need your help Yvette has arranged for someone from the news channel to come out on Sunday the 25th to the Santa Ana Star Center at 1:00 pm to come and talk to all parents and those who would like to voice their say in this.
IT IS NOT TO LATE, DON'T GIVE UP.
Please contact Yvette at 994-9648 to help her get names and #’s to support our voices.
We need to network with everyone and present our concerns to the board and administration.
We need to show strength in numbers.
We need your help Yvette has arranged for someone from the news channel to come out on Sunday the 25th to the Santa Ana Star Center at 1:00 pm to come and talk to all parents and those who would like to voice their say in this.
PLEASE EVERYONE, PLEASE come out and help support our request to GO BACK TO THE PIT!.
Lets show the board and administration they can’t just bully us.
WE NEED TO SHOW THAT WE WANT THE PIT BACK.
Please call Yvette for more info 994-9648 thanks for all your support.
REMEMBER WE HAVE TO WORK TOGETHER.
DON'T GIVE UP THERE IS A LOT MORE FAMILIES AND PEOPLE THAT WANT IT AT THE PIT!
THE PIT WILL HOLD UP 15 TO 16,000 PEOPLE.
THAT MEANS OVER 10 TO 11,000 PEOPLE WON’T BE ABLE TO GO.
GO BACK TO THE PIT!!
Thank you,
Yvette
March 24, 2007 9:37 AM
Lenora said...
I understand the chaos of organizing a high school graduation and inevitably someone is going to be less than happy about the result. But to callously disregard the plans and wishes of multiple family members goes beyond any kind of administrative SNAFU.
Gradution ceremonies are ultimately about the achievements of the students and an opportunity for loved ones to celebrate those achievements. For Rio Rancho to dismiss the concerns and outrage of family members is to disregard the spirit of the ceremony.
Isn't obvious? Do the right thing.
March 24, 2007 9:42 AM
do wah ditto.... said...
ditto to this HUGE SNAFU!!!
I understand the chaos of organizing a high school graduation and inevitably someone is going to be less than happy about the result. But to callously disregard the plans and wishes of multiple family members goes beyond any kind of administrative SNAFU.
Graduation ceremonies are ultimately about the achievements of the students and an opportunity for loved ones to celebrate those achievements. For Rio Rancho to dismiss the concerns and outrage of family members is to disregard the spirit of the ceremony.
Isn't obvious? Do the right thing.
March 24, 2007 10:42 AM
aggie said...
I support returning the graduation to The Pit.
March 24, 2007 11:09 AM
we agree said...
We support returning the graduation to The Pit.
Tom
March 24, 2007 11:16 AM
Manny said...
GREAT comments!!
We agree,
don't do us wrong RRPS.
March 24, 2007 11:20 AM
AMERICANS said...
RRPS
We are
AMERICANS
not
ameri-can'ts
“To the Graduating Class of Seniors 2007”
After 12-13 years of working towards graduating, we hoped you have learned.
We hoped you have learned to discriminate and impose your will on others.
Especially, don't use anything we taught you about "Democracy", rather, “do as I say, not as I do” is a much more advantageous edict.
All I am saying is
R U AN AMERI-CAN
OR
AN AMERI-CAN'T?
That is all I am asking.
Ethan
March 24, 2007 11:45 AM
back to the pit said...
BACK TO THE PIT!
it is that simple......
Jennifer
March 24, 2007 12:56 PM
CALL YVETTE 994-9648 today please said...
CALL YVETTE: 994-9648
EMAIL YVETTE: nanee_angel@yahoo.com
Hello everyone that would like the graduation to return to THE PIT.
We need your help Yvette has arranged for someone from the news channel to come out on Sunday the 25th to the Santa Ana Star Center at 1:00 pm to come and talk to all parents and those who would like to voice their say in this.
IT IS NOT TO LATE, DON'T GIVE UP.
Please contact Yvette at 994-9648 to help her get names and #’s to support our voices.
We need to network with everyone and present our concerns to the board and administration.
We need to show strength in numbers.
We need your help Yvette has arranged for someone from the news channel to come out on Sunday the 25th to the Santa Ana Star Center at 1:00 pm to come and talk to all parents and those who would like to voice their say in this.
PLEASE EVERYONE, PLEASE come out and help support our request to GO BACK TO THE PIT!.
Lets show the board and administration they can’t just bully us.
WE NEED TO SHOW THAT WE WANT THE PIT BACK.
Please call Yvette for more info 994-9648 thanks for all your support.
REMEMBER WE HAVE TO WORK TOGETHER.
DON'T GIVE UP THERE IS A LOT MORE FAMILIES AND PEOPLE THAT WANT IT AT THE PIT!
THE PIT WILL HOLD UP 15 TO 16,000 PEOPLE.
THAT MEANS OVER 10 TO 11,000 PEOPLE WON’T BE ABLE TO GO.
GO BACK TO THE PIT!!
Thank you,
Yvette
March 24, 2007 1:53 PM
back to the pit said...
we as parents and graduates need to unite as one and let the board and school know that we will not stand for this. this blog is great and let each other now what is happening but is the superintendent reading all of this we need to call off the wall and request a emergency board meeting an take off of work or what ever we need to do. But it is going to take a lot more than just a few parents to do this. lets continue to let the so called higher ups know that they cant keep doing what they are doing. They talk about bullies in school and it won’t be tolerated but who is doing the bullying WE WONT STAND FOR IT come on every one lets do something
March 24, 2007 2:06 PM
gene said...
Hello Bloggers,
Some very informative stuff here. Things I did not even consider. We all agree to go Back to The Pit. It really concerns me what blatant disregard they have for everyone. That is not the Sue Cleveland I know. Someone with some real juice is misleading her. What is that actual breakdown culturally of this graduating class? How is it that they have no concern with the adversity they have caused to so many? Surely, the school has had diversity and sensitivity training? Don’t give up, as someone already wrote, keep this going. Because their decision is way out of line. Bad, Bad, Bad! Sad to say politics, power and money are involved, no one can be that stupid. Can they?
Where is Bill Richardson?
Not that he is my choice for anything,
But he sure can mediate.
Gene
March 24, 2007 5:55 PM
rod said...
We want our family and loved ones to see my daughter graduate and 6 tickets won’t be enough.
Rio Rancho schools needs to re-think their decision!
Return to the PIT!
Or allow parents and seniors to vote.
Rodney
March 24, 2007 6:55 PM
denny said...
THANKS FOR THE BLOG SPOT.THIS IS A GIGANTIC MISTAKE AFFECTING OUR CHILDREN OUR FAMILIES OUR FRIENDS
Denny
March 24, 2007 8:30 PM
It’s just ridiculous. said...
Why would they (whoever they are) change the plans without the students/parents opinion?
It is all about the seniors, or else they wouldn’t be holding a graduation ceremony.
And to only be able to invite 6 people to graduation??
What if there are families with more than six people?
Wow how nice of you guys to not allow someone’s entire family to attend.
Good job.
No wonder no body likes Rio Rancho, its ran by a bunch of idiots.
The school doesn’t even let students know what’s going on, seems like they have no idea what they are doing.
Everybody is angry, because of the fact that they changed it after everybody out of state has made plans, and now a majority of them wont even be able to attend because the graduates can only invite 6 people.
It’s just ridiculous.
And why did I pay 100 and somewhat dollars for invitations for graduation when I can't even send them out, because you can't use them to get in the graduation?
RR school board sucks.
March 24, 2007 8:38 PM
“BACK TO THE PIT” said...
Tear up the contract!
“BACK TO THE PIT”
Dr. Cleveland we want this graduation at THE PIT, thank you.
Nick
March 24, 2007 8:45 PM
Tony said...
To whom it may concern,
I didn’t appreciate Gary Herron’s remarks on the Observer article
about the High School graduation being relocated.
"Come on, parents of graduating seniors of 2007. Get used to the
idea that the ceremony is going to be held at the Santa Ana Star”.
The idea is being shoved down our throats even by the Observer’s editor. The school board shouldn’t have changed the location two months prior to graduation and after we all had ordered our graduation invitations. All our graduation invitations state the graduation is being held at the University Arena “The Pit”. Is the school board going to reimburse us for all the invitations we couldn’t use? The simple solution to this mess the school board created is just hold the graduation at the Pit like we were told in the first place and let the graduates of next year hold theirs Santa Ana Star Center. Now the school board wants to televise the graduation one Cable One Network … A lot of parents including myself have Dish Network which will not broadcast the graduation. I have never heard people being limited access to a high school graduation …. Only in Rio Rancho .. The City of Vision … Tony Maez
March 24, 2007 9:41 PM
RE: The Observer newspaper said...
RE: The Observer newspaper
Check this out,
according to the Santa Ana Website, the OBSERVER are "Corporate Partners", with BOTH the casino and the center, have you noticed they have yet to do an actual news report on a Parent that is upset with the graduation, Both the Journal and Tribune interviewed Parents, right, then how come our own newspaper has not interviewed anyone?
List of "Corporate Partners" of The Santa Ana Star Center:
SANTA ANA STAR CASINO
THE RIO RANCHO OBSERVER
99.3 KOB FM
770 KKOB
Mew Mexico's CW
Perfection Honda
JohnnyBoards LLC
First Community Bank
Qwest
Crystal Springs
O'Hare's Grille & Pub / Hot Tamales
Rio Rancho Printing
AND
Does anyone know if the people who made the decision to move the graduation to the Santa Ana Star Center have a financial interest in the Star Center or the casino or in any of the Center's corporate partners? Wouldn't that constitute a conflict of interest?
March 24, 2007 9:48 PM
my comment said...
Ok I support going to the Pit
Wanda
March 24, 2007 10:06 PM
H said...
I am a senior at Rio Rancho high school, I would like to have the graduation moved back to University Arena, The Pit.
Take our graduation back to the PIT
H
March 24, 2007 10:09 PM
Anonymous said...
I'm not going to any gambling dens and neither is anyone else in my family. As far as I'm concerned, they can mail my son's diploma to him.
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March 24, 2007 10:23 PM
retired reporter said...
I'm not sure the district or anyone is going to take us seriously: how do you figure that the decision about graduation is an item for the governor to mediate? We might have a prayer if our issue affected the entire state. It doesn't, it is a local issue. This decision may be unpopular, but it is nowhere near a violation of our democratic privilege. And, appealing to media entities ensures that we'll get plenty of attention, but it won't solve anything: remember that their business is to sell newspapers and air time. We're boosting their sales, and their ratings, and that's about all. This isn't helping!
March 24, 2007 10:24 PM
echarles1234@aol.com said...
If you are against the move to return to THE PIT, email echarles1234@aol.com with your comments.
Thank you
March 24, 2007 10:25 PM
Matches Malone said...
And echarles1234@aol.com will be doing what to see that those comments actually see the light of day?
March 24, 2007 10:27 PM
Matches Malone said...
Matches Malone
email echarles1234@aol.com
March 24, 2007 10:29 PM
Matches Malone said...
See...I thought "somebody" wanted a VOTE. As long as the only votes counted are... *hey* Wait-a-minute. You're a republican, aren't you?
March 24, 2007 10:31 PM
retired reporter said...
retired reporter
what would help?
March 24, 2007 10:31 PM
Sad said...
This really is about the students, and it's most important that they graduate, right? My grad is the first in my family to graduate, and I'll be there at the Center, or there at the Pit. I think we're pretty spoiled. Kids in some countries don't get a chance like this, much less a choice.
March 24, 2007 10:32 PM
amen said...
Sad said...
This really is about the students, and it's most important that they graduate, right? My grad is the first in my family to graduate, and I'll be there at the Center, or there at the Pit. I think we're pretty spoiled. Kids in some countries don't get a chance like this, much less a choice.
March 24, 2007 10:34 PM
retired reporter said...
Has anyone tried to write a letter or have a reasonable conversation with either the Superintendent or the Board? Or did "we" just run straight to the news hounds? I apologize that I don't know the answer, I'm just now learning of it. I don't think a petition will be useful at all.
March 24, 2007 10:35 PM
Matches Malone said...
E-mail? Nah...the choice words I've got for you will go much better in person (I can play the no transcript game, too.)
See ya' tommorrow at 1:00.
March 24, 2007 10:40 PM
retired reporter said...
Retired Reporter,
if you have the time go ahead and read some of the comments people have approached the avenues you mention what else would you suggest?
March 24, 2007 10:40 PM
Oh no you didn't said...
This isn't good: accusing the district or any media of "financial interest" will close more doors than it will open. Because these companies are represented as "corporate partners" doesn't mean they have financial interest in graduation. Retired reporter is right - this stuff isn't helpful.
March 24, 2007 10:42 PM
matches malone said...
Matches Malone
What do you mean?
E-mail? Nah...the choice words I've got for you will go much better in person (I can play the no transcript game, too.)
See ya' tommorrow at 1:00.
March 24, 2007 10:46 PM
Oh no you didn't said...
Oh no you didn't,
What do you suggest?
I just read that blog,
it reads like it is in the form of a question.
Oh no you didn't said...
This isn't good: accusing the district or any media of "financial interest" will close more doors than it will open. Because these companies are represented as "corporate partners" doesn't mean they have financial interest in graduation. Retired reporter is right - this stuff isn't helpful.
March 24, 2007 10:49 PM
both retired r & oh no you didn't said...
To both retired r & oh no you didn't,
What would you both suggest?
March 24, 2007 10:51 PM
retired reporter said...
retired reporter II,
I'm not sure where to start reading. There is enough misinformation in this blog that I'm a bit perplexed. Who has done what, and how? Do you know?
I do know that involving media entities typically creates the proverbial mountain out of a molehill, when the molehill might have been easily squashed with the right-sized shovel. I think we make an effort to solve it at the source, because involving media tends to p**s off our opponent, they stop listening and we get nowhere. At this point, they have the power: they made the decision and we are being forced to live with it. What is the incentive for them to change their minds? Because we're noisy? Too much work to listen to noise.
March 24, 2007 10:51 PM
retired reporter said...
And, "they" aren't reading the blog, too much work and they aren't invested.
March 24, 2007 10:54 PM
theorist said...
retired reporter:
You're right, they aren't reading the blog, aren't listening and don't care. Now what?
March 24, 2007 10:58 PM
both retired r & oh no you didn't said...
both retired r & oh no you didn't
please take your time and email me any of your thoughts in detail echarles1234@aol.com thank you i don't know if you both are together or not? but take your time and email me what you think i like the way you processed the molehill thinking and time investment
March 24, 2007 11:02 PM
retired, oh no, and theo u all said...
u 3 r
March 24, 2007 11:05 PM
matches malone said...
i'll see ya' all at 1
March 24, 2007 11:07 PM
nate king cole can sing said said...
go back to the pit and thats it
March 24, 2007 11:10 PM
not so fast said...
I strongly suggest we just let bygones be bygones and go back to the Pit.
What you think?
March 24, 2007 11:15 PM
matches malone said...
i'll see ya' all at 1
is everyone gone already?
March 24, 2007 11:17 PM
retired reporter said...
1) I suggest that you prepare your case, and make an attempt at a calm, sincere plea. Does anyone have a relationship with the superintendent, or someone at the district or board level, or as a last resort, our local newspaper? (I once met the publisher, she seems like a reasonable person, very commmunity centric). The key here is to involve someone willing to listen, whether or not he/she is sympathetic is immaterial - you just need to get someone's ear. 2) Bring a suggested resolution forward, and be prepared to compromise. For instance, you might suggest that those grads with last names A through K hit the Center at an earlier time than those with last names L through Z. It isn't exactly the relocation we're going for, but it allows more people to attend - not all bad. For now, I'm going to kiss my grad and go to bed.
March 24, 2007 11:17 PM
thinking outside the box said...
retired reporter said...
1) I suggest that you prepare your case, and make an attempt at a calm, sincere plea. Does anyone have a relationship with the superintendent, or someone at the district or board level, or as a last resort, our local newspaper? (I once met the publisher, she seems like a reasonable person, very commmunity centric). The key here is to involve someone willing to listen, whether or not he/she is sympathetic is immaterial - you just need to get someone's ear. 2) Bring a suggested resolution forward, and be prepared to compromise. For instance, you might suggest that those grads with last names A through K hit the Center at an earlier time than those with last names L through Z. It isn't exactly the relocation we're going for, but it allows more people to attend - not all bad. For now, I'm going to kiss my grad and go to bed.
March 24, 2007 11:21 PM
matches malone said...
is everyone gone already?
March 24, 2007 11:23 PM
retired reporter said...
echarles - Thanks for asking, I saw your note after my last post. For now, this is my best suggestion, but I'm sure there are other solutions. Maybe my thoughts will spawn some others.
March 24, 2007 11:23 PM
CALL YVETTE 994-9648 today please said...
CALL YVETTE: 994-9648
EMAIL YVETTE: nanee_angel@yahoo.com
Hello everyone that would like the graduation to return to THE PIT.
We need your help Yvette has arranged for someone from the news channel to come out on Sunday the 25th to the Santa Ana Star Center at 1:00 pm to come and talk to all parents and those who would like to voice their say in this.
IT IS NOT TO LATE, DON'T GIVE UP.
Please contact Yvette at 994-9648 to help her get names and #’s to support our voices.
We need to network with everyone and present our concerns to the board and administration.
We need to show strength in numbers.
We need your help Yvette has arranged for someone from the news channel to come out on Sunday the 25th to the Santa Ana Star Center at 1:00 pm to come and talk to all parents and those who would like to voice their say in this.
PLEASE EVERYONE, PLEASE come out and help support our request to GO BACK TO THE PIT!.
Lets show the board and administration they can’t just bully us.
WE NEED TO SHOW THAT WE WANT THE PIT BACK.
Please call Yvette for more info 994-9648 thanks for all your support.
REMEMBER WE HAVE TO WORK TOGETHER.
DON'T GIVE UP THERE IS A LOT MORE FAMILIES AND PEOPLE THAT WANT IT AT THE PIT!
THE PIT WILL HOLD UP 15 TO 16,000 PEOPLE.
THAT MEANS OVER 10 TO 11,000 PEOPLE WON’T BE ABLE TO GO.
GO BACK TO THE PIT!!
Thank you,
Yvette
March 24, 2007 11:32 PM
to retired reporter said...
To Retired Reporter
email me tomorrow we can exchange more easily there thanks echarles1234@aol.com
March 24, 2007 11:38 PM
u 2 matches malone said...
echarles1234@aol.com
March 24, 2007 11:39 PM
the beatles said...
"simple words of wisdom....Let It Be....."
(at the Pit)
March 25, 2007 12:04 AM
to matches malone said...
To Matches Malone
regarding your comments please take your time and go point by point I would really like to hear all of your comments if you would like to quote the point and then respond to it that would be helpful then we can read exactly what your commenting on may I suggest you pick out 50 or more points that way we will cover a lot of ground at one time you can even be as expound on anything you like
we welcome your comments we really do
we too are looking forward to seeing you at 1
sincerely interested
echarles1234@aol.com
March 25, 2007 12:18 AM
re: gary herron said...
Please do tell, what can you tell me about him?
Ray
March 25, 2007 12:21 AM
RE: dr. sue cleveland said...
RE: Dr. Sue Cleveland
Please do tell, what can you tell me about her?
Ray
March 25, 2007 12:23 AM
RE: The Administration said...
RE: The Administration
Please do tell, what can you tell me about them?
Ray
March 25, 2007 12:24 AM
RE: School Board and President said...
RE: School Board and President
Please do tell, what can you tell me about them?
Ray
March 25, 2007 12:24 AM
PLEASE SIGN THE PETITION said...
SIGN THE PETITION
Add your name and/or comments to this thread. If you want to go BACK TO THE PIT click on "COMMENTS" below and write in the space provided. To sign up for a Google account, is completely free, or you can comment using the other options.
Contact us at cmj2nc@aol.com
March 25, 2007 12:27 AM
THE BEATLES said...
"GET BACK...GET BACK....GET BACK TO WHERE ONCE BELONG
GET BACK JO JO"
(there are talking about the PIT!
March 25, 2007 12:31 AM
please add my name said...
Please add my name to the Blog, thanks
Perry
March 25, 2007 12:35 AM
Richard White said...
I spoke in front of the school board at the March meeting outlining as many of the problems created by the decision to move the graduation to the Santa Ana Star Center that I could think of. Over the course of the week it was learned that it was not a school board idea, but an administrative decision made by the Superintendent, the Director of Activities and the Principal. We are now being told that it is a done deal because the contract is signed and the money paid. Well... to reserve the Pit, requires a contract and money paid also. They seem to have been able to get out of that one.
Isn't the Santa Ana Star Center owned by the City of Rio Rancho? The casino only paid for naming rights. The City can release the high school from the contract and return the money paid very easily.
I am really interested to know if the city government leaders put pressure on the Superintendent and Principal to move the graduation to the Center. The City government and the School board have known since the day the plans for the Center were finalized that it would not be big enough to hold graduation there, at least not while there was only one high school in Rio Rancho. It will be at least 4 years , after it opens, before Dr. Cleveland High School has a graduating class. By then it is projected that we will be right back to square one because both high schools will be vying for the title of 'Biggest High School in New Mexico' with graduating classes for each right back up to 600-700.
I am the parent of a Senior, and I am very disappointed in how this is being handled by the School board and people employed by the School district. Let's change it back to the PIT.
March 25, 2007 4:18 AM
"GET BACK" TO THE PIT said...
[sweet loretta thought she was a cleaner but she was a frying pan.]
Get back, get back.
Get back to where you once belonged
Get back, get back.
Get back to where you once belonged.
Get back Sue. go (to The Pit)
Get back, get back.
Back to where you once belonged
Get back, get back.
Back to where you once belonged.
Get back Sue.
[thanks, mo! ...on behalf of the group i hope we passed the audition.]
GEORGE
March 25, 2007 7:03 AM
RE: The Observer newspaper said...
To blog comments, I had already signed out and just read them. These are questions, if you or anyone knows I am very interested in knowing? So now what do you suggest would be helpful? I really am not interested in closing any doors. Thank you .
RE: The Observer newspaper
Check this out,
According to the Santa Ana Website, the OBSERVER are "Corporate Partners", with BOTH the casino and the center, have you noticed they have yet to do an actual news report on a Parent that is upset with the graduation, Both the Journal and Tribune interviewed Parents, right, then how come our own newspaper has not interviewed anyone?
List of "Corporate Partners" of The Santa Ana Star Center:
SANTA ANA STAR CASINO
THE RIO RANCHO OBSERVER
99.3 KOB FM
770 KKOB
Mew Mexico's CW
Perfection Honda
JohnnyBoards LLC
First Community Bank
Qwest
Crystal Springs
O'Hare's Grille & Pub / Hot Tamales
Rio Rancho Printing
AND
Does anyone know if the people who made the decision to move the graduation to the Santa Ana Star Center have a financial interest in the Star Center or the casino or in any of the Center's corporate partners? Wouldn't that constitute a conflict of interest?
March 25, 2007 7:34 AM
06 Parent knows had said...
"YES the district should have come up with a variety of options and make them available to the public, obtain feedback and base the decision on that feedback in combination with sound financial decisions (as well as access, parking, etc.). YES the timing should have been better. YES the district has not given the public a voice. YES it should probably be moved back to the PIT for this year's graduation."
March 25, 2007 7:39 AM
ME TOO said...
Hello, I am interested in knowing too?
RE: Gary Herron
RE: Dr. Sue Cleveland
RE: The Administration
RE: School Board and President
What can you tell me about all of them?
Rick
March 25, 2007 7:51 AM
go back Sue Cleveland said...
Did you know when a person is elected to our school board; they have to swear an oath?
YES, THEY LITERALLY SWEAR TO UPHOLD BOTH THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES AS WELL AS THE CONSTITUTION OF THE HIGH SCHOOL!
I THINK THAT IS REALLY GREAT!
“We the people of the United States, in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America”
A blogger commented how this whole graduation change stepped on people’s rights.
The entire history of our government was to escape bad government, bad and unfair decisions, bad practices, bad leaders.
What really bothers me is our children are involved.
The event is an important chapter in their lives.
They are seeing first hand another history lesson.
Democracy did not play a part in this poorly planned change and that is why I am joining in on this push to address the graduation.
Even if this situation affected two people it is wrong.
After reading the newspaper and reading several emails this is affecting thousands.
I completely see why it was changed and there are those that support the change.
But when you consider how this was handled then you scratch your head and wonder how well paid, educated people forgot the opening lines of THEIR Constitution, they forgot their history and at the expense of our children.
What also stands out and causes me to cringe is the very same people have charge over our children.
They will read these words and not understand what they did and what they are doing is wrong.
These same individuals will look in the mirror and say, "I'm ok".
Our children are our most precious part of our community and should not be taken for granted at any expense.
The contract is now the excuse they are so diligently clinging to and hiding behind in order to right their wrongs.
The Star Center should also know their history and let the school out of this contract.
It should have never been about the money it should have always been about the children, our children.
March 25, 2007 8:24 AM
WOW said...
There is a lot of wine, worry and song here.
Keep up the good work!
We support the petition
Shawn
March 25, 2007 8:31 AM
Takin it to the streets said...
You dont know me but Im your brother
I was raised here in this living hell
You dont know my kind in your world
Fairly soon the time will tell
You, telling me the things youre gonna do for me
I aint blind and I dont like what I think I see
Takin it to THE PIT
Takin it to THE PIT
Takin it to THE PIT
Takin it to THE PIT
Take this message to my brother
You will find him everywhere
Wherever people live together
Tired of being treated unfair
You, telling me the things youre gonna do for me
I aint blind and I dont like what I think I see
Takin it to THE PIT
Takin it to THE PIT
Takin it to THE PIT
Takin it to THE PIT
March 25, 2007 8:40 AM
TODAY CALL YVETTE 994-9648 today said...
CALL YVETTE: 994-9648
EMAIL YVETTE: nanee_angel@yahoo.com
Hello everyone that would like the graduation to return to THE PIT.
We need your help Yvette has arranged for someone from the news channel to come out on Sunday the 25th to the Santa Ana Star Center at 1:00 pm to come and talk to all parents and those who would like to voice their say in this.
IT IS NOT TO LATE, DON'T GIVE UP.
Please contact Yvette at 994-9648 to help her get names and #’s to support our voices.
We need to network with everyone and present our concerns to the board and administration.
We need to show strength in numbers.
We need your help Yvette has arranged for someone from the news channel to come out on Sunday the 25th to the Santa Ana Star Center at 1:00 pm to come and talk to all parents and those who would like to voice their say in this.
PLEASE EVERYONE, PLEASE come out and help support our request to GO BACK TO THE PIT!.
Lets show the board and administration they can’t just bully us.
WE NEED TO SHOW THAT WE WANT THE PIT BACK.
Please call Yvette for more info 994-9648 thanks for all your support.
REMEMBER WE HAVE TO WORK TOGETHER.
DON'T GIVE UP THERE IS A LOT MORE FAMILIES AND PEOPLE THAT WANT IT AT THE PIT!
THE PIT WILL HOLD UP 15 TO 16,000 PEOPLE.
THAT MEANS OVER 10 TO 11,000 PEOPLE WON’T BE ABLE TO GO.
GO BACK TO THE PIT!!
Thank you,
Yvette
March 25, 2007 8:43 AM
no contract said...
I'm not sure there ever was a reservation or contract at the Pit. At this time last year, parents were complaining that the Center was built with no consideration for graduation, i.e., it wasn't big enough. If there was no contract, there was nothing to get out of - you might check into it. Really, if you're going to accuse the Superintendent or the Administration, you'll have better luck if your information is factual - be sure. They won't listen or react to suspicion, it means nothing.
March 25, 2007 8:43 AM
tell me more said...
“parents were complaining that the Center was built with no consideration for graduation, i.e., it wasn't big enough”
March 25, 2007 8:49 AM
Rosalia said...
I have a question for those who are against this petition:
How is a decision to return the graduation to The Pit adversely affecting you?
March 25, 2007 8:49 AM
matches malone said...
i'll see ya' all at 1
March 25, 2007 8:51 AM
Rosalia, again said...
...continued
Sorry, I realize this forum is reserved for people who are in favor of moving the graduation back to The Pit. But I can't, for the life of me, figure out why it would cause undo stress to anyone if the graduation were held at The Pit, where it has been held for several years now.
March 25, 2007 8:54 AM
retired reporter said...
Since the City owns the Center, it has a reason to keep graduation here. So, how does it benefit the governing body to put pressure on the Superintendent or the Administration? It doesn't. It isn't in their best interest. If you want anyone to listen to you, you need to present some benefit in moving graduation back to the Pit. Think: how does moving back to the Pit benefit benefit the Administration, the Governing Body, or anyone outside this group of families? If you can answer this question, you have something to talk to the administration about. Until then, you're just making noise, and noise is meaningless. If the answer is, "We'll stop making noise and go away", they think "So what?" They aren't listening to you anyway. I don't know the answer, but I think you need to find it if you want to be successful in your quest.
March 25, 2007 8:55 AM
ooker said...
This kinda’ reminds of a poker game I was in,
And the “deck was stacked” this is worse they’re holding all the cards and never dealt them out
March 25, 2007 9:01 AM
retired reporter said...
Tell me more: I'm paraphrasing, but I remember "Rants" in the Observer newspaper from parents with words to this effect, i.e., "what were they thinking" in building a Center not large enough to accommodate graduates. I suspect that the Administration may be thinking they were doing the "right" thing. I need to do a bit more research on the archived specifics, my retention isn't what it once was.
So, my thought is that a calm, rational direct approach may go a bit further than a noisy one. It does appear that this case has been presented (see Mr. White's blog). If the Administration didn't respond in the manner you hoped, chances are that they won't, but it seems working WITH them to attempt a solution might be more productive.
If the issue is that everyone wants to attend but there isn't enough space, then perhaps you might suggest that the space be used so that everyone can attend. If a solution exists that works, then a move "back" to the Pit wouldn't be necessary. Take a page from the Center: if a concert sells out for one night, they add an extra night to accommodate more attendees.
And, to answer how the decision impacts me, I'm not sure I'm necessarily for or against the move. I do know that it impacts all of us in different ways and for many reasons, and I may be a bit too focused on the bigger pictur: keeping our gross receipts tax monies here instead of sending it to ABQ helps our city government to pay for things we all want: sidewalks, parks, improvements, street lights, paved streets, etc. I realize this doesn't make us feel better about the short-term, but it does help us all in the long-term - we don't want to pay higher property taxes for such things, right? If we keep our gross receipts money here, we help to defray some of these costs.
Okay, enough space devoted to my rambling.
March 25, 2007 9:22 AM
History Lesson said...
Some of the questions being raised here are too far out in left field (conspiracy theories, etc.) to even begin to answer. There are, however, a couple of them that I actually do know the answer to.
1st - RRPS did not have to break a contract with the pit. After last year's fiasco, it was never reserved or contracted for. The complaints and nasty letters from parents were more than loud enough to make this seem like a minor dust-up.
2nd - No...the city did not put pressure on the district to have the graduation ceremony here in Rio Rancho. It was parents. The district received complaints from parents about the pit every year the graduation was held there. Those complaints reached a crescendo last year.
While the comments here all seem to be accusing the school system of not listening to parents' concerns, we are actually all in this boat precisely because the district DID listen to and respond to parents.
March 25, 2007 9:22 AM
UNM Pit. said...
I agree with the petition and would like to vote to go back to the UNM Pit.
Jeannie
March 25, 2007 9:56 AM
Oh brother said...
So the administration moved the graduation because they are afraid of being booed? Well, that just ices the cake.
I don't need my Magic 8-ball to tell me that they will be booed at this year's graduation.
Dear Mr. VonAncken,
If that many people are booing you, maybe you should look in the mirror.
love,
a concerned party
March 25, 2007 10:09 AM
History Lesson said...
HELLO,
Thanks, what else could you let us know about this?
March 25, 2007 10:43 AM
yaragon said...
this is Yvette again and I want to thank all the parents,graduates and comunity that showed up to the news conferance at the santa ana areana which was held today at 1 with action 7 news we had a pretty good outcome about 26 total came out the news talked to some of us and we were able to let them know what we thought about this very poor decision that was made to move graduation to the sana ana I dont know if anyone had a chace to read the rio rancho observer and the tribune but these articles are stating that we get riled up for nothing and what are we teaching our children to be against the board if you get a chance get these papers and read then call those papers and see if they will write your comment about what they put about what we are doing what they are failing to do is realize the importance of why we are doing this because we have taught our children values and they do have the right to speak and have their voice heard I will update other information as we get it we have started a petition and if you would like to sign it please call me and I will met you to get it signed my number again is 994-9648 any other ideas let me know for we need to let them know that we are not making noise this is a very important issue to our graduates as well as all their support
March 25, 2007 2:00 PM
toby said...
I am adding to this blog to support the return to the Pit. I agree with the points of view listed here. Especially that this decision was unfair.
Thank you.
March 25, 2007 3:23 PM
Gary, please pass the popcorn said...
I read some of the comments here and will read all of them as I get the time to do so. I also read some of today’s news comments.
Gary, Mike and Genie and anonymous persons that all spoke their minds, I’d like to thank you.
There are some of us that would like to respectfully ask the administration to reconsider and some of us that are more vocal and some of us that have our “facts” wrong, and some of us that are like some of you, anonymous.
Be advised, ALL of us are very aware now of where you stand and I for one appreciate that you pointed out any misinformation.
However, one thing you ALL fail to do is address each concern on it’s own merit and then as a whole.
You target only certain ones, why is that?
Hear me out, we’ve heard your logic and the administration’s logic, somehow “we didn’t get a vote. Let’s not worry about it” does not, well, make sense!
That is a very critical part of this decision.
Perhaps an important question to each of you is should this matter have gone to some form of input/poll/vote? I’d like to know your answer.
And I’d like to know the answer from the seniors, parents and guardians that this affected.
Gary, regarding your comment about a vote, I’m sure we could come up with something.
“Let me play devil’s advocate” too, all anyone would ask is that it is fair process.
Hear me out; have a vote of some sort, just to make sure we ALL got this decision right.
You all really wrote some things that were fine and I concur with.
But you also wrote some things that made me realize you don’t get the big picture nor the little one either.
Please accept my apologies if we agree to disagree but that is how you see it and that is how I see it.
I’m not in your shoes and you are not in mine.
Gary, you actually wrote 10 year olds and under “should have stayed home”?
I don’t want to have my figures wrong or did you mean, 9 year olds and under “should have stayed home”?
I hope your foot is not that big?
I hope your quote gets passed around to every mother and father across this country.
May I respectfully ask you, who are you to discriminate against age?
(Perhaps I should count my blessing you don’t have S. Cleveland, R. Von Ancken and B. Duncan’s position)
I wonder now Gary, were you part of the think tank to get the decision through? Just asking.
“For weeks”, you ask, it has gone on “for weeks” because this decision adversely affects people.
It will continue to go on for weeks, “Batch up some popcorn” and save some room on the “couch” for Mike, Genie and "your extended posse".
“Gripes, whining, greedy”, please, “Get Over It”
Lucy
March 25, 2007 5:13 PM
Bravo said...
I agree with the petition.
Especially that this decision was unfair.
Thank you. Fran
March 25, 2007 5:33 PM
before any contracts said...
Note:
RRPS received my comment at the very beginning when this all started - and before any contracts were signed!
The decision to move the 2007 graduation was handled improperly and was the wrong decision. Parents should have been surveyed prior to the decision. Please let me know who was responsible for this decision. The current class sizes are too large to try to graduate anywhere smaller than the Pit. My wife and I have 5 children, one of which graduates this year. My parents, who have already bought airline tickets from Ohio, my wife's parent's and a couple sisters plan to attend just like the past two years. Who do I get to leave home with my allotment of six tickets? I know there will be many other people in the same situation. Do you really expect people to return their six tickets? The only chance I have of letting my family share the occasion is to find some friend who isn't using all of their tickets. I highly recommend you reconsider the decision and keep the Pit location while you still can.
March 25, 2007 5:35 PM
yaragon said...
Attention: Seniors, Parents, Guardians, Families, Relatives, Students and concerned persons
We are a group of families that would like to have the Class of 2007 Graduation returned to "The PIT."
At minimum, let’s put this matter to a fair vote.
We are respectfully asking Dr. Sue Cleveland to make the decision to return to "The PIT."
RRPS has broken contracts before and can break this contract now and go "BACK TO THE PIT."
We need all persons that want the Graduation to be returned to "The PIT" to let your voice be heard.
In an unprecedented administrative decision, input was NOT allowed, requested or regarded by everyone affected. Only certain voices were heard.
This last minute decision affected more than 10,000 people.
We have heard all the reasons and explanations given by the administration and strongly feel they do not outweigh the fact that a fair process did not occur in the first place concerning this matter.
Please go online now. We have every right to be heard. "It’s not over till it’s over." BACK TO the Pit
FAMILY AND friends of Rio Rancho High School graduates DISCUSSION GROUP
March 25, 2007 5:36 PM
TO: History Lesson said...
HELLO HS,
I checked back in to see if you responded.
Thanks, what else could you let us know about this?
March 25, 2007 5:38 PM
Monte said...
This is not right.
Count us in.
March 25, 2007 5:42 PM
graduate of 2007 said...
so who gives them the right to say were we are going to graduate? we are graduating now not them they had there chance to graduate already. my mom has really supported me in trying to change it to the pit and i am really thank full to her for that, what we seniors really need to do is get together and show them that we do have a say in what we want for graduation why do they get one and we dont? is it cause they are part of the school board it still doesnt give them the right to do that. if they dont change it they are going to have an even bigger problem with the families that dont get in. the traffic is going to be really bad and if you think about it they dont have enough parking for everyone because every or almost every senior has a car and will be driving to graduation. you know they arent gonna let us park in front of the arena you know they will probably be saving that for the staff. i dont think that is fair either why do they get reserved parkin we are the graduates not them we should be able to park closer to the enterance at the arena. we need all the support we can get to get it changed back to the pit. OUR OPINIONS DO MATTER AND WE WANT THE PIT. MAY 19TH SHOULDNT BE A DAY OF DISAPPOINTMENT FOR US GRADUATES IT SHOULD BE A TIME TO CELEBRATE.
March 25, 2007 6:19 PM
Anonymous said...
Uncle a said
Going back to the Pit is a great idea. For many students this is there only claim to fame. Relatives would like to attend the ceremony and the Pit can hold more people who obviously would like to attend. Having a graduation with limited seating is archaic and so bourgeois. Step up to the plate and give family a chance to celebate this momentous occasion. Many have to travel great distances. Do you remember how they treated Mary and Joseph, there was no room at the inn. Don't do the same to the greates class of Rio Rancho's history, the class of 2007.
March 25, 2007 6:19 PM
common sense said...
This e-mail is regarding the Common Sense article written in the Rio Rancho Journal.
Being a student at Rio Rancho High School and waking up to read this article from you both, Mike and Genie Ryan, made me think of what common sense you both must have in writing this article.
Whether or not you grew up in big families that fully supported you through your life, you clearly don’t understand the gripe those of us with big families are having because of the ticket limit.
I do think it is a great idea to hold graduation in my wonderful hometown, but it’s a shame that all of the people I want there may not get to go.
Is it really my fault that I have a large immediate family?
Should I as a senior really have to pick which family members should go with the extra tickets I have dug up by myself.
Also, uniforms were voted on when I was in fifth grade and we were just supposed to be “trying them out;” so maybe that was the outrage over that.
Are you saying people can’t speak up if they don’t agree with the way you think?
Because that is how it sounds.
Also, regarding parents voicing opinions on test scores, drop out rates, and curriculum; this point in your article has nothing to do with the students that are graduating and shouldn’t even be mentioned because those parents that are outraged have kids that obviously didn’t drop out and had good test scores.
Personally I believe Rio Rancho’s curriculum is great.
Furthermore, your other huge point that has nothing to do with the GRADUATING SENIORS is parents caring about what their children are learning.
The seniors that are graduating have already learned, hence the reason for a graduation ceremony.
Your are right though that parents need to be involved and I’m glad mine are in trying to somehow make my very large, supportive family attend my graduation.
Also, don’t assume these “griping” parents don’t care about what their children are learning because you have no right to and it has nothing to do with why they are “griping” in the first place.
If you don’t see what the “big deal” is about me not having my family at my ceremony then you might as well suggest not having a ceremony at all, because you must not comprehend the point of what a graduation ceremony is.
You also state you don’t understand why parents wont let it go?
It’s because we still can’t have all of our family attend, DUH!
You’re right about making graduation special for the graduates, but what you don’t understand is part of making it special is having my whole family there which is why we’re still “griping”.
I hope you understand the hypocrisy of your article.
I do hope my parents take your advice and become involved and make my graduation even more special; and that is by continuing to challenge the change of venues.
Also you say this will be the first graduation in Rio Rancho, then you go to say Independence is.
I’m truly sorry of the hypocrisy and confusion of your article, the lack of common sense two human beings have in putting together this article, the Journals decision to hire two people who clearly state they just don’t understand what they are writing about; as you clearly mention in your article several times.
Sincerely I hope you’ll get some common sense, be able to understand your topic and just not worry about the vehemence, the passion of Rio Rancho’s families over this very important topic, better yet “Get Over It”.
2007 Senior
March 25, 2007 7:17 PM
Gary's World said...
Gary Herron is completely out of line with his philosophy regarding who can and who can’t attend graduations.
Please make sure you send this out to everyone in your email address book, every Blog space, every "my space" location, hey, even share it with strangers you pass on the street.
I just read this in the newspaper and then a comment about it here on the Blog.
I don’t want to say anything mean spirited here but this needs to be passed on.
Also, run down the article in the Observer’s 3/25/07 Sunday issue and read all of it.
Part of BLOG COMMENT:
Gary, you actually wrote 10 year olds and under “should have stayed home”?
I don’t want to have my figures wrong or did you mean, 9 year olds and under “should have stayed home”?
I hope your foot is not that big?
I hope your quote gets passed around to every mother and father across this country.
May I respectfully ask you, who are you to discriminate against age?
(Perhaps I should count my blessing you don’t have S. Cleveland, R. Von Ancken and B. Duncan’s position)
I wonder now Gary, were you part of the think tank to get the decision through? Just asking.
March 25, 2007 7:42 PM
chuck said...
Congratulations to everyone that has commented on the Web Log. It is truly empowering to see individuals and families come together like this. We would like to go back to the Pit.
Chuck
March 25, 2007 8:26 PM
Jesus H. Christ said...
Still hoping to get tickets for 12 of my closest friends and advisors. I think Mom and Dad are more than willing to sacrifice their seats, but Lazarus is my wing man, and I cannot leave him to the elements.
Remember, when I said what you do unto the least of these, you do unto Me? And remember when I said suffer the little children to come unto Me? I was talking to you, Gary.
Don't make Me come down there!
March 25, 2007 8:51 PM
R U smarter than a 5th grader? said...
Every 5th grader knows that it's rude to invite some of your family, and leave some of your family out.
It's all well and good to say, "Don't invite your whole family." But what if they all send you $20 on your birthday? And, duh! they are going to know which ones you chose to save tickets for.
Who needs that kind of grief?
March 25, 2007 9:18 PM
yaragon said...
This is Yvette again and I want to thank all the parents, graduates, and community that showed up to the news conference at the Santa Ana Center, which was held today at 1 with Action 7 News.
We had a pretty good outcome--about 26 total came out. The news talked to some of us and we were able to let them know what we thought about this very poor decision that was made to move graduation to the Santa Ana Center.
I don’t know if anyone had a chance to read the Rio Rancho Observer and the Journal/Rio Rancho section, but these articles are stating that we “get riled up for nothing” and “why are we teaching our children to be against the board?”
If you get a chance, get these papers and read them. Then call those papers and see if they will write your comment about what they put about what we are doing. What they are failing to do is realize the importance of why we are doing this. We have taught our children values and they DO have the right to speak and have their voices heard.
I will update other information as we get it.
We have started a petition and if you would like to sign it, please call me and I will meet you to get it signed. My number again is 994-9648. Any other ideas? Let me know, because we need to let them know that WE ARE NOT JUST MAKING NOISE. This is a very important issue to our graduates as well as all of us involved, we are their support.
March 25, 2007 9:19 PM
R U smarter than a 5th grader? said...
I'm just saying, if you are smarter than a 5th grader, like me, you will sign this petition to GO BACK TO THE PIT!!!
March 25, 2007 9:22 PM
Way to go common sense: said...
Way to go common sense:
I think you should try out for Mike and Genie Ryan's job.
I realize the got u by 55 years in age, but the Journal needs new blood anywho.
They obviously don't know what they are writing about.
Wonder if they graduated?
fellow Senior 2007
March 25, 2007 9:23 PM
r u smarter then a 5TH grader? said...
Gary Herron
Dr. Sue Cleveland
The Administration
School Board and President
March 25, 2007 9:25 PM
the gambler said...
This kinda’ reminds of a poker game I was in,
And the “deck was stacked”
this is worse
they’re holding all the cards
and never dealt them out
March 25, 2007 9:30 PM
Matches Malone said...
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March 25, 2007 10:13 PM
To Matches Malone said...
To Matches Malone
regarding your comments please take your time and go point by point I would really like to hear all of your comments if you would like to quote the point and then respond to it that would be helpful then we can read exactly what your commenting on may I suggest you pick out 50 or more points that way we will cover a lot of ground at one time you can even be as expound on anything you like
we welcome your comments we really do
we too are looking forward to seeing you at 1
sincerely interested
echarles1234@aol.com
March 25, 2007 10:14 PM
"greedy" Seniors said...
Being a senior is very stressful because of everything we have to get done through the year and down the stretch and for me the graduation change makes my senior year a MILLION TIMES more stressful.
Now I don’t get to have ALL of my loved ones see me graduate. Thanks for ruining one of the most important events of my life.
I am sorry we are a very close family.
I was really looking forward to graduation when I saw my cousins (with our ENTIRE family) graduate last year at the PIT from West Mesa and Eldorado, but now I'm not because not even half of them will be there.
What a great way to show your appreciation to one of the largest graduating classes.
The newspaper read, that I was being "greedy"?
Maybe the Star center should let us out of the contract.
Who now is being greedy?
March 25, 2007 10:22 PM
Doreen said...
Families and graduates have been discriminated against,
(along with anyone under the age of 10 years old per Gary Herron)
Not everyone was allowed to have a voice in this decision.
Only those visionaries that always wanted it here in RR.
Only those that "griped, whined and were "greedy" the very loudest.
This deal was highly one sided.
Go back to the Pit.
Doreen
March 25, 2007 10:34 PM
gary herron said...
Per your article you referred to yourself as the "devil's advocate", re: the vote. This idea was submitted along time ago and can be fine tuned Gary, what do you think?
"An editor and the administration all referred to the “many” that wanted this, what is the problem with putting this to a vote, right now?
You will all find out the actual “many” want this event at “The Pit”.
Our Seniors will have to revert back to their grade school days, you print up what 750 notes home with 2 boxes to check on the note - “The Pit” or no “Pit”, parents and guardians along with each Senior will vote.
Unlike the decree that has been imposed upon everyone, where only a certain “many” voices were heard and acted on, simply, that decision that act in itself is so wrong and so very unfair, this is America right? (The school board is supposed to uphold the Constitution of the United States, just ask them).
Make sure you number each one of these notes that way they can be counted fairly.
Add a few lines so the Graduate and their Parent/Guardian can print and sign.
If you have a better idea, wonderful as long as the vote process is fair.
If the vote comes back no “Pit”, then the editor, the administration and the so called “many” had a finger on the pulse and IF the vote comes back “The Pit” then Hallelujah! Times a wastin’!"
March 26, 2007 8:12 AM
Gary, please pass the popcorn said...
I read some of the comments here and will read all of them as I get the time to do so. I also read some of today’s news comments.
Gary, Mike and Genie and anonymous persons that all spoke their minds, I’d like to thank you.
There are some of us that would like to respectfully ask the administration to reconsider and some of us that are more vocal and some of us that have our “facts” wrong, and some of us that are like some of you, anonymous.
Be advised, ALL of us are very aware now of where you stand and I for one appreciate that you pointed out any misinformation.
However, one thing you ALL fail to do is address each concern on it’s own merit and then as a whole.
You target only certain ones, why is that?
Hear me out, we’ve heard your logic and the administration’s logic, somehow “we didn’t get a vote. Let’s not worry about it” does not, well, make sense!
That is a very critical part of this decision.
Perhaps an important question to each of you is should this matter have gone to some form of input/poll/vote? I’d like to know your answer.
And I’d like to know the answer from the seniors, parents and guardians that this affected.
Gary, Mike and Genie and anonymous:
Regarding your comment about a vote, I’m sure we could come up with something.
“Let me play devil’s advocate” too, all anyone would ask is that it is fair process.
Hear me out; have a vote of some sort, just to make sure we ALL got this decision right.
You all really wrote some things that were fine and I concur with.
But you also wrote some things that made me realize you don’t get the big picture nor the little one either.
Please accept my apologies if we agree to disagree but that is how you see it and that is how I see it.
I’m not in your shoes and you are not in mine.
Gary, you actually wrote 10 year olds and under “should have stayed home”?
I don’t want to have my figures wrong or did you mean, 9 year olds and under “should have stayed home”?
I hope your foot is not that big?
I hope your quote gets passed around to every mother and father across this country.
May I respectfully ask you, who are you to discriminate against age?
Who are you to tell ANYONE who goes and who stays?
(Perhaps I should count my blessing you don’t have S. Cleveland, R. Von Ancken and B. Duncan’s position)
I wonder now Gary, were you part of the think tank to get the decision through that changed this from The Pit? Just asking.
“For weeks”, you ask, it has gone on “for weeks” because this decision adversely affects people.
It will continue to go on for weeks, “Batch up some popcorn” and save some room on the “couch” for Mike, Genie and "your extended posse".
“Gripes, whining, greedy”, please, “Get Over It”
Lucy
March 26, 2007 8:26 AM
Gary's World said...
Gary Herron is completely out of line with his philosophy regarding who can and who can’t attend graduations.
Please make sure you send this out to everyone in your email address book, every Blog space, every "my space" location, hey, even share it with strangers you pass on the street.
I just read this in the newspaper and then a comment about it here on the Blog.
I don’t want to say anything mean spirited here but this needs to be passed on.
Also, run down the article in the Observer’s 3/25/07 Sunday issue and read all of it.
Part of BLOG COMMENT:
Gary, you actually wrote 10 year olds and under “should have stayed home”?
I don’t want to have my figures wrong or did you mean, 9 year olds and under “should have stayed home”?
I hope your foot is not that big?
I hope your quote gets passed around to every mother and father across this country.
May I respectfully ask you, who are you to discriminate against age?
Who are you to tell ANYONE who goes and who stays?
(Perhaps I should count my blessing you don’t have S. Cleveland, R. Von Ancken and B. Duncan’s position)
I wonder now Gary, were you part of the think tank to get the decision through that changed this from The Pit? Just asking.
March 26, 2007 8:31 AM
G. Herron said...
"stupid is as stupid does"
F. Gump
March 26, 2007 8:33 AM
Senior said...
I like that the venue is closer to home, but I would rather have my entire family and grandparents and relatives see my special day.
They are the people that helped me get there!
It’s despicable that the administration did this at the last minute and without anyone’s consent.
March 26, 2007 8:37 AM
RRPS said...
You don't want a vote because:
"YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH"!!!!!!!!!
Jack
March 26, 2007 8:41 AM
Gary Herron, Mike & Genie Ryan & anon said...
Gary Herron, Mike and Genie Ryan and anonymous declared in the newspaper that:
The Graduating Class of 2007 and their families - “Gripe, whine, and are greedy”
Last I checked this is America, obviously something is wrong in the city of vision if just one or two or 70000 people for that matter want to raise their concerns.
No matter how trivial you think it is.
You are doing your best to condemn, censor, insult and discriminate anyone that does not think like you!
I have a brother fighting for our country right now, serving proudly. He helped secure elections so people could vote and helped remove a person in power that punished ANYONE that did not think like him!
You are so worried who did or did not have their facts right, you don’t even understand why we are asking for this matter to be properly addressed. We know the reasons and we want this addressed.
NEWS FLASH: This matter was NEVER voted on and people have every right to question, challenge and complain about anything they don’t agree with!
I am only eighteen years old but I can see as clear as day just from the tone of your stories and rhetoric you have no compassion for persons that don’t think like you:
You went on to belittle a person not quite as knowledgeable as you regarding the district process.
You went on to dictate who could or could not attend a graduation based on age.
You went on to dismiss there was no vote allowed just like the tyrant we just removed felt about the importance of elections in his country.
You went on to condemn anyone that dare have a large family or in need of extra tickets.
You went on to let us know how annoyed you were because this has “continued for weeks” but for the life of you, could not understand why it has? You confirmed how much out of the loop you are because you actually had to ask why it is “so important that the gripes (not concerns you wrote ‘gripes’) have continued”? Just by the fact this has continued should raise a red flag with you that something is wrong. Why don’t you get all the facts, the real facts then you will have the answer.
You gloated you would only have 4 in your group at the graduation and you SPECIFICALLY referenced our “posse”.
Spell this anonymous, “r-a-c-i-s-m”
pos·se (pŏs'ē) n.
1. A group of people summoned by a sheriff to aid in law enforcement.
2. A search party.
3. Slang A gang involved in crimes such as running guns and illegal narcotics trafficking.
4. Slang A Street and hip hop music term for gang members.
You sure as heck were not referring to 1 and 2 or “the get-along gang”.
Where you too afraid to use the word(s) you really wanted to use?
You completely insulted grandparents, brothers, sisters, loved ones, anyone that had to travel and relegated them to a couch with popcorn and soda.
You mocked us with “ticket scalpers”, “Psst, buddy, who needs 4 tickets”
You automatically lumped all of us into a group that fails to vote or support our schools or only when it suits us. Wouldn’t that be “pre-judging” us?
You wrote that we “gripe, get over it”
You wrote that we “whined”
You wrote that we are “greedy”
You wrote the we “shocked and embarrassed you”
Then in your supreme all knowing wisdom you topped it off with a large quote telling all parents how to raise their children!
Is it possible that it is you that is “greedy”, it is you that are “griping”, it is you that “whine”, it is you that are prejudice, and that this is really all about YOU?
I have learned more about our school, our leaders, people, right and wrong, the news media, prejudice, my family and life just in the last two weeks compared to all my years in high school.
2007 Senior
March 26, 2007 11:50 AM
Dr., answer our questions said...
“What we have here is failure to communicate”
This is what I would like to see, Dr. Cleveland respond to each of these comments. We would need someone to combine each concern and question because some of them overlap one another. Then however many there is let her respond. How come she has not given an in-depth interview? I believe she knows this is wrong, I’ve always heard she is a good person. Then how come she is not letting any parents talk to her? They are using buffers with VonAncken, Duncan, and Vesely. The newspaper rarely has her comments it is usually one of those three.
Again, have her answer the questions.
Gerry
March 26, 2007 12:41 PM
Great comment said...
Great comment
“What we have here is failure to communicate”
This has been said over and over again. I think because we are short on time we need to put this to a fair vote. No hanky panky. The school board is not going to back us, if they were they already would have. They are all stalling just by the fact they have not allowed a vote by anyone formally. They know their decision would lose in a fair vote. This has power play written all over it. Everyone is pointing fingers but they are not budging. Even the Rio Rancho media is supporting the bad decision and criticizing any little comment that is made.
Keep passing the word along The Pit is still available. All that nonsense with TV feed is garbage and it confirms they messed up. The Rio Rancho media is NOW trying to say that The Pit is only going to hold 11,000, they are still over 60% short! 60% percent is still a lot of people that can’t be there and want to be there. I also think The Pit would hold more then 11,000 people the media has their figures wrong. Also, they said there are 4 ways to get to the Star Center, please draw me a map. You have to drive through Rio Rancho to get to a 2 lane road, and when you get there it is 1 way in and 1 way out. I know, I go to the hockey games.
Abe
March 26, 2007 1:15 PM
Gary Herron, Mike & Genie Ryan & anon said...
Gary Herron, Mike and Genie Ryan and anonymous......
Whoa nelly, I just read your story and saw the pictures they have for you on file that they use for your story line.
Here you all go:
Don't Worry, Be Happy
Here is a little song I wrote
You might want to sing it note for note
Don't worry be happy
In every life we have some trouble
When you worry you make it double
Don't worry, be happy......
Ain't got no place to lay your head
Somebody came and took your bed
Don't worry, be happy
The land lord say your rent is late
He may have to litigate
Don't worry, be happy
Look at me I am happy
Don't worry, be happy
Here I give you my phone number
When you worry call me
I make you happy
Don't worry, be happy
Ain't got no cash, ain't got no style
Ain't got not girl to make you smile
But don't worry be happy
Cause when you worry
Your face will frown
And that will bring everybody down
So don't worry, be happy (now).....
There is this little song I wrote
I hope you learn it note for note
Like good little children
Don't worry, be happy
Listen to what I say
In your life expect some trouble
But when you worry
You make it double
Don't worry, be happy......
Don't worry don't do it, be happy
Put a smile on your face
Don't bring everybody down like this
Don't worry, it will soon past
Whatever it is
Don't worry, be happy.............
Bobby
March 26, 2007 3:13 PM
770 Graduates said...
KOAT-TV in their 5PM newscast on 3/26, just announced 770 seniors will graduate.
RRPS originally stated 700.
We were advised 750.
Now today they are stating 770.
We heard the year started with over 930 seniors and some thought at least 800 would be graduating.
If anyone else hears anything different please update this web log.
Rudy
March 26, 2007 4:30 PM
770 Graduates said...
Hey....
That newscast also said Sue Cleveland in a phone conversation said no to the Pit.
We need to meet with the good Doctor
Pass it on.
Jim
March 26, 2007 4:39 PM
Luis said...
I agree to return to the Pit
March 26, 2007 8:16 PM
Alley said...
We want our family to attend the graduation and 8 tickets will not be enough!
Rio Rancho admin needs to reconsider their decision!
March 26, 2007 8:56 PM
Barb said...
“BACK TO THE PIT”
RRPS we want this graduation at THE PIT, thank you.
March 26, 2007 9:01 PM
The Pit said...
For the "good of the order" we are asking that the graduation is returned to it's original location
John
March 26, 2007 9:03 PM
Patrick said...
Regarding your current strategy to increase attendance by opening the PAC at the high school and having a TV feed. Seriously, this reactive move actually confirms you are aware that you made a poor decision. What about the extended family members from out of state that have already booked plane tickets? You’re telling the parents sorry pick and choose your favorite and who cares if feelings are hurt. That is awfully callous of you! The graduation should be moved back to The Pit so every family member that want to be there can attend!
March 26, 2007 9:11 PM
Candy said...
RRPS moved the graduation.
You never asked me?
You only let certain people contact you and let you know what they wanted.
Then you did what they wanted.
And what you wanted.
But you never asked me.
Or actually anyone I know.
March 26, 2007 9:17 PM
Joseph said...
We support returning the graduation to The Pit.
March 26, 2007 9:20 PM
Koat-TV Newscast said...
KOAT-TV coverage - Rio Rancho graduation moving from its original venue at The Pit. There's a short commercial right before the main story.
FIRST STORY:
www.koat.com/video/11177714/index.html?taf=alb
SECOND STORY:
http://www.koat.com/video/11334805/index.html?taf=alb
THIRD STORY:
www.koat.com/video/11390851/index.html?taf=alb
March 26, 2007 9:41 PM
Rhonda said...
BACK TO THE PIT
March 26, 2007 9:42 PM
Yes said...
We support the return of the 2007 graduation
Reece
March 26, 2007 9:45 PM
M said...
Yes lets go back
Marcus
March 26, 2007 9:45 PM
Carol said...
We agree with the petition
Carol
March 26, 2007 9:45 PM
Nicky said...
go back to the Pit
March 26, 2007 9:47 PM
Martha said...
Next year or when you open the new school not this year
March 26, 2007 9:48 PM
Vince said...
Too bad RR, you shoulda stayed at the Pit. Break the contract
March 26, 2007 9:49 PM
Chel said...
We agree with this PETITION to return the our graduation back to the PIT.
March 26, 2007 9:52 PM
Gus said...
yes to Pit
March 26, 2007 10:43 PM
Dawn said...
OK to the petition
March 26, 2007 10:45 PM
Tess said...
vote yes to The Pit
March 26, 2007 10:45 PM
Ural said...
GO RAMS GO PIT
March 26, 2007 10:47 PM
GO RAMS said...
"RIO RANCHO BASKETBALL TEAM YOU JUST ROCKED THE “PIT”,
YOU JUST WON YOUR FIRST STATE CHAMPIONSHIP;
MR. DUNCAN ENCOURAGED YOU AND ALL STUDENTS
TO “SHOW THEM WE OWN THE ‘PIT’!!
….AND YOU DID!!
WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO NOW?
“WE’RE GOING TO DISNEY LAN….WAIT….NO…..
WE WANT TO GO BACK TO THE “PIT” FOR OUR GRADUATION, WE OWN IT NOW!!
DID YOU SEE HOW MANY FANS WE HAD THERE?!
IT WAS GREAT-GO RAMS!!!"
March 27, 2007 6:44 AM
red rabbit said...
According to KOAT, the Santa Ana Star Center is now going to make skyboxes available for graduation. How are they going to determine who gets the skyboxes? Discuss.
March 27, 2007 8:46 AM
sky box said...
That is news to me, if I hear anything I will share the info.
Tina
March 27, 2007 10:04 AM
Desi said...
WE support the petition 100%
March 27, 2007 10:09 AM
Call Yvette 994-9648 said...
We have started a Hard Copy paper PETITION and if you would like to sign it, please call me and I will meet you to get it signed.
My number again is 994-9648.
Any other ideas?
Let me know, because we need to let them know that WE ARE NOT JUST "MAKING NOISE"
WE all know this is a very important issue to our graduates as well as all of us involved.
We need to continue to show our support.
March 27, 2007 10:15 AM
Anna said...
2007 - Largest Graduating Class in the entire state and in our school’s history.
GO RAMS GO BACK TO THE PIT
March 27, 2007 12:12 PM
Rob said...
I agree:
It is not what you know it is who you know. It is not what you did RRPS it is how you did it.
We are in full support of the return to The Pit.
"Lets not let this one get by us lads or it will be hell to pay"
March 27, 2007 12:21 PM
Dr. Cleveland said...
I would like to thank all of the persons that took the time and energy to allow this Website to be available to the many that were not asked.
Dr. Cleveland, shame on you. Neither you or anyone on your staff has apologized for this decision.
Scott
March 27, 2007 1:35 PM
Dr. Sue Cleveland said...
In the winter of 99 I had a wonderful conversation with a young lady that was passionate about helping children-students-families. What was most remarkable was she was dedicated to the task.
Sadly now I see and read about that same young lady embroiled in a controversial change. So we don’t agree on where to hold graduation that I can live with. It is the HOW that is being carried out and at any cost to keep it in Rio Rancho that causes me distress.
Dr. Susan Cleveland, take a look back 7-8 years when your heart was in the right place. We all know it can be changed. They are going to get your business sometime in the future anyway.
Change this back or put it to a vote.
Sincerely,
Thomas
March 27, 2007 1:47 PM
PIT still open on 5/19 said...
Hello everyone,
I spoke to THE PIT, yes! They still have May 19TH open! They will not schedule anything on that day.
Cost for THE PIT = $7,800.00
Cost for the Center = $6,200.00
A seat at the Center costs more then a seat at THE PIT.
How about that!
M
March 27, 2007 3:45 PM
PIT still open on 5/19 said...
This GREAT news tell everyone that this is far from over.
Sid
Hello everyone,
I spoke to THE PIT, yes! They still have May 19TH open! They will not schedule anything on that day.
Cost for THE PIT = $7,800.00
Cost for the Center = $6,200.00
A seat at the Center costs more then a seat at THE PIT.
How about that!
M
March 27, 2007 3:59 PM
Dr. Sue Cleveland said...
CHANGE IT BACK TO THE PIT!
I WANT MY FAMILY TO SEE ME GRADUATE!
March 27, 2007 4:02 PM
Dr. Cleveland said...
Concerned persons,
With the confirmed information that The Pit is still open for business on May 19TH, may we encourage everyone to NOT GIVE UP.
The decision was never fair and that is why we will not give up.
Contracts can be broken.
Tremendous stress is being placed on families.
After all is said and done the new venue is NOT cost effective as they tried to purport.
The newspaper comments on Sunday (3/25) do not have all the facts and have only fueled my fire.
Share this information with everyone you know.
Thank you,
Robert
March 27, 2007 4:45 PM
Dr. Cleveland said...
I am an 18-year-old graduating Senior. I believe I understand why the administration changed our graduation.
My question to you is do you understand what you did is wrong?
J
March 27, 2007 5:28 PM
Dr. Cleveland said...
I would like to suggest when you all open the other high school then at that time you can have your graduation in Rio Rancho. It is obvious that no matter what anyone says to you still refuse to admit you are wrong. You have yet to apologies to the families you have affected. You are hiding and stalling time. RRHS will continue to have the most seniors graduating year in and year out. Who is in charge of keeping count? Please if I know that how is it the ones responsible for this somehow forgot this important information? That is why a new school is needed in the first place right? We fully support that you return the graduation to the pit. Dr. Cleveland we are not trying to be disrespectful to you. However we are very upset that you are willing to continue down this path “through Rio Rancho to a 2 lane road with only 1 way in and 1 way out”, poor parking, too small, etc.
Blake
March 27, 2007 6:53 PM
Joe said...
Keep this Petition going
March 27, 2007 6:55 PM
Megan said...
http://129.24.2.119/fbonline5/calendar.asp?filter=&month=5&day=19&year=2007&x=14&y=6
Please paste this info into your browser.
We can still return to “The Pit”.
March 27, 2007 7:04 PM
Fail to plan, plan to fail said...
What RRPS and staff did was WRONG!
No input
No vote
No say
No way
BACK TO THE PIT!
March 27, 2007 7:07 PM
Rex said...
Ditto to every COMMENT here
March 27, 2007 7:09 PM
Graduate of 2007 said...
I am a graduate of 2007. I dont think that they handled this change in a very good way. The way they changed it at the minute was so wrong. They are puttin more stress on us seniors because not only do we have to worry about our finals, thesis, and now we have to worry about who to pick from our families to attend our graduation. I think since the school board thinks for all of us they should tell each and everyone of us seniors who to pick in our family to come watch us graduate and who we should their feelings for not lettin them come watch us. We dont want to have to pick and choose who attends our graduation. We want to prove to our family that we did it and now we will be starting a new chapter in our lives. WE WANT IT AT THE PIT!!! Another thing from the paper on sunday 3/25/07 why dont they want to ask us what we think about this instead of writing stuff about us because we are expressing how we feel about the change its just wrong how our own rio rancho paper wont even try to come and ask us what we think they are suppose to be our paper but instead they are talking about us that are "griping" about the issue, its sad how albuquerque will support us and do stories for us but our own rio rancho paper wont.Shows how much rio rancho paper cares about there community, graduating seniors and there families. It makes rio rancho look really good. Thanks Everyone From Albuquerque For All Of The Support You Are Giving Us Graduating Seniors Of 2007!!!
March 27, 2007 7:11 PM
Anonymous said...
IDEA///AS CLASS OF 2007 AS A WHOLE WHY DONT WE RENT THE PIT. THERE WAS AN COMMENT TO CHARGE 1.00 PER PERSON FOR ENTRY AND ALL MONEYS GO TO THE PIT MAYBE WE CAN GET A DISCOUNT OF SOME SORT AND LETS LEAVE THE SCHOOL BOARD OUT OF THE GRADUATION. LETS SEE HOW THEY LIKE IT
March 27, 2007 7:18 PM
graduate of 2007 said...
That is a great idea but in order to do that we are going to need a lot of support. we cant just let the pit know and then on that day only a few of us show up. we have to make sure that everyone who wants it at the pit is going to show up at the pit on that day and is not going to back down.
March 27, 2007 7:31 PM
My Graduation 2007 said...
My Graduation 2007
Class Ring - $400 (In Albuquerque)
Announcements/Cap & Gown - $200 (In Albuquerque)
Invitations - $150 (In Albuquerque)
Graduation pictures - $400 (In Albuquerque)
8 family members flying in - $3,600
Graduation party - $2,000
Having my entire family who encouraged me
for 13 years celebrate with me at THE PIT – PRICELESS!!!
March 27, 2007 7:50 PM
Pay for The Pit said...
A parent suggested that we contact all the families that want it at The Pit and then tell the administration we would pay for it?
The Pit cost is $7,800
divided by
600 families
equals $13.00 each!
That is THIRTEEN dollars each!
Not much, huh?!
or 500 families
equals $15.60 each!
March 27, 2007 7:59 PM
good ideas said...
Good ideas by everyone!
Don't forget to tell everyone to contact this Blog Spot and to call Yvette - 994-9648
Gwen
March 27, 2007 8:02 PM
Don't Give UP! said...
Don't GIvE UP!
March 27, 2007 9:08 PM
GO BIG or STAY HOME said...
GO BIG or STAY HOME RRPS!
GO BACK TO THE PIT!
March 27, 2007 9:12 PM
Anonymous said...
IDEA// IF YOU TAKE 750 X 10. DEPENDING ON SIZE OF FAMILY TO ATTEND THATS NOT INCLUDING FRIENDS THAT COMES TO 7500.00 THATS PLENTY NOT TO BAD.
March 27, 2007 9:19 PM
Dr Sue Cleveland said...
I think this was already mentioned but it is very important for Dr. Cleveland to please consider this very important fact -
If they put it to a vote now right now, the Graduation would go back to “The Pit" please really think about this.
They are displacing over 10,000+ persons that would like to come!
Max
March 27, 2007 9:20 PM
770 Graduates said...
KOAT-TV in their 5PM newscast on 3/26, announced 770 seniors will graduate.
RRPS originally stated 700.
We were advised 750.
Now today they are stating 770.
We heard the year started with over 930 seniors and some thought at least 800 would be graduating.
If anyone else hears anything different please update this web log.
770x10 = $7,700.00
we can do it!!!
Rudy
March 27, 2007 9:24 PM
Dr. Sue Cleveland said...
SERIOUSLY…SIMPLY, WHAT PRICE DO YOU PLACE ON A CELEBRATION OF LOVE AND LIFE?!
THE COST THE SAVINGS THAT MRS. CLEVELAND AND MR. VONANCKEN ALLUDE TO ABSOLUTELY DO NOT OUT WEIGH WHAT WILL BE COMPLETELY LOST!
YES, EVEN TO ATTEMPT TO PLACE A PRICE ON THIS ENTIRE PROCESS, CELEBRATION AND EVENT IS INAPPROPRIATE BECAUSE IT IS TRULY “PRICELESS”!
TO ARGUE THIS IMPORTANT POINT IS IGNORANCE AND…..WELL….VERY WRONG.
Maggie
March 27, 2007 9:26 PM
Call Yvette 994-9648 said...
We have started a Hard Copy paper PETITION and if you would like to sign it, please call me and I will meet you to get it signed.
My number again is 994-9648.
Any other ideas?
Let me know, because we need to let them know that WE ARE NOT JUST "MAKING NOISE"
WE all know this is a very important issue to our graduates as well as all of us involved.
We need to continue to show our support.
March 27, 2007 9:27 PM
Anonymous said...
back to the pit back to the pit back to the pit
March 27, 2007 10:03 PM
Anonymous said...
THOMAS, YOU ARE RIGHT THE SANTA ANA STAR CENTER WILL RECIEVE THERE BUSINESS IN THE FUTURE ANYWAY. IM SORRY THE PERSON YOU NEW HAD A HEART MAYBE SOME DAY YOU WILL KNOW THAT PERSON AGAIN
March 27, 2007 10:09 PM
Anonymous said...
Families along with graduates have been discriminated against.
Not everyone was allowed to have a voice in this decision.
Dr. Cleveland has not apologized for disrupting the lives of the Class of 2007 and their loved ones.
She stated,
"We've heard more positive than negative. I do understand the concern people have about it,"
Obviously she failed to take everything into account and how this adversely impacts families.
Gary Herron a reporter for The Observer of Rio Rancho or any reporter from this newspaper has yet to interview anyone that disagrees with the decision.
He suggested in his editorial rant:
Anyone under the age of 10 should stay home and not be allowed to attend any graduation!
Not only are they discriminating against anyone with a large family they want to discriminate against your age!
Also, Herron thinks he scores points by alleging that holding an election would be too complicated and expensive. He writes: "Let me play devil's advocate here. How would you hold this election? One vote per parent of a senior? One vote per family? One vote per graduate? Only registered voters eligible? Online? Who pays for it?"
These are silly objections: A sufficient number of single-sheet paper ballots could be printed at little cost; the parents or legal guardians of graduates and the graduates themselves would be eligible to vote (easy enough to keep track of because the High School has a list of the graduates and their parents). The vote would take place at the High School on a pre-announced date. Volunteers would count the votes.
Simple as pie.
This guy is keeping the company line and wrote a lot of other horrible things.
This overall decision is highly one sided and they are forcing and expecting people to accept it because “they said so!”
Go back to the Pit.
Art
March 27, 2007 10:17 PM
Dr. Cleveland said...
OK, now that I know The Pit is still open for business I want to Go Back To The Pit
Laura
March 28, 2007 7:35 AM
Dr. Cleveland, I agree said...
“What we have here is failure to communicate”
This has been said over and over again. I think because we are short on time we need to put this to a fair vote. No hanky panky. The school board is not going to back us, if they were they already would have. They are all stalling just by the fact they have not allowed a vote by anyone formally. They know their decision would lose in a fair vote. This has power play written all over it. Everyone is pointing fingers but they are not budging. Even the Rio Rancho media is supporting the bad decision and criticizing any little comment that is made.
Keep passing the word along The Pit is still available. All that nonsense with TV feed is garbage and it confirms they messed up. The Rio Rancho media is NOW trying to say that The Pit is only going to hold 11,000, they are still over 60% short! 60% percent is still a lot of people that can’t be there and want to be there. I also think The Pit would hold more then 11,000 people the media has their figures wrong. Also, they said there are 4 ways to get to the Star Center, please draw me a map. You have to drive through Rio Rancho to get to a 2 lane road, and when you get there it is 1 way in and 1 way out. I know, I go to the hockey games.
Merle
March 28, 2007 7:38 AM
Dr. Cleveland, common sense said...
This e-mail is regarding the Common Sense article written in the Rio Rancho Journal.
Being a student at Rio Rancho High School and waking up to read this article from you both, Mike and Genie Ryan, made me think of what common sense you both must have in writing this article.
Whether or not you grew up in big families that fully supported you through your life, you clearly don’t understand the, as you put it, "gripe" those of us with big families are having because of the ticket limit.
I do think it is a great idea to hold graduation in my wonderful hometown, but it’s a shame that all of the people I want there may not get to go.
Is it really my fault that I have a large immediate family?
Should I as a senior really have to pick which family members should go with the extra tickets I have dug up by myself.
Also, uniforms were voted on when I was in fifth grade and we were just supposed to be “trying them out;” so maybe that was the outrage over that.
Are you saying people can’t speak up if they don’t agree with the way you think?
Because that is how it sounds.
Also, regarding parents voicing opinions on test scores, drop out rates, and curriculum; this point in your article has nothing to do with the students that are graduating and shouldn’t even be mentioned because those parents that are outraged have kids that obviously didn’t drop out and had good test scores.
Personally I believe Rio Rancho’s curriculum is great.
Furthermore, your other huge point that has nothing to do with the GRADUATING SENIORS is parents caring about what their children are learning.
The seniors that are graduating have already learned, hence the reason for a graduation ceremony.
Your are right though that parents need to be involved and I’m glad mine are in trying to somehow make my very large, supportive family attend my graduation.
Also, don’t assume these “griping” parents don’t care about what their children are learning because you have no right to and it has nothing to do with why they are “griping” in the first place.
If you don’t see what the “big deal” is about me not having my family at my ceremony then you might as well suggest not having a ceremony at all, because you must not comprehend the point of what a graduation ceremony is.
You also state you don’t understand why parents wont let it go?
It’s because we still can’t have all of our family attend, DUH!
You’re right about making graduation special for the graduates, but what you don’t understand is part of making it special is having my whole family there which is why we’re still “griping”.
I hope you understand the hypocrisy of your article.
I do hope my parents take your advice and become involved and make my graduation even more special; and that is by continuing to challenge the change of venues.
Also you say this will be the first graduation in Rio Rancho, then you go to say Independence is.
I’m truly sorry of the hypocrisy and confusion of your article, the lack of common sense two human beings have in putting together this article, the Journals decision to hire two people who clearly state they just don’t understand what they are writing about; as you clearly mention in your article several times.
Sincerely I hope you’ll get some common sense, be able to understand your topic and just not worry about the vehemence, the passion of Rio Rancho’s families over this very important topic, better yet “Get Over It”.
2007 Senior
March 28, 2007 7:46 AM
Dr. Cleveland said...
ditto to this HUGE SNAFU!!!
I understand the chaos of organizing a high school graduation and inevitably someone is going to be less than happy about the result. But to callously disregard the plans and wishes of multiple family members goes beyond any kind of administrative SNAFU.
Graduation ceremonies are ultimately about the achievements of the students and an opportunity for loved ones to celebrate those achievements. For Rio Rancho to dismiss the concerns and outrage of family members is to disregard the spirit of the ceremony.
Isn't obvious? Do the right thing.
March 28, 2007 7:58 AM
thanks malone said...
“Fail to Plan
Plan to Fail”
"We'll have to have cable."
"What are you doing for DISH subscribers?"
You are trying to put a band-aid on a severe wound
Thanks Malone
Aubry
March 28, 2007 8:18 AM
Doc let's PACK THE PIT! said...
Capacity of the Pit:
18,000 plus can fit.
A section is blocked off so now 12,000 can fit.
They had to open up that section for last year’s graduation for us because we had the largest Class, which meant more people.
The 2007 Class is even Bigger, which will mean more people.
The media and school started out saying that 690 Seniors would be graduating; NOW they are saying 770 Seniors are graduating.
That means their figures were off and there will be more people coming.
Do you realize the graduating Class WILL be even bigger as each year goes by?
The section can be opened up so 13,000, 15,000 or up to 18,000 people as needed.
IF YOU DON’T THINK THE NUMBERS ARE CORRECT, CALL THE PIT.
A local newspaper reporter (Gary Herron) is trying to say 11,000 would come BUT remember, he is basing it on what he thinks last years’ numbers were, but he his wrong. Then he suggests that 10 years old and under CANNOT attend the graduation! Can you believe that? He is WRONG on last years’ numbers because they had to open up the section that is closed off, so there were more then 11,000 people present, this means more will come this year along with anyone under the age of 10!
Rio Rancho year in and year out AVERAGES roughly 20 people per graduate. That is an average.
Whatever numbers you want to use the fact remains the same 11,000+ to 15,000+ people are being affected by this decision.
“Let me play the devil’s advocate”, WHAT IS WRONG WITH RIO RANCHO “PACKING THE PIT” FOR A GRADUATION?
We should be proud we did! Isn’t it true that Sue Cleveland and company, Gary Herron and Coach Brian Smith exhorted and hoped that we would “Pack The Pit” for all of basketball games?
Didn’t Mayor Jackson show his support and come out for the game; I think that is Great that he showed his support over a GAME?
QUOTING: Mayor Kevin Jackson said the development of the city's school district has given Rio Rancho a sense of identity.
"We didn't have that when I was growing up," said Jackson, who has lived in Rio Rancho since the 1960s and plans to attend tonight's championship. "There's an elevation in pride in how well the teams have done, not just in athletics, but in academic, student government and all the student-related programs."
QUOTING: "You saw the crowd tonight," Rio Rancho coach Brian Smith said after the Rams semifinal win Thursday night at The Pit. "There are 70,000 people in Rio Rancho. This place should be packed. Where is everybody?"
I think this was Great too showing support and networking with others!
QUOTING: Sarah Stevenson, a team manager, hung flyers around the sprawling Rio Rancho campus Thursday to promote the game.
"I saw a lot of people stopping to look at them and a lot of people asked me about the game," Stevenson said.
Her mother, who works at a local elementary school, told Stevenson that e-mails about Rams basketball have been flowing into her inbox. Gary did you do these interviews? No that was an Albuquerque Tribune reporter.
Consider then we want to “PACK THE PIT” for a sporting event, AND I DO TOO, why not “PACK THE PIT” for RRPS’s BIGGEST EVENT, their High School Graduation?!
I would hope our Mayor that showed that much enthusiasm for a “game” would show more for the WRONG being imposed on the Class of 2007.
I would hope Sue Cleveland and company, along with Gary Herron and other media that showed that much enthusiasm for a “game” would show more for the WRONG being imposed on the Class of 2007 especially our Seniors our children!
Weren’t we condemned and criticized in the news, in public for our emails and networking to get this situation changed?
Mayor Jackson, Sue Cleveland and company, Gary Herron, the Ryans and other media, which is more important a “game” or a graduation? I feel they are both important.
What about the fact that several thousands are affected men, women and children?
What about the fact an injustice has been dealt them?
What is wrong with anyone striving for:
“We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed, by their Creator, with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness”
“GO BACK TO THE PIT – PACK THE PIT” anyone under 10 are welcome too!
Lorenzo
March 28, 2007 10:12 AM
VOTE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! said...
VOTE!!!!!!!!
We WANT a vote for moving graduation back to The PIT since it is the only place that can accommodate a large audience. America is about Democracy and this change is the exact opposite of that. We live in New Mexico, a state in accordance to the United States Constitution.
Les
March 28, 2007 10:52 AM
Dr. Sue Cleveland said...
I have been reading all of these comments and it reminded of the past graduations I have been to. The speaker’s comments and theme range from: You’ve done it!; You are tomorrow’s future!; You have your whole lives ahead of you!; Atta Boy!; and everything else in-between. I have to admit I was always a sap for these speeches. I appreciated the heartfelt effort of the person giving it as well.
To The Graduating Class of 2007, what a wonderful message district office is sending you this year! There are so many excellent “Comments” posted here all you have to do is read them to understand the real message from district office.
THE PIT IS STILL OPEN it is time to pick up the pace and PASS THIS ON!
Jonny
March 28, 2007 12:25 PM
Dr. Cleveland said...
Take our Graduation Back To The Pit!!!
I have gone to Rio Rancho Schools for 12 years now.
I am an AP student and have been on the Honor Roll all 12 years.
This decision is NOT FAIR!
The newspaper said we were being "greedy", just because we want to put this to a fair vote?
Shame on them for insulting thousands of people for speaking up.
07 Senior
March 28, 2007 3:55 PM
On TV said...
Hi, did you hear about the new decision that RRHS has now? They want to broadcast it on TV. Ouch, not everyone has cable. WOW what a great IDEA lets just let friends and family sit in our living room with a bowl of popcorn and soda and enjoy the show. That is exactly how they are trying to sell it. How is it they really think people will be ok with that? Why go to all that trouble when we can drive down the hill to The Famous Pit?
Shelly
March 28, 2007 4:46 PM
Anonymous said...
MY NAME IS LATISHA AND I AM 11 YEARS OLD I HAVE A SISTER WHO IS A GRADUATE AND I AM VERY SAD TO HEAR WHAT IS HAPPENING. I WAS TOLD THAT I MIGHT HAVE TO STAY HOME. I LOOK UP TO MY SISTER AND I AM PROUD OF HER. SHE HAS WORKED HARD TO GET TO WHERE SHE IS. I CRIED WHEN MY MOM TOLD ME AND MY BROTHER WHO IS 7YEARS OLD THE NEWS PAPER SAID THAT THEY SHOULD LEAVE 10 AN YOUNGER AT HOME AM I SUPOSE TO WATCH MY BROTHER INSTEAD OF MY SISTER GRADUATE? I DONT KNOW WHY THE SCHOOL BOARD WANTS TO DO THIS TO MY FAMILY AND LOTS OF OTHER FAMILYS ALSO. IT SADDENS ME BECAUSE I WILL GRADUATE SOME DAY AND I DONT WANT THIS TO HAPPEN TO ME. CAN SOME ONE PLEASE HELP ME SO I SEE MY SISTER GRADUATE. I WOULD LIKE TO GO TO THE PIT SO I CAN GO WITH MY GRANDMA AND GRANDPA AND MY ANTIES I LOVE MY SISTER PLEASE BACK TO THE PIT. SAD IN RIO RANCHO LATISHA
March 28, 2007 6:55 PM
To Dr. Cleveland and Families affected said...
Some GREAT reading here.
After taking the time to really consider all of the reasons the administration decided to change our graduation. I have concluded beyond a shadow of a doubt that their reasons are self-serving. Their decisions discriminate against families and graduates and do not allow everyone to have a voice in this decision. It also places hardship, stress and is a serious distraction in people’s lives. It was completely one sided. At this time if they would allow us to vote they would lose. They will not allow us to vote at all costs. This will take legal action or enough people to complain about this decision. They are not listening and not conceding they are wrong.
Additionally, it is overtly obvious that there is a vast difference between the coverage on the news and the quality of the journalism concerning the Rio Rancho Observer, G. Herron, the Rio Rancho Journal, specifically the Ryans and the Tribune. Specifically, Herron and the Ryans editorial were both very offensive and poorly put together, with points that make no connections, other then to back the system. They never addressed the serious issues and made light of the fact a vote or fair input was not allowed; tickets are an obstacle; too bad for anyone’s extended family; and discriminated against persons concerning their age! (Herron) actually placed an age limit on the event! They degraded and shamed families for requesting relief and made their best argument to tell them to shut up, using because we told you so rhetoric, were smart your not, we know you don’t logic.
The other Journal and Tribune reporters presented the information that was given to them in a balanced manner.
NOTE: Our very own newspaper in the city of vision the Observer has NOT interviewed anyone that opposes this decision! Repeat has NOT! Which begs to ask…..WHY?
Can anyone say,
"Conflict of Interest"
Or
"Corporate Partners"
Go back to the Pit.
Randy
March 28, 2007 7:15 PM
LATISHA "ROCKS" and needs help, NOW! said...
Dr. Cleveland, you need to help an 11 year old and a 7 year old here in your school system, NOW please!
Ben
Anonymous said...
MY NAME IS LATISHA AND I AM 11 YEARS OLD I HAVE A SISTER WHO IS A GRADUATE AND I AM VERY SAD TO HEAR WHAT IS HAPPENING. I WAS TOLD THAT I MIGHT HAVE TO STAY HOME. I LOOK UP TO MY SISTER AND I AM PROUD OF HER. SHE HAS WORKED HARD TO GET TO WHERE SHE IS. I CRIED WHEN MY MOM TOLD ME AND MY BROTHER WHO IS 7YEARS OLD THE NEWS PAPER SAID THAT THEY SHOULD LEAVE 10 AN YOUNGER AT HOME AM I SUPOSE TO WATCH MY BROTHER INSTEAD OF MY SISTER GRADUATE? I DONT KNOW WHY THE SCHOOL BOARD WANTS TO DO THIS TO MY FAMILY AND LOTS OF OTHER FAMILYS ALSO. IT SADDENS ME BECAUSE I WILL GRADUATE SOME DAY AND I DONT WANT THIS TO HAPPEN TO ME. CAN SOME ONE PLEASE HELP ME SO I SEE MY SISTER GRADUATE. I WOULD LIKE TO GO TO THE PIT SO I CAN GO WITH MY GRANDMA AND GRANDPA AND MY ANTIES I LOVE MY SISTER PLEASE BACK TO THE PIT. SAD IN RIO RANCHO LATISHA
March 28, 2007 7:21 PM
The Observer call Yvette 994-9648 said...
"NOTE: Our very own newspaper in the city of vision the Observer has NOT interviewed anyone that opposes this decision! Repeat has NOT! Which begs to ask…..WHY?"
Call Yvette 994-9648 she will give you and interview
March 28, 2007 7:31 PM
Anonymous said...
I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHY THE SCHOOL BOARD IS MAKING IT MANDITORY FOR THE TEACHERS FROM THE RIO RANCHO MID HIGH ATTEND THE GRADUTION? THATS JUST MORE SEATS THEY ARE TAKING UP. MOST OF THE TEACHERS FROM THE MID HIGH DO WISH TO ATTEND
March 28, 2007 8:25 PM
senior 2007 said...
Herron from the rio rancho paper was very wrong for trying to put an age limit on who may attend the graduation.The way I see it at a senior is we are role models for the younger children to stay in school so they will accomplish this in their life. It teaches children that if we can do it they can do it too just stay in school and do good.It is wrong to not let them go then it just makes them think well since I may not attend to see them graduate why should they? It is also making Herron look really bad for trying to say that children 10 years and under should stay home with a babysitter. Why dont he stay home himself? We seniors are really good role models for those that are younger so they will want to stay in school. IT shows them that anything we put our minds to and make goals we can accomplish. We Need to go back to the Pit so everyone may attend no matter what the age is.
March 28, 2007 8:36 PM
TO: Mr. or Mrs. or Ms "Rant and Rave" said...
So Mr. "Rant and Rave" is upset that an individual blog set up to air the views of parents who disagree with the decision to move the Rio Rancho High School graduation ceremony won't post his comments. But isn't he the same guy who dismisses, as ridiculous, the complaint that publicly elected officials made a decision affecting hundreds, if not thousands, of people without giving proper notice, without allowing discussion, without taking into account dissenting opinions? So my fellow American who's really the hypocrite here? Or do you having trouble reading?
Oh, before I forget “little Johnny” is a graduating Senior, thank you very much, and can read! Evidently you can’t! Excuse me but the very first page of the blog allows you to comment if you are against having the graduation at The Pit. “Here’s the thing” you were in the w-r-o-n-g section sir or ma’am! So go find the right section and present your opposing points of view.
Melissa
March 28, 2007 10:47 PM
To "Little Johnny's Graduation": said...
Regarding this rant that is in The Observer 3/29/07 issue:
"If you agree with the folks who believe, in error, that they have a constitutional right to invite 50 relatives to little Johnny's high school graduation, then you should go to the Web site they've setup on blogspot and type to your heart's content. If you are among those of us who are glad that we are finally able to hold graduation in our own city, forget about the site. All opposing points of view are being promptly deleted. So much for inviting public comment. The funny thing about it is how many of the posts there are all about rights, equality, public debate, and amber waves of grain. The good news is that little Johnny is almost a graduate. At least he will know what 'hypocrite' means."
Basically, there are two (2) sections you are welcome to “COMMENT” if you are “for” The Pit or if you are “against” The Pit.
The Web Log Blog’s opening page has from the very beginning clearly stated that there are two (2) ways to "COMMENT" and allows both "for" and "against" sections. It has very simple instructions and anyone that can read regardless of age can easily understand it.
The "If you are against the move to return to THE PIT, " section specially wrote this person that “ranted” and advised them that they could take his/her time and expound on as many points that they disagreed with and submit their feelings. They were given “carte blanche” to write as much as they wanted. We have yet to officially hear back from this person or persons. You can still actually go to the blog and read the comment to this same person that “ranted”, it is still on the blog to verify that this explanation is accurate.
Additionally, this very same person was advised repeatedly that they were in the wrong section and clearly disregarded that advice.
echarles1234@aol.com
March 28, 2007 11:04 PM
TO: Mr. or Mrs. or Ms "Rant and Rave" again…. said...
Say it ain’t so Mr. "Rant and Rave"
You were told repeatedly you were in the wrong section and you disregarded the advice?
Wow, you sound like a person that demands their own way?
Just from the tone of your “rant” and how you mocked “little Johnny” it is crystal clear that your views are paramount over anyone else’s?
You could not read the accurate instructions and then disregarded them when they were given to you?
Further, you were allowed and encouraged to comment and you have not provided your opposing points of view?
Well, we would still like to return to The Pit it is that simple.
Melissa
March 28, 2007 11:19 PM
Dr. Cleveland said...
Take our graduation back to the PIT
Belinda
March 28, 2007 11:58 PM
DR. CLEVELAND: said...
YOU MADE A DECISION AFFECTING THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE
MEN, WOMEN AND CHILDREN
WITHOUT GIVING PROPER NOTICE,
WITHOUT ALLOWING DISCUSSION,
WITHOUT TAKING INTO ACCOUNT DISSENTING OPINIONS!
THANK YOU MELISSA
WAYNE
March 29, 2007 12:04 AM
"for" THE PIT "COMMENT" here: said...
PLEASE SIGN THE PETITION said...
SIGN THE PETITION
Add your name and/or comments to this thread. If you want to go BACK TO THE PIT click on "COMMENTS" below and write in the space provided. To sign up for a Google account, is completely free, or you can comment using the other options.
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March 29, 2007 7:45 AM
THE PIT - DR. CLEVELAND: said...
?
?
YOU MADE A DECISION AFFECTING THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE
MEN, WOMEN AND CHILDREN
WITHOUT GIVING PROPER NOTICE,
WITHOUT ALLOWING DISCUSSION,
WITHOUT TAKING INTO ACCOUNT DISSENTING OPINIONS!
NO MATTER WHICH AMERICAN FLAG YOU WAIVE ALL OF THIS IS ALLOWED IN OUR COUNTRY!
THANK YOU MELISSA
Harry
March 29, 2007 7:57 AM
DR. Cleveland, WHAT DID WE DO WRONG? said...
WHAT DID WE DO WRONG?
I’m going to start this comment here and encourage anyone that would like our graduation to return to THE PIT to add on to this comment if you would like:
I started out this comment with a question. If nobody had raised concerns then we would have never been made to feel like “the bad guy”, like we did something wrong, because I see the stress this is causing my parents and my friends and many others. Something is very wrong here if people in the news media are going to make you feel bad. Anonymous people putting down my fellow graduates calling them “little Johnny” and making fun of his “large family”, telling him his parents and all of us were “hypocrites” for questioning the decision and boasting how American they are and we aren’t! Who could be so important in this great big world to design such a “caste system” type of thinking?
I can tell you this Dr. Cleveland they have motivated me TO TRY EVEN HARDER NOW! We know The Pit is still open for business and the Star Center can break your contract. Just like this person so rudely stated what words “little Johnny” would learn I have learned a few myself, “WE HAVE DONE NOTHING WRONG”!
Class of 2007
March 29, 2007 8:45 AM
DR. Cleveland, WHAT DID WE DO WRONG? said...
"little Johnny's new words:
“ . . . That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles, and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and HAPPINESS . . . it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security. . .”
Lloyd
Original Blog:
DR. Cleveland, WHAT DID WE DO WRONG? said...
WHAT DID WE DO WRONG?
I’m going to start this comment here and encourage anyone that would like our graduation to return to THE PIT to add on to this comment if you would like:
I started out this comment with a question. If nobody had raised concerns then we would have never been made to feel like “the bad guy”, like we did something wrong, because I see the stress this is causing my parents and my friends and many others. Something is very wrong here if people in the news media are going to make you feel bad. Anonymous people putting down my fellow graduates calling them “little Johnny” and making fun of his “large family”, telling him his parents and all of us were “hypocrites” for questioning the decision and boasting how American they are and we aren’t! Who could be so important in this great big world to design such a “caste system” type of thinking?
I can tell you this Dr. Cleveland they have motivated me TO TRY EVEN HARDER NOW! We know The Pit is still open for business and the Star Center can break your contract. Just like this person so rudely stated what words “little Johnny” would learn I have learned a few myself, “WE HAVE DONE NOTHING WRONG”!
Class of 2007
March 29, 2007 9:00 AM
little Johnny said...
There are a number of people, both here and in the press, who keep dragging "little Johnny," a graduating senior, along with his family, into this mess. After enduring the callous, condescending remarks, and lack of common courtesy, Little Johnny woke up this morning and got his blog on!
http://littlejohnnyinriorancho.blogspot.com/
March 29, 2007 12:03 PM
Anonymous said...
So who's going to wake up little Susie?
March 29, 2007 7:18 PM
Anonymous said...
This stinks! RRPS has been less than truthful with RRHS students and their families. This is a public high school, so why are we having a private graduation? It's so private that even the families of the graduates are not welcome.
Gloria
March 29, 2007 7:23 PM
Anonymous said...
Dr. Cleveland,
Gloria brings up a very good point. We are a public High School, but have made the graduation private. Is it because Mr. VonAncken was booed last year? What do you think is going to happen this year? Graduating seniors booing him last year indicates you need to find out why that happened?
Jesse
March 29, 2007 9:47 PM
Question to anonymous? said...
Hello,
They "do" or don't want to attend?
Alex
Anonymous said...
I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHY THE SCHOOL BOARD IS MAKING IT MANDITORY FOR THE TEACHERS FROM THE RIO RANCHO MID HIGH ATTEND THE GRADUTION? THATS JUST MORE SEATS THEY ARE TAKING UP. MOST OF THE TEACHERS FROM THE MID HIGH DO WISH TO ATTEND
March 29, 2007 9:48 PM
Go Go Go Johnny Go, Go Johnny Go said...
Deep down in Rio Rancho no were not near Queens
Way back up in the hills among the evergreens
There stood a little house made of block and wood
Where lived a county boy named Johnny B Good
Who also learned to read n write so well
And he could play the guitar just like ringin a bell
Go, go, go johnny go go
go johnny go go
go johnny go go
go johnny go go
johnny be good
Then one day in 07 when his graduation came
Ol’ Doc Cleveland moved it nah it wasn’t the same
Oh they put down “little Johnny” cause he wouldn’t sit
Cause all he ask Ol’ Doc was to let him return to The Pit
He used to carry his guitar in a gunny sack
Or sit beneath the tree by the railroad track
Oh an engineer could see him sitting in the shade
Strummin' to the rhythm that the drivers made
People passing by they'd stop and say
Oh my but that little county boy can play
Go, go, go johnny go go
go johnny go go
go johnny go go
go johnny go go
johnny be good
His mother told him some day you will be a man
And you will be the leader of a big old band
Many people coming from miles around
And hear you play your music till the sun goes down
Maybe someday your name gonna be in light
Sayin' Jonny be good tonight
Go, go, go johnny go go
go johnny go go
go johnny go go
go johnny go go
johnny be good
Then one day in 07 when his graduation came
Ol’ Doc Cleveland moved it nah it wasn’t the same
Oh they put down “little Johnny” cause he wouldn’t sit
Cause all he ask Ol’ Doc was to let him return to The Pit
Go, go, go johnny go go
go johnny go go
go johnny go go
go johnny go go
johnny be good
little Johnny said...
There are a number of people, both here and in the press, who keep dragging "little Johnny," a graduating senior, along with his family, into this mess. After enduring the callous, condescending remarks, and lack of common courtesy, Little Johnny woke up this morning and got his blog on!
March 29, 2007 10:08 PM
BACK TO THE PIT - DR. CLEVELAND: said...
?
YOU MADE A DECISION AFFECTING THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE
MEN, WOMEN AND CHILDREN
WITHOUT GIVING PROPER NOTICE,
WITHOUT ALLOWING DISCUSSION,
WITHOUT TAKING INTO ACCOUNT DISSENTING OPINIONS!
NO MATTER WHICH AMERICAN FLAG YOU WAIVE ALL OF THIS IS ALLOWED IN OUR COUNTRY!
THANK YOU MELISSA
Cheryl
March 29, 2007 10:10 PM
DR. CLEVELAND GO BACK said...
FAMILIES, DON’T GIVE UP! They CAN BREAK THE SO CALLED CONTRACT! DON’T BELIEVE IT WHEN THEY TELL YOU THEY CAN’T! THEY CAN! THE PIT IS STILL OPEN FOR BUSINESS ON MAY 19TH! YIPPIEEE!!
Louise
March 29, 2007 10:13 PM
Dr. Cleveland said...
Go back to The Pit!
March 29, 2007 10:14 PM
The Observer said...
Editor:
I didn't appreciate Gary Herron's remarks on The Observer article (March 25 column) about the high school graduation being relocated.
"Come on, parents of graduating seniors of 2007. Get used to the idea that the ceremony is going to be held at the Santa Ana Star." The idea is being shoved down our throats, even by The Observer's editor.
The school board shouldn't have changed the location two months prior to graduation and after we all had ordered our graduation invitations. All our graduation invitations state the graduation is being held at University Arena, "The Pit."
Is the school board going to reimburse us for all the invitations we couldn't use? The simple solution to this mess the school board created is just hold the graduation at The Pit like we were told in the first place and let the graduates of next year hold theirs Santa Ana Star Center.
Now the school board wants to televise the graduation one Cable One Network.
A lot of parents, including myself, have Dish Network, which will not broadcast the graduation. I have never heard people being limited access to a high school graduation. Only in Rio Rancho, the "City of Vision."
Tony
March 29, 2007 10:17 PM
The Observer said...
Editor:
As a member of the graduating class of 2007, I am deeply saddened by the lack of responses from all the parents of my fellow classmates at Rio Rancho High School concerning the issue of our graduation.
The celebration of my graduation will be completely ruined if not all my family members that I want to attend may attend. This problem is not only a problem for those of us graduating this year, but everyone who will be graduating from Rio Rancho High until the new high school is finished and holding its own graduations.
There are some out there who say we are being greedy, but how is it greedy to want close family members within sight of me on one of the biggest days of my life? I am saying goodbye to childhood completely and walking off stage from it. I know I will be nervous that day to walk on stage, but to know that all my family is in the stands cheering me on will make it all better. If my family is not permitted to come into the actual venue and are told to watch it on television in my living room; what is the incentive for them to spend the $300-$500 dollars per person to fly out here? Is it that they get to spend the great day of my graduation with my television until I arrive home?
I plan to have a party with everyone, but that is not my main event. We can celebrate it at anytime if you think the way some people are talking. Back when my brother graduated in 2004, I was excited to tell my family that they would come back to that same spot in three years to celebrate with me. Now I get to tell them to enjoy the television or I'll tape the ceremony and mail it to them. Taping the ceremony in general will be cheaper for me too. I just won't go.
Also, what was the point of some of us ordering 25-100 invitations? Shouldn't we start calling them notices? Since we can't use them as invitations it would better describe them. If we do not make our graduation a large ceremony and make it an "intimate" celebration, I do not see the point of going.
Why don't I hold an "intimate" celebration at my house and pick up the diploma the next day? We are the tenth graduation class (sic, ninth such class; the first was in 1999) of Rio Rancho, and should be treated as fairly as past classes have. Since I was in ninth grade I have heard that they wanted the class of 2007 to graduate at our arena in Rio Rancho. If the city has been planning on us graduating there since then, why did they not built it big enough? They knew how big of a class we are.
I want to go to the Pit again this year, and if they had built the Santa Ana Star Center big enough I would be proud to go there too. I am a proud member of the class of 2007, and I hope the rest of my school and their parents can help me in fighting this issue.
On the day of graduation you will all notice who I am, the one toward the back of the class loudly booing as VonAncken, and Sue Cleveland step on stage.
Lee Ann
March 29, 2007 10:19 PM
The Observer said...
"Why would they (whoever they are) change the plans without the students/parents' opinion? It is all about the seniors, or else they wouldn't be holding a graduation ceremony and to only be able to invite six people to graduation? What if there's families with more than six people? Wow, how nice of you guys to not allow someone's entire family to attend. Good job. No wonder nobody likes Rio Rancho; it's ran by a bunch of idiots. The school doesn't even let students know what's going on, seems like they have no idea what they are doing. Everybody is angry, because of the fact that they changed it after everybody out of state has made plans, and now a majority of them won't even be able to attend. It's just ridiculous. Why did I pay 100 and somewhat dollars for invitations for graduation when I can't even send them out, because you can't use them to get in the graduation?"
March 29, 2007 10:21 PM
Dr. Cleveland said...
We like that other families in Rio Rancho feel the same way about the graduation.
Our family is asking those in charge to have the graduation at the location we were always told it would be, THE PIT.
We and our freinds support the petition.
Pass this along to everyone you know.
Jil
March 29, 2007 10:26 PM
Bobby D. already said...
"Come writers and critics
Who prophesize with your pen
And keep your eyes wide
The chance won't come again
And don't speak too soon
For the wheel's still in spin
And there's no tellin' who
That it's namin'.
For the loser now
Will be later to win
For the times they are a-changin'."
March 29, 2007 10:28 PM
Anonymous said...
I agree with everything that has been said. It is so very unfair to the graduates to ruin the plans of so many family members and loved ones who have planned to attend the graduation at the PIT. Stop the madness and return this important event to the PIT.
March 30, 2007 6:58 AM
Dr. Cleveland said...
“IT IS SO VERY UNFAIR TO THE GRADUATES TO RUIN THE PLANS OF SO MANY FAMILY MEMBERS AND LOVED ONES WHO HAVE PLANNED TO ATTEND THE GRADUATION AT THE PIT.”
Liz
March 30, 2007 7:40 AM
DR. CLEVELAND: said...
YOU MADE A DECISION AFFECTING THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE
MEN, WOMEN AND CHILDREN
WITHOUT GIVING PROPER NOTICE,
WITHOUT ALLOWING DISCUSSION,
WITHOUT TAKING INTO ACCOUNT DISSENTING OPINIONS!
THANK YOU MELISSA
Archer
March 30, 2007 8:21 AM
DR CLEVELAND said...
GREAT COMMENTS HERE TO GO BACK TO THE PIT
Pete
March 30, 2007 8:27 AM
Praying said...
I'm praying for this situation to be resolved so we can all enjoy the graduation at the PIT. God Bless you.
JoAnn
March 30, 2007 8:30 AM
Great point said...
If you believe in PRAYER, PRAY FOR GOD'S WILL IN THIS MATTER
March 30, 2007 8:41 AM
Praying for the PIT, too. said...
Praying for the PIT, too.
Kim
March 30, 2007 9:47 AM
James said...
Back to THE PIT NOW!!
March 30, 2007 10:13 AM
Lydia said...
We agree with going Back to THE PIT NOW!
March 30, 2007 10:22 AM
Praying for the PIT, too. said...
Praying for the PIT, too.
Juan
March 30, 2007 10:45 AM
"Katy Bar the DOOR!: said...
BACK TO THE PIT!
Roy
March 30, 2007 11:12 AM
yaragon said...
I want everyone to know that we appreciate all your responses regarding our fight to go back to The Pit
I want everyone to know that we are continuing to fight this matter SO PLEASE DO NOT GIVE UP because it is going to take ALL OF US to make this happen
The Pit is still available and because we know this, we are going to keep on fighting to have our graduation their
It is very important for the Seniors when you get back to school to get that Petition signed by everyone in school who will sign it and make sure and get their numbers so we can call their parents as well
We are all going to need everyone’s support at the school board meeting
I am working on getting to talk to the mayor and the governor to see if they can help so please do not give up
If anyone read the Rio Rancho Observer look in the opinion page their is a parent and senior who have a article in there but they also have 2 email addresses to email your opinions,
theobserver@rrobserver.com & news@rrobserver.com
Use both email addresses, please everyone send them an email as well since they have not done a story for us
I also got News 13 to agree to do a story again once spring break is over
I will send out that info again when I know for sure when
But for some weird reason when I called Channel 4 news they said they were aware of this situation but have been advised not to do any stories on this issue!
What’s up with that?
Someone seems to have some influence here but not sure who or why but I think that they are getting the picture that we are not going to go away
Please keep the pressure on and let all your friends and family to join in to help us
PASS THIS ON
Yvette 994-9648
March 30, 2007 4:34 PM
KOB TV said...
What's up with KOB?
They should cover this story in Rio Rancho!
Benjamin Class of 2008
March 30, 2007 4:37 PM
Dr. Cleveland, STOP now: said...
Please read the comments here, they will inform you about what is going on with the graduation. What is sad for me is Sue Cleveland is caught up in this situation. They don’t have a foot to stand on. We’ve all been taught right from wrong. This decision is wrong!
Sue Cleveland you need to get a handle on this or it’s going to get ugly.
You cannot discriminate against a person for having a large family or for having many contacts. You cannot discriminate against anyone concerning their age and this decision is doing both!
Sue Cleveland there are numerous Hispanic families here with large families.
Renn
March 30, 2007 4:45 PM
Viva La Raza! said...
Viva La Raza!
Take a very good look at this decision ladies and gentlemen. No matter what nationality you are we have to keep letting them know it is dead wrong. Just ask “little Johnny” he knows check it out: http://littlejohnnyinriorancho.blogspot.com/
Jorge
March 30, 2007 4:55 PM
Don't believe them said...
DR. CLEVELAND GO BACK
FAMILIES, DON’T GIVE UP!
They CAN BREAK THE SO CALLED CONTRACT!
DON’T BELIEVE IT WHEN THEY TELL YOU THEY CAN’T!
THEY CAN!
THE PIT IS STILL OPEN FOR BUSINESS ON MAY 19TH!
YIPPIEEE!!
Paula
March 30, 2007 5:04 PM
Dr. Cleveland please know said...
FACT:
All of the persons affected by this decision were not allowed to provide input.
No poll, data, investigation or analysis was utilized formally or informally involving all affected.
School personnel both willfully and knowingly did not utilize any method or tool regarding all of the persons affected by this decision.
March 30, 2007 7:57 PM
resign Dr. Cleveland now! said...
I am very upset over how this entire matter has been handled from top to bottom! I don’t want to curse here but I am completely ANGRY! Business is business the buck stops with Dr. Cleveland. If she can’t open her eyes and see the harm done, she needs to resign her position. Name that school after someone that deserves it. Those punk lackey writers in the newspaper are dumber and dumber THEY DO NOT TELL ME HOW TO RAISE MY CHILDREN, EVER!!! NOR DO THEY TELL ME MY 10 YEAR OLD CAN’T COME SEE THEIR BROTHER GRADUATE! I HAVE VOTED EVERYTIME A VOTE WAS NEEDED! HOW DARE THEY LUMP ME IN WITH PERSONS THEY FEEL ARE NEGLIGENT! RETIRE HERRON AND RYANS OR CHANGE YOUR OCCUPATION. HERRON HOW COME YOU OR YOUR NEWSPAPER HAS NOT INTEVIEWED A FAMILY AGAINST THIS DECISION? WHERE THE HELL IS ACTION JACKSON IN ALL THIS? OH, AND THE RANTER IN THE NEWSPAPER, YOU MAKE ME SICK HOW “AMERICAN” YOU THINK YOU ARE! SPELL THIS B-I-G-O-T, I KNOW YOU’RE ONE BECAUSE I’M WHITE LIKE YOU FOOL!
Lynn
March 30, 2007 8:30 PM
Dr. Cleveland said...
Back to The Pit
Cris
March 30, 2007 9:49 PM
Anonymous said...
The decision is discrimatory
change it back
Gwen
March 30, 2007 9:50 PM
Anonymous said...
Change it back please
Tye
March 30, 2007 9:51 PM
Anonymous said...
I don't write very well, but all you have to do is read the comments here and they say better then I could.
This is a wrong decision send the grads back to The Pit
Anita
March 30, 2007 9:55 PM
To the good Doctor said...
Ok, here is what I would like to say. Dr. Cleveland only you can get this contract undone and get us all back to the Pit. I truly hope God comes into your heart so you can see how bad this really is.
Ryan
March 30, 2007 9:58 PM
GO RAMS GO BACK TO THE PIT said...
2007 - Largest Graduating Class in the entire state and in our school’s history.
GO RAMS GO BACK TO THE PIT
Carl's Aunt Jenny
March 31, 2007 8:26 AM
Hey Doc, Sports Illustrated said...
THE PIT IS # 13!!!
Hey Doc, Sports Illustrated said:
SI's Top 20 Venues of the 20th Century
1 Yankee Stadium
2 Augusta National
3 Michie Stadium
4 Cameron Indoor Stadium
5 Bislett Stadium
6 Wrigley Field
7 Roland Garros
8 Lambeau Field
9 Fenway Park
10 Saratoga Race Course
11 Pebble Beach
12 Wembley Stadium
13 THE PIT
14 Boston Marathon Course
15 Camden Yards
16 Lamade Stadium
17 Daytona International Speedway
18 Notre Dame Stadium
19 St. Andrews
20 Rose Bowl
Others mentioned in no particular order, BUT TAKE A LOOK AT THESE OTHER NAMES!:
Boston Garden
Taylor Field
Yost Ice Arena
Indianapolis Motor Speedway
Memorial Stadium
The Melbourne Cricket Ground
The Palestra
Husky Stadium
The Montreal Forum
Michigan Stadium
Madison Square Garden.
Patterson Field
The Maracana Stadium
Lord's cricket ground
The San Siro
Wimbledon
Monte Carlo
LSU Tiger Stadium
Beaver Stadium
Allen Fieldhouse
Jordan-Hare Stadium
The Forum
Mile High Stadium
Tiger Stadium
___________
Grapevine0691 he said she said...
The University Arena
"The Arena"
"The PIT"
Sports Illustrated's Top-20 Sports Venues of the Century:
In June, 1999, Sports Illustrated listed its top-20 sporting venues of the century and The Pit checked in at No. 13.
“Sports Illustrated in 1999 named The Pit one of the Top 20 sporting venues of the 20th century — a list that includes Yankee Stadium, Wrigley Field, Pebble Beach and Daytona International.
Yeah, that’s big-time company. That’s like being compared to Babe Ruth, Joe Louis, Man O’ War, the Roman Empire, George Washington, Marlon Brando, Katharine Hepburn.
When you make an elite list like that maybe something special had to happen in The Pit above and beyond Lobos basketball.
And it did.”
There is beaucoup (bookoo) history and memories regarding "The PIT"! It is now 41 years young! I remember as a kid walking past from a distance as they prepared to build it. Gigantic hills were formed as they removed dirt.
“Famous hole has hosted superstars, special events… It’s probably the most famous hole in the ground since the Grand Canyon. It’s almost aged as well, too. Just look at some of the characters who have brought their acts to The Pit over the past 40 years: Michael Jordan, Mick Jagger, the Eagles, Jimmy Valvano, Dennis Rodman, Jethro Tull, Kareem Abdul Jabbar, Steve Nash, Elton John, James Taylor, Alonzo Mourning, Led Zeppelin, Christian Laettner, Luciano Pavarotti, George Strait, Patrick Ewing, John Wooden, Bobby Knight, Rick Pitino.” Stevie Wonder, Magic Johnson, Santana, Larry Nance, John Thompson, Bill Cosby and that’s the short list!
The name "The Arena" or "The PIT" were always popular titles when talking about the great concerts that took place there.
"The PIT" known for incredible Basketball, at the Professional, Collegiate and High School level. My Brother helped Coach a State Championship there!
And of course UNM and High School Graduations all at "The PIT"!
If you were fortunate to have had your graduation there either from High School or UNM or both there is a fondness about the place and you have to love the name, "The PIT"! Perhaps it was the event, but there is an undeniable "energy" there. Sure its a hole in the ground but if will always remain a location of celebration, accomplishment, music, history, success, defeat, incredible wins and gut wrenching losses, woulda, coulda, shoulda, lore, myth, legend, fact, fiction, blood, sweat and tears and forever simply, "The PIT".
I am sure there has been some very good stories written and told about the various events that have taken place there (see blow). Santana played there in the early 70's, the concert was ranked in the top 4 among all concerts that summer throughout the southwest.
Endless sports stories, concerts and graduations, I remember a graduation when the entire graduating class of Eldorado High School as well as families in the audience gave the principal a standing ovation this was in 2001 or 2002, that was impressive?
Last year they estimated over 11 million people have come to the Lobo games, that does not include ALL of the Graduations, concerts, etc.!
“Bill Cosby took on the Lobos 31 years ago and came out on top”
"What a terrific atmosphere for college basketball. Great building...great history...18,000 screaming fans. It's big time hoops, baby!" - Dick Vitale ESPN
“The Pit got its nickname because it is literally a pit dug out of Albuquerque’s Southeast Mesa. The roof was built first, then dirt was excavated to create a large hole. The arena floor is 37 feet below ground level. In 1966-67, season tickets for Lobos men’s basketball were $20 for bench seats and $30 for chairbacks. A single-game ticket was $2.50.
The opening season in The Pit featured 15 home games. The highest ranked Lobos team to play in The Pit was the Lobos men of 1966-67 who achieved a No. 3 ranking in January 1967.”
“One of college basketball's most famous and recognizable buildings, University Arena is the home of New Mexico men's and women's basketball.
The Pit is built in a 37-foot hole on Albuquerque's southeast mesa. First the roof was constructed, then the hole was dug and the Arena built. That all happened in 1966. The unique Behlen roof (338 by 300 feet) was set up by contractors and then 55,000 cubic yards of earth were removed. About 28,000 yards of concrete were poured in the initial construction, which allowed a seating capacity of 14,831. The cost - an incredibly economical $1.4 million.
Arena expansion was undertaken when it became apparent that fan interest was too great even for the original structure. The expansion in 1975 cost near $2.2 million and involved the extension of a cantilevered deck above the existing facility. There are six rows in the deck, with a seating capacity of 2,300. Reserved standing-room-only spots increase The Pit's capacity to 18,018.
The 2006-07 season will be the 41st year that University Arena has served as home for Lobo hoops. The first game was played Dec. 1, 1966, with New Mexico defeating Abilene Christian, 62-53. A total of 704 games have been played overall. The Lobos have come away the victor in 569 of those, good for a stunning .808 winning percentage.
What is even more impressive about UNM's home court is that over 11 million fans have flocked into this sunken edifice to see their beloved Lobos play basketball. The exact figure stands at 11,023,733. The Lobos have averaged an astounding 15,659 fans the past 40 years, an amazing 97% of capacity.
The Lobos have finished second in the nation in attendance five times, third on four occasions, and fourth six times.
2005-06 Attendance Numbers
The University of New Mexico is one of very few schools to have both its men's and women's basketball programs rank in the top-25 in attendance during the 2005-06 season. The Lobo women were fourth while the men finished No. 21. The UNM men and women have both finished in the top-25 in each of the past eight seasons.
The rankings:
Although the men's average of 13,387 is its lowest in 25 years, UNM has still finished in the top-25 for 40 consecutive years, or every season the Lobos have played in The Pit. No other school in the country can make that claim.
UNM hosted the NCAA Championship in 1983, won by North Carolina State over Houston, the 1968, '78, '92 and 2000 West Regional, the 1985 and 1996 West Region First and Second Rounds, and 1988 McDonald's High School All-American basketball game. The NCAA Men's First and Second Rounds were here in 2002 followed by the Women's First and Second Rounds and the Midwest Regional in 2003. UNM hosted the women's first and second rounds again in 2004, followed by the men's Albuquerque Regional in 2005 and the West Regional for the women's tournament in 2006. The Pit will again host NCAA women's tournament action in 2008 and 2009.
The UNM women's basketball team is also enjoying the home court advantage The Pit offers. Over the past nine seasons under current head coach Don Flanagan, The Pit has become one of the rowdiest places in all of women's college basketball. The women have compiled a home record of 159-32 (.832) over the last 11 years. The women's team has also been in the top-10, nationally, in average attendance in each of the last eight seasons. In 2006, the women's team averaged 10,355 fans per game, fourth in the NCAA, and posted a 16-2 record. On nine different occasions, the women's squad has sold out The Pit. Five times they have filled it to the 18,018 regular season capacity. Four times they sold out NCAA tournament games when the capacity was over 16,000. Each of these nine games has come since the 1999 season.”
Rio Rancho, “Go BIG or stay HOME”! “The PIT” is the Biggest venue in the state!
Ironically, I already wrote my Brother is the Uncle of this years Graduate from Rio Rancho, who helped Coach a State Championship at "The PIT", he also graduated at "The PIT" and lives in Albuquerque but will not be able to attend this Graduation because we won't have enough tickets and this is my Brother's favorite Nephew!
I have read a lot of diplomatic emails, I've read several comments back and forth when this all started here in March with good news coverage by KOAT and then very one-sided editors from the newspapers writing without the entire facts.
Read all of those emails sent to you and then please "PASS IT ON!
RIO RANCHO BASKETBALL TEAM YOU JUST ROCKED “THE PIT”,
YOU JUST WON YOUR FIRST STATE CHAMPIONSHIP;
MR. DUNCAN ENCOURAGED YOU AND ALL STUDENTS
TO “SHOW THEM WE OWN ‘THE PIT’!!
….AND YOU DID!!
WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO NOW?
“WE’RE GOING TO DISNEY LAN….WAIT….NO…..
WE WANT TO GO BACK TO “THE PIT” FOR OUR GRADUATION, WE OWN IT NOW!!
DID YOU SEE HOW MANY FANS WE HAD THERE?! IT WAS GREAT-GO RAMS!!!
http://epaper.abqjournal.com/Repository/ml.asp?Ref=VEUvMjAwNi8xMS8wOSNBcjAzMDAw&Mode=HTML&Locale=english-skin-custom
http://epaper.abqjournal.com/Repository/ml.asp?Ref=QVRMLzE5OTkvMTEvMTIjQXIwMzUwMA==&Mode=Html&Locale=english-skin-custom
http://epaper.abqjournal.com/Repository/ml.asp?Ref=VEUvMjAwNi8xMS8wOSNBcjAzMjAx&Mode=HTML&Locale=english-skin-custom
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_________
In Great Company said...
Sports Illustrated's Top-20 Sports Venues of the Century:
In June, 1999, Sports Illustrated listed its top-20 sporting venues of the century and The Pit checked in at No. 13.
“Sports Illustrated in 1999 named The Pit one of the Top 20 sporting venues of the 20th century — a list that includes Yankee Stadium, Wrigley Field, Pebble Beach and Daytona International.
Yeah, that’s big-time company. That’s like being compared to Babe Ruth, Joe Louis, Man O’ War, the Roman Empire, George Washington, Marlon Brando, Katharine Hepburn.
When you make an elite list like that maybe something special had to happen in The Pit above and beyond Lobos basketball.
And it did.”
March 31, 2007 9:23 AM
Dr. Cleveland GO BACK said...
That is incredible information about THE PIT
being named right along with the greatest venues in THE WORLD!
Why don’t we all GO BACK TO THE PIT!!
Consider a Wedding….
you rent a location that can hold EVERYONE you invited!
We have all been various sized Weddings right?
We have THE World Famous PIT, right?
Then why are we downsizing?
Because the principal was booed?
District office needs to examine why the principal was booed
by the graduating Seniors 2006
and why Mr. Tripp was never booed?
THERE IS A REASON HE WAS BOOED
AND YOU ARE ALL LOOKING THE OTHER WAY!
I’m not condoning the booing
But you do not understand why it happened!
Don’t downsize, correct the problem.
GO BACK NOW!
Becky
March 31, 2007 10:44 AM
Becky knows said...
YES......
That is incredible information about THE PIT
being named right along with the greatest venues in THE WORLD!
THAT IS REALLY GREAT!
Why don’t we all GO BACK TO THE PIT!!
Yes consider a Wedding….
you rent a location that can hold EVERYONE you invited!
(Just like we already invited people to come to the graduation!)
We have all been to various sized Weddings right?
Small, Medium and Large!
We have THE World Famous PIT, right?
What would posses you to downsize at this late date?
Because the principal was booed?
The District office needs to examine why the principal was booed
by the graduating Seniors of 2006
and why our past principal, Mr. Tripp was never booed?
THERE IS A REASON WHY this principal WAS BOOED
AND YOU ARE ALL LOOKING THE OTHER WAY!
I’m also not condoning the booing...
But you do not understand why it happened!
Don’t downsize the location, correct the problem.
Don't discriminate against those of us with a large family or have young children!
GO BACK NOW!
Stephanie
March 31, 2007 11:45 AM
Alphonso said...
The proud parents of a graduating senior are asking you to return our daughter’s graduation to The Pit. The comments here explain it all. Something is very wrong with this last minute change no matter what the reasoning is.
Alphonso
March 31, 2007 12:09 PM
THE ANNOUNCEMENTS SUCK!! said...
THE ANNOUNCEMENTS SUCK!!
WE NEED TO GET AN ATTORNEY ON THIS. I DID NOT PAY $200 FOR A BUNCH OF MESSED UP ANNOUNCEMENTS!
I DON'T NEED THEM ALL NOW. PLEASE DON'T LET THEM GETAWAY WITH THIS.
Sal
March 31, 2007 12:15 PM
Brandon said...
We need to have our graduation at the Pit.
March 31, 2007 12:16 PM
Do the right thing Dr. Sue Cleveland. said...
I have an American flag hanging from my house and have had one there for over 15 years. I’ve voted on every issue regarding everything that required one. For me to tell you I am more an American then you are is an indication someone does not get it. For me to put you down just because you don’t see it my way is ignorance. I don’t judge people for the color of their skin, or if they have a flag in their yard, or if they don’t know what district they live in, or how old they are, or how many people they want to invite to a graduation or anything for that matter. Everyone should be able to present their point of view on any subject, period. I’m all for having the graduation in Rio Rancho, further, only after we have polled everyone affected, the seniors and their families. The current administration has it ass backwards and all you critics putting down people for speaking their minds are nothing but a bunch of …….. well I better not write that. Do the right thing Dr. Sue Cleveland.
Ernest
March 31, 2007 12:38 PM
Sherry said...
Great Petition and put this decision to a vote.
March 31, 2007 12:40 PM
CALL Yvette 994-9648 said...
I want everyone to know that we appreciate all your responses regarding our fight to go back to The Pit
I want everyone to know that we are continuing to fight this matter SO PLEASE DO NOT GIVE UP because it is going to take ALL OF US to make this happen
The Pit is still available and because we know this, we are going to keep on fighting to have our graduation their
It is very important for the Seniors when you get back to school to get that Petition signed by everyone in school who will sign it and make sure and get their numbers so we can call their parents as well
We are all going to need everyone’s support at the school board meeting
I am working on getting to talk to the mayor and the governor to see if they can help so please do not give up
If anyone read the Rio Rancho Observer look in the opinion page their is a parent and senior who have a article in there but they also have 2 email addresses to email your opinions,
theobserver@rrobserver.com & news@rrobserver.com
Use both email addresses, please everyone send them an email as well since they have not done a story for us
I also got News 13 to agree to do a story again once spring break is over
I will send out that info again when I know for sure when
But for some weird reason when I called Channel 4 news they said they were aware of this situation but have been advised not to do any stories on this issue!
What’s up with that?
Someone seems to have some influence here but not sure who or why but I think that they are getting the picture that we are not going to go away
Please keep the pressure on and let all your friends and family to join in to help us
PASS THIS ON
Yvette 994-9648
March 31, 2007 12:42 PM
"little Johnny" said...
There are a number of people, both here and in the press, who keep dragging "little Johnny," a graduating senior, along with his family, into this mess. After enduring the callous, condescending remarks, and lack of common courtesy, Little Johnny woke up this morning and got his blog on!
http://littlejohnnyinriorancho.blogspot.com/
March 31, 2007 12:44 PM
Marc said...
I want a vote to go back to the UNM Pit.
Marc
March 31, 2007 12:46 PM
RRPS go back said...
ATTN: RRPS we do not agree with how you handled the graduation change. GO BACK TO THE PIT
Carla
March 31, 2007 1:11 PM
Dr. Cleveland GO BACK TO THE PIT said...
Gary Herron’s opinions regarding families against the graduation changing are biased, rude, and of no real substance. His discrimination of anyone under the age of 10 is ludicrous and illogical. His remarks slap, he is the one that is "underhanded and nasty, at best" just look at the title of his storyline. I bet he sends in his own “rant”!
Beatrice
March 31, 2007 1:28 PM
To the news media said...
Mike and Genie Ryan have no common sense in their article, they talk about how parents need to educate their kids and what they should learn, these graduates have obviously learned or else they wouldn’t be graduating? Common sense, when we want your advice we’ll ask for it. We don’t need two “slack jawed yokes” telling us how to raise our children make that three-Gary Herron. Anytime I disagree with Sue Cleveland and her “posse” I will for sure speak up. None of you will tell what I can say or how I should think. Since when do you have the corner on freedom of speech?
Dr. Cleveland needs to let families decide.
Marge
March 31, 2007 1:29 PM
Alice said...
Dr. Cleveland we want this graduation at THE PIT, thank you.
March 31, 2007 1:31 PM
Billy said...
2007 Seniors are getting ripped off, the principal deserved to get booed last year!
March 31, 2007 1:45 PM
“Wake little Susie wake up” said...
This is the “little apple” damn it! Richard Vonacken better grow some tough skin. How’s come Tripp was never booed?
“Wake little Susie wake up”
March 31, 2007 1:47 PM
Isabel said...
Sorry Dr. Cleveland. We just can’t agree with changing this year’s graduation without allowing everyone to have input in this decision. We support the idea to have a graduation here; we don’t support harming thousands of people. We don’t support verbally degrading them in the newspaper. We don’t support discriminating against thousands of persons wanting to see a graduation.
Isabel
March 31, 2007 2:28 PM
Dr. Cleveland, superintendent: said...
Dr. Cleveland, superintendent:
Our family will have at least 12 persons in attendance. We are NOT going to short change another family from seeing their son or daughter graduate. Your decision is bad. We have six family members flying in from across the country. These plans were made well before we heard about this decision in the news. We never received any letter from the school. We want you to return the graduation to The Pit.
Darrel
March 31, 2007 2:36 PM
Dr. Cleveland said...
Fred concurs:
Whatever the merits of moving the Rio Rancho High School graduation ceremony to the Santa Ana Star Center in Rio Rancho, the decision should have been made before rather than after families had begun planning. Extended family members have already made travel plans and requested vacation times in anticipation of attending the ceremony for which they may not now get tickets. It is apparent there was not enough public deliberation about this issue. A decision affecting the entire school population should have been discussed publicly so that all voices were heard prior to the decision, particularly since the number of seats available to family and friends of the graduates has been reduced by more than two thirds. Please join us in moving the graduation ceremony back to The Pit. Sign the Petition and pass this information to everyone you know.
March 31, 2007 2:50 PM
Sue Cleveland said...
Sue Cleveland, don’t forget where you came from! This is not the Sue Cleveland I know! Sue, look at the facts and break your contract.
Dwight
March 31, 2007 3:00 PM
Manuel said...
DR. CLEVELAND YOUR DECISION IS DISCRIMINATION!
March 31, 2007 3:39 PM
Seniors 2007 said...
“Now Is the Time for All Good People to Come to the Aid of their 2007 Seniors”
March 31, 2007 4:11 PM
Dr. Cleveland said...
Dr. Cleveland, “those that fail to learn the lessons of history are doomed to repeat them”
Terry
March 31, 2007 4:18 PM
Dr. Cleveland said...
IT WAS THE CHOSEN FEW WHO YELLED THE LOUDEST, NOT EVERYONE WAS ALLOWED TO VOTE OR GIVE ANY INPUT! PRINCIPAL’S EGO WAS HURT BECAUSE HE WAS BOOED LAST YEAR, NO WONDER! THE DECISION TO CHANGE VENUES JUST HAPPENED EVEN THOUGH PLANS HAVE ALREADY BEEN MADE! THE DISTRICT IS NOW USING THE EXCUSE THEY ALREADY SIGNED THE CONTRACT! ABOUT 10,000 PEOPLE THAT WANT TO BE THERE CAN’T GO! ANNOUNCEMENTS HAVE “THE PIT” ON THEM, THAT IS TERRIBLE! WE LIVE IN AMERICA, WE HAVE RIGHTS! WE CANNOT LET THEM GET AWAY WITH THIS! FOR THE SAKE OF OUR CHILDREN!
Kevin
March 31, 2007 5:08 PM
Dr. Cleveland said...
The school board never voted on the decision to move the location of graduation. They are aware of it but refuse to overrule this mistake. The majority of parents and students do not want this. They won’t allow a vote because then it will change their plans.
Wallace
March 31, 2007 5:08 PM
To Dr. Cleveland said...
The decision being imposed on everyone is terrible planning!
Who was allowed to vote?
Who was allowed to decide?
Input should have been requested from everyone not just from those that voiced their concerns!
How is that considered fair?
All Graduates and Parents should have been advised about this change in August 2006 not this late, not this late in March 2007.
You said “many” made the decision there are “many” more that want this at “The Pit”.
Everyone did not give input!
How could this have been overlooked?
Let us vote now!
Patty
March 31, 2007 5:09 PM
Dr. Cleveland said...
Dr. Cleveland we humbly ask for the over 10,000 people that would like to be at the graduation but can't due to limited seating, PLEASE come back to your senses! For goodness sake they are naming a school after you, show some basic human compassion and fairness here!
Ron
March 31, 2007 5:21 PM
Graduation Cancelled The Observer said...
Graduation Cancelled The Observer
By TOM TREWEEK/OBSERVER STAFF REPORTER
What started recently as a simple decision has now grown into Rio Rancho Public Schools' most controversial move ever, topping even Science Policy 401 and sex education.
Two factions have developed in the debate over the location for this year's RRPS graduation ceremony. One group of parents was thrilled that it would be held at the Santa Ana Star Center, while the other wanted to use The Pit in Albuquerque, which allowed more people to attend.
Now, neither group is happy.
RRPS Superintendent Dr. Sue Cleveland has announced a press conference for later today in which she will officially cancel the graduation ceremony.
"No matter what we did, we couldn't make anyone happy," she said. "So we're going to make everyone unhappy."
By canceling graduation, Cleveland is following through with a promise to the conflicting sides: "If you two can't get along, I'm going to pull over right now."
School officials briefly considered holding graduation ceremonies at Laté Da, a drive through coffee shop on NM 528, but later decided against the idea fearing it was too large.
The school's seniors will still earn their degrees, but there will be no ceremony to commemorate that feat. Diplomas will be mailed.
Said one student, "I'm happy with Cleveland's decision. After all, the goal of graduation is to please the parents, not to honor the students for all of their hard work."
March 31, 2007 6:26 PM
graduation cancelled? said...
WHAT?????
March 31, 2007 6:48 PM
To Gary Herron said...
"To Gary Herron ... Shame on you. These wonderful kids in Rio Rancho deserve our respect. They have worked hard to get to this point in their life and you write that it is our 'greed' to want to see these kids graduate. Fine, give away your other tickets for all the other parents, grandparents, aunts, uncles, and other family/friends who are very proud of our kids. This is not abuse but pride in our child. How dare you say that the school board deserves our respect? What was it that the principal of the high school said, they are trying to create a positive experience for everyone and this is for the community? No it's not, it's for the families of the graduates. They are the ones who deserve our respect for guiding their children to this point in time. If the school board actually thought about trying to 'make a large number of people happy' they should have left well enough alone and had this celebration of accomplishment at The Pit, where there wouldn't be an issue of how many people can attend. You should be ashamed of your own selfishness. This isn't a community event that needs to be in Rio Rancho or at the Star Center, it is a celebration for everyone. Look at how many kids will graduate, 600 and something. This is not just for the families, or the community, this is for all of the state to see how well Rio Rancho has excelled."
March 31, 2007 6:51 PM
Graduation Cancelled? said...
Did you hear this?
WHAT?????
March 31, 2007 7:06 PM
Call Dr. Cleveland now said...
Graduation Cancelled
The Observer By TOM TREWEEK/OBSERVER STAFF REPORTER
What started recently as a simple decision has now grown into Rio Rancho Public Schools' most controversial move ever, topping even Science Policy 401 and sex education.
Two factions have developed in the debate over the location for this year's RRPS graduation ceremony. One group of parents was thrilled that it would be held at the Santa Ana Star Center, while the other wanted to use The Pit in Albuquerque, which allowed more people to attend.
Now, neither group is happy.
RRPS Superintendent Dr. Sue Cleveland has announced a press conference for later today in which she will officially cancel the graduation ceremony.
"No matter what we did, we couldn't make anyone happy," she said. "So we're going to make everyone unhappy."
By canceling graduation, Cleveland is following through with a promise to the conflicting sides: "If you two can't get along, I'm going to pull over right now."
School officials briefly considered holding graduation ceremonies at Laté Da, a drive through coffee shop on NM 528, but later decided against the idea fearing it was too large.
The school's seniors will still earn their degrees, but there will be no ceremony to commemorate that feat. Diplomas will be mailed.
Said one student, "I'm happy with Cleveland's decision. After all, the goal of graduation is to please the parents, not to honor the students for all of their hard work."
March 31, 2007 7:16 PM
April's fool said...
Oh, hey, that's a good one! It's a hoax, folks. Now that I look at it, they were intentionally over the top in suggesting that graduation be held at Late Da - it wouldn't hold a roll of stamps. Pretty sure the call you make should be to The Observer editor, not Sue Cleveland - she didn't say it, and they make it clear in the editor's note: "We hope you recognize that none of the accounts nor quoted statements were true."
April 1, 2007 8:49 AM
retired reporter said...
How does the Observer know that you want them to do a story? Have you called them, or are you just expecting them to respond to your calls to the TV stations? No need to send a reporter, they are allowing you the space to tell your own story in letters and comments.
April 1, 2007 8:56 AM
good joke bad joke said...
this was a BAD joke, for sure The RR Observer is consistent.
Molly
April 1, 2007 8:59 AM
retired reporter said...
Yvette,
Seriously - the next time you pick up the phone to call KOAT, call The Observer. I suspect they aren't covering it because you haven't called them, yet you call the TV station in Albuquerque? Newspaper reporters operate the same way the TV stations do: they get news because someone makes the effort to share news.
April 1, 2007 9:12 AM
news junkie said...
I'm trying to figure out what the ABQ TV stations expect to gain from covering this - could it be that they have financial interest in holding graduation at the Pit? Are they corporate partners there? Seems odd to suggest one media source has financial interest without wondering about the others who appear so eager to cover it? What's in it for them - it can't be ratings. Can anyone tell me anything about this?
April 1, 2007 9:20 AM
matches malone said...
i'll see ya' all at 1
April 1, 2007 9:46 AM
tell me more retired said...
Retired,
Did you do any more research on this?
retired reporter said...
Tell me more: I'm paraphrasing, but I remember "Rants" in the Observer newspaper from parents with words to this effect, i.e., "what were they thinking" in building a Center not large enough to accommodate graduates. I suspect that the Administration may be thinking they were doing the "right" thing. I need to do a bit more research on the archived specifics, my retention isn't what it once was.
April 1, 2007 10:19 AM
Nobody's Fool said...
Oops, I am an April Fool,
Sorry, the graduation is not cancelled!
Ummmm...maybe I should have read it better before reading/posting portions of the article, I shoulda’ read the whole thing.
April 1, 2007 10:34 AM
Anonymous said...
I got the joke it was a BAD joke
April 1, 2007 10:46 AM
call The Observer said...
892-8080
Betta
April 1, 2007 10:52 AM
little Johnny got his blog on! said...
little Johnny said...
There are a number of people, both here and in the press, who keep dragging "little Johnny," a graduating senior, along with his family, into this mess. After enduring the callous, condescending remarks, and lack of common courtesy, Little Johnny woke up the other morning and got his blog on!
http://littlejohnnyinriorancho.blogspot.com/
April 1, 2007 11:55 AM
little johnny said...
Dear retired reporter:
Um...real newspapers actually go out and find the news. The news doesn't have to come looking for a reporter. And, hasn't the Observer already received letters and emails concerning this story? KOAT has done three newscasts on it. Is the paper waiting for someone to say pretty please?
It's interesting, and quite revealing, that the Observer's first front page news article about the Rio Rancho High School graduation ceremony being hijacked by the school administration, is not serious coverage, but a lame joke. That's exactly how they see this situation: as a joke.
Yvette Aragon may have to drive over to the Observer's offices and stand outside holding something shiny to get their attention.
April 1, 2007 12:31 PM
Inego Montoya said...
That's exactly what they've done! RRPS has HIJACKED the graduation and they're holding it hostage at the Santa Ana Star Center!
Curse you, Vonacken!
April 1, 2007 12:38 PM
retired reporter said...
Little Johnny,
You are misinformed, it doesn't work this way at all. True, reporters "go out" to get news, but they are quite often called or tipped as to when and where news happens - news antennae aren't standard issue in "J" school, we should be so lucky.
KOAT has done the stories because they have been called. Or do you actually think their news van was driving up 528 and their superior news antennae picked up the graduation buzz signal? "Quick! Make a U-turn, there's a strong signal coming from the southeast corner of this-a-way and that-a-way." April Fools! Not likely. They were called, otherwise they wouldn't have bothered.
You may disagree with the method, but his story is being covered without a reporter: they are allowing significant space to the letters and statements from both sides of this issue. Truth is, they aren't required to do anything at all.
April 1, 2007 1:13 PM
retired reporter said...
Yikes, that's "this" story. Guess I still need a copy editor :-)
April 1, 2007 1:14 PM
retired said...
To Retired,
I was asked to leave a comment here.This info is here in the comments of this blog I just copied them you can go back thru the comments and find them.Here are two different reporters going after a story.
Additionally, KOAT called me at the beginning of this entire matter just so you know.
John
KOAT wants you to call said...
Please call or email:
Rio Rancho Blog
KOAT is interested in updating our story on your fight to have the
graduation ceremonies moved back to the Pit.
Please write back with contact information or give me a call.
Thanks,
Cary J. Schwanitz
505-884-6324
cschwanitz@hearst.com
March 22, 2007 9:17 AM
Albuquerque Tribune said...
Please email and call Stephanie:
HI, this is Stephanie from the Albuquerque Tribune. I'd like to speak to someone about this. My number is 823-3609.
Thanks,
Stephanie Garcia Krenrich
sgarciakrenrich@abqtrib.com
April 1, 2007 1:40 PM
tell me more retired said...
Retired,
Did you do any more research on this?
retired reporter said...
Tell me more: I'm paraphrasing, but I remember "Rants" in the Observer newspaper from parents with words to this effect, i.e., "what were they thinking" in building a Center not large enough to accommodate graduates. I suspect that the Administration may be thinking they were doing the "right" thing. I need to do a bit more research on the archived specifics, my retention isn't what it once was.
April 1, 2007 1:43 PM
call The Observer said...
Anyone that would like to give them a story for the ages please
encourage everyone you know to
call The Observer said...
892-8080
Betta
April 1, 2007 3:52 PM
retired reporter said...
Tell me more retired,
I wasn't successful in locating the info on the Observer website, but I was successful in my request to review the printed archives for this period last year. That said, I haven't had an opportunity to visit the Observer offices as yet due to some unexpected travel recently. When I am available to do so, I'll update and share.
April 1, 2007 3:59 PM
I'm still mad said...
Hi, Back to The Pit people.
I just finished reading the front page of today’s Observer newspaper. Wheeww! My blood pressure just went through the roof! I called my friend to tell her and found out it was all an April Fool’s Joke! OUCH, I am still boiling angry! My friend let me know how upset her family was after reading the front page and told me about this web site. I have been reading a lot of the comments here and I am even more disgusted! I now I decided to add one too! Oh my, I am so glad I found you.
I admit I WAS one of those that did not mind the graduation was at the Star Center. Thanks to the little April Fool’s gag I am mad as hell and did not realize how many people are getting hurt over this! Count us in! Dr. Cleveland, change the graduation. Observer news staff, I hate you!!!
Danielle
April 1, 2007 5:07 PM
WHAAAAT? said...
Go to:
http://littlejohnnyinriorancho.blogspot.com/
I am very saddened that discrimination is very much a large part of this entire decision.
Spanish speakers, whiners, being rowdy covered all at one time? Yes and the good editor, Mr. Herron or anyone else did not bother to clarify this language’s origin or history in this part of the country?
Whaaaat?
The shameless face of bigotry rears its ugly head:
From the Observer
"I agree with the guy on the Ford advertisements speaking in Spanish, and some of the furniture stores do the same. I won't buy from any of them, either. If you want to speak Spanish, move back to Mexico. Also, I have never seen so many whiners about where they're going to have the graduation. If they hadn't acted so rude and out of order last year, maybe they would have listened to them. Also, Ned Cantwell's (columns) are very good."
This is just straight-up prejudice. FYI, amigo, Spanish was spoken in New Mexico long before English. I notice Mr. Herron didn't add his two cents to this rant.
little Johnny got his blog on! said...
little Johnny said...
There are a number of people, both here and in the press, who keep dragging "little Johnny," a graduating senior, along with his family, into this mess. After enduring the callous, condescending remarks, and lack of common courtesy, Little Johnny woke up the other morning and got his blog on!
http://littlejohnnyinriorancho.blogspot.com/
April 1, 2007 6:15 PM
Call Yvette 994-9648 said...
Call Yvette 994-9648
We have started a Hard Copy paper PETITION and if you would like to sign it, please call me and I will meet you to get it signed.
My number again is 994-9648.
Any other ideas?
Let me know, because we need to let them know that WE ARE NOT JUST "MAKING NOISE"
WE all know this is a very important issue to our graduates and to all of us involved.
We need to continue to show our support.
April 1, 2007 6:31 PM
PIT still open on 5/19 said...
Hello everyone,
Reminder:
I spoke to THE PIT, yes!
They still have May 19TH open! They will not schedule anything on that day.
Cost for THE PIT = $7,800.00
Cost for the Center = $6,200.00
A seat at the Center costs more then a seat at THE PIT.
How about that!
M
April 1, 2007 6:34 PM
Great comment said...
Great comment
“What we have here is failure to communicate”
This has been said over and over again. I think because we are short on time we need to put this to a fair vote. No hanky panky. The school board is not going to back us, if they were they already would have. They are all stalling just by the fact they have not allowed a vote by anyone formally. They know their decision would lose in a fair vote. This has power play written all over it. Everyone is pointing fingers but they are not budging. Even the Rio Rancho media is supporting the bad decision and criticizing any little comment that is made.
Keep passing the word along The Pit is still available. All that nonsense with TV feed is garbage and it confirms they messed up. The Rio Rancho media is NOW trying to say that The Pit is only going to hold 11,000, they are still over 60% short! 60% percent is still a lot of people that can’t be there and want to be there. I also think The Pit would hold more then 11,000 people the media has their figures wrong. Also, they said there are 4 ways to get to the Star Center, please draw me a map. You have to drive through Rio Rancho to get to a 2 lane road, and when you get there it is 1 way in and 1 way out. I know, I go to the hockey games.
Abe
April 1, 2007 6:47 PM
get with it said...
I can't see how we'll get anything changed if we can't get our information straight. Gary Herron wrote the column, but he is not the editor. If you're going to point the finger of blame, be sure that your information is correct, otherwise this blog has no credibility.
April 1, 2007 8:41 PM
hockey fan said...
Power play? Only in hockey. Whether or not you agree with the decision, they are doing the job they are paid to do. They don’t require our opinions or votes to make this decision, and if they were the least bit interested, they would have asked for input BEFORE they made the decision. They didn’t. Get it?
April 1, 2007 8:44 PM
feeling silly said...
To I'm still mad . . .
Oh, boy, I got sucked into that one, too. I read something another website earlier today, though, that talked about things to watch for in the media on April Fool's. One of them was "Is it over the top?" When I got to the part about holding graduation at Late Da, I was boiling over, too, thinking, "WHAT?!!". Then I noticed that the date was just above the article, and it reads "April Fool's, 2007", and I thought, "Oh my God! This is COMPLETELY over the top!" I started laughing, and I'm still laughing. They got us. It tells me that they do understand how serious it is, and, hey - it made the front page! If there is no such thing as bad publicity, it will work to call attention to it.
April 1, 2007 8:58 PM
sign it said...
How is the media coverage helping? TV, newspaper, they’re all the same, and the administration isn’t going to budge now that the media is involved – they can’t, they’ll look too silly. Too public, and too controversial, they won’t touch it. I say get the signatures and hope for the best.
April 1, 2007 9:03 PM
lost said...
Abe,
I think there are three ways in: two off Unser and one off Idalia. True, when you get there, traffic is condensed to one road, but they usually open two lanes going in. I don't know how they count four, though.
April 1, 2007 9:06 PM
krypton said...
I can't find anything anywhere that says we can vote on where graduation is held. Can somebody help me understand how we're going to get anyone to allow us to vote?
April 1, 2007 9:16 PM
get with it said...
Get with it,
Thanks, I worded wrong, It is corrected now:
WHAAAAT? said...
Go to:
http://littlejohnnyinriorancho.blogspot.com/
I am very saddened that discrimination is very much a large part of this entire decision.
Spanish speakers, whiners, being rowdy covered all at one time? Yes and the neither the good editor, nor Mr. Herron or anyone else did not bother to clarify this language’s origin or history in this part of the country?
Whaaaat?
The shameless face of bigotry rears its ugly head:
From the Observer
"I agree with the guy on the Ford advertisements speaking in Spanish, and some of the furniture stores do the same. I won't buy from any of them, either. If you want to speak Spanish, move back to Mexico. Also, I have never seen so many whiners about where they're going to have the graduation. If they hadn't acted so rude and out of order last year, maybe they would have listened to them. Also, Ned Cantwell's (columns) are very good."
This is just straight-up prejudice. FYI, amigo, Spanish was spoken in New Mexico long before English. I notice Mr. Herron didn't add his two cents to this rant.
little Johnny got his blog on! said...
little Johnny said...
There are a number of people, both here and in the press, who keep dragging "little Johnny," a graduating senior, along with his family, into this mess. After enduring the callous, condescending remarks, and lack of common courtesy, Little Johnny woke up the other morning and got his blog on!
http://littlejohnnyinriorancho.blogspot.com/
April 1, 2007 9:20 PM
Call Yvette 994-9648 said...
Yes, Call Yvette 994-9648
We have started a Hard Copy paper PETITION and if you would like to sign it, please call me and I will meet you to get it signed.
My number again is 994-9648.
Any other ideas please let me know?
Let me know, because we need to let them know that WE ARE NOT JUST "MAKING NOISE"
WE all know this is a very important issue to our graduates and to all of us involved.
We need to continue to show our support.
April 1, 2007 9:24 PM
Get it? Got it! Good said...
True:
"if they were the least bit interested, they would have asked for input BEFORE they made the decision"
April 1, 2007 9:27 PM
democracy rules said...
We might be able to save some time and energy if we could figure out where to find the language in the Constitution, the City Charter, the Administration policy or any documentation that says we're entitled to vote. Anybody?
April 1, 2007 9:46 PM
Maggie Mae said...
Well, lets make sure we tell everyone we know to sign Yvette's petition. Because she has the hard copy.
PASS IT ON
April 1, 2007 9:59 PM
Carlos said...
This years seniors should not be blamed for last years problems.
Telling people to go back to Mexico and I am a whiner because I think the decision is wrong?
1 way in or 4 ways in, whatever, that place for sure is going to be a mess going and leaving.
Well, we all have our opinions.
I'm being peaceful and encourage everyone to do the same.
April 1, 2007 10:07 PM
democracy rocks said...
A petition signed by parents and families who are not homeowners and/or tax payers may not have much weight, just a thought.
April 1, 2007 10:09 PM
Laté Da said...
Laté Da!
NO THE PIT
April 2, 2007 6:34 AM
for the sake of our children said...
For the sake of our children!
April 2, 2007 6:37 AM
DR. Cleveland, WHAT DID WE DO WRONG? said...
"little Johnny's” new words:
You cannot discriminate against a person for having a large family or for having a large amount of contacts. You cannot discriminate against anyone concerning their age and this decision is doing both!
Sally
DR. Cleveland, WHAT DID WE DO WRONG? said...
"little Johnny's” new words:
“ . . . That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles, and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and HAPPINESS . . . it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security. . .”
Lloyd
ORIGINAL BLOG:
DR. Cleveland, WHAT DID WE DO WRONG? said...
WHAT DID WE DO WRONG?
I’m going to start this comment here and encourage anyone that would like our graduation to return to THE PIT to add on to this comment if you would like:
I started out this comment with a question. If nobody had raised concerns then we would have never been made to feel like “the bad guy”, like we did something wrong, because I see the stress this is causing my parents and my friends and many others. Something is very wrong here if people in the news media are going to make you feel bad. Anonymous people putting down my fellow graduates calling them “little Johnny” and making fun of his “large family”, telling him his parents and all of us were “hypocrites” for questioning the decision and boasting how American they are and we aren’t! Who could be so important in this great big world to design such a “caste system” type of thinking?
I can tell you this Dr. Cleveland they have motivated me TO TRY EVEN HARDER NOW! We know The Pit is still open for business and the Star Center can break your contract. Just like this person so rudely stated what words “little Johnny” would learn I have learned a few myself, “WE HAVE DONE NOTHING WRONG”!
Class of 2007
April 2, 2007 6:51 AM
For the sake of our children! said...
YES, For the sake of our children!
April 2, 2007 7:23 AM
For the sake of our children! said...
YES, For the sake of our children!
April 2, 2007 7:24 AM
Anonymous said...
My daughter Linnea Martinez a Senior at Rio Rancho High started the firstsigned petition and had over 900 signatures to move graduation back to the UNM Pit. She was told to stop and that she could be expelled from school for petitioning and her petitions were taken away. She has backed off from her petition (as I cautioned her) and now she cannot voice her opinion.
Sincerely Frustrated
Nova Shah (novashah@cableone.net) and
Linnea Martinez (monkeybiz2007@hotmail.com)
April 2, 2007 7:25 AM
yaragon said...
Today the seniors did a wonderful thing by putting those flyers out all over the school and by writing on the sidewalks how did they respond to this by cleaning it up I want to encourage you to continue putting the flyers out everyday and continue with the petition and to remind everyone that the school board meeting is April 9 at 5:00 pm anyone that can attend please go have family members friends anyone who wants to support the move to THE PIT go please call me if you know for sure that you are going to attend so we can all get together before that date my number again is 994-9648 or email me at nanee_angel@yahoo.com
April 2, 2007 10:03 AM
SCHOOL BOARD MEETING said...
THE SCHOOL BOARD MEETING
Monday April 9 at 5:00 pm
ANYONE THAT CAN ATTEND PLEASE GO
HAVE FAMILY MEMBERS-FRIENDS-ANYONE
WHO WANTS TO SUPPORT THE MOVE TO THE PIT
PLEASE GO
CALL ME IF YOU KNOW FOR SURE THAT YOU ARE GOING TO ATTEND
SO WE CAN ALL GET TOGETHER BEFORE THAT DATE
MY NUMBER AGAIN IS 994-9648
OR EMAIL ME AT nanee_angel@yahoo.com
Yvette
April 2, 2007 10:15 AM
Sense of humor said...
Late Da! Rhymes with Koom ba ya!
April 2, 2007 10:59 AM
DR. Cleveland, WHAT DID WE DO WRONG? said...
"little Johnny's” new words:
For the sake of the children
DR. Cleveland, WHAT DID WE DO WRONG? said…
"little Johnny's” new words:
You cannot discriminate against a person for having a large family or for having a large amount of contacts. You cannot discriminate against anyone concerning their age and this decision is doing both!
Sally
DR. Cleveland, WHAT DID WE DO WRONG? said...
"little Johnny's” new words:
“ . . . That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles, and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and HAPPINESS . . . it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security. . .”
Lloyd
ORIGINAL BLOG:
DR. Cleveland, WHAT DID WE DO WRONG? said...
WHAT DID WE DO WRONG?
I’m going to start this comment here and encourage anyone that would like our graduation to return to THE PIT to add on to this comment if you would like:
I started out this comment with a question. If nobody had raised concerns then we would have never been made to feel like “the bad guy”, like we did something wrong, because I see the stress this is causing my parents and my friends and many others. Something is very wrong here if people in the news media are going to make you feel bad. Anonymous people putting down my fellow graduates calling them “little Johnny” and making fun of his “large family”, telling him his parents and all of us were “hypocrites” for questioning the decision and boasting how American they are and we aren’t! Who could be so important in this great big world to design such a “caste system” type of thinking?
I can tell you this Dr. Cleveland they have motivated me TO TRY EVEN HARDER NOW! We know The Pit is still open for business and the Star Center can break your contract. Just like this person so rudely stated what words “little Johnny” would learn I have learned a few myself, “WE HAVE DONE NOTHING WRONG”!
Class of 2007
April 2, 2007 11:13 AM
Class of 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010 said...
Class of 2007
(& 2008, 2009, 2010)
HOW MANY GUESTS
ARE PLANNING TO ATTEND YOUR GRADUATION?
IS IT LESS THAN 8?
IS IT MORE THAN 8?
If you said MORE than 8, then you need to sign the petition to move YOUR Graduation ceremony back to THE PIT!
Mon 4/2 - Thu 4/5 keep an eye out for people passing
around the petition at the high school
THE PIT has twice the capacity of the Arena. If all of the previous graduations are an indicator, the Arena will not be large enough until Rio Rancho HS and Dr. Cleveland HS have separate graduations. (not for at least another 4 years!)
PARENTS (and residents of Rio Rancho)-
If you would like to sign the petition, please contact
Yvette @ 994-9648. She will make arrangements with you to sign the petition.
PLEASE HELP in this effort by attending the School board meeting April 9 at 5pm. We need as many people as possible to come support this petition.
April 2, 2007 12:21 PM
SCHOOL BOARD MEETING 4/9 said...
THE SCHOOL BOARD MEETING
Monday April 9 at 5:00 pm
ANYONE THAT CAN ATTEND PLEASE GO
HAVE FAMILY MEMBERS-FRIENDS-ANYONE
WHO WANTS TO SUPPORT THE MOVE TO THE PIT
PLEASE GO
CALL ME IF YOU KNOW FOR SURE THAT YOU ARE GOING TO ATTEND
SO WE CAN ALL GET TOGETHER BEFORE THAT DATE
MY NUMBER AGAIN IS 994-9648
OR EMAIL ME AT nanee_angel@yahoo.com
April 2, 2007 12:45 PM
DR. Cleveland, WHAT DID WE DO WRONG? said...
DR. Cleveland, WHAT DID WE DO WRONG?
"little Johnny's” new words:
"unintended consequence"
Jose
DR. Cleveland, WHAT DID WE DO WRONG? said….
"little Johnny's” new words:
For the sake of the children
DR. Cleveland, WHAT DID WE DO WRONG? said…
"little Johnny's” new words:
You cannot discriminate against a person for having a large family or for having a large amount of contacts. You cannot discriminate against anyone concerning their age and this decision is doing both!
Sally
DR. Cleveland, WHAT DID WE DO WRONG? said...
"little Johnny's” new words:
“ . . . That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles, and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and HAPPINESS . . . it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security. . .”
Lloyd
ORIGINAL BLOG:
DR. Cleveland, WHAT DID WE DO WRONG? said...
WHAT DID WE DO WRONG?
I’m going to start this comment here and encourage anyone that would like our graduation to return to THE PIT to add on to this comment if you would like:
I started out this comment with a question. If nobody had raised concerns then we would have never been made to feel like “the bad guy”, like we did something wrong, because I see the stress this is causing my parents and my friends and many others. Something is very wrong here if people in the news media are going to make you feel bad. Anonymous people putting down my fellow graduates calling them “little Johnny” and making fun of his “large family”, telling him his parents and all of us were “hypocrites” for questioning the decision and boasting how American they are and we aren’t! Who could be so important in this great big world to design such a “caste system” type of thinking?
I can tell you this Dr. Cleveland they have motivated me TO TRY EVEN HARDER NOW! We know The Pit is still open for business and the Star Center can break your contract. Just like this person so rudely stated what words “little Johnny” would learn I have learned a few myself, “WE HAVE DONE NOTHING WRONG”!
Class of 2007
April 2, 2007 4:02 PM
To the "ranter" said...
Our Graduate has three (3) generations of over 50 relatives, including his parents and two (2) Brothers that Graduated at “The Pit”.
All of those generations no longer live in NM, but we are tight group.
We participate in Family Reunions and the turnout is huge.
Someone already noted not to penalize large families and this is true.
We need a lot more then six (6) tickets, sorry.
We adhere to the philosophy go forth and multiply, we did and we do.
Now we have an “owned by the casino/center hockey rink” venue to look forward to that is just too small.
We are talking in circles here and I have read and heard enough evidence to confirm the school’s decision is totally wrong and unfair.
Sorry, this inappropriate decision and how it is being forced upon everyone is way, way out of line.
Quoting others here, “we have rights”, “this is America”, hell someone submitted the Declaration of Independence for goodness sake!?
But, they are right!
Because there was no input from everyone, no vote and no Democracy, more like hypocrisy and dictatorship!
There are some classic rebuttals here I have really enjoyed reading them, they all sing the same song when all is said and done.
In support of GO BACK TO THE PIT.
You are the “hypocrite” and so are those you feel you have to protect.
Go "little Johnny", you GO!!
April 2, 2007 5:04 PM
My Graduation 2007 said...
My Graduation 2007
Class Ring - $400 (In Albuquerque)
Announcements/Cap & Gown - $200 (In Albuquerque)
Invitations - $150 (In Albuquerque)
Graduation pictures - $400 (In Albuquerque)
8 family members flying in - $3,600
Graduation party - $2,000
Having my entire family who encouraged me for the last 13 years celebrate with me at
THE PIT.....
PRICELESS!!!
April 2, 2007 5:39 PM
DR. Cleveland, WHAT DID WE DO WRONG? said...
"little Johnny's” new words:
“…Our fathers brought forth on this continent a new nation, conceived in liberty and dedicated to the proposition that all men are created equal”
Rachel
DR. Cleveland, WHAT DID WE DO WRONG? said….
"little Johnny's” new words:
"unintended consequence"
Jose
DR. Cleveland, WHAT DID WE DO WRONG? said….
"little Johnny's” new words:
For the sake of the children
DR. Cleveland, WHAT DID WE DO WRONG? said…
"little Johnny's” new words:
You cannot discriminate against a person for having a large family or for having a large amount of contacts. You cannot discriminate against anyone concerning their age and this decision is doing both!
Sally
DR. Cleveland, WHAT DID WE DO WRONG? said...
"little Johnny's” new words:
“ . . . That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles, and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and HAPPINESS . . . it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security. . .”
Lloyd
ORIGINAL BLOG:
DR. Cleveland, WHAT DID WE DO WRONG? said...
WHAT DID WE DO WRONG?
I’m going to start this comment here and encourage anyone that would like our graduation to return to THE PIT to add on to this comment if you would like:
I started out this comment with a question. If nobody had raised concerns then we would have never been made to feel like “the bad guy”, like we did something wrong, because I see the stress this is causing my parents and my friends and many others. Something is very wrong here if people in the news media are going to make you feel bad. Anonymous people putting down my fellow graduates calling them “little Johnny” and making fun of his “large family”, telling him his parents and all of us were “hypocrites” for questioning the decision and boasting how American they are and we aren’t! Who could be so important in this great big world to design such a “caste system” type of thinking?
I can tell you this Dr. Cleveland they have motivated me TO TRY EVEN HARDER NOW! We know The Pit is still open for business and the Star Center can break your contract. Just like this person so rudely stated what words “little Johnny” would learn I have learned a few myself, “WE HAVE DONE NOTHING WRONG”!
Class of 2007
April 2, 2007 6:22 PM
RE: Mike and Genie Ryan said...
Copy and paste this info below into your browser
You will reach another web log blog titled – “What's Wrong With This Picture?”
Scroll down to the 4TH post titled - Diane Velasco (J-school Piece revised)
Then read about Mr. Mike Ryan, Mike and Genie Ryan are the ones that put us down with their story titled – “Graduation Gripes? Get Over It” here they told us how to raise our children and all about (their) priorities and could not understand why we were still “griping”. Mike, someone already said, “those that fail to learn the lessons of history are doomed to repeat them”. I’d like to hear your side of story before I prejudge you unlike how you and the Mrs. prejudged us in your story:
http://mgbralley-whatswrongwiththispicture.blogspot.com/2006_09_01_mgb
ralley-whatswrongwiththispicture_archive.html
Diane Velasco - A local journalist, as enthused about the use of new technology as she was dismayed by the newsprint world….,
“The (Albuquerque) Journal is the Jurassic Park of journalism,” said Diane Velasco.
“The choice was clear: leave or fossilize," she said. “Journalism has lost its soul.”
She explained that the Journal was using late 1980s computers that could do few things that current technology allows. She resigned on July 4, 2005, in a patriotic act and political gesture reminiscing on the revolutionary press of the mid 1770’s.
Velasco graduated from the University of New Mexico in 1996 with a journalism degree.
She went to work for Publisher Mike Ryan at the Rio Rancho Observer.
As managing editor, and using her business education, she turned a 3 percent loss into a 17 percent profit after only two months on the job.
She did a series of investigative reports on the Rio Rancho School District and exposed 19 fire code violations in the newly built high school, funded by Intel.
She also reported that a high school teacher had raped six students and one teacher.
Velasco infuriated school officials to the point they insisted that any question she had must be forwarded in writing.
Her publisher (Ryan) thought it was OK for school officials to make such a request. (!?)
She then became involved in a First Amendment battle with the assistance of Bob Johnson of the Federation for Open Government and Attorney Bill Dixon.
On three occasions, (Mike) Ryan turned over Velasco’s interview notes to citizens and to “the fat cat millionaires, Don Chalmers and others,” Velasco said.
That she said destroyed the trust that reporters have to develop with sources, especially when the issues are about the sources’ bosses.
Velasco wanted to create a business with a social mission. The Citizen Media Group is more than just an online newspaper; it is also a foundation dedicated to improving the understanding of journalism.
For all that Velasco finds wrong with newspapers, she has tightened traditional thinking about journalistic practices.
Under The Citizen’s policies, “We will use confidential sources whenever necessary to bring important information to the public, and will protect our right to do so to the fullest extent of Constitutional law,” She said.
April 2, 2007 7:57 PM
To The Observer said...
Attn: The Observer,
Your joke was
"underhanded and nasty, at best"
April 2, 2007 9:41 PM
To The Observer said...
Attn: The Observer,
Your joke was
"underhanded and nasty, at best"
BACK TO THE PIT
Darlene
April 2, 2007 9:52 PM
To The Observer said...
Attn: The Observer,
Your joke was
"underhanded and nasty, at best"
BACK TO THE PIT
Lori
April 2, 2007 9:53 PM
To The Observer said...
Attn: The Observer,
Your joke was
"underhanded and nasty, at best"
BACK TO THE PIT
Dennis
April 2, 2007 9:55 PM
TO THE OBSERVER said...
Attn: The Observer,
Your joke was
"underhanded and nasty, at best"
BACK TO THE PIT
Josephine
April 2, 2007 9:56 PM
TO THE OBSERVER said...
Attn: The Observer,
Your joke was
"underhanded and nasty, at best"
BACK TO THE PIT
Cristina
April 2, 2007 9:59 PM
TO THE OBSERVER said...
Attn: The Observer,
Your joke was
"underhanded and nasty, at best"
BACK TO THE PIT
Deb
April 2, 2007 10:01 PM
TO THE OBSERVER said...
Attn: The Observer,
Your joke was
"underhanded and nasty, at best"
BACK TO THE PIT
FLORENCE
April 2, 2007 10:03 PM
TO THE OBSERVER said...
Attn: The Observer,
Your joke was
"underhanded and nasty, at best"
BACK TO THE PIT
Michelle
April 2, 2007 10:04 PM
TO THE OBSERVER said...
Attn: The Observer,
Your joke was
"underhanded and nasty, at best"
BACK TO THE PIT
Kay
April 2, 2007 10:05 PM
Yes RE: Mike and Genie Ryan said...
Copy and paste this info below into your browser
You will reach another web log blog titled – “What's Wrong With This Picture?”
Scroll down to the 4TH post titled - Diane Velasco (J-school Piece revised)
Then read about Mr. Mike Ryan, Mike and Genie Ryan are the ones that put us down with their story titled – “Graduation Gripes? Get Over It” here they told us how to raise our children and all about (their) priorities and could not understand why we were still “griping”. Mike, someone already said, “those that fail to learn the lessons of history are doomed to repeat them”. I’d like to hear your side of story before I prejudge you unlike how you and the Mrs. prejudged us in your story:
http://mgbralley-whatswrongwiththispicture.blogspot.com/2006_09_01_mgb
ralley-whatswrongwiththispicture_archive.html
Diane Velasco - A local journalist, as enthused about the use of new technology as she was dismayed by the newsprint world….,
“The (Albuquerque) Journal is the Jurassic Park of journalism,” said Diane Velasco.
“The choice was clear: leave or fossilize," she said. “Journalism has lost its soul.”
She explained that the Journal was using late 1980s computers that could do few things that current technology allows. She resigned on July 4, 2005, in a patriotic act and political gesture reminiscing on the revolutionary press of the mid 1770’s.
Velasco graduated from the University of New Mexico in 1996 with a journalism degree.
She went to work for Publisher Mike Ryan at the Rio Rancho Observer.
As managing editor, and using her business education, she turned a 3 percent loss into a 17 percent profit after only two months on the job.
She did a series of investigative reports on the Rio Rancho School District and exposed 19 fire code violations in the newly built high school, funded by Intel.
She also reported that a high school teacher had raped six students and one teacher.
Velasco infuriated school officials to the point they insisted that any question she had must be forwarded in writing.
Her publisher (Ryan) thought it was OK for school officials to make such a request. (!?)
She then became involved in a First Amendment battle with the assistance of Bob Johnson of the Federation for Open Government and Attorney Bill Dixon.
On three occasions, (Mike) Ryan turned over Velasco’s interview notes to citizens and to “the fat cat millionaires, Don Chalmers and others,” Velasco said.
That she said destroyed the trust that reporters have to develop with sources, especially when the issues are about the sources’ bosses.
Velasco wanted to create a business with a social mission. The Citizen Media Group is more than just an online newspaper; it is also a foundation dedicated to improving the understanding of journalism.
For all that Velasco finds wrong with newspapers, she has tightened traditional thinking about journalistic practices.
Under The Citizen’s policies, “We will use confidential sources whenever necessary to bring important information to the public, and will protect our right to do so to the fullest extent of Constitutional law,” She said.
April 2, 2007 10:08 PM
TO THE OBSERVER said...
Attn: The Observer,
Your joke was
"underhanded and nasty, at best"
BACK TO THE PIT
Senior 2007
April 2, 2007 10:09 PM
OVER THE NEXT 4 YEARS! said...
REMEMBER THIS DECISION WILL AFFECT ALL GRADUATING SENIORS, THEIR FAMILIES AND LOVED ONES OVER THE NEXT 4 YEARS OR UNTIL THE NEW SCHOOL IS OPEN!
ATTENTION: SENIORS, PARENTS, GUARDIANS, FAMILIES, RELATIVES, STUDENTS AND CONCERNED PERSONS
GREAT NEWS!!
THE PIT IS STILL AVAILABLE ON MAY 19TH
AND THEY WILL NOT BE BOOKING THAT TIME AND DATE FOR ANYONE
IT IS STILL OPEN!!!
We are a group of families that would like to have the Class of 2007 Graduation returned to "THE PIT."
At minimum, let’s put this matter to a fair vote.
We are respectfully asking Dr. Sue Cleveland to make the decision to return to "THE PIT."
RRPS has broken contracts before and can break this contract now and go "BACK TO THE PIT."
We need all persons that want the Graduation to be returned to "THE PIT" to let your voice be heard.
In an unprecedented administrative decision, input was NOT allowed, requested or regarded by everyone affected. Only certain voices were heard.
This last minute decision has affected all of the graduating Seniors for 2007, 2008, 2009 and 2010 along with their families and loved ones.
Due to this last minute decision over 10,000 people will not be able to attend the 2007 graduation.
We have heard all the reasons and explanations given by the administration and strongly feel they do not outweigh the fact that a fair process did not occur in the first place concerning this matter.
Please go online now. We have every right to be heard. "It’s not over till it’s over."
BACK TO THE PIT
FAMILY AND FRIENDS OF RIO RANCHO HIGH SCHOOL GRADUATES DISCUSSION GROUP
Please visit the web log, copy and paste this into your browser
http://rioranchogradsunite.blogspot.com/
You can also email: cmj2nc@aol.com if you have any problems posting comments on the blog, thank you.
April 3, 2007 6:49 AM
URGENT!!! said...
"REMEMBER THIS DECISION WILL AFFECT ALL GRADUATING SENIORS, THEIR FAMILIES AND LOVED ONES OVER THE NEXT 4 YEARS OR UNTIL THE NEW SCHOOL IS OPEN!"
YES, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010 WILL ALL BE AFFECTED!
THAT IS EASILY OVER 40,000 PEOPLE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ATTEND BUT WON'T BE ALLOWED!
BECAUSE EVERY YEAR WILL BE BIGGER THEN THE PREVIOUS YEAR!
Make sure you PASS this on!
Call Yvette 994-9648
Go to the School Board meeting
Monday April 9th at 5 PM
Ivan
April 3, 2007 7:02 AM
Anonymous said...
I AM GOING TO THE COURT HOUSE ON 4/4 TO FILE A CIVAL SUIT AGINST THE SCHOOL AND THE BOARD. I HAVE BEEN STRESSED OUT ENOUGH ABOUT ALL THAT IS GOING ON AND THE LOSS OF MONEY TIME AND EFFORT I HAVE PUT INTO MY CHILD. IT IS NOT ONLY MYSELF THAT IS STRESSED OUT BUT MY ENTIRE FAMILY IS ALSO HAVING A HARD TIME WE TRYING TO DECIDE WHO GETS TO GO I ONLY HAVE 1 TICKET TO GIVE OUT AND THAT IS TRULY UNFAIR. WE DONT NEED A LAWYER OR ATTORNYS FOR THIS BUT IT WOULD BE NICE. BUT TO FILE A CIVIL SUIT JUST GO TO THE COURT HOUSE
April 3, 2007 7:44 AM
Anonymous said...
IF YOU FEEL YOU HAVE BEEN TREATED UNFAIR ABOUT THE SO CALLED VOTE IN MOVING TO THE SANTA ANA CENTER I ENCOURAGE YOU TO FILE A CIVIL SUITE ALSO
April 3, 2007 7:46 AM
Civil Suit said...
Count me in on the civil suit! I’m sick and tired, literally sick over the newspaper’s attitude towards everyone that is questioning this discriminatory decision. Dr. Cleveland is hiding, the board is pointing the finger at the administration, the board president is rude, they did not let everyone provide input, no vote was allowed, 06 was rowdy and 07 gets the punishment, and like the other comment every class from here on out gets punished, plans were already made but Dr. Cleveland does not care! If VonAcken, VonDuncan, VonHerron, whatever the right name is, I don’t know, were booed by the seniors last year, they need to check out why?
Esther G.
April 3, 2007 8:08 AM
ditto Civil Suit said...
Count me in on the civil suit! I’m sick and tired, literally sick over the newspaper’s attitude towards everyone that is questioning this discriminatory decision. Dr. Cleveland is hiding, the board is pointing the finger at the administration, the board president is rude, they did not let everyone provide input, no vote was allowed, 06 was rowdy and 07 gets the punishment, and like the other comment every class from here on out gets punished, plans were already made but Dr. Cleveland does not care! If VonAcken, VonDuncan, VonHerron, whatever the right name is, I don’t know, were booed by the seniors last year, they need to check out why?
Mo
April 3, 2007 8:37 AM
civil suit or sue, sue cleveland said...
I’ve read different people questioning facts and credibility watch out what you write or say etc be nice or don’t be nice don’t do this don’t do that its over and so on and so forth well sports fans “they” have painted us into a corner they are not going to change they are not going to be fair they are not going to let anyone vote get your attorney or file a civil suit
Stan the Man
April 3, 2007 9:00 AM
Petition said...
Mario
April 3, 2007 1:11 PM
SCHOOL BOARD MEETING 4/9 said...
THE SCHOOL BOARD MEETING
Monday April 9 at 5:00 pm
ANYONE THAT CAN ATTEND PLEASE GO
HAVE FAMILY MEMBERS-FRIENDS-ANYONE
WHO WANTS TO SUPPORT THE MOVE TO THE PIT
PLEASE GO
CALL ME IF YOU KNOW FOR SURE THAT YOU ARE GOING TO ATTEND
SO WE CAN ALL GET TOGETHER BEFORE THAT DATE
MY NUMBER AGAIN IS 994-9648
OR EMAIL ME AT nanee_angel@yahoo.com
April 3, 2007 1:22 PM
Back to The Pit said...
Ellen
April 3, 2007 1:31 PM
To Sue Cleveland said...
We will have 6 family members coming from out of town. I'm not apologizing to ANYONE and don’t give damn what those clowns in the newspaper are saying. We are a BIG family and damn proud or it! As for me and my house we disagree with Dr. Cleveland. We request an inquiry to find out why the principal was booed with such fervor. We liked to see the graduation in Rio Rancho but only when the next school has seniors and not before.
Cruz
April 3, 2007 4:33 PM
To Sue Cleveland said...
We all agree and want to go back to The Pit.
What really bothers and concerns me is the open blatant disregard they have for everyone.
Dr. Sue Cleveland is being misled.
What is that actual breakdown culturally of this graduating class, 35 to 40% percent Hispanic?
How is it that they have no concern with all the stress and adversity they have caused to so many, to thousands?
Has the school staff had diversity and sensitivity training?
We cannot give up.
Their decision is discrimination!
It is very obvious politics, power and money are very much involved.
VonAcken was booed, after what I’ve seen it is not hard to see why.
Rose
April 3, 2007 5:34 PM
COURAGE said...
GOD grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change;
COURAGE to change the things I can;
and WISDOM to know the difference.
April 3, 2007 5:47 PM
THE PIT IS RANKED # 13 IN THE WORLD!!! said...
THE PIT IS RANKED # 13 IN THE WORLD!!!
Hey Dr. Cleveland, Sports Illustrated said:
SI's Top 20 Venues of the 20th Century
1 Yankee Stadium
2 Augusta National
3 Michie Stadium
4 Cameron Indoor Stadium
5 Bislett Stadium
6 Wrigley Field
7 Roland Garros
8 Lambeau Field
9 Fenway Park
10 Saratoga Race Course
11 Pebble Beach
12 Wembley Stadium
13 THE PIT
14 Boston Marathon Course
15 Camden Yards
16 Lamade Stadium
17 Daytona International Speedway
18 Notre Dame Stadium
19 St. Andrews
20 Rose Bowl
Others mentioned in no particular order,
BUT TAKE A LOOK AT THESE OTHER NAMES!:
Boston Garden
Taylor Field
Yost Ice Arena
Indianapolis Motor Speedway
Memorial Stadium
The Melbourne Cricket Ground
The Palestra
Husky Stadium
The Montreal Forum
Michigan Stadium
Madison Square Garden
Patterson Field
The Maracana Stadium
Lord's cricket ground
The San Siro
Wimbledon
Monte Carlo
LSU Tiger Stadium
Beaver Stadium
Allen Fieldhouse
Jordan-Hare Stadium
The Forum
Mile High Stadium
Tiger Stadium
April 3, 2007 6:49 PM
To Dr. Cleveland said...
Our family agrees with the Petition,
Enrique
April 3, 2007 8:06 PM
To Dr. Cleveland said...
In support of the Petition to return the graduation.
Joel
April 3, 2007 8:15 PM
To Dr. Cleveland said...
This decision is affecting over 40,000 that can’t attend over the next four years.
10,000 can’t go to the graduation this year.
Take it back.
Donnie
April 3, 2007 8:16 PM
To Dr. Cleveland said...
Go back to the Pit.
Lizzie
April 3, 2007 8:16 PM
To Dr. Cleveland said...
Foul -Dr. Cleveland!
Aaron
April 3, 2007 8:17 PM
To Dr. Cleveland said...
Hello NO we won’t go!!!
Kelly
April 3, 2007 8:17 PM
To Dr. Cleveland said...
Dr. Cleveland,
Read the comments and change this back.
Veronica
April 3, 2007 8:18 PM
To Dr. Cleveland said...
Dr. Cleveland,
For the sake of our children!
Kathleen
April 3, 2007 8:19 PM
To Dr. Cleveland said...
To RRPS,
This has discrimination written all over it.
Teddy
April 3, 2007 8:19 PM
To Dr. Cleveland said...
Why is this so important?
The decision - not only affects this years graduates, families and loved ones, it also will affect all graduates, families and loved ones for 2008, 2009 and 2010 and until the new school has graduating seniors!
Consider the numbers of people affected!
Carla
April 3, 2007 8:28 PM
To Dr. Cleveland said...
Let's GO
Tish
April 3, 2007 8:31 PM
For the sake of our children! said...
For the sake of our children!
Marcus
April 3, 2007 8:36 PM
For the sake of our children! said...
For the sake of our children!
Eloy
April 3, 2007 8:36 PM
For the sake of our children! said...
For the sake of our children!
Jordan
April 3, 2007 8:37 PM
For the sake of our children! said...
Dr. Cleveland,
For the sake of our children!
April 3, 2007 8:38 PM
Anonymous said...
Dr. Cleveland,
For the sake of our children!
April 3, 2007 8:38 PM
For the sake of our children! said...
Dr. Cleveland,
For the sake of our children!
Lisa
April 3, 2007 8:38 PM
For the sake of our children! said...
Dr. Cleveland,
For the sake of our children!
Mary
April 3, 2007 8:39 PM
I LIKE THIS COMMENT said...
My Graduation 2007
Class Ring - $400 (In Albuquerque)
Announcements/Cap & Gown - $200 (In Albuquerque)
Invitations - $150 (In Albuquerque)
Graduation pictures - $400 (In Albuquerque)
8 family members flying in - $3,600
Graduation party - $2,000
Having my entire family who encouraged me for the last 13 years celebrate with me at
THE PIT.....
PRICELESS!!!
April 3, 2007 8:54 PM
We are not enemies said...
~ We are not enemies,
But friends.
We must not be enemies.
Though passion may have strained
It must not break our bonds of affection.
The mystic chords of memory . . .
. . . Will yet swell
When again touched,
As surely they will be,
By the better Angels of our Nature ~
April 3, 2007 8:56 PM
Anonymous said...
back to the pit
April 4, 2007 6:27 AM
SCHOOL BOARD MEETING 4/9 said...
Call Yvette 994-9648
THE SCHOOL BOARD MEETING
Monday April 9 at 5:00 pm
ANYONE THAT CAN ATTEND PLEASE GO
HAVE FAMILY MEMBERS-FRIENDS-ANYONE
WHO WANTS TO SUPPORT THE MOVE TO THE PIT
PLEASE GO
CALL ME IF YOU KNOW FOR SURE THAT YOU ARE GOING TO ATTEND
SO WE CAN ALL GET TOGETHER BEFORE THAT DATE
MY NUMBER AGAIN IS 994-9648
OR EMAIL ME AT nanee_angel@yahoo.com
April 4, 2007 6:29 AM
Gidge said...
Thanks to all the students and parents who have been working so hard to fight this injustice! Special Thanks to Yvette! Graduation is a huge accomplishment and what better way to share such a special moment than to have your friends and family THERE with you. It's been done that way for generations and the Pit has provided that special opportunity for our graduates all these years. The school board somehow missed that very important point when making their decision. They should have done their homework BEFORE a decision like this was made. They need to back up and ask every graduate what they want, and if the majority want it at the Pit, they need to fix their mistake and move it back. They still have plenty of time. It needs to be resolved the right way, right away!
Gidget Anaya
April 4, 2007 8:05 AM
To Dr. Cleveland said...
Hello Ema Dreher (Dr. Clevelands's secretary),
We have been writing you since 3/14.
Please be respectfully advised this is easily our 7th request to Dr. Cleveland, we asked back on 3/14 to speak to Dr. Cleveland and for these questions to be answered. We already know what anyone below her is going to say, so we have already tried that avenue that was suggested. We consider this a stall tactic at this time. We don't need to hear from your other staff or anyone at the High School. We don't need the "lock-step" comment that is being given to other families and the media. We already know how disrespectful, the school board president has been to others. We want Dr. Cleveland please, thank you. We are very aware of other persons that have asked to speak with her on other matters, so we know that we can request to speak to her. We will be respectful but we are becoming agitated with being handed off to some one else, we want Dr. Cleveland, thank you.
Hello Ema Dreher (Dr. Clevelands's secretary),
Questions, please answer them individually, also, please note that there are multiple questions within the same number so don't miss those questions, thank you.
TIME SENSITIVE:
34. How soon can we speak directly to Dr. Cleveland on this matter, we would like to know her next available appointment, we are asking for an appointment, may I have more then one time frame as I will have to take time off for this?
1. Can a person(s) bring this matter to the board's attention again at the next or another board meeting and if not why not?
2. What is the process to ask for a special School Board meeting and if not why not?
3. As parents, what are our legal rights regarding the way this matter was handled?
4. How do we get a copy of our rights?
5. Can we speak to the school's attorney and if so whom would we contact?
6. It is our understanding this matter/decision was never tabled, voted on or decided by the School Board, who then by name(s) made this decision?
7. Per your response the School Board has not ruled or voted on the public comment on 3/12?
8. Regarding the contract, was there a contract with "The Pit"? "The Pit": Is in the senior agenda book, it was stated by Mr. VonAncken at senior meetings, it is on RRPS Website, it will STILL be on the announcements from Jostens? Prior to March 07 RRPS had a written or verbal contract with "The Pit", otherwise none of this would be accurate?
9. Dr. Cleveland or Mr. VonAncken is quoted as stating "many" persons wanted this changed from "The Pit" how many is "many"?
10. Does Dr. Cleveland and the board all realize that there are "many" more that want this at "The Pit"? That is a fact.
11. Dr. Cleveland in the media is quoted as saying that she wants the money spent in Rio Rancho, is she aware that Jostens in not in Rio Rancho and neither is Kim Jews? And a lot more then $8,000 is being spent there with Jostens and Kim Jews. Does she realize with all the accessories, pictures etc. that easily $500,000 give or take a few, will be spent in Albuquerque, just do the math per the cost involved? To say students don't have to go to these businesses is true, but fact is "many" went to them, we did.
12. Exactly how much money was quote "saved", because "The Pit" was $7,000 and the Star location is $6,300. Is Dr. Cleveland aware that each seat at the Star location costs more the each seat at "The Pit"? Is she aware we are paying more for less?
13. How many students are graduating, we have been told 770?
14. How many seats will be available we have been told 4,500?
15. Mr. VonAncken stated that he will have 1,000 extra tickets is that true?
16. Does that mean the location is being expanded to 5,500? We have been told that the max will be 4,500, then no one will have an extra 1,000 tickets?
17. Is Dr. Cleveland aware "The Pit" will hold 15,000 for this graduation and that is about how many came last year? They had to allow people to sit in the closed section so many people came.
18. Does Dr. Cleveland realize that this new location will only hold 4,500 persons and that 6 times 750 is 4,500, that would me over 10,000+ persons that would have normally come to this graduation, the proof is the previous year's numbers as well as the numbers that turned out for the APS graduations, so these figures/estimates are not manufactured? And does she know all this means tickets will be scarce? Does she realize no matter even when we all call Mr. VonAncken for tickets he will have a very limited amount or no tickets at all?
19. Does Dr. Cleveland realize that the process to pass out any extra tickets is unfair, regardless of what other districts have done I have had first hand experience with some of the other district's method, it is unfair? Does she realize even now, the persons with the biggest network of friends will be able to secure tickets at a better advantage then the persons that do not have a large network of friends? Seniors are supposed to secure their own tickets from other seniors, this what was told to Rod Green of KOAT, does she realize the stress, time and energy that is being spent on this? Shouldn't seniors be concentrating on other matters? Does she realize along with her staff that there are other discounted variables that come into play here, mostly leading to an unfair process? Persons with the right connections will have a better chance, "not what you know, its who you know", that happens every year in other districts? "The squeaky wheel gets the grease". Simply, in theory sounds ok, but the process is never fair.
18. Does Dr. Cleveland realize some persons are offering to sell their tickets as this has created a "scalping" situation?
19. For arguments sake, lets say 50 percent are not being allowed to come, Dr. Cleveland can't see how serious that is? That discounts a whole bunch of people that would have come?
20. So whether it is 50% or 75% not being allowed to celebrate and actually see the graduation, does Dr. Cleveland in her ability to be fair, see how much stress this is placing on families? Is she aware our state is among the highest in the country for dropouts and suicides!?
21. Is this the largest Rio Rancho graduating class ever?
22. Does Dr. Cleveland see how extremely unfair this late notice is to everyone involved especially because plans were already made, money spent?
23. Does Dr. Cleveland realize the Jostens announcements will still have "The Pit" on it and this will be tacky?
24. Does Dr. Cleveland realize that parents will have to put their own insert in the announcement in order to un-confuse the recipient? That is true there will be two inserts now, one from Jostens and one from the parents. If the parents choose not to add their own insert it will be that much more confusing.
25. Does Dr. Cleveland realize that this will now cause us to cancel that order and re-order with someone else, does she realize that this is time consuming and has interrupted lives, it has ours?
26. Who is paying for Jostens' insert? We heard Jostens is "eating" the cost? We were told by Mr. Duncan that he was paying for it "out of his own pocket"? Which story is the truth?
27. What about the real crux of this matter in which last years graduation got rowdy, does Dr. Cleveland understand this year’s class is being penalized?
28. The administration advised the media that "all of the concerns were taken into consideration", does Dr. Cleveland realize that the not ALL the concerns were considered before the decision was made and that if we really consider everything, I mean everything, this entire process was very unfair?
29. Does Dr. Cleveland realize not all parents know about this change yet? Fact, we never received a letter we happened to catch it on the news? This is far from over. Contract or no contract this is not over.
30. Why can't we have a vote with all parents, guardians and seniors now? We can do it now and put this all to rest, why not, is there too much politics involved regarding this?
31. Why didn't we have a vote and input from EVERYONE in the first place? Certain persons complained as you stated and the matter was set in stone without everyone's input, yes? Does she not see how unfair that is?
32. If you are going to hold onto the contract explanation that won't hold water, they know they are going to get your business down the road anyway? If not, what will be the cost if you break your contract with them? Hasn't the district broken other contracts for other matters before? Go back to "The Pit", could you charge $1.00 or .75 cents a body, look how much you would save? Not only would you payoff "The Pit" and security, you would have enough for next year too?
33. Each School Board member is sworn in by a judge and their oath of service maintains they must uphold the Constitution of the United States as well as the school's, isn't this a direct violation of "due process", fair process, or any equal and "good faith" standards that adhere to our Constitution and what they were founded on? I have personally heard that Dr. Cleveland is "fair" and we are absolutely counting on that in this matter.
34. How soon can we speak directly to Dr. Cleveland on this matter, we would like to know her next available appointment, we are asking for an appointment, may I have more then one time frame as I will have to take time off for this?
Thank you again
April 4, 2007 8:32 AM
DO YOUR HOMEWORK RRPS! said...
How many times have our seniors heard this in their lifetime,
"Do your homework"?
"They should have done their homework BEFORE a decision like this was made. They need to back up and ask every graduate what they want, and if the majority want it at the Pit, they need to fix their mistake and move it back. They still have plenty of time. It needs to be resolved the right way, right away!"
Ruben
April 4, 2007 8:36 AM
Gidget Anaya said...
Gidget Anaya,
What is your email address?
April 4, 2007 9:00 AM
Carmela Rael said...
My husband, son and I would like to add our signatures to the petition. My nephew is graduating and I would be really disappointed if we couldn't be there to see it in person, not on TV.
Carmela Rael
cbrael@msn.com
Patrick Rael
prrael@msn.com
Jered Cervantes
jered2011@msn.com
April 4, 2007 10:32 AM
TO DR. CLEVELAND said...
RRPS,
Your decision is discrimination! To the Pit!
Zeke
April 4, 2007 11:48 AM
Gidge said...
gidget_anaya@netzero.net
April 4, 2007 12:15 PM
YARAGON said...
WE WANT EVERYONE TO KNOW THAT THIS IS STILL GOING VERY STRONG AND DONT WANT YOU TO THINK THIS IS OVER IT SEEMS SOME OF YOU ARE GETTING DISCOURAGED AND THINK THAT THIS IS A DONE DEAL BUT IT IS NOT PLEASE MAKE SURE TO SIGN THE PETITION GOING AROUND SCHOOL AND IF YOU DO NOT WANT TO DO IT AT SCHOOL CALL ME AND I WILL MEET YOU SOME WHERE ELSE TO DO IT AGAIN REMEMBER THEY WANT YOU TO THINK IT IS DOING NO GOOD TO CONTINUE TO FIGHT BUT WE STILL HAVE A CHANCE AND REMEMBER THAT THE SCHOOL BOARD MEETING IS ON MONDAY AND WE NEED ALL THE SUPPORT WE CAN GET IT IS AT 5 PM ON MONDAY THE 9 TH AT THE RIO RANCHO DISTRICT OFFICE IF YOU NEED DIRECTIONS CALL ME MY NUMBER AGAIN IS 994-9648 OR EMAIL ME A nanee_angel@yahoo.com WE ARE ALSO LOOKING FOR ANYONE WHO WANTS TO HELP US THIS WEEKEND FOR MORE INFO CALL ONCE AGAIN WE WANT THE PIT!
April 4, 2007 12:31 PM
Anonymous said...
Why the resistance to moving graduation to the Pit to accommodate the students / parents wishes? The people paying into the school system have spoken, just like the people paying in to any $$$ reaped by the school board have spoken. Listen to your constituents!
April 4, 2007 2:22 PM
Constituents! said...
Great comment!
Reminds me:
"Is you is or is you ain't my 'constituents'!"
Marie
April 4, 2007 2:28 PM
Harley said...
Back to the Pit
April 4, 2007 5:18 PM
Seniors said...
No to to the Star Center
April 4, 2007 6:05 PM
Hate said...
Regarding bad press about anyone speaking out against this decision:
Hate speech is a controversial term for speech intended to degrade, intimidate, or incite violence or prejudicial action against a person or group of people based on their race, gender, age, ethnicity, nationality, religion, sexual orientation, gender identity, disability, language ability, moral or political views, socioeconomic class, occupation or appearance (such as height, weight, and hair color). The term covers written as well as oral communication and some forms of behaviors in a public setting. It is also sometimes called antilocution and is the first point on Allport's scale which measures prejudice in a society.
April 4, 2007 6:12 PM
To Dr. Cleveland said...
I'm very sorry about the problems from last year's graduation but this just proves you have something VERY WRONG going on at the high school. I’m NOT surprised that the administration was booed last year after you consider this decision you imposed.
Investigate why the principal was booed but don’t punish our Seniors for last year’s problem.
Rita
April 4, 2007 6:16 PM
“victims of political posturing” said...
The “Victims of political posturing” would like to return to THE PIT!
April 4, 2007 6:31 PM
26 or 2,600 or 26,000 said...
We want the graduation at the Pit!
April 4, 2007 8:28 PM
26 signed said...
Frank,
How many people signed the Declaration of Independence?
Jeff
April 4, 2007 8:57 PM
26 signed said...
Jeff,
I'm not really sure, I heard 26 that signed were Attorney's.
Frank
April 4, 2007 8:59 PM
26 signed said...
True,
26 were Attorney's
Sue
April 4, 2007 9:00 PM
26 or 2,600 or 26,000 or 260,000 or 260,000,000 said...
We want the graduation at the Pit!
Truly amazing the impact 26 signatures have had on the world!
Jim
April 4, 2007 9:06 PM
the price they paid said...
"The Fifty Six Men who Signed
the Declaration of Independence
Have you ever wondered what happened to the fifty-six men who signed the Declaration of Independence? Five signers were captured by the British as traitors, and tortured before they died. Twelve had their homes ransacked and burned. Two lost their sons serving in the Revolutionary Army; another had two sons captured. Nine of the fixity six fought and died from wounds or hardships of the Revolutionary War. They signed and they pledged their lives, their fortunes, and their sacred honor.
What kind of men were they?
Twenty-six were lawyers and jurists. Eleven were merchants, nine were farmers and large plantation owners; men of means, well educated. But they signed the Declaration of Independence knowing full well death would be the cost if captured. Carter Braxton of Virginia, a wealthy planter and trader, saw his ships swept from the seas by the British Navy. He sold his home and properties to pay his debts, and died in rags.
Thomas McKean was so hounded by the British that he was forced to move his family almost constantly. He served in the Congress without pay, and his family was kept in hiding. His possessions were taken from him, and poverty was his reward.
Vandals or soldiers looted the properties of Dillery, Hall, Clymer, Walton, Gwinnett, Heyward, Ruttledge, and Middleton.
At the battle of Yorktown, Thomas Nelson Jr. noted that the British General Cornwallis had taken over the Nelson home for his headquarters. He quietly urged General George Washington to open fire. The home was destroyed, and Nelson died bankrupt.
Francis Lewis had his home and properties destroyed. The enemy jailed his wife, and she died within a few months.
John Hart was driven from his wife's bedside as she was dying. Their thirteen children fled for their lives. His fields and his gristmill were laid to waste. For more than a year he lived in forests and caves, returning home to find his wife dead and his children vanished. A few weeks later he died from exhaustion and a broken heart.
Norris and Livingston suffered similar fates.
Such were the stories and sacrifices of the American Revolution. These were not wild-eyed, rabble-rousing ruffians. They were soft-spoken men of means and education.
They had security, but they valued liberty more. Standing tall, straight, and unwavering, they pledged: "For the support of this declaration, with firm reliance on the protection of divine providence, we mutually pledge to each other, our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor."
They gave you and me a free and independent America. The history books never told you a lot about what happened in the Revolutionary War. We didn't fight just the British. We were British subjects at that time and we fought our own government!
Some of us take these liberties so much for granted, but we shouldn't. So, take a few minutes this year while enjoying your 4th of July holiday and silently thank these patriots. It's not much to ask for the price they paid".
Merle
April 4, 2007 9:13 PM
Anonymous said...
With the 26 of you continually giving it your very best over and over again, I won’t be surprised that you've become part of something positive here in Rio Rancho, the city of vision, for the next 4 graduating classes.
We applaud your efforts and encourage RRPS to return to The PIT.
April 4, 2007 9:19 PM
LETS NOT BE PREJUDICE said...
DR. CLEVELAND,
THIS IS THE LARGEST GRADUATING CLASS IN RIO RANCHO HISTORY AND THE LARGEST CLASS IN THE STATE.
TO PLACE THE LARGEST CLASS IN A SMALLER VENUE IS NOT A WELL THOUGHT OUT PLAN AT THIS LATE NOTICE NO MATTER WHAT THE LOGIC.
IT CLEARLY DISCRIMINATES AGAINST PEOPLE WITH "LARGE FAMILIES" AND PROHIBITS ANYONE ELSE THEY KNOW FROM BEING ABLE TO COME.
MY DAY REALLY GOES BY, THERE IS NOT ENOUGH TIME IN THE DAY.
FOR ANYONE OUT OF THEIR BUSY SCHEDULE TO WANT TO GO TO A "HIGH SCHOOL GRADUATION" REALLY WANTS TO GO.
SORRY TO HEAR ABOUT 06.
LETS NOT BE PREJUDICE HERE.
IF SOMEONE WANTS TO GO THEN THAT IS UP TO THEM.
HIGHER EXTRA GUARDS.
CHANGE THIS BACK.
THANK YOU,
Jeremy
April 4, 2007 10:22 PM
Anonymous said...
I'm not going to any gambling dens and neither is anyone else in my family. As far as I'm concerned, they can mail my son's diploma to him.
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April 4, 2007 10:26 PM
Matches Malone said...
i'll see ya' all at 1
April 4, 2007 10:31 PM
Moses Malone said...
Fo'
Fo'
Fo'
Won't take no sh_ _t,
let's go back to The Pit!
April 4, 2007 10:34 PM
SCHOOL BOARD MEETING 4/9 said...
Call Yvette 994-9648
THE SCHOOL BOARD MEETING
Monday April 9 at 5:00 pm
ANYONE THAT CAN ATTEND PLEASE GO
HAVE FAMILY MEMBERS-FRIENDS-ANYONE
WHO WANTS TO SUPPORT THE MOVE TO THE PIT
PLEASE GO
CALL ME IF YOU KNOW FOR SURE THAT YOU ARE GOING TO ATTEND
SO WE CAN ALL GET TOGETHER BEFORE THAT DATE
MY NUMBER AGAIN IS 994-9648
OR EMAIL ME AT nanee_angel@yahoo.com
April 5, 2007 6:28 AM
The Observer said...
Dr. C;eveland,
I wonder how this will affect my graduation?
Marsha
Editor:
For weeks I had been telling friends about the then-upcoming Rio Rancho Pork & Brew, and how much I was looking forward to all that yummy BBQ.
So, even though parking was reported to be limited this year at the Star Center, off I drove to get my fill. Once on Paseo del Volcan, however, I saw 40 or so cars, backed up in both directions, waiting to turn onto the two-lane access road.
Sadly, I drove on past, returning home with my taste buds, not my tail, between my legs.
While poor access to the event center has been discussed at length, I still have trouble understanding how we could spend (more than) $40 million to build the place without having adequate access roads completed at the same time. Now that the Star Center has been open all these months, shouldn't those planning shortfalls have been corrected by now? How can we expect the center to be a success if we limit attendance due to access frustrations?
The city manager responsible for overseeing the planning process should be fired. Oh, wait. He already was.
April 5, 2007 6:38 AM
To Dr. Cleveland said...
We are
The “Victims of political posturing”
Roland
April 5, 2007 7:56 AM
To RRPS said...
Our family agrees with the petition
Mack
April 5, 2007 10:41 AM
English class said...
As learned in my English class:
Half a league, half a league,
Half a league onward,
All to district office
Rode the six hundred.
'Forward, the Light Brigade!
Rode the six hundred.
Their's not to make reply,
Their's not to reason why,
Their's but to do and why:
Into district office
Rode the six hundred.
The Observer to right of them,
The Ryan’s to left of them,
VonAncken in front of them
Into the jaws
Into the mouth of RRPS
Rode the six hundred.
Honour the charge they made!
Honour the Light Brigade,
Noble six hundred!
ALT
April 5, 2007 11:00 AM
Town Hall Meeting said...
For Immediate Release
April 5, 2007
RIO RANCHO, NM - Rio Rancho Mayor Kevin M. Jackson will hold his first town
hall meeting on Thursday, April 12, 2007 from 7:00PM to 8:00PM in the
Governing Body Chambers located in Rio Rancho City Hall.
Mayor Jackson will provide updates regarding the recently concluded New
Mexico State Legislative Session and information about the City's new
Central Business District. Mayor Jackson will also address questions that
are submitted by the audience.
"I encourage residents to attend this town hall meeting. Two-way
communication between citizens and government is critical. I believe this
town hall meeting will provide a unique opportunity to hear from residents
regarding issues relevant to our City as well as providing valuable updates
to the community," said Mayor Jackson.
The town hall meeting will be open to the public. For more information
residents may call 505-896-8727 or via e-mail at
feedbackform@ci.rio-rancho.nm.us
April 5, 2007 12:43 PM
NICE!!! said...
Nice!!!
NO way Jose!
RRPS break your contract and go back to The Pit!
Brian
April 5, 2007 3:34 PM
To Dr. Cleveland said...
Thank you to all those families keeping this graduation alive!
Gregory
April 5, 2007 6:26 PM
Dr. Cleveland said...
We are praying for this decision to be resolved.
The local newspaper has already taken sides and unfairly characterizes anyone that disagrees with the decision.
Anyone that disagrees with the decision does not need to be ridiculed for thinking differently. They should not be categorized as less American. They had nothing to do with last years crowd. They don’t need lessons on raising children from people who have a column in the newspaper. Or lessons in what a cruel “woild” we live in, or “buck up.”
The newspapers should have their top reporter in the face of district office asking hard questions, like how come everyone was not allowed to voice their opinions? Is there political pressure and by whom? Why did the principal get booed? Is this discrimination? Does this in fact affect our Hispanic families?
They actually told families 10 years old and younger that they can’t celebrate. Yes they recommend that young people can’t see an event with their own eyes even though it is actually positive reinforcement. Remember our state tops the charts in suicides and dropouts. They literally called fellow “Ranchoans, whiners, greedy and to get over it.”
Funny is funny but the April Fool’s deal was “underhanded and nasty” quoting the newspaper.
Belinda
April 5, 2007 7:43 PM
To Dr. Sue Cleveland said...
“Everyone has already heard the arguments for and against returning the graduation ceremony to The Pit so there’s no reason to spend a lot of time rehashing what’s already been said. The only issue left to be decided is what most of the parents want to do. We believe that most of the parents want the ceremony to be held in The Pit. So our only request is that you authorize a vote so that we can see what the parents want. If most of them want to hold the ceremony at the Star Center, then we should hold it at the Star Center; if most of the parents want to return to the Pit, then that’s what we should do. If you feel you can’t authorize a vote, then the only fair decision is to return the ceremony to The Pit given that the decision was made without sufficient public input.
Further, the decision to move the ceremony to the Star Center disproportionately inconveniences larger families, many of whom happen to be Hispanic.”
KW
April 5, 2007 8:39 PM
"The proof is in the pudding" said...
"The proof is in the pudding"
When you take everything all of the reasons pro and con, this was done wrong.
Go Back to The PIT
Matt
April 5, 2007 9:26 PM
The Pit said...
I want the graduation to return to the best location to have it, The Pit
Annie
April 5, 2007 9:31 PM
Great website said...
A website to get the gradution changed that is really wonderful!
Great thinking!
Phyl
April 5, 2007 9:38 PM
To the good Doctor said...
Read the comments Dr. Cleveland call off your mistake.
Jaz
April 5, 2007 9:51 PM
Ode to JOY! said...
Ode to JOY!
Let's Rock this function out!
Hailey
April 5, 2007 9:53 PM
Humpty said...
All the king's horses and all the king's men could not put Dr. Cleveland together again.
Pssssst Sue, they gave you's BAD advice, there ain't no WMD's "whining Mexican dudes"!
LET MY PEOPLE GOOOOO!
This is goin' to wreck your career..stop now!
Arturo
April 5, 2007 10:01 PM
SCHOOL BOARD MEETING 4/9 said...
SCHOOL BOARD MEETING 4/9
Call Yvette 994-9648
THE SCHOOL BOARD MEETING
Monday April 9 at 5:00 pm
ANYONE THAT CAN ATTEND PLEASE GO
HAVE FAMILY MEMBERS-FRIENDS-ANYONE
WHO WANTS TO SUPPORT THE MOVE TO THE PIT
PLEASE GO
CALL ME IF YOU KNOW FOR SURE THAT YOU ARE GOING TO ATTEND
SO WE CAN ALL GET TOGETHER BEFORE THAT DATE
MY NUMBER AGAIN IS 994-9648
OR EMAIL ME AT nanee_angel@yahoo.com
April 6, 2007 6:45 AM
All 2007 SENIORS!!! said...
Change our graduation Back
All 2007 SENIORS!!!
April 6, 2007 7:15 AM
Alex said...
Go Back to THE PIT
April 6, 2007 7:33 AM
John and Paul said...
And in the end the love you take.....
April 6, 2007 11:10 AM
John, Paul, George and Ringo said...
That is right!
Even the Beatles wrote "Get Back",
we need to take that advice and get back!
OH YEAH!!!!
April 6, 2007 11:16 AM
Shout OUT! said...
This is a little Shout Out to Doctor Cleveland.
Dr., you and all the teachers have taught us, and taught us well.
This is not at all fair, please do the right thing and go back to the Pit.
The Class of 2007 RULES!!
April 6, 2007 11:18 AM
He said She said said...
He said She said,
Dr. Cleveland, We are a family of four, and we are ok on tickets. I just got off the phone with another family who said some parents met with you today. What prompted me to write this now is, we are running out of time.
The actual seniors graduating and their families are the ones that should be allowed to vote.
We are getting shorter on time, I could not be there today due to work and I really applaud those that could get there.
I will talk with them directly tonight when I am off work. This has really hurt families. The newspaper is cruel.
I have now heard pretty much all the reasons and you have been told over and over how this has been dealt is wrong, unfair and discriminatory.
One side is trying to explain and justify and using their efforts to keep this in Rio Rancho.
The other side is being put down for speaking up.
And I agree with this email:
Surely we have legal rights?
Each School Board member is sworn in by a judge and their oath of service maintains they must uphold the Constitution of the United States as well as the school's, isn't this a direct violation of "due process", fair process, or any equal and "good faith" standards that adhere to our Constitution and what they were founded on? I have personally heard that Dr. Cleveland is "fair" and we are absolutely counting on that in this matter.
“Everyone has already heard the arguments for and against returning the graduation ceremony to The Pit so there’s no reason to spend a lot of time rehashing what’s already been said. The only issue left to be decided is what most of the parents want to do. We believe that most of the parents want the ceremony to be held in The Pit. So our only request is that you authorize a vote so that we can see what the parents want. If most of them want to hold the ceremony at the Star Center, then we should hold it at the Star Center; if most of the parents want to return to the Pit, then that’s what we should do. If you feel you can’t authorize a vote, then the only fair decision is to return the ceremony to The Pit given that the decision was made without sufficient public input.
Further, the decision to move the ceremony to the Star Center disproportionately inconveniences larger families, many of whom happen to be Hispanic.”
I understand this was given to you, well, do the right thing Dr. Cleveland.
Aggie.
April 6, 2007 11:58 AM
Anonymous said...
I agree with this email:
Surely we have legal rights?
Each School Board member is sworn in by a judge and their oath of service maintains they must uphold the Constitution of the United States as well as the school's, isn't this a direct violation of "due process", fair process, or any equal and "good faith" standards that adhere to our Constitution and what they were founded on? I have personally heard that Dr. Cleveland is "fair" and we are absolutely counting on that in this matter.
Alonzo
April 6, 2007 12:48 PM
Calvin said...
“Everyone has already heard the arguments for and against returning the graduation ceremony to The Pit so there’s no reason to spend a lot of time rehashing what’s already been said. The only issue left to be decided is what most of the parents want to do. We believe that most of the parents want the ceremony to be held in The Pit. So our only request is that you authorize a vote so that we can see what the parents want. If most of them want to hold the ceremony at the Star Center, then we should hold it at the Star Center; if most of the parents want to return to the Pit, then that’s what we should do. If you feel you can’t authorize a vote, then the only fair decision is to return the ceremony to The Pit given that the decision was made without sufficient public input.
Further, the decision to move the ceremony to the Star Center disproportionately inconveniences larger families, many of whom happen to be Hispanic.”
April 6, 2007 12:50 PM
To Dr. Sue Cleveland said...
“Everyone has already heard the arguments for and against returning the graduation ceremony to The Pit so there’s no reason to spend a lot of time rehashing what’s already been said. The only issue left to be decided is what most of the parents want to do. We believe that most of the parents want the ceremony to be held in The Pit. So our only request is that you authorize a vote so that we can see what the parents want. If most of them want to hold the ceremony at the Star Center, then we should hold it at the Star Center; if most of the parents want to return to the Pit, then that’s what we should do. If you feel you can’t authorize a vote, then the only fair decision is to return the ceremony to The Pit given that the decision was made without sufficient public input.
Further, the decision to move the ceremony to the Star Center disproportionately inconveniences larger families, many of whom happen to be Hispanic.”
Attention: Seniors, Parents, Guardians, Families, Relatives, Students and concerned persons
REMEMBER THIS DECISION WILL AFFECT ALL GRADUATING SENIORS, THEIR FAMILIES AND LOVED ONES NOW 2007 & OVER THE NEXT 4 YEARS OR UNTIL THE NEW SCHOOL IS OPEN!
GREAT NEWS!!
THE PIT IS STILL AVAILABLE ON MAY 19TH
AND THEY WILL NOT BE BOOKING THAT TIME AND DATE FOR ANYONE
IT IS STILL OPEN!!!
Please visit the web log, copy and paste this into your browser
http://rioranchogradsunite.blogspot.com/
You can also email: cmj2nc@aol.com if you have any problems posting comments on the blog, thank you.
We are a group of families that would like to have the Class of 2007 Graduation returned to "The PIT."
At minimum, let’s put this matter to a fair vote.
We are respectfully asking Dr. Sue Cleveland to make the decision to return to "The PIT."
RRPS has broken contracts before and can break this contract now and go "BACK TO THE PIT."
We need all persons that want the Graduation to be returned to "The PIT" to let your voice be heard.
In an unprecedented administrative decision, input was NOT allowed, requested or regarded by everyone affected. Only certain voices were heard.
This last minute decision has affected all of the graduating Seniors for 2007, 2008, 2009 and 2010 along with their families and loved ones.
Due to this last minute decision over 10,000 people will not be able to attend the 2007 graduation.
We have heard all the reasons and explanations given by the administration and strongly feel they do not outweigh the fact that a fair process did not occur in the first place concerning this matter.
Please go online now. We have every right to be heard. "It’s not over till it’s over."
BACK TO the Pit
FAMILY AND friends of Rio Rancho High School graduates DISCUSSION GROUP
Please visit the web log, copy and paste this into your browser
http://rioranchogradsunite.blogspot.com/
You can also email: cmj2nc@aol.com if you have any problems posting comments on the blog, thank you
April 6, 2007 1:26 PM
Marcos said...
“Everyone has already heard the arguments for and against returning the graduation ceremony to The Pit so there’s no reason to spend a lot of time rehashing what’s already been said. The only issue left to be decided is what most of the parents want to do. We believe that most of the parents want the ceremony to be held in The Pit. So our only request is that you authorize a vote so that we can see what the parents want. If most of them want to hold the ceremony at the Star Center, then we should hold it at the Star Center; if most of the parents want to return to the Pit, then that’s what we should do. If you feel you can’t authorize a vote, then the only fair decision is to return the ceremony to The Pit given that the decision was made without sufficient public input.
Further, the decision to move the ceremony to the Star Center disproportionately inconveniences larger families, many of whom happen to be Hispanic.”
April 6, 2007 1:38 PM
Zach said...
“Everyone has already heard the arguments for and against returning the graduation ceremony to The Pit so there’s no reason to spend a lot of time rehashing what’s already been said. The only issue left to be decided is what most of the parents want to do. We believe that most of the parents want the ceremony to be held in The Pit. So our only request is that you authorize a vote so that we can see what the parents want. If most of them want to hold the ceremony at the Star Center, then we should hold it at the Star Center; if most of the parents want to return to the Pit, then that’s what we should do. If you feel you can’t authorize a vote, then the only fair decision is to return the ceremony to The Pit given that the decision was made without sufficient public input.
Further, the decision to move the ceremony to the Star Center disproportionately inconveniences larger families, many of whom happen to be Hispanic.”
April 6, 2007 1:39 PM
Chicano Family said...
“Everyone has already heard the arguments for and against returning the graduation ceremony to The Pit so there’s no reason to spend a lot of time rehashing what’s already been said. The only issue left to be decided is what most of the parents want to do. We believe that most of the parents want the ceremony to be held in The Pit. So our only request is that you authorize a vote so that we can see what the parents want. If most of them want to hold the ceremony at the Star Center, then we should hold it at the Star Center; if most of the parents want to return to the Pit, then that’s what we should do. If you feel you can’t authorize a vote, then the only fair decision is to return the ceremony to The Pit given that the decision was made without sufficient public input.
Further, the decision to move the ceremony to the Star Center disproportionately inconveniences larger families, many of whom happen to be Hispanic.”
April 6, 2007 1:39 PM
Conselo said...
“Everyone has already heard the arguments for and against returning the graduation ceremony to The Pit so there’s no reason to spend a lot of time rehashing what’s already been said. The only issue left to be decided is what most of the parents want to do. We believe that most of the parents want the ceremony to be held in The Pit. So our only request is that you authorize a vote so that we can see what the parents want. If most of them want to hold the ceremony at the Star Center, then we should hold it at the Star Center; if most of the parents want to return to the Pit, then that’s what we should do. If you feel you can’t authorize a vote, then the only fair decision is to return the ceremony to The Pit given that the decision was made without sufficient public input.
Further, the decision to move the ceremony to the Star Center disproportionately inconveniences larger families, many of whom happen to be Hispanic.”
April 6, 2007 1:40 PM
Maggie said...
“Everyone has already heard the arguments for and against returning the graduation ceremony to The Pit so there’s no reason to spend a lot of time rehashing what’s already been said. The only issue left to be decided is what most of the parents want to do. We believe that most of the parents want the ceremony to be held in The Pit. So our only request is that you authorize a vote so that we can see what the parents want. If most of them want to hold the ceremony at the Star Center, then we should hold it at the Star Center; if most of the parents want to return to the Pit, then that’s what we should do. If you feel you can’t authorize a vote, then the only fair decision is to return the ceremony to The Pit given that the decision was made without sufficient public input.
Further, the decision to move the ceremony to the Star Center disproportionately inconveniences larger families, many of whom happen to be Hispanic.”
April 6, 2007 1:40 PM
Jorge said...
“Everyone has already heard the arguments for and against returning the graduation ceremony to The Pit so there’s no reason to spend a lot of time rehashing what’s already been said. The only issue left to be decided is what most of the parents want to do. We believe that most of the parents want the ceremony to be held in The Pit. So our only request is that you authorize a vote so that we can see what the parents want. If most of them want to hold the ceremony at the Star Center, then we should hold it at the Star Center; if most of the parents want to return to the Pit, then that’s what we should do. If you feel you can’t authorize a vote, then the only fair decision is to return the ceremony to The Pit given that the decision was made without sufficient public input.
Further, the decision to move the ceremony to the Star Center disproportionately inconveniences larger families, many of whom happen to be Hispanic.”
April 6, 2007 1:40 PM
C. C said...
I don't know what to write but I sure like this:
“Everyone has already heard the arguments for and against returning the graduation ceremony to The Pit so there’s no reason to spend a lot of time rehashing what’s already been said. The only issue left to be decided is what most of the parents want to do. We believe that most of the parents want the ceremony to be held in The Pit. So our only request is that you authorize a vote so that we can see what the parents want. If most of them want to hold the ceremony at the Star Center, then we should hold it at the Star Center; if most of the parents want to return to the Pit, then that’s what we should do. If you feel you can’t authorize a vote, then the only fair decision is to return the ceremony to The Pit given that the decision was made without sufficient public input.
Further, the decision to move the ceremony to the Star Center disproportionately inconveniences larger families, many of whom happen to be Hispanic.”
April 6, 2007 1:41 PM
Augustine said...
“Everyone has already heard the arguments for and against returning the graduation ceremony to The Pit so there’s no reason to spend a lot of time rehashing what’s already been said. The only issue left to be decided is what most of the parents want to do. We believe that most of the parents want the ceremony to be held in The Pit. So our only request is that you authorize a vote so that we can see what the parents want. If most of them want to hold the ceremony at the Star Center, then we should hold it at the Star Center; if most of the parents want to return to the Pit, then that’s what we should do. If you feel you can’t authorize a vote, then the only fair decision is to return the ceremony to The Pit given that the decision was made without sufficient public input.
Further, the decision to move the ceremony to the Star Center disproportionately inconveniences larger families, many of whom happen to be Hispanic.”
April 6, 2007 1:41 PM
Gonzalo said...
“Everyone has already heard the arguments for and against returning the graduation ceremony to The Pit so there’s no reason to spend a lot of time rehashing what’s already been said. The only issue left to be decided is what most of the parents want to do. We believe that most of the parents want the ceremony to be held in The Pit. So our only request is that you authorize a vote so that we can see what the parents want. If most of them want to hold the ceremony at the Star Center, then we should hold it at the Star Center; if most of the parents want to return to the Pit, then that’s what we should do. If you feel you can’t authorize a vote, then the only fair decision is to return the ceremony to The Pit given that the decision was made without sufficient public input.
Further, the decision to move the ceremony to the Star Center disproportionately inconveniences larger families, many of whom happen to be Hispanic.”
April 6, 2007 1:42 PM
Araceli said...
“Everyone has already heard the arguments for and against returning the graduation ceremony to The Pit so there’s no reason to spend a lot of time rehashing what’s already been said. The only issue left to be decided is what most of the parents want to do. We believe that most of the parents want the ceremony to be held in The Pit. So our only request is that you authorize a vote so that we can see what the parents want. If most of them want to hold the ceremony at the Star Center, then we should hold it at the Star Center; if most of the parents want to return to the Pit, then that’s what we should do. If you feel you can’t authorize a vote, then the only fair decision is to return the ceremony to The Pit given that the decision was made without sufficient public input.
Further, the decision to move the ceremony to the Star Center disproportionately inconveniences larger families, many of whom happen to be Hispanic.”
April 6, 2007 1:42 PM
Jaime said...
“Everyone has already heard the arguments for and against returning the graduation ceremony to The Pit so there’s no reason to spend a lot of time rehashing what’s already been said. The only issue left to be decided is what most of the parents want to do. We believe that most of the parents want the ceremony to be held in The Pit. So our only request is that you authorize a vote so that we can see what the parents want. If most of them want to hold the ceremony at the Star Center, then we should hold it at the Star Center; if most of the parents want to return to the Pit, then that’s what we should do. If you feel you can’t authorize a vote, then the only fair decision is to return the ceremony to The Pit given that the decision was made without sufficient public input.
Further, the decision to move the ceremony to the Star Center disproportionately inconveniences larger families, many of whom happen to be Hispanic.”
April 6, 2007 1:42 PM
Octavio said...
“Everyone has already heard the arguments for and against returning the graduation ceremony to The Pit so there’s no reason to spend a lot of time rehashing what’s already been said. The only issue left to be decided is what most of the parents want to do. We believe that most of the parents want the ceremony to be held in The Pit. So our only request is that you authorize a vote so that we can see what the parents want. If most of them want to hold the ceremony at the Star Center, then we should hold it at the Star Center; if most of the parents want to return to the Pit, then that’s what we should do. If you feel you can’t authorize a vote, then the only fair decision is to return the ceremony to The Pit given that the decision was made without sufficient public input.
Further, the decision to move the ceremony to the Star Center disproportionately inconveniences larger families, many of whom happen to be Hispanic.”
April 6, 2007 1:42 PM
Miguel said...
“Everyone has already heard the arguments for and against returning the graduation ceremony to The Pit so there’s no reason to spend a lot of time rehashing what’s already been said. The only issue left to be decided is what most of the parents want to do. We believe that most of the parents want the ceremony to be held in The Pit. So our only request is that you authorize a vote so that we can see what the parents want. If most of them want to hold the ceremony at the Star Center, then we should hold it at the Star Center; if most of the parents want to return to the Pit, then that’s what we should do. If you feel you can’t authorize a vote, then the only fair decision is to return the ceremony to The Pit given that the decision was made without sufficient public input.
Further, the decision to move the ceremony to the Star Center disproportionately inconveniences larger families, many of whom happen to be Hispanic.”
April 6, 2007 1:43 PM
Melinda said...
“Everyone has already heard the arguments for and against returning the graduation ceremony to The Pit so there’s no reason to spend a lot of time rehashing what’s already been said. The only issue left to be decided is what most of the parents want to do. We believe that most of the parents want the ceremony to be held in The Pit. So our only request is that you authorize a vote so that we can see what the parents want. If most of them want to hold the ceremony at the Star Center, then we should hold it at the Star Center; if most of the parents want to return to the Pit, then that’s what we should do. If you feel you can’t authorize a vote, then the only fair decision is to return the ceremony to The Pit given that the decision was made without sufficient public input.
Further, the decision to move the ceremony to the Star Center disproportionately inconveniences larger families, many of whom happen to be Hispanic.”
April 6, 2007 1:43 PM
Juan said...
“Everyone has already heard the arguments for and against returning the graduation ceremony to The Pit so there’s no reason to spend a lot of time rehashing what’s already been said. The only issue left to be decided is what most of the parents want to do. We believe that most of the parents want the ceremony to be held in The Pit. So our only request is that you authorize a vote so that we can see what the parents want. If most of them want to hold the ceremony at the Star Center, then we should hold it at the Star Center; if most of the parents want to return to the Pit, then that’s what we should do. If you feel you can’t authorize a vote, then the only fair decision is to return the ceremony to The Pit given that the decision was made without sufficient public input.
Further, the decision to move the ceremony to the Star Center disproportionately inconveniences larger families, many of whom happen to be Hispanic.”
April 6, 2007 1:43 PM
Ernesto said...
“Everyone has already heard the arguments for and against returning the graduation ceremony to The Pit so there’s no reason to spend a lot of time rehashing what’s already been said. The only issue left to be decided is what most of the parents want to do. We believe that most of the parents want the ceremony to be held in The Pit. So our only request is that you authorize a vote so that we can see what the parents want. If most of them want to hold the ceremony at the Star Center, then we should hold it at the Star Center; if most of the parents want to return to the Pit, then that’s what we should do. If you feel you can’t authorize a vote, then the only fair decision is to return the ceremony to The Pit given that the decision was made without sufficient public input.
Further, the decision to move the ceremony to the Star Center disproportionately inconveniences larger families, many of whom happen to be Hispanic.”
April 6, 2007 1:44 PM
Nestor said...
“Everyone has already heard the arguments for and against returning the graduation ceremony to The Pit so there’s no reason to spend a lot of time rehashing what’s already been said. The only issue left to be decided is what most of the parents want to do. We believe that most of the parents want the ceremony to be held in The Pit. So our only request is that you authorize a vote so that we can see what the parents want. If most of them want to hold the ceremony at the Star Center, then we should hold it at the Star Center; if most of the parents want to return to the Pit, then that’s what we should do. If you feel you can’t authorize a vote, then the only fair decision is to return the ceremony to The Pit given that the decision was made without sufficient public input.
Further, the decision to move the ceremony to the Star Center disproportionately inconveniences larger families, many of whom happen to be Hispanic.”
April 6, 2007 1:44 PM
Nan said...
“Everyone has already heard the arguments for and against returning the graduation ceremony to The Pit so there’s no reason to spend a lot of time rehashing what’s already been said. The only issue left to be decided is what most of the parents want to do. We believe that most of the parents want the ceremony to be held in The Pit. So our only request is that you authorize a vote so that we can see what the parents want. If most of them want to hold the ceremony at the Star Center, then we should hold it at the Star Center; if most of the parents want to return to the Pit, then that’s what we should do. If you feel you can’t authorize a vote, then the only fair decision is to return the ceremony to The Pit given that the decision was made without sufficient public input.
Further, the decision to move the ceremony to the Star Center disproportionately inconveniences larger families, many of whom happen to be Hispanic.”
April 6, 2007 1:44 PM
Jorge said...
“Everyone has already heard the arguments for and against returning the graduation ceremony to The Pit so there’s no reason to spend a lot of time rehashing what’s already been said. The only issue left to be decided is what most of the parents want to do. We believe that most of the parents want the ceremony to be held in The Pit. So our only request is that you authorize a vote so that we can see what the parents want. If most of them want to hold the ceremony at the Star Center, then we should hold it at the Star Center; if most of the parents want to return to the Pit, then that’s what we should do. If you feel you can’t authorize a vote, then the only fair decision is to return the ceremony to The Pit given that the decision was made without sufficient public input.
Further, the decision to move the ceremony to the Star Center disproportionately inconveniences larger families, many of whom happen to be Hispanic.”
April 6, 2007 1:45 PM
Gary said...
“Everyone has already heard the arguments for and against returning the graduation ceremony to The Pit so there’s no reason to spend a lot of time rehashing what’s already been said. The only issue left to be decided is what most of the parents want to do. We believe that most of the parents want the ceremony to be held in The Pit. So our only request is that you authorize a vote so that we can see what the parents want. If most of them want to hold the ceremony at the Star Center, then we should hold it at the Star Center; if most of the parents want to return to the Pit, then that’s what we should do. If you feel you can’t authorize a vote, then the only fair decision is to return the ceremony to The Pit given that the decision was made without sufficient public input.
Further, the decision to move the ceremony to the Star Center disproportionately inconveniences larger families, many of whom happen to be Hispanic.”
April 6, 2007 1:45 PM
Albert said...
“Everyone has already heard the arguments for and against returning the graduation ceremony to The Pit so there’s no reason to spend a lot of time rehashing what’s already been said. The only issue left to be decided is what most of the parents want to do. We believe that most of the parents want the ceremony to be held in The Pit. So our only request is that you authorize a vote so that we can see what the parents want. If most of them want to hold the ceremony at the Star Center, then we should hold it at the Star Center; if most of the parents want to return to the Pit, then that’s what we should do. If you feel you can’t authorize a vote, then the only fair decision is to return the ceremony to The Pit given that the decision was made without sufficient public input.
Further, the decision to move the ceremony to the Star Center disproportionately inconveniences larger families, many of whom happen to be Hispanic.”
April 6, 2007 1:46 PM
Fig said...
“Everyone has already heard the arguments for and against returning the graduation ceremony to The Pit so there’s no reason to spend a lot of time rehashing what’s already been said. The only issue left to be decided is what most of the parents want to do. We believe that most of the parents want the ceremony to be held in The Pit. So our only request is that you authorize a vote so that we can see what the parents want. If most of them want to hold the ceremony at the Star Center, then we should hold it at the Star Center; if most of the parents want to return to the Pit, then that’s what we should do. If you feel you can’t authorize a vote, then the only fair decision is to return the ceremony to The Pit given that the decision was made without sufficient public input.
Further, the decision to move the ceremony to the Star Center disproportionately inconveniences larger families, many of whom happen to be Hispanic.”
April 6, 2007 1:46 PM
BEE FAIR said...
“Everyone has already heard the arguments for and against returning the graduation ceremony to The Pit so there’s no reason to spend a lot of time rehashing what’s already been said. The only issue left to be decided is what most of the parents want to do. We believe that most of the parents want the ceremony to be held in The Pit. So our only request is that you authorize a vote so that we can see what the parents want. If most of them want to hold the ceremony at the Star Center, then we should hold it at the Star Center; if most of the parents want to return to the Pit, then that’s what we should do. If you feel you can’t authorize a vote, then the only fair decision is to return the ceremony to The Pit given that the decision was made without sufficient public input.
Further, the decision to move the ceremony to the Star Center disproportionately inconveniences larger families, many of whom happen to be Hispanic.”
April 6, 2007 1:52 PM
Vote said...
“Everyone has already heard the arguments for and against returning the graduation ceremony to The Pit so there’s no reason to spend a lot of time rehashing what’s already been said. The only issue left to be decided is what most of the parents want to do. We believe that most of the parents want the ceremony to be held in The Pit. So our only request is that you authorize a vote so that we can see what the parents want. If most of them want to hold the ceremony at the Star Center, then we should hold it at the Star Center; if most of the parents want to return to the Pit, then that’s what we should do. If you feel you can’t authorize a vote, then the only fair decision is to return the ceremony to The Pit given that the decision was made without sufficient public input.
Further, the decision to move the ceremony to the Star Center disproportionately inconveniences larger families, many of whom happen to be Hispanic.”
April 6, 2007 1:53 PM
Otis said...
“Everyone has already heard the arguments for and against returning the graduation ceremony to The Pit so there’s no reason to spend a lot of time rehashing what’s already been said. The only issue left to be decided is what most of the parents want to do. We believe that most of the parents want the ceremony to be held in The Pit. So our only request is that you authorize a vote so that we can see what the parents want. If most of them want to hold the ceremony at the Star Center, then we should hold it at the Star Center; if most of the parents want to return to the Pit, then that’s what we should do. If you feel you can’t authorize a vote, then the only fair decision is to return the ceremony to The Pit given that the decision was made without sufficient public input.
Further, the decision to move the ceremony to the Star Center disproportionately inconveniences larger families, many of whom happen to be Hispanic.”
April 6, 2007 1:59 PM
Meliton said...
“Everyone has already heard the arguments for and against returning the graduation ceremony to The Pit so there’s no reason to spend a lot of time rehashing what’s already been said. The only issue left to be decided is what most of the parents want to do. We believe that most of the parents want the ceremony to be held in The Pit. So our only request is that you authorize a vote so that we can see what the parents want. If most of them want to hold the ceremony at the Star Center, then we should hold it at the Star Center; if most of the parents want to return to the Pit, then that’s what we should do. If you feel you can’t authorize a vote, then the only fair decision is to return the ceremony to The Pit given that the decision was made without sufficient public input.
Further, the decision to move the ceremony to the Star Center disproportionately inconveniences larger families, many of whom happen to be Hispanic.”
April 6, 2007 1:59 PM
Conrad said...
“Everyone has already heard the arguments for and against returning the graduation ceremony to The Pit so there’s no reason to spend a lot of time rehashing what’s already been said. The only issue left to be decided is what most of the parents want to do. We believe that most of the parents want the ceremony to be held in The Pit. So our only request is that you authorize a vote so that we can see what the parents want. If most of them want to hold the ceremony at the Star Center, then we should hold it at the Star Center; if most of the parents want to return to the Pit, then that’s what we should do. If you feel you can’t authorize a vote, then the only fair decision is to return the ceremony to The Pit given that the decision was made without sufficient public input.
Further, the decision to move the ceremony to the Star Center disproportionately inconveniences larger families, many of whom happen to be Hispanic.”
April 6, 2007 1:59 PM
comment said...
“Everyone has already heard the arguments for and against returning the graduation ceremony to The Pit so there’s no reason to spend a lot of time rehashing what’s already been said. The only issue left to be decided is what most of the parents want to do. We believe that most of the parents want the ceremony to be held in The Pit. So our only request is that you authorize a vote so that we can see what the parents want. If most of them want to hold the ceremony at the Star Center, then we should hold it at the Star Center; if most of the parents want to return to the Pit, then that’s what we should do. If you feel you can’t authorize a vote, then the only fair decision is to return the ceremony to The Pit given that the decision was made without sufficient public input.
Further, the decision to move the ceremony to the Star Center disproportionately inconveniences larger families, many of whom happen to be Hispanic.”
April 6, 2007 2:00 PM
Si said...
“Everyone has already heard the arguments for and against returning the graduation ceremony to The Pit so there’s no reason to spend a lot of time rehashing what’s already been said. The only issue left to be decided is what most of the parents want to do. We believe that most of the parents want the ceremony to be held in The Pit. So our only request is that you authorize a vote so that we can see what the parents want. If most of them want to hold the ceremony at the Star Center, then we should hold it at the Star Center; if most of the parents want to return to the Pit, then that’s what we should do. If you feel you can’t authorize a vote, then the only fair decision is to return the ceremony to The Pit given that the decision was made without sufficient public input.
Further, the decision to move the ceremony to the Star Center disproportionately inconveniences larger families, many of whom happen to be Hispanic.”
April 6, 2007 2:00 PM
Gutay said...
“Everyone has already heard the arguments for and against returning the graduation ceremony to The Pit so there’s no reason to spend a lot of time rehashing what’s already been said. The only issue left to be decided is what most of the parents want to do. We believe that most of the parents want the ceremony to be held in The Pit. So our only request is that you authorize a vote so that we can see what the parents want. If most of them want to hold the ceremony at the Star Center, then we should hold it at the Star Center; if most of the parents want to return to the Pit, then that’s what we should do. If you feel you can’t authorize a vote, then the only fair decision is to return the ceremony to The Pit given that the decision was made without sufficient public input.
Further, the decision to move the ceremony to the Star Center disproportionately inconveniences larger families, many of whom happen to be Hispanic.”
April 6, 2007 2:00 PM
Tire Bite said...
“Everyone has already heard the arguments for and against returning the graduation ceremony to The Pit so there’s no reason to spend a lot of time rehashing what’s already been said. The only issue left to be decided is what most of the parents want to do. We believe that most of the parents want the ceremony to be held in The Pit. So our only request is that you authorize a vote so that we can see what the parents want. If most of them want to hold the ceremony at the Star Center, then we should hold it at the Star Center; if most of the parents want to return to the Pit, then that’s what we should do. If you feel you can’t authorize a vote, then the only fair decision is to return the ceremony to The Pit given that the decision was made without sufficient public input.
Further, the decision to move the ceremony to the Star Center disproportionately inconveniences larger families, many of whom happen to be Hispanic.”
April 6, 2007 2:00 PM
Cisco said...
“Everyone has already heard the arguments for and against returning the graduation ceremony to The Pit so there’s no reason to spend a lot of time rehashing what’s already been said. The only issue left to be decided is what most of the parents want to do. We believe that most of the parents want the ceremony to be held in The Pit. So our only request is that you authorize a vote so that we can see what the parents want. If most of them want to hold the ceremony at the Star Center, then we should hold it at the Star Center; if most of the parents want to return to the Pit, then that’s what we should do. If you feel you can’t authorize a vote, then the only fair decision is to return the ceremony to The Pit given that the decision was made without sufficient public input.
Further, the decision to move the ceremony to the Star Center disproportionately inconveniences larger families, many of whom happen to be Hispanic.”
April 6, 2007 2:01 PM
Cha Chi said...
“Everyone has already heard the arguments for and against returning the graduation ceremony to The Pit so there’s no reason to spend a lot of time rehashing what’s already been said. The only issue left to be decided is what most of the parents want to do. We believe that most of the parents want the ceremony to be held in The Pit. So our only request is that you authorize a vote so that we can see what the parents want. If most of them want to hold the ceremony at the Star Center, then we should hold it at the Star Center; if most of the parents want to return to the Pit, then that’s what we should do. If you feel you can’t authorize a vote, then the only fair decision is to return the ceremony to The Pit given that the decision was made without sufficient public input.
Further, the decision to move the ceremony to the Star Center disproportionately inconveniences larger families, many of whom happen to be Hispanic.”
April 6, 2007 2:01 PM
Norte said...
“Everyone has already heard the arguments for and against returning the graduation ceremony to The Pit so there’s no reason to spend a lot of time rehashing what’s already been said. The only issue left to be decided is what most of the parents want to do. We believe that most of the parents want the ceremony to be held in The Pit. So our only request is that you authorize a vote so that we can see what the parents want. If most of them want to hold the ceremony at the Star Center, then we should hold it at the Star Center; if most of the parents want to return to the Pit, then that’s what we should do. If you feel you can’t authorize a vote, then the only fair decision is to return the ceremony to The Pit given that the decision was made without sufficient public input.
Further, the decision to move the ceremony to the Star Center disproportionately inconveniences larger families, many of whom happen to be Hispanic.”
April 6, 2007 2:02 PM
Pablo said...
“Everyone has already heard the arguments for and against returning the graduation ceremony to The Pit so there’s no reason to spend a lot of time rehashing what’s already been said. The only issue left to be decided is what most of the parents want to do. We believe that most of the parents want the ceremony to be held in The Pit. So our only request is that you authorize a vote so that we can see what the parents want. If most of them want to hold the ceremony at the Star Center, then we should hold it at the Star Center; if most of the parents want to return to the Pit, then that’s what we should do. If you feel you can’t authorize a vote, then the only fair decision is to return the ceremony to The Pit given that the decision was made without sufficient public input.
Further, the decision to move the ceremony to the Star Center disproportionately inconveniences larger families, many of whom happen to be Hispanic.”
April 6, 2007 2:02 PM
Arguello said...
“Everyone has already heard the arguments for and against returning the graduation ceremony to The Pit so there’s no reason to spend a lot of time rehashing what’s already been said. The only issue left to be decided is what most of the parents want to do. We believe that most of the parents want the ceremony to be held in The Pit. So our only request is that you authorize a vote so that we can see what the parents want. If most of them want to hold the ceremony at the Star Center, then we should hold it at the Star Center; if most of the parents want to return to the Pit, then that’s what we should do. If you feel you can’t authorize a vote, then the only fair decision is to return the ceremony to The Pit given that the decision was made without sufficient public input.
Further, the decision to move the ceremony to the Star Center disproportionately inconveniences larger families, many of whom happen to be Hispanic.”
April 6, 2007 2:02 PM
Mama said...
“Everyone has already heard the arguments for and against returning the graduation ceremony to The Pit so there’s no reason to spend a lot of time rehashing what’s already been said. The only issue left to be decided is what most of the parents want to do. We believe that most of the parents want the ceremony to be held in The Pit. So our only request is that you authorize a vote so that we can see what the parents want. If most of them want to hold the ceremony at the Star Center, then we should hold it at the Star Center; if most of the parents want to return to the Pit, then that’s what we should do. If you feel you can’t authorize a vote, then the only fair decision is to return the ceremony to The Pit given that the decision was made without sufficient public input.
Further, the decision to move the ceremony to the Star Center disproportionately inconveniences larger families, many of whom happen to be Hispanic.”
April 6, 2007 2:03 PM
Che said...
“Everyone has already heard the arguments for and against returning the graduation ceremony to The Pit so there’s no reason to spend a lot of time rehashing what’s already been said. The only issue left to be decided is what most of the parents want to do. We believe that most of the parents want the ceremony to be held in The Pit. So our only request is that you authorize a vote so that we can see what the parents want. If most of them want to hold the ceremony at the Star Center, then we should hold it at the Star Center; if most of the parents want to return to the Pit, then that’s what we should do. If you feel you can’t authorize a vote, then the only fair decision is to return the ceremony to The Pit given that the decision was made without sufficient public input.
Further, the decision to move the ceremony to the Star Center disproportionately inconveniences larger families, many of whom happen to be Hispanic.”
April 6, 2007 2:03 PM
Chavez said...
“Everyone has already heard the arguments for and against returning the graduation ceremony to The Pit so there’s no reason to spend a lot of time rehashing what’s already been said. The only issue left to be decided is what most of the parents want to do. We believe that most of the parents want the ceremony to be held in The Pit. So our only request is that you authorize a vote so that we can see what the parents want. If most of them want to hold the ceremony at the Star Center, then we should hold it at the Star Center; if most of the parents want to return to the Pit, then that’s what we should do. If you feel you can’t authorize a vote, then the only fair decision is to return the ceremony to The Pit given that the decision was made without sufficient public input.
Further, the decision to move the ceremony to the Star Center disproportionately inconveniences larger families, many of whom happen to be Hispanic.”
April 6, 2007 2:04 PM
Enjo said...
“Everyone has already heard the arguments for and against returning the graduation ceremony to The Pit so there’s no reason to spend a lot of time rehashing what’s already been said. The only issue left to be decided is what most of the parents want to do. We believe that most of the parents want the ceremony to be held in The Pit. So our only request is that you authorize a vote so that we can see what the parents want. If most of them want to hold the ceremony at the Star Center, then we should hold it at the Star Center; if most of the parents want to return to the Pit, then that’s what we should do. If you feel you can’t authorize a vote, then the only fair decision is to return the ceremony to The Pit given that the decision was made without sufficient public input.
Further, the decision to move the ceremony to the Star Center disproportionately inconveniences larger families, many of whom happen to be Hispanic.”
April 6, 2007 2:04 PM
Tia said...
“Everyone has already heard the arguments for and against returning the graduation ceremony to The Pit so there’s no reason to spend a lot of time rehashing what’s already been said. The only issue left to be decided is what most of the parents want to do. We believe that most of the parents want the ceremony to be held in The Pit. So our only request is that you authorize a vote so that we can see what the parents want. If most of them want to hold the ceremony at the Star Center, then we should hold it at the Star Center; if most of the parents want to return to the Pit, then that’s what we should do. If you feel you can’t authorize a vote, then the only fair decision is to return the ceremony to The Pit given that the decision was made without sufficient public input.
Further, the decision to move the ceremony to the Star Center disproportionately inconveniences larger families, many of whom happen to be Hispanic.”
April 6, 2007 2:04 PM
Betocal said...
“Everyone has already heard the arguments for and against returning the graduation ceremony to The Pit so there’s no reason to spend a lot of time rehashing what’s already been said. The only issue left to be decided is what most of the parents want to do. We believe that most of the parents want the ceremony to be held in The Pit. So our only request is that you authorize a vote so that we can see what the parents want. If most of them want to hold the ceremony at the Star Center, then we should hold it at the Star Center; if most of the parents want to return to the Pit, then that’s what we should do. If you feel you can’t authorize a vote, then the only fair decision is to return the ceremony to The Pit given that the decision was made without sufficient public input.
Further, the decision to move the ceremony to the Star Center disproportionately inconveniences larger families, many of whom happen to be Hispanic.”
April 6, 2007 2:05 PM
Brown and Proud said...
“Everyone has already heard the arguments for and against returning the graduation ceremony to The Pit so there’s no reason to spend a lot of time rehashing what’s already been said. The only issue left to be decided is what most of the parents want to do. We believe that most of the parents want the ceremony to be held in The Pit. So our only request is that you authorize a vote so that we can see what the parents want. If most of them want to hold the ceremony at the Star Center, then we should hold it at the Star Center; if most of the parents want to return to the Pit, then that’s what we should do. If you feel you can’t authorize a vote, then the only fair decision is to return the ceremony to The Pit given that the decision was made without sufficient public input.
Further, the decision to move the ceremony to the Star Center disproportionately inconveniences larger families, many of whom happen to be Hispanic.”
April 6, 2007 2:05 PM
Kenny said...
“Everyone has already heard the arguments for and against returning the graduation ceremony to The Pit so there’s no reason to spend a lot of time rehashing what’s already been said. The only issue left to be decided is what most of the parents want to do. We believe that most of the parents want the ceremony to be held in The Pit. So our only request is that you authorize a vote so that we can see what the parents want. If most of them want to hold the ceremony at the Star Center, then we should hold it at the Star Center; if most of the parents want to return to the Pit, then that’s what we should do. If you feel you can’t authorize a vote, then the only fair decision is to return the ceremony to The Pit given that the decision was made without sufficient public input.
Further, the decision to move the ceremony to the Star Center disproportionately inconveniences larger families, many of whom happen to be Hispanic.”
April 6, 2007 2:05 PM
Maria Maria said...
“Everyone has already heard the arguments for and against returning the graduation ceremony to The Pit so there’s no reason to spend a lot of time rehashing what’s already been said. The only issue left to be decided is what most of the parents want to do. We believe that most of the parents want the ceremony to be held in The Pit. So our only request is that you authorize a vote so that we can see what the parents want. If most of them want to hold the ceremony at the Star Center, then we should hold it at the Star Center; if most of the parents want to return to the Pit, then that’s what we should do. If you feel you can’t authorize a vote, then the only fair decision is to return the ceremony to The Pit given that the decision was made without sufficient public input.
Further, the decision to move the ceremony to the Star Center disproportionately inconveniences larger families, many of whom happen to be Hispanic.”
April 6, 2007 2:06 PM
Theodore said...
“Everyone has already heard the arguments for and against returning the graduation ceremony to The Pit so there’s no reason to spend a lot of time rehashing what’s already been said. The only issue left to be decided is what most of the parents want to do. We believe that most of the parents want the ceremony to be held in The Pit. So our only request is that you authorize a vote so that we can see what the parents want. If most of them want to hold the ceremony at the Star Center, then we should hold it at the Star Center; if most of the parents want to return to the Pit, then that’s what we should do. If you feel you can’t authorize a vote, then the only fair decision is to return the ceremony to The Pit given that the decision was made without sufficient public input.
Further, the decision to move the ceremony to the Star Center disproportionately inconveniences larger families, many of whom happen to be Hispanic.”
April 6, 2007 2:06 PM
The Observer should have said...
“Everyone has already heard the arguments for and against returning the graduation ceremony to The Pit so there’s no reason to spend a lot of time rehashing what’s already been said. The only issue left to be decided is what most of the parents want to do. We believe that most of the parents want the ceremony to be held in The Pit. So our only request is that you authorize a vote so that we can see what the parents want. If most of them want to hold the ceremony at the Star Center, then we should hold it at the Star Center; if most of the parents want to return to the Pit, then that’s what we should do. If you feel you can’t authorize a vote, then the only fair decision is to return the ceremony to The Pit given that the decision was made without sufficient public input.
Further, the decision to move the ceremony to the Star Center disproportionately inconveniences larger families, many of whom happen to be Hispanic.”
April 6, 2007 2:06 PM
Senior 2007 said...
“Everyone has already heard the arguments for and against returning the graduation ceremony to The Pit so there’s no reason to spend a lot of time rehashing what’s already been said. The only issue left to be decided is what most of the parents want to do. We believe that most of the parents want the ceremony to be held in The Pit. So our only request is that you authorize a vote so that we can see what the parents want. If most of them want to hold the ceremony at the Star Center, then we should hold it at the Star Center; if most of the parents want to return to the Pit, then that’s what we should do. If you feel you can’t authorize a vote, then the only fair decision is to return the ceremony to The Pit given that the decision was made without sufficient public input.
Further, the decision to move the ceremony to the Star Center disproportionately inconveniences larger families, many of whom happen to be Hispanic.”
April 6, 2007 2:07 PM
Billy said...
“Everyone has already heard the arguments for and against returning the graduation ceremony to The Pit so there’s no reason to spend a lot of time rehashing what’s already been said. The only issue left to be decided is what most of the parents want to do. We believe that most of the parents want the ceremony to be held in The Pit. So our only request is that you authorize a vote so that we can see what the parents want. If most of them want to hold the ceremony at the Star Center, then we should hold it at the Star Center; if most of the parents want to return to the Pit, then that’s what we should do. If you feel you can’t authorize a vote, then the only fair decision is to return the ceremony to The Pit given that the decision was made without sufficient public input.
Further, the decision to move the ceremony to the Star Center disproportionately inconveniences larger families, many of whom happen to be Hispanic.”
April 6, 2007 2:07 PM
Connie said...
“Everyone has already heard the arguments for and against returning the graduation ceremony to The Pit so there’s no reason to spend a lot of time rehashing what’s already been said. The only issue left to be decided is what most of the parents want to do. We believe that most of the parents want the ceremony to be held in The Pit. So our only request is that you authorize a vote so that we can see what the parents want. If most of them want to hold the ceremony at the Star Center, then we should hold it at the Star Center; if most of the parents want to return to the Pit, then that’s what we should do. If you feel you can’t authorize a vote, then the only fair decision is to return the ceremony to The Pit given that the decision was made without sufficient public input.
Further, the decision to move the ceremony to the Star Center disproportionately inconveniences larger families, many of whom happen to be Hispanic.”
April 6, 2007 2:08 PM
Nate said...
“Everyone has already heard the arguments for and against returning the graduation ceremony to The Pit so there’s no reason to spend a lot of time rehashing what’s already been said. The only issue left to be decided is what most of the parents want to do. We believe that most of the parents want the ceremony to be held in The Pit. So our only request is that you authorize a vote so that we can see what the parents want. If most of them want to hold the ceremony at the Star Center, then we should hold it at the Star Center; if most of the parents want to return to the Pit, then that’s what we should do. If you feel you can’t authorize a vote, then the only fair decision is to return the ceremony to The Pit given that the decision was made without sufficient public input.
Further, the decision to move the ceremony to the Star Center disproportionately inconveniences larger families, many of whom happen to be Hispanic.”
April 6, 2007 2:08 PM
Esqui said...
“Everyone has already heard the arguments for and against returning the graduation ceremony to The Pit so there’s no reason to spend a lot of time rehashing what’s already been said. The only issue left to be decided is what most of the parents want to do. We believe that most of the parents want the ceremony to be held in The Pit. So our only request is that you authorize a vote so that we can see what the parents want. If most of them want to hold the ceremony at the Star Center, then we should hold it at the Star Center; if most of the parents want to return to the Pit, then that’s what we should do. If you feel you can’t authorize a vote, then the only fair decision is to return the ceremony to The Pit given that the decision was made without sufficient public input.
Further, the decision to move the ceremony to the Star Center disproportionately inconveniences larger families, many of whom happen to be Hispanic.”
April 6, 2007 2:08 PM
Emile said...
“Everyone has already heard the arguments for and against returning the graduation ceremony to The Pit so there’s no reason to spend a lot of time rehashing what’s already been said. The only issue left to be decided is what most of the parents want to do. We believe that most of the parents want the ceremony to be held in The Pit. So our only request is that you authorize a vote so that we can see what the parents want. If most of them want to hold the ceremony at the Star Center, then we should hold it at the Star Center; if most of the parents want to return to the Pit, then that’s what we should do. If you feel you can’t authorize a vote, then the only fair decision is to return the ceremony to The Pit given that the decision was made without sufficient public input.
Further, the decision to move the ceremony to the Star Center disproportionately inconveniences larger families, many of whom happen to be Hispanic.”
April 6, 2007 2:09 PM
Nocturnals said...
“Everyone has already heard the arguments for and against returning the graduation ceremony to The Pit so there’s no reason to spend a lot of time rehashing what’s already been said. The only issue left to be decided is what most of the parents want to do. We believe that most of the parents want the ceremony to be held in The Pit. So our only request is that you authorize a vote so that we can see what the parents want. If most of them want to hold the ceremony at the Star Center, then we should hold it at the Star Center; if most of the parents want to return to the Pit, then that’s what we should do. If you feel you can’t authorize a vote, then the only fair decision is to return the ceremony to The Pit given that the decision was made without sufficient public input.
Further, the decision to move the ceremony to the Star Center disproportionately inconveniences larger families, many of whom happen to be Hispanic.”
April 6, 2007 2:09 PM
Barbara said...
“Everyone has already heard the arguments for and against returning the graduation ceremony to The Pit so there’s no reason to spend a lot of time rehashing what’s already been said. The only issue left to be decided is what most of the parents want to do. We believe that most of the parents want the ceremony to be held in The Pit. So our only request is that you authorize a vote so that we can see what the parents want. If most of them want to hold the ceremony at the Star Center, then we should hold it at the Star Center; if most of the parents want to return to the Pit, then that’s what we should do. If you feel you can’t authorize a vote, then the only fair decision is to return the ceremony to The Pit given that the decision was made without sufficient public input.
Further, the decision to move the ceremony to the Star Center disproportionately inconveniences larger families, many of whom happen to be Hispanic.”
April 6, 2007 2:09 PM
Sancho said...
“Everyone has already heard the arguments for and against returning the graduation ceremony to The Pit so there’s no reason to spend a lot of time rehashing what’s already been said. The only issue left to be decided is what most of the parents want to do. We believe that most of the parents want the ceremony to be held in The Pit. So our only request is that you authorize a vote so that we can see what the parents want. If most of them want to hold the ceremony at the Star Center, then we should hold it at the Star Center; if most of the parents want to return to the Pit, then that’s what we should do. If you feel you can’t authorize a vote, then the only fair decision is to return the ceremony to The Pit given that the decision was made without sufficient public input.
Further, the decision to move the ceremony to the Star Center disproportionately inconveniences larger families, many of whom happen to be Hispanic.”
April 6, 2007 2:09 PM
G said...
“Everyone has already heard the arguments for and against returning the graduation ceremony to The Pit so there’s no reason to spend a lot of time rehashing what’s already been said. The only issue left to be decided is what most of the parents want to do. We believe that most of the parents want the ceremony to be held in The Pit. So our only request is that you authorize a vote so that we can see what the parents want. If most of them want to hold the ceremony at the Star Center, then we should hold it at the Star Center; if most of the parents want to return to the Pit, then that’s what we should do. If you feel you can’t authorize a vote, then the only fair decision is to return the ceremony to The Pit given that the decision was made without sufficient public input.
Further, the decision to move the ceremony to the Star Center disproportionately inconveniences larger families, many of whom happen to be Hispanic.”
April 6, 2007 2:10 PM
El said...
“Everyone has already heard the arguments for and against returning the graduation ceremony to The Pit so there’s no reason to spend a lot of time rehashing what’s already been said. The only issue left to be decided is what most of the parents want to do. We believe that most of the parents want the ceremony to be held in The Pit. So our only request is that you authorize a vote so that we can see what the parents want. If most of them want to hold the ceremony at the Star Center, then we should hold it at the Star Center; if most of the parents want to return to the Pit, then that’s what we should do. If you feel you can’t authorize a vote, then the only fair decision is to return the ceremony to The Pit given that the decision was made without sufficient public input.
Further, the decision to move the ceremony to the Star Center disproportionately inconveniences larger families, many of whom happen to be Hispanic.”
April 6, 2007 2:10 PM
Teo said...
“Everyone has already heard the arguments for and against returning the graduation ceremony to The Pit so there’s no reason to spend a lot of time rehashing what’s already been said. The only issue left to be decided is what most of the parents want to do. We believe that most of the parents want the ceremony to be held in The Pit. So our only request is that you authorize a vote so that we can see what the parents want. If most of them want to hold the ceremony at the Star Center, then we should hold it at the Star Center; if most of the parents want to return to the Pit, then that’s what we should do. If you feel you can’t authorize a vote, then the only fair decision is to return the ceremony to The Pit given that the decision was made without sufficient public input.
Further, the decision to move the ceremony to the Star Center disproportionately inconveniences larger families, many of whom happen to be Hispanic.”
April 6, 2007 2:10 PM
Val said...
“Everyone has already heard the arguments for and against returning the graduation ceremony to The Pit so there’s no reason to spend a lot of time rehashing what’s already been said. The only issue left to be decided is what most of the parents want to do. We believe that most of the parents want the ceremony to be held in The Pit. So our only request is that you authorize a vote so that we can see what the parents want. If most of them want to hold the ceremony at the Star Center, then we should hold it at the Star Center; if most of the parents want to return to the Pit, then that’s what we should do. If you feel you can’t authorize a vote, then the only fair decision is to return the ceremony to The Pit given that the decision was made without sufficient public input.
Further, the decision to move the ceremony to the Star Center disproportionately inconveniences larger families, many of whom happen to be Hispanic.”
April 6, 2007 2:11 PM
i said...
“Everyone has already heard the arguments for and against returning the graduation ceremony to The Pit so there’s no reason to spend a lot of time rehashing what’s already been said. The only issue left to be decided is what most of the parents want to do. We believe that most of the parents want the ceremony to be held in The Pit. So our only request is that you authorize a vote so that we can see what the parents want. If most of them want to hold the ceremony at the Star Center, then we should hold it at the Star Center; if most of the parents want to return to the Pit, then that’s what we should do. If you feel you can’t authorize a vote, then the only fair decision is to return the ceremony to The Pit given that the decision was made without sufficient public input.
Further, the decision to move the ceremony to the Star Center disproportionately inconveniences larger families, many of whom happen to be Hispanic.”
April 6, 2007 2:11 PM
I agree said...
Surely we have legal rights?
Each School Board member is sworn in by a judge and their oath of service maintains they must uphold the Constitution of the United States as well as the school's, isn't this a direct violation of "due process", fair process, or any equal and "good faith" standards that adhere to our Constitution and what they were founded on? I have personally heard that Dr. Cleveland is "fair" and we are absolutely counting on that in this matter.
April 6, 2007 2:19 PM
Bringing it ALL BACK HOME said...
Surely we have legal rights?
Each School Board member is sworn in by a judge and their oath of service maintains they must uphold the Constitution of the United States as well as the school's, isn't this a direct violation of "due process", fair process, or any equal and "good faith" standards that adhere to our Constitution and what they were founded on? I have personally heard that Dr. Cleveland is "fair" and we are absolutely counting on that in this matter.
April 6, 2007 2:40 PM
Uncle A said...
Going back to the Pit is a great idea. For many students this is there only claim to fame. Relatives would like to attend the ceremony and the Pit can hold more people who obviously would like to attend. Having a graduation with limited seating is archaic and so bourgeois. Step up to the plate and give family a chance to celebate this momentous occasion. Many have to travel great distances. Do you remember how they treated Mary and Joseph, there was no room at the inn. Don't do the same to the greates class of Rio Rancho's history, the class of 2007.
April 6, 2007 2:43 PM
Plan to Fail said...
“Fail to Plan
Plan to Fail”
"We'll have to have cable."
"What are you doing for DISH subscribers?"
You are trying to put a band-aid on a severe wound
Thanks Malone
Aubry
April 6, 2007 2:43 PM
Anonymous said...
We need your help everyone must be united. We can sign a thousand petitions, but they’re NOT going to go back. PLEASE let there be a fair vote. We need to continue to show that we want THE PIT back. Please call Yvette for more info 994-9648 thanks for all your support.
April 6, 2007 2:47 PM
Senior 2007 said...
Gary Herron from the Rio Rancho paper was very wrong for trying to put an age limit on who may attend the graduation.
The way I see it as a senior, is we are role models for the younger children to stay in school so they will accomplish this in their life.
It teaches children that if we can do it they can do it too just stay in school and do good.
It is wrong to not let them go then it just makes them think well since I may not attend to see them graduate why should they?
It is also making Herron look really bad for trying to say that children 10 years and under should stay home with a babysitter.
Why dont he stay home himself?
We seniors are really good role models for those that are younger so they will want to stay in school.
IT shows them that anything we put our minds to and make goals we can accomplish.
We Need to go back to the Pit so everyone may attend no matter what the age is.
April 6, 2007 2:51 PM
To Dr. Cleveland said...
Dr. Sue Cleveland,
Thousands of people will not be allowed to attend the graduation. It is imperative you put this to a vote. All seniors and their families, not just those who complained after the 2006 graduation.
Jack
April 6, 2007 6:13 PM
To Dr. Sue Clevleland said...
RRPS left parents out of a significant decision.The PIT will hold 13,000 people.The Star Center 5500.This is the largest graduating class.Plans should have been vote on by the people it most affects.Last year the PIT was packed with families and the graduating class was not as large.Go back now.
Eli
April 6, 2007 8:13 PM
Kool Website said...
AWESOME!
Doc Clevelander,
Yo!
This is bogus!
Don't rip off the masses!
Let em VOTE!
ROCK THE VOTE!
April 6, 2007 8:17 PM
The good DR. said...
Get it?
Got it?
Good?
Go Back
April 6, 2007 8:21 PM
SCHOOL BOARD MEETING 4/9 said...
THE SCHOOL BOARD MEETING
Monday April 9 at 5:00 pm
ANYONE THAT CAN ATTEND PLEASE GO
HAVE FAMILY MEMBERS-FRIENDS-ANYONE
WHO WANTS TO SUPPORT THE MOVE TO THE PIT
PLEASE GO
CALL ME IF YOU KNOW FOR SURE THAT YOU ARE GOING TO ATTEND
SO WE CAN ALL GET TOGETHER BEFORE THAT DATE
MY NUMBER AGAIN IS 994-9648
OR EMAIL ME AT nanee_angel@yahoo.com
April 6, 2007 8:22 PM
The Contract Dr. Cleveland said...
Before any contracts were signed
Note:
RRPS received my comment at the very beginning when this all started - and before any contracts were signed!
The decision to move the 2007 graduation was handled improperly and was the wrong decision. Parents should have been surveyed prior to the decision. Please let me know who was responsible for this decision. The current class sizes are too large to try to graduate anywhere smaller than the Pit. My wife and I have 5 children, one of which graduates this year. My parents, who have already bought airline tickets from Ohio, my wife's parent's and a couple sisters plan to attend just like the past two years. Who do I get to leave home with my allotment of six tickets? I know there will be many other people in the same situation. Do you really expect people to return their six tickets? The only chance I have of letting my family share the occasion is to find some friend who isn't using all of their tickets. I highly recommend you reconsider the decision and keep the Pit location while you still can.
April 6, 2007 8:24 PM
Dr. Cleveland, Mayor Jackson, Corporate Sponsors, The Observer said...
The schools truly try to teach Honesty, Integrity, Fairness, Democracy to name a few.
But SADLY, and I do mean SADLY, they don’t practice what they preach starting at the very TOP!
I copied this from another comment but I really thought it really hit the nail on the head.
Dr. Cleveland, Mayor Jackson, Corporate Sponsors, The Observer this is DISCRIMINATION!
Christian
April 6, 2007 8:32 PM
SCHOOL BOARD MEETING 4/9 said...
THE SCHOOL BOARD MEETING
Monday April 9 at 5:00 pm
ANYONE THAT CAN ATTEND PLEASE GO
HAVE FAMILY MEMBERS-FRIENDS-ANYONE
WHO WANTS TO SUPPORT THE MOVE TO THE PIT
PLEASE GO
CALL ME IF YOU KNOW FOR SURE THAT YOU ARE GOING TO ATTEND
SO WE CAN ALL GET TOGETHER BEFORE THAT DATE
MY NUMBER AGAIN IS 994-9648
OR EMAIL ME AT nanee_angel@yahoo.com
April 7, 2007 7:54 AM
To DR. Cleveland said...
"Precious moments" in time, that is what is special in life.
Watching your son or daughter graduate IN PERSON is an important "precious moment", truly a celebration.
It is not about us it is about THEM!
IT REALLY IS ABOUT ALL OF US!
The graduates have earned it through 12 years of study.
THEIR FAMILIES ARE SO PROUD!
We applaud all of those teachers and school staff that helped them along the way.
Thank you and God Bless.
Dr. Cleveland do the right thing, THOUSANDS ARE BEING ALIENATED from this grand event, your decision is WRONG!
Ross
April 7, 2007 8:06 AM
Me TOO Dr. Cleveland! said...
Each School Board member is sworn in by a judge and their oath of service maintains they must uphold the Constitution of the United States as well as the school's, isn't this a direct violation of "due process", fair process, or any equal and "good faith" standards that adhere to our Constitution and what they were founded on? I have personally heard that Dr. Cleveland is "fair" and we are absolutely counting on that in this matter.
Laurie
April 7, 2007 8:14 AM
go back said...
GO BACK!
April 7, 2007 9:24 AM
Attn: Dr. Sue Cleveland said...
Dr. Cleveland and RRPS,
I believe we have our accurate facts listed here numerous times. So, like an echo, Dr. Cleveland, “it is NOT why you imposed your decision, IT IS HOW you imposed your decision.” I understand you actually took the time to meet with some parents. We all are coming from different points of view but agree on the main issues. I have read the different emails being passed along and I for one need you to understand I fortunately have secured some extra tickets. BUT THERE ARE FOUR FAMILY MEMBERS IN FROM OUT OF TOWN THAT WON’T BE ABLE TO ATTEND AND IT WAS NOT EASY HUSLTING DOWN THE EXTRA ONES EITHER, IT WAS A PAIN. My family won’t have enough there are many more families that also won’t. I want you to know it was VERY difficult figuring who got to go and who didn’t. That is where I agree with the comments calling this matter discrimination. The only reason I was able to secure those tickets is because of all the parents that I know, I really feel for the families that need extra tickets and don’t know as many people that I do. This makes their task all the more difficult. I heard you apologized; I have a much better suggestion, let US VOTE.
EACH SCHOOL BOARD MEMBER IS SWORN IN BY A JUDGE AND THEIR OATH OF SERVICE MAINTAINS THEY MUST UPHOLD THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES AS WELL AS THE SCHOOL'S, ISN'T THIS A DIRECT VIOLATION OF "DUE PROCESS", FAIR PROCESS, OR ANY EQUAL AND "GOOD FAITH" STANDARDS THAT ADHERE TO OUR CONSTITUTION AND WHAT THEY WERE FOUNDED ON? I HAVE PERSONALLY HEARD THAT DR. CLEVELAND IS "FAIR" AND WE ARE ABSOLUTELY COUNTING ON THAT IN THIS MATTER.
Shirley
April 7, 2007 2:09 PM
To Dr. Cleveland said...
Doc let's PACK THE PIT!
Capacity of the Pit:
18,000 plus can fit.
A section is blocked off so now 12,000 can fit.
They had to open up that section for last year’s graduation for us because we had the largest Class, which meant more people.
The 2007 Class is even Bigger, which will mean more people.
The media and school started out saying that 690 Seniors would be graduating; NOW they are saying 770 Seniors are graduating.
That means their figures were off and there will be more people coming.
Do you realize the graduating Class WILL be even bigger as each year goes by?
The section can be opened up so 13,000, 15,000 or up to 18,000 people as needed.
IF YOU DON’T THINK THE NUMBERS ARE CORRECT, CALL THE PIT.
A local newspaper reporter (Gary Herron) is trying to say 11,000 would come BUT remember, he is basing it on what he thinks last years’ numbers were, but he his wrong. Then he suggests that 10 years old and under CANNOT attend the graduation! Can you believe that? He is WRONG on last years’ numbers because they had to open up the section that is closed off, so there were more then 11,000 people present, this means more will come this year along with anyone under the age of 10!
Rio Rancho year in and year out AVERAGES roughly 20 people per graduate. That is an average.
Whatever numbers you want to use the fact remains the same 11,000+ to 15,000+ people are being affected by this decision.
“Let me play the devil’s advocate”, (like Gary did) WHAT IS WRONG WITH RIO RANCHO “PACKING THE PIT” FOR A GRADUATION?
We should be proud we did! Isn’t it true that Sue Cleveland and company, Gary Herron and Coach Brian Smith exhorted and hoped that we would “Pack The Pit” for all of basketball games?
Didn’t Mayor Jackson show his support and come out for the game; I think that is Great that he showed his support over a GAME?
QUOTING: Mayor Kevin Jackson said the development of the city's school district has given Rio Rancho a sense of identity.
"We didn't have that when I was growing up," said Jackson, who has lived in Rio Rancho since the 1960s and plans to attend tonight's championship. "There's an elevation in pride in how well the teams have done, not just in athletics, but in academic, student government and all the student-related programs."
QUOTING: "You saw the crowd tonight," Rio Rancho coach Brian Smith said after the Rams semifinal win Thursday night at The Pit. "There are 70,000 people in Rio Rancho. This place should be packed. Where is everybody?"
I think this was Great too showing support and networking with others!
QUOTING: Sarah Stevenson, a team manager, hung flyers around the sprawling Rio Rancho campus Thursday to promote the game.
"I saw a lot of people stopping to look at them and a lot of people asked me about the game," Stevenson said.
Her mother, who works at a local elementary school, told Stevenson that e-mails about Rams basketball have been flowing into her inbox. Gary did you do these interviews? No that was an Albuquerque Tribune reporter.
Consider then we want to “PACK THE PIT” for a sporting event, AND I DO TOO, why not “PACK THE PIT” for RRPS’s BIGGEST EVENT, their High School Graduation?!
I would hope our Mayor that showed that much enthusiasm for a “game” would show more for the WRONG being imposed on the Class of 2007.
I would hope Sue Cleveland and company, along with Gary Herron and other media that showed that much enthusiasm for a “game” would show more for the WRONG being imposed on the Class of 2007 especially our Seniors our children!
Weren’t we condemned and criticized in the news, in public for our emails and networking to get this situation changed?
Mayor Jackson, Sue Cleveland and company, Gary Herron, the Ryans and other media, which is more important a “game” or a graduation? I feel they are both important.
What about the fact that several thousands are affected men, women and children?
What about the fact an injustice has been dealt them?
What is wrong with anyone striving for:
“We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed, by their Creator, with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness”
“GO BACK TO THE PIT – PACK THE PIT” anyone under 10 are welcome too!
Surely we have legal rights?
Each School Board member is sworn in by a judge and their oath of service maintains they must uphold the Constitution of the United States as well as the school's, isn't this a direct violation of "due process", fair process, or any equal and "good faith" standards that adhere to our Constitution and what they were founded on? I have personally heard that Dr. Cleveland is "fair" and we are absolutely counting on that in this matter.
“Everyone has already heard the arguments for and against returning the graduation ceremony to The Pit so there’s no reason to spend a lot of time rehashing what’s already been said. The only issue left to be decided is what most of the parents want to do. We believe that most of the parents want the ceremony to be held in The Pit. So our only request is that you authorize a vote so that we can see what the parents want. If most of them want to hold the ceremony at the Star Center, then we should hold it at the Star Center; if most of the parents want to return to the Pit, then that’s what we should do. If you feel you can’t authorize a vote, then the only fair decision is to return the ceremony to The Pit given that the decision was made without sufficient public input.
Further, the decision to move the ceremony to the Star Center disproportionately inconveniences larger families, many of whom happen to be Hispanic.”
Lorenzo
April 7, 2007 2:48 PM
To Dr. Cleveland said...
Dear Dr. Cleveland
Read the comments submitted to this website.
The school’s decision is seriously wrong, no matter the reasons this is grossly unjust. I have heard all of the explanations pro and con, and you continue full speed ahead. Sure, life is not fair, but what about right and wrong? You advised some parents “I wish we had it to do over again”. Hmmm…….you have time to do it over again.
1. Allow seniors and their families to vote.
2. Why, because you have already allowed input from some of the public and your staff and then acted on it.
3. You have not allowed input by everyone that is directly affected.
4. You will then know which is location to use.
5. If you don’t allow this vote then take the graduation back to The Pit.
6. Dr. Cleveland you are being advised and influenced by persons that have their own motives and interests. Of course businesses and the mayor offer their support but they are overlooking some critical facts.
7. My motive here is simply this, our children, if you don’t allow this vote or change this back Dr. Cleveland, then you have to understand your decision is discriminatory, unfair and was not done in “good faith”.
8. Further, if you allow your current course to continue you are then absolutely negligent in your constitutional duties that govern not only your subordinates but also our children.
9. Consider if you will, you have had students motivated enough to prepare petitions, you had families come together to question your decision, because no one would listen to their concerns.
10. Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
Darlene
April 7, 2007 7:34 PM
“what we got here is failure to communicate” said...
Dr. Cleveland, RRPS, Mayor Jackson, The Observer,
We all know right from wrong:
“what we got here is failure to communicate”
April 7, 2007 9:10 PM
Call Yvette 994-9648 said...
Yes, Call Yvette 994-9648
We have started a Hard Copy paper PETITION and if you would like to sign it, please call me and I will meet you to get it signed.
My number again is 994-9648.
April 7, 2007 10:03 PM
Happy Easter said...
Happy Easter,
and Dr. Cleveland
"do the right thing"
let us VOTE,
or go back!
April 8, 2007 11:55 AM
GRADUATE OF 2007 said...
HEY EVERYONE SCHOOL BOARD MEETING TOMORROW APRIL 9,2007 WE NEED YOU BE TO THERE BY 5:00PM AT THE SCHOOL DISTRICT OFFICE. WE NEED ALL THE SUPPORT WE CAN GET TO SHOW THEM ITS NOT ONLY A FEW OF US THAT WANT IT AT THE PIT.
ATTN SENIORS: WE NEED ALL OF YOU TO GET A WHITE T-SHIRT SAYING IF THE CHOICE IS OURS WE WANT THE PIT. WEAR THEM TO SCHOOL TOMORROW(MONDAY) AND TO THE SCHOOL BOARD MEETING.
April 8, 2007 1:18 PM
ATTENTION SENIORS: said...
ATTN SENIORS:
WE NEED ALL OF YOU TO GET A WHITE T-SHIRT SAYING IF THE CHOICE IS OURS WE WANT THE PIT. WEAR THEM TO SCHOOL TOMORROW(MONDAY) AND TO THE SCHOOL BOARD MEETING.
April 8, 2007 1:25 PM
Anonymous said...
Is there anything in the state of New Mexico, indoors, with 35,000 seats?
April 8, 2007 7:51 PM
RRPS employee said...
My fellow Rio Rancho Public School employees and Dr. Sue Cleveland:
I for one would like to reflect, “here's a situation that disproportionately affects large families. Is it an ‘unintended consequence’ that most of the large families who will have to pare down their numbers to 6 or 8, are Hispanic?
Is it “arrogance and thoughtlessness” or are we all just “Victims of political posturing”?
Is it true "The proof is in the pudding"?
Is it really discrimination?
Is it ok for The Observer, etc., to batter persons that in truth are only exercising their First Amendment Rights?
Who is really being “underhanded and nasty at best”?
Is it fair anyone under the age of 10 years old can’t attend any graduations?
Is it true families along with their graduates are being adversely affected by this last minute decision?
Is it true the “many” that wanted the graduation here in Rio Rancho because of the 2006 graduation problems, were only “one hundred” people?
Is it true seniors and their families were not allowed to vote?
Is it true this will impact 10 to 14,000 people this year?
Is it true you can break the contract?
Is it true that Dr. Cleveland said, “I wish I had this to do over again” referring the current decision?
Is it true, traveling to the graduation, parking and leaving the graduation is going to make for “one fun day”?
Is it true The Pit is ranked number 13 in the world?
Is it true Mayor Kevin Jackson along with other businesses are doing “all they can to keep this in Rio Rancho”?
Is it true we have an interesting list of “corporate sponsors”?
Is it true that students from “Cibola High School caused most of the uproar at last year’s graduation” and The Observer and all other naysayers have it all wrong by blaming “cousins” and extended family?
Is it true if The Observer actually placed a “real” reporter to ask tough questions that they would have found out that “fact” along with all the others?
Is it true RRPS is keeping the so called “contract” on “the down low” because the “corporate sponsors” “cut us one helluva deal, spanning the next 3 to 5 years and they don’t want to get the next graduation classes for 2008, 2009, and 2010 riled up yet?
Is it true Mr. VonAncken always tells students in his speeches “the choice is yours” but the reality is not this time?
Is it true the school board does not have any Hispanics on it?
Is it true the “parent council” does not have any Hispanics on it?
RRPS employee
April 8, 2007 8:50 PM
African proverb: said...
"It takes a village to raise a child."
"But only part of that village is allowed to attend the child's graduation" S. Andrade
April 8, 2007 9:08 PM
KOAT-TV said...
Newcast on 4/8 stated, the decision to change the graduation from The Pit to the Star Center was principal Richard VonAncken’s decision and that Dr. Sue Cleveland approved Mr. VonAncken's decision. Also, the school board has NO intentions of changing Mr. VonAncken’s decision.
April 8, 2007 9:19 PM
KOAT TV said...
the link:
www.koat.com/video/11577440/index.html?taf=alb
Newcast on 4/8 stated, the decision to change the graduation from The Pit to the Star Center was principal Richard VonAncken’s decision and that Dr. Sue Cleveland approved Mr. VonAncken's decision. Also, the school board has NO intentions of changing Mr. VonAncken’s decision.
April 9, 2007 6:33 AM
Gidge said...
Folks,
Myself, my husband and one other parent met with Dr. Cleveland this morning to discuss the graduation. She was not aware that it had been announced on the news broadcast that the board had no intention of changing. She was curious to know where that came from.
PLEASE SHOW UP TO THE BOARD MEETING TODAY AT 5PM! Dr. Cleveland DID NOT say that they WOULD NOT change it! IF YOU ARE TRULY DISPLEASED WITH THE CURRENT SITUATION, PLEASE MAKE EVERY EFFORT TO ATTEND THE MEETING TODAY!
Gidge
April 9, 2007 10:42 AM
TODAY School Board Meeting said...
School Board Meeting TODAY:
Get there BEFORE 5:30 if at all possible
5 PM is best,
But EVEN if you are running late due to work or traffic,
come anyway,
because they usually cover other matters before people start speaking
so please go ahead and come.
District office, 500 Laser Rd. Rio Rancho, NM 87124
505-896-0667
April 9, 2007 11:46 AM
Anonymous said...
MY SISTER IS GRADUATING AND I WON'T SEE HER. THIS IS UPSETTING COME ON CLEAVLAND WE WANT THE GRADUATION AT THE PIT
April 9, 2007 3:45 PM
LET US VOTE said...
We WANT to vote. America is about DEMOCRACY in accordance to the United States Constitution.
Nick
April 9, 2007 4:06 PM
RRPS School Board Meetin said...
CONGRATULATIONS TO STUDENTS, FAMILIES AND LOVED ONES THAT PACKED THE SCHOOL BOARD MEETING!!
Even several news affiliates made it!!
NOW WE WANT TO PACK THE PIT!
NEXT SCHOOL BOARD IS April 23, 2007
Austin
April 9, 2007 7:05 PM
Anonymous said...
Congratulations for what?
April 9, 2007 7:14 PM
BRAVO!! said...
BRAVO!!
TO ALL STUDENTS, FAMILIES AND LOVED ONES
“For the sake of our children”
PACK THE PIT!
Rod
April 9, 2007 7:38 PM
"Do not go gentle into that good night" said...
SENIORS "Do not go gentle into that good night"
2007 SENIORS ROCK!
Jesse
April 9, 2007 8:05 PM
"Rage, rage against the dying of the light" said...
SENIORS, "Rage, rage against the dying of the light"
SENIOR 2007
Mark
April 9, 2007 8:09 PM
ALL SENIORS said...
SENIORS, “Bless, me now with your fierce tears, I pray…
Do not go gentle into that good night…
Rage, rage against the dying of the light”
ALL SENIORS, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010!
April 9, 2007 8:13 PM
AN EMAIL SENT TO ME said...
"No matter what they (RRPS) end up doing please don't forget,
'The class of 2007 and their families were NOT allowed or asked for input, (the decision) discriminates against ANYONE that needs more than 6 or 8 tickets.'
And because of this 'thousands' are being affected.
Surely they must be better stewards of our children?"
Kenny
April 9, 2007 8:23 PM
Question re: Board meeting said...
Hi, I just caught part of the news coverage on channel 7 and 13 tonight, they showed a brief clip of Dr. V. Sue Cleveland saying "they did things wrong". Can anyone quote everything she said?
Dick
April 9, 2007 9:22 PM
KOAT-TV said...
5TH newscast:
the link:
www.koat.com/video/11593262/index.html?taf=alb
April 9, 2007 10:58 PM
Dr. Cleveland's comments caught on camera said...
Dr. V. Sue Cleveland,
Updated, please disregard my earlier email, thank you.
You stated on camera 04/09/07 that parents were given 4 months notice about your decision.
Feel free to rebut this.
Please know there were several families that never received the “letter” from the school, which informed about the change. It is my understanding that Mrs. Gidget Anaya testified to you concerning how the “letter” arrived. You were advised if parents was not paying attention and did not read thoroughly through all of the documents that were mailed along with the “letter” about the graduation being changed, the “letter” was easily missed. Because the “letter” about the change was not the first document, it was among the other documents but a more “oh by the way” type deal. NO emphasis was given over a very critical matter and letter.
Thanks to KOAT-TV being on the ball that is in part how the information spread that a changed occurred. Further, no one from your office or the principal’s office would return her calls. There were others that did not know because they did not get the letter or see the news story. So, word was reaching a portion of families in March, but not everyone knew.
Dr. Cleveland, from March to April is one month, from April to May would make it 2 months. So roughly 2 months notice were given not 4 months as you stated on camera. Even into late March there were several families that were completely unaware of the change and the news coverage.
I wanted to make sure of this because “The Observer” gave parents hell for misinformation. That also causes me great concern because not everyone received the “letter”?
Again, please rebut any of this.
Everyone is saying things to benefit “their side”, the fact still remains, “thousands” are being affected and your decision is “wrong and discriminatory.”
Parents “in the know” have been trying to contact you since March concerning this, not until 04/06/07 did you finally allow meetings with a few parents. Many more parents wanted to meet with you but could not get time off around the very short notice you gave. And, not until you had put even more effort in keeping the graduation in Rio Rancho and now have tried to rationalize your "wrong"!
Prior to those recent meetings you finally allowed, you were not returning calls, or contacting families that tried to communicate with you. You were “passing them off” to your subordinates that basically were giving families template statements and “it’s a done deal” speech while clinging to the “contract is signed” rhetoric.
SADLY, you and your staff played upon our ignorance, who has the time and energy to really challenge this the way it should be? “The Observer” and the Ryan’s literally “attacked” anyone that dare speak up, “shame on them”! Even “anonymous” persons added their “nasty and bigoted” remarks. Literally putting down relatives and extended family along with telling advertisers to “move back to Mexico. (It now comes out according to you that “Cibola students” were the culprits, and we were falsely accused, but who cared because the attitude was “how dare we”, speak up! Reminds me of “Oliver Twist”, yes a child, asking for “more gruel”!) Dr. Cleveland, regarding “Cibola students” I would caution you to make sure your facts are dead on, that is a very serious accusation, one word “hearsay” and two more words "falsely accused".
I hope one of the families that spoke especially those Rio Rancho students touched your heart, they did mine. I was told you said you "cry at the graduations" and one mother broke down in tears in another meeting with you and told you her graduate had been crying over this!
Stop now Dr. Cleveland before it really is too late, "do the right thing" and change this back! All of your efforts and energy to keep the graduation in Rio Rancho DO NOT RIGHT THIS WRONG!
AN EMAIL SENT TO ME said...
"No matter what they (RRPS) end up doing please don't forget,
'The class of 2007 and their families were NOT allowed or asked for input, (the decision) discriminates against ANYONE that needs more than 6 or 8 tickets.'
And because of this 'thousands' are being affected.
Surely they must be better stewards of our children?"
Surely we have legal rights?
Each School Board member is sworn in by a judge and their oath of service maintains they must uphold the Constitution of the United States as well as the school's, isn't this a direct violation of "due process", fair process, or any equal and "good faith" standards that adhere to our Constitution and what they were founded on? We have personally heard that Dr. Cleveland is "fair" and we are absolutely counting on that in this matter.
“Everyone has already heard the arguments for and against returning the graduation ceremony to The Pit so there’s no reason to spend a lot of time rehashing what’s already been said. The only issue left to be decided is what most of the parents want to do. We believe that most of the parents want the ceremony to be held in The Pit. So our only request is that you authorize a vote so that we can see what the parents want. If most of them want to hold the ceremony at the Star Center, then we should hold it at the Star Center; if most of the parents want to return to the Pit, then that’s what we should do. If you feel you can’t authorize a vote, then the only fair decision is to return the ceremony to The Pit given that the decision was made without sufficient public input.
Further, the decision to move the ceremony to the Star Center disproportionately inconveniences larger families, many of whom happen to be Hispanic.”
Hello,
Please know that this matter is NOT OVER, we are picking up steam because "This last minute decision has affected all of the graduating Seniors for 2007, 2008, 2009 and 2010 along with their families and loved ones"
Attention: Seniors, Parents, Guardians, Families, Relatives, Students and concerned persons
REMEMBER THIS DECISION WILL AFFECT ALL GRADUATING SENIORS, THEIR FAMILIES AND LOVED ONES NOW 2007 & OVER THE NEXT 4 YEARS OR UNTIL THE NEW SCHOOL IS OPEN!
GREAT NEWS!!
THE PIT IS STILL AVAILABLE ON MAY 19TH
AND THEY WILL NOT BE BOOKING THAT TIME AND DATE FOR ANYONE
IT IS STILL OPEN!!!
Please visit the web log, copy and paste this into your browser
http://rioranchogradsunite.blogspot.com/
You can also email: cmj2nc@aol.com if you have any problems posting comments on the blog, thank you.
We are a group of families that would like to have the Class of 2007 Graduation returned to "The PIT."
At minimum, let’s put this matter to a fair vote.
We are respectfully asking Dr. Sue Cleveland to make the decision to return to "The PIT."
RRPS has broken contracts before and can break this contract now and go "BACK TO THE PIT."
We need all persons that want the Graduation to be returned to "The PIT" to let your voice be heard.
In an unprecedented administrative decision, input was NOT allowed, requested or regarded by everyone affected. Only certain voices were heard.
This last minute decision has affected all of the graduating Seniors for 2007, 2008, 2009 and 2010 along with their families and loved ones.
Due to this last minute decision over 10,000 people will not be able to attend the 2007 graduation.
We have heard all the reasons and explanations given by the administration and strongly feel they do not outweigh the fact that a fair process did not occur in the first place concerning this matter.
Please go online now. We have every right to be heard. "It’s not over till it’s over."
BACK TO THE Pit
FAMILY AND friends of Rio Rancho High School graduates DISCUSSION GROUP
Please visit the web log, copy and paste this into your browser
http://rioranchogradsunite.blogspot.com/
You can also email: cmj2nc@aol.com if you have any problems posting comments on the blog, thank you.
April 10, 2007 7:20 AM
KRQE 1ST newscast: said...
KRQE
1ST newscast:
the link:
http://www.krqe.com/video/expanded.asp?ID=6352
April 10, 2007 8:37 AM
Rio Rancho Journal said...
http://www.abqjournal.com/riorancho/553616west_news04-10-07.htm
Tuesday, April 10, 2007
School Boss Sorry for Graduation Flap
By Elaine D. Briseño
Journal Staff Writer
People attending the Rio Rancho school board meeting to complain about the change of venue for this year's high school graduation did not get what they wanted— the ceremony returned to Albuquerque— but they did get an apology from the superintendent.
Parents, students and others showed up at Monday's Rio Rancho Public Schools board meeting to speak for and against the district's recent decision to switch this year's graduation ceremony from the University of New Mexico Pit to the smaller Santa Ana Star Center in Rio Rancho. The attendees filled the board room and spilled into the hallway. The item was not on the agenda but they spoke about the issue during public comment. The board took no action.
In total, 10 people spoke about the change and of those, seven were opposed. The main complaint is that the switch to the smaller venue limits the number of guests students can invite to the ceremony. Each student will be given eight tickets and will have a chance to get extra ones from those that were not claimed, or from their friends. Some who spoke said that even extra tickets will not be sufficient.
Yvette Aragon has two daughters graduating this year. She has six siblings and her husband has 13. She said in an interview during the meeting that there is no way everyone will be able to attend with the venue change.
"I'm upset at the way they went about this," she said. "There was no parent or senior input."
The decision to change the ceremony location was made by RRPS administration and Rio Rancho High School principal Richard VonAncken in February. There was no official process to determine whether the change would be preferred by students or parents.
During the meeting, Superintendent Sue Cleveland apologized to families for making the decision late in the year.
"We did not handle this very well," she said. "It should have been done earlier. Nobody wanted to hurt families or the kids."
Parent Ben Johnson, whose daughter will graduate from RRHS in 2008, spoke in favor of the change. He said he prefers the smaller venue in Rio Rancho. Two other parents also spoke in favor of the venue change, saying it would be more intimate, safer and a way to show support for the city and its businesses.
The Pit can accommodate more than 18,000 with standing room while the capacity at Santa Ana is between 6,000 and 7,000. However, Cleveland said the number at the Pit is reduced to 14,000 for high school graduations.
Cleveland said one reason the district made the change was to allow the officials to have better crowd control than last year. She said the 2006 RRHS graduation followed Cibola High School's graduation, which is a huge Rio Rancho rival.
"The goal was to ensure that our graduates this year did not have to experience that," she said. "We feel badly about it."
Kristen Kenneth, a 2006 RRHS graduate, said before Cleveland made her statement that the class of 2007 should not be punished for what happened last year. Kenneth's boyfriend will graduate this year, but she probably will not be able to attend because of the limited seating.
"We sit here and talk about the community being in our district but you are not allowing the community to be involved because you are limiting the seats," she said. "This should not be about having it in Rio Rancho. It's about the students having their family and loved ones there. This is not right."
April 10, 2007 9:42 AM
"This is not right" said...
Like the saying goes “Out of the mouths of our babies”, I could not have said it any better, her comment really says it all.
Neal
Kristen Kenneth, a 2006 RRHS graduate, said before Cleveland made her statement that the class of 2007 should not be punished for what happened last year. Kenneth's boyfriend will graduate this year, but she probably will not be able to attend because of the limited seating.
"We sit here and talk about the community being in our district but you are not allowing the community to be involved because you are limiting the seats," she said. "This should not be about having it in Rio Rancho. It's about the students having their family and loved ones there. This is not right."
April 10, 2007 9:57 AM
To Dr. Cleveland and Families affected said...
Some GREAT reading here.
After taking the time to really consider all of the reasons the administration decided to change our graduation. I have concluded beyond a shadow of a doubt that their reasons are self-serving.
Their decisions discriminate against families and graduates and do not allow everyone to have a voice in this decision. It also places hardship, stress and is a serious distraction in people’s lives. It was completely one sided.
At this time if they would allow us to vote they would lose. They will not allow us to vote at all costs.
Now this will take legal action.
They are not listening and not conceding they are wrong. If the "good Doctor" were truly sorry she would send the graduation back to The Pit.
Additionally, it is overtly obvious that there is a vast difference between the coverage on the news and the quality of the journalism concerning the Rio Rancho Observer, G. Herron, the Rio Rancho Journal, specifically the Ryans and the Tribune.
Specifically, Herron and the Ryans editorial were both very offensive and poorly put together, "under handed and nasty, at best" with points that make no connections, other then to back the status quo. They never addressed the serious issues and made light of the fact a vote or fair input was not allowed; tickets are an obstacle; too bad for anyone’s extended family; and discriminated against persons concerning their age!
(Herron) actually placed an age limit on the event! They degraded and shamed families for requesting relief and made their best argument to tell them to shut up, using because we told you so thinking, were smart your not, we know you don’t logic.
The other Journal and Tribune reporters presented the information that was given to them in a balanced manner.
NOTE: Our very own newspaper in "the city of vision" the Observer has NOT interviewed ANYONE that opposes this decision! Repeat has NOT!
Which now more then ever begs to ask…..WHY?
Can anyone say,
"Conflict of Interest"
Or
"Corporate Partners"
Go Back to The Pit.
Randy
April 10, 2007 1:01 PM
YEAH!! "This is not right"!! said...
YES, literally “Out of the mouths of our babies”
Juanita
From the RR Journal -
Kristen Kenneth, a 2006 RRHS graduate, said before Cleveland made her statement that the class of 2007 should not be punished for what happened last year. Kenneth's boyfriend will graduate this year, but she probably will not be able to attend because of the limited seating.
"We sit here and talk about the community being in our district but you are not allowing the community to be involved because you are limiting the seats," she said. "This should not be about having it in Rio Rancho. It's about the students having their family and loved ones there. This is not right."
April 10, 2007 1:46 PM
To Dr. Cleveland - important said...
MY NAME IS LATISHA AND I AM 11 YEARS OLD I HAVE A SISTER WHO IS A GRADUATE AND I AM VERY SAD TO HEAR WHAT IS HAPPENING. I WAS TOLD THAT I MIGHT HAVE TO STAY HOME. I LOOK UP TO MY SISTER AND I AM PROUD OF HER. SHE HAS WORKED HARD TO GET TO WHERE SHE IS. I CRIED WHEN MY MOM TOLD ME AND MY BROTHER WHO IS 7YEARS OLD THE NEWS PAPER SAID THAT THEY SHOULD LEAVE 10 AN YOUNGER AT HOME AM I SUPOSE TO WATCH MY BROTHER INSTEAD OF MY SISTER GRADUATE? I DONT KNOW WHY THE SCHOOL BOARD WANTS TO DO THIS TO MY FAMILY AND LOTS OF OTHER FAMILYS ALSO. IT SADDENS ME BECAUSE I WILL GRADUATE SOME DAY AND I DONT WANT THIS TO HAPPEN TO ME. CAN SOME ONE PLEASE HELP ME SO I SEE MY SISTER GRADUATE. I WOULD LIKE TO GO TO THE PIT SO I CAN GO WITH MY GRANDMA AND GRANDPA AND MY ANTIES I LOVE MY SISTER PLEASE BACK TO THE PIT. SAD IN RIO RANCHO LATISHA
April 10, 2007 8:30 PM
To Dr. Sue Cleveland said...
YOU MADE A DECISION AFFECTING THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE
MEN, WOMEN AND CHILDREN
WITHOUT GIVING PROPER NOTICE,
WITHOUT ALLOWING DISCUSSION,
WITHOUT TAKING INTO ACCOUNT DISSENTING OPINIONS!
Julie
April 10, 2007 8:36 PM
To Dr. Sue Cleveland said...
I am 18 years old and will be graduating this year. My grandfather will not be able to go because we won't have enough tickets. Everyone I have asked also needs tickets. I understand why the principal changed OUR graduation and you approved it. This is OUR graduation, it is not your graduation or the families from last year that got mad, or the students from other schools. It is OUR graduation. My question to you is do you really understand what you did is wrong? My grandfather will not go to the PAC and we don't have cable. You have disregarded the sacred unity of family. If you think you apology excuses you, you have hurt my family and me. We have done nothing to any of you to deserve this. Sorry does not cut it. I am old enough to understand right from wrong. This will be a bad memory for me. Too bad my year was going ok this has really ruined it. The newspaper said we have to learn life is hard, I already know life is hard I’ve had enough bad things happen to my family. Maybe all of you need to learn life is hard and change OUR graduation back.
2007 SENIORS RULE
April 10, 2007 9:02 PM
GRADUATION ISSUES said...
I don’t know what I should write here but it looks like we covered everything, please add my email to this website. Thank you. To whom it may concern don't hurt the kids they worked hard all year. Then this, sincerely,
Lou
April 10, 2007 9:08 PM
Why? said...
Dr. Cleveland,
You only graduate one time from high school, sure the parents make a big to do about it and they should. Their son or daughter are blessings from God. We have enough problems in the world, why add to it?
Eleanor
April 10, 2007 9:18 PM
“RIGHT FROM WRONG" - "THIS IS NOT RIGHT" said...
At one end you have the Rio Rancho superintendent.
On the other end the have the Rio Rancho mayor.
Smack in the middle you have a Rio Rancho 2006 graduate.
When you consider all three, there is genuine HOPE!
Not from the adults, but rather the TEENAGER, the graduate!
WHY?
Because thank God and her loved ones she can really see and grasp “RIGHT FROM WRONG” and then acted on it!
There is HOPE for The City of Vision because of persons like this young lady.
I would guess for any of us that have had children and have watched them grow, we have given our best so that they would understand “right from wrong”.
Simple enough, because we all assume everyone knows “right from wrong”, right… wrong?
Of course the reality of life is, not everyone acts upon “right from wrong” or how we interpret what is right and what is wrong.
Of the three persons already mentioned here, surely she had other important matters in her life then to go sit for several hours before addressing the superintendent and the school board.
What prompted her?
Is it possible that genuine compassion and a great handle on “right from wrong” motivated her?
Motives:
Clearly her motives are pure; can the superintendent and the mayor say the same?
NO, because they have both failed miserably in this situation concerning “right from wrong”.
Regarding certain aspects, the superintendent admitted to being wrong, although she is quoted in the newspaper in March as saying, “I do understand the concern people have about it, she added.”
What a difference just one month makes.
Had she polled all the families affected prior to making the decision she would have learned the truth back then.
She told a parent on Good Friday, that, “we wish we had this to do over again” and “I wish we had done things differently”! This would be a semblance of “right from wrong”.
But now she must act on it.
Interestingly, the young graduate, did not have to poll all of the families, to know “right from wrong”, she considered the situation, saw the pros, saw the cons and told them all “this is not right”!
Dr. Cleveland,
YOU STILL CAN DO IT “OVER AGAIN”!
YOU STILL CAN DO “THINGS DIFFERENTLY”!
DON’T YOU SEE, “THIS IS NOT RIGHT”!
PLEASE LISTEN TO THIS YOUNG GRADUATE.
SHE HAS A MUCH BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF “RIGHT FROM WRONG”.
PUT HER ON YOUR STAFF.
SHE COULD RUN FOR MAYOR.
I am still empowered by her speech and her willingness to truly make a difference in the lives of others.
Thank you very much.
From the Rio Rancho Journal April 9th school board meeting -
Kristen Kenneth, a 2006 RRHS graduate, said before Cleveland made her statement that the class of 2007 should not be punished for what happened last year. Kenneth's boyfriend will graduate this year, but she probably will not be able to attend because of the limited seating.
"We sit here and talk about the community being in our district but you are not allowing the community to be involved because you are limiting the seats," she said. "This should not be about having it in Rio Rancho. It's about the students having their family and loved ones there. This is not right."
April 10, 2007 9:19 PM
Call Yvette 994-9648 said...
We have the Hard Copy paper PETITION please call me and I will meet you to get it signed. Please pass my number to other families thank you.
April 11, 2007 6:09 AM
School Board Meeting on 4/9/07 said...
Hello,
Can anyone access KOAT and KRQE to get a copy of the raw footage of everyone speaking? We heard there was excellent comments by the “magnificent 7” that spoke. It would be great to get a copy. I understand they only sell the footage of the newscast.
Very interested in hearing the president of the school board’s attitude, can anyone go into detail about that? Or into anything else that happened?
Jonah
April 11, 2007 5:47 PM
Know your School Board Members said...
The five-member, elected School Board is the statutory governing body for the school district.
The board is responsible for establishing overall direction and district policy.
Under state law, the board hires the district Superintendent.
Know your School Board Members
AND KNOW WHEN THEIR TERM EXPIRES.
We need honest compassionate people
that know what is just and unjust.
Not like this current crew:
District 5
Lisa Cour, PRESIDENT
Elected: February 4, 1997
Re-elected: March 12, 2001
Re-elected: Feb. 14, 2005
Term Expires: 2009
District 1
Don J. Schlichte, Member
Elected: March 12, 2001
Re-elected: Feb. 14, 2005
Term Expires: 2009
District 2
Marty Scharfglass, Vice President
Elected: February 4, 2003
Re-elected: February 6, 2007
Term Expires: 2011
District 3
Margaret M. Terry,
Secretary
Elected: March 12, 2001
Re-elected: Feb. 14, 2005
Term Expires: 2009
District 4
Divyesh N. Patel, Member
Elected: February 6, 2007
Term Expires: 2011
If they were JUST, they’d be the FIRST ones telling,
Dr. Cleveland that this decision was WRONG!
If you take offense to my sentiments about members of the board,
please know if they were truly genuine they would be the very first to get this changed with out anyone having to bat an eye or speak up.
That’s a fact
Jack
April 11, 2007 6:09 PM
call The Observer said...
Anyone that would like to give the Observer a story
please
encourage everyone you know to
call the Observer
892-8080
Betta
April 11, 2007 7:35 PM
Seniors 2007 said...
“NOW IS THE TIME
FOR ALL GOOD PEOPLE
TO COME TO THE AID
OF THEIR 2007 SENIORS”
April 11, 2007 7:43 PM
TO Dr. Sue Cleveland said...
In the winter of 99 I had a wonderful conversation with a young lady that was passionate about helping children-students-families.
What was most remarkable was she was dedicated to the task.
Sadly now I see and read about that same young lady embroiled in a controversial change.
So we don’t agree on where to hold graduation that I can live with.
It is the HOW that is being carried out and at any cost to keep it in Rio Rancho that causes me distress.
Dr. Susan Cleveland, take a look back 7-8 years when your heart was in the right place.
We all know it can be changed.
They are going to get your business sometime in the future anyway.
Change this back or put it to a vote.
Sincerely again,
Thomas
April 11, 2007 7:52 PM
SENIORS 2007 said...
I Won’t Back Down
Well I won't back down
No I won't back down
You can stand me up at the gates of hell
But I won't back down
No I'll stand my ground, won't be turned around
And I'll keep this world from draggin me down
gonna stand my ground
... and I won't back down
(I won't back down...)
Hey baby, there ain't no easy way out
(and I won't back down...)
hey I will stand my ground
… and I won't back down
Well I know what's right, I got just one life
in a world that keeps on pushin me around
but I'll stand my ground
...and I won't back down
Hey baby, there ain't no easy way out
hey I won't back down
hey baby, there ain't no easy way out
hey I will stand my ground
and I won't back down
No I won't back down...
(thanks Tom)
April 11, 2007 8:10 PM
To Dr. Sue Cleveland said...
"I have not yet begun to fight"
2007 - SENIORS
April 11, 2007 8:20 PM
Calling ALL Seniors said...
Calling ALL Seniors, and the Class of 2008, 2009, 2010!
Take our graduation Back to The Pit!
THIS BAD DECISION AFFECTS ALL OF US!
Rio Rancho Students
April 11, 2007 9:28 PM
TO DR. V. SUE CLEVELAND said...
THERE ARE GREAT COMMENTS HERE.
DON’T READ SOME OF THEM.
READ ALL OF THEM.
THEY ARE ALL TO YOU.
GO BACK TO THE PIT.
OR LET US VOTE.
Samuel
April 11, 2007 9:33 PM
Mayor to Hold Town Hall Meeting said...
PWELLS@ci.rio-rancho.nm.us
Mayor Kevin M. Jackson to Hold Town Hall
For Immediate Release
April 5, 2007
RIO RANCHO, NM - Rio Rancho Mayor Kevin M. Jackson will hold his first town
hall meeting on Thursday, April 12, 2007 from 7:00PM to 8:00PM in the
Governing Body Chambers located in Rio Rancho City Hall.
Mayor Jackson will provide updates regarding the recently concluded New
Mexico State Legislative Session and information about the City's new
Central Business District. Mayor Jackson will also address questions that
are submitted by the audience.
"I encourage residents to attend this town hall meeting. Two-way
communication between citizens and government is critical. I believe this
town hall meeting will provide a unique opportunity to hear from residents
regarding issues relevant to our City as well as providing valuable updates
to the community," said Mayor Jackson.
The town hall meeting will be open to the public. For more information
residents may call 505-896-8727 or via e-mail at
feedbackform@ci.rio-rancho.nm.us
Peter Wells
Communications & Civic Outreach
Division Manager
City of Rio Rancho
3900 Southern Blvd SE
Rio Rancho, NM 87124
Office (505) 896-8727
Fax (505) 891-5205
Cell (505) 220-6078
April 12, 2007 8:11 AM
2007 Senior said...
"I think we're going to keep pushing this until the week before graduation,"
"YOU GO GIRL!"
April 12, 2007 11:04 AM
2007 SENIORS said...
When we chronicle RRPS, the 2007 GRADUATION will be remembered that Mr. Duncan, Mr. VonAncken, Lisa Cour, Dr. Sue Cleveland, Mayor Jackson and the Observer played the starring roles.
The great thing is there is a growing “paper trail” to confirm the horrible down and dirty comments all in the newspaper.
WE were ridiculed for not having our facts right and for voicing legitimate concerns. Yet, every time you read or hear the news, their story changes or their facts are wrong.
What happened to
FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHTS,
CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS,
DEMOCRACY
and ALL
that AMERICA stands for?
Aren’t these the very things our SOLDIERS are at WAR for right this second?
How can everyone mentioned here DISMISS these critical points?
April 12, 2007 1:28 PM
TODAY Town Hall Meeting said...
PWELLS@ci.rio-rancho.nm.us
Mayor Kevin M. Jackson to Hold Town Hall
For Immediate Release
April 5, 2007
RIO RANCHO, NM - Rio Rancho Mayor Kevin M. Jackson will hold his first town
hall meeting on Thursday, April 12, 2007 from 7:00PM to 8:00PM in the
Governing Body Chambers located in Rio Rancho City Hall.
Mayor Jackson will provide updates regarding the recently concluded New
Mexico State Legislative Session and information about the City's new
Central Business District. Mayor Jackson will also address questions that
are submitted by the audience.
"I encourage residents to attend this town hall meeting. Two-way
communication between citizens and government is critical. I believe this
town hall meeting will provide a unique opportunity to hear from residents
regarding issues relevant to our City as well as providing valuable updates
to the community," said Mayor Jackson.
The town hall meeting will be open to the public. For more information
residents may call 505-896-8727 or via e-mail at
feedbackform@ci.rio-rancho.nm.us
Peter Wells
Communications & Civic Outreach
Division Manager
City of Rio Rancho
3900 Southern Blvd SE
Rio Rancho, NM 87124
Office (505) 896-8727
Fax (505) 891-5205
Cell (505) 220-6078
April 12, 2007 5:22 PM
echarles1234@aol.com said...
If you are against the move to return to THE PIT, email echarles1234@aol.com with your comments.
Thank you
April 12, 2007 8:22 PM
GREAT NEWS said...
GREAT NEWS
THE PIT still available 5/19
I called The UNM PIT today,
IT IS TRUE THE PIT STILL OPEN on 05/19/07
Please tell everyone this is far from over.
It beckons us to return
Andrew
April 12, 2007 8:33 PM
SKYBOXES said...
Who gets the Skyboxes?
April 12, 2007 8:34 PM
Our family supports said...
Our family supports the return of the 2007 graduation to The Pit
Vivian
April 12, 2007 8:40 PM
Rio Rancho Hillbillies said...
"Corporate Partners"
Come and listen to a story about a woman named Sue
A poor mountaineer, barely kept her staff at school,
Then one day she was shootin’ at some food,
And up through the ground came up somethin’ crude.
"Corporate Partners" that is, fools gold, excess tea.
Y'all come back now, y'hear?.
RE: The Observer newspaper (April and August Fools)
Santa Ana Website, declares that the OBSERVER is "Corporate Partners", with guess who?
BOTH the casino and the center!
Kissin’ cousins!
They have not done an actual news report on a parent that is against the graduation change?
Both the Journal and Tribune interviewed parents.
Then how come our very own newspaper in our city has not interviewed anyone?
List of "Corporate Partners" of The Santa Ana Star Center:
SANTA ANA STAR CASINO
THE RIO RANCHO OBSERVER
99.3 KOB FM
770 KKOB
Mew Mexico's CW
Perfection Honda
JohnnyBoards LLC
First Community Bank
Qwest
Crystal Springs
O'Hare's Grille & Pub / Hot Tamales
Rio Rancho Printing
April 12, 2007 9:08 PM
Rio Rancho Hillbillies said...
Well the first thing you know ol Sue doesn’t care,
Kinfolk said "Sue move away from there"
Said "Star Center is the place you ought to fill"
So they loaded up the truck and moved back up the hill.
Hills, that is. April fools, “Corporate Pards”
"Corporate Pards" of The Santa Ana Star Center:
SANTA ANA STAR CASINO
THE RIO RANCHO OBSERVER
99.3 KOB FM
770 KKOB
Mew Mexico's CW
Perfection Honda
JohnnyBoards LLC
First Community Bank
Qwest
Crystal Springs
O'Hare's Grille & Pub / Hot Tamales
Rio Rancho Printing
April 12, 2007 9:22 PM
Rio Rancho Hillbillies said...
Well now its time to say good by to Sue and Vonakin.
And they would like to thank you folks fer kindly droppin in.
You're all invited back a gain to this locality
To have a heapin helpin of their hospitality
Rio Rancho Hillybilly that is. Set a spell, Take your shoes off.
Y'all come back now, y'hear?
April 12, 2007 9:27 PM
CAN U BELIEVE IT said...
CAN U BELIEVE IT?
THERE ARE FAMILIES WITH SISTERS, BROTHERS, GRANDPARENTS, COUSINS, RELATIVES AND LOVED ONES THAT ARE IN THE MILITARY OR ARE VETERANS AND FOUGHT FOR OUR FREEDOM IN CURRENT AND PAST WARS!
DEFENDERS OF AMERICA AND ALL THAT WE STAND FOR!
BUT WILL NOT GET TO GO TO THIS GRADUATION BECAUSE OF AN ILLEGAL DECISION!
SAY WHAT U SAY, THE DECISION DID NOT ALLOW INPUT BY EVERYONE DIRECTLY AFFECTED, THE SENIORS AND FAMILIES OF 2007.
CAN U BELIEVE IT?
WE KNOW WORLD WAR II, KOREAN WAR, VIETNAM, GULF WAR, AFGHANISTAN AND IRAQ VETERANS THAT WILL NOT BE ALLOWED TO GO!
BUT IF THE GRADUATION WAS AT THE PIT THEY COULD GO WITHOUT ANY RESTRICTIONS.
MIKE
April 12, 2007 9:46 PM
matches malone said...
i'll see ya' all at 1
April 12, 2007 9:46 PM
President Lisa Cour said...
RRPS & President Lisa Cour said,
“To the 2007 Graduating Class”
After 12-13 years of working towards graduating, we hoped you have learned.
We hoped you have learned to discriminate and impose your will on others.
Especially, don't use anything we taught you about "Democracy", rather, “do as I say, not as I do” is a much more advantageous edict.
Bottom line, President Lisa Cour said, "Life has its little disappointments and we deal with it". Too bad so sad, because you have to deal with it. I'm not sure why Sue broke down and admitted to any wrong doing, because I'm telling you all to "deal with it".
You should cater to our wishes our demands no matter how many are unfairly treated and WILL LOSE MONEY due to travel plans and other purchases, "My (decision) should be a sire-level decision as to where to have the high school graduation (and) was approved by the administration and this one is (also) supported by the board”.
So you see we ALL are in cahoots on this one even the Mayor has helped.
Further, I can talk down and be condescending and disrespectful to anyone of you and at any time, "deal with it".
To RRPS and Lisa Cour,
We are
AMERICANS
not
ameri-can'ts!
All I am saying is this,
R U AN AMERI-CAN
OR
AN AMERI-CAN'T?
…..That is all I am asking.
”Nana”
April 13, 2007 7:11 AM
Attn: Dr. Cleveland and Lisa Cour said...
Dr. Cleveland and Lisa Cour,
Your "sire-level decision" is discriminatory!
Your apology Dr. Cleveland falls way short, it does not even begin to heal the injury you have caused to thousands! You need to return the graduation to the Pit.
Lisa Cour, I am very aware of the disrespectful manner you have addressed people with. WE the tax paying voters should have had input in this "sire-level decision", but your arrogance explains your decision, the problems and this weak apology for a tremendous wrong to seniors and families. You expose yourself with your explanation.
Jeanne
April 13, 2007 10:21 AM
To Cleveland Cour Jackson said...
“Absolute power corrupts”.Not everyone was allowed to have a voice in this decision that were most affected.Both families and graduates without a doubt have been discriminated against, additionally, any 10 years olds and under according to Mr. Herron.Only those at the "sire-level” that wanted it in Rio Rancho.It is truly disgusting how pompous and blind those in charge of our children are?How true that “only those that "griped, whined and were "greedy" the very loudest” were allowed input”.
“Absolute power corrupts, absolutely”!
Kris
April 13, 2007 12:33 PM
"sire-level decision" said...
WE the TAX PAYING VOTERS should have had input in this "sire-level decision".
Put it another way, if you did, no one at RRPS would have to apologize, right?
You running around getting the Mayor to help you cover your tracks as you try to create more seats is ridiculous.
It confirms how WRONG your "sire-level decision" is.
The “proof is in the proverbial pudding” Sue, Lisa, Kevin, Richard, Gary.
Donald
April 13, 2007 1:02 PM
Anonymous said...
BULL SQUAT,
Sorry for my Texas accent but what else could I write to let you know how messed up this is?
Dr. Cleveland the mayor and Lisa “I’m better then you” Cour are ALL full of it!
I sure as hell don’t subscribe to "sire-level decision" thinking!
I was taught “of the people, by the people, for the people", you all must have ditched that day?
Hell, "sire-level decision", that’s something right out of a dictator’s handbook!
GET REAL!
Scott
April 13, 2007 1:38 PM
Resign Dr. Cleveland right now! said...
I am very upset over how this entire matter has been handled from top to bottom! I don’t want to curse here but I am completely ANGRY! Business is business the buck stops with Dr. Cleveland. If she can’t open her eyes and see the harm done, she needs to resign her position. Name that school after someone that deserves it. Those punk lackey writers in the newspaper are dumber and dumber THEY DO NOT TELL ME HOW TO RAISE MY CHILDREN, EVER!!! NOR DO THEY TELL ME MY 10 YEAR OLD CAN’T COME SEE THEIR BROTHER GRADUATE! I HAVE VOTED EVERYTIME A VOTE WAS NEEDED! HOW DARE THEY LUMP ME IN WITH PERSONS THEY FEEL ARE NEGLIGENT! RETIRE HERRON AND RYANS OR CHANGE YOUR OCCUPATION. HERRON HOW COME YOU OR YOUR NEWSPAPER HAS NOT INTEVIEWED A FAMILY AGAINST THIS DECISION? WHERE THE HELL IS ACTION JACKSON IN ALL THIS? OH, AND THE RANTER IN THE NEWSPAPER, YOU MAKE ME SICK HOW “AMERICAN” YOU THINK YOU ARE! SPELL THIS B-I-G-O-T, I KNOW YOU’RE ONE BECAUSE I’M WHITE LIKE YOU FOOL!
Lynn
April 13, 2007 4:20 PM
Call Yvette 994-9648 said...
We have the Hard Copy paper PETITION please call me and I will meet you to get it signed. Please pass my number to other families thank you.
April 13, 2007 4:21 PM
"of the people, by the people, for the people" said...
“that we here highly resolve that these dead shall not have died in vain--that this nation, under God, shall have a new birth of freedom--and that government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth."
April 13, 2007 4:43 PM
IMUS said...
Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary,
I learned and I was wrong. I hope you learn your lesson too. Hey, wrong is wrong. y'all need to do the right thing and I mean pronto. I didn't say Tonto, I said pronto. What I said was discrimination what you are doing is discrimination. And Gary….you really said 10 year olds can’t go? Gary, Gary, Gary…..tisk….
Don
April 13, 2007 5:45 PM
We few, we happy few, we band of brothers said...
The comments already placed on this blog sum up the entire matter. All we need now is a minor miracle that Sue Cleveland comes to her senses. Count me in to keep up the fight. How about it Sue, don’t you believe in miracles?
Barry
April 13, 2007 8:17 PM
For the Public said...
"The problem of power is how to achieve its responsible use, rather than its irresponsible and indulgent use- how to make people of power live for the public, rather than off the public."
April 13, 2007 8:52 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary, said...
"Fear not the path of truth for the lack of people walking on it."
2007 Seniors
April 13, 2007 9:25 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary, said...
“There are those who look at things the way they are, and ask why... I dream of things that never were and ask why not."
2007 Seniors
April 13, 2007 9:26 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary, said...
"Few men are willing to brave the disapproval of their fellows, the censure of their colleagues, the wrath of society. Moral courage is a rarer commodity than bravery in battle or great intelligence. Yet it is the one essential, vital, quality for those who seek to change a world which yields most painfully to change."
2007 Seniors
April 13, 2007 9:27 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary, said...
"Few will have the greatness to bend history; but each of us can work to change a small portion of events, and in the total of all those acts will be written the history of this generation ... It is from numberless diverse acts of courage and belief that human history is thus shaped. Each time a man stands up for an ideal, or acts to improve the lot of others, or strikes out against injustice, he sends forth a tiny ripple of hope, and crossing each other from a million different centers of energy and daring, those ripples build a current which can sweep down the mightiest walls of oppression and resistance."
2007 Seniors
April 13, 2007 9:28 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary, said...
"The church to which most of the white population belongs teaches apartheid as a moral necessity. A questioner declared that few churches allow black Africans to pray with the white because the Bible says that is the way it should be, because God created Negroes to serve. "But suppose God is black", I replied. "What if we go to Heaven and we, all our lives, have treated the Negro as an inferior, and God is there, and we look up and He is not white? What then is our response?" There was no answer. Only silence."
2007 Seniors
April 13, 2007 9:29 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary, said...
"Laws can embody standards; governments can enforce laws--but the final task is not a task for government. It is a task for each and every one of us. Every time we turn our heads the other way when we see the law flouted--when we tolerate what we know to be wrong--when we close our eyes and ears to the corrupt because we are too busy, or too frightened--when we fail to speak up and speak out--we strike a blow against freedom and decency and justice."
2007 Seniors
April 13, 2007 9:30 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
Know your School Board Members
The five-member, elected School Board is the statutory governing body for the school district.
The board is responsible for establishing overall direction and district policy.
Under state law, the board hires the district Superintendent.
Know your School Board Members
AND KNOW WHEN THEIR TERM EXPIRES.
We need honest compassionate people
that know what is just and unjust.
Not like this current crew:
District 5
Lisa Cour, PRESIDENT
Elected: February 4, 1997
Re-elected: March 12, 2001
Re-elected: Feb. 14, 2005
Term Expires: 2009
District 1
Don J. Schlichte, Member
Elected: March 12, 2001
Re-elected: Feb. 14, 2005
Term Expires: 2009
District 2
Marty Scharfglass, Vice President
Elected: February 4, 2003
Re-elected: February 6, 2007
Term Expires: 2011
District 3
Margaret M. Terry,
Secretary
Elected: March 12, 2001
Re-elected: Feb. 14, 2005
Term Expires: 2009
District 4
Divyesh N. Patel, Member
Elected: February 6, 2007
Term Expires: 2011
If they were JUST, they’d be the FIRST ones telling,
Dr. Cleveland that this decision was WRONG!
If you take offense to my sentiments about members of the board,
please know if they were truly genuine they would be the very first to get this changed with out anyone having to bat an eye or speak up.
That’s a fact
Jack
April 14, 2007 8:01 AM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
"Those who fail to know their history are doomed to repeat it"
"In every stage of these Oppressions We have Petitioned for Redress in the most humble terms: Our repeated Petitions have been answered only by repeated injury. A Prince whose character is thus marked by every act which may define a Tyrant, is unfit to be the ruler of a free people."
2007 Seniors
April 14, 2007 8:50 AM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
Families are praying for this decision to be resolved.
The fact is the local newspaper did take sides and continues to unfairly characterizes anyone that disagrees with this bad decision.
The fact is anyone that disagrees with the decision does not need to be ridiculed for thinking differently.
The fact is they should not be categorized as less American.
The fact is they had nothing to do with last years crowd.
The fact is they don’t need lessons on raising children from people who have a column in the newspaper.
Or lessons regarding what a cruel “woild” we live in, or “buck up.”
The fact is the newspapers should have their top reporter in the face of district office asking hard questions, like how come everyone was not allowed to voice their opinions, discrimination, “corporate partners”, etc?
The fact is regarding your “sire-level decision”, this is America, 8 to 10,000 people are not allowed to attend the graduation, plans had been made, money had already been spent.
The fact is only 2 months notice was given.
The fact is 45 to 60,000 people or more won’t be able to come over the next 4 years.
The fact is the mayor even said our high school will very soon have over 5000 students attending before Cleveland high is open.
Is there political pressure and by whom?
The fact is for sure the mayor is helping out along with local businesses to keep the decision intact.
Why did the principal get booed last year?
Will he get booed this year, it was his idea?
The fact is this is discrimination!
The fact is this does in fact affect our Hispanic families and anyone that needs over 6 tickets!
The fact is just because a family needs 50 tickets, this is not a bad thing, but you make it sound like it is.
The fact is not everyone needs 50 tickets.
The fact is they actually told families 10 years old and younger that they can’t celebrate. Yes they recommend that young people can’t see an event with their own eyes even though it is actually positive reinforcement.
The fact is please remember our state tops the charts in suicides and dropouts.
The fact is you literally called fellow “Ranchoans, whiners, greedy and to get over it.”
The fact is funny is funny but the April Fool’s deal was “underhanded and nasty” quoting the newspaper.
Families against this decision
April 14, 2007 2:26 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
"The fact is please remember our state tops the charts in suicides and dropouts"
So, the RRPS "sire-level decision", punishes seniors for a job well done, they did not dropout the made it, that is a wonderful accomplishment!
The RRPS "sire-level decision" is also stressing the hell out of families and the graduate!
Thank you "sire"!
Dara
April 14, 2007 4:15 PM
FIND A GOOD ATTORNEY! said...
Attention all families and 2007 graduates,
FIND A GOOD ATTORNEY!
Don't let them getaway with this because this will give them leverage over us for next year
2008 families
April 14, 2007 4:48 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
THE PRICE THEY PAID!
"The Fifty Six Men who Signed
the Declaration of Independence
Have you ever wondered what happened to the fifty-six men who signed the Declaration of Independence? Five signers were captured by the British as traitors, and tortured before they died. Twelve had their homes ransacked and burned. Two lost their sons serving in the Revolutionary Army; another had two sons captured. Nine of the fixity six fought and died from wounds or hardships of the Revolutionary War. They signed and they pledged their lives, their fortunes, and their sacred honor.
What kind of men were they?
Twenty-six were lawyers and jurists. Eleven were merchants, nine were farmers and large plantation owners; men of means, well educated. But they signed the Declaration of Independence knowing full well death would be the cost if captured. Carter Braxton of Virginia, a wealthy planter and trader, saw his ships swept from the seas by the British Navy. He sold his home and properties to pay his debts, and died in rags.
Thomas McKean was so hounded by the British that he was forced to move his family almost constantly. He served in the Congress without pay, and his family was kept in hiding. His possessions were taken from him, and poverty was his reward.
Vandals or soldiers looted the properties of Dillery, Hall, Clymer, Walton, Gwinnett, Heyward, Ruttledge, and Middleton.
At the battle of Yorktown, Thomas Nelson Jr. noted that the British General Cornwallis had taken over the Nelson home for his headquarters. He quietly urged General George Washington to open fire. The home was destroyed, and Nelson died bankrupt.
Francis Lewis had his home and properties destroyed. The enemy jailed his wife, and she died within a few months.
John Hart was driven from his wife's bedside as she was dying. Their thirteen children fled for their lives. His fields and his gristmill were laid to waste. For more than a year he lived in forests and caves, returning home to find his wife dead and his children vanished. A few weeks later he died from exhaustion and a broken heart.
Norris and Livingston suffered similar fates.
Such were the stories and sacrifices of the American Revolution. These were not wild-eyed, rabble-rousing ruffians. They were soft-spoken men of means and education.
They had security, but they valued liberty more. Standing tall, straight, and unwavering, they pledged: "For the support of this declaration, with firm reliance on the protection of divine providence, we mutually pledge to each other, our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor."
They gave you and me a free and independent America. The history books never told you a lot about what happened in the Revolutionary War. We didn't fight just the British. We were British subjects at that time and we fought our own government!
Some of us take these liberties so much for granted, but we shouldn't. So, take a few minutes this year while enjoying your 4th of July holiday and silently thank these patriots. It's not much to ask for the price they paid".
2007 SENIORS
April 14, 2007 5:37 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
DO YOUR HOMEWORK RRPS!
How many times have our seniors heard this in their lifetime,
"Do your homework"?
"They should have done their homework BEFORE a decision like this was made. They need to back up and ask every graduate what they want, and if the majority want it at THE PIT, they need to fix their mistake and move it back. They still have plenty of time. It needs to be resolved the right way, right away!"
2007 SENIORS
April 14, 2007 6:42 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
Civil suit or sue, Sue Cleveland
OK
HERE WE GO AGAIN
I’VE READ DIFFERENT PEOPLE QUESTIONING FACTS AND CREDIBILITY
WATCH OUT WHAT YOU WRITE OR SAY ETC
BE NICE OR DON’T BE NICE
DON’T DO THIS
DON’T DO THAT
ITS OVER
AND
SO ON AND SO FORTH
WELL SPORTS FANS
THEY HAVE PAINTED US INTO A CORNER
THEY ARE NOT GOING TO CHANGE
THEY ARE NOT GOING TO BE FAIR
THEY ARE NOT GOING TO LET ANYONE VOTE
I TOLD EVERYONE THIS WEEKS AGO
FOLKS,
GET SERIOUS
GET YOUR ATTORNEY OR FILE A CIVIL SUIT
Stan Lee
April 14, 2007 8:58 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
& To the "ranter",
Our SENIOR has three (3) generations of over 50 relatives,
including his parents and two (2) Brothers that all GRADUATED at “The Pit”.
All of those generations no longer live in NM, but we are a very close group.
We participate in Family Reunions and the turnout is huge.
Many others have already noted not to penalize large families and this is true.
We need a lot more then 6 or 8 tickets, we are sorry.
Now we have a “corporate partnered” venue to look forward to THAT IS JUST TOO SMALL.
We are all just talking in circles now
and I have read and heard enough evidence
to confirm the school’s decision is totally wrong and unfair.
Sorry, this inappropriate decision and how it is being forced upon everyone is way,
I mean way out of line.
Quoting others here,
“we have rights”,
“this is America”,
hell someone submitted the Declaration of Independence for goodness sake!?
But, they are all corrent!
Because there was no input from everyone,
no vote
and no Democracy,
it is much more like hypocrisy and dictatorship!
There are some classic rebuttals here I have really enjoyed reading them,
they all sing the same song when all is said and done.
In support to GO BACK TO THE PIT.
You are the “hypocrite” and so are those you feel you have to protect.
Go "little Johnny", you GO!!
AC
April 15, 2007 9:01 AM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
An editor and the administration all referred to the “many” that wanted this, what is the problem with putting this to a vote, right now?
You will all find out the actual “many” want this event at “The Pit”.
The actual “many” was actually only a handful of people at the “sire-level” and 13 persons from the RRPS council.
Then Cibola high school was blamed for last year.
Let us VOTE:
Our Seniors will have to revert back to their grade school days, you print up what 770 notes home with 2 boxes to check on the note - “The Pit” or no “Pit”, parents and guardians along with each Senior will vote.
Unlike the decree that has been imposed upon everyone, where only a certain “many” voices were heard and acted on, simply, that decision that act in itself is so very wrong and so very unfair, this is America right?
Call it what it is…..discrimination!
(The school Board is supposed to uphold the Constitution of the United States, just ask them).
Make sure you number each one of these notes that way they can be counted fairly.
Add a few lines so the Graduate and their Parent/Guardian can print and sign.
If you have a better idea, wonderful as long as the vote process is fair.
If the vote comes back no “Pit”, then the editor, the administration and the so called “many” had a finger on the pulse
and IF the vote comes back “The Pit” then Hallelujah! Times a wastin’!
with a little help from my friends & Dorothy
April 15, 2007 11:28 AM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
"OF THE PEOPLE, BY THE PEOPLE, FOR THE PEOPLE"
“THAT WE HERE HIGHLY RESOLVE THAT THESE DEAD SHALL NOT HAVE DIED IN VAIN--THAT THIS NATION, UNDER GOD, SHALL HAVE A NEW BIRTH OF FREEDOM--AND THAT GOVERNMENT OF THE PEOPLE, BY THE PEOPLE, FOR THE PEOPLE, SHALL NOT PERISH FROM THE EARTH."
2007 SENIORS AND FAMILIES
April 15, 2007 11:48 AM
Call Yvette 994-9648 said...
We have the Hard Copy paper PETITION
please call me and I will meet you to get it signed.
Please pass my number to other families thank you.
Call Yvette 994-9648
April 15, 2007 12:29 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
As learned in my English Class:
Half a league, half a league,
Half a league onward,
All to district office
Rode the six hundred.
'Forward, the Light Brigade!
Rode the six hundred.
Their's not to make reply,
Their's not to reason why,
Their's but to do and why:
Into district office
Rode the six hundred.
The Observer to right of them,
The Ryan’s to left of them,
VonAncken in front of them
Into the jaws
Into the mouth of RRPS
Rode the six hundred.
Honour the charge they made!
Honour the Light Brigade,
Noble six hundred!
(ALT)
2007 SENIORS
April 15, 2007 1:32 PM
Anonymous AGAIN said...
IF YOU FEEL YOU HAVE BEEN TREATED UNFAIR ABOUT THE SO CALLED DECISION MOVING THE GRADUATION TO THE SANTA ANA CENTER AND THEY WILL NOT LET YOU ALL VOTE THEN I AGAIN ENCOURAGE YOU TO FILE A CIVIL SUIT BEFORE IT IS TO LATE
April 15, 2007 1:45 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
RE: The Observer, Mike & Genie Ryan and anonymous ranters condemning anyone speaking out against this decision, this applies:
”Hate speech is a controversial term for speech intended to degrade, intimidate, or incite violence or prejudicial action against a person or group of people based on their race, gender, age, ethnicity, nationality, religion, sexual orientation, gender identity, disability, language ability, moral or political views, socioeconomic class, occupation or appearance (such as height, weight, and hair color). The term covers written as well as oral communication and some forms of behaviors in a public setting. It is also sometimes called antilocution and is the first point on Allport's scale which measures prejudice in a society.”
2007 SENIORS
April 15, 2007 4:20 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
While reading many of these comments, we agree 100% with the parent of 2006 SENIOR
"YES the district should have come up with a variety of options and make them available to the public, obtain feedback and base the decision on that feedback in combination with sound financial decisions (as well as access, parking, etc.).
YES the timing should have been better.
YES the district has not given the public a voice.
YES it should probably be moved back to the PIT for this year's graduation."
2007 SENIORS
April 15, 2007 4:49 PM
Anonymous said...
What I would like to know is what is the school board getting out of this. Are they realy paying for the Santa Ana Star Center or is the Santa Ana Star Center paying the school board? Is the school board getting a kick back on money that is greater than being able to go back to the pit.
April 15, 2007 6:22 PM
Anonymous said...
The school board, the mayor, Cleveland, Rio Rancho businesses, “corporate partners”, ALL benefit from the graduation being in RR.
I am very sick and tired, and literally sick over the newspaper’s attitude towards everyone that is questioning this discriminatory decision.
We have every right to question this decision; its affecting over 15,000 people and around 10,000 won’t be allowed to attend the graduation.
TV feeds, please….that’s crappy!
Dr. Cleveland hid out all through March until April Good Friday, and during that time the board pointed the finger at the administration.
The board president is still consistently rude, and the rest buried their heads in the sand.
RRPS did not let everyone provide input, no vote was allowed, 06 was rowdy and 07 gets the punishment, and every class from here on out gets punished too.
Plans were already made but Dr. Cleveland does not care!
Her apology should include allowing us graduating at The Pit.
If VonAncken, VonDuncan, VonHerron, whatever the right name is, I don’t know, were booed by the seniors last year, they need to investigate why that happened?
Where there’s smoke there’s fire, the problem is now all RRPS stinks because of a few people.
O. G.
April 15, 2007 6:36 PM
WHO Do VOODOO said...
RRPS and the mayor have a case of WHO DO VOODOO!
April 15, 2007 6:39 PM
Who do? Who do? said...
RRPS,
Who do?
Who do?
Who do you think your foolin'?
2007 PARENTS
April 15, 2007 6:41 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
Driving to the Star Center. After driving through Rio Rancho you will come to a 2 lane road Paseo del Volcan, you can ONLY access the Center from this 2 lane road, upon reaching the Center there is ONLY 1 way in and 1 way out when you leave.
If you have been following any of the other comments in the Observer, people have complained about the drive and the ability to enter and exit. Some stated, the just kept on going because traffic was backed up in both directions.
The Observer also said there was 4 ways in like The Pit has 4 ways in. They dogged us for not having our facts correct.
FYI, traffic WILL BE A PROBLEM
2007 SENIORS
April 15, 2007 9:09 PM
African Proverb: said...
"It takes a village to raise a child."
"But only LIMITED amount of that village is allowed to attend the child's graduation" S. Andrade
2007 SENIORS
April 15, 2007 9:50 PM
matches malone said...
i
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i'll see ya' all at 1
April 15, 2007 9:52 PM
FIND A GOOD ATTORNEY! said...
07
Attention all families and 2007 graduates,
FIND A GOOD ATTORNEY!
Don't let them getaway with this because this will give them leverage over us for next year
2008 Families
April 15, 2007 9:53 PM
FIND A GOOD ATTORNEY! said...
07
Attention all families and 2007 graduates,
FIND A GOOD ATTORNEY!
Don't let them getaway with this because this will give them leverage over us for next year
2008 Families
April 15, 2007 9:53 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary -- said...
07
When we chronicle RRPS, the 2007 GRADUATION will be remembered that Mr. Duncan, Mr. VonAncken, Lisa Cour, Dr. Sue Cleveland, Mayor Jackson and the Observer played the starring roles.
The great thing is there is a growing “paper trail” to confirm the horrible down and dirty comments all in the newspaper.
WE were ridiculed for not having our facts right and for voicing legitimate concerns. Yet, every time you read or hear the news, their story changes or their facts are wrong.
What happened to our
FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHTS,
CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS,
DEMOCRACY
and ALL
that AMERICA stands for?
Aren’t these the very things our SOLDIERS are at WAR for right this second?
How can you all just DISMISS these critical points?
2007 SENIORS
April 15, 2007 11:06 PM
Call Yvette 994-9648 said...
We have the Hard Copy paper PETITION
Please call me and I will meet you to get it signed.
Please pass my number to other families thank you.
Call Yvette 994-9648
April 16, 2007 9:53 AM
City of Vision said...
U R
Blinded by the lies!!
2007 SENIORS
April 16, 2007 2:04 PM
Prayin' said...
Hope Dr. Cleveland comes to her senses?
Bev
April 16, 2007 4:06 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
"if they were the least bit interested, they would have asked for input BEFORE they made the decision"
They were never interested at all. For sure THEY WERE ALL WRONG, THEIR DECISION WAS WRONG, otherwise Dr. Cleveland would have never apologized.
Laura
April 16, 2007 4:49 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
"I understand the chaos of organizing a high school graduation and inevitably someone is going to be less than happy about the result.
But to callously disregard the plans and wishes of multiple family members goes beyond any kind of administrative SNAFU.
Gradution ceremonies are ultimately about the achievements of the students and an opportunity for loved ones to celebrate those achievements.
For Rio Rancho to dismiss the concerns and outrage of family members is to disregard the spirit of the ceremony.
Isn't it obvious?
Do the right thing."
2007 SENIORS
April 16, 2007 6:23 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
.
The president of the school board is a real witch!
She has NO respect for parents or the students.
We must make it a point to let everyone know what a joke this is.
It is a “gool ol'” boy network at RRPS.
They are all stuck on themselves.
“What goes around comes around”
2007 SENIORS
April 16, 2007 6:42 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
I wanted to take this time to write everyone that was involved in this matter. I won’t be able to explain myself very well. I will just put down what is on my mind. Our family’s problem will be deciding who gets to go and who doesn’t. Ok, we all know this comes with the territory because of what has happened but the reality is, this is tough. Our son won’t be able to go if his grandfather goes. My dad won’t be able to go if his grandson goes. If you think this is an easy decision to make, it really is not. We are torn up over this choice. This really hurts…
April 16, 2007 7:40 PM
ANONYMOUS said...
I WANT ALL OF MY FAMILY AT MY GRADUATION!
MOM,
DAD,
SISTERS,
BROTHERS,
AUNTS,
UNCLES,
GRANDPARENTS
AND COUSINS.
DON'T MAKE ME CHOOSE WHO GETS TO GO AND WHO GETS TO STAY HOME.
WE ALL WANT TO CELEBRATE TOGETHER.
BACK TO THE PIT!
GRADUATES AND FAMILIES SHOULD HAVE HAD A CHOICE.
IT'S OUR GRADUATION.
NOT THE ADMINISTRATIONS!
April 16, 2007 7:58 PM
FIND A GOOD ATTORNEY! said...
07
Attention all families and 2007 graduates,
FIND A GOOD ATTORNEY!
Don't let them getaway with this because this will give them leverage over us for next year
2008 Families
April 17, 2007 8:43 AM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
Last year’s Graduation had a rowdy crowd from CIBOLA HIGH SCHOOL according to Sue Cleveland!
Parents were upset!
Please do not penalize the class of 2007 they cannot be blamed for last year.
2007 Seniors
April 17, 2007 9:41 AM
KNOCK! KNOCK! said...
Knock! Knock!
who's there?
PIT!
PIT who!
PITiful decision by the school to change the graduation!
2007 Seniors
April 17, 2007 11:02 AM
ORANGE said...
KNOCK! KNOCK!
Who's there?
ORANGE!
ORANGE who?
AREN’T YOU ALL GOING TO GO BACK TO THE PIT?
2007 Seniors
April 17, 2007 11:04 AM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
We fully support returning our graduation Back To The Pit.
2007 Seniors
April 17, 2007 12:27 PM
Anonymous said...
RRPS blatantly disregarded the rights, the plans and specifically persons with large families. Keep this going. What about Bill Richardson?
April 17, 2007 2:25 PM
bologna said...
BOLOGNA!!!
They can break the contract!
April 17, 2007 2:47 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
“Everyone has already heard the arguments for and against returning the graduation ceremony to The Pit so there’s no reason to spend a lot of time rehashing what’s already been said. The only issue left to be decided is what most of the parents want to do. We believe that most of the parents want the ceremony to be held in The Pit. So our only request is that you authorize a vote so that we can see what the parents want. If most of them want to hold the ceremony at the Star Center, then we should hold it at the Star Center; if most of the parents want to return to the Pit, then that’s what we should do. If you feel you can’t authorize a vote, then the only fair decision is to return the ceremony to The Pit given that the decision was made without sufficient public input.
Further, the decision to move the ceremony to the Star Center disproportionately inconveniences larger families, many of whom happen to be Hispanic.”
April 17, 2007 2:58 PM
Have a Heart said...
Dr. Cleveland,
Have a Heart
2007 Seniors
April 17, 2007 4:29 PM
HELP!!!! said...
HELP US Dr. Cleveland!
April 17, 2007 4:49 PM
Anonymous said...
Mr. Vonancken, Mrs. Cleveland, Mr. Jackson and the so-called think tank, the brain trust behind this debacle got it wrong.
April 17, 2007 5:18 PM
Jesus Take The Wheel said...
LORD HELP US!
April 17, 2007 6:37 PM
Scarecrow said...
“if I only had a brain”!
“Think Tank”
“Brain Trust”
I wish they had one
Decision is BAD from start to finish
April 17, 2007 8:13 PM
Anonymous said...
PLEASE REMEMBER, THE PRESIDENT OF THE SCHOOL BOARD WAS APPROACHED BY A CONCERNED PARENT ASKING WHY THIS DECISION WAS MADE WITHOUT FAIR INVOLVEMENT FROM THE STUDENTS, AND PARENTS ALIKE.
“HER ANSWER WAS LESS THAN CORDIAL AND SHE STATED THAT SHE MADE THE DECISION WITHOUT CONSULTING ANYONE BECAUSE SHE HAD THE AUTHORITY TO DO SO!”
NOT ONLY DO I FIND THIS HORRIBLY OFFENSIVE, BUT ALSO IT IS NOT EXACTLY CORRECT.
THE PRESIDENT AND SCHOOL BOARD MUST UPHOLD CONSTITUTIONAL GUIDELINES OF THE SCHOOL AND THE UNITED STATES!
ALONG WITH THE AUTHORITY THAT WE AS VOTERS ENTRUSTED THEM WITH.
THIS DECISION DID NOT REPRESENT WHAT EVERYONE WANTED.
THAT CLEARLY HAS BEEN PROVEN.
I THINK WE NEED TO SERIOUSLY RECONSIDER JUST HOW MUCH AUTHORITY WE SHOULD ALLOW THEM TO HAVE.
I ASSURE YOU THIS ISSUE WILL HAUNT ALL OF THEM FOR THE REST OF THEIR SHORT-LIVED POLITICAL CAREERS.
RIO RANCHO PARENTS AND CITIZENS WILL NOT ALLOW THIS OBVIOUS ABUSE OF TRUST AND POWER TO GO ON UNQUESTIONED OR UNCHALLENGED.
OUR CHILDREN ARE VERY DEAR TO US!
WE THOUGHT YOU UNDERSTOOD THAT?
April 17, 2007 8:40 PM
FIND A GOOD ATTORNEY! said...
07
Attention all families and 2007 graduates,
FIND A GOOD ATTORNEY!
Don't let them getaway with this because this will give them leverage over us for next year
2008 Families
April 18, 2007 6:33 AM
RE: FIND A GOOD ATTORNEY! said...
2008 is right, time is running out:
07
Attention all families and 2007 graduates,
FIND A GOOD ATTORNEY!
Don't let them getaway with this because this will give them leverage over us for next year
2008 Families
April 18, 2007 8:32 AM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
THIS IS TO: Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary,
Sue apologized but it still fits her, where is her integrity?
Lisa, wanted all graduates and family to know "life is tough" but it's not our fault, we make all the "sire-level" decisions like it or not!
Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary, this is you!
A man in a hot air balloon realized he was lost. He reduced altitude and spotted a woman below. He descended a bit more and shouted,” Excuse me, can you help? I promised a friend I would meet him an hour
ago, but I don't know where I am."
The woman below replied, "You are in a hot air balloon hovering approximately 30 feet above the ground. You are between 40 and 41 degrees north latitude and between 59 and 60 degrees west longitude."
"You must be an engineer," said the balloonist.
"I am," replied the woman. "How did you know?"
"Well," answered the balloonist, "everything you told me is technically correct, but I have no idea what to make of you, and the fact is I am still lost. Frankly, you've not been much help so far."
The woman below responded, "You must be in management."
"I am," replied the balloonist, "but how did you know?"
"Well," said the woman, "you don't know where you are or where you are going. You have risen to where you are, due to a large quantity of hot air. You made a promise which you have no idea how to keep, and you expect people beneath you to solve your problems. The fact is you are in exactly the same position you were in before we met, but now, somehow, it's my fault!"
April 18, 2007 8:50 AM
Call Yvette 994-9648 said...
We have the Hard Copy paper PETITION
Please call me and I will meet you to get it signed.
Please pass my number to other families thank you.
Call Yvette 994-9648
April 18, 2007 10:02 AM
Que Sera, "sire" said...
RRPS theme:
Que Sera, Sera....
Whatever will be, will be...
The future's not yours, you see...
Que "sire-level" decision...
Que Sera, Sera...
What will be, will be.
April 18, 2007 1:04 PM
The Pit said...
WE ARE STILL OPEN AND WILL TAKE YOU BACK RRPS
April 18, 2007 2:59 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
The seniors of the class of 2007 would like to acknowledge RRPS for:
Failing to listening to reason, for stressing us, for lying to us, for disregarding our celebration, for punishing us for something we did not do, for providing us with tacky announcements, for burdening our families with expenditures for travel, with discriminating against anyone with a large family, or large network, for telling us “the choice is yours”, but it never was, for a disrespectful board president, for a superintendent that claimed she knew all the reasons, but later after making things worse admitted to failing to know all the reasons, for a dishonest principal, for no help from the mayor, for making us have to choose who goes and who stays, for being dictators, for threatening families and students that spoke up, for telling us to get over it, for telling us life is hard get over it, for telling us we are greedy, for a BIG MESS!
April 18, 2007 4:24 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
Mr. VonAncken was booed last year?
Why did that happen?
April 18, 2007 7:40 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
WE ARE A PUBLIC HIGH SCHOOL, BUT YOU MADE THE GRADUATION PRIVATE.
April 18, 2007 7:42 PM
FIND A GOOD ATTORNEY! said...
07
Attention all families and 2007 graduates,
FIND A GOOD ATTORNEY!
Don't let them getaway with this because this will give them leverage over us for next year
2008 Families
April 19, 2007 6:39 AM
Anonymous said...
RRPS HAS NOT BEEN TRUTHFUL WITH RRHS STUDENTS AND THEIR FAMILIES!
THIS IS A PUBLIC HIGH SCHOOL!
BUT YOU INSIST ON HAVING A PRIVATE GRADUATION!
IT'S SO PRIVATE THAT EVEN THE FAMILIES OF THE GRADUATES ARE NOT WELCOME!
2007 SENIORS
April 19, 2007 8:35 AM
TO: History Lesson said...
HELLO HS,
I checked back again to see if you ever responded.
What else could you let us know about this?
April 19, 2007 9:17 AM
PIT is still available on 5/19 said...
ATTENTION BACK TO THE PIT,
This decision is the pitts!
I spoke to THE PIT, yes!
They still have May 19TH open!
They will not schedule anything on that day.
Cost for THE PIT = $7,800.00
Cost for the Center = $6,200.00
A seat at the Center costs more then a seat at THE PIT.
PASS IT ON!
monie
April 19, 2007 9:29 AM
2008, 2009, 2010 said...
THANK YOU BACK TO THE PIT!
April 19, 2007 1:21 PM
WEEKS AGO said...
WELL SPORTS FANS
THEY HAVE PAINTED US INTO A CORNER
THEY ARE NOT GOING TO CHANGE
THEY ARE NOT GOING TO BE FAIR
THEY ARE NOT GOING TO LET ANYONE VOTE
I TOLD EVERYONE THIS WEEKS AGO
April 19, 2007 2:16 PM
GET SERIOUS said...
FOLKS,
GET SERIOUS
GET YOUR ATTORNEY OR FILE A CIVIL SUIT
April 19, 2007 2:29 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
TO: Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary
WE DO SUPPORT THE INITIAL IDEA TO HAVE A GRADUATION HERE IN RIO RANCHO.
WE DO NOT SUPPORT CHANGING THIS YEAR’S GRADUATION WITHOUT ALLOWING EVERYONE TO HAVE INPUT IN THIS DECISION.
WE DO NOT SUPPORT HARMING THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE.
WE DO NOT SUPPORT VERBALLY DEGRADING THEM IN THE NEWSPAPER.
WE DO NOT SUPPORT DISCRIMINATING AGAINST THOUSANDS OF PERSONS WANTING TO SEE A GRADUATION.
WE DO NOT SUPPORT PUNISHING THE CLASS OF 2007 FOR SOMETHING THEY DID NOT DO.
2007 SENIORS
April 19, 2007 2:59 PM
Boycott! said...
Boycott!
April 19, 2007 5:42 PM
Anonymous said...
The decision was never fair. Contracts can be broken. Tremendous stress is being placed on families. The new Center is NOT cost effective. The newspaper comments are one-sided.
Graduates Against the Decision
April 19, 2007 7:05 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
Everything that we would have like to have said is right here. We would like thank everyone that spoke up. Too bad RRPS is not listening to a word we’re saying.
2007 SENIORS
April 19, 2007 7:57 PM
2007 SENIORS said...
TO: RRPS and Mayor Jackson and the Observer,
The seniors and families of THE CLASS of 2007 want you to always remember that you discriminated and punished us unfairly.
2007 SENIORS
April 19, 2007 9:20 PM
Call Yvette 994-9648 said...
We have the Hard Copy paper PETITION
Please call me and I will meet you to get it signed.
Please pass my number to other families thank you.
Call Yvette 994-9648
April 20, 2007 6:46 AM
FIND A GOOD ATTORNEY! said...
07
Attention all families and 2007 graduates,
FIND A GOOD ATTORNEY!
Don't let them getaway with this because this will give them leverage over us for next year
2008 Families
April 20, 2007 9:16 AM
Attn: Dr. Sue Cleveland/RRPS/Mr. Jackson said...
Dr. Cleveland and RRPS,
I believe we have our accurate facts listed here numerous times. So, like an echo, Dr. Cleveland, “it is NOT why you imposed your decision, IT IS HOW you imposed your decision.” I understand you actually took the time to meet with some parents. We all are coming from different points of view but agree on the main issues. I have read the different emails being passed along and I for one need you to understand I fortunately have secured some extra tickets. BUT THERE ARE FOUR FAMILY MEMBERS IN FROM OUT OF TOWN THAT WON’T BE ABLE TO ATTEND AND IT WAS NOT EASY HUSLTING DOWN THE EXTRA ONES EITHER, IT WAS A PAIN. My family won’t have enough there are many more families that also won’t. I want you to know it was VERY difficult figuring who got to go and who didn’t. That is where I agree with the comments calling this matter discrimination. The only reason I was able to secure those tickets is because of all the parents that I know, I really feel for the families that need extra tickets and don’t know as many people that I do. This makes their task all the more difficult. I heard you apologized; I have a much better suggestion, let US VOTE.
EACH SCHOOL BOARD MEMBER IS SWORN IN BY A JUDGE AND THEIR OATH OF SERVICE MAINTAINS THEY MUST UPHOLD THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES AS WELL AS THE SCHOOL'S, ISN'T THIS A DIRECT VIOLATION OF "DUE PROCESS", FAIR PROCESS, OR ANY EQUAL AND "GOOD FAITH" STANDARDS THAT ADHERE TO OUR CONSTITUTION AND WHAT THEY WERE FOUNDED ON? I HAVE PERSONALLY HEARD THAT DR. CLEVELAND IS "FAIR" AND WE ARE ABSOLUTELY COUNTING ON THAT IN THIS MATTER.
Shirley
April 20, 2007 11:43 AM
Seniors said...
2007 Seniors agree with Scott:
"BULL SQUAT,
Sorry for my Texas accent but what else could I write to let you know how messed up this is?
Dr. Cleveland the mayor and Lisa “I’m better then you” Cour are ALL full of it!
I sure as hell don’t subscribe to "sire-level decision" thinking!
I was taught “of the people, by the people, for the people", you all must have ditched that day?
Hell, "sire-level decision", that’s something right out of a dictator’s handbook!
GET REAL!"
Scott
April 20, 2007 1:12 PM
for the pit said...
Allow a vote or return our graduation, my announcements still have The Pit on them
April 20, 2007 2:54 PM
Wherefore and Why said...
“Then all at once it came to me, I saw the wherefore, and the reason why”
April 20, 2007 6:39 PM
Anonymous said...
RRPS, the newspaper, along with the mayor of our dear community have caused irreparable damage to thousands of people.
Families have already scheduled flights, planned and had taken time off.
No apology can comfort or justify their decision.
This celebration is for the seniors plain and simple.
This celebration is not a “sire-level” power play, it is families and loved ones being able to be there for their children.
Shame on all of you!
Wayne
April 20, 2007 6:46 PM
"Carpe Diem" said...
SEIZE THE TIME
April 20, 2007 6:55 PM
Posterity: said...
"You will never know how much it has cost my generation to preserve your freedom. I hope you will make good use of it."
Wrong decision Sue
April 20, 2007 7:04 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
"History is the sum total of things that could have been avoided."
April 20, 2007 7:45 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
Truly amazing how backward our fearless leaders are? What about the children, Rio Rancho? What about our children? Don’t forget what you did, we won’t.
April 20, 2007 7:46 PM
Neil said...
"This is one small step for a man, one giant leap for mankind."
Move forward RRPS not backward!
April 20, 2007 7:49 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
"Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it."
April 20, 2007 7:56 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
"A word to the wise ain't necessary - it's the stupid ones that need the advice."
You all were given terrible advice
April 20, 2007 8:06 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not 100% sure about the universe."
April 20, 2007 8:09 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
"The darkest places in hell are reserved for those who maintain their neutrality in times of moral crisis."
April 20, 2007 8:15 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
"Power tends to corrupt and absolute power corrupts absolutely."
April 20, 2007 8:16 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
"Always vote for principle, though you may vote alone, and you may cherish the sweetest reflection that your vote is never lost."
April 20, 2007 8:17 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
"Democracy is when the indigent, and not the men of property, are the rulers."
April 20, 2007 8:19 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
"Politics, it seems to me, for years, or all too long, has been concerned with right or left instead of right or wrong."
April 20, 2007 8:20 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
"Never let your sense of morals prevent you from doing what's right."
April 20, 2007 8:21 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
"Reporters thrive on the world's misfortune. For this reason they often take an indecent pleasure in events that dismay the rest of humanity."
April 20, 2007 8:26 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
"An educated person is one who has learned that information almost always turns out to be at best incomplete and very often false, misleading, fictitious, mendacious - just dead wrong."
April 20, 2007 8:27 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
"Usually, terrible things that are done with the excuse that progress requires them are not really progress at all, but just terrible things."
April 20, 2007 8:29 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
"So long as we have enough people in this country willing to fight for their rights, we'll be called a democracy."
April 20, 2007 8:31 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
"Politics:
A strife of interests masquerading as a contest of principles. The conduct of public affairs for private advantage."
April 20, 2007 8:35 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
"As you make your bed, so you must lie in it."
April 20, 2007 8:37 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
"Freedom means the opportunity to be what we never thought we would be."
April 20, 2007 8:38 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
"The most important political office is that of the private citizen."
April 20, 2007 8:40 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
"In a democracy, dissent is an act of faith."
April 20, 2007 8:44 PM
Call Yvette 994-9648 said...
We have the Hard Copy paper PETITION
Please call me and I will meet you to get it signed.
Please pass my number to other families thank you.
Call Yvette 994-9648
April 21, 2007 8:45 AM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
"arrogant oligarchy"
Oligarchy
1. a form of government in which all power is vested in a few persons or in a dominant class or clique; government by the few.
2. a state or organization so ruled.
3. the persons or class so ruling.
Sounds like "sire-level" mentality
April 21, 2007 2:13 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
"Those who stand for nothing fall for anything."
April 21, 2007 2:17 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
"I think there is one higher office than president and I would call that patriot."
April 21, 2007 2:19 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
"What luck for rulers, that men do not think."
April 21, 2007 2:20 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
"Force and fraud are in war the two cardinal virtues."
April 21, 2007 2:21 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
"We would all like to vote for the best man but he is never a candidate."
April 21, 2007 2:23 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
"Radical changes in world politics leave America with a heightened responsibility to be, for the world, an example of a genuinely free, democratic, just and humane society."
April 21, 2007 2:25 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
"My constituency is the desperate, the damned, the disinherited, the disrespected and the despised."
April 21, 2007 2:26 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
"Whenever a man has cast a longing eye on offices, a rottenness begins in his conduct."
April 21, 2007 2:27 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
"Whenever men take the law into their own hands, the loser is the law. And when the law loses, freedom languishes."
April 21, 2007 2:30 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
"Freedom of the press is guaranteed only to those who own one."
April 21, 2007 2:33 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
"Many politicians are in the habit of laying it down as a self-evident proposition that no people ought to be free till they are fit to use their freedom. The maxim is worthy of the fool in the old story who resolved not to go into the water till he had learned to swim."
April 21, 2007 2:35 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
"You have not converted a man because you have silenced him."
April 21, 2007 2:39 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
"I don't make jokes. I just watch the government and report the facts."
April 21, 2007 2:51 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
"Politics is the art of preventing people from taking part in affairs which properly concern them."
April 21, 2007 3:03 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
"A free America... means just this: individual freedom for all, rich or poor, or else this system of government we call democracy is only an expedient to enslave man to the machine and make him like it."
April 21, 2007 3:07 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
"To me, it seems a dreadful indignity to have a soul controlled by geography."
April 21, 2007 3:10 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
"From the equality of rights springs identity of our highest interests; you cannot subvert your neighbor's rights without striking a dangerous blow at your own."
April 21, 2007 3:12 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
"Fourscore and seven years ago our fathers brought forth on this continent, a new nation, conceived in Liberty, and dedicated to the proposition that all men are created equal."
April 21, 2007 3:14 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
"All the people like us are we, and everyone else is They."
April 21, 2007 3:17 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
"I have a dream that one day on the red hills of Georgia, the sons of former slaves and the sons of former slave owners will be able to sit together at the table of brotherhood."
April 21, 2007 3:19 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
"I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character."
April 21, 2007 3:20 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
"I believe in equality for everyone, except reporters."
April 21, 2007 3:24 PM
Call Yvette 994-9648 said...
2007, 2008, 2009, 2010:
We have the Hard Copy paper PETITION
Please call me and I will meet you to get it signed.
Please pass my number to other families thank you.
Call Yvette 994-9648
April 22, 2007 9:26 AM
My Graduation 2007 said...
My Graduation 2007
Class Ring - $400 (In Albuquerque)
Announcements/Cap & Gown - $200 (In Albuquerque)
Invitations - $150 (In Albuquerque)
Graduation pictures - $400 (In Albuquerque)
8 family members flying in - $3,600
Graduation party - $2,000
Having my entire family who encouraged me for the last 13 years celebrate with me at
THE PIT.....
PRICELESS!!!
April 22, 2007 12:25 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
THIS IS A HUGE ERROR WHICH WILL AFFECT ALL STUDENTS OUR FAMILIES OUR FRIENDS
2007 SENIORS
ps
THANK YOU FOR THIS BLOG SPOT!
April 22, 2007 9:44 PM
TO ALL SENIORS! said...
Have Faith in God, Believe in Yourself and Never Give Up on Your Dreams
"Be strong in the Lord and in his mighty power".
Ephesians 6:10 (NLT)
April 23, 2007 8:10 AM
Back to The Pit said...
The very recent decision to change graduation locations is having a very negative affect on our family. We have several family members that already scheduled time off and purchased airline tickets. This decision was not thought out very well, hence the mayor becoming involved along with tv monitors in place of being there in person, and the superintendent of schools apologizing for NOT taking everything into consideration.
Please return this matter to The Pit.
Sam
April 23, 2007 1:53 PM
SERIOUSLY… said...
SERIOUSLY…
SIMPLY, WHAT PRICE DO YOU PLACE ON A CELEBRATION OF LOVE AND LIFE?!
THE COST THE SAVINGS THAT MRS. CLEVELAND AND MR. VONANCKEN ALLUDE TO ABSOLUTELY DO NOT OUT WEIGH WHAT WILL BE COMPLETELY LOST!
YES, EVEN TO ATTEMPT TO PLACE A PRICE ON THIS ENTIRE PROCESS, CELEBRATION AND EVENT IS INAPPROPRIATE BECAUSE IT IS TRULY “PRICELESS”!
TO ARGUE THIS IMPORTANT POINT IS IGNORANCE AND….WELL….VERY WRONG.
April 23, 2007 7:25 PM
Anonymous said...
"You who are on the road
Must have a code that you can live by
And so become yourself
Because the past is just a good bye.
Teach your children well,
Their father's hell did slowly go by,
And feed them on your dreams
The one they picked, the one you'll know by.
Don't you ever ask them why, if they told you, you would cry,
So just look at them and sigh and know they love you.
And you, of tender years,
Can't know the fears that your elders grew by,
And so please help them with your youth,
They seek the truth before they can die.
Teach your parents well,
Their children's hell will slowly go by,
And feed them on your dreams
The one they picked, the one you'll know by.
Don't you ever ask them why, if they told you, you would cry,
So just look at them and sigh and know they love you."
April 23, 2007 8:10 PM
FIND A GOOD ATTORNEY! said...
07
Attention all families and 2007 graduates,
FIND A GOOD ATTORNEY!
Don't let them getaway with this because this will give them leverage over us for next year
2008 Families
April 23, 2007 9:19 PM
Families said...
It is really not about the change it is about our children. It is about failing to invoke democracy and allowing seniors and families to have a say in the matter.
April 24, 2007 1:18 PM
BIG TIME! said...
RRPS,
Man o man you really messed up BIG TIME!
April 24, 2007 6:52 PM
something or other said...
"my wonderment starts when you open your eyes
you take your very first breath, I see your abdomine rise
since we were itty-itty-bitty, we've been running together
from something or other, our hearts always beat louder"
April 24, 2007 8:43 PM
Call Yvette 994-9648 said...
2007, 2008, 2009, 2010:
We have the Hard Copy paper PETITION
Please call me and I will meet you to get it signed.
Please pass my number to other families thank you.
Call Yvette 994-9648
April 24, 2007 8:44 PM
$7,500 said...
The Star Center is going to cost us taxpayers, RRPS more then The Pit!
They said it would cost less?
They lied
Arnold
April 25, 2007 10:11 AM
To Dr. Cleveland said...
“Racism is still real – It is a power that gives specific people, groups or camps different access to opportunities and resources. Your decision has created advantages that disproportionately channels power and resources away from the seniors and families of this year’s graduating class.”
April 25, 2007 12:31 PM
40,000 PEOPLE said...
"REMEMBER THIS DECISION WILL AFFECT ALL GRADUATING SENIORS, THEIR FAMILIES AND LOVED ONES OVER THE NEXT 4 YEARS OR UNTIL THE NEW SCHOOL IS OPEN!"
YES, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010 WILL ALL BE AFFECTED!
THAT IS EASILY OVER 40,000 PEOPLE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ATTEND BUT WON'T BE ALLOWED!
BECAUSE EVERY YEAR WILL BE BIGGER THEN THE PREVIOUS YEAR!
Make sure you PASS this on!
Call Yvette 994-9648
April 25, 2007 2:26 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
“Everyone has already heard the arguments for and against returning the graduation ceremony to The Pit so there’s no reason to spend a lot of time rehashing what’s already been said. The only issue left to be decided is what most of the parents want to do. We believe that most of the parents want the ceremony to be held in The Pit. So our only request is that you authorize a vote so that we can see what the parents want. If most of them want to hold the ceremony at the Star Center, then we should hold it at the Star Center; if most of the parents want to return to the Pit, then that’s what we should do. If you feel you can’t authorize a vote, then the only fair decision is to return the ceremony to The Pit given that the decision was made without sufficient public input.
Further, the decision to move the ceremony to the Star Center disproportionately inconveniences larger families, many of whom happen to be Hispanic.”
April 25, 2007 4:18 PM
YIPPIEEE!! said...
THEY LIED!
THEY BARELY JUST SIGNED THE CONTRACT!
THEY CAN BREAK THE SO CALLED CONTRACT!
DON’T BELIEVE IT WHEN THEY TELL YOU THEY CAN’T!
BECAUSE THEY ACTUALLY CAN!
AND,
THE PIT IS STILL OPEN FOR BUSINESS ON MAY 19TH!
YIPPIEEE!!
April 25, 2007 4:35 PM
take it back said...
Take it back Sue,
Adam
April 25, 2007 8:11 PM
Anonymous said...
WE WOULD LIKE TO BE ALLOWED TO VOTE.
RRPS IS DENYING US THIS OPPORTUNITY.
OUR COUNTRY IS FOUNDED ON DEMOCRACY AND THIS IS IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION.
LET US VOTE.
“OF THE PEOPLE, BY THE PEOPLE, FOR THE PEOPLE"
April 26, 2007 10:59 AM
Roy said...
WE WOULD LIKE TO BE ALLOWED TO VOTE.
RRPS IS DENYING US THIS OPPORTUNITY.
OUR COUNTRY IS FOUNDED ON DEMOCRACY AND THIS IS IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION.
LET US VOTE.
“OF THE PEOPLE, BY THE PEOPLE, FOR THE PEOPLE"
April 26, 2007 11:02 AM
Sharon said...
WE WOULD LIKE TO BE ALLOWED TO VOTE.
RRPS IS DENYING US THIS OPPORTUNITY.
OUR COUNTRY IS FOUNDED ON DEMOCRACY AND THIS IS IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION.
LET US VOTE.
“OF THE PEOPLE, BY THE PEOPLE, FOR THE PEOPLE"
April 26, 2007 11:03 AM
Tony said...
WE WOULD LIKE TO BE ALLOWED TO VOTE.
RRPS IS DENYING US THIS OPPORTUNITY.
OUR COUNTRY IS FOUNDED ON DEMOCRACY AND THIS IS IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION.
LET US VOTE.
“OF THE PEOPLE, BY THE PEOPLE, FOR THE PEOPLE"
April 26, 2007 11:03 AM
Rick said...
WE WOULD LIKE TO BE ALLOWED TO VOTE.
RRPS IS DENYING US THIS OPPORTUNITY.
OUR COUNTRY IS FOUNDED ON DEMOCRACY AND THIS IS IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION.
LET US VOTE.
“OF THE PEOPLE, BY THE PEOPLE, FOR THE PEOPLE"
April 26, 2007 11:56 AM
Eddie said...
WE WOULD LIKE TO BE ALLOWED TO VOTE.
RRPS IS DENYING US THIS OPPORTUNITY.
OUR COUNTRY IS FOUNDED ON DEMOCRACY AND THIS IS IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION.
LET US VOTE.
“OF THE PEOPLE, BY THE PEOPLE, FOR THE PEOPLE"
April 26, 2007 12:01 PM
Gene said...
WE WOULD LIKE TO BE ALLOWED TO VOTE.
RRPS IS DENYING US THIS OPPORTUNITY.
OUR COUNTRY IS FOUNDED ON DEMOCRACY AND THIS IS IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION.
LET US VOTE.
“OF THE PEOPLE, BY THE PEOPLE, FOR THE PEOPLE"
April 26, 2007 12:07 PM
Chris said...
“OF THE PEOPLE, BY THE PEOPLE, FOR THE PEOPLE"
April 26, 2007 12:51 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
"A city cannot rise any higher than the level of its leaders”
April 26, 2007 3:14 PM
“Where have you gone Joe DiMaggio”? said...
As I understand it, RRPS had opposition for the very first graduation.
Certain persons did not want the graduation to be held outside of RR city limits. Thank goodness some of the SCHOOL BOARD members had the insight & foresight to realize the graduating class was so big they had to hold it at a venue larger then the high school gym. So they held it in Johnson Gym.
Then certain SCHOOL BOARD members realized that THE PIT would have to be used just due to the sheer numbers of the graduating class and family and loved ones in attendance.
Thank you, past SCHOOL BOARD members!
This entire crew today along with their think tank could learn a thing or two from you.
“Where have you gone Joe DiMaggio”?
Now we are going backwards and disregarding our seniors and their families, even though this is the largest graduating class in our school’s history. It is much bigger then the first two graduations and one of the biggest in the state this year. The future holds even bigger graduating classes to come.
Other city dwellers in RR, had advised our leaders that the Star Center is “too small”, for a long list of different activities.
So obviously it is too small for this year's graduation.
The decision is wrong, the effort is wasted, the timing was horrendous, the TV feeds are not the same as the real thing.
An important aspect in all of this is that those first SCHOOL BOARD members did not put their positions, interests, ego’s, power or thinking first. They put our children first, the way it should be.
GOD BLESS YOU.
April 26, 2007 4:05 PM
They put our children first said...
“OF THE PEOPLE, BY THE PEOPLE, FOR THE PEOPLE"
"A city cannot rise any higher than the level of its leaders”
“Where have you gone Joe DiMaggio”? said...
As I understand it, RRPS had opposition for the very first graduation.
Certain persons did not want the graduation to be held outside of RR city limits. Thank goodness some of the SCHOOL BOARD members had the insight & foresight to realize the graduating class was so big they had to hold it at a venue larger then the high school gym. So they held it in Johnson Gym.
Then certain SCHOOL BOARD members realized that THE PIT would have to be used just due to the sheer numbers of the graduating class and family and loved ones in attendance.
Thank you, past SCHOOL BOARD members!
This entire crew today along with their think tank could learn a thing or two from you.
“Where have you gone Joe DiMaggio”?
Now we are going backwards and disregarding our seniors and their families, even though this is the largest graduating class in our school’s history. It is much bigger then the first two graduations and one of the biggest in the state this year. The future holds even bigger graduating classes to come.
Other city dwellers in RR, had advised our leaders that the Star Center is “too small”, for a long list of different activities.
So obviously it is too small for this year's graduation.
The decision is wrong, the effort is wasted, the timing was horrendous, the TV feeds are not the same as the real thing.
An important aspect in all of this is that those first SCHOOL BOARD members did not put their positions, interests, ego’s, power or thinking first. They put our children first, the way it should be.
GOD BLESS YOU.
2007 FAMILIES AND SENIORS
April 26, 2007 4:24 PM
Call Yvette 994-9648 said...
2007, 2008, 2009, 2010:
We have the Hard Copy paper PETITION
Please call me and I will meet you to get it signed.
Please pass my number to other families thank you.
Call Yvette 994-9648
April 27, 2007 8:19 AM
Anonymous said...
"Politics is the art of preventing people from taking part in affairs which properly concern them."
April 27, 2007 2:26 PM
No savings at all said...
No savings at all!!!
The Center will end up costing more the THE PIT!!
They said they would be saving money, the won't be!
SERIOUSLY… said...
SERIOUSLY…
SIMPLY, WHAT PRICE DO YOU PLACE ON A CELEBRATION OF LOVE AND LIFE?!
THE COST THE SAVINGS THAT MRS. CLEVELAND AND MR. VONANCKEN ALLUDE TO ABSOLUTELY DO NOT OUT WEIGH WHAT WILL BE COMPLETELY LOST!
YES, EVEN TO ATTEMPT TO PLACE A PRICE ON THIS ENTIRE PROCESS, CELEBRATION AND EVENT IS INAPPROPRIATE BECAUSE IT IS TRULY “PRICELESS”!
TO ARGUE THIS IMPORTANT POINT IS IGNORANCE AND….WELL….VERY WRONG.
April 28, 2007 10:26 AM
Families and Graduates said...
The RRPS decision will hurt graduation for the next four years.
We will need families most affected to sign the PETITION,
call Yvette at 994-9648
2007, 2008, 2009, 2010:
We have the Hard Copy paper PETITION
Please call me and I will meet you to get it signed.
Please pass my number to other families thank you.
Call Yvette 994-9648
April 28, 2007 11:22 AM
no vision said...
The City of Vision has been blinded by the LIES!
Stephen
April 28, 2007 12:48 PM
Wake up little Susie! said...
She is still asleep
Anonymous said...
So who's going to wake up little Susie?
April 28, 2007 2:19 PM
THE PIT said...
Keep passing the word along The Pit is still available.
April 28, 2007 5:57 PM
"little Johnny" said...
There are a number of people, both here and in the press, who keep dragging "little Johnny," a graduating senior, along with his family, into this mess.
After enduring the callous, condescending remarks, and lack of common courtesy, Little Johnny woke up the other morning and got his blog on!
http://littlejohnnyinriorancho.blogspot.com/
April 29, 2007 1:17 PM
IS IT TRUE? said...
Is it true Mr. VonAncken always tells students in his speeches “the choice is yours” but the reality is.....not this time?
April 29, 2007 9:04 PM
Families and Graduates said...
The RRPS decision will hurt graduation for the next four years.
We will need families most affected to sign the PETITION,
call Yvette at 994-9648
2007, 2008, 2009, 2010:
We have the Hard Copy paper PETITION
Please call me and I will meet you to get it signed.
Please pass my number to other families thank you.
Call Yvette 994-9648
April 30, 2007 7:53 AM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
Seniors and Families,
"Always vote for principle, though you may vote alone, and you may cherish the sweetest reflection that your vote is never lost."
April 30, 2007 7:30 PM
M said...
I did not read every comment posted yet, so if someone already said this better, then at least good thinkers see eye to eye, hah.
This is a case of “THE GLASS IS HALF FULL OR THE GLASS IS HALF EMPTY”,
I do agree with all the reasons, logic and merits to have the graduation in Rio Rancho.
But…..I also agree with every single reason THE CLASS OF 2007 SHOULD HAVE STAYED AT THE PIT.
Plain and simple, the decision and how it was enforced was WRONG!!
Mario
April 30, 2007 8:36 PM
Never again in our lifetime said...
At Three minutes and Four seconds after 2 AM on the 6th of May This Year,
the time and date will be 02:03:04 05/06/07.
This will Never happen again in our lifetime.
April 30, 2007 8:42 PM
We are not enemies said...
~ We are not enemies,
But friends.
We must not be enemies.
Though passion may have strained
It must not break our bonds of affection.
The mystic chords of memory . . .
. . . Will yet swell
When again touched,
As surely they will be,
By the better Angels of our Nature ~
April 30, 2007 8:57 PM
NEED TICKETS PLEASE said...
NEED TICKETS PLEASE!
IF ANYONE HAS ANY EXTRA GRADUATION TICKETS THEY DO NOT NEED PLEASE EMAIL ME AT
acharles7591@aol.com
Thanks to this decision, I really hate having to choose which family member can go and who can't.
As everyone has to do that will not have enough tickets.
Thank you,
May 1, 2007 11:26 AM
CLASS OF 2007 said...
we was robbed!!!
May 1, 2007 12:26 PM
My Graduation 2007 said...
My Graduation 2007
Class Ring - $400 (In Albuquerque)
Announcements/Cap & Gown - $200 (In Albuquerque)
Invitations - $150 (In Albuquerque)
Graduation pictures - $400 (In Albuquerque)
8 family members flying in - $3,600
Graduation party - $2,000
Having my entire family who encouraged me for the last 13 years celebrate with me at
THE PIT.....
PRICELESS!!!
May 1, 2007 8:33 PM
Anonymous said...
NEED TICKETS PLEASE said...
NEED TICKETS PLEASE!
IF ANYONE HAS ANY EXTRA GRADUATION TICKETS THEY DO NOT NEED PLEASE EMAIL ME AT
acharles7591@aol.com
Thanks to this decision, I really hate having to choose which family member can go and who can't.
As everyone has to do that will not have enough tickets.
Thank you,
May 2, 2007 5:54 AM
GOD BLESS YOU said...
They put our children first said...
“OF THE PEOPLE, BY THE PEOPLE, FOR THE PEOPLE"
"A city cannot rise any higher than the level of its leaders”
“Where have you gone Joe DiMaggio”? said...
As I understand it, RRPS had opposition for the very first graduation.
Certain persons did not want the graduation to be held outside of RR city limits. Thank goodness some of the SCHOOL BOARD members had the insight & foresight to realize the graduating class was so big they had to hold it at a venue larger then the high school gym. So they held it in Johnson Gym.
Then certain SCHOOL BOARD members realized that THE PIT would have to be used just due to the sheer numbers of the graduating class and family and loved ones in attendance.
Thank you, past SCHOOL BOARD members!
This entire crew today along with their think tank could learn a thing or two from you.
“Where have you gone Joe DiMaggio”?
Now we are going backwards and disregarding our seniors and their families, even though this is the largest graduating class in our school’s history. It is much bigger then the first two graduations and one of the biggest in the state this year. The future holds even bigger graduating classes to come.
Other city dwellers in RR, had advised our leaders that the Star Center is “too small”, for a long list of different activities.
So obviously it is too small for this year's graduation.
The decision is wrong, the effort is wasted, the timing was horrendous, the TV feeds are not the same as the real thing.
An important aspect in all of this is that those first SCHOOL BOARD members did not put their positions, interests, ego’s, power or thinking first. They put our children first, the way it should be.
GOD BLESS YOU.
2007 FAMILIES AND SENIORS
May 2, 2007 5:58 AM
Families and Graduates said...
The RRPS decision will hurt graduation for the next four years.
We will need families most affected to sign the PETITION,
call Yvette at 994-9648
2007, 2008, 2009, 2010:
We have the Hard Copy paper PETITION
Please call me and I will meet you to get it signed.
Please pass my number to other families thank you.
Call Yvette 994-9648
May 2, 2007 4:17 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
The seniors of the class of 2007 would like to acknowledge RRPS for:
Failing to listening to reason, for stressing us, for lying to us, for disregarding our celebration, for punishing us for something we did not do, for providing us with tacky announcements, for burdening our families with expenditures for travel, with discriminating against anyone with a large family, or large network, for telling us “the choice is yours”, but it never was, for a disrespectful board president, for a superintendent that claimed she knew all the reasons, but later after making things worse admitted to failing to know all the reasons, for a dishonest principal, for no help from the mayor, for making us have to choose who goes and who stays, for being dictators, for threatening families and students that spoke up, for telling us to get over it, for telling us life is hard get over it, for telling us we are greedy, for a BIG MESS!
May 2, 2007 4:29 PM
little johnny said...
RRPS has created a situation where the families of graduating seniors are made to feel like gate crashers.
Way to congratulate the graduates!
May 3, 2007 7:29 AM
Anonymous said...
NEED TICKETS PLEASE said...
NEED TICKETS PLEASE!
IF ANYONE HAS ANY EXTRA GRADUATION TICKETS THEY DO NOT NEED PLEASE EMAIL ME AT
acharles7591@aol.com
Thanks to this decision, I really hate having to choose which family member can go and who can't.
As everyone has to do that will not have enough tickets.
Thank you,
May 3, 2007 11:42 AM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
Everything that we would have like to have said is right here among all of these comments.
We would like thank everyone that spoke up.
Too bad RRPS is not listening to a word we’re saying.
2007 SENIORS
May 3, 2007 11:51 AM
Anonymous said...
Keep passing the word along The Pit is still available.
May 3, 2007 8:23 PM
Families and Graduates said...
The RRPS decision will hurt graduation for the next four years.
We will need families most affected to sign the PETITION,
call Yvette at 994-9648
2007, 2008, 2009, 2010:
We have the Hard Copy paper PETITION
Please call me and I will meet you to get it signed.
Please pass my number to other families thank you.
Call Yvette 994-9648
May 4, 2007 12:01 PM
"FEAR NOT" said...
.
"Fear not the path of truth for the lack of people walking on it."
May 4, 2007 4:27 PM
TO RRPS said...
Thank YOU.
Thank you for messing up the 2007 graduation.
I don't have enough tickets
Shawn
May 4, 2007 7:19 PM
NEED TICKETS PLEASE said...
NEED TICKETS PLEASE!
IF ANYONE HAS ANY EXTRA GRADUATION TICKETS THEY DO NOT NEED PLEASE EMAIL ME AT
acharles7591@aol.com
Thanks to this decision, I really hate having to choose which family member can go and who can't.
As everyone has to do that will not have enough tickets.
Thank you,
May 5, 2007 11:28 AM
America said...
from the Indians who welcomed the pilgrims
know your history
May 5, 2007 3:27 PM
49,000 PEOPLE said...
"REMEMBER THIS DECISION WILL AFFECT ALL GRADUATING SENIORS, THEIR FAMILIES AND LOVED ONES OVER THE NEXT 4 YEARS OR UNTIL THE NEW SCHOOL IS OPEN!"
YES, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010 WILL ALL BE AFFECTED!
THAT IS EASILY OVER 40,000 PEOPLE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ATTEND BUT WON'T BE ALLOWED!
BECAUSE EVERY YEAR WILL BE BIGGER THEN THE PREVIOUS YEAR!
Make sure you PASS this on!
Call Yvette 994-9648
May 5, 2007 4:43 PM
history said...
"Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it."
May 5, 2007 6:15 PM
wrong said...
Dr. Sue Cleveland,
you did us wrong,
2007 Seniors
May 6, 2007 3:08 PM
African Proverb: said...
Dr. Cleveland,
This was your motto at one time:
"It takes a village to raise a child."
Now it appears your motto is:
"But only LIMITED amount of that village is allowed to attend the child's graduation"
2007 SENIORS
May 6, 2007 5:33 PM
Come together said...
"Come together right now over me"
May 7, 2007 11:06 AM
NEED TICKETS PLEASE said...
NEED TICKETS PLEASE!
IF ANYONE HAS ANY EXTRA GRADUATION TICKETS THEY DO NOT NEED PLEASE EMAIL ME AT
acharles7591@aol.com
Thanks to this decision, I really hate having to choose which family member can go and who can't.
As everyone has to do that will not have enough tickets.
Thank you,
May 7, 2007 11:07 AM
CALL said...
"REMEMBER THIS DECISION WILL AFFECT ALL GRADUATING SENIORS, THEIR FAMILIES AND LOVED ONES OVER THE NEXT 4 YEARS OR UNTIL THE NEW SCHOOL IS OPEN!"
YES, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010 WILL ALL BE AFFECTED!
THAT IS EASILY OVER 49,000 to 59,000 PEOPLE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ATTEND BUT WON'T BE ALLOWED!
BECAUSE EVERY YEAR WILL BE BIGGER THEN THE PREVIOUS YEAR!
Make sure you PASS this on!
Call Yvette 994-9648
May 9, 2007 8:59 AM
HELP said...
NEED TICKETS PLEASE!
IF ANYONE HAS ANY EXTRA GRADUATION TICKETS THEY DO NOT NEED PLEASE EMAIL ME AT
acharles7591@aol.com
Thanks to this decision, I really hate having to choose which family member can go and who can't.
As everyone has to do that will not have enough tickets.
Thank you,
May 9, 2007 3:26 PM
Wrong said...
wrong decision Sue, you apologized, but when my children were little they thought they could apologize and that would correct or excuse their wrong. I had to additionally let them know, that sorry does not cut it. Depending on the circumstance and situation, an apology all by itself does not cut it, does not excuse the wrong.
Sue, sorry does not cut it.
May 10, 2007 9:06 AM
2008 said...
DON'T GIVE UP!!
May 10, 2007 9:06 PM
Families said...
CONGRATULATIONS CLASS OF 2007!
May 11, 2007 10:16 AM
Tickets said...
NEED TICKETS PLEASE!
IF ANYONE HAS ANY EXTRA GRADUATION TICKETS THEY DO NOT NEED PLEASE EMAIL ME AT
acharles7591@aol.com
Thanks to this decision, I really hate having to choose which family member can go and who can't.
As everyone has to do that will not have enough tickets.
Thank you,
May 12, 2007 12:50 PM
SCHOOL BOARD MEETING MONDAY MAY 14TH said...
SCHOOL BOARD MEETING MONDAY MAY 14TH
May 13, 2007 12:15 PM
Mothers said...
Dr. Cleveland anc RRPS,
Thank you for ruining the Class of 2007's GRADUATION.
We went to UNM's yesterday,
what a GREAT EVENT,
they went on and on about everyone coming, including FAMILY and FREINDS!
The speeches did not at all limit anyone from attending, they encouraged and welcomed diversity.
May 13, 2007 12:29 PM
"It takes a village to raise a child" said...
it does
May 14, 2007 3:07 PM
Nathan said...
Thank you to everyone that spoke up against this decision
May 14, 2007 6:14 PM
still need said...
NEED TICKETS PLEASE!
IF ANYONE HAS ANY EXTRA GRADUATION TICKETS THEY DO NOT NEED PLEASE EMAIL ME AT
acharles7591@aol.com
Thanks to this decision, I really hate having to choose which family member can go and who can't.
As everyone has to do that will not have enough tickets.
Thank you,
May 15, 2007 7:20 AM
2008, 2009, 2010 said...
CALL said...
"REMEMBER THIS DECISION WILL AFFECT ALL GRADUATING SENIORS, THEIR FAMILIES AND LOVED ONES OVER THE NEXT 4 YEARS OR UNTIL THE NEW SCHOOL IS OPEN!"
YES, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010 WILL ALL BE AFFECTED!
THAT IS EASILY OVER 49,000 to 59,000 PEOPLE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ATTEND BUT WON'T BE ALLOWED!
BECAUSE EVERY YEAR WILL BE BIGGER THEN THE PREVIOUS YEAR!
Make sure you PASS this on!
Call Yvette 994-9648
May 16, 2007 2:53 PM
"the choice" was not ours: said...
My Graduation 2007
Class Ring - $400 (In Albuquerque)
Announcements/Cap & Gown - $200 (In Albuquerque)
Invitations - $150 (In Albuquerque)
Graduation pictures - $400 (In Albuquerque)
8 family members flying in - $3,600
Graduation party - $2,000
Having my entire family who encouraged me for the last 13 years celebrate with me at
THE PIT.....
PRICELESS!!!
May 16, 2007 2:54 PM
no vote allowed said...
sorry 2007
May 16, 2007 2:55 PM
Sue's legacy said...
Dr. Cleveland,
As this matter unfolds,
more negative things occur, due to your change of location for graduation.
I will from now on be reminded of the 2007 graduation, when I hear your name.
May 17, 2007 9:59 AM
YES still need said...
NEED TICKETS PLEASE!
IF ANYONE HAS ANY EXTRA GRADUATION TICKETS THEY DO NOT NEED PLEASE EMAIL ME AT
acharles7591@aol.com
Thanks to this decision, I really hate having to choose which family member can go and who can't.
As everyone has to do that will not have enough tickets.
Thank you,
May 18, 2007 1:17 PM
done deal said...
Congrats 2007
May 20, 2007 10:15 PM
"the choice" was not ours: said...
My Graduation 2007
Class Ring - $400 (In Albuquerque)
Announcements/Cap & Gown - $200 (In Albuquerque)
Invitations - $150 (In Albuquerque)
Graduation pictures - $400 (In Albuquerque)
8 family members flying in - $3,600
Graduation party - $2,000
Having my entire family who encouraged me for the last 13 years celebrate with me at
THE PIT.....
PRICELESS!!!
It did not happen, 8 tickets was not enough, I had to pick and choose it honestly was horrible. The 8 that came thoroughly enjoyed the ceremony, I enjoyed them being there too, but I also thought about my family that were not allowed to come and I cried.
May 22, 2007 5:16 PM
2008, 2009, 2010 said...
"REMEMBER THIS DECISION WILL AFFECT ALL GRADUATING SENIORS, THEIR FAMILIES AND LOVED ONES OVER THE NEXT 4 YEARS OR UNTIL THE NEW SCHOOL IS OPEN!"
YES, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010 WILL ALL BE AFFECTED!
THAT IS EASILY OVER 49,000 to 59,000 PEOPLE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ATTEND BUT WON'T BE ALLOWED!
BECAUSE EVERY YEAR WILL BE BIGGER THEN THE PREVIOUS YEAR!
Make sure you PASS this on!
Call Yvette 994-9648
May 23, 2007 7:35 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
EVERYTHING THAT NEEDED TO BE SAID WAS SAID
WE THANK EVERYONE THAT SPOKE UP
TOO BAD RRPS DID NOT LISTEN
2007 SENIORS AND FAMILIES
May 25, 2007 11:00 AM
Dr. Cleveland once believed said...
Dr. Cleveland,
"It takes a village to raise a child."
Thank you for ruining our graduation
2007 SENIORS & FAMILIES
May 25, 2007 3:10 PM
sure we did not boo said...
we did not boo,
we have better tact
then those that did boo in 06,
we showed you we did not deserve to be penalized for their behavior,
if you noticed we did not clap for certain people either,
the observer still got it wrong,
you all got it wrong,
you all need to find out why the booed in 06,
you deserved it then,
you deserve it now
og
May 26, 2007 9:24 PM
We did not boo you said...
we did not boo you,
even though you deserved it,
we have better tact
then those that did boo you in 06,
we showed you we did not deserve to be penalized for their behavior,
if you noticed we did not clap for certain people either,
the observer still got it wrong,
you all got it wrong,
you all need to find out why they booed you in 06,
you deserved to be booed then,
you deserve to be booed now
og again
May 27, 2007 10:29 AM
2008, 2009, 2010 said...
"REMEMBER THIS DECISION BY RRPS WILL AFFECT ALL GRADUATING SENIORS, THEIR FAMILIES AND LOVED ONES OVER THE NEXT 4 YEARS OR UNTIL THE NEW SCHOOL IS OPEN!"
YES, NOW 2008, 2009, 2010 WILL ALL BE AFFECTED!
FROM 2007 IS EASILY OVER 49,000 to 59,000 PEOPLE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ATTEND BUT WON'T BE ALLOWED!
BECAUSE EVERY YEAR WILL BE BIGGER THEN THE PREVIOUS YEAR!
Make sure you PASS this on!
Call Yvette 994-9648
May 27, 2007 5:48 PM
2008 said...
BACK TO THE PIT!
May 28, 2007 8:35 PM
Anonymous said...
WE DID IT SENIORS!!!!
2007 RULES
May 29, 2007 12:49 PM
Anonymous said...
CONGRATULATIONS CLASS OF 2007!
May 30, 2007 7:32 PM
2008 said...
BACK TO THE PIT,
NOT TO THE CASINO!!
June 2, 2007 8:35 PM
Anonymous said...
back to The PIT in 08
June 3, 2007 10:43 AM
Santa Ana Star Center/Mayor said...
Mayor backed The Pit change
when we tried to get his help,
he was backing the move and Dr. Cleveland
Front Page of ABQ Journal
http://www.abqjournal.com/news/metro/568021metro06-03-07.htm
Sunday, June 3, 2007
Rio Rancho Pulls Mayor's Credit Card
By Sean Olson
Copyright © 2007 Albuquerque Journal; Journal Staff Writer
Rio Rancho city staff have revoked Mayor Kevin Jackson's city-issued credit card over nearly $8,000 in purchases primarily made at the Santa Ana Star Center for renting out suites, buying food and paying for concert tickets.
"It would be very difficult to determine a public purpose for just handing out tickets," interim city manager Jim Babin said Friday.
City Fiscal Services director Dick Kristof said Friday that Jackson's purchasing card— a city-issued credit card— was canceled May 17 and a new one has been issued to the city. The new card "is not available" to Jackson, Kristof said.
City spokesman Peter Wells said a city audit into the credit card records will continue.
Jackson's attorney, B.J. Crow, said Saturday that he has not seen any details to allegations against Jackson and has only one comment until he does.
"Mr. Jackson is adamant that no city funds have been misspent," Crow said.
Jackson has been out of town and has not returned Journal messages.
In a May 24 letter to his administrative assistant, Jackson claims he did not specifically ask for some of the entertainment charges to be put on the city's card.
"This past week, I was shown a bill for my credit card that had many charges on it that I did not make," the letter states.
His letter recommends changes that better track expenditures for travel and the event center, and requests a monthly report on all expenses from the mayor's budget.
He also said in the letter that he realizes that his administrative assistant is "often put in a position to charge something based on calls from others for tickets, events, etc. especially when others say that the Mayor said so or this is official business."
Memo stated concerns
All of the questionable purchases appeared on the monthly summary of purchasing that Jackson signed.
Babin sent a memo to Jackson on May 18— a day after Jackson's card was canceled— outlining concerns that city personnel had raised over Jackson's purchasing habits throughout the year.
"Again, we are not authorized to expend public funds to purchase tickets in order to give them to other people, including City or State employees, unless there is an official city function being hosted— one which has a defined benefit to the city as a whole," the memo said.
The memo also questioned "various lunches" and one purchase for $11 worth of alcohol. City policy does not allow public funds to be spent on alcohol.
Jackson signed a card holder agreement in March 2006 for the credit card that outlines the rules of using the card.
The agreement states "under no circumstances will I use the Purchasing Card to make personal purchases."
City records show that Jackson on May 24— after his credit card had been revoked— reimbursed the city for about $600 of the $8,000 questioned.
It was to refund $216 worth of Moody Blues tickets, $184 for refreshments at the concert and about $200 worth of food from Sal E Boys Pizza in Rio Rancho and Chili's Grill, according to a memo sent to city staff from Jackson's administrative assistant.
Among other purchases that raised concerns included:
April transactions for about $2,600 worth of tickets and refreshments for concerts, New Mexico Scorpions playoff tickets and a business dinner with new city manager Jim Payne.
March transactions of about $1,100 worth of Santa Ana Star Center purchases.
February transactions of about $1,900 in tickets— including $1,600 worth for Willie Nelson tickets.
November transactions of $1,281 for travel and events center tickets.
Babin said that Jackson has been asked to justify the use of the credit card for those transactions and others but that he has not heard from him on the issue.
"If they were for private purchases, he would have to reimburse us," Babin said.
Check fraud alleged
Jackson is already facing an investigation by a U.S. Inspector General over allegations that he misspent federal grant funds while running his former nonprofit, New Mexico Family Council— Best Choice.
And Family Council officials say that they filed a report with the Rio Rancho Department of Public Safety on Thursday alleging that Jackson committed check fraud.
Family Council officials have also sent a demand letter to Jackson for a refund of at least two trips.
City records show that two trips made by the mayor— one to Fort Meyers, Fla., from Nov. 2-5, and another to Baltimore from March 18-21— were charged to the city credit card.
Family Council officials have said their records show that Jackson was reimbursed by that organization for those trips, as well.
Meanwhile, Jackson has had large increases in his mayor's budget in comparison to former mayors.
All of the Santa Ana Star Center charges fall under the "other costs" portion of the mayor's budget. Traditionally, that portion of the budget has been set at $500 a year.
Jackson's "other costs" budget has been increased to $9,600 through the fiscal year, which ends June 30, using transfers from other line items in the mayor's budget.
The total mayor's budget has increased about $18,000— to $83,000. Of that, about $69,000 has been spent.
Travel costs have gone above originally budgeted levels and an increase of about $8,500 has been added this year.
Jackson, who started the Family Council in 2001 and managed it until three weeks ago, was fired amid allegations of "mismanagement" of federal grant funds, including giving himself a raise from $62,000 to $85,000 without board of directors or grant administrator consent.
The Family Council also cited questionable travel expenses and unauthorized donations to other nonprofits as reasons for the firing.
June 3, 2007 11:38 AM
Anonymous said...
action jackson,
say it ain't so!
June 3, 2007 8:23 PM
Anonymous said...
Mayor,
chickens have come home to roost
June 4, 2007 2:39 PM
2008, 2009, 2010 said...
"REMEMBER THIS DECISION BY RRPS WILL AFFECT ALL GRADUATING SENIORS, THEIR FAMILIES AND LOVED ONES OVER THE NEXT 4 YEARS OR UNTIL THE NEW SCHOOL IS OPEN!"
YES, NOW 2008, 2009, 2010 WILL ALL BE AFFECTED!
FROM 2007, NOW EASILY
OVER 49,000 to 59,000 PEOPLE
THAT WOULD LIKE TO ATTEND BUT WON'T BE ALLOWED!
BECAUSE EVERY YEAR WILL BE BIGGER THEN THE PREVIOUS YEAR!
Make sure you PASS this on!
Call Yvette 994-9648
June 4, 2007 3:47 PM
Anonymous said...
To Mayor J. and Dr. Cleveland,
what comes around goes around
June 4, 2007 6:10 PM
Anonymous said...
Sue Cleveland,
back to the pit
June 5, 2007 8:37 AM
2008 said...
we want the PIT
June 5, 2007 2:12 PM
liar liar pants on fire said...
Action Jackson and the super you both lied
June 6, 2007 4:59 PM
Anonymous said...
Hasta la vista Baby!
June 6, 2007 8:30 PM
go back said...
TO THE PIT!!
The casino was not that good,
big deal they had my name in lights,
so what,
my grandparents could not go!
I'd rather have family there not my name in lights
07Senior
June 7, 2007 11:53 AM
Anonymous said...
2008 Families, we want to go back to the PIT
June 7, 2007 2:56 PM
Anonymous said...
The mayor backed the WRONG horse and so did rrps.
RRPS families
June 7, 2007 3:25 PM
GO RAMS!!! said...
ROCK THE PIT AGAIN!
June 7, 2007 9:03 PM
Gary put his foot in his mouth said...
Gary Herron is completely out of line with his philosophy regarding who can and who can’t attend graduations.
Please make sure you send this out to everyone in your email address book, every Blog space, every "my space" location, hey, even share it with strangers you pass on the street.
I just read this in the newspaper and then a comment about it here on the Blog.
I don’t want to say anything mean spirited here but this needs to be passed on.
Also, run down the article in the Observer’s 3/25/07 Sunday issue and read all of it.
Part of BLOG COMMENT:
Gary, you actually wrote 10 year olds and under “should have stayed home”?
I don’t want to have my figures wrong or did you mean, 9 year olds and under “should have stayed home”?
I hope your foot is not that big?
I hope your quote gets passed around to every mother and father across this country.
May I respectfully ask you, who are you to discriminate against age?
(Perhaps I should count my blessing you don’t have S. Cleveland, R. Von Ancken and B. Duncan’s position)
I wonder now Gary, were you part of the think tank to get the decision through? Just asking.
June 8, 2007 8:04 AM
2008 said...
“BACK TO THE PIT
FAMILY AND FRIENDS OF RIO RANCHO HIGH SCHOOL GRADUATES DISCUSSION GROUP”
After reading your blogs, newspaper stories, and the newscasts, Dr. Cleveland we want the 2008 graduation at THE PIT, thank you.
June 8, 2007 9:09 AM
505 said...
The Pit
June 8, 2007 6:33 PM
Anonymous said...
2008 wants to go Back To The Pit
June 9, 2007 10:52 AM
2008, 2009, 2010 said...
"REMEMBER THIS DECISION BY RRPS WILL AFFECT ALL GRADUATING SENIORS, THEIR FAMILIES AND LOVED ONES OVER THE NEXT 4 YEARS OR UNTIL THE NEW SCHOOL IS OPEN!"
YES, NOW 2008, 2009, 2010 WILL ALL BE AFFECTED!
INCLUDING THE CLASS OF 2007,
NOW EASILY
OVER 49,000 to 59,000 PEOPLE
THAT WOULD LIKE TO ATTEND
WON'T BE ALLOWED TO ATTEND!
BECAUSE EACH YEAR EACH CLASS WILL BE BIGGER THEN THE PREVIOUS YEAR!
Make sure you PASS this on!
Call Yvette 994-9648
June 9, 2007 12:05 PM
Santa Ana Star Center/Mayor said...
The Mayor backed The Pit change
when we tried to get his help,
he was backing the move and Dr. Cleveland
From the Front Page of ABQ Journal
http://www.abqjournal.com/news/metro/568021metro06-03-07.htm
Sunday, June 3, 2007
Rio Rancho Pulls Mayor's Credit Card
By Sean Olson
Copyright © 2007 Albuquerque Journal; Journal Staff Writer
Rio Rancho city staff have revoked Mayor Kevin Jackson's city-issued credit card over nearly $8,000 in purchases primarily made at the Santa Ana Star Center for renting out suites, buying food and paying for concert tickets.
"It would be very difficult to determine a public purpose for just handing out tickets," interim city manager Jim Babin said Friday.
City Fiscal Services director Dick Kristof said Friday that Jackson's purchasing card— a city-issued credit card— was canceled May 17 and a new one has been issued to the city. The new card "is not available" to Jackson, Kristof said.
City spokesman Peter Wells said a city audit into the credit card records will continue.
Jackson's attorney, B.J. Crow, said Saturday that he has not seen any details to allegations against Jackson and has only one comment until he does.
"Mr. Jackson is adamant that no city funds have been misspent," Crow said.
Jackson has been out of town and has not returned Journal messages.
In a May 24 letter to his administrative assistant, Jackson claims he did not specifically ask for some of the entertainment charges to be put on the city's card.
"This past week, I was shown a bill for my credit card that had many charges on it that I did not make," the letter states.
His letter recommends changes that better track expenditures for travel and the event center, and requests a monthly report on all expenses from the mayor's budget.
He also said in the letter that he realizes that his administrative assistant is "often put in a position to charge something based on calls from others for tickets, events, etc. especially when others say that the Mayor said so or this is official business."
Memo stated concerns
All of the questionable purchases appeared on the monthly summary of purchasing that Jackson signed.
Babin sent a memo to Jackson on May 18— a day after Jackson's card was canceled— outlining concerns that city personnel had raised over Jackson's purchasing habits throughout the year.
"Again, we are not authorized to expend public funds to purchase tickets in order to give them to other people, including City or State employees, unless there is an official city function being hosted— one which has a defined benefit to the city as a whole," the memo said.
The memo also questioned "various lunches" and one purchase for $11 worth of alcohol. City policy does not allow public funds to be spent on alcohol.
Jackson signed a card holder agreement in March 2006 for the credit card that outlines the rules of using the card.
The agreement states "under no circumstances will I use the Purchasing Card to make personal purchases."
City records show that Jackson on May 24— after his credit card had been revoked— reimbursed the city for about $600 of the $8,000 questioned.
It was to refund $216 worth of Moody Blues tickets, $184 for refreshments at the concert and about $200 worth of food from Sal E Boys Pizza in Rio Rancho and Chili's Grill, according to a memo sent to city staff from Jackson's administrative assistant.
Among other purchases that raised concerns included:
April transactions for about $2,600 worth of tickets and refreshments for concerts, New Mexico Scorpions playoff tickets and a business dinner with new city manager Jim Payne.
March transactions of about $1,100 worth of Santa Ana Star Center purchases.
February transactions of about $1,900 in tickets— including $1,600 worth for Willie Nelson tickets.
November transactions of $1,281 for travel and events center tickets.
Babin said that Jackson has been asked to justify the use of the credit card for those transactions and others but that he has not heard from him on the issue.
"If they were for private purchases, he would have to reimburse us," Babin said.
Check fraud alleged
Jackson is already facing an investigation by a U.S. Inspector General over allegations that he misspent federal grant funds while running his former nonprofit, New Mexico Family Council— Best Choice.
And Family Council officials say that they filed a report with the Rio Rancho Department of Public Safety on Thursday alleging that Jackson committed check fraud.
Family Council officials have also sent a demand letter to Jackson for a refund of at least two trips.
City records show that two trips made by the mayor— one to Fort Meyers, Fla., from Nov. 2-5, and another to Baltimore from March 18-21— were charged to the city credit card.
Family Council officials have said their records show that Jackson was reimbursed by that organization for those trips, as well.
Meanwhile, Jackson has had large increases in his mayor's budget in comparison to former mayors.
All of the Santa Ana Star Center charges fall under the "other costs" portion of the mayor's budget. Traditionally, that portion of the budget has been set at $500 a year.
Jackson's "other costs" budget has been increased to $9,600 through the fiscal year, which ends June 30, using transfers from other line items in the mayor's budget.
The total mayor's budget has increased about $18,000— to $83,000. Of that, about $69,000 has been spent.
Travel costs have gone above originally budgeted levels and an increase of about $8,500 has been added this year.
Jackson, who started the Family Council in 2001 and managed it until three weeks ago, was fired amid allegations of "mismanagement" of federal grant funds, including giving himself a raise from $62,000 to $85,000 without board of directors or grant administrator consent.
The Family Council also cited questionable travel expenses and unauthorized donations to other nonprofits as reasons for the firing.
June 9, 2007 12:06 PM
Anonymous said...
2008 WILL ROCK THE PIT.....
June 9, 2007 12:44 PM
1217 said...
Anonymous said...
Kool!
March 16, 2007 1:27 PM
Anonymous said...
Do Rio Rancho Parents have no rights!!!!!!!?????????
Is their anyone else out there that wants to invite their extended relatives to their son or daughters graduation? Please, who has only 6 relatives to invite, unless you only have one kid, no aunts?
Uncles, cousins and only one set of grandparents then yes you are fine. But what about the graduates that have 2 sets of grandparents, 12 brothers and sisters and their wives or husbands, their kids and their other aunts and uncles on the other side. We have always supported our nieces, nephews, cousins, grandchildren and want to when she/he graduates and accepts her/his diploma. Why should we not be allowed to go see them graduate and feel their excitement that they are finally finished with one chapter in their life.
March 16, 2007 2:21 PM
Anonymous said...
Yeahh to the RR BLOG!!!
March 16, 2007 2:42 PM
ET said...
Who had the right to change the graduation ceremony from The Pit to the Santa Ana Star Center without everyone’s input?!
Doesn't the graduating class of 2007 have a say in where they want to celebrate this great achievement that they have worked so hard for, 13 long years, and this is how they are treated as if they do not matter?!!
Where is our governor, our mayor, our leaders of this community that are supposed to help and support our young citizens? Don’t they matter?
They are the VISION of Rio Rancho and by what you do for them in this situation will impact them. Please show them they matter by speaking up and changing the ceremony “back to The Pit”. If you need be go to the school and ask them what they want, contact all of the families then that would be fair.
I know that many are VERY STRESSED about this situation and how they will decide who can or can't go see them receive their diploma. What a shame that it had to come to this with everything else they have to be concerned about along with their finals.
I know this isn’t the first email you have received asking for this change and it won’t be the last! Please think how you would feel if it were your son, daughter, niece, nephew, grandson or granddaughter? Would you be doing more if it was????
March 16, 2007 4:20 PM
2007 SENIOR said...
http://rioranchogradsunite.blogspot.com/
!!!!!!!!!!!!!ATTENTION SENIORS!!!!!!!!!!!!
· PLEASE CONTACT http://rioranchogradsunite.blogspot.com/ or email: cmj2nc@aol.com TODAY!
· CALL RRPS DISTRICT TODAY IF YOU OR YOUR PARENTS ARE CONCERNED ABOUT GRADUATION BEING CHANGED TO THE SANTA ANA STAR CENTER (896-0667 SUPERINTENDENT & SCHOOL BOARD).
· TELL THEM YOU WANT IT AT “THE PIT”
· MAKE SURE YOUR PARENTS KNOW YOUR GRADUATION ANNOUNCEMENTS WILL STILL SAY “THE PIT” ON THE ANNOUNCEMENT BUT THERE WILL BE AN INSERT STATING THE CHANGE (HOW TACKY) YOU CAN STILL GET A REFUND.
· REMEMBER THERE IS ONLY ONE LANE ENTERING AND ONE LANE LEAVING THE CENTER IMAGINE THE MESS FOR BOTH STUDENTS AND PARENTS HAVING TO DRIVE THERE.
· WE SHOULD HAVE A SAY IN WHERE WE WANT TO GRADUATE; REMEMBER SENIORS IN THE WORDS OF OUR PRINCIPAL “THE CHOICE IS YOURS!!!!!!!!!!”
March 16, 2007 4:32 PM
MEDIA said...
EMAIL THEM:
schoolboard@rrdo.rrps.k12.nm.us, nmiqgovima@state.nm.us, robert.sjostrand@jostens.com, theobserver@rrobserver.com, news@rrobserver.com, wduncan@rrhs.rrps.k12.nm.us, dnsimmons@rrhs.rrps.k12.nm.us, district@rrdo.rrps.k12.nm.us, opinion@abqjournal.com, kvesely@rrdo.rrps.k12.nm.us, target7@thenewmexicochannel.com, news@kobtv.com, sandrade@hearst.com, dick.knipfing@krqe.com, erika.ruiz@krqe.com, krqesoundoff@krqe.com, cizaguirre@hearst.com, mmaez@hearst.com, mgarofalo@hearst.com, jjojola@kobtv.com, administration@ci.rio-rancho.nm.us, cmj2nc@aol.com, mayor@ci.rio-rancho.nm.us, PStephenson@rrhs.rrps.k12.nm.us, mhartranft@abqjournal.com, romero@rrhs.rrps.k12.nm.us, asweet@rrhs.rrps.k12.nm.us, parentconnect@rrdo.rrps.k12.nm.us, Arteche@rrhs.rrps.k12.nm.us, DKelly@rrhs.rrps.k12.nm.us, pivy@rrhs.rrps.k12.nm.us, plopez@rrhs.rrps.k12.nm.us, aeveleth@rrhs.rrps.k12.nm.us, Dobson@rrhs.rrps.k12.nm.us, Moreno@rrhs.rrps.k12.nm.us, rgalindo@rrhs.rrps.k12.nm.us, Simmons@rrhs.rrps.k12.nm.us, barbour@rrhs.rrps.k12.nm.us, yvalencia@rrhs.rrps.k12.nm.us, Romero@rrhs.rrps.k12.nm.us, webmaster@rrdo.rrps.k12.nm.us, vonancken@rrhs.rrps.k12.nm.us, service@Jostens.com, rmartinez@abqjournal.com, sspalding@kobtv.com, rdereyes@kobtv.com, van.tate@krqe.com, SStucker@kobtv.com, JLucas@kobtv.com, mike.powers@krqe.com, Roland.Glembine@krqe.com, annie.mccormick@krqe.com, jen.jackson@krqe.com, bill.diven@krqe.com, cornelas@kobtv.com, cmahoney@kobtv.com, adarveaux@kobtv.com, jmaher@kobtv.com, gschwartz@kobtv.com, aantonio@kobtv.com, ekahnert@kobtv.com, nbrady@kobtv.com, jvigil@kobtv.com, caragon@kobtv.com, tjoles@kobtv.com, KOBWebmaster@kobtv.com, edreher@rrdo.rrps.k12.nm.us, kkobam@citcomm.com, Talkradiojim@aol.com, ebriseno@abqjournal.com, barmijo@abqjournal.com, editor@abqtrib.com
March 16, 2007 4:37 PM
Max & Joan said...
Max and Joan agree 100%
OUR PURPOSE
Whatever the merits of moving the Rio Rancho High School graduation ceremony to the Santa Ana Star Center in Rio Rancho, the decision should have been made before rather than after families had begun planning. Extended family members have already made travel plans and requested vacation times in anticipation of attending the ceremony for which they may not now get tickets. It is apparent there was not enough public deliberation about this issue. A decision affecting the entire school population should have been discussed publicly so that all voices were heard prior to the decision, particularly since the number of seats available to family and friends of the graduates has been reduced by more than two thirds. Please join us in moving the graduation ceremony back to The Pit. Sign the Petition by adding a comment to the open thread.
March 16, 2007 4:48 PM
West Mesa ALL-STAR said...
Subject: What's wrong with you!!!!!
I am in disgust of your decision to change the Rio Rancho’s graduation ceremony from the pit to Santa Ana Casino! My niece is graduating from Rio Rancho this year and because of you and your “too good to drive more than 18 miles” parents I won’t be able to watch her receive her diploma! I know this isn’t the first email you have received asking for this change and it won’t be the last! I urge you to reconsider this decision!!!!
March 16, 2007 4:53 PM
PHX 4 said...
RIO RANCHO GRADUATION SITE
Please relocate the graduation ceremony to The PIT as our family will not have enough tickets for all of us to witness our nieces graduation.
Thank you
March 16, 2007 4:58 PM
OBSERVER news: said...
RANTS & RAVES:
"What gives the school board the right to have my daughter graduate from the Santa Ana Star Casino Center without even asking me? In my day, each of the high schools graduated on their own football field, what the hell's wrong with that? I don't want my kid going to the Santa Ana Star Casino Center. C'mon, Sue Cleveland, do things properly, ask the parents, or we can vote you out."
March 16, 2007 5:07 PM
BACK TO THE PIT NOW!: said...
Rio Rancho Observer - Rants and Raves:
"Oh, Rio Rancho school board, what a huge mistake you have made concerning this year's graduation. Did you think to ask the parents of graduates, and the community, where graduation should be? What about the relatives who have already bought expensive airline tickets to attend our son's graduation and will not be able to attend because our family will not be able to get the tickets we need. Maybe they can stay at our house while we attend the ceremonies. We don't care about it being cheaper to rent the Santa Ana Star Center, the convenience; our son wants his family there, that's what is important. What kind of kickback is the school board getting for holding graduation there? Thanks for the big notice on the change; if we had known earlier, we could have let our family know so they could have saved their money and told them not to buy a plane ticket so they could sit on our couch."
March 16, 2007 5:09 PM
Praying.....we go back to the pit!; said...
RE: Rio Rancho High School Graduation 2007:
"1. To the Attention of Superintendent, Dr. Sue Cleveland and the School Board, we have been informed through the news media that Mr. VonAncken your high school Principal has only received 10 emails? Well get ready to receive a whole lot more and add this to the collection of concerned parents. We are looking forward to seeing the three of you on Monday. We have been informed by Mr. VonAncken that all of the concerns of families affected here were taken into consideration? If true then this is very alarming. This is a much bigger deal then your poor decision concerning Good Friday, please change your mind concerning using the Pit. The information copied here in this document has not been addressed, both Mr. VonAncken and Mr. Duncan's responses skirt only certain concerns listed here by our good friends that took the time out of their important day to share this with us. Mr. VonAncken and Mr. Duncan are puppets in this, both of their responses confirm they copied off the same sheet of paper. I am waiting for Dr. Cleveland and each member of the School Board to respond to a tax paying, voter, active in all school events supporting, parent. Dr. Sue Cleveland and the School Board please respond to me and all of our/my concerns added here. Dr. Sue Cleveland I have always liked you but you are so very wrong on this one. This poor decision will follow you the rest of your legacy and I am praying you see this. You can't do what you are doing here with important concerns that out weigh your well-intended plan. Just stop and take good look at all the people affected here. Please Sue before we are way past the point of no return and we’re close. The center will understand your decision to change your mind here. Tear up this contract you state you agreed to. Sue Cleveland here is a golden opportunity for many thousands of people to applaud you and you really need to consider the opposite of that. It is not too late yet, call the business putting the inserts in and making tickets, he is gonna get hit with a lot of refunds, mine for sure. Tickets Sue? Next year or when ever they open your named school then you can have those tickets made. Call the center and call the Pit please you are going to get a standing ovation for this trust us on this one. Take several steps back and then really carefully read all of these points here - I want you to know I have shared this - all of this with many other professionals in various professions - they are like a reality show observer and very interested in knowing how this will play out. They see the big problems with your current last minute decision in this matter along with your reasoning - they see the many thousands of persons affected by you and they also see the buck stops with you. They too conclude the ramifications will be extremely long term, the printed graduation announcements themselves bear written witness to this bad decision as both locations are listed on each announcement, (no one is going to like that little point of interest). Dr. Sue Cleveland we are counting on you to pull up - please!
Mr. VonAncken and Mr. Duncan all I need from you is to make sure Dr. Cleveland and the entire School Board gets this lengthy document- all of this – and know it is updated constantly, thanks.
I will look forward to your response Dr. Cleveland along with the School Board’s.
Thank you of your time
and thank you Junior for your compilation of information about this major problem.
signed, Praying
Post Script:
I suggest you carefully reread all of this information here, because I added to it myself it continues to grow - it is like a moving growing blog against your decision."
March 16, 2007 5:12 PM
quoting - go rams! said...
"RIO RANCHO BASKETBALL TEAM YOU JUST ROCKED THE “PIT”,
YOU JUST WON YOUR FIRST STATE CHAMPIONSHIP;
MR. VONDUNCAN ENCOURAGED YOU AND ALL STUDENTS
TO “SHOW THEM WE OWN THE ‘PIT’!!
….AND YOU DID!!
WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO NOW?
“WE’RE GOING TO DISNEY LAN….WAIT….NO…..
WE WANT TO GO BACK TO THE “PIT” FOR OUR GRADUATION, WE OWN IT NOW!!
DID YOU SEE HOW MANY FANS WE HAD THERE?! IT WAS GREAT-GO RAMS!!!"
March 16, 2007 5:49 PM
lizard said...
The Rio Rancho High School Principal left parents out of a significant decision. Parents were told the graduation would be held at the PIT which holds up to 17,000 people. The STAR Center, at most, might hold 7500. This year, RRHS has one of the largest graduating classes in recent history. Plans should have been discussed with the people it most affects. Last year the PIT was packed with families and the graduating class was not as large. Let's rethink this now!
March 16, 2007 7:21 PM
To Lizard: said...
Hello Lizard,
Thank you for joining in.
Exactly 4,500 tickets were printed so the Rio Rancho venue is going to be tight! Because 750 Seniors times 6 tickets equals 4,500!
You are right "The PIT" will hold 18,000+ and for the Graduation it is blocked off to hold 15,000 to 16,000.
You are right on target about this significant decision and the fact RRHS does have largest graduating class in NM and in their school's history.
This decision is affecting 10,000+ people especially the Seniors and their Loved Ones!
You are right, "Let's rethink this now!"
Please pass on the blog space:
http://rioranchogradsunite.blogspot.com/
and this email address:
cmj2nc@aol.com
we need to get out this message to everyone, thanks again
Sincerely,
Sam Cooke can sing
March 16, 2007 7:45 PM
Awesome Blog said...
Awesome BLOG.
I agree, we need Gov. Richardson to negotiate this matter “BACK TO THE PIT”
Where are you Bill?
Where is Marty, visiting Bill Clinton,
Marty Chavez we need you now!
Action Jackson, Mayor of Rio Rancho, where are you?
Susie Cleveland lets go “BACK TO THE PIT”
Where have all our leaders gone?
March 16, 2007 8:03 PM
Ed's Mom said...
Oh my gosh I just got this blog info from my best friends daughter, she is graduating with my son Ed!
Our hats off to you guys that got this going, we are all for going back to the PIT!
Ed’s Mom
March 16, 2007 8:15 PM
Rio Rancho said...
Rio Rancho High School, we agree and support your return the UNM PIT,
Frank and Betty
March 16, 2007 8:21 PM
take it back to the pit said...
when you all open the other high school then you can have your graduation in rio rancho because until then RRHS will continue to have the most seniors graduating year in and year out who is keeping count? if i know that how is it the ones responsible for this somehow forgot that? that is why a new school is needed right? we fully support the have the graduation at the pit.
March 16, 2007 8:30 PM
Constitution said...
We the people of the United States, in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.
A blogger commented how this whole graduation change stepped on peoples rights.
The entire history of our government was to escape bad government, bad and unfair decisions, bad practices, bad leaders.
What really bothers me is our children are involved.
The event is an important chapter in their lives.
They are seeing first hand another history lesson.
Democracy did not play a part in this poorly planned change and that is why I am joining in on this push to address the graduation.
Even if this situation affected two people it is wrong.
After reading the newspaper and reading several emails this is affecting thousands.
I completely see why it was changed and there are those that support the change.
But when you consider how this was handled then you scratch your head and wonder how well paid, educated people forgot the opening lines of THEIR Constitution, they forgot their history and at the expense of our children.
What also stands out and causes me to cringe is the very same people have charge over our children.
They will read these words and not understand what they did and what they are doing is wrong.
These same individuals will look in the mirror and say "I'm ok".
Our children are our most precious part of our community and should not be taken for granted at any expense.
The contract is now the excuse they are so diligently clinging to and hiding behind in order to right their wrongs.
The Star Center should also know their history and let the school out of this contract.
It should have never been about the money it should have always been about the children, our children.
March 16, 2007 9:19 PM
Joey T said...
JOEY T said...
BACK TO THE PIT, COUNT OUR FAMILY IN......
March 16, 2007 4:22 PM
March 16, 2007 9:29 PM
Extended family of 11 in support of said...
“BACK TO THE PIT
FAMILY AND FRIENDS OF RIO RANCHO HIGH SCHOOL GRADUATES DISCUSSION GROUP”
After reading your blogs, newspaper stories, and the koat newscast we are behind you.
Dr. Cleveland we want this graduation at THE PIT, thank you.
Extended family of 11 in support of
J and J
March 17, 2007 7:18 AM
Anonymous said...
My daughter wants all of her family at her graduation. Mom, dad, sisters, brother, aunts, uncles, grandparents and cousins. That comes to 16! Don't make her choose who gets to go and who gets to stay home. We all want to celebrate with her. BACK TO THE PIT! Graduates and parents should have had a choice, it's our graduation, not the administrations!
March 17, 2007 7:42 AM
grapevine0691 he said she said...
The University Arena
"The Arena"
"The PIT"
Sports Illustrated's Top-20 Sports Venues of the Century:
In June, 1999, Sports Illustrated listed its top-20 sporting venues of the century and The Pit checked in at No. 13.
“Sports Illustrated in 1999 named The Pit one of the Top 20 sporting venues of the 20th century — a list that includes Yankee Stadium, Wrigley Field, Pebble Beach and Daytona International.
Yeah, that’s big-time company. That’s like being compared to Babe Ruth, Joe Louis, Man O’ War, the Roman Empire, George Washington, Marlon Brando, Katharine Hepburn.
When you make an elite list like that maybe something special had to happen in The Pit above and beyond Lobos basketball.
And it did.”
There is beaucoup (bookoo) history and memories regarding "The PIT"! It is now 41 years young! I remember as a kid walking past from a distance as they prepared to build it. Gigantic hills were formed as they removed dirt.
“Famous hole has hosted superstars, special events… It’s probably the most famous hole in the ground since the Grand Canyon. It’s almost aged as well, too. Just look at some of the characters who have brought their acts to The Pit over the past 40 years: Michael Jordan, Mick Jagger, the Eagles, Jimmy Valvano, Dennis Rodman, Jethro Tull, Kareem Abdul Jabbar, Steve Nash, Elton John, James Taylor, Alonzo Mourning, Led Zeppelin, Christian Laettner, Luciano Pavarotti, George Strait, Patrick Ewing, John Wooden, Bobby Knight, Rick Pitino.” Stevie Wonder, Magic Johnson, Santana, Larry Nance, John Thompson, Bill Cosby and that’s the short list!
The name "The Arena" or "The PIT" were always popular titles when talking about the great concerts that took place there.
"The PIT" known for incredible Basketball, at the Professional, Collegiate and High School level. My Brother helped Coach a State Championship there!
And of course UNM and High School Graduations all at "The PIT"!
If you were fortunate to have had your graduation there either from High School or UNM or both there is a fondness about the place and you have to love the name, "The PIT"! Perhaps it was the event, but there is an undeniable "energy" there. Sure its a hole in the ground but if will always remain a location of celebration, accomplishment, music, history, success, defeat, incredible wins and gut wrenching losses, woulda, coulda, shoulda, lore, myth, legend, fact, fiction, blood, sweat and tears and forever simply, "The PIT".
I am sure there has been some very good stories written and told about the various events that have taken place there (see blow). Santana played there in the early 70's, the concert was ranked in the top 4 among all concerts that summer throughout the southwest.
Endless sports stories, concerts and graduations, I remember a graduation when the entire graduating class of Eldorado High School as well as families in the audience gave the principal a standing ovation this was in 2001 or 2002, that was impressive?
Last year they estimated over 11 million people have come to the Lobo games, that does not include ALL of the Graduations, concerts, etc.!
“Bill Cosby took on the Lobos 31 years ago and came out on top”
"What a terrific atmosphere for college basketball. Great building...great history...18,000 screaming fans. It's big time hoops, baby!" - Dick Vitale ESPN
“The Pit got its nickname because it is literally a pit dug out of Albuquerque’s Southeast Mesa. The roof was built first, then dirt was excavated to create a large hole. The arena floor is 37 feet below ground level. In 1966-67, season tickets for Lobos men’s basketball were $20 for bench seats and $30 for chairbacks. A single-game ticket was $2.50.
The opening season in The Pit featured 15 home games. The highest ranked Lobos team to play in The Pit was the Lobos men of 1966-67 who achieved a No. 3 ranking in January 1967.”
“One of college basketball's most famous and recognizable buildings, University Arena is the home of New Mexico men's and women's basketball.
The Pit is built in a 37-foot hole on Albuquerque's southeast mesa. First the roof was constructed, then the hole was dug and the Arena built. That all happened in 1966. The unique Behlen roof (338 by 300 feet) was set up by contractors and then 55,000 cubic yards of earth were removed. About 28,000 yards of concrete were poured in the initial construction, which allowed a seating capacity of 14,831. The cost - an incredibly economical $1.4 million.
Arena expansion was undertaken when it became apparent that fan interest was too great even for the original structure. The expansion in 1975 cost near $2.2 million and involved the extension of a cantilevered deck above the existing facility. There are six rows in the deck, with a seating capacity of 2,300. Reserved standing-room-only spots increase The Pit's capacity to 18,018.
The 2006-07 season will be the 41st year that University Arena has served as home for Lobo hoops. The first game was played Dec. 1, 1966, with New Mexico defeating Abilene Christian, 62-53. A total of 704 games have been played overall. The Lobos have come away the victor in 569 of those, good for a stunning .808 winning percentage.
What is even more impressive about UNM's home court is that over 11 million fans have flocked into this sunken edifice to see their beloved Lobos play basketball. The exact figure stands at 11,023,733. The Lobos have averaged an astounding 15,659 fans the past 40 years, an amazing 97% of capacity.
The Lobos have finished second in the nation in attendance five times, third on four occasions, and fourth six times.
2005-06 Attendance Numbers
The University of New Mexico is one of very few schools to have both its men's and women's basketball programs rank in the top-25 in attendance during the 2005-06 season. The Lobo women were fourth while the men finished No. 21. The UNM men and women have both finished in the top-25 in each of the past eight seasons.
The rankings:
Although the men's average of 13,387 is its lowest in 25 years, UNM has still finished in the top-25 for 40 consecutive years, or every season the Lobos have played in The Pit. No other school in the country can make that claim.
UNM hosted the NCAA Championship in 1983, won by North Carolina State over Houston, the 1968, '78, '92 and 2000 West Regional, the 1985 and 1996 West Region First and Second Rounds, and 1988 McDonald's High School All-American basketball game. The NCAA Men's First and Second Rounds were here in 2002 followed by the Women's First and Second Rounds and the Midwest Regional in 2003. UNM hosted the women's first and second rounds again in 2004, followed by the men's Albuquerque Regional in 2005 and the West Regional for the women's tournament in 2006. The Pit will again host NCAA women's tournament action in 2008 and 2009.
The UNM women's basketball team is also enjoying the home court advantage The Pit offers. Over the past nine seasons under current head coach Don Flanagan, The Pit has become one of the rowdiest places in all of women's college basketball. The women have compiled a home record of 159-32 (.832) over the last 11 years. The women's team has also been in the top-10, nationally, in average attendance in each of the last eight seasons. In 2006, the women's team averaged 10,355 fans per game, fourth in the NCAA, and posted a 16-2 record. On nine different occasions, the women's squad has sold out The Pit. Five times they have filled it to the 18,018 regular season capacity. Four times they sold out NCAA tournament games when the capacity was over 16,000. Each of these nine games has come since the 1999 season.”
Rio Rancho, “Go BIG or stay HOME”! “The PIT” is the Biggest venue in the state!
Ironically, I already wrote my Brother is the Uncle of this years Graduate from Rio Rancho, who helped Coach a State Championship at "The PIT", he also graduated at "The PIT" and lives in Albuquerque but will not be able to attend this Graduation because we won't have enough tickets and this is my Brother's favorite Nephew!
I have read a lot of diplomatic emails, I've read several comments back and forth when this all started here in March with good news coverage by KOAT and then very one-sided editors from the newspapers writing without the entire facts.
Read all of those emails sent to you and then please "PASS IT ON!
RIO RANCHO BASKETBALL TEAM YOU JUST ROCKED “THE PIT”,
YOU JUST WON YOUR FIRST STATE CHAMPIONSHIP;
MR. VONDUNCAN ENCOURAGED YOU AND ALL STUDENTS
TO “SHOW THEM WE OWN ‘THE PIT’!!
….AND YOU DID!!
WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO NOW?
“WE’RE GOING TO DISNEY LAN….WAIT….NO…..
WE WANT TO GO BACK TO “THE PIT” FOR OUR GRADUATION, WE OWN IT NOW!!
DID YOU SEE HOW MANY FANS WE HAD THERE?! IT WAS GREAT-GO RAMS!!!
http://epaper.abqjournal.com/Repository/ml.asp?Ref=VEUvMjAwNi8xMS8wOSNBcjAzMDAw&Mode=HTML&Locale=english-skin-custom
http://epaper.abqjournal.com/Repository/ml.asp?Ref=QVRMLzE5OTkvMTEvMTIjQXIwMzUwMA==&Mode=Html&Locale=english-skin-custom
http://epaper.abqjournal.com/Repository/ml.asp?Ref=VEUvMjAwNi8xMS8wOSNBcjAzMjAx&Mode=HTML&Locale=english-skin-custom
http://www.abqtrib.com/search/?q=%22the+pit+at+40%22&search_submit.x=0&search_submit.y=0
March 17, 2007 8:38 AM
i know u said...
DITTO!
TO ALL THE "BLOGS" HERE!
GREAT SITE!
THANK YOU red rabbit
March 17, 2007 8:51 AM
aunt mary said...
These bastards are discriminating against large families!
March 17, 2007 10:05 AM
Dan z. said...
I agree with Aunt Mary they are discriminating against large families and against the graduate that has more then six (6) people that would be honored to attend their graduation and were invited. I agree with this blog site take it back to the PIT!!
March 17, 2007 10:26 AM
Marcos said...
ATTENTION: SENIORS, PARENTS, GUARDIANS, FAMILIES, RELATIVES, STUDENTS AND CONCERNED PERSONS
Please visit the web log, copy and paste this into your browser
http://rioranchogradsunite.blogspot.com/
You can also email: cmj2nc@aol.com if you have any problems posting comments on the blog, thank you.
We are a group of families that would like to have the Class of 2007 Graduation returned to "The PIT."
At minimum, let’s put this matter to a fair vote.
We are respectfully asking Dr. Sue Cleveland to make the decision to return to "The PIT."
RRPS has broken contracts before and can break this contract now and go "BACK TO THE PIT."
We need all persons that want the Graduation to be returned to "The PIT" to let your voice be heard.
In an unprecedented administrative decision, input was NOT allowed to be given by everyone affected. Only certain voices were heard.
This last minute decision affected more than 10,000 people.
We have heard all the reasons given by the administration and strongly feel they do not outweigh the fact that a fair process did not occur in the first place concerning this matter.
Please go online now. We have every right to be heard. "It’s not over till it’s over."
BACK TO THE PIT
FAMILY AND FRIENDS OF RIO RANCHO HIGH SCHOOL GRADUATES DISCUSSION GROUP
Please visit the web log, copy and paste this into your browser
http://rioranchogradsunite.blogspot.com/
You can also email: cmj2nc@aol.com if you have any problems posting comments on the blog, thank you.
March 17, 2007 10:49 AM
"It’s not over till it’s over" said...
Mike and Julie agree:
ATTENTION: SENIORS, PARENTS, GUARDIANS, FAMILIES, RELATIVES, STUDENTS AND CONCERNED PERSONS
Please visit the web log, copy and paste this into your browser
http://rioranchogradsunite.blogspot.com/
You can also email: cmj2nc@aol.com if you have any problems posting comments on the blog, thank you.
We are a group of families that would like to have the Class of 2007 Graduation returned to "The PIT."
At minimum, let’s put this matter to a fair vote.
We are respectfully asking Dr. Sue Cleveland to make the decision to return to "The PIT."
RRPS has broken contracts before and can break this contract now and go "BACK TO THE PIT."
We need all persons that want the Graduation to be returned to "The PIT" to let your voice be heard.
In an unprecedented administrative decision, input was NOT allowed to be given by everyone affected. Only certain voices were heard.
This last minute decision affected more than 10,000 people.
We have heard all the reasons given by the administration and strongly feel they do not outweigh the fact that a fair process did not occur in the first place concerning this matter.
Please go online now. We have every right to be heard. "It’s not over till it’s over."
BACK TO THE PIT
FAMILY AND FRIENDS OF RIO RANCHO HIGH SCHOOL GRADUATES DISCUSSION GROUP
Please visit the web log, copy and paste this into your browser
http://rioranchogradsunite.blogspot.com/
You can also email: cmj2nc@aol.com if you have any problems posting comments on the blog, thank you.
March 17, 2007 10:54 AM
"It’s not over till it’s over" said...
Arnold and Lee agree to BACK TO THE PIT
March 17, 2007 10:57 AM
Chuck and JoAnn said...
please take the time to read all this input and return this graduation to the pit, thank you.
March 17, 2007 11:00 AM
uncle glen said...
Who is going to pay for my families airline tickets? I cannot get a refund now. This has to go back to the pit!
March 17, 2007 11:04 AM
hope we are not too late said...
“BACK TO THE PIT
FAMILY AND FRIENDS OF RIO RANCHO HIGH SCHOOL GRADUATES DISCUSSION GROUP”
After reading your blogs, newspaper stories, and the koat newscast we are behind you.
Dr. Cleveland we want this graduation at THE PIT, thank you.
March 17, 2007 11:06 AM
this is cool said...
“BACK TO THE PIT
FAMILY AND FRIENDS OF RIO RANCHO HIGH SCHOOL GRADUATES DISCUSSION GROUP”
After reading your blogs, newspaper stories, and the koat newscast we are behind you.
Dr. Cleveland we want this graduation at THE PIT, thank you.
THANK YOU FOR SETTING THIS UP I HOPE IT DID NOT COST YOU TO MUCH?
March 17, 2007 11:08 AM
Driving to; Parking; Leaving; Driving home! said...
THINK ABOUT THIS!!!
Everyone here has a good point but really, really think about this:
Driving to; Parking; Leaving; Driving home!
How much traffic comes in and out of the pit when you are at an event?
But at least there you have 4 different ways to get in and out and a new 4 lane freeway out, so the time to get home if you live in Rio Rancho or on the west side is maybe a half an hour or so, not bad.
At the Santa Ana, with 700 to 750 students, which at least three fourths and more will be driving themselves, since they have to be there 2 hours early. Or their parents will be driving them. Plus school staff and Santa Ana staff that have to get there to prepare. Then all the families will be driving and the other fortunate ones that get to go, so total you are looking at a lot of automobiles driving there all at once. You will have to drive through Rio Rancho to get to a 2 lane road, with ONLY a 1 lane entrance, now that is dangerous! Could and accident occur? Yes! That will not cut down on driving time it will take you longer.
What about the parking?
That too, is going to be a major mess, and will not properly accommodate all of those vehicles. That will also add to the delay before the graduation even starts.
Now when it is time to go home you are looking at all those people and cars trying to get out of an area that has ONLY 1 way out and back to a 2 lane road! Here you are looking at a long wait if you are lucky and with no accidents. If there is an accident it is really going to be a major mess because then everyone heading in that direction will have to wait, do you get the picture?
I’d rather be coming out of the pit with more ways out to help us if something goes wrong, where if God forbid someone gets in an accident, at least you can find a way to turn around or find another road to turn on to.
What if someone gets in an accident coming from or going to the Santa Ana, where are our choices to get out of traffic? WAIT, there are NONE because there is ONLY 1 way in and 1 way out and it is a 2 lane road with NO turn around area anywhere except when you are on 528 or Northern!!!
TO ALL OF THE OFFICALS WHO CHANGED THIS!!
Start praying no one gets hurt on their way there or the way home because then you will have legal problems to deal with! God forbid a loss of life occurs!
Nobody wants that?!
Better yet change the graduation Back to the Pit and avoid all this.
THINK ABOUT THAT!!!!!!!
March 17, 2007 11:57 AM
Julie said...
AMEN!!!!!
I agree with “Driving to; Parking; Leaving; Driving Home”
TO THE OFFICALS WHO CHANGED THIS,
Yes, just like they wrote, going to and from the Pit you have 4 different ways to get in and out and a newly constructed 4-lane freeway.
The Rio Rancho location only has 1 way in and 1 way out with no way to turn around.
If a member of my family gets hurt I will be holding you accountable to the fullest.
Yeah…….THINK ABOUT THAT!!
Julie
cc: Attorney
March 17, 2007 12:07 PM
tear up the contract said...
Yes, tear up the contract!
“BACK TO THE PIT
FAMILY AND FRIENDS OF RIO RANCHO HIGH SCHOOL GRADUATES DISCUSSION GROUP”
After reading your blogs, newspaper stories, and the KOAT newscast we are behind you and support returning to The Pit.
Dr. Cleveland we want this graduation at THE PIT, thank you.
March 17, 2007 12:11 PM
Nancy and Greg said...
“BACK TO THE PIT”
March 17, 2007 12:13 PM
Brad back to the Pit has said...
I'm on my lunch break, this blog deal is really great. My mom said to check out the weblog because everyone is concerned. Thank you for being concerned enough to get involved. Seniors lets tell them we want to go back to the PIT.
Shout out to Becky!
March 17, 2007 12:19 PM
i said...
Take you back...
do do do do
take you back...
oh...
take you back...
do do do do
take you back
to the PIT!!!!
(song from the movie Rocky i added the last line)
March 17, 2007 12:26 PM
auntie m said...
auntie m said...
Okay, I finally saw the KOAT footage by Rod Green. It is very well done. It would not play on my mac, but it did on my pc. I'm surprised the school did not revisit their decision after this aired. It made them look really stupid.
Excellent newscast, copy this info here into your browser (there will be a short commercial first):
www.koat.com/video/11177714/index.html?taf=alb
or go to first page of this blog and look for "NEWS COVERAGE" and click on KOAT-TV it will take you to the newscast.
March 17, 2007 2:08 PM
Rio Rancho, “Go BIG or stay HOME”! said...
Rio Rancho, “Go BIG or stay HOME”! “The Pit” is the Biggest venue in the state!
This ain't over until the lady sings, we are just getting warmed up, believe it!
Rio Rancho, you have the largest Graduating Class in the entire State and School History what will you do now?
Well we are not going to Disneyland.....NO!!! We are going to have our graduation in Rio Rancho so our money WILL NOT be spent in Albuquerque (as stated by the administration) but NO wait the administration OK’d our announcements, cap & gown, class ring and pictures to be bought in Albuquerque?! Hey, at $100 a pop that is $75,000 or at $180 a pop that is $135,000 or at $200 a pop is $150,000, get the picture? Someone other then Rio Rancho is making out good! Do you realize after all is said and done over $500,000 is being spent in Albuquerque on the whole enchilada anyway?
Our Basketball Championship games leading to the finals were at “The Pit" where everyone that we know seemed to make it there with no complaints of the drive, and all done in Albuquerque. (Which was one of the complaints it was too far (17 miles) and dangerous to drive to the graduation but not for the games, and on several different days Rio Rancho drove there because we kept winning and WON IT ALL!?) We have numerous families in Rio Rancho that are season ticket holders to events at the “The Pit” and other events taking place in Albuquerque where the venue is over 18,000+ persons.
FYI: At “The Pit" you have at least 4 ways to enter from and leave North, South, East and West with at least 3 lanes and a newly constructed Freeway you can use going to or when leaving! Lets compare the venues, who knows how long it will take for us to get to and out of the Santa Ana with the whole 2 ways to get there on a 2 lane road with only 1 lane going in and only 1 lane going out, just exactly like a bottle neck, there are no U turns on this little journey. That sounds like fun to me, make sure the family members that received the “golden ticket” and that are allowed to go, all bring their DVD or CD players while driving to and then leaving to get back home that depending on where you live in Rio Rancho is 15 minutes away, each way, that is with no heavy traffic either. Yes this Graduation is going to take a lot longer then 15 minutes drive time each way both going and coming. Also, take a jaunt out there yourself time it from your driveway all the way to where you stop, where you actually park, it will take some of us longer, and speaking of parking, that is going to be a mess! Don’t forget ONLY 1 way in and 1 way out. Did they take into account people other then Rio Rancho and from Albuquerque or even other cities in the state as well as out of state will be coming to this Graduation? This is very important, not everyone going lives in Rio Rancho! You did not take that into consideration.
The decision lends itself with all of the limits placed on it to: no outsiders allowed! We decree by order of VonDuncan and the “many”, at the very last minute - in Rio Rancho, for Rio Rancho, by Rio Rancho, God forbid if you have more then 6 guests!! 2 Parents, 2 Siblings and only 1 set of Grandparents, that is 6, too bad for “Grammy” and “Grampa”, the other set of Grandparents! If you don’t fit into that cookie cutter template logic if you by chance have an extra family member, then you are out of luck, too bad so sad. And to hell with the Aunts and Uncles and Cousins! Draw straws, that is a great idea! Arm wrestle that’s better yet! And to all you folks that bought airline tickets in advance, …shucks. Or if you worked like hell, extra hours or O.T. to have these days off….oops. Oh and the “extra” tickets available, those will be few and far between because 4,500 divided by 750 is 6! But not everyone will need 6, true but based on previous year’s numbers for person’s attending and the fact this is the Largest Graduating Class ever, both mathematically and logically there will be “many” more Seniors that will need more then 6 tickets! We know because several of the Graduates have stated that “everyone” is asking for extra tickets. Think about it a 15,000-person venue down to a 4,500-person venue, WE NEED TICKETS!!
You say, in the past “we always got ‘The Pit’ on a bad day” well not this year, we have in on a Saturday at 4 PM.
And it is very sad to read in the newspaper, people actually condemning those that just happen to have a larger inner circle of more then 6! The attitude is like shame on you for wanting so many tickets, you know if one family needs 2 tickets tops or less, that’s cool, and if one family needs 20 tickets more or less, that’s cool too! But to condemn anyone that have more in their network is ignorance. Just think about the last high school graduation you went to that was not your own child then think about the one you went to that was not related. Now, after you have done that we only go to graduations that we want to go to because of our history with the graduate. We criticize and punish the person graduating because of too many contacts, how very sad. The persons complaining wrote it was “ridiculous”, that narrow-minded mentality is what is “ridiculous” not those that have a larger inner circle of people. More power to you if you know people that want to come witness your achievement! FYI: Our state has one of the highest dropout and suicide rates in the country, just ask Dr. Cleveland. So obtaining your High School diploma is outstanding!
But large sums of money were saved? So says the administration. Yes exactly $1,990.06 was saved! Great that means the 15,000 seats available at “The Pit” for $8K is a much better deal then the 4,500 seats at the hockey rink for $6K? Wait a minute we better ask someone Graduating who can add, if you do the math, each seat at the rink actually costs more then each seat at “The Pit”? Somehow by that logic if both seats are priced the same we should be only paying a total $2,385.00 for the use of the rink not $6,000.00! Again, that total ($2,385) is based on if both the seats at both venues cost the same.
Speaking of more savings, too bad the decision makers don't pay for the graduation accessories that we have to pay for, bought in Albuquerque not Rio Rancho. If you don’t know, Jostens who is handling the announcements was also affected by this last second poorly planned decision. It is too late for them to take out “The Pit” and the location!!! OOPPSS!! It is already etched in stone so to speak, in all of the announcements! (That is NOT going to look good) And because of the downsizing with this last minute decision we now have a surplus of incorrect announcements, much more then we needed in the first place! Now with all the extra announcements that we paid for, now we have to put a total of 2, yes Dos inserts in them, the administration's insert and now our own insert (how professional looking) because the original announcement will in fact still read the Graduation is at “The Pit", maybe with a thick black magic marker we could draw a large X thru that? But hopefully they will see the first insert, which will explain, no it's not at “The Pit" that portion is wrong it is at the “Santa Ana Star owned by the Casino Center hockey rink” here is a map to show you how to get to the 2 lane road after you have driven thru Rio Rancho, (the professionals spent a lot of time clarifying that little tid-bit of info-the name of the venue, even an editor chimed in) but hopefully we who paid for now too many announcements because of the terrible last minute change without everyone’s input are praying they somehow they will see the second insert stating you can't go we are just teasing you, we only have 6 tickets so we can be like “all the other districts” that can ONLY use their Gym, (although if these districts were 17 miles away would love to use “The” storied “Pit”) unlike us with the State’s largest Graduating Class and can use “The Pit”. HEY, No inserts needed if we stay at “The Pit”. Whether you choose one or two inserts to try to explain this debacle in your announcement it won’t look good and will be confusing. So to those lucky ones that won’t be able to go, just send your regards to your Sister or Brother, or Granddaughter or Grandson or favorite Relative that will be Graduating and we the limited family members that flipped a coin to get in, will tell you how it went!
According to the administration of course the most important part of all this graduation, is, it will be in Rio Rancho at the best facility they could get, so that our Graduates can limit the number of members of their families to see them Graduate after 12 years of working hard and they don't get to decide where they want it, the district did it for them, and with only 2 months to go, thank you so much for the early notice, you allowed us no real time to prepare. Even though we had plans that have to be completely changed! People that purchased airline tickets, took time off, etc. We have nothing else going on in our lives. To change venues with such short notice is affecting our Graduates along with thousands of people, and the administration is OK with that?!
Sadly, in the “words of wisdom” from Rio Rancho High School’s own principal’s mouth, where is says, “the choice is yours.” Clearly this is not true even though it has been stated everyday on the announcements he gives. Not ALL of the Seniors had a say a “choice” in this and it is THEIR DAY, right? Not ALL the parents/guardians had a say a “choice” in this and it is THEIR CHILD’S DAY, right? Only a certain few received this important privilege. Just think about that for a minute or 2, how unfair is that? The “Class Song” is “Dream On”, and that is exactly what VonDuncan and Cleveland has told the Class of 2007, “oh you would like your graduation to be returned to ‘The Pit’ Seniors”? “Well ‘Dream On’ Seniors”.
We heard the excuse, “we couldn’t get all the Seniors on the floor last year if we go the the hockey rink we can”. I’m not sure what has changed on the floor of “The Pit” but check and verify this fact, I know I was present in the early 70’s, Sandia High School graduated 2 classes with over 900+ students on the floor and one class which is the Largest Class ever in NM history, with over 1,000+ Seniors all on the floor. So you might want to see why or how that was. Basically, it can be done.
Because of issues with past Graduations but last years in particular, the Class of 2007 and those closest to them get to feel the brunt of the penalty that they are innocent of. What an interesting lesson in life, forget about the stress this ripple affect is causing right now, the decree has spoken. Forget about what is right or wrong or fair and unfair, the decree has spoken. Forget about the fact your announcement will be tacky and confusing and you have much more then you needed, the decree has spoken. Forget about the fact we disrupted your plans and peoples lives, the decree has spoken. Forget about the fact this is YOUR DAY, this is a Celebration, and ALL of your supporting cast does not have to be present, the decree has spoken. Forget about the fact we told you at the last minute, gave you no fair warning with input coming only from the privileged and the administration, sprinkled with a few politicians, the decree has spoken!
An editor and the administration all referred to the “many” that wanted this, what is the problem with putting this to a vote, right now? You will all find out the actual “many” want this event at “The Pit”. Our Seniors will have to revert back to their grade school days, you print up what 750 notes home with 2 boxes to check on the note - “The Pit” or no “Pit”, parents and guardians along with each Senior will vote. Unlike the decree that has been imposed upon everyone, where only a certain “many” voices were heard and acted on, simply, that decision that act in itself is so wrong and so very unfair, this is America right? (The school Board is supposed to uphold the Constitution of the United States, just ask them). Make sure you number each one of these notes that way they can be counted fairly. Add a few lines so the Graduate and their Parent/Guardian can print and sign. If you have a better idea, wonderful as long as the vote process is fair. If the vote comes back no “Pit”, then the editor, the administration and the so called “many” had a finger on the pulse and IF the vote comes back “The Pit” then Hallelujah! Times a wastin’!
At this point, no fair or reasonable explanation can out weigh ALL the reasons why the Graduation should be at “The Pit”. Go ahead and weigh each and every matter honestly and fairly, both sides, the “proof is in the pudding”, fact, the way this entire decision was imposed has been handled, is wrong and very unfair. If it were above board, we would not be writing this.
Sincere apologies if I offended anyone with my sarcasm, I’ve read several comments back and forth when this started here in March with some good news coverage and then very one sided editors chiming in, contradictions and so on, so like a magnet I am jumping in.
And like those before me read everything below and then please "PASS IT ON!
RIO RANCHO BASKETBALL TEAM YOU JUST ROCKED “THE PIT”,
YOU JUST WON YOUR FIRST STATE CHAMPIONSHIP;
MR. VONDUNCAN ENCOURAGED YOU AND ALL STUDENTS
TO “SHOW THEM WE OWN ‘THE PIT’!!
….AND YOU DID!!
WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO NOW?
“WE’RE GOING TO DISNEY LAN….WAIT….NO…..
WE WANT TO GO BACK TO “THE PIT” FOR OUR GRADUATION, WE OWN IT NOW!!
DID YOU SEE HOW MANY FANS WE HAD THERE?! IT WAS GREAT-GO RAMS!!!
March 17, 2007 9:40 PM
PASS IT ON! said...
Quoting a famous movie line - "We are mad as hell and we are not going to take it"!
We concur with the blog and count us in as a family against this negative decision imposed upon our children, PASS IT ON!:
Excellent newscast, copy this info here into your browser (there will be a short commercial first):
www.koat.com/video/11177714/index.html?taf=alb
March 17, 2007 9:46 PM
Please help! said...
2. Please help! We are asking you all please change the Graduation back to the “Pit”; the date is still open and available at this venue. For the “GREATER GOOD” GO BACK TO THE PIT! Hey even our Basketball Team and Fans had to go to Albuquerque for the entire tournament and Rocked the Pit”!
March 17, 2007 9:49 PM
# 3 said...
3. 2007 - Largest Graduating Class in the entire state and in our school’s history.
March 17, 2007 9:50 PM
# 4 said...
4. The venue change is simply too small, 14,000+ persons attending reduced down to 4,500. Mr. VonAncken said “4,500”.
March 17, 2007 9:51 PM
# 5 said...
5. With only 2 months to go we were just informed of this change, but up until March 2007 we have always been of the clear understanding that “The Pit” was the location, we were given no forewarning at all, this is absolutely too short of notice, plans, invitations, time off and out of state airline tickets had already been purchased. The timing to inform us is absolutely terrible; this completely throws off our plans along with several thousands of others.
March 17, 2007 9:57 PM
# 6 said...
6. The Class of 2007 and their Loved Ones are being punished and made the guinea pigs.
March 17, 2007 9:57 PM
# 7 said...
7. The actual average amount of persons attending per each Senior for prior Graduations was about 19, some would have more, some less but that is the average, within the last few years there was no official ticket (Dr. Cleveland said the Class of 1999 was at Johnson Gym). And within recent years Rio Rancho has always packed “The Pit”. But now there are tickets and it has been limited to exactly 6. Also there is a claim that 2 extra tickets will supposedly be given out to bring the total to 8 however this will still not remedy this poor plan. No amount will remedy this because 4,500 seats is around 10,000+ persons short that won’t be allowed to attend. Mathematically 6 times 750 equals 4,500 so not very many Graduates will be getting over 6 tickets.
March 17, 2007 10:04 PM
# 8 said...
8. Safety, yes, all of the other facts listed here speak for themselves. We have the Largest Graduating Class, EVER AND EACH GRADUATE HAS A SUPPORTING CAST THAT ABSOLUTELY DESERVES TO BE IN ATTENDANCE, ENOUGH SAID.
March 17, 2007 10:05 PM
# 9 said...
9. SERIOUSLY…SIMPLY, WHAT PRICE DO YOU PLACE ON A CELEBRATION OF LOVE AND LIFE?! THE COST THE SAVINGS THAT MRS. CLEVELAND AND MR. VONANCKEN ALLUDE TO ABSOLUTELY DO NOT OUT WEIGH WHAT WILL BE COMPLETELY LOST! YES, EVEN TO ATTEMPT TO PLACE A PRICE ON THIS ENTIRE PROCESS, CELEBRATION AND EVENT IS INAPPROPRIATE BECAUSE IT IS TRULY “PRICELESS”! TO ARGUE THIS IMPORTANT POINT IS IGNORANCE AND…..WELL….VERY WRONG.
March 17, 2007 10:07 PM
# 10 said...
10. AGAIN, EACH GRADUATE HAS A SUPPORTING CAST THAT ABSOLUTELY DESERVES TO BE IN ATTENDANCE!
March 17, 2007 10:08 PM
# 11 said...
11. If you take EVERYTHING into consideration, both sides of the coin, ALL of their points, and now their explanations and contradictions to not concede. This is a mess; we cannot even begin to explain how bad this truly is. The very Best thing they can do at this point is to take this celebration this Graduation back to “The Pit" and then they can regroup for next year, that way Graduates and Loved Ones can actually be allowed input for next year. It won’t be one sided like now and the powers that be would have a whole year to explain their logic.
March 17, 2007 10:08 PM
# 12 said...
12. Please consider this very important fact, if they put it to a vote now right now, the Graduation would go back to “The Pit" please really think about this, they are displacing over 10,000+ persons!
March 17, 2007 10:09 PM
# 13 said...
13. Please consider at this time is the very end of the year, the very end of their 13 years in school, and consider the stress this is placing on our Graduates and their Loved Ones?! Is anyone taking that into consideration? 2007 will be the year they truly remember when their own Family, Relatives and Loved Ones at the last minute were denied the opportunity to see them Graduate, even though this was planned before hand. We already had 2 Children Graduate at “The Pit”; we surely are not going to forget this Graduation. We are very upset right now!
March 17, 2007 10:11 PM
Lila said...
· A High School Graduation is a very important celebration! An accomplishment of what you have completed in your life. As "Pomp and Circumstance" begins to play a myriad of memories and emotions flood into your mind, you see this young woman or young man dressed in their Graduation attire, glimpses of Pre-school, their Kindergarten and First Grade Graduations seem like only yesterday! “Did 13 years really pass by, you ask yourself?” You and Everyone that joined you for this moment are so very proud. Some will have tears of joy, some will clap, whistle and holler, but without a doubt a feeling of happiness will dominate your senses. And those that were with you through the good times and even the difficult times will beam with honor! “She did it-He did it!” You will remark or think yourself! Please know this celebration includes a Graduate(s) and Everyone that helped make this happen, through influence, nurturing, encouragement and love. Again, this process involves Everyone, not a limited number due to a facility change at the last minute. Please know each process, each individual has their own unique story along with the supporting cast involved. You only Graduate from High School once in your life. Please carefully consider everything herein and understand your well-meaning intentions do NOT outweigh all of the reasons to allow this very important celebration to remain at “The Pit” and the several thousands affected.
March 18, 2007 7:35 AM
Mr. VonAncken should have said...
· In the High School announcements on 3/5/07, Mr. VonAncken stated the venue would not be changed back to “The Pit” and would remain at the center. On a very interesting note he always ends his daily announcements stating the “choice is yours”, on this day (3/5) as he stated this again, he actually chuckled, he literally chuckled as if though a “Freudian slip” in that he lied, because the reality is that the choice is NOT the Seniors and all Students it never was! It was his and Mrs. Cleveland’s all along.
March 18, 2007 7:39 AM
Jack said...
· On a very positive proactive note we are aware of 3 petitions that the Seniors themselves have started, but this is a difficult task with connecting with other students due to schedules and classes. We applaud these future leaders for “stepping up”. Mrs. Cleveland, the school board, Mr. VonAncken and company should take particular note.
March 18, 2007 7:44 AM
Rita said...
· In a KOAT newscast on television Mr. VonAncken contradicted himself, from what he advised the newspaper. He advised reporter Rod Green that he would leave it up to the student to secure any extra tickets beyond the allotted 6!!! That is going to be interesting! Now it us up to the student!!!! Surely, each student graduating have many other important tasks to take care of with only two months left in the school year? This is what he told Rod Green! Consider how unfair this process is to secure extra tickets? This confirms how poorly planned the “let’s just wing it” now thinking is in full affect! Please share this with others KOAT-TV newscast with reporter Rod Green, (hats off great news report) check this out, copy this info here into your browser there is a short commercial so please be patient: www.koat.com/video/11177714/index.html?taf=alb
March 18, 2007 7:55 AM
Philip C. said...
· Herein, confirms that the person or persons involved in making this last minute decision/change did not take into full account all of this information! If this was not a last minute decision, then why did it take until March 2007 to spring it on us? Was there a vote? Was balanced input solicited? Who, What, When, Where, Why and How did this come about? Please be respectfully advised that we are not in the minority here, we are in the majority here and absolutely not at all happy with this last minute change! Lets put it to a vote now.
March 18, 2007 7:59 AM
the casino said...
· The casino . . . seriously, the casino, please tell me it is not true that the power or powers that be, decided to have a important event for young Women and Men Graduating, also where babies, young children and Loved Ones will come to this important event at the casino??!! NOTE: per Barbara Armijo at the Journal/Tribune newspaper, it will be held at the “CENTER”, the casino owns the center – hockey rink. OK! So…it is officially the Santa Ana Star owned by the casino/center hockey rink, yes? But another note: Quoting Jake Rigdon with the Journal in his recent piece, YES he referred to this location as "The Star Casino", this was on the front page, oops he must notta' got the memo?!!
March 18, 2007 8:22 AM
13 years at RRPS said...
· At the beginning of the year at the Senior Assembly when the Seniors were being told about ordering their cap and gowns and graduation announcements both Mr. Duncan, the activities director and Mr. VonAncken said that the class of 2007 would most likely be the biggest graduating class in New Mexico and in the history of Rio Rancho and that there are Seniors that have been going to RRPS their whole lives and they would like to do something special about that this year. It was absolutely clear the venue would be “The Pit” and their would be no limit on people attending. Therefore, plans, ordering announcements, buying airline tickets, scheduling time off were ALL done prior to this change! They were well aware of this! This also means they were well aware that just by the very size of the class graduating would indicate the strong likelihood that potentially more persons would be in attendance then all of the previous graduations!
March 18, 2007 8:32 AM
RRPS agenda book said...
· Regarding your decision to change this year’s Graduation to the owned by the Casino/Center hockey rink. The Rio Rancho High School Agenda Book clearly states the Graduation will be at “The Pit”. And with that original information this is what we all used to plan out this important event in our Child’s life. Your Website also confirms it will be at “The Pit”.
March 18, 2007 8:35 AM
full refund said...
· Our Graduate’s Graduation announcements and keep in mind as well as numerous other families’ announcements were ordered with the understanding the Graduation would be at “The Pit”. Had we known the location would be changed this would have influenced our purchase of these announcements and the amount needed.
· Why would we have wasted money on announcements that are inviting many people to an event they can’t go to? Most of the tickets are going only to immediate family. People with large families and a large network are penalized. Not so at “The Pit” venue.
· “The announcements do say The Pit, however, there is an insert being done for the new location with a map”. This is the exact quote by Jostens, the business doing our announcements; we have requested that they provide us with a full refund, as we will cancel this order. We are encouraging others to do likewise.
March 18, 2007 8:43 AM
blog blog blog blog blog said...
oh man, I really like your blogspot. we support everyone rising to this task, blog on and “seize the time” go back to the PIT Rio Rancho, NM!
Roy S.
March 18, 2007 8:51 AM
Largest Graduating Class said...
· The Largest Graduating Class in Rio Rancho history and the largest Class in the state. To place the largest Class in a smaller venue is not a well thought out plan at this late notice no matter what the logic.
March 18, 2007 9:04 AM
what now said...
· Family, Loved Ones, Friends have already booked flights and taken time off because it was our understanding prior to March 07 that this event was going to be at “The Pit”. Please know that these are flights that cannot be refunded. What now?
March 18, 2007 9:08 AM
6 tickets said...
· 6-ticket limit. One Graduate, has 4 Grandparents, 2 Parents, that equals 6 tickets, but what about divorced families that would now have 6 Grandparents and 4 Parents, that equals 8? That does not even include Sisters, Brothers, Aunts, Uncles, Nieces, Nephews, Cousins, Loved Ones, Neighbors, past Teachers, Employers and Friends!
March 18, 2007 9:08 AM
don't punish us said...
· Last year’s Graduation easily had over 14,000 people in attendance, there is no way a facility that holds 6000 people but then adjusted down to 4,500 seats for the graduation would be able handle this size event. You are now cutting it down by more then two thirds! Again, this is punishing this year’s Seniors and Loved Ones.
March 18, 2007 9:09 AM
007 said...
· We heard last year’s Graduation had a rowdy crowd and security was an issue? Please do not penalize the class of 2007 that cannot be blamed for last year.
March 18, 2007 9:10 AM
security said...
· We heard even if they have it at “The Pit” they would still limit the tickets to 6 due to security! How much is the cost of additional security? Again the Class of 2007 should not be penalized! Please remember that this is a celebration.
March 18, 2007 9:12 AM
Joe G said...
· We ourselves witnessed 3 Graduations at “The Pit” last year because of our Nephews Graduating, “The Pit” more then handled the flow of people coming to celebrate. These very same Graduations would not have fit in a 4,500-seat facility. And we would have not been able to be present for each of our nephew’s Graduations if it was limited to 6. We filmed each of these events for our Sister and Brothers and our Nephews, a gift that they will always cherish.
March 18, 2007 9:19 AM
Joy said...
· We the Parents and Graduates should have been advised about this change in August 2006 not this late, not barely now in March 2007, that is terrible planning! Who voted? Who decided? Input should have been requested by everyone not to a few that voiced their concerns. Or the “many” as is being explained now, there are “many” more that want this at “The Pit”. Input should have been asked of Everyone! How could this have been overlooked? Lets vote now!
March 18, 2007 9:22 AM
cesar's way said...
As a senior at Rio Rancho, I would like to have the graduation moved back to University Arena. I have a large family – some of which are flying overseas to attend – that have bought tickets and now cannot attend. If funds are an issue, why can’t the school have a fundraiser?
Cesar
March 18, 2007 12:15 PM
scorpsrule19 said...
I’ve been to the Santa Ana Star Center several times as a hockey fan, and I’m curious as to how traffic is going to be handled at graduation. The Scorpions get about 2,000-2,8000 fans a game, and there are two traffic cops at every game handling a very congested parking lot. How in the world can the poorly designed parking lot handle well over 5,000 people? ScorpsRule19
March 18, 2007 12:16 PM
mark said...
I don’t ever recall a school board meeting regarding the original decision to move the location of graduation. It’s very difficult to believe that a majority of parents, some of who aren’t yet aware of the venue change or the ticket limit, made this decision.
Mark
March 18, 2007 12:17 PM
Very Discouraged said...
Most graduates take pride in completing high school, and would like to enjoy this seminal moment with friends and family. The administration of Rio Rancho High School has done a disservice to the students, their families, and the entire community by moving graduation to the event center. Mr. Richard Von Ancken should remember that this is the students’ time to shine, not the time for him to push around his weight.
Very Discouraged
March 18, 2007 12:19 PM
ECV said...
If Dr. Cleveland is so worried about graduates and their families driving down to the Pit, why did the high school encourage students to drive there to celebrate the basketball team reaching the state finals? I sense a bit of hypocrisy from the higher-ups in Rio Rancho.
ECV
March 18, 2007 12:19 PM
WILLIAM said...
THAT TAKES THE PROVERBIAL “CAKE”!
INPUT FROM ONLY A CHOSEN FEW OR WHO YELLED THE LOUDEST!
NOT EVERYONE WAS ALLOWED TO VOTE OR GIVE ANY INPUT!
DISTRICT’S EGO IS HURT BECAUSE THEY WERE BOOED LAST YEAR!
NO WONDER THEY WERE BOOED!
DECISION TO CHANGE JUST HAPPENED AND NOT EVERYONE KNOWS ABOUT IT, I JUST GOT AN EMAIL TODAY!??
WHAT IS UP WITH THAT, I NEVER GOT THE MEMO?
PLANS HAVE ALREADY BEEN MADE!
DISTRICT IS NOW USING THE WE ALREADY SIGNED THE CONTRACT EXCUSE!
I OWN A PAPER SHREDDER!
10,000 PEOPLE THAT WANT TO BE THERE CAN’T BE THERE!
ANNOUNCEMENTS STILL HAVE “THE PIT” ON THEM, THAT IS BEYOND TACKY, THAT IS RIGHT ABOVE B. S. IN MY BOOK!
LAST I CHECKED WE LIVE IN AMERICA!
WE HAVE RIGHTS, HERE!
IF THE DISCTRICT GETS AWAY WITH THIS SMOKE AND MIRRORS JOB, WE HAVE ALL JUST WITNESSED A CRIME!
OH MY GOODNESS GRACIOUS, THESE PEOPLE HAVE HAD AUTHORITY OVER OUR KIDS!
I AM FURIOUS!!!
I ALSO WANTED TO THANK ALL OF YOU THAT PUT THE BLOG TOGETHER YOU REALLY DID A GREAT JOB I WILL PASS IT ON!
I WOULD LIKE TO WRITE HOW I REALLY FEEL BUT I THINK YOU WOULD NOT WANT TO HAVE SUCH ANGER, RAGE, PROFANITY IN YOUR NICE WEBSITE!
WILLIAM
March 18, 2007 12:39 PM
JAMES said...
ditto to what William just wrote! I think I might just pop I'm so mad! PLEASE WAKE UP RRPS!
March 18, 2007 12:43 PM
John changed his mind said...
Ok, wow!
I just saw the koat newscast and I am most interested in all of the names of school staff that decided this? I am also interested in knowing how many people wanted this change? I WOULD LIKE THE GRADUATION IN RIO RANCHO TOO, BUT NOT LIKE THIS! This is not how anyone should conduct business, especially when our youth are involved our own kids. My son told me it would be going to be in Rio Rancho and I was pleased. But not so pleased to rip-off thousands of families. I won’t have a ticket problem but I am more aware now of many families that will. The bottom-line: this is absolutely wrong I am 100% for returning this graduation and all the future graduations to the UNM PIT, until, repeat, UNTIL, EVERY SINGLE FAMILY AFFECTED HAS HAD CHANCE TO PROVIDE THEIR VOICE IN THE MATTER!
The idea to have the change when the new school is built sounds ok, but we still need everyone’s say in this. Everything written on the blog space here makes great sense. I do like the reasons to have it here but too many people are getting the short end of the stick, this is very unfair.
John L.
March 18, 2007 1:03 PM
Mark said...
· The concept that Graduates are being asked to return tickets is at best wishful thinking because common sense dictates that the majority of students won’t return their tickets. And for various reasons! Again, placing other needy Families at their mercy. This strategy again, verifies that this was not planned well. What percentage will actually do this, who will be in charge of the returns, and who gets them? This sounds good in theory but in practice will be very problematic. Since you have never done this before it will be very difficult to do for the very first time. Update: In a KOAT newscast on television Mr. VonAncken contradicted himself, from what he advised the newspaper. He advised reporter Rod Green that he would leave it up to the student to secure any extra tickets beyond the allotted 6!!! That is going to be interesting! Now it us up to the student!!!! Surely, each student graduating have many other important tasks to take care of with only two months left in the school year? This is what he told Rod Green! Consider how unfair this process is to secure extra tickets? This confirms how poorly planned the “let’s just wing it” now thinking is in full affect! Please share this with others KOAT-TV newscast with reporter Rod Green, (hats off great news report) check this out, copy this info here into your browser there is a short commercial so please be patient: www.koat.com/video/11177714/index.html?taf=alb
March 18, 2007 2:15 PM
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March 18, 2007 4:57 PM
BEN said...
Dr. Cleveland and Mr. VonAncken, I fully support you and respect all that you have to deal with, I am all the way on your side.
But I am motivated to write this to let you know that the way this entire matter was processed is absolutely wrong.
I think someone already wrote to allow everyone to have a say and that actually is the right way and is the way it has to be.
If we let this slide then who knows what will be next? It is too important and too many people are affected.
Yeah, I whole lot of people were booed last year and I did not agree with that. The only thing I will point out is we here in Rio Rancho are TOUGH! The graduation last year went on too long, people were getting restless and well, mad. If you think downsizing will help, well then you have not learned from last year. I have seen first hand what just 20 people can do if they choose to get rowdy. The Pit has had graduations since forever. There are many more things that fostered that and RRPS needs to take a good look at themselves in the mirror and that is actually the truth.
I did not agree with what happened at last year's graduation. But I sure don't agree with all of this.
It smells like, money as in kickbacks, or politics, or stupidity is driving this. What else could it be? Either someone is benefiting, or someone with power has an agenda, or you are deaf, dumb and blind? My apologies for being so blunt, but let us call it what it truly is. It is one of the three, or two of the three, or it is all three. If you stop and ask yourself why are we doing this hopefully you will find the answer.
I sincerely ask because what you are imposing and how you are imposing it is "DEAD WRONG". "I see said the blind man."
Additionally, if you would have had 4500 persons from last year’s graduation at the Star center, you would have still been booed. Consider that? Downsizing is not your problem. But what concerns me is with these shenanigans that you now refuse to bend on have only severely added to your woes.
Thanks for your time, and GO BACK TO THE PIT,
Ben
March 18, 2007 6:13 PM
Ben again said...
Go back to The Pit, because it is the RIGHT thing to do.
OR
Put it to a vote period and you will have all your answers and problems solved and then you did what you should have done in the first place.
It really is that simple.
Wise up, or forget about the "money and the contract", or tell who is ever driving this you won't do it, you won't do thousands of people and children wrong.
Sorry, but this blog dealy is bad to the bone!
March 18, 2007 6:34 PM
Anonymous said...
I fully support the petition. Our children and families shouldn't have to pay for this late decision. I hope all of my out of town relatives will get tickets, but I don't expect that to happen. This was handled very poorly and the decision should be reconsidered with the input of all the affected students and parents.
March 18, 2007 8:51 PM
Andrew said...
Why would you make a decision two months before graduation without a vote from your graduates? I've heard security was too much and that the venue is cheaper, why didn't you have a fundraiser or make the tickets a dollar each?! If it's about money then if 14,000 people showed up at the PIT like in previous years that would be $14,000! PLEASE change it back to the PIT!
March 18, 2007 8:59 PM
B. said...
I have worked my butt off in high school and my ENTIRE family has supported me in these twelve hard years of work and this is how you repay the class of 2007. It's not my fault you're only giving me six tickets, since RRPS is so good at making my decisions for me than maybe you can help me evaluate how I am going to divide up my tickets among my HUGE family.
March 18, 2007 9:01 PM
Re-think said...
I want my family to see me graduate and 6 tickets won’t be enough! Rio Rancho needs to re-think their decision!
March 18, 2007 9:02 PM
stressed out said...
Being a senior is very stressful because of everything we have to get done through the year and down the stretch and for me the graduation change makes my senior year a MILLION TIMES more stressful. Now I don’t get to have ALL of my loved ones see me graduate. Thanks for ruining one of the most important events of my life. I am sorry we are a very close family. I was really looking forward to graduation when I saw my cousins (with our ENTIRE family) graduate last year at the PIT from West Mesa and Eldorado, but now I'm not because not even half of them will be there. What a great way to show your appreciation to one of the largest graduating classes.
March 18, 2007 9:07 PM
cruel said...
· Now this plan that has just been unveiled allows us only 2 months notice, thus making it more hectic for families because of all the costs and sacrifices we now have to make regarding everything listed here. Cancelled plans, leave time, calling people and telling them they can’t come, no airline tickets etc. If you really took all of this into consideration like you claim you did, then that is very cruel of you! You don’t mind stressing people? You don’t mind allowing us hardly any time to really prepare? You don’t mind our child’s announcements are goofy? You don’t mind not asking everyone his or her thoughts on this? You stated “many” people complained, I have not met anyone yet that wants it in Rio Rancho, I read what the newspaper has put out but that read liked “canned” statements to me. An editor for the Albuquerque Journal wrote more people wanted it in Rio Rancho. May I state bluntly, that is a Damn lie! How in the hell do they know this? Show me proof that more people wanted it in Rio Rancho, you won’t because you can’t. If we put it to a vote right now, a fair vote, and more people say Rio Rancho they I will be happy to shut up. But they are afraid to put it to a vote because they know exactly what will happen. We should place bets and put this to a vote. RRPS will lose big time.
March 18, 2007 9:34 PM
Rick said...
· We would like to know at what meeting did the community decide this? There was no notice that this was subject to change. There was not a vote taken! The School Board did not even sanction this, this was a Mr. VonAncken, Mr. Duncan, Dr. Cleveland plan, Lets put this to a vote.
March 18, 2007 9:35 PM
observer news said...
Parent, reader rebuts rant on graduation ceremonies at the Star
Editor:
This is directed to the person who called in with a rant about the RRHS graduation.
I am sorry you have no relatives that want to share in your child's graduation ceremony. It must be a lonely life you have not having family that wants to celebrate such a huge accomplishment with you.
But from the tone of your rant, who can blame them?
The person who made the original rant was very sad that their child's grandparents all could not attend, not the silly reference you made to the "cousins of you stepsisters' half-brothers. You seem to be a very cold, selfish person.
My child doesn't graduate until next year and I will beg Sue Cleveland to reconsider having the ceremony at The Pit so all my child's siblings and spouses, and his 80-year- old grandparents, and his niece and whoever else that wants to share in this very emotional, happy time in my child's life can attend.
You keep your two extra tickets. I doubt you'll be able to get popcorn this night, but you enjoy. I hope your child has a happy memory and isn't hurt or upset because their extended family doesn't wish to attend.
I know someone will be good enough to give this person an extra ticket so the grandparents are all able to attend.
Not all people are as heartless as your rant leads me to believe you are. Just a question though. What do the football games and the band have to do with graduation, except that some of the band will be performing at the graduation?
Generally speaking, if I go to see my child play at halftime my family stays for the entire game and loudly roots for the football team (there is a lot of us). Do you applaud the band?
Yes, I am signing this letter, I am not ashamed of my feelings.
March 18, 2007 9:50 PM
Mary M said...
School Officials:
If you don’t change the graduation back to the Pit,
My daughter won’t be going to her graduation.
I will also cancel my announcements as we can’t invite everyone who wants to go so why hurt the other relatives that want to go. Thanks for your help in ruining my daughter’s graduation.
Hope this doesn’t happen to your child when they graduate.
It won’t because you will do what suits your own needs.
Mary M
March 18, 2007 9:52 PM
Vince said...
Take the GRADUATION back to the Pit like all of the other Rio Rancho graduations.
We won’t get to have all our loved ones there who have contributed to our getting our diploma and to celebrate and enjoy with us.
March 18, 2007 9:57 PM
America said...
PLEASE LISTEN:
Let the Graduates decide for themselves and then we can go from there.
This is America and we have the right to vote.
H. S.
March 18, 2007 9:58 PM
N. Kennedy said...
To Whom It May Concern:
I am writing in regards to the change of the graduation to the Santa Ana Star Center from The Pit that came up just 2 months prior to my granddaughter graduating.
I have been in my granddaughter’s life since she was born and so have her uncles, aunts, cousins (they are more like her brothers and sisters then cousins).
I was there when she graduated from kindergarten.
I was there when she graduated from 5th grade to go into middle school and
I thought I would be there when she graduated from high school.
But we don’t have enough tickets and to press you or anyone for more tickets just cheats someone else that is just as deserving, from going.
Don’t you all see that?
Sure there will be those that will have more then enough tickets because they were able to finagle them better.
Then that means someone else will go with out.
Someone wins someone loses, leave that to a sporting event not a person’s life.
At a family gathering we had on Friday, yes a total of 25 members of family and friends were present, who knew one girl could have that many special people in her life.
We never counted until now.
She had to tell all of us (I could tell it was the hardest thing she had to do) her uncles, aunts and cousins that the most rewarding and greatest achievement that she has accomplished so far, will not be celebrated with ALL of her family.
Only a few will be able to see her walk up proudly, take her diploma, look up at her family representing her and wish she could have had them all there like normal when we celebrate birthdays and any other special occasions.
Rio Rancho School system you took the right away from us and at such a short notice?
Don’t we get any say in this or have a vote I thought this was America?
I know others have already stated this but I’m going to state it again, I thought this was America?
Don’t the graduates get to decide where they want to have THEIR graduation? Please let her family celebrate with her and change it back to The Pit.
Please don’t stress the graduates more by making them choose who can or can’t go. Let her have everyone important in her life there.
She and all the other graduates need to focus on the graduation and not the harm you have already done to this special occasion.
Let them focus on what is important, their grades, planning what they will do from now on, they are all heading into the next phase of their lives.
I don’t write, see, hear or walk very well. I am not very good with words, sorry. But I want each of you to do is think of your grandfather and then your grandmother for a few minutes and think about how much they mean to you.
I’m way down the hill and who knows when the Lord is going to call me home?
It won’t be long.
I’m not asking for extra tickets I already explained that.
But, I am asking that we return to The Pit.
Please accept this for all of the other grandparents that can’t contact you or write you.
I know for sure they all want to be at the granddaughter or grandson’s graduation.
Let the change happen and see what a change will do to your school’s attitude.
Pay it Forward Now!!!!
Be the better person and speak up for our children.
I am praying that you understand and do the right thing.
N. Kennedy
March 18, 2007 10:29 PM
o say said...
If you have never read the words here is your chance
O say, can you see, by the dawn’s early light,
What so proudly we hailed at the twilight’s last gleaming,
Whose broad stripes and bright stars, through the perilous fight,
O’er the ramparts we watched, were so gallantly streaming?
And the rockets’ red glare, the bombs bursting in air,
Gave proof through the night that our flag was still there;
O say, does that star-spangled banner yet wave
O’er the land of the free and the home of the brave?
On the shore, dimly seen thro’ the mist of the deep,
Where the foe’s haughty host in dread silence reposes,
What is that which the breeze, o’er the towering steep,
As it fitfully blows, half conceals, half discloses?
Now it catches the gleam of the morning’s first beam,
In full glory reflected, now shines on the stream
’Tis the star-spangled banner. Oh! long may it wave
O’er the land of the free and the home of the brave!
And where is that band who so vauntingly swore
That the havoc of war and the battle’s confusion
A home and a country should leave us no more?
Their blood has washed out their foul footstep’s pollution.
No refuge could save the hireling and slave
From the terror of flight, or the gloom of the grave,
And the star-spangled banner in triumph doth wave
O’er the land of the free and the home of the brave.
Oh! thus be it ever, when freemen shall stand
Between their loved homes and the war’s desolation,
Blest with vict’ry and peace, may the Heav’n-rescued land
Praise the Pow’r that hath made and preserved us a nation!
Then conquer we must, when our cause it is just,
And this be our motto: "In God is our trust."
And the star-spangled banner in triumph shall wave
O’er the land of the free and the home of the brave.
March 18, 2007 10:34 PM
Abe said...
Four score and seven years ago our fathers brought forth on this continent a new nation, conceived in liberty and dedicated to the proposition that all men are created equal.
Now we are engaged in a great civil war, testing whether that nation or any nation so conceived and so dedicated can long endure. We are met on a great battlefield of that war. We have come to dedicate a portion of that field as a final resting-place for those who here gave their lives that that nation might live. It is altogether fitting and proper that we should do this. But in a larger sense, we cannot dedicate, we cannot consecrate, we cannot hallow this ground. The brave men, living and dead who struggled here have consecrated it far above our poor power to add or detract. The world will little note nor long remember what we say here, but it can never forget what they did here.
It is for us the living rather to be dedicated here to the unfinished work which they who fought here have thus far so nobly advanced. It is rather for us to be here dedicated to the great task remaining before us--that from these honored dead we take increased devotion to that cause for which they gave the last full measure of devotion--that we here highly resolve that these dead shall not have died in vain, that this nation under God shall have a new birth of freedom, and that government of the people, by the people, for the people shall not perish from the earth.
March 18, 2007 10:38 PM
the pursuit of Happiness said...
I still get chills when I read this, this is for all of RRPS. It might be a great idea that you really read this.
When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume, among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed, by their Creator, with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness.
That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles, and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.
Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object, evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.
Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let the Facts be submitted to a candid world.
He has refused his Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.
He has forbidden his Governors to pass Laws of immediate and pressing importance, unless suspended in their operation till his Assent should be obtained; and when so suspended, he has utterly neglected to attend to them.
He has refused to pass other Laws for the accommodation of large districts of people, unless those people would relinquish the right of Representation in the Legislature, a right inestimable to them and formidable to tyrants only.
He has called together legislative bodies at places unusual, uncomfortable, and distant from the depository of their Public Records, for the sole purpose of fatiguing them into compliance with his measures.
He has dissolved Representative Houses repeatedly, for opposing with manly firmness of his invasions on the rights of the people.
He has refused for a long time, after such dissolutions, to cause others to be elected, whereby the Legislative Powers, incapable of Annihilation, have returned to the People at large for their exercise; the State remaining in the mean time exposed to all the dangers of invasion from without, and convulsions within.
He has endeavoured to prevent the population of these States; for that purpose obstructing the Laws for Naturalization of Foreigners; refusing to pass others to encourage their migrations hither, and raising the conditions of new Appropriations of Lands.
He has obstructed the Administration of Justice by refusing his Assent to Laws for establishing Judiciary Powers.
He has made Judges dependent on his Will alone for the tenure of their offices, and the amount and payment of their salaries.
He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harass our people and eat out their substance.
He has kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies without the Consent of our legislatures.
He has affected to render the Military independent of and superior to the Civil Power.
He has combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution, and unacknowledged by our laws; giving his Assent to their Acts of pretended Legislation:
For quartering large bodies of armed troops among us:
For protecting them, by a mock Trial from punishment for any Murders which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these States:
For cutting off our Trade with all parts of the world:
For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent:
For depriving us in many cases, of the benefit of Trial by Jury:
For transporting us beyond Seas to be tried for pretended offences:
For abolishing the free System of English Laws in a neighbouring Province, establishing therein an Arbitrary government, and enlarging its Boundaries so as to render it at once an example and fit instrument for introducing the same absolute rule into these Colonies
For taking away our Charters, abolishing our most valuable Laws and altering fundamentally the Forms of our Governments:
For suspending our own Legislatures, and declaring themselves invested with power to legislate for us in all cases whatsoever.
He has abdicated Government here, by declaring us out of his Protection and waging War against us.
He has plundered our seas, ravaged our coasts, burnt our towns, and destroyed the lives of our people.
He is at this time transporting large Armies of foreign Mercenaries to compleat the works of death, desolation, and tyranny, already begun with circumstances of Cruelty & Perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous ages, and totally unworthy the Head of a civilized nation.
He has constrained our fellow Citizens taken Captive on the high Seas to bear Arms against their Country, to become the executioners of their friends and Brethren, or to fall themselves by their Hands.
He has excited domestic insurrections amongst us, and has endeavoured to bring on the inhabitants of our frontiers, the merciless Indian Savages whose known rule of warfare, is an undistinguished destruction of all ages, sexes and conditions.
In every stage of these Oppressions We have Petitioned for Redress in the most humble terms: Our repeated Petitions have been answered only by repeated injury. A Prince whose character is thus marked by every act which may define a Tyrant, is unfit to be the ruler of a free people.
Nor have We been wanting in attentions to our British brethren. We have warned them from time to time of attempts by their legislature to extend an unwarrantable jurisdiction over us. We have reminded them of the circumstances of our emigration and settlement here. We have appealed to their native justice and magnanimity, and we have conjured them by the ties of our common kindred to disavow these usurpations, which, would inevitably interrupt our connections and correspondence. They too have been deaf to the voice of justice and of consanguinity. We must, therefore, acquiesce in the necessity, which denounces our Separation, and hold them, as we hold the rest of mankind, Enemies in War, in Peace Friends.
We, therefore, the Representatives of the United States of America, in General Congress, Assembled, appealing to the Supreme Judge of the world for the rectitude of our intentions, do, in the Name, and by Authority of the good People of these Colonies, solemnly publish and declare, That these United Colonies are, and of Right ought to be Free and Independent States; that they are Absolved from all Allegiance to the British Crown, and that all political connection between them and the State of Great Britain, is and ought to be totally dissolved; and that as Free and Independent States, they have full Power to levy War, conclude Peace, contract Alliances, establish Commerce, and to do all other Acts and Things which Independent States may of right do. And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes and our sacred Honor.
March 18, 2007 10:48 PM
very "many" said...
· A newspaper article in the newspaper states “many” parents called asking to have the graduation changed to the Santa Ana Star owned by the casino/center hockey rink, there will now be “many more parents calling to complain that this was not a well thought out idea. Per the newspaper a handful of parents requested this? This does not go over very well to Everyone affected regarding the decision process and the person or persons behind it. “Many”? How many was “many? Lets put this to a vote, just do the math if 10,000+ persons can’t attend, then clearly there are “many” more then the “many” the administration is stating wanted this change, just think about this logically.
March 18, 2007 10:57 PM
Gino said...
· http://129.24.2.119/fbonline5/calendar.asp?filter=&month=5&day=19&year=2007&x=14&y=6 Please paste this info into your browser, or you might be able to click on it, the original Graduation date of 5/19 is still open. We can return to “The Pit”. Regarding your decision to change this year’s Graduation to the owned by the casino/center hockey rink - The Rio Rancho High School Agenda Book clearly states the Graduation will be at “The Pit”. This is what we used to plan out this important event in our Child’s life.
March 18, 2007 11:04 PM
knock knock said...
Knock! Knock!
who's there?
PIT!
PIT who!
PITiful decision by the school to change the graduation!
March 18, 2007 11:09 PM
CYNTHIA said...
Our Graduate has three (3) generations of over 50 relatives, including his parents and two (2) Brothers that Graduated at “The Pit”.
All of those generations no longer live in NM, but we are tight group.
We participate in Family Reunions and the turnout is huge.
Someone already noted not to penalize large families and this is true.
We need a lot more then six (6) tickets, sorry.
We adhere to the philosophy go forth and multiply, we did and we do.
Now we have an “owned by the casino/center hockey rink” venue to look forward to that is just too small.
We are talking in circles here and I have read and heard enough evidence to confirm the school’s decision is totally wrong and unfair.
Sorry, this inappropriate decision and how it is being forced upon everyone is way, way out of line. Quoting others here, “we have rights”, “this is America”, hell someone submitted the Declaration of Independence for goodness sake!?
But, they are right!
Because there was no input from everyone, no vote and no Democracy, more like hypocrisy and dictatorship!
There are some classic rebuttals here I have really enjoyed reading them, they all sing the same song when all is said and done.
In support of GO BACK TO THE PIT.
March 19, 2007 6:04 AM
loved the knock knock joke said...
We support what district office in Rio Rancho is doing in theory. We truly applaud you for that. We want to make that crystal clear.
Please take the time to carefully review everything submitted here. Every single rebuttal clearly counters any and all of your points, period. I am sorry but it is true. Everyone here makes an excellent point. Is the crux of this entire matter the security issue? The booing? What the cost would be? Past input from past boards?
Don’t punish the Class of 2007 for something they did not do, period. You are only saving $2K on the change and that means the 4,500 seats cost more then all of the potential seats at “The Pit”. We are paying more at the center per seat, period! You refer to input from past boards wanting it in Rio Rancho? The accurate facts are this current board maintains, “I see nothing, I hear nothing, I know nothing”! They are pointing the finger at you, district office! Past boards did not envision how BIG our schools were going to get! “Hindsight regarding all of the facts is 20/20”. We will probably break the state’s all-time record sometime soon; did the old boards see that coming? If they did then they should have realized that we would need a venue that could hold between 16 and 20K, not 4K, period. Sorry district office we like your idea in theory but the reality is this is not right, period. Not the way to bought and sold it. It is actually quite ugly because look at who is being impacted by it. The Pit is still available, renege on the contract and go back, period.
Sally
March 19, 2007 6:30 AM
sally again said...
So sorry about writing the word "period" so many times, yikes! My son just text message me and said to add, "you reap what you sow", transaltion, the way this has all been implemented is horrible and so so wrong and the ripple effect will not be positive now and in the long haul. I love my son, (period).
March 19, 2007 6:38 AM
Gary said...
it is not what you know it is who you know
it is not what you did rrps it is how you did it
in support of the return to the pit
lets not this one get by us lads
or it will be hell to pay
March 19, 2007 6:43 AM
comment 108 had said...
THIS BLOG SPOT REALLY REALLY REALLY IS GREAT KEEP UP THE OUTSTANDING WORK HERE WE ARE SO SO GLAD TO BE ABLE TO HAVE A VOICE IN THIS GIGANTIC MISTAKE AFFECTING OUR CHILDREN OUR FAMILIES OUR COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE
SUSAN
March 19, 2007 6:49 AM
thank you said...
Dr. Sue Cleveland,
Comes now the injured individuals.
The decision to vacate the University Arena for graduation ceremonies in May 2007 is erroneous and nefarious at best.
We ask for mercy and pray you see the complete facts as they have transpired.
We hold you fully responsible and find you completely culpable of any and all wrongdoing and include Richard Von Ancken.
As it is not our intentions to shame you publicly more so to reason with you on all correct and factual counts.
The injured specifically request you to reconfirm your original position and proceed with said ceremonies in whole at noted location.
As you are the responsible party and have full care of this matter in complete finality we encourage you Godspeed.
We further insist on your expeditious action.
Thank you.
March 19, 2007 7:25 AM
not crazy said...
Save my brother's sanity!
Please move the Rio Rancho High School graduation ceremony back to The PIT.
Right now, dammit!
March 19, 2007 8:42 AM
Dag nabit said...
"don't push me cause i'm close to the edge
i'm trying not to lose my head.....
it's like a jungle sometimes it makes me wonder" why you changed it from THE PIT?!
March 19, 2007 8:59 AM
George D said...
Dr. Sue Cleveland and Mr. Von Anken
Please be respectfully advised that after you have read everything here along with all of the newspaper statements, the news coverage, persons calling, petitions, discussions, complaints and you still don’t see the “Big picture”?
Then please put yourselves in our shoes - we absolutely were not given enough notice, we were not allowed to vote, there are people flying in, all of the expenses involved, elderly Grandparents, Relatives and Loved Ones that won’t get to go, along with over 10,000+ displaced persons and the clear fact the new venue is too small.
Each Graduate has a supporting cast that absolutely deserves to be in attendance!
And there are many, many more important reasons to have this celebration at “The Pit”.
We are truly shocked that you don’t get this?!
Then if you still don’t understand without a doubt we all have a very, very serious problem in RRPS, and it starts at the top.
The correct choice is so obvious even outsiders that have nothing to gain can unbiasedly see the problem and the simple solution in this matter.
George
March 19, 2007 10:00 AM
Lets vote now said...
Please allow the parents the legal guardians and seniors vote. Put this problem to a FAIR vote.
March 19, 2007 10:02 AM
Norm said...
Ditto:
Lets vote now said...
Please allow the parents the legal guardians and seniors vote. Put this problem to a FAIR vote.
Norm
March 19, 2007 10:03 AM
Monics said...
I also agree:
Lets vote now said...
Please allow the parents the legal guardians and seniors vote. Put this problem to a FAIR vote.
Monica
March 19, 2007 10:04 AM
Ernesto said...
Si,
Lets vote now said...
Please allow the parents the legal guardians and seniors vote. Put this problem to a FAIR vote.
Ernesto
March 19, 2007 10:05 AM
Julia said...
I am the mother of four children and writing this on behalf of my husband and family. Our son is graduating and we don't have enough tickets. Four grandparents, two parents and three siblings comes out to nine guests. We are three tickets short. A person noted earlier that they don't want to shortchange anyone out of a ticket, neither do we.
You are making us choose who will get to go and you are making us cheat someone else from going.
My son has asked for extra tickets and there is none available.
We are asking Dr. Cleveland to allow families and graduates to vote and return this celebration to the Pit.
Thank you,
Julia
March 19, 2007 10:15 AM
Julia said...
Sorry, I wrote a comment a little bit ago about needing nine tickets. I forgot to add that this completely leaves out aunts, uncles, cousins, neigbors etc.
You are making us choose who will get to go and you are making us cheat someone else out of going and you making us leave out family and friends we wanted to go.
We are asking Dr. Cleveland to allow families and graduates to vote and return this celebration to the Pit.
Thank you,
Julia
March 19, 2007 10:31 AM
2007 Seniors said...
http://rioranchogradsunite.blogspot.com/
!!!!!!!!!!!!!ATTENTION SENIORS!!!!!!!!!!!!
· PLEASE CONTACT http://rioranchogradsunite.blogspot.com/ or email: cmj2nc@aol.com TODAY!
· CALL RRPS DISTRICT TODAY IF YOU OR YOUR PARENTS ARE CONCERNED ABOUT GRADUATION BEING CHANGED TO THE SANTA ANA STAR CENTER (896-0667 SUPERINTENDENT & SCHOOL BOARD).
· TELL THEM YOU WANT IT AT “THE PIT”
· MAKE SURE YOUR PARENTS KNOW YOUR GRADUATION ANNOUNCEMENTS WILL STILL SAY “THE PIT” ON THE ANNOUNCEMENT BUT THERE WILL BE AN INSERT STATING THE CHANGE (HOW TACKY) YOU CAN STILL GET A REFUND.
· REMEMBER THERE IS ONLY ONE LANE ENTERING AND ONE LANE LEAVING THE CENTER IMAGINE THE MESS FOR BOTH STUDENTS AND PARENTS HAVING TO DRIVE THERE.
· WE SHOULD HAVE A SAY IN WHERE WE WANT TO GRADUATE; REMEMBER SENIORS IN THE WORDS OF OUR PRINCIPAL “THE CHOICE IS YOURS!!!!!!!!!!”
March 19, 2007 10:53 AM
Anonymous said...
Do Rio Rancho Parents have no rights!!!!!!!?????????
Is their anyone else out there that wants to invite their extended relatives to their son or daughters graduation? Please, who has only 6 relatives to invite, unless you only have one kid, no aunts?
Uncles, cousins and only one set of grandparents then yes you are fine. But what about the graduates that have 2 sets of grandparents, 12 brothers and sisters and their wives or husbands, their kids and their other aunts and uncles on the other side. We have always supported our nieces, nephews, cousins, grandchildren and want to when she/he graduates and accepts her/his diploma. Why should we not be allowed to go see them graduate and feel their excitement that they are finally finished with one chapter in their life.
March 19, 2007 10:55 AM
Brad back to the Pit has said...
I'm on my lunch break, this blog deal is really great. My mom said to check out the weblog because everyone is concerned. Thank you for being concerned enough to get involved. Seniors lets tell them we want to go back to the PIT.
Shout out to Becky!
March 19, 2007 10:56 AM
Betty said...
Rio Rancho High School, we agree and support your return the UNM PIT,
Frank and Betty
March 19, 2007 10:57 AM
lets vote said...
Please consider this very important fact, if they put it to a vote now right now, the Graduation would go back to “The Pit" please really think about this, they are displacing over 10,000+ persons!
March 19, 2007 12:34 PM
william said...
THAT TAKES THE PROVERBIAL “CAKE”!
INPUT FROM ONLY A CHOSEN FEW OR WHO YELLED THE LOUDEST!
NOT EVERYONE WAS ALLOWED TO VOTE OR GIVE ANY INPUT!
DISTRICT’S EGO IS HURT BECAUSE THEY WERE BOOED LAST YEAR!
NO WONDER THEY WERE BOOED!
DECISION TO CHANGE JUST HAPPENED AND NOT EVERYONE KNOWS ABOUT IT, I JUST GOT AN EMAIL TODAY!??
WHAT IS UP WITH THAT, I NEVER GOT THE MEMO?
PLANS HAVE ALREADY BEEN MADE!
DISTRICT IS NOW USING THE WE ALREADY SIGNED THE CONTRACT EXCUSE!
I OWN A PAPER SHREDDER!
10,000 PEOPLE THAT WANT TO BE THERE CAN’T BE THERE!
ANNOUNCEMENTS STILL HAVE “THE PIT” ON THEM, THAT IS BEYOND TACKY, THAT IS RIGHT ABOVE B. S. IN MY BOOK!
LAST I CHECKED WE LIVE IN AMERICA!
WE HAVE RIGHTS, HERE!
IF THE DISCTRICT GETS AWAY WITH THIS SMOKE AND MIRRORS JOB, WE HAVE ALL JUST WITNESSED A CRIME!
OH MY GOODNESS GRACIOUS, THESE PEOPLE HAVE HAD AUTHORITY OVER OUR KIDS!
I AM FURIOUS!!!
I ALSO WANTED TO THANK ALL OF YOU THAT PUT THE BLOG TOGETHER YOU REALLY DID A GREAT JOB I WILL PASS IT ON!
I WOULD LIKE TO WRITE HOW I REALLY FEEL BUT I THINK YOU WOULD NOT WANT TO HAVE SUCH ANGER, RAGE, PROFANITY IN YOUR NICE WEBSITE!
WILLIAM
March 19, 2007 12:38 PM
Phil said...
Herein, confirms that the person or persons involved in making this last minute decision/change did not take into full account all of this information! If this was not a last minute decision, then why did it take until March 2007 to spring it on us? Was there a vote? Was balanced input solicited? Who, What, When, Where, Why and How did this come about? Please be respectfully advised that we are not in the minority here, we are in the majority here and absolutely not at all happy with this last minute change! Lets put it to a vote now.
Phil
March 19, 2007 12:40 PM
ditto again said...
Ditto
SERIOUSLY…SIMPLY, WHAT PRICE DO YOU PLACE ON A CELEBRATION OF LOVE AND LIFE?! THE COST THE SAVINGS THAT MRS. CLEVELAND AND MR. VONANCKEN ALLUDE TO ABSOLUTELY DO NOT OUT WEIGH WHAT WILL BE COMPLETELY LOST! YES, EVEN TO ATTEMPT TO PLACE A PRICE ON THIS ENTIRE PROCESS, CELEBRATION AND EVENT IS INAPPROPRIATE BECAUSE IT IS TRULY “PRICELESS”! TO ARGUE THIS IMPORTANT POINT IS IGNORANCE AND…..WELL….VERY WRONG.
Norm
March 19, 2007 12:41 PM
time to vote said...
6-ticket limit. One Graduate, has 4 Grandparents, 2 Parents, that equals 6 tickets, but what about divorced families that would now have 6 Grandparents and 4 Parents, that equals 8? That does not even include Sisters, Brothers, Aunts, Uncles, Nieces, Nephews, Cousins, Loved Ones, Neighbors, past Teachers, Employers and Friends!
We want to have all families and the graduates vote
Vicky
March 19, 2007 1:00 PM
concur said...
We concur because:
6-ticket limit. One Graduate, has 4 Grandparents, 2 Parents, that equals 6 tickets, but what about divorced families that would now have 6 Grandparents and 4 Parents, that equals 8? That does not even include Sisters, Brothers, Aunts, Uncles, Nieces, Nephews, Cousins, Loved Ones, Neighbors, past Teachers, Employers and Friends!
Mithcell
March 19, 2007 1:01 PM
Lou said...
This is true:
If you take EVERYTHING into consideration, both sides of the coin, ALL of their points, and now their explanations and contradictions to not concede. This is a mess; we cannot even begin to explain how bad this truly is. The very Best thing they can do at this point is to take this celebration this Graduation back to “The Pit" and then they can regroup for next year, that way Graduates and Loved Ones can actually be allowed input for next year. It won’t be one sided like now and the powers that be would have a whole year to explain their logic.
Lou
March 19, 2007 1:12 PM
Joe said...
Go back to THE PIT
We ourselves witnessed 3 Graduations at “The Pit” last year because of our Nephews Graduating, “The Pit” more then handled the flow of people coming to celebrate. These very same Graduations would not have fit in a 4,500-seat facility. And we would have not been able to be present for each of our nephew’s Graduations if it was limited to 6. We filmed each of these events for our Sister and Brothers and our Nephews, a gift that they will always cherish.
Joe
March 19, 2007 1:32 PM
to the pit said...
2007 - Largest Graduating Class in the entire state and in our school’s history.
GO RAMS GO BACK TO THE PIT
Carl
March 19, 2007 1:43 PM
Sam said...
Please help!
We are asking you all please change the Graduation back to "The Pit”!
The date is still open and available at this venue.
For the “GREATER GOOD” GO BACK TO THE PIT!
Hey even our Basketball Team and Fans had to go to Albuquerque for the entire tournament and Rocked the Pit”!
March 19, 2007 2:51 PM
Liz said...
THINK ABOUT THIS!!!
Everyone here has a good point but really, really think about this:
Driving to; Parking; Leaving; Driving home!
How much traffic comes in and out of the pit when you are at an event?
But at least there you have 4 different ways to get in and out and a new 4 lane freeway out, so the time to get home if you live in Rio Rancho or on the west side is maybe a half an hour or so, not bad.
At the Santa Ana, with 700 to 750 students, which at least three fourths and more will be driving themselves, since they have to be there 2 hours early. Or their parents will be driving them. Plus school staff and Santa Ana staff that have to get there to prepare. Then all the families will be driving and the other fortunate ones that get to go, so total you are looking at a lot of automobiles driving there all at once. You will have to drive through Rio Rancho to get to a 2 lane road, with ONLY a 1 lane entrance, now that is dangerous! Could and accident occur? Yes! That will not cut down on driving time it will take you longer.
What about the parking?
That too, is going to be a major mess, and will not properly accommodate all of those vehicles. That will also add to the delay before the graduation even starts.
Now when it is time to go home you are looking at all those people and cars trying to get out of an area that has ONLY 1 way out and back to a 2 lane road! Here you are looking at a long wait if you are lucky and with no accidents. If there is an accident it is really going to be a major mess because then everyone heading in that direction will have to wait, do you get the picture?
I’d rather be coming out of the pit with more ways out to help us if something goes wrong, where if God forbid someone gets in an accident, at least you can find a way to turn around or find another road to turn on to.
What if someone gets in an accident coming from or going to the Santa Ana, where are our choices to get out of traffic? WAIT, there are NONE because there is ONLY 1 way in and 1 way out and it is a 2 lane road with NO turn around area anywhere except when you are on 528 or Northern!!!
TO ALL OF THE OFFICALS WHO CHANGED THIS!!
Start praying no one gets hurt on their way there or the way home because then you will have legal problems to deal with! God forbid a loss of life occurs!
Nobody wants that?!
Better yet change the graduation Back to the Pit and avoid all this.
THINK ABOUT THAT!!!!!!!
March 19, 2007 3:23 PM
? said...
Who is going to pay for my families airline tickets?
I cannot get a refund now.
This has to go back to the pit!
Glen
March 19, 2007 3:27 PM
Alan said...
The actual average amount of persons attending per each Senior for prior Graduations was about 19, some would have more, some less but that is the average, within the last few years there was no official ticket (Dr. Cleveland said the Class of 1999 was at Johnson Gym).
And within recent years Rio Rancho has always packed “The Pit”.
But now there are tickets and it has been limited to exactly 6.
Also there is a claim that 2 extra tickets will supposedly be given out to bring the total to 8 however this will still not remedy this poor plan.
No amount will remedy this because 4,500 seats is around 10,000+ persons short that won’t be allowed to attend.
Mathematically 6 times 750 equals 4,500 so not very many Graduates will be getting over 6 tickets.
This has to go back to the PIT.
I have heard they are trying like hell to push it to 5,000, seats that will still leave out right 10,000 people.
You can't right your wrong by adding some seats how is it you don't grasp this?
Alan
March 19, 2007 3:35 PM
gene said...
My daughter wants all of her family at her graduation.
Mom, dad, sisters, brother, aunts, uncles, grandparents and cousins.
That comes to 16!
Don't make her choose who gets to go and who gets to stay home.
We all want to celebrate with her.
BACK TO THE PIT!
Graduates and parents should have had a choice, it's our graduation, not the administrations!
March 19, 2007 3:39 PM
Pat said...
We are writing you to please take the time to read all this information and input and return this graduation to the pit.
Because valuable time is passing us by let the parents vote on this that way we can put this whole mess to rest.
We are getting sick over this it is not right, thank you.
Pat
March 19, 2007 3:58 PM
To Sue Cleveland said...
Sue Cleveland, you are going to get sued or have an injunction brought against you.
What comes around will go around.
Honestly, you are a much better person than this big mess.
Here is your time to shine and stop this ordeal.
You have not heard the end of this.
Comment after comment show you never let parents vote.
You only let certain people call in and complain.
There is nothing wrong with that as long as you let everyone state their case.
That has not happened yet.
Have a fair vote or take it back to the PIT.
I am reading between the lines you are trying very hard to do the right thing and keep the graduation safe.
But the way you are handling this mistake will not set well at all.
Listen, just by you going back to the PIT will calm the crowd.
Sue, do the right thing.
Kyle
March 19, 2007 4:06 PM
Jim said...
To save time and energy.
Please help!
We are asking you all please change the Graduation back to the “Pit”.
The date is still open and available at this venue.
For the “GREATER GOOD” GO BACK TO THE PIT!
Hey even our Basketball Team and Fans had to go to Albuquerque for the entire tournament and Rocked the Pit”!
March 19, 2007 4:10 PM
Tim said...
Attention all you school staff we do not agree with how you handled this graduation.
Everything submitted here hits the nail on the head.
We need you to listen and GO BACK TO THE PIT
thank you,
Tim
March 19, 2007 4:13 PM
Bobby D said...
"Come writers and critics
Who prophesize with your pen
And keep your eyes wide
The chance won't come again
And don't speak too soon
For the wheel's still in spin
And there's no tellin' who
That it's namin'.
For the loser now
Will be later to win
For the times they are a-changin'."
March 19, 2007 4:37 PM
Rose said...
The Rio Rancho High School Principal left parents out of a significant decision.
Parents were told the graduation would be held at the PIT which holds up to 17,000 people. The Star Center, at most, might hold 4500.
This year, RRHS has one of the largest graduating classes in recent history.
Plans should have been discussed with the people it most affects.
Last year the PIT was packed with families and the graduating class was not as large.
Let's rethink this now!
March 19, 2007 4:40 PM
Mandy said...
CHANGE IT BACK TO THE PIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I WANT MY FAMILY TO SEE ME GRADUATE!
March 19, 2007 6:59 PM
Chris said...
This blog information tells the truth!
RRPS NEEDS to change their decision.
March 19, 2007 7:01 PM
senior said...
I like that the venue is closer to home, but I would rather have my entire family and grandparents and relatives see my special day.
It’s despicable that the administration did this at the last minute and without anyone’s consent.
March 19, 2007 7:04 PM
Dad said...
RIO RANCHO PUBLIC SCHOOLS:
Do something right and change this graduation back to the PIT.
Eric
March 19, 2007 7:07 PM
grandpa said...
RE: RIO RANCHO GRADUATION
Please relocate the graduation ceremony to The PIT. Our family will not have enough tickets for all of us to witness our grandson's graduation.
Thank you
March 19, 2007 7:13 PM
Walter said...
At this point, no fair or reasonable explanation can out weigh ALL the reasons why the Graduation should be at “The Pit”.
Go ahead and weigh each and every matter honestly and fairly, both sides, the “proof is in the pudding”, fact, the way this entire decision was imposed has been handled, is wrong and very unfair.
If it were above board, we would not be writing this.
March 19, 2007 7:19 PM
max said...
Quoting a famous movie line - "We are mad as hell and we are not going to take it"!
We concur with the blog and count us in as a family against this negative decision imposed upon our children, PASS IT ON!:
Excellent newscast, copy this info here into your browser (there will be a short commercial first):
www.koat.com/video/11177714/index.html?taf=alb
March 19, 2007 7:23 PM
P. O.'d said...
Hello Jerry,
I just found the web site blog thingy I will make sure to pass it on to other families that have seniors graduating.
Thanks for letting me know.
Dear Rio Rancho district office.
Upset is an understatement, we are P.O'd big time!!!
You are dazed and confused if you think people were just going to let you slide.
HELL NO!
Sorry guys, you need to regroup, rethink and return to the PIT!
Kay
March 19, 2007 7:29 PM
Observer said...
"Parents of Rio Rancho graduates of 2007. Hey, I'll bet you all don't know that the graduation announcements that you undoubtedly spend hundreds of dollars on will tell your family and friends that your child is graduating from the University of New Mexico basketball arena, not the Santa Ana Star Center. Don't believe me? Call the printer."
March 19, 2007 9:12 PM
observer said...
"Graduation should be held at The Pit.
Somebody got that one wrong."
March 19, 2007 9:14 PM
discrimination said...
I am a Hispanic-Latino, Anglo American woman.
This decision is DISCRIMINATORY:
FACT: Class grade level seniors, young women and young men were scheduled to graduate from high school by a set location determined by date and time, at the original venue, which is the University of New Mexico Arena also known as The Pit.
FACT: Rio Rancho School personnel did willfully and knowingly change the original venue to the Star center owned by the Santa Ana casino with two (2) months remaining in the school year.
FACT: This school personnel imposition, requirement and mandate willfully and knowingly impedes families with a specific amount of children, parents, grandparents and alienates and excludes each of them from this public event where you are not monetarily charged to attend but you are allowed entry by rationed tickets only.
FACT: This school personnel imposition, requirement and mandate willfully and knowingly includes the dismissal of aunts, uncles, cousins, in-laws and generations of living relatives.
FACT: This school personnel imposition, requirement and mandate willfully and knowingly includes the dismissal of any persons that have been deemed friend.
FACT: This school personnel imposition, requirement and mandate venue change from said, UNM Arena to the Star center assisted in this impeding, dismissal and exclusion of persons.
FACT: This venue change occurred as told by school personnel, when unnamed “persons” asked, complained and insisted said change occur. Exact time frame is undetermined.
FACT: An undetermined “many” persons superseded the one hundred percent availability of any input from the rest of all other persons directly affected by this willful change of venue.
FACT: School personnel admit to willfully and knowingly understand and stated they considered the entire matter affecting everyone! Thus confirming their complete negligence and ignorance of the seriousness of the matter.
FACT: No votes were cast formally or informally by one hundred percent of all persons affected. School personnel both willfully and knowingly did not utilize this method and tool.
FACT: No poll or other data was investigated and analyzed formally or informally by one hundred percent of all persons affected. School personnel both willfully and knowingly did not utilize this method and tool.
FACT: School personnel both willfully and knowingly did impose, require and mandate all actions causing an undetermined amount of persons to be adversely affected, emotionally, psychologically and financially. Contrary to the pursuit of happiness.
FACT: Said discrimination affects directly and indirectly both genders, all ages and all races.
FACT: An actual count of each nationality will determine which nationalities are affected and to what degree.
FACT: Your immediate family is absolutely penalized by the amount of persons in your household or related by blood. Example if you have 4 living grandparents and 2 parents you have exhausted the rationed amount of tickets given. Regardless of how many siblings you have.
FACT: Or if you have 2 parents and 4 siblings not counting the graduate as a sibling you have exhausted the rationed tickets given. Regardless if you have grandparents.
FACT: Keep in mind we have families here that in fact were not raised by their blood mother or blood father.
FACT: All scenarios exclude anyone else regardless of relationship blood or otherwise.
FACT: Allowing each senior to allocate additional tickets at best confirms, that someone loses out. And this process is not wholly fair. This also leads to a myriad of other dynamics within the social interaction of each person.
FACT: Allocating additional tickets at best confirms, that someone loses out. And no process is wholly fair. First come first served is least fair. Other dynamics factor in.
FACT: to be continued
March 19, 2007 10:24 PM
I agree said...
THAT TAKES THE PROVERBIAL “CAKE”!
INPUT FROM ONLY A CHOSEN FEW OR WHO YELLED THE LOUDEST!
NOT EVERYONE WAS ALLOWED TO VOTE OR GIVE ANY INPUT!
DISTRICT’S EGO IS HURT BECAUSE THEY WERE BOOED LAST YEAR!
NO WONDER THEY WERE BOOED!
DECISION TO CHANGE JUST HAPPENED AND NOT EVERYONE KNOWS ABOUT IT, I JUST GOT AN EMAIL TODAY!??
WHAT IS UP WITH THAT, I NEVER GOT THE MEMO?
PLANS HAVE ALREADY BEEN MADE!
DISTRICT IS NOW USING THE WE ALREADY SIGNED THE CONTRACT EXCUSE!
I OWN A PAPER SHREDDER!
10,000 PEOPLE THAT WANT TO BE THERE CAN’T BE THERE!
ANNOUNCEMENTS STILL HAVE “THE PIT” ON THEM, THAT IS BEYOND TACKY, THAT IS RIGHT ABOVE B. S. IN MY BOOK!
LAST I CHECKED WE LIVE IN AMERICA!
WE HAVE RIGHTS, HERE!
IF THE DISCTRICT GETS AWAY WITH THIS SMOKE AND MIRRORS JOB, WE HAVE ALL JUST WITNESSED A CRIME!
OH MY GOODNESS GRACIOUS, THESE PEOPLE HAVE HAD AUTHORITY OVER OUR KIDS!
I AM FURIOUS!!!
I ALSO WANTED TO THANK ALL OF YOU THAT PUT THE BLOG TOGETHER YOU REALLY DID A GREAT JOB I WILL PASS IT ON!
I WOULD LIKE TO WRITE HOW I REALLY FEEL BUT I THINK YOU WOULD NOT WANT TO HAVE SUCH ANGER, RAGE, PROFANITY IN YOUR NICE WEBSITE!
WILLIAM
March 19, 2007 10:32 PM
this too said...
Dr. Cleveland and Mr. VonAncken, I fully support you and respect all that you have to deal with, I am all the way on your side.
But I am motivated to write this to let you know that the way this entire matter was processed is absolutely wrong.
I think someone already wrote to allow everyone to have a say and that actually is the right way and is the way it has to be.
If we let this slide then who knows what will be next? It is too important and too many people are affected.
Yeah, I whole lot of people were booed last year and I did not agree with that. The only thing I will point out is we here in Rio Rancho are TOUGH! The graduation last year went on too long, people were getting restless and well, mad. If you think downsizing will help, well then you have not learned from last year. I have seen first hand what just 20 people can do if they choose to get rowdy. The Pit has had graduations since forever. There are many more things that fostered that and RRPS needs to take a good look at themselves in the mirror and that is actually the truth.
I did not agree with what happened at last year's graduation. But I sure don't agree with all of this.
It smells like, money as in kickbacks, or politics, or stupidity is driving this. What else could it be? Either someone is benefiting, or someone with power has an agenda, or you are deaf, dumb and blind? My apologies for being so blunt, but let us call it what it truly is. It is one of the three, or two of the three, or it is all three. If you stop and ask yourself why are we doing this hopefully you will find the answer.
I sincerely ask because what you are imposing and how you are imposing it is "DEAD WRONG". "I see said the blind man."
Additionally, if you would have had 4500 persons from last year’s graduation at the Star center, you would have still been booed. Consider that? Downsizing is not your problem. But what concerns me is with these shenanigans that you now refuse to bend on have only severely added to your woes.
Thanks for your time, and GO BACK TO THE PIT,
Ben
March 19, 2007 10:42 PM
hi to kay, but jerry said...
Great Kay!
Glad you found the web.
RRPS, hi.
Well you really did it this time didn't you? You moved the graduation. You never asked me. You only let certain people contact you and let you know what they wanted. Then you did what they wanted. And what you wanted. But you never asked me. Or Kay. Or actually anyone I know. An editorial in the Albuquerque Journal said that “many” more people wanted it at the star center? How could the editor know that? I never heard you took a poll or a vote? I’d like to put this to a vote right now. You know we stood a better chance if we flipped a coin. Then we had a 50/50 chance. This way we had 0 chance. Not good odds huh? Well back to the editor saying “many” more people wanted it changed. He must have heard that from you. He sure did not hear that from me. For sure if this was true you would have stated that first. Because that would have been an important piece of information huh? Well, I am willing to bet you a coke you are wrong and the editor is wrong. I bet you both more parents want this to “go back to the pit” (wow we have to quote that phrase now)!
Man, I going to win 2 cokes!
Yours truly,
Jerry
(not with Dean and not with Ben, just Jerry)
Hey, I’m referring to Dean Martin and Ben the ice cream dude.
March 19, 2007 11:08 PM
fundraiser said...
As a senior at Rio Rancho, I would like to have the graduation moved back to University Arena.
I have a large family – some of which are flying overseas to attend – that have bought tickets and now cannot attend.
If funds are an issue, why can’t the school have a fundraiser?
Take our graduation back to the PIT
C
March 20, 2007 10:01 AM
Carol said...
BACK TO THE PIT NOW
OR
LET PARENTS VOTE NOW
March 20, 2007 10:09 AM
cancel said...
Hello
I am writing RRPS and asking that you cancel the contract and go back to the UNM PIT
thank you.
Liz
March 20, 2007 10:28 AM
ray said...
In support of returning the graduation to the Pit.
thank you
March 20, 2007 11:01 AM
K said...
Note: RRPS received my comment at the very beginning when this all started - and before any contracts were signed!
The decision to move the 2007 graduation was handled improperly and was the wrong decision. Parents should have been surveyed prior to the decision. Please let me know who was responsible for this decision. The current class sizes are too large to try to graduate anywhere smaller than the Pit. My wife and I have 5 children, one of which graduates this year. My parents, who have already bought airline tickets from Ohio, my wife's parent's and a couple sisters plan to attend just like the past two years. Who do I get to leave home with my allotment of six tickets? I know there will be many other people in the same situation. Do you really expect people to return their six tickets? The only chance I have of letting my family share the occasion is to find some friend who isn't using all of their tickets. I highly recommend you reconsider the decision and keep the Pit location while you still can.
March 20, 2007 11:11 AM
Paul said...
Consider this response as support for your efforts to returen our graduation to The Pit.
We agree with everything written here.
We will ask others to do the same
Paul
March 20, 2007 12:27 PM
amazing said...
It is truly is amazing what you can get done on the world wide web.
I came across this site as I was doing a search. We like that other families in Rio Rancho feel the same way as we do. Our family is asking those in charge to have the graduation at the location we were always told it would be. We have told our freind about this. Pass it on to everyone you know.
Oscar
March 20, 2007 12:32 PM
henry said...
HALLELUJAH
IT IS ABOUT TIME WE CHALLENGE THIS HUGE PROBLEM
GO BACK TO THE PIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
HENRY
March 20, 2007 12:48 PM
Nana said...
HALLELUJAH
IT IS ABOUT TIME WE CHALLENGE THIS HUGE PROBLEM
GO BACK TO THE PIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
NANA
March 20, 2007 1:00 PM
Jenny said...
HALLELUJAH
IT IS ABOUT TIME WE CHALLENGE THIS HUGE PROBLEM
GO BACK TO THE PIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
JENNY
March 20, 2007 1:01 PM
gloria said...
HALLELUJAH
IT IS ABOUT TIME WE CHALLENGE THIS HUGE PROBLEM
GO BACK TO THE PIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
GLORIA
March 20, 2007 1:02 PM
go back said...
HALLELUJAH
IT IS ABOUT TIME WE CHALLENGE THIS HUGE PROBLEM
GO BACK TO THE PIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Mel
March 20, 2007 1:02 PM
Art said...
HALLELUJAH
IT IS ABOUT TIME WE CHALLENGE THIS HUGE PROBLEM
GO BACK TO THE PIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Art
March 20, 2007 1:03 PM
Jill said...
HALLELUJAH
IT IS ABOUT TIME WE CHALLENGE THIS HUGE PROBLEM
GO BACK TO THE PIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
JILL
March 20, 2007 1:04 PM
support said...
HALLELUJAH
IT IS ABOUT TIME WE CHALLENGE THIS HUGE PROBLEM
GO BACK TO THE PIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
GWEN
March 20, 2007 1:04 PM
augie said...
HALLELUJAH
IT IS ABOUT TIME WE CHALLENGE THIS HUGE PROBLEM
GO BACK TO THE PIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Augie
March 20, 2007 1:08 PM
i hope this works said...
HALLELUJAH
IT IS ABOUT TIME WE CHALLENGE THIS HUGE PROBLEM
GO BACK TO THE PIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Janelle
March 20, 2007 1:37 PM
parents said...
HALLELUJAH
IT IS ABOUT TIME WE CHALLENGE THIS HUGE PROBLEM
GO BACK TO THE PIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
MANNY
March 20, 2007 2:13 PM
steve said...
HALLELUJAH
IT IS ABOUT TIME WE CHALLENGE THIS HUGE PROBLEM
GO BACK TO THE PIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Steve
March 20, 2007 2:32 PM
100% support said...
I just received this email and support this call to action 100%
I will also share this with EVERYONE I know.
HALLELUJAH
IT IS ABOUT TIME WE CHALLENGE THIS HUGE PROBLEM
GO BACK TO THE PIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WAYNE
March 20, 2007 3:54 PM
Anonymous said...
What about the extended family memebers from out of state that have already booked plane tickets? Your telling the parents sorry pick and choose your favorites who cares if feelings are hurt. That is crazy! The graduation should be moved back to The Pit so every family member that wants to be there can attend!!
March 20, 2007 3:57 PM
amy s said...
HALLELUJAH!!!!!!!!
IT IS ABOUT TIME WE CHALLENGE THIS HUGE PROBLEM
GO BACK TO THE PIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Amy S
March 20, 2007 3:58 PM
Connie said...
HALLELUJAH
IT IS ABOUT TIME WE CHALLENGE THIS HUGE PROBLEM
GO BACK TO THE PIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
CONNIE
March 20, 2007 4:00 PM
Brenda said...
HALLELUJAH
IT IS ABOUT TIME WE CHALLENGE THIS HUGE PROBLEM
GO BACK TO THE PIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
BRENDA and family
March 20, 2007 4:03 PM
dave said...
HALLELUJAH
IT IS ABOUT TIME WE CHALLENGE THIS HUGE PROBLEM
GO BACK TO THE PIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
DAVE
March 20, 2007 4:05 PM
dan the man said...
HALLELUJAH
IT IS ABOUT TIME WE CHALLENGE THIS HUGE PROBLEM
GO BACK TO THE PIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
DAN
March 20, 2007 4:09 PM
Bill said...
HALLELUJAH
IT IS ABOUT TIME WE CHALLENGE THIS HUGE PROBLEM
GO BACK TO THE PIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
BILL
March 20, 2007 4:12 PM
mike said...
HALLELUJAH
IT IS ABOUT TIME WE CHALLENGE THIS HUGE PROBLEM
GO BACK TO THE PIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
MIKE
March 20, 2007 4:14 PM
family said...
HALLELUJAH
IT IS ABOUT TIME WE CHALLENGE THIS HUGE PROBLEM
GO BACK TO THE PIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
BRIAN & family
March 20, 2007 4:31 PM
frank said...
FACT: The school personnel decision, imposition, requirement and mandate willfully and knowingly prohibits aunts, uncles, cousins, in-laws and generations of living relatives from attending the graduation. Depending upon the size of the family and who uses the 6 available tickets.
March 20, 2007 4:41 PM
Craig said...
I want my family to see me graduate and 6 tickets won’t be enough.
Rio Rancho schools needs to re-think their decision!
Return to the PIT!
Or allow parents and seniors to vote.
March 20, 2007 4:46 PM
j. b. said...
I support returning the graduation to The Pit.
J. B.
March 20, 2007 4:50 PM
kevin said...
I support returning the graduation to The Pit.
March 20, 2007 4:51 PM
howard said...
I support returning the graduation to The Pit.
March 20, 2007 4:52 PM
chris said...
I support returning the graduation to The Pit.
March 20, 2007 4:52 PM
joy said...
I support returning the graduation to The Pit.
March 20, 2007 5:06 PM
Karen said...
I support returning the graduation to The Pit.
March 20, 2007 5:07 PM
sheldon said...
I support returning the graduation to The Pit.
March 20, 2007 5:07 PM
Marcy said...
We agree with this PETITION to return the 2007 graduation back to the PIT.
March 20, 2007 5:29 PM
GLADYS said...
WE SUPPORT THE PETITION
March 20, 2007 5:32 PM
crazy said...
What about the extended family memebers from out of state that have already booked plane tickets?
Your telling the parents sorry pick and choose your favorites who cares if feelings are hurt.
That is crazy!
The graduation should be moved back to The Pit so every family member that wants to be there can attend!!
March 20, 2007 5:34 PM
Terry said...
The Largest Graduating Class in Rio Rancho history and the largest Class in the state.
To place the largest Class in a smaller venue is not a well thought out plan at this late notice no matter what the logic.
March 20, 2007 5:35 PM
Tammi said...
I want to thank everyone involve in making the BLOG accessible.
We agree with everything place here.
Thanks again
Tammi
March 20, 2007 5:37 PM
Penny said...
HOOOAAAAH!
We support Back to the PIT
March 20, 2007 5:38 PM
Rod said...
Wow, this is really awesome!
We love it!!
GO RAMS
YES GO BACK TO THE PIT AGAIN!!
YOU DID ROCK THE PIT!
March 20, 2007 5:41 PM
simon says said...
“BACK TO THE PIT
FAMILY AND FRIENDS OF RIO RANCHO HIGH SCHOOL GRADUATES DISCUSSION GROUP”
After reading your blogs, newspaper stories, and the koat newscast we are behind you.
Dr. Cleveland we want this graduation at THE PIT, thank you.
March 20, 2007 7:35 PM
Phyliss said...
“BACK TO THE PIT
FAMILY AND FRIENDS OF RIO RANCHO HIGH SCHOOL GRADUATES DISCUSSION GROUP”
BRAVO!
Rio Rancho Schools we want this graduation at THE PIT, thank you.
March 20, 2007 7:42 PM
Terrance said...
"An editor and the administration all referred to the “many” that wanted this, what is the problem with putting this to a vote, right now? You will all find out the actual “many” want this event at “The Pit”. Our Seniors will have to revert back to their grade school days, you print up what 750 notes home with 2 boxes to check on the note - “The Pit” or no “Pit”, parents and guardians along with each Senior will vote. Unlike the decree that has been imposed upon everyone, where only a certain “many” voices were heard and acted on, simply, that decision that act in itself is so wrong and so very unfair, this is America right? (The school Board is supposed to uphold the Constitution of the United States, just ask them). Make sure you number each one of these notes that way they can be counted fairly. Add a few lines so the Graduate and their Parent/Guardian can print and sign. If you have a better idea, wonderful as long as the vote process is fair. If the vote comes back no “Pit”, then the editor, the administration and the so called “many” had a finger on the pulse and IF the vote comes back “The Pit” then Hallelujah! Times a wastin’!"
March 20, 2007 7:43 PM
Quinn said...
I have heard and seen some bad things here in Rio Rancho schools. The best thing that could happen is to return the graduation to the Pit.
Quinn
March 20, 2007 8:45 PM
jen said...
Our family supports the petition to return to the Pit.
Jen
March 20, 2007 8:46 PM
ron said...
Dr. Cleveland please come back to your senses, for goodness sake they are naming a school after you, show some basic human compassion and fairness here!
Ron
March 20, 2007 8:46 PM
emily said...
No vote, no input, no choice, no time to cancel family coming in from out of town, only a chosen few were allowed to complain about the last graduation. Then no Star center. Go back to The Pit.
Emily
March 20, 2007 8:47 PM
irene said...
We would like to contribute to this blog and ask that you change your decision. We know it is not too late and you can cancel the so called contract.
Irene
March 20, 2007 8:48 PM
marvin said...
I agree with the petition and would like to vote to go back to the UNM Pit.
Marvin
March 20, 2007 8:48 PM
charles said...
Families and graduates have been discriminated against, not everyone was allowed to have a voice in this decision. It was highly one sided. Go back to the Pit.
Charles
March 20, 2007 8:49 PM
fact said...
I am a Hispanic-Latino, Anglo American woman.
This decision is DISCRIMINATORY:
FACT: Class grade level seniors, young women and young men were scheduled to graduate from high school by a set location determined by date and time, at the original venue, which is the University of New Mexico Arena also known as The Pit.
FACT: Rio Rancho School personnel did willfully and knowingly change the original venue to the Star center owned by the Santa Ana casino with two (2) months remaining in the school year.
FACT: The school personnel decision, imposition, requirement and mandate willfully and knowingly impedes families with a specific amount of children, parents, grandparents and alienates and excludes each of them from this public event where you are not monetarily charged to attend but you are allowed entry by rationed tickets only.
FACT: The school personnel decision, imposition, requirement and mandate willfully and knowingly prohibits aunts, uncles, cousins, in-laws and generations of living relatives from attending the graduation. Dependent upon the size of the family and who uses the 6 available tickets.
FACT: The school personnel decision, imposition, requirement and mandate willfully and knowingly prohibits any persons that have been deemed friend from attending the graduation. Dependent upon the size of the family and who uses the 6 available tickets.
FACT: The school personnel decision, imposition, requirement and mandate venue change from said, UNM Arena to the Star center assists in this impeding, dismissal and exclusion of persons.
FACT: The venue change occurred as told by school personnel, when unnamed “persons” asked, complained and insisted said change occur. Exact time frame is undetermined.
FACT: An undetermined “many” persons superseded the one hundred percent availability of any input from the rest of all other persons directly affected by this willful change of venue.
FACT: School personnel admit to willfully and knowingly understand and stated they considered the entire matter affecting everyone! Thus confirming their complete negligence and ignorance of the seriousness of the matter.
FACT: No votes were cast formally or informally by one hundred percent of all persons affected. School personnel both willfully and knowingly did not utilize this method and tool.
FACT: No poll or other data was investigated and analyzed formally or informally by one hundred percent of all persons affected. School personnel both willfully and knowingly did not utilize this method and tool.
FACT: School personnel both willfully and knowingly did impose, require and mandate all actions causing an undetermined amount of persons to be adversely affected, emotionally, psychologically and financially. Contrary to the pursuit of happiness.
FACT: Said discrimination affects directly and indirectly both genders, all ages and all races.
FACT: An actual count of each nationality will determine which nationalities are affected and to what degree.
FACT: Your immediate family is absolutely penalized by the amount of persons in your household or related by blood. Example if you have 4 living grandparents and 2 parents you have exhausted the rationed amount of tickets given. Regardless of how many siblings you have.
FACT: Or if you have 2 parents and 4 siblings not counting the graduate as a sibling you have exhausted the rationed tickets given. Regardless if you have grandparents.
FACT: Keep in mind we have families here that in fact were not raised by their blood mother or blood father.
FACT: All scenarios exclude anyone else regardless of relationship by blood or otherwise.
FACT: Allowing each senior to allocate additional tickets at best confirms, that someone loses out. And this process is not wholly fair. This also leads to a myriad of other dynamics within the social interaction of each person.
FACT: Allocating additional tickets at best confirms, that someone loses out. And no process is wholly fair. First come first served is least fair. Other dynamics factor in.
FACT: to be continued
March 21, 2007 5:05 AM
natalie said...
I am very impressed!
Count us in!
Fair Vote by parents or go back to THE PIT
March 21, 2007 5:18 AM
Anthony said...
Like the songs says:
"WE'RE NOT GONNA TAKE
no, We Ain't Gonna Take It
oh We're Not Gonna Take It Anymore
we've Got The Right To Choose And
there Ain't No Way We'll Lose It
this Is Our Life, This Is Our Song
we'll Fight The Powers That Be Just
don't Pick Our Destiny 'cause
you Don't Know Us, You Don't Belong
"
We agree to return the graduation BACK TO THE PIT!
BACK TO THE PIT!
BACK TO THE PIT!
I read the different remarks and this song came to mind
March 21, 2007 5:27 AM
BACK TO THE PIT! said...
BACK TO THE PIT!
it is that simple......
Jennifer
March 21, 2007 5:28 AM
ditto said...
BACK TO THE PIT!
it is that simple
Pat
March 21, 2007 5:40 AM
so simple said...
BACK TO THE PIT!
it is so simple
Laura
March 21, 2007 5:53 AM
simple simon said...
YEAAHH!
nice blog web!
BACK TO THE PIT!
it is so simple
Carla
March 21, 2007 6:42 AM
Jim said...
BACK TO THE PIT!
it is so simple
March 21, 2007 6:43 AM
Glen said...
BACK TO THE PIT!
it is so simple
March 21, 2007 7:07 AM
Ted said...
BACK TO THE PIT!
it is so simple
March 21, 2007 7:14 AM
Clifford said...
What RRPS and staff did was WRONG!
No input
No vote
No say
No way
BACK TO THE PIT!
it is so simple
it really is!
March 21, 2007 7:28 AM
Lisa said...
BACK TO THE PIT!
it is so simple
we agree
March 21, 2007 7:30 AM
Archie said...
WE want our family, grandparents and relatives and friends to see the graduation and 6 tickets won’t be enough!
Rio Rancho needs to re-think their decision!
Return to the PIT!
March 21, 2007 7:46 AM
Johnny said...
I want my family to see me graduate and 6 tickets won’t be enough! Rio Rancho needs to go back to the pit.
March 21, 2007 8:03 AM
06 Parent said...
YES the district should have come up with a variety of options and make them available to the public, obtain feedback and base the decision on that feedback in combination with sound financial decisions (as well as access, parking, etc.). YES the timing should have been better. YES the district has not given the public a voice. YES it should probably be moved back to the PIT for this year's graduation.
BUT, as a parent of a student who graduated last year, I have to say that the behavior of the parents at the graduation ceremony was absolutely embarrassing, intolerable, and would've prompted almost any administration to call off graduation the next year and mail out diplomas (which they have the right to do...graduation ceremonies are conducted as a way to celebrate the graduates...it is not a mandatory event). I saw entire family groups booing administration and staff when their names were called, entire family groups getting up and leaving in a very disruptive and rude fashion right in the middle of the processional call, and more. By comparison, the students were amazingly well behaved, and I was embarrassed for my son and his friends who demonstrated maturity far exceeding that of many of the parents in the audience.
I understand the district trying to change the "venue" in an attempt to bring a semblance of order and dignity back to the graduation ceremony. Granted, not everyone should pay for last year's badly behaved parents, but I just want everyone in this blog to have a bit more of the whole picture.
I'm still in support of moving graduation back to the PIT, but eventually, a Rio Rancho-based graduation will be happening and parents need to decide if those proceedings will be conducted with the dignity, respect and seriousness that everyone is expecting and calling for in this blog.
March 21, 2007 8:04 AM
Jarrod said...
BACK TO THE PIT TODAY
March 21, 2007 9:12 AM
To 06 Parent said...
Hello 06 Parent,
Thank you, for the information regarding what happened last year.
Thank you for sharing that.
I respect your points of view and would ask others to add to what they also observed. I believe there are some blogs here that also mentioned their observations from last year.
Wrong is wrong regarding what you observed from last year.
We are willing to do ANYTHING to assist RRPS in not having the same bad behavior for 2007.
We are willing to pay for extra security. Whatever is asked we are willing to do.
We have parents willing to pay for the entire cost of The Pit, that is how serious it is!
We are very glad you see our concerns as well.
Wrong is wrong and what the administration has done for 2007 is very wrong.
Let that be there emphasis, "GO BACK TO THE PIT"
and state, we will not return to The Pit if we have a dejavu of 06!
If EVERYONE voted and this changed occurred, that is different. But as we know that was not allowed, and that is very WRONG.
Honestly, this was not at all fair. You CANNOT punish 06 for 07.
One parent wrote if I punish one son for what his brother did they would always be grounded!
Our big push right now is:
Tear up the contract and let us know what the cost is to do that.
GO BACK TO THE PIT.
Or
Let families with graduating seniors have a FAIR vote.
They are stalling right now this is going to get very ugly, people have every right to call them on this one, quoting - “THIS IS AMERICA”.
The administration is using their energy in the wrong direction.
They need to do the right thing not the wrong thing.
Also, FYI: 08 wants the graduation at The Pit. Just watch.
06 Parent, if you know anyone that wants this graduation to “GO BACK TO THE PIT” please forward this blog web to them.
We truly appreciate you sharing.
Yours truly,
Tony
What 06 Parent said...
YES the district should have come up with a variety of options and make them available to the public, obtain feedback and base the decision on that feedback in combination with sound financial decisions (as well as access, parking, etc.). YES the timing should have been better. YES the district has not given the public a voice. YES it should probably be moved back to the PIT for this year's graduation.
BUT, as a parent of a student who graduated last year, I have to say that the behavior of the parents at the graduation ceremony was absolutely embarrassing, intolerable, and would've prompted almost any administration to call off graduation the next year and mail out diplomas (which they have the right to do...graduation ceremonies are conducted as a way to celebrate the graduates...it is not a mandatory event). I saw entire family groups booing administration and staff when their names were called, entire family groups getting up and leaving in a very disruptive and rude fashion right in the middle of the processional call, and more. By comparison, the students were amazingly well behaved, and I was embarrassed for my son and his friends who demonstrated maturity far exceeding that of many of the parents in the audience.
I understand the district trying to change the "venue" in an attempt to bring a semblance of order and dignity back to the graduation ceremony. Granted, not everyone should pay for last year's badly behaved parents, but I just want everyone in this blog to have a bit more of the whole picture.
I'm still in support of moving graduation back to the PIT, but eventually, a Rio Rancho-based graduation will be happening and parents need to decide if those proceedings will be conducted with the dignity, respect and seriousness that everyone is expecting and calling for in this blog.
March 21, 2007 10:10 AM
Leroy to the 06 parent said...
Thank you 06 Parent
"YES the district should have come up with a variety of options and make them available to the public, obtain feedback and base the decision on that feedback in combination with sound financial decisions (as well as access, parking, etc.). YES the timing should have been better. YES the district has not given the public a voice. YES it should probably be moved back to the PIT for this year's graduation."
March 21, 2007 10:15 AM
Donnie said...
kudos to the 06 Parent!!
thank you.
pass it on!!!
March 21, 2007 10:21 AM
To the 06 parent, thank you said...
Hello 06 parent,
Thank you, if possible please email me at cmj2nc@aol.com
I had some questions about last year that would take up too much time blogging you with all the traffic.
Thank you,
March 21, 2007 11:38 AM
Hector said...
Sorry if I am late,
better late then never, right?
Well anyway, everything that needs to be said has been said.
Some great stuff here, thank you for doing this, thank you, thank you.
We are parents that were glad to find out the graduation was going to be in town.
BUT!!!
Not how it has been illegally enforced!!
Has someone consulted an attorney?
I will email you some good ones.
GO BACK TO THE PIT
I do believe this is DISCRIMINATION and we should hold those responsible for this major problem.
Don’t let them off the hook.
That all folks…
Hector
March 21, 2007 11:52 AM
Paul said...
quoting Chris B
"back, back, back, back, back"
to the PIT!!!
March 21, 2007 12:11 PM
Clay said...
100% in support
March 21, 2007 2:49 PM
Nicole said...
Our Graduate’s Graduation announcements and keep in mind as well as numerous other families’ announcements were ordered with the understanding the Graduation would be at “The Pit”. Had we known the location would be changed this would have influenced our purchase of these announcements and the amount needed.
Why would we have wasted money on announcements that are inviting many people to an event they can’t go to? Most of the tickets are going only to immediate family. People with large families and a large network are penalized. Not so at “The Pit” venue.
“The announcements do say The Pit, however, there is an insert being done for the new location with a map”. This is the exact quote by Jostens, the business doing our announcements; we have requested that they provide us with a full refund, as we will cancel this order. We are encouraging others to do likewise.
March 21, 2007 3:02 PM
Lucy said...
Oh now you tell me when we already invited close family. This is not right. Count us it too.
March 21, 2007 3:11 PM
Kurt said...
Back to THE PIT NOW!!
March 21, 2007 3:34 PM
lewis said...
2006 graduate family supports the class of 2007
RRPS is dead wrong
March 21, 2007 3:40 PM
CORKY said...
EXCELLENT BLOG WE SALUTE YOU!!!
MAN, WE AGREE WITH EVERYTHING, WE NEED TO GET AN ATTORNEY ON THIS I KNOW SOME ALSO.
IT SURE IS NICE TO GET OTHERS INVOLVED, THERE IS STUFF HERE WE DID NOT EVEN REALIZE.
THEY ARE TRYING TO PULL THE WOOL OVER OUR EYES.
WE CANNOT LET THEM GETAWAY WITH THIS ONE.
SORRY IF I AM LATE TO THE DANCE.
CORKY
PS: THE ANNOUNCEMENTS SUCK!!
March 21, 2007 4:08 PM
lucy said...
Oh now you tell me when we already invited close family.
This is not right.
Count us ALL in too.
March 21, 2007 4:10 PM
Bernard said...
and the hits just keep on coming!!!
chant:
"Pit"
"Pit"
"Pit"
"Pit"
"Pit"
"Pit"
"Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit"
March 21, 2007 4:19 PM
i "PIT"y the fool said...
Hey Bernard we're with you......
"Pit"
"Pit"
"Pit"
"Pit"
"Pit"
"Pit"
"Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit"
"Pit"
"Pit"
"Pit"
"Pit"
"Pit"
"Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit"
March 21, 2007 4:23 PM
hombre said...
No the "blogs" just keep on comin"
Hey Bernard we're with you too......
all the children said,
"Pit"
"Pit"
"Pit"
"Pit"
"Pit"
"Pit"
"Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit"
"Pit""Pit""Pit"
"Pit"
"Pit"
"Pit"
"Pit"
"Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit"
March 21, 2007 4:26 PM
Ethan said...
who is Bernard and what is this chant he started?
it is Contagious
"Pit"
"Pit"
"Pit"
i "PIT"y the fool
i "PIT"y the foo
i "PIT"y the high school
i "PIT"y the fools at the high school
March 21, 2007 4:30 PM
Dick said...
funny guys and gals funny..
lets get serious now....
"Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit"
faster now.......
"Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit
slower now.....
"Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit
now the tall people......
"Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit
ok, this is fun.....
"Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit
March 21, 2007 4:35 PM
Bernard's wife said...
Alright already!!!
cool it.
RRPS will not take us serious.
We really need to
go back to the
"Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit"
Look what you started Bernard!
March 21, 2007 4:50 PM
Ema said...
Chain reaction
"Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit
Good deal, we support everyone here blogging along.
When the red red robin starts blog blog blogging along,
along.....
Seriously, RRPS we really want you to change your mind, thank you.
For the sake of thousands of people that want to go.
and to the 06 Parent, thank you.
I was there, we like you also behaved.
Go Back to the PIT please.
March 21, 2007 4:55 PM
Thanks Bernard said...
"Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit
We would like to respectfully request that Dr. Sue Cleveland come to her senses and return the class of 2007 back to the Pit.
We know you can cancel the contract and we know you can change your mind.
What you are doing is very wrong and it is discrimination.
You cannot do this when clearly you have not asked everyone affected.
Someone with courage at RRPS needs to stand up and stop this.
Chant again:
"Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit
Thanks Bernard,
Rachel
March 21, 2007 5:01 PM
Veronica to the 06 parent said...
Thank you very much 06 Parent
well worded.
"YES the district should have come up with a variety of options and make them available to the public, obtain feedback and base the decision on that feedback in combination with sound financial decisions (as well as access, parking, etc.). YES the timing should have been better. YES the district has not given the public a voice. YES it should probably be moved back to the PIT for this year's graduation."
March 21, 2007 5:06 PM
Helen said...
Thank you 06 Parent
"YES the district should have come up with a variety of options and make them available to the public, obtain feedback and base the decision on that feedback in combination with sound financial decisions (as well as access, parking, etc.). YES the timing should have been better. YES the district has not given the public a voice. YES it should probably be moved back to the PIT for this year's graduation."
March 21, 2007 5:18 PM
Bernard Rocks, thanks said...
Hello Bernard,
thank you for the catchy chant:
"Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit"
Pass it on to everyone you know!!
Victoria
March 21, 2007 5:21 PM
Jackie said...
“BACK TO THE PIT
FAMILY AND FRIENDS OF RIO RANCHO HIGH SCHOOL GRADUATES DISCUSSION GROUP”
After reading your blogs, newspaper stories, and the Koat newscast we are behind you.
Dr. Cleveland we want this graduation at THE PIT, thank you.
"Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit""Pit"
Jackie
March 21, 2007 5:26 PM
Judy said...
"Can't we all just get along"
and Go Back to The Pit??!!
March 21, 2007 6:53 PM
Jason said...
We support returning to The Pit
March 21, 2007 7:15 PM
Gordon said...
Hello all Bloggers.
Great stuff here.
This is awesome.
We are glad someone had the moxy to let them know we really care.
We support everyone here all the way.
I will email you direct let me know how else we can help.
We will pass this on too.
Gordon
March 21, 2007 8:00 PM
Al said...
AWESOME!
I just read about this site in the RR Observer!
This is outstanding.
I agree:
Go back to The Pit, because it is the RIGHT thing to do.
OR
Put it to a fair vote period and you will have all your answers and problems solved and then you did what you should have done in the first place.
It really is that simple.
Wise up, or forget about the "money and the contract", or tell who is ever driving this you won't do it, you won't do thousands of people and children wrong.
March 21, 2007 9:27 PM
samantha said...
http://129.24.2.119/fbonline5/calendar.asp?filter=&month=5&day=19&year=2007&x=14&y=6
Please paste this info into your browser, or you might be able to click on it, the original Graduation date of 5/19 is still open.
We can still return to “The Pit”.
RRPS, regarding your decision to change this year’s Graduation to the center.
The Rio Rancho High School Agenda Book clearly states the Graduation will be at “The Pit”.
This is what we used to plan out this important event in our Child’s life.
March 21, 2007 9:31 PM
blog on said...
Oh my,
I really like your blogspot.
We support everyone rising to this task, blog on & go back to the PIT Rio Rancho, NM!
"THINK ABOUT THIS!!!
Everyone here has a good point but really, really think about this:
Driving to; Parking; Leaving; Driving home!
How much traffic comes in and out of the pit when you are at an event?
But at least there you have 4 different ways to get in and out and a new 4 lane freeway to get in and out, so by the time to get home if you live in Rio Rancho or on the west side is maybe about a half an hour or so, not bad.
At the Santa Ana, with 700 to 750 students, which at least three fourths and more will be driving themselves, since they have to be there 2 hours early. Or their parents will be driving them. Plus school staff and Santa Ana staff that have to get there to prepare. Then all the families will be driving and the other fortunate ones that get to go, so total you are looking at a lot of automobiles driving there all at once. You will have to drive through Rio Rancho to get to a 2 lane road, with ONLY a 1 lane entrance, now that is dangerous! Could and accident occur? Yes! That will not cut down on driving time it will take you longer.
What about the parking?
That too, is going to be a major mess, and will not properly accommodate all of those vehicles. That will also add to the delay before the graduation even starts.
Now when it is time to go home you are looking at all those people and cars trying to get out of an area that has ONLY 1 way out and back to a 2 lane road! Here you are looking at a long wait if you are lucky and with no accidents. If there is an accident it is really going to be a major mess because then everyone heading in that direction will have to wait, do you get the picture?
I’d rather be coming out of the pit with more ways out to help us if something goes wrong, where if God forbid someone gets in an accident, at least you can find a way to turn around or find another road to turn on to.
What if someone gets in an accident coming from or going to the Santa Ana, where are our choices to get out of traffic?
WAIT, there are NONE because there is ONLY 1 way in and 1 way out and it is a 2 lane road with NO turn around area anywhere except when you are on 528 or Northern!!!
TO ALL OF THE OFFICALS WHO CHANGED THIS!!
Start praying no one gets hurt on their way there or the way home because then you will have legal problems to deal with! God forbid a loss of life occurs!
Nobody wants that?!
Better yet change the graduation Back to the Pit and avoid all this.
THINK ABOUT THAT!!!!!!!"
Jasmine
March 21, 2007 9:40 PM
to anonymous said...
To anonymous,
You wrote "posse"
Is that slang from “Bonanza”?
Or what did you mean?
If you joined in late,
The School Board never tabled this matter.
They pointed the finger back to the administration.
So this never was voted on.
We would like this to go the a fair vote,
from parents, guardians and graduating seniors.
So if it stays in “RIO RANCHO” then it stays,
But if it goes back to The PIT then goes back.
That is all that is being asked.
Read the other blogs it will bring you up to date.
See you there
Hope
March 21, 2007 10:44 PM
Ernest said...
PETITION TO GO BACK TO THE PIT
not the center
Ernest
March 21, 2007 10:47 PM
john said...
"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed, by their Creator, with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness."
John
March 21, 2007 10:50 PM
to posse said...
"While the storm clouds gather far across the sea,
Let us swear allegiance to a land that's free,
Let us all be grateful for a land so fair,
As we raise our voices in a solemn prayer.
God Bless America.
Land that I love
Stand beside her, and guide her
Thru the night with a light from above.
From the mountains, to the prairies ,
To the oceans, white with foam
God bless America
My home sweet home."
March 21, 2007 10:56 PM
Michael said...
Many bloggers have asked or stated that this is "America"
and YES we have rights.
"Touché"
"My country, 'tis of Thee,
Sweet Land of Liberty
Of thee I sing;
Land where my fathers died,
Land of the pilgrims' pride,
From every mountain side
Let Freedom ring.
My native country, thee,
Land of the noble free,
Thy name I love;
I love thy rocks and rills,
Thy woods and templed hills,
My heart with rapture thrills
Like that above.
Let music swell the breeze,
And ring from all the trees
Sweet Freedom's song;
Let mortal tongues awake;
Let all that breathe partake;
Let rocks their silence break,
The sound prolong.
Our fathers' God to Thee,
Author of Liberty,
To thee we sing,
Long may our land be bright
With Freedom's holy light,
Protect us by thy might
Great God, our King.
Our glorious Land to-day,
'Neath Education's sway,
Soars upward still.
Its hills of learning fair,
Whose bounties all may share,
Behold them everywhere
On vale and hill!
Thy safeguard, Liberty,
The school shall ever be,
Our Nation's pride!
No tyrant hand shall smite,
While with encircling might
All here are taught the Right
With Truth allied.
Beneath Heaven's gracious will
The stars of progress still
Our course do sway;
In unity sublime
To broader heights we climb,
Triumphant over Time,
God speeds our way!
Grand birthright of our sires,
Our altars and our fires
Keep we still pure!
Our starry flag unfurled,
The hope of all the world,
In peace and light impearled,
God hold secure!"
March 21, 2007 11:02 PM
pitiful said...
Knock! Knock!
who's there?
PIT!
PIT who!
PITiful decision by the school to change the graduation!
March 21, 2007 11:05 PM
bob said...
"Whatever the merits of moving the Rio Rancho High School graduation ceremony to the Santa Ana Star Center in Rio Rancho, the decision should have been made before rather than after families had begun planning.
Extended family members have already made travel plans and requested vacation times in anticipation of attending the ceremony for which they may not now get tickets.
It is apparent there was not enough public deliberation about this issue.
A decision affecting the entire school population should have been discussed publicly so that all voices were heard prior to the decision, particularly since the number of seats available to family and friends of the graduates has been reduced by more than two thirds.
Please join us in moving the graduation ceremony back to The Pit.
Sign the Petition by adding a comment to the open thread on the web log."
We support this blog site
Bob
March 21, 2007 11:33 PM
To anonymous writer said...
Anonymous,
Thanks for your opinion. Whether or not I voted or didn’t vote for a school board member is irrelevant given that the decision to move the graduation ceremony was an administrative decision made after the middle of the year. If you are really the parent of an RRHS graduate then you must have the graduation announcements that say the ceremony will be held at The Pit. Excellent planning--that means we have to stick in that little insert that may as well say “DON’T BOTHER COMING. THERE WILL BE NO ROOM FOR YOU!” By the way, does your conscientious vote for a school board member require you to agree with every position they hold?
If you are truly concerned about parental participation, shouldn’t you be applauding this effort asking the community to become involved in this important event? I’m shocked that you think there’s a restriction on a parent’s right to cry foul at any point in time they feel the need to.
You ask “where does it stop?” Well, I can’t speak for every graduate, but if you have family and friends who have planned to be there for you—to take the time out of their busy lives to mark a milestone with you, than I suppose it would stop at that number. Let’s see: 2 parents + 4 grandparents + 3 brothers and one sister-in-law—that’s 10 already and I’m only counting the immediate family. What about 2 godparents? A favorite aunt and uncle? A best friend who goes to private school? I’m not even including the stepmother or the two ugly stepsisters. I would hardly call these individuals a “posse.”
You should be embarrassed by your own condescending attitude regarding large families. Your use of the term “posse” makes me wonder if you’re a bigot. Do you have a problem with people who have lots of close friends? I wonder if you’re not projecting your own social inadequacies onto those of us who have a lot of folks who we love and include in family gatherings. By your logic Snow White would have to choose among the seven dwarves, the prince, and her fairy godmothers. Oh, wait a minute--it was Sleeping Beauty who had the three fairy godmothers. Four, if you count Maleficent. But, you get my point.
The way I see it, the day is for the graduates to celebrate with the people they love. They have worked hard and earned this celebration. If you have to ask “where does it stop?” —well, I feel sorry for you.
Eve
March 21, 2007 11:44 PM
Snow White said...
OOHH MAN that was good
"my posse's on broadway"
YO, anon,
if you are only taking 4 I need your extra tickets call me
Snow White
March 21, 2007 11:52 PM
Tracy said...
"Those who fail to know their history are doomed to repeat it"
"In every stage of these Oppressions We have Petitioned for Redress in the most humble terms: Our repeated Petitions have been answered only by repeated injury. A Prince whose character is thus marked by every act which may define a Tyrant, is unfit to be the ruler of a free people."
March 22, 2007 12:28 AM
aRT said...
The decision to move graduation is terrible. How does the school believe it is a superior building? It’s smaller and I believe that it was NOWHERE near the University Arena, “The PIT” in a recent list of top venues. The Pit was in the top twenty, number thirteen! Who would want their picture displayed on the widescreens, “The PIT” also has widescreens?
Tradition has always been to hold graduation at “The PIT”. Why break that tradition that’s been with the school – especially at a venue that clearly does not meet all needs.
15,000 seats compared to 4,500 seats – “GO BIG OR STAY HOME”!
March 22, 2007 6:26 AM
7 DWARVES CAN''T GO said...
". . . You should be embarrassed by your own condescending attitude regarding large families.
Your use of the term “posse” makes me wonder if you’re a bigot.
Do you have a problem with people who have lots of close friends?
I wonder if you’re not projecting your own social inadequacies onto those of us who have a lot of folks who we love and include in family gatherings.
By your logic Snow White would have to choose among the seven dwarves, the prince, and her fairy godmothers.
Oh, wait a minute--it was Sleeping Beauty who had the three fairy godmothers.
Four, if you count Maleficent. But, you get my point.
The way I see it, the day is for the graduates to celebrate with the people they love.
They have worked hard and earned this celebration.
If you have to ask “where does it stop?” —well, I feel sorry for you. . ."
March 22, 2007 6:35 AM
BETTY said...
Rio Rancho High School, we agree and support your return the UNM PIT,
Betty
March 22, 2007 6:39 AM
SUE said...
THIS BLOG SPOT REALLY REALLY REALLY IS GREAT KEEP UP THE OUTSTANDING WORK HERE WE ARE SO SO GLAD TO BE ABLE TO HAVE A VOICE IN THIS GIGANTIC MISTAKE AFFECTING OUR CHILDREN OUR FAMILIES OUR COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE
SUSAN
March 22, 2007 6:40 AM
pETER said...
Bobby D said...
"Come writers and critics
Who prophesize with your pen
And keep your eyes wide
The chance won't come again
And don't speak too soon
For the wheel's still in spin
And there's no tellin' who
That it's namin'.
For the loser now
Will be later to win
For the times they are a-changin'."
March 22, 2007 6:42 AM
leonard said...
Please allow the parents the legal guardians and seniors vote. Put this problem to a FAIR vote.
March 22, 2007 6:45 AM
Becky S said...
I want to see my niece graduate at the pit not at a center that sounds a lot like a casino.
Are we going to the casino after the graduation, maybe that is where the staff and board members will be. Heh that is why they changed it, now we can understand their decision better. What were you all thinking!!
March 22, 2007 6:50 AM
jack said...
Herein, confirms that the person or persons involved in making this last minute decision/change did not take into full account all of this information!
If this was not a last minute decision, then why did it take until March 2007 to spring it on us?
Was there a vote?
Was balanced input solicited?
Who, What, When, Where, Why and How did this come about?
Please be respectfully advised that we are not in the minority here, we are in the majority here and absolutely not at all happy with this last minute change!
Lets put it to a vote now.
March 22, 2007 6:52 AM
Brandon said...
I want to see my sister graduate and get her diploma.
But I might have to give my ticket to Grandma so she can go.
Now that is not right.
Please help us get it back to the pit so everyone can go who wants to.
March 22, 2007 7:04 AM
Stunned said...
I just read my Observer
sorry I must have not gotten the memo
WOW, who paid who to get this changed?
Jay
March 22, 2007 7:10 AM
To Sue Cleveland said...
Sue Cleveland, you are going to get sued or have an injunction brought against you.
What comes around will go around.
Honestly, you are a much better person than this big mess.
Here is your time to shine and stop this ordeal.
You have not heard the end of this.
Comment after comment show you never let parents vote.
You only let certain people call in and complain.
There is nothing wrong with that as long as you let everyone state their case.
That has not happened yet.
Have a fair vote or take it back to the PIT.
I am reading between the lines you are trying very hard to do the right thing and keep the graduation safe.
But the way you are handling this mistake will not set well at all.
Listen, just by you going back to the PIT will calm the crowd.
Sue, do the right thing.
Kyle
March 22, 2007 7:33 AM
Gloria said...
My daughter wants all of her family at her graduation.
Mom, dad, sisters, brother, aunts, uncles, grandparents and cousins. That comes to 16!
Don't make her choose who gets to go and who gets to stay home.
We all want to celebrate with her. BACK TO THE PIT!
Graduates and parents should have had a choice, it's our graduation, not the administrations!
March 22, 2007 7:35 AM
jake said...
We heard last year’s Graduation had a rowdy crowd and security was an issue? Please do not penalize the class of 2007 that cannot be blamed for last year.
March 22, 2007 7:38 AM
to art said...
"The Arena"
"The PIT"
"Sports Illustrated's Top-20 Sports Venues of the Century:
In June, 1999, Sports Illustrated listed its top-20 sporting venues of the century and The Pit checked in at No. 13.
“Sports Illustrated in 1999 named The Pit one of the Top 20 sporting venues of the 20th century — a list that includes Yankee Stadium, Wrigley Field, Pebble Beach and Daytona International.
Yeah, that’s big-time company. That’s like being compared to Babe Ruth, Joe Louis, Man O’ War, the Roman Empire, George Washington, Marlon Brando, Katharine Hepburn.
When you make an elite list like that maybe something special had to happen in The Pit above and beyond Lobos basketball.
And it did.”
We support this blog
Max
March 22, 2007 7:42 AM
KOAT wants you to call said...
Please call or email:
Rio Rancho Blog
KOAT is interested in updating our story on your fight to have the
graduation ceremonies moved back to the Pit.
Please write back with contact information or give me a call.
Thanks,
Cary J. Schwanitz
505-884-6324
cschwanitz@hearst.com
March 22, 2007 9:17 AM
to anony said...
Anonymous,
I noticed you didn’t deny being a bigot.
3 in my family.
"Nothing against large families"
qoute you called them "posse"?
I voted and I support the board too, maybe we can share recipes.
This matter never went to the board.
Perhaps they have lost sight of the goal: Do as I say not as I do. Input was not received from everyone.
The ceremony is just the asterik for the 12/13 years of education.
ditto-thanks for playing :-)
March 22, 2007 9:57 AM
Will said...
To anonymous
We heard you.
The board did not have a say in this.
March 22, 2007 11:53 AM
Albuquerque Tribune said...
Please email and call Stephanie:
HI, this is Stephanie from the Albuquerque Tribune. I'd like to speak to someone about this. My number is 823-3609.
Thanks,
Stephanie Garcia Krenrich
sgarciakrenrich@abqtrib.com
March 22, 2007 12:08 PM
PIT said...
Hello everyone,
I am a graduating senior, YEEAAAHH!!!
I have read the blogs.
Several of us seniors really like the idea to have graduation here.
BUT, the way it all came about is so unfair.
So, no disrespect to the school, but we need to have the graduation where we were all told it would be to begin with, at THE PIT.
Thank you.
A O
March 22, 2007 2:01 PM
JL said...
Hello,
I am a graduating senior!!!!
Several of us really like the idea to have graduation here.
BUT, the way it all came about is so unfair!!!
No disrespect to the school, but I agree we need to have the graduation where we were all told it would be to begin with, at THE PIT.
Thank you for your time.
JL
March 22, 2007 2:11 PM
RRPS said...
13 years at RRPS
At the beginning of the year at the Senior Assembly when the Seniors were being told about ordering their cap and gowns and graduation announcements both Mr. Duncan, the activities director and Mr. VonAncken said that the class of 2007 would most likely be the biggest graduating class in New Mexico and in the history of Rio Rancho.
Also, that there are Seniors that have been going to RRPS their whole lives and they would like to do something special about that this year.
It was absolutely clear the venue would be “The Pit” and their would be no limit on people attending.
Therefore, plans, ordering announcements, buying airline tickets, scheduling time off were ALL done prior to this change!
They were well aware of this!
This also means they were well aware that just by the very size of the class graduating would indicate the strong likelihood that potentially more persons would be in attendance then all of the previous graduations!
March 22, 2007 3:11 PM
seniors said...
!!!!!!!!!!!!!ATTENTION SENIORS!!!!!!!!!!!!
· PLEASE CONTACT http://rioranchogradsunite.blogspot.com/ or email: cmj2nc@aol.com TODAY!
· CALL RRPS DISTRICT TODAY IF YOU OR YOUR PARENTS ARE CONCERNED ABOUT GRADUATION BEING CHANGED TO THE SANTA ANA STAR CENTER (896-0667 SUPERINTENDENT & SCHOOL BOARD).
· TELL THEM YOU WANT IT AT “THE PIT”
· IF THEY REALLY WANTED OUT OF THE CONRACT, THEY CAN GET OUT OF THE CONRACT. "NOTHING IS IMPOSSIBLE"
· MAKE SURE YOUR PARENTS KNOW YOUR GRADUATION ANNOUNCEMENTS WILL STILL SAY “THE PIT” ON THE ANNOUNCEMENT BUT THERE WILL BE AN INSERT STATING THE CHANGE (HOW TACKY) YOU CAN STILL GET A REFUND.
· REMEMBER THERE IS ONLY ONE LANE ENTERING AND ONE LANE LEAVING THE CENTER IMAGINE THE MESS FOR BOTH STUDENTS AND PARENTS HAVING TO DRIVE THERE.
· WE SHOULD HAVE A SAY IN WHERE WE WANT TO GRADUATE; REMEMBER SENIORS IN THE WORDS OF OUR PRINCIPAL “THE CHOICE IS YOURS!!!!!!!!!!”
March 22, 2007 5:21 PM
Bruce said...
WHEN YOU ALL OPEN THE OTHER HIGH SCHOOL
THEN YOU CAN HAVE YOUR GRADUATION IN RIO RANCHO
BECAUSE UNTIL THEN
RRHS WILL CONTINUE TO HAVE THE MOST SENIORS GRADUATING YEAR IN AND YEAR OUT
WHO IS KEEPING COUNT?
IF I KNOW THAT HOW IS IT THE ONES RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS SOMEHOW FORGOT THAT?
THAT IS WHY A NEW SCHOOL IS NEEDED RIGHT?
WE FULLY SUPPORT THE HAVE THE GRADUATION AT THE PIT
March 22, 2007 5:30 PM
maggie said...
SERIOUSLY…SIMPLY, WHAT PRICE DO YOU PLACE ON A CELEBRATION OF LOVE AND LIFE?!
THE COST THE SAVINGS THAT MRS. CLEVELAND AND MR. VONANCKEN ALLUDE TO ABSOLUTELY DO NOT OUT WEIGH WHAT WILL BE COMPLETELY LOST!
YES, EVEN TO ATTEMPT TO PLACE A PRICE ON THIS ENTIRE PROCESS, CELEBRATION AND EVENT IS INAPPROPRIATE BECAUSE IT IS TRULY “PRICELESS”!
TO ARGUE THIS IMPORTANT POINT IS IGNORANCE AND…..WELL….VERY WRONG.
March 22, 2007 5:33 PM
francis said...
Save my everyone's sanity!
Please move the Rio Rancho High School graduation ceremony back to The PIT.
Right now!
March 22, 2007 5:35 PM
4 children said...
I am the mother of four children and writing this on behalf of my husband and family.
Our son is graduating and we don't have enough tickets.
Four grandparents, two parents and three siblings comes out to nine guests. Oops, I hope that does not offend anyone!
Someone, was overly concerned about how many children one has?
We are three tickets short.
A person noted earlier that they don't want to shortchange anyone out of a ticket, neither do we.
You are making us choose who will get to go and you are making us cheat someone else from going.
My son has asked for extra tickets and there is none available.
We are asking Dr. Cleveland to allow families and graduates to vote and return this celebration to the Pit.
Thank you,
Julia
March 22, 2007 5:42 PM
i said...
Dr. Cleveland,
This is the Largest Graduating Class in Rio Rancho history and the largest Class in the state.
To place the largest Class in a smaller venue is not a well thought out plan at this late notice no matter what the logic.
It clearly discriminates against person's with "large families" and prohibits anyone else they know from being able to come.
My day really goes by, there is not enough time in the day.
For anyone out of their busy schedule to want to go to a "high school graduation" really wants to go.
Sorry to hear about 06.
Lets not be prejudice here.
If someone wants to go then that is up to them.
Higher extra guards.
Change this back.
Thank you,
Jeremy
March 22, 2007 5:56 PM
bev said...
"BACK TO THE PIT"
OR
Please allow the parents the legal guardians and seniors vote.
Put this problem to a FAIR vote.
Not controlled completely by RRPS.
A FAIR vote.
March 22, 2007 6:13 PM
hugh said...
"A newspaper article stated, 'many' parents called asking to have the graduation changed to the Santa Ana Star owned by the casino/center hockey rink.
There will now be 'many' more parents calling to complain that this was not a well thought out idea.
Per the newspaper a handful of parents requested this?
This does not go over very well for Everyone affected regarding the decision process and the person or persons behind it.
'Many'?
How many was 'many'?
Lets put this to a vote, just do the math if 10,000+ persons can’t attend, then clearly there are 'many' more then the 'many' the administration is stating wanted this change.
Just think about this big mess logically."
March 22, 2007 7:38 PM
Anonymous said...
I am sick and tired of reading the rants and raves of those that write to get over it, obviously they don't have friends and family that they care about. I don't care where they have the graduation as long as there is room for those that wish to attend and not put limits. I am disappointed that the board did not take a vote in all this mess up. I think that they should have saved this for next year or the years to come when there is enough notice to let students and parents know well in advance what is to take place and not just decide to change things 3 months before graduation. Plans have been made and now they expect us to just toss everything out the window. Also all the expense of purchasing there package of all the graduation announcements and other items, most of that stuff is of no use to me I can only send out 1 announcement I can go to Kinko's and make my own announcements that would cost me about 1.00 but I spent 189.00 on this pkg. I would like to know how I can get a refund on this. The more that things happen with graduation the worse it gets, now the students will not get their caps and gowns until the day of graduation. What about wanting to take pictures with cap and gown to send to Friends and family, first they can not attend now we cant send pictures with what they would look like on graduation DAY. I guess the students are also suppose to walk the line in there caps and gowns all wrinkled because they will not have time to press or iron them to look decent. I am so disappointed in this whole mess. We have planned this day for months and waited for years to see our child graduate and take the next step in life but I can honestly say that Rio Rancho High School ruined this for us. I wish I could take this to court and let the RRHS know what they have done to the students and parents that are in my same situation we need our voices heard. very upset in Rio Rancho
March 22, 2007 8:27 PM
M. Warren said...
The Santa Ana Casino owns the Santa Ana Star Center. The casino will reap the profits from the fee for holding the RRHS graduation at the Star Center.
Who would you rather have reap the profit? The Santa Ana Casino? or the University of New Mexico?
March 22, 2007 9:28 PM
Anonymous said...
Mr. Warren,
The Santa Ana Star bought the NAMING RIGHTS, not the center. The casino won't gain a dime from graduation. Read your newspaper, you are uninformed.
March 22, 2007 9:35 PM
happy my kid is graduating said...
See http://www.nmbiz.com/06-09Sept/24.htm for the straight skinny on who owns the "Star".
March 22, 2007 9:45 PM
did anyone like? said...
did anyone like that "knock knock" joke?
March 22, 2007 10:01 PM
Homestar Runner & red rabbit said...
By the way, if you click on this link, you will see the list of corporate partners of The Santa Ana Star Center:
Santa Ana Star Casino
The Rio Rancho Observer
99.3 KOB FM
770 KKOB
Mew Mexico's CW
Perfection Honda
JohnnyBoards LLC
First Community Bank
Qwest
Crystal Springs
O'Hare's Grille & Pub / Hot Tamales
Rio Rancho Printing
March 22, 2007 10:28 PM
Teddy said...
Hello everybody,
We are just interested in having the graduation at the Pit.
March 22, 2007 10:31 PM
"God Bless America" said...
And all those other countries too!
Blog on brother, blog on!
March 22, 2007 10:41 PM
fact said...
Fact sheet:
http://www.santaanastarcenter.com/partnership/
factsheet.pdf
March 22, 2007 10:48 PM
to happy my kid is graduating said...
To: happy my kid is graduating said...
In a nut shell what is this article saying that you sent?
I'm at grapevine0691@aol.com
See http://www.nmbiz.com/06-09Sept/24.htm for the straight skinny on who owns the "Star".
"BACK TO THE PIT"
March 22, 2007 11:00 PM
M. Warren said...
The Santa Ana Casino are "Corporate Partners" with the Santa Ana Star Center.
Who would you rather have benefit? The Casino? or the University of New Mexico?
What percentage of RRPS has attended UNM?
What percentage of RRPS 2007 will attended UNM?
Thank you for the "skinny"
http://www.santaanastarcenter.com/corporate_
partners.php
March 22, 2007 11:23 PM
koat-tv said...
UPDATE:
KOAT is interested in updating THEIR story on the fight to have the graduation ceremonies moved back to the Pit. "ANYONE" interested in doing an interview. Please write back with contact information or call.
Cary J. Schwanitz
505-884-6324
Email cschwanitz@hearst.com if you want your views to be heard by KOAT.
News Coverage
KOAT-TV had excellent coverage of the Rio Rancho graduation moving from its original venue at The Pit. There's a short commercial right before the main story.
www.koat.com/video/11177714/index.html?taf=alb
March 23, 2007 6:56 AM
Albuquerque Tribune said...
Please email and call Stephanie:
HI, this is Stephanie from the Albuquerque Tribune. I'd like to speak to someone about this. My number is 823-3609.
Thanks,
Stephanie Garcia Krenrich
sgarciakrenrich@abqtrib.com
March 23, 2007 6:58 AM
email them said...
schoolboard@rrdo.rrps.k12.nm.us, nmiqgovima@state.nm.us, robert.sjostrand@jostens.com, theobserver@rrobserver.com, news@rrobserver.com, wduncan@rrhs.rrps.k12.nm.us, dnsimmons@rrhs.rrps.k12.nm.us, district@rrdo.rrps.k12.nm.us, opinion@abqjournal.com, kvesely@rrdo.rrps.k12.nm.us, target7@thenewmexicochannel.com, news@kobtv.com, sandrade@hearst.com, dick.knipfing@krqe.com, erika.ruiz@krqe.com, krqesoundoff@krqe.com, cizaguirre@hearst.com, mmaez@hearst.com, mgarofalo@hearst.com, jjojola@kobtv.com, administration@ci.rio-rancho.nm.us, cmj2nc@aol.com, mayor@ci.rio-rancho.nm.us, PStephenson@rrhs.rrps.k12.nm.us, mhartranft@abqjournal.com, romero@rrhs.rrps.k12.nm.us, asweet@rrhs.rrps.k12.nm.us, parentconnect@rrdo.rrps.k12.nm.us, Arteche@rrhs.rrps.k12.nm.us, DKelly@rrhs.rrps.k12.nm.us, pivy@rrhs.rrps.k12.nm.us, plopez@rrhs.rrps.k12.nm.us, aeveleth@rrhs.rrps.k12.nm.us, Dobson@rrhs.rrps.k12.nm.us, Moreno@rrhs.rrps.k12.nm.us, rgalindo@rrhs.rrps.k12.nm.us, Simmons@rrhs.rrps.k12.nm.us, barbour@rrhs.rrps.k12.nm.us, yvalencia@rrhs.rrps.k12.nm.us, Romero@rrhs.rrps.k12.nm.us, webmaster@rrdo.rrps.k12.nm.us, vonancken@rrhs.rrps.k12.nm.us, service@Jostens.com, rmartinez@abqjournal.com, sspalding@kobtv.com, rdereyes@kobtv.com, van.tate@krqe.com, SStucker@kobtv.com, JLucas@kobtv.com, mike.powers@krqe.com, Roland.Glembine@krqe.com, annie.mccormick@krqe.com, jen.jackson@krqe.com, bill.diven@krqe.com, cornelas@kobtv.com, cmahoney@kobtv.com, adarveaux@kobtv.com, jmaher@kobtv.com, gschwartz@kobtv.com, aantonio@kobtv.com, ekahnert@kobtv.com, nbrady@kobtv.com, jvigil@kobtv.com, caragon@kobtv.com, tjoles@kobtv.com, KOBWebmaster@kobtv.com, edreher@rrdo.rrps.k12.nm.us, kkobam@citcomm.com, Talkradiojim@aol.com, sgarciakrenrich@abqtrib.com, cschwanitz@hearst.com, ebriseno@abqjournal.com, barmijo@abqjournal.com, editor@abqtrib.com
March 23, 2007 7:12 AM
Tony said...
Mr. VonAncken,
I talked to you on the phone when you returned my call after a couple of days off.
The school board let us order our graduation invitations and we were not told we were going
to be limited to six invitations per family.
We have invited our families from out of town and they have already requested time off to be here.
If the school board wants to move the graduation let it be next year .. not in the last quarter of the year.
It is very unfair for all of us who have made plans and invited all our families to attend the graduation.
I have never heard a high school limiting people from attending a high school graduation.
It’s supposed to be a very special accomplishment in life and a lot of young kids will have to stay home and not be able to see what they have to look forward when they graduate.
It’s a very bad decision …
Rio Rancho Graduation Belongs in the Pit
Tony Maez
March 23, 2007 7:32 AM
“Go BIG or stay HOME”! said...
Rio Rancho, you have the largest Graduating Class in the entire State and School History what will you do now?
Rio Rancho, “Go BIG or stay HOME”! “The Pit” is the Biggest venue in the state!
Well we are not going to Disneyland.....NO!!! We are going to have our graduation in Rio Rancho so our money WILL NOT be spent in Albuquerque (as stated by the administration) but NO wait the administration OK’d our announcements, cap & gown, class ring and pictures to be bought in Albuquerque?! Hey, at $100 a pop that is $75,000 or at $180 a pop that is $135,000 or at $200 a pop is $150,000, get the picture? Someone other then Rio Rancho is making out good! Do you realize after all is said and done over $500,000 is being spent in Albuquerque on the whole enchilada anyway?
Our Basketball Championship games leading to the finals were at “The Pit" where everyone that we know seemed to make it there with no complaints of the drive, and all done in Albuquerque. (Which was one of the complaints it was too far (17 miles) and dangerous to drive to the graduation but not for the games, and on several different days Rio Rancho drove there because we kept winning and WON IT ALL!?) We have numerous families in Rio Rancho that are season ticket holders to events at the “The Pit” and other events taking place in Albuquerque where the venue is over 18,000+ persons.
FYI: At “The Pit" you have at least 4 ways to enter from and leave North, South, East and West with at least 3 lanes and a newly constructed Freeway you can use going to or when leaving! Lets compare the venues, who knows how long it will take for us to get to and out of the Santa Ana with the whole 2 ways to get there on a 2 lane road with only 1 lane going in and only 1 lane going out, just exactly like a bottle neck, there are no U turns on this little journey. That sounds like fun to me, make sure the family members that received the “golden ticket” and that are allowed to go, all bring their DVD or CD players while driving to and then leaving to get back home that depending on where you live in Rio Rancho is 15 minutes away, each way, that is with no heavy traffic either. Yes this Graduation is going to take a lot longer then 15 minutes drive time each way both going and coming. Also, take a jaunt out there yourself time it from your driveway all the way to where you stop, where you actually park, it will take some of us longer, and speaking of parking, that is going to be a mess! Don’t forget ONLY 1 way in and 1 way out. Did they take into account people other then Rio Rancho and from Albuquerque or even other cities in the state as well as out of state will be coming to this Graduation? This is very important, not everyone going lives in Rio Rancho! You did not take that into consideration.
The decision lends itself with all of the limits placed on it to: no outsiders allowed! We decree by order of VonDuncan and the “many”, at the very last minute - in Rio Rancho, for Rio Rancho, by Rio Rancho, God forbid if you have more then 6 guests!! 2 Parents, 2 Siblings and only 1 set of Grandparents, that is 6, too bad for “Grammy” and “Grampa”, the other set of Grandparents! If you don’t fit into that cookie cutter template logic if you by chance have an extra family member, then you are out of luck, too bad so sad. And to hell with the Aunts and Uncles and Cousins! Draw straws, that is a great idea! Arm wrestle that’s better yet! And to all you folks that bought airline tickets in advance, …shucks. Or if you worked like hell, extra hours or O.T. to have these days off….oops. Oh and the “extra” tickets available, those will be few and far between because 4,500 divided by 750 is 6! But not everyone will need 6, true but based on previous year’s numbers for person’s attending and the fact this is the Largest Graduating Class ever, both mathematically and logically there will be “many” more Seniors that will need more then 6 tickets! We know because several of the Graduates have stated that “everyone” is asking for extra tickets. Think about it a 15,000-person venue down to a 4,500-person venue, WE NEED TICKETS!!
You say, in the past “we always got ‘The Pit’ on a bad day” well not this year, we have in on a Saturday at 4 PM.
And it is very sad to read in the newspaper, people actually condemning those that just happen to have a larger inner circle of more then 6! The attitude is like shame on you for wanting so many tickets, you know if one family needs 2 tickets tops or less, that’s cool, and if one family needs 20 tickets more or less, that’s cool too! But to condemn anyone that have more in their network is ignorance. Just think about the last high school graduation you went to that was not your own child then think about the one you went to that was not related. Now, after you have done that we only go to graduations that we want to go to because of our history with the graduate. We criticize and punish the person graduating because of too many contacts, how very sad. The persons complaining wrote it was “ridiculous”, that narrow-minded mentality is what is “ridiculous” not those that have a larger inner circle of people. More power to you if you know people that want to come witness your achievement! FYI: Our state has one of the highest dropout and suicide rates in the country, just ask Dr. Cleveland. So obtaining your High School diploma is outstanding!
But large sums of money were saved? So says the administration. Yes exactly $1,990.06 was saved! Great that means the 15,000 seats available at “The Pit” for $8K is a much better deal then the 4,500 seats at the hockey rink for $6K? Wait a minute we better ask someone Graduating who can add, if you do the math, each seat at the rink actually costs more then each seat at “The Pit”? Somehow by that logic if both seats are priced the same we should be only paying a total $2,385.00 for the use of the rink not $6,000.00! Again, that total ($2,385) is based on if both the seats at both venues cost the same.
Speaking of more savings, too bad the decision makers don't pay for the graduation accessories that we have to pay for, bought in Albuquerque not Rio Rancho. If you don’t know, Jostens who is handling the announcements was also affected by this last second poorly planned decision. It is too late for them to take out “The Pit” and the location!!! OOPPSS!! It is already etched in stone so to speak, in all of the announcements! (That is NOT going to look good) And because of the downsizing with this last minute decision we now have a surplus of incorrect announcements, much more then we needed in the first place! Now with all the extra announcements that we paid for, now we have to put a total of 2, yes Dos inserts in them, the administration's insert and now our own insert (how professional looking) because the original announcement will in fact still read the Graduation is at “The Pit", maybe with a thick black magic marker we could draw a large X thru that? But hopefully they will see the first insert, which will explain, no it's not at “The Pit" that portion is wrong it is at the “Santa Ana Star owned by the Casino Center hockey rink” here is a map to show you how to get to the 2 lane road after you have driven thru Rio Rancho, (the professionals spent a lot of time clarifying that little tid-bit of info-the name of the venue, even an editor chimed in) but hopefully we who paid for now too many announcements because of the terrible last minute change without everyone’s input are praying they somehow they will see the second insert stating you can't go we are just teasing you, we only have 6 tickets so we can be like “all the other districts” that can ONLY use their Gym, (although if these districts were 17 miles away would love to use “The” storied “Pit”) unlike us with the State’s largest Graduating Class and can use “The Pit”. HEY, No inserts needed if we stay at “The Pit”. Whether you choose one or two inserts to try to explain this debacle in your announcement it won’t look good and will be confusing. So to those lucky ones that won’t be able to go, just send your regards to your Sister or Brother, or Granddaughter or Grandson or favorite Relative that will be Graduating and we the limited family members that flipped a coin to get in, will tell you how it went!
According to the administration of course the most important part of all this graduation, is, it will be in Rio Rancho at the best facility they could get, so that our Graduates can limit the number of members of their families to see them Graduate after 12 years of working hard and they don't get to decide where they want it, the district did it for them, and with only 2 months to go, thank you so much for the early notice, you allowed us no real time to prepare. Even though we had plans that have to be completely changed! People that purchased airline tickets, took time off, etc. We have nothing else going on in our lives. To change venues with such short notice is affecting our Graduates along with thousands of people, and the administration is OK with that?!
Sadly, in the “words of wisdom” from Rio Rancho High School’s own principal’s mouth, where is says, “the choice is yours.” Clearly this is not true even though it has been stated everyday on the announcements he gives. Not ALL of the Seniors had a say a “choice” in this and it is THEIR DAY, right? Not ALL the parents/guardians had a say a “choice” in this and it is THEIR CHILD’S DAY, right? Only a certain few received this important privilege. Just think about that for a minute or 2, how unfair is that? The “Class Song” is “Dream On”, and that is exactly what VonDuncan and Cleveland has told the Class of 2007, “oh you would like your graduation to be returned to ‘The Pit’ Seniors”? “Well ‘Dream On’ Seniors”.
We heard the excuse, “we couldn’t get all the Seniors on the floor last year if we go the the hockey rink we can”. I’m not sure what has changed on the floor of “The Pit” but check and verify this fact, I know I was present in the early 70’s, Sandia High School graduated 2 classes with over 900+ students on the floor and one class which is the Largest Class ever in NM history, with over 1,000+ Seniors all on the floor. So you might want to see why or how that was. Basically, it can be done.
Because of issues with past Graduations but last years in particular, the Class of 2007 and those closest to them get to feel the brunt of the penalty that they are innocent of. What an interesting lesson in life, forget about the stress this ripple affect is causing right now, the decree has spoken. Forget about what is right or wrong or fair and unfair, the decree has spoken. Forget about the fact your announcement will be tacky and confusing and you have much more then you needed, the decree has spoken. Forget about the fact we disrupted your plans and peoples lives, the decree has spoken. Forget about the fact this is YOUR DAY, this is a Celebration, and ALL of your supporting cast does not have to be present, the decree has spoken. Forget about the fact we told you at the last minute, gave you no fair warning with input coming only from the privileged and the administration, sprinkled with a few politicians, the decree has spoken!
An editor and the administration all referred to the “many” that wanted this, what is the problem with putting this to a vote, right now? You will all find out the actual “many” want this event at “The Pit”. Our Seniors will have to revert back to their grade school days, you print up what 750 notes home with 2 boxes to check on the note - “The Pit” or no “Pit”, parents and guardians along with each Senior will vote. Unlike the decree that has been imposed upon everyone, where only a certain “many” voices were heard and acted on, simply, that decision that act in itself is so wrong and so very unfair, this is America right? (The school Board is supposed to uphold the Constitution of the United States, just ask them). Make sure you number each one of these notes that way they can be counted fairly. Add a few lines so the Graduate and their Parent/Guardian can print and sign. If you have a better idea, wonderful as long as the vote process is fair. If the vote comes back no “Pit”, then the editor, the administration and the so called “many” had a finger on the pulse and IF the vote comes back “The Pit” then Hallelujah! Times a wastin’!
At this point, no fair or reasonable explanation can out weigh ALL the reasons why the Graduation should be at “The Pit”. Go ahead and weigh each and every matter honestly and fairly, both sides, the “proof is in the pudding”, fact, the way this entire decision was imposed has been handled, is wrong and very unfair. If it were above board, we would not be writing this.
Sincere apologies if I offended anyone with my sarcasm, I’ve read several comments back and forth when this started here in March with some good news coverage and then very one sided editors chiming in, contradictions and so on, so like a magnet I am jumping in.
And like those before me read everything below and then please "PASS IT ON!
RIO RANCHO BASKETBALL TEAM YOU JUST ROCKED “THE PIT”,
YOU JUST WON YOUR FIRST STATE CHAMPIONSHIP;
MR. VONDUNCAN ENCOURAGED YOU AND ALL STUDENTS
TO “SHOW THEM WE OWN ‘THE PIT’!!
….AND YOU DID!!
WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO NOW?
“WE’RE GOING TO DISNEY LAN….WAIT….NO…..
WE WANT TO GO BACK TO “THE PIT” FOR OUR GRADUATION, WE OWN IT NOW!!
DID YOU SEE HOW MANY FANS WE HAD THERE?! IT WAS GREAT-GO RAMS!!!
March 23, 2007 7:47 AM
like the web log said...
I FOUND YOU!!!
Thank you for thinking outside "the box" and setting this up. This is great!
Simply, what RRPS has imposed along with everything else they have done regarding this graduation debacle is horrendous! I applaud them for wanting the graduation in Rio Rancho. BUT, not this one, not until the “new” school has a graduating class. No matter how they try to “sell” this, they are hurting too many people. 15 to 16000 persons are affected with roughly 10000 that can’t go.
Evan
March 23, 2007 8:59 AM
toby said...
"15 to 16000 persons are DIRECTLY affected with roughly 10000 that can’t go"
i think that pretty much sums it up.
i would add: they did not solicit everyone's input either.
The board never ruled on this one, this was all admin and those in the "shadows".
Oh, and you "blog" persons, thank you very much.
March 23, 2007 9:09 AM
jess said...
06 Parent
"YES the district should have come up with a variety of options and make them available to the public, obtain feedback and base the decision on that feedback in combination with sound financial decisions (as well as access, parking, etc.). YES the timing should have been better. YES the district has not given the public a voice. YES it should probably be moved back to the PIT for this year's graduation."
March 23, 2007 9:18 AM
news flash said...
We heard RRPS has expanded the center seating from 4500 to a little over 5000.
Graduates will get 2 extra tickets max.
Even with this increase they are STILL not allowing up to 10,000 persons attend!
They are "bent" on having this is RR!
They don't care that they NEVER obtained input from everyone affected.
VonAncken is promising they will assist those with their ticket needs. You snooze you lose here.
These efforts should be spent on dropping the "contract" and moving down the hill.
It is sad and amazing what one can do with "power" both good and bad.
RRPS, "its not why you did it, its how you did it!"
Cal
March 23, 2007 9:34 AM
Malone said...
I guess there'll be a whole new batch of whining with the new efforts to resolve this.
"We'll have to get have cable."
"We have to go buy a VCR."
"We'll have to learn to operate a VCR."
"What are you doing for DISH subscribers?"
March 23, 2007 10:57 AM
bennie said...
Family in full support of returning the graduation to The Pit
thank you
Bennie
March 23, 2007 11:01 AM
?malone? said...
Hello "Malone"
I just read your comments.
What do you mean about "cable", "vcr" and "dish"?
Thanks,
Randell
March 23, 2007 11:08 AM
Bert said...
Hi,
I would like to see more effort on the part of the administration to get this graduation out of Rio Rancho.
I make no apologies for having more then 6 people coming in from out of town. We set this all up months ago. "Sorry don't cut it"
March 23, 2007 11:12 AM
carmen said...
RRPS we do not agree with how you handled this graduation. Everything here hits the nail on the head. We need you to listen and GO BACK TO THE PIT
Carmen
March 23, 2007 11:16 AM
Marie said...
I cannot get a refund now.
This has to go back to the pit!
March 23, 2007 11:17 AM
I hope I did this right? said...
I hope I did this right?
Our family agrees that we need to return the the UNM Pit.
Esteban
March 23, 2007 11:18 AM
thanks malone said...
Hey Malone,
thanks,
where did you get that?
Randell
March 23, 2007 11:21 AM
Ken said...
way "Back to Z Pit" please
March 23, 2007 11:23 AM
sorry said...
How does someone go about accessing channel 15?
sorry
March 23, 2007 11:24 AM
come back "Shane" said...
Please relocate the graduation ceremony to The PIT.
Our family will not have enough tickets for all of us to witness our grandson's graduation.
no really its Shane
March 23, 2007 11:28 AM
back to the pit said...
Ok I was told,
I could put this on the internet
here goes
Walt
March 23, 2007 11:31 AM
I support the petition. said...
I really don't know what to write after reading a ton of these comments. But I do know what the school decided to do at the last minute is wrong on so many levels. I support the petition.
Candice
March 23, 2007 11:36 AM
you can quote me said...
"Random acts of kindness"
you can quote me
but keep them random dammit
March 23, 2007 11:39 AM
60's said...
Funny Funny stuff here!!
Go bloggers get us all back to pit
Thank you all for your efforts,
reminds me of the 60's
March 23, 2007 11:46 AM
Dale said...
RIO RANCHO PUBLIC SCHOOLS: We ask that you change this graduation back to the PIT.
Dale
March 23, 2007 12:03 PM
takin' it to the PIT said...
ok, ok,
after reading,
let me guess,
RRPS has come up with even more exciting ways to really foul things up.
Me figures the contract was signed in blood.
so much for the thousands that would like to actually be there.
BACK TO THE PIT one more time
John
March 23, 2007 12:13 PM
Brad said...
I've spent many years trying to squeak out a living in economically depressed communities in New Mexico.
It sure feels good to finally be in a place where the biggest problems in the minds of residents are related to growing pains.
March 23, 2007 12:16 PM
CAROLYN said...
THE BLOG SPOT IS REALLY WONDERFUL THANK YOU FOR THE COMMENTS. OUR FAMILY WILL HAVE OVER 6 PEOPLE COMING. WE DON'T WANT TICKETS WE WANT TO BE AT THE PIT.
CAROLYN
March 23, 2007 12:22 PM
Jesus H. Christ said...
I need tickets for my 12 apostles; my mother and father; Martha and Mary; their brother, and my good pal, Lazarus (I'd move heaven and earth for that guy!). Why do I want all these people to be there? Because that's just how I roll.
So, if you ask yourself, what would Jesus do? I'm here among you to say, "BACK TO THE PIT!!!"
March 23, 2007 12:35 PM
pete said...
It has been said over and over, lets go back to the pit.
Pete D.
March 23, 2007 12:36 PM
what would Jesus do? said...
Dr. Sue Cleveland,
well?
Pam
March 23, 2007 12:39 PM
greg said...
Hello,
Thank you for your interest. "over and over" we have asked to to return to The Pit.
Thank you
March 23, 2007 1:27 PM
SIGN THE PETITION said...
SIGN THE PETITION
Add your name and/or comments to this thread. If you want to go BACK TO THE PIT click on "COMMENTS" below and write in the space provided. To sign up for a Google account, is completely free, or you can comment using the other options.
Contact us at cmj2nc@aol.com
March 23, 2007 1:47 PM
Lee said...
We are writing you to please take the time to read all this information and input and return this graduation to the pit. Because valuable time is passing us by let the parents vote on this that way we can put this whole mess to rest.
Lee
March 23, 2007 1:59 PM
Mandy said...
Mandy is all for returning the graduation.
Thank you
March 23, 2007 3:14 PM
Mandy said...
Mandy is all for returning the graduation.
Thank you
March 23, 2007 3:14 PM
Mandy said...
Seniors Rule:
Go back to the Pit
March 23, 2007 3:21 PM
Just wondering... said...
Does anyone know if the people who made the decision to move the graduation to the Santa Ana Star Center have a financial interest in the Star Center or the casino or in any of the Center's corporate partners? Wouldn't that constitute a conflict of interest?
March 23, 2007 3:32 PM
Sal said...
Crazy!
This is really crazy, the administration is driven to keep this out of Albuquerque at any expense. Even though the entire way it has been handled was improper and discriminatory to anyone with a large family network. I really applaud them for what they are trying do, I do. But this really should have been presented to everyone concerned, not at the last minute.
Sal
March 23, 2007 3:38 PM
just read this said...
CONFLICT OF INTEREST:
I read both of these comments that have already been posted here, does anyone know?
Just wondering... said...
Does anyone know if the people who made the decision to move the graduation to the Santa Ana Star Center have a financial interest in the Star Center or the casino or in any of the Center's corporate partners? Wouldn't that constitute a conflict of interest?
AND
Homestar Runner & red rabbit said...
By the way, if you click on this link, you will see the list of corporate partners of The Santa Ana Star Center:
Santa Ana Star Casino
The Rio Rancho Observer
99.3 KOB FM
770 KKOB
Mew Mexico's CW
Perfection Honda
JohnnyBoards LLC
First Community Bank
Qwest
Crystal Springs
O'Hare's Grille & Pub / Hot Tamales
Rio Rancho Printing
Connie
March 23, 2007 3:44 PM
Rio Rancho Observer said...
No wonder you are so damn biased you all are "CORPORATE PARTNERS"
"rants and raves" baloney
You all are buddies......pals.
Lisa
March 23, 2007 4:04 PM
RRPS said...
Back to the Pit
Camille
March 23, 2007 4:10 PM
i like this one said...
"15 to 16000 persons are DIRECTLY affected with roughly 10000 that can’t go"
i think that pretty much sums it up.
i would add: they did not solicit everyone's input either.
The board never ruled on this one, this was all admin and those in the "shadows".
March 23, 2007 4:22 PM
$corporate partners$$ said...
WOW!!!!!
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$4
March 23, 2007 4:24 PM
Santa said...
Please return to the Pit.
Val
March 23, 2007 5:02 PM
democracy said...
Hello to everyone in support of returning the graduating class of 2007. I have some good news and some bad news. The good news is people see this for what it is. The bad news is Rio Rancho Public Schools does not? All this effort is very positive it shows what people can do. I have read all of the rhetoric, people have been naughty and nice. They continue to ignore common sense and disobey everything they hold our children to. Honesty, integrity, fairness, democracy and so on. Many here have said it a helluva lot better then me. I'm proud to be a part of this process to get this changed.
Jonathon
March 23, 2007 5:32 PM
corporate conflict of interest pards: said...
Becky S said...
I want to see my niece graduate at the pit not at a center that sounds a lot like a casino.
Are we going to the casino after the graduation, maybe that is where the staff and board members will be. Heh that is why they changed it, now we can understand their decision better. What were you all thinking!!
March 23, 2007 5:35 PM
wayne said...
We agree with this PETITION to return the 2007 graduation back to the PIT.
wayne
March 23, 2007 5:38 PM
do the right thing said...
Ethnocentric attitudes trying to melt down 16,000 people into a 5000 person capacity location.
And they are adamant it HAS to be in Rio Rancho.
Just consider everything right about this change and then consider everything wrong about this change.
The answer is so obvious that it has to be money and power driving this whole decision.
My gosh, these are educated people here right?
There is nothing wrong with having the graduation here in Rio Rancho had the process been fair, but it wasn’t.
There also is nothing wrong with having the graduation in Albuquerque under all the circumstances.
There is a HUGE wrong being forced on entire families by those that are really pushing the change.
Do the right thing.
Adam
March 23, 2007 6:00 PM
This is GREAT!! said...
This is GREAT!!
Back to the Pit please
Santiago
March 23, 2007 6:10 PM
Ditto said...
DITTO to everything here.
Kris
March 23, 2007 6:16 PM
in great company said...
Sports Illustrated's Top-20 Sports Venues of the Century:
In June, 1999, Sports Illustrated listed its top-20 sporting venues of the century and The Pit checked in at No. 13.
“Sports Illustrated in 1999 named The Pit one of the Top 20 sporting venues of the 20th century — a list that includes Yankee Stadium, Wrigley Field, Pebble Beach and Daytona International.
Yeah, that’s big-time company. That’s like being compared to Babe Ruth, Joe Louis, Man O’ War, the Roman Empire, George Washington, Marlon Brando, Katharine Hepburn.
When you make an elite list like that maybe something special had to happen in The Pit above and beyond Lobos basketball.
And it did.”
March 23, 2007 6:57 PM
Anonymous said...
we as parents and graduates need to unite as one and let the board and school know that we will not stand for this. this blog is great and let eachother now what is happening but is the super intendent reading all of this we need to call off the wall and request a emergency board meeting an take off of work or what ever we need to do. But it is going to take alot more than just a few parents to do this. lets continue to let the so called higher ups know that thay cant keep doing what they are doing. They talk about bullies in school and it wont be tolerated but who is doing the bullining WE WONT STAND FOR IT come on every one lets do something
March 23, 2007 6:58 PM
right on.................................................................. said...
right on!!!
right on!!!
right on!!!
March 23, 2007 6:59 PM
Luke said...
Dang!!
I am really sorry I am late to this little get together.
You all took the words right out of my mouth.
We support this petition.
Luke
March 23, 2007 7:03 PM
Anonymous said...
please contact Yvette at 994-9648 to help her get names and # to support our voices. we need to present them to the board.
March 23, 2007 7:03 PM
Jill said...
Luke said...
Dang!!
I am really sorry I am late to this little get together.
You all took the words right out of my mouth.
We support this petition.
Luke
March 23, 2007 7:07 PM
don't give up said...
Don't give up
March 23, 2007 7:12 PM
Anonymous said...
We need your help Yvette has arrainged for someone from the news chanell to come out on sunday the 25th to the Santa Ana Star Center at 1:00 pm to come and talk to us parents and those who would like to voice there say in this. PLEASE PLEASE come out and help support us lets show the board they cant just bully us. We need to show that we want the pit back. Please call Yvette for more info 994-9648 thanks for all your support.
March 23, 2007 7:30 PM
Anonymous said...
did you hear about the new decision that RRHS has now.
Lets broad cast it on TV. WOW what a great IDEA lets just let frends and family sit in our living room with a bowl of popcorn and soda and ejoy the show. How tacky is that.
March 23, 2007 7:36 PM
TO YVETTE said...
YVETTE,
WHAT IS YOU EMAIL ADDRESS?
SO PEOPLE CAN HAVE IT.
THANK YOU
RYAN
March 23, 2007 7:51 PM
CALL YVETTE 994-9648 said...
Hello everyone that would like the graduation to return to THE PIT.
IT IS NOT TO LATE, DON'T GIVE UP.
Please contact Yvette at 994-9648 to help her get names and #’s to support our voices.
We need to network with everyone and present our concerns to the board and administration.
We need to show strength in numbers.
We need your help Yvette has arranged for someone from the news channel to come out on Sunday the 25th to the Santa Ana Star Center at 1:00 pm to come and talk to all parents and those who would like to voice their say in this.
PLEASE EVERYONE, PLEASE come out and help support our request to GO BACK TO THE PIT!.
Lets show the board and administration they can’t just bully us.
WE NEED TO SHOW THAT WE WANT THE PIT BACK.
Please call Yvette for more info 994-9648 thanks for all your support.
REMEMBER WE HAVE TO WORK TOGETHER.
DON'T GIVE UP THERE IS A LOT MORE FAMILIES AND PEOPLE THAT WANT IT AT THE PIT!
THE PIT WILL HOLD UP 15 TO 16,000 PEOPLE.
THAT MEANS OVER 10 TO 11,000 PEOPLE WON’T BE ABLE TO GO.
GO BACK TO THE PIT!!
Thank you,
Yvette
March 23, 2007 7:55 PM
CLICK ON YOUR REFRESH BUTTON said...
CLICK ON YOUR REFRESH BUTTON
March 23, 2007 7:58 PM
yaragon said...
this is Yvette and I did get the news to come to the santa ana to broadcast our opionion they are also intrested in hearing from SENIORS graduating as well, I also want everyone to know that I did get the opportunity to speak to our "WONDERFUL SCHOOL BOARD PRESIDENT" when I asked who had input on the decision to make the change of graduation she said that the school board made the decision on what they thought the community,graduates and parents would have decided to do but WHAT GIVES THEM THE RIGHT TO THINK FOR US just because they are on the school board they still are supposed to involve the students and their parents thats what the board is supposed to do but when speaking to her I got the impression from the way she spoke to me in her words "no matter what we do or say the contract has already been signed and the money been paid and this is the way it is going to be whether we like it or not to bad" and another thing that bothered me was that she said "that life was full of disappointments and that this was one of them and that our graduates needed to forget about it and move on" I am sure that our graduates have had pleanty of disappointments in their life and have already learned to move on or they would not be graduating now and so they know that our voices and thoughts do matter please come on SUNDAY MARCH 25, 2007 at 1:00 pm to the SANTA ANA CENTER where graduation is supposed to be held and I hope that the board is also reading these comments because they also need to know that they were voted into these positions because the community put them their and these types of decisions can also have them taken out the graduates have followed all the rules that you as board members have put into place for all the years that they have been in school and now you let them know that their family and friends cannot not be their with them come on show our graduates THAT WE SUPPORT THEM AND WHAT THEY THINK DOES MATTER anyone intrested in emailing me can at nanee_angel@yahoo.com and PLEASE HELP I CANNOT DO THIS ALONE WE HAVE TO DO THIS AS PARENT SUPPORT FOR OUR GRADUATES
March 23, 2007 9:16 PM
Anonymous said...
FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, THE PRESIDENT OF THE SCHOOL BOARD WAS APPROACHED BY A CONCERNED PARENT VIA PHONE ASKING WHY THIS DECISION WAS MADE WITHOUT FAIR INVOLVEMENT FROM THE STUDENTS, AND PARENTS ALIKE. HER ANSWER WAS LESS THAN CORDIAL AND SHE STATED THAT SHE MADE THE DECISION WITHOUT CONSULTING ANYONE BECAUSE SHE HAD THE AUTHORITY TO DO SO.. NOT ONLY DO I FIND THIS HORRIBLY OFFENSIVE, BUT NOT EXACTLY CORRECT. MRS. PRESIDENT OF THE STUDENT BOARD YOU ARE HEREBY PUT ON NOTICE...YOU ONLY HAVE THE AUTHORITY THAT WE AS VOTERS GAVE YOU. IN THIS DECISION MAAM YOU ARE NOT REPRESENTING WHAT WE WANT. I THINK WE NEED TO SERIOUSLY RECONSIDER JUST HOW MUCH AUTHORITY WE WILL ALLOW YOU TO HAVE.
I Assure you this isssue will haunt you for the rest of your shortlived political career. Rio Rancho parents and citizens will not allow this obvious abuse of trust and power to go on unquestioned or unchallenged. Our children are very dear to us. We though you undertood that.
March 23, 2007 9:16 PM
CALL YVETTE 994-9648 said...
CALL YVETTE 994-9648
Hello everyone that would like the graduation to return to THE PIT.
IT IS NOT TO LATE, DON'T GIVE UP.
Please contact Yvette at 994-9648 to help her get names and #’s to support our voices.
We need to network with everyone and present our concerns to the board and administration.
We need to show strength in numbers.
We need your help Yvette has arranged for someone from the news channel to come out on Sunday the 25th to the Santa Ana Star Center at 1:00 pm to come and talk to all parents and those who would like to voice their say in this.
PLEASE EVERYONE, PLEASE come out and help support our request to GO BACK TO THE PIT!.
Lets show the board and administration they can’t just bully us.
WE NEED TO SHOW THAT WE WANT THE PIT BACK.
Please call Yvette for more info 994-9648 thanks for all your support.
REMEMBER WE HAVE TO WORK TOGETHER.
DON'T GIVE UP THERE IS A LOT MORE FAMILIES AND PEOPLE THAT WANT IT AT THE PIT!
THE PIT WILL HOLD UP 15 TO 16,000 PEOPLE.
THAT MEANS OVER 10 TO 11,000 PEOPLE WON’T BE ABLE TO GO.
GO BACK TO THE PIT!!
Thank you,
Yvette
March 23, 2007 9:27 PM
Anonymous said...
PUT ON NOTICE PART 2
WAY TO GO YVETTE!!!!
I WILL DEFINATELY BE THERE !!!!!
JOSEPH
March 23, 2007 9:28 PM
Anonymous said...
PUT ON NOTICE PART 3
I APOLOGIZE IT IS NOT THE PRESIDENT OF THE STUDENT BOARD IT IS THE PRESIDENT OF THE SCHOOL BOARD THAT IS SO WRONGLY MISINFORMED. JUST LIKE I MADE THE CORRECTION TO THIS MISTAKE, THE PRESIDENT OF THE SCHOOL BOARD SHOULD CORRECT HERS.
JOSEPH
March 23, 2007 9:36 PM
contact nanee_angel@yahoo.com said...
EMAIL YVETTE: nanee_angel@yahoo.com
CALL YVETTE: 994-9648
Hello everyone that would like the graduation to return to THE PIT.
IT IS NOT TO LATE, DON'T GIVE UP.
Please contact Yvette at 994-9648 to help her get names and #’s to support our voices.
We need to network with everyone and present our concerns to the board and administration.
We need to show strength in numbers.
We need your help Yvette has arranged for someone from the news channel to come out on Sunday the 25th to the Santa Ana Star Center at 1:00 pm to come and talk to all parents and those who would like to voice their say in this.
PLEASE EVERYONE, PLEASE come out and help support our request to GO BACK TO THE PIT!.
Lets show the board and administration they can’t just bully us.
WE NEED TO SHOW THAT WE WANT THE PIT BACK.
Please call Yvette for more info 994-9648 thanks for all your support.
REMEMBER WE HAVE TO WORK TOGETHER.
DON'T GIVE UP THERE IS A LOT MORE FAMILIES AND PEOPLE THAT WANT IT AT THE PIT!
THE PIT WILL HOLD UP 15 TO 16,000 PEOPLE.
THAT MEANS OVER 10 TO 11,000 PEOPLE WON’T BE ABLE TO GO.
GO BACK TO THE PIT!!
Thank you,
Yvette
March 23, 2007 9:59 PM
Ashton said...
We agree with this PETITION to return the 2007 graduation back to the PIT.
Ashton
March 23, 2007 10:49 PM
Dick said...
You all have already written what I wanted to say, thank you.
We agree with this PETITION to return the 2007 graduation back to the PIT.
Dick
March 23, 2007 10:54 PM
gidget said...
City of Vision
wake up!
March 23, 2007 10:56 PM
Oscar said...
We agree with this PETITION to return the 2007 graduation back to the PIT.
Oscar
March 23, 2007 10:57 PM
Dr. said...
We agree with this PETITION to return the 2007 graduation back to the PIT.
Dr. Sue Cleveland
March 23, 2007 10:58 PM
we wish the dr. said...
We agree with this PETITION to return the 2007 graduation back to the PIT.
Anne
March 23, 2007 10:59 PM
D said...
We agree with this PETITION to return the 2007 graduation back to the PIT.
Dara
March 23, 2007 11:00 PM
Allen said...
I saw the newscast by KOAT-TV yesterday.
They are trying their darndest to stay in RR.
I pray they would put that much energy to change it back!
Allen
March 23, 2007 11:02 PM
JT said...
That President of the school board was a witch!
They have NO respect for parents or our children.
I will make it a point to let everyone know what a joke that is.
It is a gool ol' boy network.
And they are stuck on themselves.
March 23, 2007 11:06 PM
8-tickets said...
6-ticket limit.
One Graduate, has 4 Grandparents, 2 Parents, that equals 6 tickets, but what about divorced families that would now have 6 Grandparents and 4 Parents, that equals 8?
That does not even include Sisters, Brothers, Aunts, Uncles, Nieces, Nephews, Cousins, Loved Ones, Neighbors, past Teachers, Employers and Friends!
Now they are saying we will get 8-tickets
We want to have all families and the graduates vote
GO BACK TO THE PIT
March 23, 2007 11:13 PM
Elaine D. Briseño said...
Thursday's announcements still might not appease some parents.
Tony Maez said he is a divorced parent of a graduating senior. He ordered 40 invitations and split them with his wife. He said each is expecting to use all their invitations, meaning even the eight-ticket limit wouldn't be enough. As for the telecast, he said that won't help much either because he has satellite. Maez said he might consider sending some people to the high school to watch it if he does not get enough tickets.
Maez said the school should have waited until next year's graduation to make the switch so parents were not surprised.
"I don't have a problem with them moving the graduation to Rio Rancho, but please tell us at the beginning of the year," he said. "This is awful. It (the broadcast) is a Band-Aid to what they did."
Sharon Parker, who has been outspoken about the change, said the broadcast is an admission that the school was wrong when it decided to change the venue.
"It (the broadcast) does not solve my problem," she said. "When they announce (my daughter's) name, I want her to hear them yelling for her," she said. "I want them to be able to hug her when it's over."
Friday, March 23, 2007
Commencement to Be Televised
By Elaine D. Briseño
Journal Staff Writer
This year's Rio Rancho High School graduation ceremony, which turned controversial when the event was moved to the Santa Ana Star Center, will be televised live on cable Channel 15.
The school administration announced at the end of February it would move the May 19 ceremony from the Pit in Albuquerque to the Star Center in Rio Rancho. The move angered some parents because the smaller venue means the school was going to have to limit the number of guests to six per student.
The Pit can accommodate more than 18,000 with standing room while the capacity at Santa Ana is between 6,000 and 7,000.
(It will be closer to 5,000 for the graduation set up)
RioVision, the community access cable channel, announced Thursday it will air the event on CableOne Channel 15 at 4 p.m. May 19. It will be rebroadcast at some point on Channel 17.
"... We've worked with CableOne, (RRHS) principal Richard Von Ancken and the Santa Ana Star Center so that we'll be able to carry the graduation ceremony live," Ed Smith, owner of Edit House Productions LLC, which manages RioVision, said in a news release. "Friends and family members will be able to gather at homes or community venues to see the ceremony."
Residents who have a satellite dish or no cable will not be able to see the broadcast at home. However, Rio Rancho Public Schools will open the high school's Performing Arts Center so the public can view the event there.
Meanwhile, VonAncken said Thursday that the school has increased the number of tickets per student to eight. He also said that local businesses have donated their suites. There will be a drawing to determine which students will be able to use them.
VanAncken said the capacity at the Star Center on graduation day will be about 6,300.
(It will be closer to 5,000 he is fudging)
Students will also have the opportunity to get extra tickets from their friends or to get unclaimed tickets from the school.
VonAncken has said he switched to the smaller arena because he was approached by parents to do it and it also offers a more intimate setting. The Pit, he has said, does not have enough room to accommodate the school's 700 graduates.
Thursday's announcements still might not appease some parents.
Tony Maez said he is a divorced parent of a graduating senior. He ordered 40 invitations and split them with his wife. He said each is expecting to use all their invitations, meaning even the eight-ticket limit wouldn't be enough. As for the telecast, he said that won't help much either because he has satellite. Maez said he might consider sending some people to the high school to watch it if he does not get enough tickets.
Maez said the school should have waited until next year's graduation to make the switch so parents were not surprised.
"I don't have a problem with them moving the graduation to Rio Rancho, but please tell us at the beginning of the year," he said. "This is awful. It (the broadcast) is a Band-Aid to what they did."
Sharon Parker, who has been outspoken about the change, said the broadcast is an admission that the school was wrong when it decided to change the venue.
"It (the broadcast) does not solve my problem," she said. "When they announce (my daughter's) name, I want her to hear them yelling for her," she said. "I want them to be able to hug her when it's over."
VonAcken said the school is doing everything it can to offer more tickets to families who have people coming in from out of town. He said he does not regret moving the ceremony to Rio Rancho and has had only about 14 families approach the school about needing tickets for people coming from out of town for the event.
March 23, 2007 11:25 PM
Stephanie Garcia Krenrich said...
GRADUATION SITE SWITCH IRKS RIO RANCHO PARENTS
By Stephanie Garcia Krenrich Friday, March 23, 2007
This year, Rio Rancho High School's graduating seniors won't have to drive miles to The Pit, and instead can walk the aisle in a new arena in their own hometown.
(17-18 miles to The Pit on a new freeway with entry and exits N, S, E and W on 3-4 lane roads. For the center you have to drive through Rio Rancho to get to a 2 lane highway, with ONLY 1 way in and 1 way out of the venue, and no way to turnaround! This is easily a 15-minute drive for residents IN Rio Rancho depending what part of the city you live in and the time estimate is with ONLY minimal traffic! Traffic on May 19 will be packed!)
Sound good? Well, not to everyone.
For some of the nearly 700 graduates and their families, the decision to hold commencement exercises at the Santa Ana Star Center instead of The Pit has one big problem.
The new place isn't big enough.
"I ordered 40 invitations," said Tony Maez, whose son will graduate from Rio Rancho High School during the May 19 ceremony. "I'm a divorced parent. My ex-wife has her family. Things like this they should have considered. Now I'm telling my relatives to wait and see what happens."
The Santa Ana Star Center, which opened in November, will hold 5,500 of the graduates' family and friends,
(They originally said 4,500, then they said a little over 5,000, VonAncken is trying to say over 6,000, it will be closer to 5,000)
while the The Pit held 11,000 for the ceremony last year, said Bill Duncan, Rio Rancho High activities director.
(It was closer to 14,000, they had to open a closed section last year. It was a biggest crowd compared to all the other APS graduations in 06. 07 has a bigger class)
The limited space has prompted a collection of angry parents to air their opposition publicly. Some even formed a BLOG to express their distaste over the move.
"The decision should have been made before rather than after families have begun planning," a parent wrote on the blog, at http://www.rioranchogradsunite.blogspot.com/
Kim Vesely, spokeswoman for Rio Rancho Public Schools, said the change was made so students can have graduation in their hometown.
"For many years we've had many inquiries about holding graduation in Rio Rancho," she said. "With the opening of the Santa Ana Star Center, we were able to do it."
Because of the smaller number of seats available, the district will allow graduates a limited number of guests, Duncan said.
Originally, six tickets were to be issued to each graduate this year. That has since been increased to eight tickets each, said Rio Rancho High Principal Richard VonAncken.
The district will make 600 extra tickets available to students, which will be distributed two at a time, starting in early May until they're gone, VonAncken said.
(Those 600 tickets are at the high school and will be televised, this is not at the center)
The ceremony will be also televised on Channel 15, Rio Rancho's public access channel.
Graduation has been held at The Pit for at least the last five years, Duncan said. Before that, the ceremony was at the University of New Mexico's Johnson Gym.
The school district originally set this year's graduation at The Pit on May 19 at 4 p.m. That changed when officials realized the same graduation date and time would be available at the Santa Ana Star Center, Duncan said.
People who oppose the facility change say they weren't involved in the decision-making process.
"It is apparent there was not enough public deliberation about this issue," one parent wrote on the blog. "A decision affecting the entire school population should have been discussed publicly so that all voices were heard prior to the decision."
Although the decision was made at the school level by the principal and the staff, parents were notified immediately in a letter, Vesely said.
(Only 2 months notice)
The change will force families to adjust, Vesely said, but it will have some advantages.
"The graduating class is now so big that students couldn't sit on the gym floor at The Pit," Vesely said. "The (Santa Ana) center has a bigger floor. Students will be able to sit together, and it's a better facility for handicap access."
(They put over a 1,000 graduates on The Pit floor before for some of the past APS schools, it can be done)
Maez says he doesn't oppose the new facility or the fact that school officials want to have the ceremony in their hometown.
But he believes parents should have been informed earlier.
"This is a big step for a kid that is graduating," Maez said. "They want their family to be there."
March 24, 2007 12:06 AM
echarles1234@aol.com said...
If you are against the move to return to THE PIT, email echarles1234@aol.com with your comments.
Thank you
March 24, 2007 6:59 AM
please SIGN THE PETITION said...
SIGN THE PETITION
Add your name and/or comments to this thread. If you want to go BACK TO THE PIT click on "COMMENTS" below and write in the space provided. To sign up for a Google account, is completely free, or you can comment using the other options.
Contact us at cmj2nc@aol.com
March 24, 2007 7:07 AM
To Sue Cleveland said...
To Sue Cleveland,
You are going to get sued or have an injunction brought against you.
What comes around will go around.
Honestly, you are a much better person than this BIG mess.
Here is your time to shine and stop this terrible ordeal.
You have not heard the end of this.
Comment after comment show you never let parents, guardians, seniors, families provide input or have a fair vote or poll.
You only let certain people call in and complain and accepted that along with the other driving force to have this in Rio Rancho.
There is NOTHING wrong with that as long as you let EVERYONE impacted state their case.
That has NOT happened yet.
Have a fair vote now or take it back to The PIT.
I am reading between the lines you are trying very hard to do the right thing and keep the graduation safe.
You are being pressured by someone or others that clearly have power over you.
Because what you are forcing and mandating on graduating seniors and their loved ones in WRONG!
We did the math you are not saving money concerning this matter.
Just by the way you are handling this mistake will not set well at all.
This huge push now by you and company to keep this in Rio Rancho at all costs confirms your error.
But, you are still falling way short concerning the BIG picture; this entire process was NOT FAIR!
You are ignoring that major problem.
Listen; just by you going back to The PIT will calm the crowd.
Sue Cleveland, do the right thing.
Kyle
March 24, 2007 7:29 AM
Anonymous said...
WE NEED ALL THE SUPPORT PLEASE REMEMBER TO COME OUT TO THE SANTA ANA STAR CENTER TO ON SUNDAY THE 25TH AT 1:00PM TO RALLY TOGETHER WE NEED YOU ALL THAT ARE WRITING IN THANKS
March 24, 2007 8:08 AM
koat-tv 2 newscasts: said...
UPDATE:
SEE BOTH NEWSCASTS BELOW:
KOAT is interested in updating THEIR story on the fight to have the graduation ceremonies moved back to the Pit. "ANYONE" interested in doing an interview. Please write back with contact information or call.
Cary J. Schwanitz
505-884-6324
Email cschwanitz@hearst.com if you want your views to be heard by KOAT.
News Coverage
KOAT-TV had excellent coverage of the Rio Rancho graduation moving from its original venue at The Pit. There's a short commercial right before the main story.
FIRST STORY:
www.koat.com/video/11177714/index.html?taf=alb
SECOND STORY:
http://www.koat.com/video/11334805/index.html?taf=alb
March 24, 2007 8:12 AM
Albuquerque Tribune said...
Please email and call Stephanie:
She did a GREAT STORY below:
(Note: The Parentheses comments() along with her story are from one of our Blog contributors, [thank you])
HI, this is Stephanie from the Albuquerque Tribune. I'd like to speak to someone about this. My number is 823-3609.
Thanks,
Stephanie Garcia Krenrich
sgarciakrenrich@abqtrib.com
Stephanie Garcia Krenrich said...
GRADUATION SITE SWITCH IRKS RIO RANCHO PARENTS
By Stephanie Garcia Krenrich Friday, March 23, 2007
This year, Rio Rancho High School's graduating seniors won't have to drive miles to The Pit, and instead can walk the aisle in a new arena in their own hometown.
(17-18 miles to The Pit on a new freeway with entry and exits N, S, E and W on 3-4 lane roads. For the center you have to drive through Rio Rancho to get to a 2 lane highway, with ONLY 1 way in and 1 way out of the venue, and no way to turnaround! This is easily a 15-minute drive for residents IN Rio Rancho depending what part of the city you live in and the time estimate is with ONLY minimal traffic! Traffic on May 19 will be packed!)
Sound good? Well, not to everyone.
For some of the nearly 700 graduates and their families, the decision to hold commencement exercises at the Santa Ana Star Center instead of The Pit has one big problem.
The new place isn't big enough.
"I ordered 40 invitations," said Tony Maez, whose son will graduate from Rio Rancho High School during the May 19 ceremony. "I'm a divorced parent. My ex-wife has her family. Things like this they should have considered. Now I'm telling my relatives to wait and see what happens."
The Santa Ana Star Center, which opened in November, will hold 5,500 of the graduates' family and friends,
(They originally said 4,500, then they said a little over 5,000, VonAncken is trying to say over 6,000, it will be closer to 5,000)
while the The Pit held 11,000 for the ceremony last year, said Bill Duncan, Rio Rancho High activities director.
(It was closer to 14,000, they had to open a closed section last year. It was a biggest crowd compared to all the other APS graduations in 06. 07 has a bigger class)
The limited space has prompted a collection of angry parents to air their opposition publicly. Some even formed a BLOG to express their distaste over the move.
"The decision should have been made before rather than after families have begun planning," a parent wrote on the blog, at http://www.rioranchogradsunite.blogspot.com/
Kim Vesely, spokeswoman for Rio Rancho Public Schools, said the change was made so students can have graduation in their hometown.
"For many years we've had many inquiries about holding graduation in Rio Rancho," she said. "With the opening of the Santa Ana Star Center, we were able to do it."
Because of the smaller number of seats available, the district will allow graduates a limited number of guests, Duncan said.
Originally, six tickets were to be issued to each graduate this year. That has since been increased to eight tickets each, said Rio Rancho High Principal Richard VonAncken.
The district will make 600 extra tickets available to students, which will be distributed two at a time, starting in early May until they're gone, VonAncken said.
(Those 600 tickets are at the high school and will be televised, this is not at the center)
The ceremony will be also televised on Channel 15, Rio Rancho's public access channel.
Graduation has been held at The Pit for at least the last five years, Duncan said. Before that, the ceremony was at the University of New Mexico's Johnson Gym.
The school district originally set this year's graduation at The Pit on May 19 at 4 p.m. That changed when officials realized the same graduation date and time would be available at the Santa Ana Star Center, Duncan said.
People who oppose the facility change say they weren't involved in the decision-making process.
"It is apparent there was not enough public deliberation about this issue," one parent wrote on the blog. "A decision affecting the entire school population should have been discussed publicly so that all voices were heard prior to the decision."
Although the decision was made at the school level by the principal and the staff, parents were notified immediately in a letter, Vesely said.
(Only 2 months notice)
The change will force families to adjust, Vesely said, but it will have some advantages.
"The graduating class is now so big that students couldn't sit on the gym floor at The Pit," Vesely said. "The (Santa Ana) center has a bigger floor. Students will be able to sit together, and it's a better facility for handicap access."
(They put over a 1,000 graduates on The Pit floor before for some of the past APS schools, it can be done)
Maez says he doesn't oppose the new facility or the fact that school officials want to have the ceremony in their hometown.
But he believes parents should have been informed earlier.
"This is a big step for a kid that is graduating," Maez said. "They want their family to be there."
March 24, 2007 8:22 AM
yadaughter said...
I AM A SENIOR THIS YEAR AND I REALLY THINK HOW THEY MOVED GRADUATION WITHOUT INFORMING US BEFORE WE BOUGHT OUR ANNOUNCEMENTS WAS VERY WRONG. THEY SHOULD HAVE LET US KNOW SOONER SO WE COULD HAVE TOLD OUR FAMILIES THAT ARE OUT OF TOWN TO JUST STAY HOME. THE SCHOOL ALWAYS CRIES AND COMPLAINS WHEN WE DONT FOLLOW THERE RULES WELL LOOK WHO IS NOT FOLLOWING THEM NOW! WHY SHOULD WE FOLLOW RULES IF THEY AINT EVEN GONNA FOLLOW THEM ITS JUST NOT FAIR. IT ALSO MEANS SO MUCH TOO MANY OF US SENIORS TO HAVE OUR FAMILY AND FRIENDS TO WATCH US GRADUATE. THEY ARE SAYING THEY CAN WATCH IT ON TV ITS NOT THE SAME. WE WANT SUPPORT NOT JUST FROM OUR PARENTS WE WANT IT FROM EVERYONE.IT IS A BIG ACCOMPLISHMENT IN OUR LIVES AND WE WANT TO SHOW OUR FAMILIES AND FRIENDS THAT WE DID IT AND HOW PROUD OF US THEY ARE. HOW ARE WE GONNA GET SUPPORT IF THEY ARE AT HOME?YOU WANT THEM TO SIT ON THE COUCH AND YELL FROM HOME? OW YEAH REAL GOOD WE WILL HEAR THEM CHEERING FOR US...THATS NOT RIGHT...I AM RELLY GLAD THAT MY MOM IS DOING EVERYTHING TO SHOW THE PRESIDENT OF THE SCHOOL BOARD THAT SHE DOES NOT HAVE THE POWER TO THINK FOR US OR DO WHAT SHE WANTS JUST SHE IS THE "PRESIDENT" HOW BIG DEAL AND I AM A SENIOR SO WHAT? IT NEEDS TO GET MOVED BACK TO THE PIT!!!WE OWN THE PIT THANKS TO OUR BOYS BASKETBALL SO NOW WHY CANT WE GRADUATE THERE? PLEASE EVERYONE BE THERE ON SUNDAY AT 1:00 TO HELP SUPPORT ME AND MY MOM AND SHOW THE SCHOOL BOARD THAT THEY NEED TO INVOLVE US TOO NOT JUST THEMSELVES.
March 24, 2007 8:25 AM
tomorrow SUNDAY 25TH AT 1:00PM said...
WE NEED ALL YOUR SUPPORT PLEASE
REMEMBER TO COME OUT TO THE SANTA ANA STAR CENTER TO ON SUNDAY THE 25TH AT 1:00PM
THAT IS TOMORROW!
TO RALLY TOGETHER WE NEED YOU ALL THAT ARE WRITING IN
THANKS
March 24, 2007 8:26 AM
senior said...
I have worked my butt off in high school and my ENTIRE family has supported me in these twelve hard years of work and this is how you repay the class of 2007?
It's not my fault you're only giving me six tickets, oh, maybe eight?
Since RRPS is so good at making my decisions for me than maybe you can help me evaluate how I am going to divide up my tickets among my family and loved ones?
We were not asked for or allowed to give you our thoughts.
March 24, 2007 9:06 AM
the "skinny" said...
The Santa Ana Casino are "Corporate Partners" with the Santa Ana Star Center.
Who would you rather have benefit? The Casino? or the University of New Mexico?
What percentage of RRPS has attended UNM?
What percentage of RRPS 2007 will attended UNM?
Thank you for the "skinny"
http://www.santaanastarcenter.com/corporate_
partners.php
March 24, 2007 9:17 AM
CONFLICT OF INTEREST said...
just read this said...
CONFLICT OF INTEREST:
I read both of these comments that have already been posted here, does anyone know?
Just wondering... said...
Does anyone know if the people who made the decision to move the graduation to the Santa Ana Star Center have a financial interest in the Star Center or the casino or in any of the Center's corporate partners? Wouldn't that constitute a conflict of interest?
AND
Homestar Runner & red rabbit said...
By the way, if you click on this link, you will see the list of corporate partners of The Santa Ana Star Center:
Santa Ana Star Casino
The Rio Rancho Observer
99.3 KOB FM
770 KKOB
Mew Mexico's CW
Perfection Honda
JohnnyBoards LLC
First Community Bank
Qwest
Crystal Springs
O'Hare's Grille & Pub / Hot Tamales
Rio Rancho Printing
Connie
March 24, 2007 9:22 AM
annabelle said...
I support returning the graduation to The Pit.
March 24, 2007 9:34 AM
CALL YVETTE 994-9648 today please said...
CALL YVETTE: 994-9648
EMAIL YVETTE: nanee_angel@yahoo.com
Hello everyone that would like the graduation to return to THE PIT.
We need your help Yvette has arranged for someone from the news channel to come out on Sunday the 25th to the Santa Ana Star Center at 1:00 pm to come and talk to all parents and those who would like to voice their say in this.
IT IS NOT TO LATE, DON'T GIVE UP.
Please contact Yvette at 994-9648 to help her get names and #’s to support our voices.
We need to network with everyone and present our concerns to the board and administration.
We need to show strength in numbers.
We need your help Yvette has arranged for someone from the news channel to come out on Sunday the 25th to the Santa Ana Star Center at 1:00 pm to come and talk to all parents and those who would like to voice their say in this.
PLEASE EVERYONE, PLEASE come out and help support our request to GO BACK TO THE PIT!.
Lets show the board and administration they can’t just bully us.
WE NEED TO SHOW THAT WE WANT THE PIT BACK.
Please call Yvette for more info 994-9648 thanks for all your support.
REMEMBER WE HAVE TO WORK TOGETHER.
DON'T GIVE UP THERE IS A LOT MORE FAMILIES AND PEOPLE THAT WANT IT AT THE PIT!
THE PIT WILL HOLD UP 15 TO 16,000 PEOPLE.
THAT MEANS OVER 10 TO 11,000 PEOPLE WON’T BE ABLE TO GO.
GO BACK TO THE PIT!!
Thank you,
Yvette
March 24, 2007 9:37 AM
Lenora said...
I understand the chaos of organizing a high school graduation and inevitably someone is going to be less than happy about the result. But to callously disregard the plans and wishes of multiple family members goes beyond any kind of administrative SNAFU.
Gradution ceremonies are ultimately about the achievements of the students and an opportunity for loved ones to celebrate those achievements. For Rio Rancho to dismiss the concerns and outrage of family members is to disregard the spirit of the ceremony.
Isn't obvious? Do the right thing.
March 24, 2007 9:42 AM
do wah ditto.... said...
ditto to this HUGE SNAFU!!!
I understand the chaos of organizing a high school graduation and inevitably someone is going to be less than happy about the result. But to callously disregard the plans and wishes of multiple family members goes beyond any kind of administrative SNAFU.
Graduation ceremonies are ultimately about the achievements of the students and an opportunity for loved ones to celebrate those achievements. For Rio Rancho to dismiss the concerns and outrage of family members is to disregard the spirit of the ceremony.
Isn't obvious? Do the right thing.
March 24, 2007 10:42 AM
aggie said...
I support returning the graduation to The Pit.
March 24, 2007 11:09 AM
we agree said...
We support returning the graduation to The Pit.
Tom
March 24, 2007 11:16 AM
Manny said...
GREAT comments!!
We agree,
don't do us wrong RRPS.
March 24, 2007 11:20 AM
AMERICANS said...
RRPS
We are
AMERICANS
not
ameri-can'ts
“To the Graduating Class of Seniors 2007”
After 12-13 years of working towards graduating, we hoped you have learned.
We hoped you have learned to discriminate and impose your will on others.
Especially, don't use anything we taught you about "Democracy", rather, “do as I say, not as I do” is a much more advantageous edict.
All I am saying is
R U AN AMERI-CAN
OR
AN AMERI-CAN'T?
That is all I am asking.
Ethan
March 24, 2007 11:45 AM
back to the pit said...
BACK TO THE PIT!
it is that simple......
Jennifer
March 24, 2007 12:56 PM
CALL YVETTE 994-9648 today please said...
CALL YVETTE: 994-9648
EMAIL YVETTE: nanee_angel@yahoo.com
Hello everyone that would like the graduation to return to THE PIT.
We need your help Yvette has arranged for someone from the news channel to come out on Sunday the 25th to the Santa Ana Star Center at 1:00 pm to come and talk to all parents and those who would like to voice their say in this.
IT IS NOT TO LATE, DON'T GIVE UP.
Please contact Yvette at 994-9648 to help her get names and #’s to support our voices.
We need to network with everyone and present our concerns to the board and administration.
We need to show strength in numbers.
We need your help Yvette has arranged for someone from the news channel to come out on Sunday the 25th to the Santa Ana Star Center at 1:00 pm to come and talk to all parents and those who would like to voice their say in this.
PLEASE EVERYONE, PLEASE come out and help support our request to GO BACK TO THE PIT!.
Lets show the board and administration they can’t just bully us.
WE NEED TO SHOW THAT WE WANT THE PIT BACK.
Please call Yvette for more info 994-9648 thanks for all your support.
REMEMBER WE HAVE TO WORK TOGETHER.
DON'T GIVE UP THERE IS A LOT MORE FAMILIES AND PEOPLE THAT WANT IT AT THE PIT!
THE PIT WILL HOLD UP 15 TO 16,000 PEOPLE.
THAT MEANS OVER 10 TO 11,000 PEOPLE WON’T BE ABLE TO GO.
GO BACK TO THE PIT!!
Thank you,
Yvette
March 24, 2007 1:53 PM
back to the pit said...
we as parents and graduates need to unite as one and let the board and school know that we will not stand for this. this blog is great and let each other now what is happening but is the superintendent reading all of this we need to call off the wall and request a emergency board meeting an take off of work or what ever we need to do. But it is going to take a lot more than just a few parents to do this. lets continue to let the so called higher ups know that they cant keep doing what they are doing. They talk about bullies in school and it won’t be tolerated but who is doing the bullying WE WONT STAND FOR IT come on every one lets do something
March 24, 2007 2:06 PM
gene said...
Hello Bloggers,
Some very informative stuff here. Things I did not even consider. We all agree to go Back to The Pit. It really concerns me what blatant disregard they have for everyone. That is not the Sue Cleveland I know. Someone with some real juice is misleading her. What is that actual breakdown culturally of this graduating class? How is it that they have no concern with the adversity they have caused to so many? Surely, the school has had diversity and sensitivity training? Don’t give up, as someone already wrote, keep this going. Because their decision is way out of line. Bad, Bad, Bad! Sad to say politics, power and money are involved, no one can be that stupid. Can they?
Where is Bill Richardson?
Not that he is my choice for anything,
But he sure can mediate.
Gene
March 24, 2007 5:55 PM
rod said...
We want our family and loved ones to see my daughter graduate and 6 tickets won’t be enough.
Rio Rancho schools needs to re-think their decision!
Return to the PIT!
Or allow parents and seniors to vote.
Rodney
March 24, 2007 6:55 PM
denny said...
THANKS FOR THE BLOG SPOT.THIS IS A GIGANTIC MISTAKE AFFECTING OUR CHILDREN OUR FAMILIES OUR FRIENDS
Denny
March 24, 2007 8:30 PM
It’s just ridiculous. said...
Why would they (whoever they are) change the plans without the students/parents opinion?
It is all about the seniors, or else they wouldn’t be holding a graduation ceremony.
And to only be able to invite 6 people to graduation??
What if there are families with more than six people?
Wow how nice of you guys to not allow someone’s entire family to attend.
Good job.
No wonder no body likes Rio Rancho, its ran by a bunch of idiots.
The school doesn’t even let students know what’s going on, seems like they have no idea what they are doing.
Everybody is angry, because of the fact that they changed it after everybody out of state has made plans, and now a majority of them wont even be able to attend because the graduates can only invite 6 people.
It’s just ridiculous.
And why did I pay 100 and somewhat dollars for invitations for graduation when I can't even send them out, because you can't use them to get in the graduation?
RR school board sucks.
March 24, 2007 8:38 PM
“BACK TO THE PIT” said...
Tear up the contract!
“BACK TO THE PIT”
Dr. Cleveland we want this graduation at THE PIT, thank you.
Nick
March 24, 2007 8:45 PM
Tony said...
To whom it may concern,
I didn’t appreciate Gary Herron’s remarks on the Observer article
about the High School graduation being relocated.
"Come on, parents of graduating seniors of 2007. Get used to the
idea that the ceremony is going to be held at the Santa Ana Star”.
The idea is being shoved down our throats even by the Observer’s editor. The school board shouldn’t have changed the location two months prior to graduation and after we all had ordered our graduation invitations. All our graduation invitations state the graduation is being held at the University Arena “The Pit”. Is the school board going to reimburse us for all the invitations we couldn’t use? The simple solution to this mess the school board created is just hold the graduation at the Pit like we were told in the first place and let the graduates of next year hold theirs Santa Ana Star Center. Now the school board wants to televise the graduation one Cable One Network … A lot of parents including myself have Dish Network which will not broadcast the graduation. I have never heard people being limited access to a high school graduation …. Only in Rio Rancho .. The City of Vision … Tony Maez
March 24, 2007 9:41 PM
RE: The Observer newspaper said...
RE: The Observer newspaper
Check this out,
according to the Santa Ana Website, the OBSERVER are "Corporate Partners", with BOTH the casino and the center, have you noticed they have yet to do an actual news report on a Parent that is upset with the graduation, Both the Journal and Tribune interviewed Parents, right, then how come our own newspaper has not interviewed anyone?
List of "Corporate Partners" of The Santa Ana Star Center:
SANTA ANA STAR CASINO
THE RIO RANCHO OBSERVER
99.3 KOB FM
770 KKOB
Mew Mexico's CW
Perfection Honda
JohnnyBoards LLC
First Community Bank
Qwest
Crystal Springs
O'Hare's Grille & Pub / Hot Tamales
Rio Rancho Printing
AND
Does anyone know if the people who made the decision to move the graduation to the Santa Ana Star Center have a financial interest in the Star Center or the casino or in any of the Center's corporate partners? Wouldn't that constitute a conflict of interest?
March 24, 2007 9:48 PM
my comment said...
Ok I support going to the Pit
Wanda
March 24, 2007 10:06 PM
H said...
I am a senior at Rio Rancho high school, I would like to have the graduation moved back to University Arena, The Pit.
Take our graduation back to the PIT
H
March 24, 2007 10:09 PM
Anonymous said...
I'm not going to any gambling dens and neither is anyone else in my family. As far as I'm concerned, they can mail my son's diploma to him.
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March 24, 2007 10:23 PM
retired reporter said...
I'm not sure the district or anyone is going to take us seriously: how do you figure that the decision about graduation is an item for the governor to mediate? We might have a prayer if our issue affected the entire state. It doesn't, it is a local issue. This decision may be unpopular, but it is nowhere near a violation of our democratic privilege. And, appealing to media entities ensures that we'll get plenty of attention, but it won't solve anything: remember that their business is to sell newspapers and air time. We're boosting their sales, and their ratings, and that's about all. This isn't helping!
March 24, 2007 10:24 PM
echarles1234@aol.com said...
If you are against the move to return to THE PIT, email echarles1234@aol.com with your comments.
Thank you
March 24, 2007 10:25 PM
Matches Malone said...
And echarles1234@aol.com will be doing what to see that those comments actually see the light of day?
March 24, 2007 10:27 PM
Matches Malone said...
Matches Malone
email echarles1234@aol.com
March 24, 2007 10:29 PM
Matches Malone said...
See...I thought "somebody" wanted a VOTE. As long as the only votes counted are... *hey* Wait-a-minute. You're a republican, aren't you?
March 24, 2007 10:31 PM
retired reporter said...
retired reporter
what would help?
March 24, 2007 10:31 PM
Sad said...
This really is about the students, and it's most important that they graduate, right? My grad is the first in my family to graduate, and I'll be there at the Center, or there at the Pit. I think we're pretty spoiled. Kids in some countries don't get a chance like this, much less a choice.
March 24, 2007 10:32 PM
amen said...
Sad said...
This really is about the students, and it's most important that they graduate, right? My grad is the first in my family to graduate, and I'll be there at the Center, or there at the Pit. I think we're pretty spoiled. Kids in some countries don't get a chance like this, much less a choice.
March 24, 2007 10:34 PM
retired reporter said...
Has anyone tried to write a letter or have a reasonable conversation with either the Superintendent or the Board? Or did "we" just run straight to the news hounds? I apologize that I don't know the answer, I'm just now learning of it. I don't think a petition will be useful at all.
March 24, 2007 10:35 PM
Matches Malone said...
E-mail? Nah...the choice words I've got for you will go much better in person (I can play the no transcript game, too.)
See ya' tommorrow at 1:00.
March 24, 2007 10:40 PM
retired reporter said...
Retired Reporter,
if you have the time go ahead and read some of the comments people have approached the avenues you mention what else would you suggest?
March 24, 2007 10:40 PM
Oh no you didn't said...
This isn't good: accusing the district or any media of "financial interest" will close more doors than it will open. Because these companies are represented as "corporate partners" doesn't mean they have financial interest in graduation. Retired reporter is right - this stuff isn't helpful.
March 24, 2007 10:42 PM
matches malone said...
Matches Malone
What do you mean?
E-mail? Nah...the choice words I've got for you will go much better in person (I can play the no transcript game, too.)
See ya' tommorrow at 1:00.
March 24, 2007 10:46 PM
Oh no you didn't said...
Oh no you didn't,
What do you suggest?
I just read that blog,
it reads like it is in the form of a question.
Oh no you didn't said...
This isn't good: accusing the district or any media of "financial interest" will close more doors than it will open. Because these companies are represented as "corporate partners" doesn't mean they have financial interest in graduation. Retired reporter is right - this stuff isn't helpful.
March 24, 2007 10:49 PM
both retired r & oh no you didn't said...
To both retired r & oh no you didn't,
What would you both suggest?
March 24, 2007 10:51 PM
retired reporter said...
retired reporter II,
I'm not sure where to start reading. There is enough misinformation in this blog that I'm a bit perplexed. Who has done what, and how? Do you know?
I do know that involving media entities typically creates the proverbial mountain out of a molehill, when the molehill might have been easily squashed with the right-sized shovel. I think we make an effort to solve it at the source, because involving media tends to p**s off our opponent, they stop listening and we get nowhere. At this point, they have the power: they made the decision and we are being forced to live with it. What is the incentive for them to change their minds? Because we're noisy? Too much work to listen to noise.
March 24, 2007 10:51 PM
retired reporter said...
And, "they" aren't reading the blog, too much work and they aren't invested.
March 24, 2007 10:54 PM
theorist said...
retired reporter:
You're right, they aren't reading the blog, aren't listening and don't care. Now what?
March 24, 2007 10:58 PM
both retired r & oh no you didn't said...
both retired r & oh no you didn't
please take your time and email me any of your thoughts in detail echarles1234@aol.com thank you i don't know if you both are together or not? but take your time and email me what you think i like the way you processed the molehill thinking and time investment
March 24, 2007 11:02 PM
retired, oh no, and theo u all said...
u 3 r
March 24, 2007 11:05 PM
matches malone said...
i'll see ya' all at 1
March 24, 2007 11:07 PM
nate king cole can sing said said...
go back to the pit and thats it
March 24, 2007 11:10 PM
not so fast said...
I strongly suggest we just let bygones be bygones and go back to the Pit.
What you think?
March 24, 2007 11:15 PM
matches malone said...
i'll see ya' all at 1
is everyone gone already?
March 24, 2007 11:17 PM
retired reporter said...
1) I suggest that you prepare your case, and make an attempt at a calm, sincere plea. Does anyone have a relationship with the superintendent, or someone at the district or board level, or as a last resort, our local newspaper? (I once met the publisher, she seems like a reasonable person, very commmunity centric). The key here is to involve someone willing to listen, whether or not he/she is sympathetic is immaterial - you just need to get someone's ear. 2) Bring a suggested resolution forward, and be prepared to compromise. For instance, you might suggest that those grads with last names A through K hit the Center at an earlier time than those with last names L through Z. It isn't exactly the relocation we're going for, but it allows more people to attend - not all bad. For now, I'm going to kiss my grad and go to bed.
March 24, 2007 11:17 PM
thinking outside the box said...
retired reporter said...
1) I suggest that you prepare your case, and make an attempt at a calm, sincere plea. Does anyone have a relationship with the superintendent, or someone at the district or board level, or as a last resort, our local newspaper? (I once met the publisher, she seems like a reasonable person, very commmunity centric). The key here is to involve someone willing to listen, whether or not he/she is sympathetic is immaterial - you just need to get someone's ear. 2) Bring a suggested resolution forward, and be prepared to compromise. For instance, you might suggest that those grads with last names A through K hit the Center at an earlier time than those with last names L through Z. It isn't exactly the relocation we're going for, but it allows more people to attend - not all bad. For now, I'm going to kiss my grad and go to bed.
March 24, 2007 11:21 PM
matches malone said...
is everyone gone already?
March 24, 2007 11:23 PM
retired reporter said...
echarles - Thanks for asking, I saw your note after my last post. For now, this is my best suggestion, but I'm sure there are other solutions. Maybe my thoughts will spawn some others.
March 24, 2007 11:23 PM
CALL YVETTE 994-9648 today please said...
CALL YVETTE: 994-9648
EMAIL YVETTE: nanee_angel@yahoo.com
Hello everyone that would like the graduation to return to THE PIT.
We need your help Yvette has arranged for someone from the news channel to come out on Sunday the 25th to the Santa Ana Star Center at 1:00 pm to come and talk to all parents and those who would like to voice their say in this.
IT IS NOT TO LATE, DON'T GIVE UP.
Please contact Yvette at 994-9648 to help her get names and #’s to support our voices.
We need to network with everyone and present our concerns to the board and administration.
We need to show strength in numbers.
We need your help Yvette has arranged for someone from the news channel to come out on Sunday the 25th to the Santa Ana Star Center at 1:00 pm to come and talk to all parents and those who would like to voice their say in this.
PLEASE EVERYONE, PLEASE come out and help support our request to GO BACK TO THE PIT!.
Lets show the board and administration they can’t just bully us.
WE NEED TO SHOW THAT WE WANT THE PIT BACK.
Please call Yvette for more info 994-9648 thanks for all your support.
REMEMBER WE HAVE TO WORK TOGETHER.
DON'T GIVE UP THERE IS A LOT MORE FAMILIES AND PEOPLE THAT WANT IT AT THE PIT!
THE PIT WILL HOLD UP 15 TO 16,000 PEOPLE.
THAT MEANS OVER 10 TO 11,000 PEOPLE WON’T BE ABLE TO GO.
GO BACK TO THE PIT!!
Thank you,
Yvette
March 24, 2007 11:32 PM
to retired reporter said...
To Retired Reporter
email me tomorrow we can exchange more easily there thanks echarles1234@aol.com
March 24, 2007 11:38 PM
u 2 matches malone said...
echarles1234@aol.com
March 24, 2007 11:39 PM
the beatles said...
"simple words of wisdom....Let It Be....."
(at the Pit)
March 25, 2007 12:04 AM
to matches malone said...
To Matches Malone
regarding your comments please take your time and go point by point I would really like to hear all of your comments if you would like to quote the point and then respond to it that would be helpful then we can read exactly what your commenting on may I suggest you pick out 50 or more points that way we will cover a lot of ground at one time you can even be as expound on anything you like
we welcome your comments we really do
we too are looking forward to seeing you at 1
sincerely interested
echarles1234@aol.com
March 25, 2007 12:18 AM
re: gary herron said...
Please do tell, what can you tell me about him?
Ray
March 25, 2007 12:21 AM
RE: dr. sue cleveland said...
RE: Dr. Sue Cleveland
Please do tell, what can you tell me about her?
Ray
March 25, 2007 12:23 AM
RE: The Administration said...
RE: The Administration
Please do tell, what can you tell me about them?
Ray
March 25, 2007 12:24 AM
RE: School Board and President said...
RE: School Board and President
Please do tell, what can you tell me about them?
Ray
March 25, 2007 12:24 AM
PLEASE SIGN THE PETITION said...
SIGN THE PETITION
Add your name and/or comments to this thread. If you want to go BACK TO THE PIT click on "COMMENTS" below and write in the space provided. To sign up for a Google account, is completely free, or you can comment using the other options.
Contact us at cmj2nc@aol.com
March 25, 2007 12:27 AM
THE BEATLES said...
"GET BACK...GET BACK....GET BACK TO WHERE ONCE BELONG
GET BACK JO JO"
(there are talking about the PIT!
March 25, 2007 12:31 AM
please add my name said...
Please add my name to the Blog, thanks
Perry
March 25, 2007 12:35 AM
Richard White said...
I spoke in front of the school board at the March meeting outlining as many of the problems created by the decision to move the graduation to the Santa Ana Star Center that I could think of. Over the course of the week it was learned that it was not a school board idea, but an administrative decision made by the Superintendent, the Director of Activities and the Principal. We are now being told that it is a done deal because the contract is signed and the money paid. Well... to reserve the Pit, requires a contract and money paid also. They seem to have been able to get out of that one.
Isn't the Santa Ana Star Center owned by the City of Rio Rancho? The casino only paid for naming rights. The City can release the high school from the contract and return the money paid very easily.
I am really interested to know if the city government leaders put pressure on the Superintendent and Principal to move the graduation to the Center. The City government and the School board have known since the day the plans for the Center were finalized that it would not be big enough to hold graduation there, at least not while there was only one high school in Rio Rancho. It will be at least 4 years , after it opens, before Dr. Cleveland High School has a graduating class. By then it is projected that we will be right back to square one because both high schools will be vying for the title of 'Biggest High School in New Mexico' with graduating classes for each right back up to 600-700.
I am the parent of a Senior, and I am very disappointed in how this is being handled by the School board and people employed by the School district. Let's change it back to the PIT.
March 25, 2007 4:18 AM
"GET BACK" TO THE PIT said...
[sweet loretta thought she was a cleaner but she was a frying pan.]
Get back, get back.
Get back to where you once belonged
Get back, get back.
Get back to where you once belonged.
Get back Sue. go (to The Pit)
Get back, get back.
Back to where you once belonged
Get back, get back.
Back to where you once belonged.
Get back Sue.
[thanks, mo! ...on behalf of the group i hope we passed the audition.]
GEORGE
March 25, 2007 7:03 AM
RE: The Observer newspaper said...
To blog comments, I had already signed out and just read them. These are questions, if you or anyone knows I am very interested in knowing? So now what do you suggest would be helpful? I really am not interested in closing any doors. Thank you .
RE: The Observer newspaper
Check this out,
According to the Santa Ana Website, the OBSERVER are "Corporate Partners", with BOTH the casino and the center, have you noticed they have yet to do an actual news report on a Parent that is upset with the graduation, Both the Journal and Tribune interviewed Parents, right, then how come our own newspaper has not interviewed anyone?
List of "Corporate Partners" of The Santa Ana Star Center:
SANTA ANA STAR CASINO
THE RIO RANCHO OBSERVER
99.3 KOB FM
770 KKOB
Mew Mexico's CW
Perfection Honda
JohnnyBoards LLC
First Community Bank
Qwest
Crystal Springs
O'Hare's Grille & Pub / Hot Tamales
Rio Rancho Printing
AND
Does anyone know if the people who made the decision to move the graduation to the Santa Ana Star Center have a financial interest in the Star Center or the casino or in any of the Center's corporate partners? Wouldn't that constitute a conflict of interest?
March 25, 2007 7:34 AM
06 Parent knows had said...
"YES the district should have come up with a variety of options and make them available to the public, obtain feedback and base the decision on that feedback in combination with sound financial decisions (as well as access, parking, etc.). YES the timing should have been better. YES the district has not given the public a voice. YES it should probably be moved back to the PIT for this year's graduation."
March 25, 2007 7:39 AM
ME TOO said...
Hello, I am interested in knowing too?
RE: Gary Herron
RE: Dr. Sue Cleveland
RE: The Administration
RE: School Board and President
What can you tell me about all of them?
Rick
March 25, 2007 7:51 AM
go back Sue Cleveland said...
Did you know when a person is elected to our school board; they have to swear an oath?
YES, THEY LITERALLY SWEAR TO UPHOLD BOTH THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES AS WELL AS THE CONSTITUTION OF THE HIGH SCHOOL!
I THINK THAT IS REALLY GREAT!
“We the people of the United States, in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America”
A blogger commented how this whole graduation change stepped on people’s rights.
The entire history of our government was to escape bad government, bad and unfair decisions, bad practices, bad leaders.
What really bothers me is our children are involved.
The event is an important chapter in their lives.
They are seeing first hand another history lesson.
Democracy did not play a part in this poorly planned change and that is why I am joining in on this push to address the graduation.
Even if this situation affected two people it is wrong.
After reading the newspaper and reading several emails this is affecting thousands.
I completely see why it was changed and there are those that support the change.
But when you consider how this was handled then you scratch your head and wonder how well paid, educated people forgot the opening lines of THEIR Constitution, they forgot their history and at the expense of our children.
What also stands out and causes me to cringe is the very same people have charge over our children.
They will read these words and not understand what they did and what they are doing is wrong.
These same individuals will look in the mirror and say, "I'm ok".
Our children are our most precious part of our community and should not be taken for granted at any expense.
The contract is now the excuse they are so diligently clinging to and hiding behind in order to right their wrongs.
The Star Center should also know their history and let the school out of this contract.
It should have never been about the money it should have always been about the children, our children.
March 25, 2007 8:24 AM
WOW said...
There is a lot of wine, worry and song here.
Keep up the good work!
We support the petition
Shawn
March 25, 2007 8:31 AM
Takin it to the streets said...
You dont know me but Im your brother
I was raised here in this living hell
You dont know my kind in your world
Fairly soon the time will tell
You, telling me the things youre gonna do for me
I aint blind and I dont like what I think I see
Takin it to THE PIT
Takin it to THE PIT
Takin it to THE PIT
Takin it to THE PIT
Take this message to my brother
You will find him everywhere
Wherever people live together
Tired of being treated unfair
You, telling me the things youre gonna do for me
I aint blind and I dont like what I think I see
Takin it to THE PIT
Takin it to THE PIT
Takin it to THE PIT
Takin it to THE PIT
March 25, 2007 8:40 AM
TODAY CALL YVETTE 994-9648 today said...
CALL YVETTE: 994-9648
EMAIL YVETTE: nanee_angel@yahoo.com
Hello everyone that would like the graduation to return to THE PIT.
We need your help Yvette has arranged for someone from the news channel to come out on Sunday the 25th to the Santa Ana Star Center at 1:00 pm to come and talk to all parents and those who would like to voice their say in this.
IT IS NOT TO LATE, DON'T GIVE UP.
Please contact Yvette at 994-9648 to help her get names and #’s to support our voices.
We need to network with everyone and present our concerns to the board and administration.
We need to show strength in numbers.
We need your help Yvette has arranged for someone from the news channel to come out on Sunday the 25th to the Santa Ana Star Center at 1:00 pm to come and talk to all parents and those who would like to voice their say in this.
PLEASE EVERYONE, PLEASE come out and help support our request to GO BACK TO THE PIT!.
Lets show the board and administration they can’t just bully us.
WE NEED TO SHOW THAT WE WANT THE PIT BACK.
Please call Yvette for more info 994-9648 thanks for all your support.
REMEMBER WE HAVE TO WORK TOGETHER.
DON'T GIVE UP THERE IS A LOT MORE FAMILIES AND PEOPLE THAT WANT IT AT THE PIT!
THE PIT WILL HOLD UP 15 TO 16,000 PEOPLE.
THAT MEANS OVER 10 TO 11,000 PEOPLE WON’T BE ABLE TO GO.
GO BACK TO THE PIT!!
Thank you,
Yvette
March 25, 2007 8:43 AM
no contract said...
I'm not sure there ever was a reservation or contract at the Pit. At this time last year, parents were complaining that the Center was built with no consideration for graduation, i.e., it wasn't big enough. If there was no contract, there was nothing to get out of - you might check into it. Really, if you're going to accuse the Superintendent or the Administration, you'll have better luck if your information is factual - be sure. They won't listen or react to suspicion, it means nothing.
March 25, 2007 8:43 AM
tell me more said...
“parents were complaining that the Center was built with no consideration for graduation, i.e., it wasn't big enough”
March 25, 2007 8:49 AM
Rosalia said...
I have a question for those who are against this petition:
How is a decision to return the graduation to The Pit adversely affecting you?
March 25, 2007 8:49 AM
matches malone said...
i'll see ya' all at 1
March 25, 2007 8:51 AM
Rosalia, again said...
...continued
Sorry, I realize this forum is reserved for people who are in favor of moving the graduation back to The Pit. But I can't, for the life of me, figure out why it would cause undo stress to anyone if the graduation were held at The Pit, where it has been held for several years now.
March 25, 2007 8:54 AM
retired reporter said...
Since the City owns the Center, it has a reason to keep graduation here. So, how does it benefit the governing body to put pressure on the Superintendent or the Administration? It doesn't. It isn't in their best interest. If you want anyone to listen to you, you need to present some benefit in moving graduation back to the Pit. Think: how does moving back to the Pit benefit benefit the Administration, the Governing Body, or anyone outside this group of families? If you can answer this question, you have something to talk to the administration about. Until then, you're just making noise, and noise is meaningless. If the answer is, "We'll stop making noise and go away", they think "So what?" They aren't listening to you anyway. I don't know the answer, but I think you need to find it if you want to be successful in your quest.
March 25, 2007 8:55 AM
ooker said...
This kinda’ reminds of a poker game I was in,
And the “deck was stacked” this is worse they’re holding all the cards and never dealt them out
March 25, 2007 9:01 AM
retired reporter said...
Tell me more: I'm paraphrasing, but I remember "Rants" in the Observer newspaper from parents with words to this effect, i.e., "what were they thinking" in building a Center not large enough to accommodate graduates. I suspect that the Administration may be thinking they were doing the "right" thing. I need to do a bit more research on the archived specifics, my retention isn't what it once was.
So, my thought is that a calm, rational direct approach may go a bit further than a noisy one. It does appear that this case has been presented (see Mr. White's blog). If the Administration didn't respond in the manner you hoped, chances are that they won't, but it seems working WITH them to attempt a solution might be more productive.
If the issue is that everyone wants to attend but there isn't enough space, then perhaps you might suggest that the space be used so that everyone can attend. If a solution exists that works, then a move "back" to the Pit wouldn't be necessary. Take a page from the Center: if a concert sells out for one night, they add an extra night to accommodate more attendees.
And, to answer how the decision impacts me, I'm not sure I'm necessarily for or against the move. I do know that it impacts all of us in different ways and for many reasons, and I may be a bit too focused on the bigger pictur: keeping our gross receipts tax monies here instead of sending it to ABQ helps our city government to pay for things we all want: sidewalks, parks, improvements, street lights, paved streets, etc. I realize this doesn't make us feel better about the short-term, but it does help us all in the long-term - we don't want to pay higher property taxes for such things, right? If we keep our gross receipts money here, we help to defray some of these costs.
Okay, enough space devoted to my rambling.
March 25, 2007 9:22 AM
History Lesson said...
Some of the questions being raised here are too far out in left field (conspiracy theories, etc.) to even begin to answer. There are, however, a couple of them that I actually do know the answer to.
1st - RRPS did not have to break a contract with the pit. After last year's fiasco, it was never reserved or contracted for. The complaints and nasty letters from parents were more than loud enough to make this seem like a minor dust-up.
2nd - No...the city did not put pressure on the district to have the graduation ceremony here in Rio Rancho. It was parents. The district received complaints from parents about the pit every year the graduation was held there. Those complaints reached a crescendo last year.
While the comments here all seem to be accusing the school system of not listening to parents' concerns, we are actually all in this boat precisely because the district DID listen to and respond to parents.
March 25, 2007 9:22 AM
UNM Pit. said...
I agree with the petition and would like to vote to go back to the UNM Pit.
Jeannie
March 25, 2007 9:56 AM
Oh brother said...
So the administration moved the graduation because they are afraid of being booed? Well, that just ices the cake.
I don't need my Magic 8-ball to tell me that they will be booed at this year's graduation.
Dear Mr. VonAncken,
If that many people are booing you, maybe you should look in the mirror.
love,
a concerned party
March 25, 2007 10:09 AM
History Lesson said...
HELLO,
Thanks, what else could you let us know about this?
March 25, 2007 10:43 AM
yaragon said...
this is Yvette again and I want to thank all the parents,graduates and comunity that showed up to the news conferance at the santa ana areana which was held today at 1 with action 7 news we had a pretty good outcome about 26 total came out the news talked to some of us and we were able to let them know what we thought about this very poor decision that was made to move graduation to the sana ana I dont know if anyone had a chace to read the rio rancho observer and the tribune but these articles are stating that we get riled up for nothing and what are we teaching our children to be against the board if you get a chance get these papers and read then call those papers and see if they will write your comment about what they put about what we are doing what they are failing to do is realize the importance of why we are doing this because we have taught our children values and they do have the right to speak and have their voice heard I will update other information as we get it we have started a petition and if you would like to sign it please call me and I will met you to get it signed my number again is 994-9648 any other ideas let me know for we need to let them know that we are not making noise this is a very important issue to our graduates as well as all their support
March 25, 2007 2:00 PM
toby said...
I am adding to this blog to support the return to the Pit. I agree with the points of view listed here. Especially that this decision was unfair.
Thank you.
March 25, 2007 3:23 PM
Gary, please pass the popcorn said...
I read some of the comments here and will read all of them as I get the time to do so. I also read some of today’s news comments.
Gary, Mike and Genie and anonymous persons that all spoke their minds, I’d like to thank you.
There are some of us that would like to respectfully ask the administration to reconsider and some of us that are more vocal and some of us that have our “facts” wrong, and some of us that are like some of you, anonymous.
Be advised, ALL of us are very aware now of where you stand and I for one appreciate that you pointed out any misinformation.
However, one thing you ALL fail to do is address each concern on it’s own merit and then as a whole.
You target only certain ones, why is that?
Hear me out, we’ve heard your logic and the administration’s logic, somehow “we didn’t get a vote. Let’s not worry about it” does not, well, make sense!
That is a very critical part of this decision.
Perhaps an important question to each of you is should this matter have gone to some form of input/poll/vote? I’d like to know your answer.
And I’d like to know the answer from the seniors, parents and guardians that this affected.
Gary, regarding your comment about a vote, I’m sure we could come up with something.
“Let me play devil’s advocate” too, all anyone would ask is that it is fair process.
Hear me out; have a vote of some sort, just to make sure we ALL got this decision right.
You all really wrote some things that were fine and I concur with.
But you also wrote some things that made me realize you don’t get the big picture nor the little one either.
Please accept my apologies if we agree to disagree but that is how you see it and that is how I see it.
I’m not in your shoes and you are not in mine.
Gary, you actually wrote 10 year olds and under “should have stayed home”?
I don’t want to have my figures wrong or did you mean, 9 year olds and under “should have stayed home”?
I hope your foot is not that big?
I hope your quote gets passed around to every mother and father across this country.
May I respectfully ask you, who are you to discriminate against age?
(Perhaps I should count my blessing you don’t have S. Cleveland, R. Von Ancken and B. Duncan’s position)
I wonder now Gary, were you part of the think tank to get the decision through? Just asking.
“For weeks”, you ask, it has gone on “for weeks” because this decision adversely affects people.
It will continue to go on for weeks, “Batch up some popcorn” and save some room on the “couch” for Mike, Genie and "your extended posse".
“Gripes, whining, greedy”, please, “Get Over It”
Lucy
March 25, 2007 5:13 PM
Bravo said...
I agree with the petition.
Especially that this decision was unfair.
Thank you. Fran
March 25, 2007 5:33 PM
before any contracts said...
Note:
RRPS received my comment at the very beginning when this all started - and before any contracts were signed!
The decision to move the 2007 graduation was handled improperly and was the wrong decision. Parents should have been surveyed prior to the decision. Please let me know who was responsible for this decision. The current class sizes are too large to try to graduate anywhere smaller than the Pit. My wife and I have 5 children, one of which graduates this year. My parents, who have already bought airline tickets from Ohio, my wife's parent's and a couple sisters plan to attend just like the past two years. Who do I get to leave home with my allotment of six tickets? I know there will be many other people in the same situation. Do you really expect people to return their six tickets? The only chance I have of letting my family share the occasion is to find some friend who isn't using all of their tickets. I highly recommend you reconsider the decision and keep the Pit location while you still can.
March 25, 2007 5:35 PM
yaragon said...
Attention: Seniors, Parents, Guardians, Families, Relatives, Students and concerned persons
We are a group of families that would like to have the Class of 2007 Graduation returned to "The PIT."
At minimum, let’s put this matter to a fair vote.
We are respectfully asking Dr. Sue Cleveland to make the decision to return to "The PIT."
RRPS has broken contracts before and can break this contract now and go "BACK TO THE PIT."
We need all persons that want the Graduation to be returned to "The PIT" to let your voice be heard.
In an unprecedented administrative decision, input was NOT allowed, requested or regarded by everyone affected. Only certain voices were heard.
This last minute decision affected more than 10,000 people.
We have heard all the reasons and explanations given by the administration and strongly feel they do not outweigh the fact that a fair process did not occur in the first place concerning this matter.
Please go online now. We have every right to be heard. "It’s not over till it’s over." BACK TO the Pit
FAMILY AND friends of Rio Rancho High School graduates DISCUSSION GROUP
March 25, 2007 5:36 PM
TO: History Lesson said...
HELLO HS,
I checked back in to see if you responded.
Thanks, what else could you let us know about this?
March 25, 2007 5:38 PM
Monte said...
This is not right.
Count us in.
March 25, 2007 5:42 PM
graduate of 2007 said...
so who gives them the right to say were we are going to graduate? we are graduating now not them they had there chance to graduate already. my mom has really supported me in trying to change it to the pit and i am really thank full to her for that, what we seniors really need to do is get together and show them that we do have a say in what we want for graduation why do they get one and we dont? is it cause they are part of the school board it still doesnt give them the right to do that. if they dont change it they are going to have an even bigger problem with the families that dont get in. the traffic is going to be really bad and if you think about it they dont have enough parking for everyone because every or almost every senior has a car and will be driving to graduation. you know they arent gonna let us park in front of the arena you know they will probably be saving that for the staff. i dont think that is fair either why do they get reserved parkin we are the graduates not them we should be able to park closer to the enterance at the arena. we need all the support we can get to get it changed back to the pit. OUR OPINIONS DO MATTER AND WE WANT THE PIT. MAY 19TH SHOULDNT BE A DAY OF DISAPPOINTMENT FOR US GRADUATES IT SHOULD BE A TIME TO CELEBRATE.
March 25, 2007 6:19 PM
Anonymous said...
Uncle a said
Going back to the Pit is a great idea. For many students this is there only claim to fame. Relatives would like to attend the ceremony and the Pit can hold more people who obviously would like to attend. Having a graduation with limited seating is archaic and so bourgeois. Step up to the plate and give family a chance to celebate this momentous occasion. Many have to travel great distances. Do you remember how they treated Mary and Joseph, there was no room at the inn. Don't do the same to the greates class of Rio Rancho's history, the class of 2007.
March 25, 2007 6:19 PM
common sense said...
This e-mail is regarding the Common Sense article written in the Rio Rancho Journal.
Being a student at Rio Rancho High School and waking up to read this article from you both, Mike and Genie Ryan, made me think of what common sense you both must have in writing this article.
Whether or not you grew up in big families that fully supported you through your life, you clearly don’t understand the gripe those of us with big families are having because of the ticket limit.
I do think it is a great idea to hold graduation in my wonderful hometown, but it’s a shame that all of the people I want there may not get to go.
Is it really my fault that I have a large immediate family?
Should I as a senior really have to pick which family members should go with the extra tickets I have dug up by myself.
Also, uniforms were voted on when I was in fifth grade and we were just supposed to be “trying them out;” so maybe that was the outrage over that.
Are you saying people can’t speak up if they don’t agree with the way you think?
Because that is how it sounds.
Also, regarding parents voicing opinions on test scores, drop out rates, and curriculum; this point in your article has nothing to do with the students that are graduating and shouldn’t even be mentioned because those parents that are outraged have kids that obviously didn’t drop out and had good test scores.
Personally I believe Rio Rancho’s curriculum is great.
Furthermore, your other huge point that has nothing to do with the GRADUATING SENIORS is parents caring about what their children are learning.
The seniors that are graduating have already learned, hence the reason for a graduation ceremony.
Your are right though that parents need to be involved and I’m glad mine are in trying to somehow make my very large, supportive family attend my graduation.
Also, don’t assume these “griping” parents don’t care about what their children are learning because you have no right to and it has nothing to do with why they are “griping” in the first place.
If you don’t see what the “big deal” is about me not having my family at my ceremony then you might as well suggest not having a ceremony at all, because you must not comprehend the point of what a graduation ceremony is.
You also state you don’t understand why parents wont let it go?
It’s because we still can’t have all of our family attend, DUH!
You’re right about making graduation special for the graduates, but what you don’t understand is part of making it special is having my whole family there which is why we’re still “griping”.
I hope you understand the hypocrisy of your article.
I do hope my parents take your advice and become involved and make my graduation even more special; and that is by continuing to challenge the change of venues.
Also you say this will be the first graduation in Rio Rancho, then you go to say Independence is.
I’m truly sorry of the hypocrisy and confusion of your article, the lack of common sense two human beings have in putting together this article, the Journals decision to hire two people who clearly state they just don’t understand what they are writing about; as you clearly mention in your article several times.
Sincerely I hope you’ll get some common sense, be able to understand your topic and just not worry about the vehemence, the passion of Rio Rancho’s families over this very important topic, better yet “Get Over It”.
2007 Senior
March 25, 2007 7:17 PM
Gary's World said...
Gary Herron is completely out of line with his philosophy regarding who can and who can’t attend graduations.
Please make sure you send this out to everyone in your email address book, every Blog space, every "my space" location, hey, even share it with strangers you pass on the street.
I just read this in the newspaper and then a comment about it here on the Blog.
I don’t want to say anything mean spirited here but this needs to be passed on.
Also, run down the article in the Observer’s 3/25/07 Sunday issue and read all of it.
Part of BLOG COMMENT:
Gary, you actually wrote 10 year olds and under “should have stayed home”?
I don’t want to have my figures wrong or did you mean, 9 year olds and under “should have stayed home”?
I hope your foot is not that big?
I hope your quote gets passed around to every mother and father across this country.
May I respectfully ask you, who are you to discriminate against age?
(Perhaps I should count my blessing you don’t have S. Cleveland, R. Von Ancken and B. Duncan’s position)
I wonder now Gary, were you part of the think tank to get the decision through? Just asking.
March 25, 2007 7:42 PM
chuck said...
Congratulations to everyone that has commented on the Web Log. It is truly empowering to see individuals and families come together like this. We would like to go back to the Pit.
Chuck
March 25, 2007 8:26 PM
Jesus H. Christ said...
Still hoping to get tickets for 12 of my closest friends and advisors. I think Mom and Dad are more than willing to sacrifice their seats, but Lazarus is my wing man, and I cannot leave him to the elements.
Remember, when I said what you do unto the least of these, you do unto Me? And remember when I said suffer the little children to come unto Me? I was talking to you, Gary.
Don't make Me come down there!
March 25, 2007 8:51 PM
R U smarter than a 5th grader? said...
Every 5th grader knows that it's rude to invite some of your family, and leave some of your family out.
It's all well and good to say, "Don't invite your whole family." But what if they all send you $20 on your birthday? And, duh! they are going to know which ones you chose to save tickets for.
Who needs that kind of grief?
March 25, 2007 9:18 PM
yaragon said...
This is Yvette again and I want to thank all the parents, graduates, and community that showed up to the news conference at the Santa Ana Center, which was held today at 1 with Action 7 News.
We had a pretty good outcome--about 26 total came out. The news talked to some of us and we were able to let them know what we thought about this very poor decision that was made to move graduation to the Santa Ana Center.
I don’t know if anyone had a chance to read the Rio Rancho Observer and the Journal/Rio Rancho section, but these articles are stating that we “get riled up for nothing” and “why are we teaching our children to be against the board?”
If you get a chance, get these papers and read them. Then call those papers and see if they will write your comment about what they put about what we are doing. What they are failing to do is realize the importance of why we are doing this. We have taught our children values and they DO have the right to speak and have their voices heard.
I will update other information as we get it.
We have started a petition and if you would like to sign it, please call me and I will meet you to get it signed. My number again is 994-9648. Any other ideas? Let me know, because we need to let them know that WE ARE NOT JUST MAKING NOISE. This is a very important issue to our graduates as well as all of us involved, we are their support.
March 25, 2007 9:19 PM
R U smarter than a 5th grader? said...
I'm just saying, if you are smarter than a 5th grader, like me, you will sign this petition to GO BACK TO THE PIT!!!
March 25, 2007 9:22 PM
Way to go common sense: said...
Way to go common sense:
I think you should try out for Mike and Genie Ryan's job.
I realize the got u by 55 years in age, but the Journal needs new blood anywho.
They obviously don't know what they are writing about.
Wonder if they graduated?
fellow Senior 2007
March 25, 2007 9:23 PM
r u smarter then a 5TH grader? said...
Gary Herron
Dr. Sue Cleveland
The Administration
School Board and President
March 25, 2007 9:25 PM
the gambler said...
This kinda’ reminds of a poker game I was in,
And the “deck was stacked”
this is worse
they’re holding all the cards
and never dealt them out
March 25, 2007 9:30 PM
Matches Malone said...
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March 25, 2007 10:13 PM
To Matches Malone said...
To Matches Malone
regarding your comments please take your time and go point by point I would really like to hear all of your comments if you would like to quote the point and then respond to it that would be helpful then we can read exactly what your commenting on may I suggest you pick out 50 or more points that way we will cover a lot of ground at one time you can even be as expound on anything you like
we welcome your comments we really do
we too are looking forward to seeing you at 1
sincerely interested
echarles1234@aol.com
March 25, 2007 10:14 PM
"greedy" Seniors said...
Being a senior is very stressful because of everything we have to get done through the year and down the stretch and for me the graduation change makes my senior year a MILLION TIMES more stressful.
Now I don’t get to have ALL of my loved ones see me graduate. Thanks for ruining one of the most important events of my life.
I am sorry we are a very close family.
I was really looking forward to graduation when I saw my cousins (with our ENTIRE family) graduate last year at the PIT from West Mesa and Eldorado, but now I'm not because not even half of them will be there.
What a great way to show your appreciation to one of the largest graduating classes.
The newspaper read, that I was being "greedy"?
Maybe the Star center should let us out of the contract.
Who now is being greedy?
March 25, 2007 10:22 PM
Doreen said...
Families and graduates have been discriminated against,
(along with anyone under the age of 10 years old per Gary Herron)
Not everyone was allowed to have a voice in this decision.
Only those visionaries that always wanted it here in RR.
Only those that "griped, whined and were "greedy" the very loudest.
This deal was highly one sided.
Go back to the Pit.
Doreen
March 25, 2007 10:34 PM
gary herron said...
Per your article you referred to yourself as the "devil's advocate", re: the vote. This idea was submitted along time ago and can be fine tuned Gary, what do you think?
"An editor and the administration all referred to the “many” that wanted this, what is the problem with putting this to a vote, right now?
You will all find out the actual “many” want this event at “The Pit”.
Our Seniors will have to revert back to their grade school days, you print up what 750 notes home with 2 boxes to check on the note - “The Pit” or no “Pit”, parents and guardians along with each Senior will vote.
Unlike the decree that has been imposed upon everyone, where only a certain “many” voices were heard and acted on, simply, that decision that act in itself is so wrong and so very unfair, this is America right? (The school board is supposed to uphold the Constitution of the United States, just ask them).
Make sure you number each one of these notes that way they can be counted fairly.
Add a few lines so the Graduate and their Parent/Guardian can print and sign.
If you have a better idea, wonderful as long as the vote process is fair.
If the vote comes back no “Pit”, then the editor, the administration and the so called “many” had a finger on the pulse and IF the vote comes back “The Pit” then Hallelujah! Times a wastin’!"
March 26, 2007 8:12 AM
Gary, please pass the popcorn said...
I read some of the comments here and will read all of them as I get the time to do so. I also read some of today’s news comments.
Gary, Mike and Genie and anonymous persons that all spoke their minds, I’d like to thank you.
There are some of us that would like to respectfully ask the administration to reconsider and some of us that are more vocal and some of us that have our “facts” wrong, and some of us that are like some of you, anonymous.
Be advised, ALL of us are very aware now of where you stand and I for one appreciate that you pointed out any misinformation.
However, one thing you ALL fail to do is address each concern on it’s own merit and then as a whole.
You target only certain ones, why is that?
Hear me out, we’ve heard your logic and the administration’s logic, somehow “we didn’t get a vote. Let’s not worry about it” does not, well, make sense!
That is a very critical part of this decision.
Perhaps an important question to each of you is should this matter have gone to some form of input/poll/vote? I’d like to know your answer.
And I’d like to know the answer from the seniors, parents and guardians that this affected.
Gary, Mike and Genie and anonymous:
Regarding your comment about a vote, I’m sure we could come up with something.
“Let me play devil’s advocate” too, all anyone would ask is that it is fair process.
Hear me out; have a vote of some sort, just to make sure we ALL got this decision right.
You all really wrote some things that were fine and I concur with.
But you also wrote some things that made me realize you don’t get the big picture nor the little one either.
Please accept my apologies if we agree to disagree but that is how you see it and that is how I see it.
I’m not in your shoes and you are not in mine.
Gary, you actually wrote 10 year olds and under “should have stayed home”?
I don’t want to have my figures wrong or did you mean, 9 year olds and under “should have stayed home”?
I hope your foot is not that big?
I hope your quote gets passed around to every mother and father across this country.
May I respectfully ask you, who are you to discriminate against age?
Who are you to tell ANYONE who goes and who stays?
(Perhaps I should count my blessing you don’t have S. Cleveland, R. Von Ancken and B. Duncan’s position)
I wonder now Gary, were you part of the think tank to get the decision through that changed this from The Pit? Just asking.
“For weeks”, you ask, it has gone on “for weeks” because this decision adversely affects people.
It will continue to go on for weeks, “Batch up some popcorn” and save some room on the “couch” for Mike, Genie and "your extended posse".
“Gripes, whining, greedy”, please, “Get Over It”
Lucy
March 26, 2007 8:26 AM
Gary's World said...
Gary Herron is completely out of line with his philosophy regarding who can and who can’t attend graduations.
Please make sure you send this out to everyone in your email address book, every Blog space, every "my space" location, hey, even share it with strangers you pass on the street.
I just read this in the newspaper and then a comment about it here on the Blog.
I don’t want to say anything mean spirited here but this needs to be passed on.
Also, run down the article in the Observer’s 3/25/07 Sunday issue and read all of it.
Part of BLOG COMMENT:
Gary, you actually wrote 10 year olds and under “should have stayed home”?
I don’t want to have my figures wrong or did you mean, 9 year olds and under “should have stayed home”?
I hope your foot is not that big?
I hope your quote gets passed around to every mother and father across this country.
May I respectfully ask you, who are you to discriminate against age?
Who are you to tell ANYONE who goes and who stays?
(Perhaps I should count my blessing you don’t have S. Cleveland, R. Von Ancken and B. Duncan’s position)
I wonder now Gary, were you part of the think tank to get the decision through that changed this from The Pit? Just asking.
March 26, 2007 8:31 AM
G. Herron said...
"stupid is as stupid does"
F. Gump
March 26, 2007 8:33 AM
Senior said...
I like that the venue is closer to home, but I would rather have my entire family and grandparents and relatives see my special day.
They are the people that helped me get there!
It’s despicable that the administration did this at the last minute and without anyone’s consent.
March 26, 2007 8:37 AM
RRPS said...
You don't want a vote because:
"YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH"!!!!!!!!!
Jack
March 26, 2007 8:41 AM
Gary Herron, Mike & Genie Ryan & anon said...
Gary Herron, Mike and Genie Ryan and anonymous declared in the newspaper that:
The Graduating Class of 2007 and their families - “Gripe, whine, and are greedy”
Last I checked this is America, obviously something is wrong in the city of vision if just one or two or 70000 people for that matter want to raise their concerns.
No matter how trivial you think it is.
You are doing your best to condemn, censor, insult and discriminate anyone that does not think like you!
I have a brother fighting for our country right now, serving proudly. He helped secure elections so people could vote and helped remove a person in power that punished ANYONE that did not think like him!
You are so worried who did or did not have their facts right, you don’t even understand why we are asking for this matter to be properly addressed. We know the reasons and we want this addressed.
NEWS FLASH: This matter was NEVER voted on and people have every right to question, challenge and complain about anything they don’t agree with!
I am only eighteen years old but I can see as clear as day just from the tone of your stories and rhetoric you have no compassion for persons that don’t think like you:
You went on to belittle a person not quite as knowledgeable as you regarding the district process.
You went on to dictate who could or could not attend a graduation based on age.
You went on to dismiss there was no vote allowed just like the tyrant we just removed felt about the importance of elections in his country.
You went on to condemn anyone that dare have a large family or in need of extra tickets.
You went on to let us know how annoyed you were because this has “continued for weeks” but for the life of you, could not understand why it has? You confirmed how much out of the loop you are because you actually had to ask why it is “so important that the gripes (not concerns you wrote ‘gripes’) have continued”? Just by the fact this has continued should raise a red flag with you that something is wrong. Why don’t you get all the facts, the real facts then you will have the answer.
You gloated you would only have 4 in your group at the graduation and you SPECIFICALLY referenced our “posse”.
Spell this anonymous, “r-a-c-i-s-m”
pos·se (pŏs'ē) n.
1. A group of people summoned by a sheriff to aid in law enforcement.
2. A search party.
3. Slang A gang involved in crimes such as running guns and illegal narcotics trafficking.
4. Slang A Street and hip hop music term for gang members.
You sure as heck were not referring to 1 and 2 or “the get-along gang”.
Where you too afraid to use the word(s) you really wanted to use?
You completely insulted grandparents, brothers, sisters, loved ones, anyone that had to travel and relegated them to a couch with popcorn and soda.
You mocked us with “ticket scalpers”, “Psst, buddy, who needs 4 tickets”
You automatically lumped all of us into a group that fails to vote or support our schools or only when it suits us. Wouldn’t that be “pre-judging” us?
You wrote that we “gripe, get over it”
You wrote that we “whined”
You wrote that we are “greedy”
You wrote the we “shocked and embarrassed you”
Then in your supreme all knowing wisdom you topped it off with a large quote telling all parents how to raise their children!
Is it possible that it is you that is “greedy”, it is you that are “griping”, it is you that “whine”, it is you that are prejudice, and that this is really all about YOU?
I have learned more about our school, our leaders, people, right and wrong, the news media, prejudice, my family and life just in the last two weeks compared to all my years in high school.
2007 Senior
March 26, 2007 11:50 AM
Dr., answer our questions said...
“What we have here is failure to communicate”
This is what I would like to see, Dr. Cleveland respond to each of these comments. We would need someone to combine each concern and question because some of them overlap one another. Then however many there is let her respond. How come she has not given an in-depth interview? I believe she knows this is wrong, I’ve always heard she is a good person. Then how come she is not letting any parents talk to her? They are using buffers with VonAncken, Duncan, and Vesely. The newspaper rarely has her comments it is usually one of those three.
Again, have her answer the questions.
Gerry
March 26, 2007 12:41 PM
Great comment said...
Great comment
“What we have here is failure to communicate”
This has been said over and over again. I think because we are short on time we need to put this to a fair vote. No hanky panky. The school board is not going to back us, if they were they already would have. They are all stalling just by the fact they have not allowed a vote by anyone formally. They know their decision would lose in a fair vote. This has power play written all over it. Everyone is pointing fingers but they are not budging. Even the Rio Rancho media is supporting the bad decision and criticizing any little comment that is made.
Keep passing the word along The Pit is still available. All that nonsense with TV feed is garbage and it confirms they messed up. The Rio Rancho media is NOW trying to say that The Pit is only going to hold 11,000, they are still over 60% short! 60% percent is still a lot of people that can’t be there and want to be there. I also think The Pit would hold more then 11,000 people the media has their figures wrong. Also, they said there are 4 ways to get to the Star Center, please draw me a map. You have to drive through Rio Rancho to get to a 2 lane road, and when you get there it is 1 way in and 1 way out. I know, I go to the hockey games.
Abe
March 26, 2007 1:15 PM
Gary Herron, Mike & Genie Ryan & anon said...
Gary Herron, Mike and Genie Ryan and anonymous......
Whoa nelly, I just read your story and saw the pictures they have for you on file that they use for your story line.
Here you all go:
Don't Worry, Be Happy
Here is a little song I wrote
You might want to sing it note for note
Don't worry be happy
In every life we have some trouble
When you worry you make it double
Don't worry, be happy......
Ain't got no place to lay your head
Somebody came and took your bed
Don't worry, be happy
The land lord say your rent is late
He may have to litigate
Don't worry, be happy
Look at me I am happy
Don't worry, be happy
Here I give you my phone number
When you worry call me
I make you happy
Don't worry, be happy
Ain't got no cash, ain't got no style
Ain't got not girl to make you smile
But don't worry be happy
Cause when you worry
Your face will frown
And that will bring everybody down
So don't worry, be happy (now).....
There is this little song I wrote
I hope you learn it note for note
Like good little children
Don't worry, be happy
Listen to what I say
In your life expect some trouble
But when you worry
You make it double
Don't worry, be happy......
Don't worry don't do it, be happy
Put a smile on your face
Don't bring everybody down like this
Don't worry, it will soon past
Whatever it is
Don't worry, be happy.............
Bobby
March 26, 2007 3:13 PM
770 Graduates said...
KOAT-TV in their 5PM newscast on 3/26, just announced 770 seniors will graduate.
RRPS originally stated 700.
We were advised 750.
Now today they are stating 770.
We heard the year started with over 930 seniors and some thought at least 800 would be graduating.
If anyone else hears anything different please update this web log.
Rudy
March 26, 2007 4:30 PM
770 Graduates said...
Hey....
That newscast also said Sue Cleveland in a phone conversation said no to the Pit.
We need to meet with the good Doctor
Pass it on.
Jim
March 26, 2007 4:39 PM
Luis said...
I agree to return to the Pit
March 26, 2007 8:16 PM
Alley said...
We want our family to attend the graduation and 8 tickets will not be enough!
Rio Rancho admin needs to reconsider their decision!
March 26, 2007 8:56 PM
Barb said...
“BACK TO THE PIT”
RRPS we want this graduation at THE PIT, thank you.
March 26, 2007 9:01 PM
The Pit said...
For the "good of the order" we are asking that the graduation is returned to it's original location
John
March 26, 2007 9:03 PM
Patrick said...
Regarding your current strategy to increase attendance by opening the PAC at the high school and having a TV feed. Seriously, this reactive move actually confirms you are aware that you made a poor decision. What about the extended family members from out of state that have already booked plane tickets? You’re telling the parents sorry pick and choose your favorite and who cares if feelings are hurt. That is awfully callous of you! The graduation should be moved back to The Pit so every family member that want to be there can attend!
March 26, 2007 9:11 PM
Candy said...
RRPS moved the graduation.
You never asked me?
You only let certain people contact you and let you know what they wanted.
Then you did what they wanted.
And what you wanted.
But you never asked me.
Or actually anyone I know.
March 26, 2007 9:17 PM
Joseph said...
We support returning the graduation to The Pit.
March 26, 2007 9:20 PM
Koat-TV Newscast said...
KOAT-TV coverage - Rio Rancho graduation moving from its original venue at The Pit. There's a short commercial right before the main story.
FIRST STORY:
www.koat.com/video/11177714/index.html?taf=alb
SECOND STORY:
http://www.koat.com/video/11334805/index.html?taf=alb
THIRD STORY:
www.koat.com/video/11390851/index.html?taf=alb
March 26, 2007 9:41 PM
Rhonda said...
BACK TO THE PIT
March 26, 2007 9:42 PM
Yes said...
We support the return of the 2007 graduation
Reece
March 26, 2007 9:45 PM
M said...
Yes lets go back
Marcus
March 26, 2007 9:45 PM
Carol said...
We agree with the petition
Carol
March 26, 2007 9:45 PM
Nicky said...
go back to the Pit
March 26, 2007 9:47 PM
Martha said...
Next year or when you open the new school not this year
March 26, 2007 9:48 PM
Vince said...
Too bad RR, you shoulda stayed at the Pit. Break the contract
March 26, 2007 9:49 PM
Chel said...
We agree with this PETITION to return the our graduation back to the PIT.
March 26, 2007 9:52 PM
Gus said...
yes to Pit
March 26, 2007 10:43 PM
Dawn said...
OK to the petition
March 26, 2007 10:45 PM
Tess said...
vote yes to The Pit
March 26, 2007 10:45 PM
Ural said...
GO RAMS GO PIT
March 26, 2007 10:47 PM
GO RAMS said...
"RIO RANCHO BASKETBALL TEAM YOU JUST ROCKED THE “PIT”,
YOU JUST WON YOUR FIRST STATE CHAMPIONSHIP;
MR. DUNCAN ENCOURAGED YOU AND ALL STUDENTS
TO “SHOW THEM WE OWN THE ‘PIT’!!
….AND YOU DID!!
WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO NOW?
“WE’RE GOING TO DISNEY LAN….WAIT….NO…..
WE WANT TO GO BACK TO THE “PIT” FOR OUR GRADUATION, WE OWN IT NOW!!
DID YOU SEE HOW MANY FANS WE HAD THERE?!
IT WAS GREAT-GO RAMS!!!"
March 27, 2007 6:44 AM
red rabbit said...
According to KOAT, the Santa Ana Star Center is now going to make skyboxes available for graduation. How are they going to determine who gets the skyboxes? Discuss.
March 27, 2007 8:46 AM
sky box said...
That is news to me, if I hear anything I will share the info.
Tina
March 27, 2007 10:04 AM
Desi said...
WE support the petition 100%
March 27, 2007 10:09 AM
Call Yvette 994-9648 said...
We have started a Hard Copy paper PETITION and if you would like to sign it, please call me and I will meet you to get it signed.
My number again is 994-9648.
Any other ideas?
Let me know, because we need to let them know that WE ARE NOT JUST "MAKING NOISE"
WE all know this is a very important issue to our graduates as well as all of us involved.
We need to continue to show our support.
March 27, 2007 10:15 AM
Anna said...
2007 - Largest Graduating Class in the entire state and in our school’s history.
GO RAMS GO BACK TO THE PIT
March 27, 2007 12:12 PM
Rob said...
I agree:
It is not what you know it is who you know. It is not what you did RRPS it is how you did it.
We are in full support of the return to The Pit.
"Lets not let this one get by us lads or it will be hell to pay"
March 27, 2007 12:21 PM
Dr. Cleveland said...
I would like to thank all of the persons that took the time and energy to allow this Website to be available to the many that were not asked.
Dr. Cleveland, shame on you. Neither you or anyone on your staff has apologized for this decision.
Scott
March 27, 2007 1:35 PM
Dr. Sue Cleveland said...
In the winter of 99 I had a wonderful conversation with a young lady that was passionate about helping children-students-families. What was most remarkable was she was dedicated to the task.
Sadly now I see and read about that same young lady embroiled in a controversial change. So we don’t agree on where to hold graduation that I can live with. It is the HOW that is being carried out and at any cost to keep it in Rio Rancho that causes me distress.
Dr. Susan Cleveland, take a look back 7-8 years when your heart was in the right place. We all know it can be changed. They are going to get your business sometime in the future anyway.
Change this back or put it to a vote.
Sincerely,
Thomas
March 27, 2007 1:47 PM
PIT still open on 5/19 said...
Hello everyone,
I spoke to THE PIT, yes! They still have May 19TH open! They will not schedule anything on that day.
Cost for THE PIT = $7,800.00
Cost for the Center = $6,200.00
A seat at the Center costs more then a seat at THE PIT.
How about that!
M
March 27, 2007 3:45 PM
PIT still open on 5/19 said...
This GREAT news tell everyone that this is far from over.
Sid
Hello everyone,
I spoke to THE PIT, yes! They still have May 19TH open! They will not schedule anything on that day.
Cost for THE PIT = $7,800.00
Cost for the Center = $6,200.00
A seat at the Center costs more then a seat at THE PIT.
How about that!
M
March 27, 2007 3:59 PM
Dr. Sue Cleveland said...
CHANGE IT BACK TO THE PIT!
I WANT MY FAMILY TO SEE ME GRADUATE!
March 27, 2007 4:02 PM
Dr. Cleveland said...
Concerned persons,
With the confirmed information that The Pit is still open for business on May 19TH, may we encourage everyone to NOT GIVE UP.
The decision was never fair and that is why we will not give up.
Contracts can be broken.
Tremendous stress is being placed on families.
After all is said and done the new venue is NOT cost effective as they tried to purport.
The newspaper comments on Sunday (3/25) do not have all the facts and have only fueled my fire.
Share this information with everyone you know.
Thank you,
Robert
March 27, 2007 4:45 PM
Dr. Cleveland said...
I am an 18-year-old graduating Senior. I believe I understand why the administration changed our graduation.
My question to you is do you understand what you did is wrong?
J
March 27, 2007 5:28 PM
Dr. Cleveland said...
I would like to suggest when you all open the other high school then at that time you can have your graduation in Rio Rancho. It is obvious that no matter what anyone says to you still refuse to admit you are wrong. You have yet to apologies to the families you have affected. You are hiding and stalling time. RRHS will continue to have the most seniors graduating year in and year out. Who is in charge of keeping count? Please if I know that how is it the ones responsible for this somehow forgot this important information? That is why a new school is needed in the first place right? We fully support that you return the graduation to the pit. Dr. Cleveland we are not trying to be disrespectful to you. However we are very upset that you are willing to continue down this path “through Rio Rancho to a 2 lane road with only 1 way in and 1 way out”, poor parking, too small, etc.
Blake
March 27, 2007 6:53 PM
Joe said...
Keep this Petition going
March 27, 2007 6:55 PM
Megan said...
http://129.24.2.119/fbonline5/calendar.asp?filter=&month=5&day=19&year=2007&x=14&y=6
Please paste this info into your browser.
We can still return to “The Pit”.
March 27, 2007 7:04 PM
Fail to plan, plan to fail said...
What RRPS and staff did was WRONG!
No input
No vote
No say
No way
BACK TO THE PIT!
March 27, 2007 7:07 PM
Rex said...
Ditto to every COMMENT here
March 27, 2007 7:09 PM
Graduate of 2007 said...
I am a graduate of 2007. I dont think that they handled this change in a very good way. The way they changed it at the minute was so wrong. They are puttin more stress on us seniors because not only do we have to worry about our finals, thesis, and now we have to worry about who to pick from our families to attend our graduation. I think since the school board thinks for all of us they should tell each and everyone of us seniors who to pick in our family to come watch us graduate and who we should their feelings for not lettin them come watch us. We dont want to have to pick and choose who attends our graduation. We want to prove to our family that we did it and now we will be starting a new chapter in our lives. WE WANT IT AT THE PIT!!! Another thing from the paper on sunday 3/25/07 why dont they want to ask us what we think about this instead of writing stuff about us because we are expressing how we feel about the change its just wrong how our own rio rancho paper wont even try to come and ask us what we think they are suppose to be our paper but instead they are talking about us that are "griping" about the issue, its sad how albuquerque will support us and do stories for us but our own rio rancho paper wont.Shows how much rio rancho paper cares about there community, graduating seniors and there families. It makes rio rancho look really good. Thanks Everyone From Albuquerque For All Of The Support You Are Giving Us Graduating Seniors Of 2007!!!
March 27, 2007 7:11 PM
Anonymous said...
IDEA///AS CLASS OF 2007 AS A WHOLE WHY DONT WE RENT THE PIT. THERE WAS AN COMMENT TO CHARGE 1.00 PER PERSON FOR ENTRY AND ALL MONEYS GO TO THE PIT MAYBE WE CAN GET A DISCOUNT OF SOME SORT AND LETS LEAVE THE SCHOOL BOARD OUT OF THE GRADUATION. LETS SEE HOW THEY LIKE IT
March 27, 2007 7:18 PM
graduate of 2007 said...
That is a great idea but in order to do that we are going to need a lot of support. we cant just let the pit know and then on that day only a few of us show up. we have to make sure that everyone who wants it at the pit is going to show up at the pit on that day and is not going to back down.
March 27, 2007 7:31 PM
My Graduation 2007 said...
My Graduation 2007
Class Ring - $400 (In Albuquerque)
Announcements/Cap & Gown - $200 (In Albuquerque)
Invitations - $150 (In Albuquerque)
Graduation pictures - $400 (In Albuquerque)
8 family members flying in - $3,600
Graduation party - $2,000
Having my entire family who encouraged me
for 13 years celebrate with me at THE PIT – PRICELESS!!!
March 27, 2007 7:50 PM
Pay for The Pit said...
A parent suggested that we contact all the families that want it at The Pit and then tell the administration we would pay for it?
The Pit cost is $7,800
divided by
600 families
equals $13.00 each!
That is THIRTEEN dollars each!
Not much, huh?!
or 500 families
equals $15.60 each!
March 27, 2007 7:59 PM
good ideas said...
Good ideas by everyone!
Don't forget to tell everyone to contact this Blog Spot and to call Yvette - 994-9648
Gwen
March 27, 2007 8:02 PM
Don't Give UP! said...
Don't GIvE UP!
March 27, 2007 9:08 PM
GO BIG or STAY HOME said...
GO BIG or STAY HOME RRPS!
GO BACK TO THE PIT!
March 27, 2007 9:12 PM
Anonymous said...
IDEA// IF YOU TAKE 750 X 10. DEPENDING ON SIZE OF FAMILY TO ATTEND THATS NOT INCLUDING FRIENDS THAT COMES TO 7500.00 THATS PLENTY NOT TO BAD.
March 27, 2007 9:19 PM
Dr Sue Cleveland said...
I think this was already mentioned but it is very important for Dr. Cleveland to please consider this very important fact -
If they put it to a vote now right now, the Graduation would go back to “The Pit" please really think about this.
They are displacing over 10,000+ persons that would like to come!
Max
March 27, 2007 9:20 PM
770 Graduates said...
KOAT-TV in their 5PM newscast on 3/26, announced 770 seniors will graduate.
RRPS originally stated 700.
We were advised 750.
Now today they are stating 770.
We heard the year started with over 930 seniors and some thought at least 800 would be graduating.
If anyone else hears anything different please update this web log.
770x10 = $7,700.00
we can do it!!!
Rudy
March 27, 2007 9:24 PM
Dr. Sue Cleveland said...
SERIOUSLY…SIMPLY, WHAT PRICE DO YOU PLACE ON A CELEBRATION OF LOVE AND LIFE?!
THE COST THE SAVINGS THAT MRS. CLEVELAND AND MR. VONANCKEN ALLUDE TO ABSOLUTELY DO NOT OUT WEIGH WHAT WILL BE COMPLETELY LOST!
YES, EVEN TO ATTEMPT TO PLACE A PRICE ON THIS ENTIRE PROCESS, CELEBRATION AND EVENT IS INAPPROPRIATE BECAUSE IT IS TRULY “PRICELESS”!
TO ARGUE THIS IMPORTANT POINT IS IGNORANCE AND…..WELL….VERY WRONG.
Maggie
March 27, 2007 9:26 PM
Call Yvette 994-9648 said...
We have started a Hard Copy paper PETITION and if you would like to sign it, please call me and I will meet you to get it signed.
My number again is 994-9648.
Any other ideas?
Let me know, because we need to let them know that WE ARE NOT JUST "MAKING NOISE"
WE all know this is a very important issue to our graduates as well as all of us involved.
We need to continue to show our support.
March 27, 2007 9:27 PM
Anonymous said...
back to the pit back to the pit back to the pit
March 27, 2007 10:03 PM
Anonymous said...
THOMAS, YOU ARE RIGHT THE SANTA ANA STAR CENTER WILL RECIEVE THERE BUSINESS IN THE FUTURE ANYWAY. IM SORRY THE PERSON YOU NEW HAD A HEART MAYBE SOME DAY YOU WILL KNOW THAT PERSON AGAIN
March 27, 2007 10:09 PM
Anonymous said...
Families along with graduates have been discriminated against.
Not everyone was allowed to have a voice in this decision.
Dr. Cleveland has not apologized for disrupting the lives of the Class of 2007 and their loved ones.
She stated,
"We've heard more positive than negative. I do understand the concern people have about it,"
Obviously she failed to take everything into account and how this adversely impacts families.
Gary Herron a reporter for The Observer of Rio Rancho or any reporter from this newspaper has yet to interview anyone that disagrees with the decision.
He suggested in his editorial rant:
Anyone under the age of 10 should stay home and not be allowed to attend any graduation!
Not only are they discriminating against anyone with a large family they want to discriminate against your age!
Also, Herron thinks he scores points by alleging that holding an election would be too complicated and expensive. He writes: "Let me play devil's advocate here. How would you hold this election? One vote per parent of a senior? One vote per family? One vote per graduate? Only registered voters eligible? Online? Who pays for it?"
These are silly objections: A sufficient number of single-sheet paper ballots could be printed at little cost; the parents or legal guardians of graduates and the graduates themselves would be eligible to vote (easy enough to keep track of because the High School has a list of the graduates and their parents). The vote would take place at the High School on a pre-announced date. Volunteers would count the votes.
Simple as pie.
This guy is keeping the company line and wrote a lot of other horrible things.
This overall decision is highly one sided and they are forcing and expecting people to accept it because “they said so!”
Go back to the Pit.
Art
March 27, 2007 10:17 PM
Dr. Cleveland said...
OK, now that I know The Pit is still open for business I want to Go Back To The Pit
Laura
March 28, 2007 7:35 AM
Dr. Cleveland, I agree said...
“What we have here is failure to communicate”
This has been said over and over again. I think because we are short on time we need to put this to a fair vote. No hanky panky. The school board is not going to back us, if they were they already would have. They are all stalling just by the fact they have not allowed a vote by anyone formally. They know their decision would lose in a fair vote. This has power play written all over it. Everyone is pointing fingers but they are not budging. Even the Rio Rancho media is supporting the bad decision and criticizing any little comment that is made.
Keep passing the word along The Pit is still available. All that nonsense with TV feed is garbage and it confirms they messed up. The Rio Rancho media is NOW trying to say that The Pit is only going to hold 11,000, they are still over 60% short! 60% percent is still a lot of people that can’t be there and want to be there. I also think The Pit would hold more then 11,000 people the media has their figures wrong. Also, they said there are 4 ways to get to the Star Center, please draw me a map. You have to drive through Rio Rancho to get to a 2 lane road, and when you get there it is 1 way in and 1 way out. I know, I go to the hockey games.
Merle
March 28, 2007 7:38 AM
Dr. Cleveland, common sense said...
This e-mail is regarding the Common Sense article written in the Rio Rancho Journal.
Being a student at Rio Rancho High School and waking up to read this article from you both, Mike and Genie Ryan, made me think of what common sense you both must have in writing this article.
Whether or not you grew up in big families that fully supported you through your life, you clearly don’t understand the, as you put it, "gripe" those of us with big families are having because of the ticket limit.
I do think it is a great idea to hold graduation in my wonderful hometown, but it’s a shame that all of the people I want there may not get to go.
Is it really my fault that I have a large immediate family?
Should I as a senior really have to pick which family members should go with the extra tickets I have dug up by myself.
Also, uniforms were voted on when I was in fifth grade and we were just supposed to be “trying them out;” so maybe that was the outrage over that.
Are you saying people can’t speak up if they don’t agree with the way you think?
Because that is how it sounds.
Also, regarding parents voicing opinions on test scores, drop out rates, and curriculum; this point in your article has nothing to do with the students that are graduating and shouldn’t even be mentioned because those parents that are outraged have kids that obviously didn’t drop out and had good test scores.
Personally I believe Rio Rancho’s curriculum is great.
Furthermore, your other huge point that has nothing to do with the GRADUATING SENIORS is parents caring about what their children are learning.
The seniors that are graduating have already learned, hence the reason for a graduation ceremony.
Your are right though that parents need to be involved and I’m glad mine are in trying to somehow make my very large, supportive family attend my graduation.
Also, don’t assume these “griping” parents don’t care about what their children are learning because you have no right to and it has nothing to do with why they are “griping” in the first place.
If you don’t see what the “big deal” is about me not having my family at my ceremony then you might as well suggest not having a ceremony at all, because you must not comprehend the point of what a graduation ceremony is.
You also state you don’t understand why parents wont let it go?
It’s because we still can’t have all of our family attend, DUH!
You’re right about making graduation special for the graduates, but what you don’t understand is part of making it special is having my whole family there which is why we’re still “griping”.
I hope you understand the hypocrisy of your article.
I do hope my parents take your advice and become involved and make my graduation even more special; and that is by continuing to challenge the change of venues.
Also you say this will be the first graduation in Rio Rancho, then you go to say Independence is.
I’m truly sorry of the hypocrisy and confusion of your article, the lack of common sense two human beings have in putting together this article, the Journals decision to hire two people who clearly state they just don’t understand what they are writing about; as you clearly mention in your article several times.
Sincerely I hope you’ll get some common sense, be able to understand your topic and just not worry about the vehemence, the passion of Rio Rancho’s families over this very important topic, better yet “Get Over It”.
2007 Senior
March 28, 2007 7:46 AM
Dr. Cleveland said...
ditto to this HUGE SNAFU!!!
I understand the chaos of organizing a high school graduation and inevitably someone is going to be less than happy about the result. But to callously disregard the plans and wishes of multiple family members goes beyond any kind of administrative SNAFU.
Graduation ceremonies are ultimately about the achievements of the students and an opportunity for loved ones to celebrate those achievements. For Rio Rancho to dismiss the concerns and outrage of family members is to disregard the spirit of the ceremony.
Isn't obvious? Do the right thing.
March 28, 2007 7:58 AM
thanks malone said...
“Fail to Plan
Plan to Fail”
"We'll have to have cable."
"What are you doing for DISH subscribers?"
You are trying to put a band-aid on a severe wound
Thanks Malone
Aubry
March 28, 2007 8:18 AM
Doc let's PACK THE PIT! said...
Capacity of the Pit:
18,000 plus can fit.
A section is blocked off so now 12,000 can fit.
They had to open up that section for last year’s graduation for us because we had the largest Class, which meant more people.
The 2007 Class is even Bigger, which will mean more people.
The media and school started out saying that 690 Seniors would be graduating; NOW they are saying 770 Seniors are graduating.
That means their figures were off and there will be more people coming.
Do you realize the graduating Class WILL be even bigger as each year goes by?
The section can be opened up so 13,000, 15,000 or up to 18,000 people as needed.
IF YOU DON’T THINK THE NUMBERS ARE CORRECT, CALL THE PIT.
A local newspaper reporter (Gary Herron) is trying to say 11,000 would come BUT remember, he is basing it on what he thinks last years’ numbers were, but he his wrong. Then he suggests that 10 years old and under CANNOT attend the graduation! Can you believe that? He is WRONG on last years’ numbers because they had to open up the section that is closed off, so there were more then 11,000 people present, this means more will come this year along with anyone under the age of 10!
Rio Rancho year in and year out AVERAGES roughly 20 people per graduate. That is an average.
Whatever numbers you want to use the fact remains the same 11,000+ to 15,000+ people are being affected by this decision.
“Let me play the devil’s advocate”, WHAT IS WRONG WITH RIO RANCHO “PACKING THE PIT” FOR A GRADUATION?
We should be proud we did! Isn’t it true that Sue Cleveland and company, Gary Herron and Coach Brian Smith exhorted and hoped that we would “Pack The Pit” for all of basketball games?
Didn’t Mayor Jackson show his support and come out for the game; I think that is Great that he showed his support over a GAME?
QUOTING: Mayor Kevin Jackson said the development of the city's school district has given Rio Rancho a sense of identity.
"We didn't have that when I was growing up," said Jackson, who has lived in Rio Rancho since the 1960s and plans to attend tonight's championship. "There's an elevation in pride in how well the teams have done, not just in athletics, but in academic, student government and all the student-related programs."
QUOTING: "You saw the crowd tonight," Rio Rancho coach Brian Smith said after the Rams semifinal win Thursday night at The Pit. "There are 70,000 people in Rio Rancho. This place should be packed. Where is everybody?"
I think this was Great too showing support and networking with others!
QUOTING: Sarah Stevenson, a team manager, hung flyers around the sprawling Rio Rancho campus Thursday to promote the game.
"I saw a lot of people stopping to look at them and a lot of people asked me about the game," Stevenson said.
Her mother, who works at a local elementary school, told Stevenson that e-mails about Rams basketball have been flowing into her inbox. Gary did you do these interviews? No that was an Albuquerque Tribune reporter.
Consider then we want to “PACK THE PIT” for a sporting event, AND I DO TOO, why not “PACK THE PIT” for RRPS’s BIGGEST EVENT, their High School Graduation?!
I would hope our Mayor that showed that much enthusiasm for a “game” would show more for the WRONG being imposed on the Class of 2007.
I would hope Sue Cleveland and company, along with Gary Herron and other media that showed that much enthusiasm for a “game” would show more for the WRONG being imposed on the Class of 2007 especially our Seniors our children!
Weren’t we condemned and criticized in the news, in public for our emails and networking to get this situation changed?
Mayor Jackson, Sue Cleveland and company, Gary Herron, the Ryans and other media, which is more important a “game” or a graduation? I feel they are both important.
What about the fact that several thousands are affected men, women and children?
What about the fact an injustice has been dealt them?
What is wrong with anyone striving for:
“We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed, by their Creator, with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness”
“GO BACK TO THE PIT – PACK THE PIT” anyone under 10 are welcome too!
Lorenzo
March 28, 2007 10:12 AM
VOTE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! said...
VOTE!!!!!!!!
We WANT a vote for moving graduation back to The PIT since it is the only place that can accommodate a large audience. America is about Democracy and this change is the exact opposite of that. We live in New Mexico, a state in accordance to the United States Constitution.
Les
March 28, 2007 10:52 AM
Dr. Sue Cleveland said...
I have been reading all of these comments and it reminded of the past graduations I have been to. The speaker’s comments and theme range from: You’ve done it!; You are tomorrow’s future!; You have your whole lives ahead of you!; Atta Boy!; and everything else in-between. I have to admit I was always a sap for these speeches. I appreciated the heartfelt effort of the person giving it as well.
To The Graduating Class of 2007, what a wonderful message district office is sending you this year! There are so many excellent “Comments” posted here all you have to do is read them to understand the real message from district office.
THE PIT IS STILL OPEN it is time to pick up the pace and PASS THIS ON!
Jonny
March 28, 2007 12:25 PM
Dr. Cleveland said...
Take our Graduation Back To The Pit!!!
I have gone to Rio Rancho Schools for 12 years now.
I am an AP student and have been on the Honor Roll all 12 years.
This decision is NOT FAIR!
The newspaper said we were being "greedy", just because we want to put this to a fair vote?
Shame on them for insulting thousands of people for speaking up.
07 Senior
March 28, 2007 3:55 PM
On TV said...
Hi, did you hear about the new decision that RRHS has now? They want to broadcast it on TV. Ouch, not everyone has cable. WOW what a great IDEA lets just let friends and family sit in our living room with a bowl of popcorn and soda and enjoy the show. That is exactly how they are trying to sell it. How is it they really think people will be ok with that? Why go to all that trouble when we can drive down the hill to The Famous Pit?
Shelly
March 28, 2007 4:46 PM
Anonymous said...
MY NAME IS LATISHA AND I AM 11 YEARS OLD I HAVE A SISTER WHO IS A GRADUATE AND I AM VERY SAD TO HEAR WHAT IS HAPPENING. I WAS TOLD THAT I MIGHT HAVE TO STAY HOME. I LOOK UP TO MY SISTER AND I AM PROUD OF HER. SHE HAS WORKED HARD TO GET TO WHERE SHE IS. I CRIED WHEN MY MOM TOLD ME AND MY BROTHER WHO IS 7YEARS OLD THE NEWS PAPER SAID THAT THEY SHOULD LEAVE 10 AN YOUNGER AT HOME AM I SUPOSE TO WATCH MY BROTHER INSTEAD OF MY SISTER GRADUATE? I DONT KNOW WHY THE SCHOOL BOARD WANTS TO DO THIS TO MY FAMILY AND LOTS OF OTHER FAMILYS ALSO. IT SADDENS ME BECAUSE I WILL GRADUATE SOME DAY AND I DONT WANT THIS TO HAPPEN TO ME. CAN SOME ONE PLEASE HELP ME SO I SEE MY SISTER GRADUATE. I WOULD LIKE TO GO TO THE PIT SO I CAN GO WITH MY GRANDMA AND GRANDPA AND MY ANTIES I LOVE MY SISTER PLEASE BACK TO THE PIT. SAD IN RIO RANCHO LATISHA
March 28, 2007 6:55 PM
To Dr. Cleveland and Families affected said...
Some GREAT reading here.
After taking the time to really consider all of the reasons the administration decided to change our graduation. I have concluded beyond a shadow of a doubt that their reasons are self-serving. Their decisions discriminate against families and graduates and do not allow everyone to have a voice in this decision. It also places hardship, stress and is a serious distraction in people’s lives. It was completely one sided. At this time if they would allow us to vote they would lose. They will not allow us to vote at all costs. This will take legal action or enough people to complain about this decision. They are not listening and not conceding they are wrong.
Additionally, it is overtly obvious that there is a vast difference between the coverage on the news and the quality of the journalism concerning the Rio Rancho Observer, G. Herron, the Rio Rancho Journal, specifically the Ryans and the Tribune. Specifically, Herron and the Ryans editorial were both very offensive and poorly put together, with points that make no connections, other then to back the system. They never addressed the serious issues and made light of the fact a vote or fair input was not allowed; tickets are an obstacle; too bad for anyone’s extended family; and discriminated against persons concerning their age! (Herron) actually placed an age limit on the event! They degraded and shamed families for requesting relief and made their best argument to tell them to shut up, using because we told you so rhetoric, were smart your not, we know you don’t logic.
The other Journal and Tribune reporters presented the information that was given to them in a balanced manner.
NOTE: Our very own newspaper in the city of vision the Observer has NOT interviewed anyone that opposes this decision! Repeat has NOT! Which begs to ask…..WHY?
Can anyone say,
"Conflict of Interest"
Or
"Corporate Partners"
Go back to the Pit.
Randy
March 28, 2007 7:15 PM
LATISHA "ROCKS" and needs help, NOW! said...
Dr. Cleveland, you need to help an 11 year old and a 7 year old here in your school system, NOW please!
Ben
Anonymous said...
MY NAME IS LATISHA AND I AM 11 YEARS OLD I HAVE A SISTER WHO IS A GRADUATE AND I AM VERY SAD TO HEAR WHAT IS HAPPENING. I WAS TOLD THAT I MIGHT HAVE TO STAY HOME. I LOOK UP TO MY SISTER AND I AM PROUD OF HER. SHE HAS WORKED HARD TO GET TO WHERE SHE IS. I CRIED WHEN MY MOM TOLD ME AND MY BROTHER WHO IS 7YEARS OLD THE NEWS PAPER SAID THAT THEY SHOULD LEAVE 10 AN YOUNGER AT HOME AM I SUPOSE TO WATCH MY BROTHER INSTEAD OF MY SISTER GRADUATE? I DONT KNOW WHY THE SCHOOL BOARD WANTS TO DO THIS TO MY FAMILY AND LOTS OF OTHER FAMILYS ALSO. IT SADDENS ME BECAUSE I WILL GRADUATE SOME DAY AND I DONT WANT THIS TO HAPPEN TO ME. CAN SOME ONE PLEASE HELP ME SO I SEE MY SISTER GRADUATE. I WOULD LIKE TO GO TO THE PIT SO I CAN GO WITH MY GRANDMA AND GRANDPA AND MY ANTIES I LOVE MY SISTER PLEASE BACK TO THE PIT. SAD IN RIO RANCHO LATISHA
March 28, 2007 7:21 PM
The Observer call Yvette 994-9648 said...
"NOTE: Our very own newspaper in the city of vision the Observer has NOT interviewed anyone that opposes this decision! Repeat has NOT! Which begs to ask…..WHY?"
Call Yvette 994-9648 she will give you and interview
March 28, 2007 7:31 PM
Anonymous said...
I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHY THE SCHOOL BOARD IS MAKING IT MANDITORY FOR THE TEACHERS FROM THE RIO RANCHO MID HIGH ATTEND THE GRADUTION? THATS JUST MORE SEATS THEY ARE TAKING UP. MOST OF THE TEACHERS FROM THE MID HIGH DO WISH TO ATTEND
March 28, 2007 8:25 PM
senior 2007 said...
Herron from the rio rancho paper was very wrong for trying to put an age limit on who may attend the graduation.The way I see it at a senior is we are role models for the younger children to stay in school so they will accomplish this in their life. It teaches children that if we can do it they can do it too just stay in school and do good.It is wrong to not let them go then it just makes them think well since I may not attend to see them graduate why should they? It is also making Herron look really bad for trying to say that children 10 years and under should stay home with a babysitter. Why dont he stay home himself? We seniors are really good role models for those that are younger so they will want to stay in school. IT shows them that anything we put our minds to and make goals we can accomplish. We Need to go back to the Pit so everyone may attend no matter what the age is.
March 28, 2007 8:36 PM
TO: Mr. or Mrs. or Ms "Rant and Rave" said...
So Mr. "Rant and Rave" is upset that an individual blog set up to air the views of parents who disagree with the decision to move the Rio Rancho High School graduation ceremony won't post his comments. But isn't he the same guy who dismisses, as ridiculous, the complaint that publicly elected officials made a decision affecting hundreds, if not thousands, of people without giving proper notice, without allowing discussion, without taking into account dissenting opinions? So my fellow American who's really the hypocrite here? Or do you having trouble reading?
Oh, before I forget “little Johnny” is a graduating Senior, thank you very much, and can read! Evidently you can’t! Excuse me but the very first page of the blog allows you to comment if you are against having the graduation at The Pit. “Here’s the thing” you were in the w-r-o-n-g section sir or ma’am! So go find the right section and present your opposing points of view.
Melissa
March 28, 2007 10:47 PM
To "Little Johnny's Graduation": said...
Regarding this rant that is in The Observer 3/29/07 issue:
"If you agree with the folks who believe, in error, that they have a constitutional right to invite 50 relatives to little Johnny's high school graduation, then you should go to the Web site they've setup on blogspot and type to your heart's content. If you are among those of us who are glad that we are finally able to hold graduation in our own city, forget about the site. All opposing points of view are being promptly deleted. So much for inviting public comment. The funny thing about it is how many of the posts there are all about rights, equality, public debate, and amber waves of grain. The good news is that little Johnny is almost a graduate. At least he will know what 'hypocrite' means."
Basically, there are two (2) sections you are welcome to “COMMENT” if you are “for” The Pit or if you are “against” The Pit.
The Web Log Blog’s opening page has from the very beginning clearly stated that there are two (2) ways to "COMMENT" and allows both "for" and "against" sections. It has very simple instructions and anyone that can read regardless of age can easily understand it.
The "If you are against the move to return to THE PIT, " section specially wrote this person that “ranted” and advised them that they could take his/her time and expound on as many points that they disagreed with and submit their feelings. They were given “carte blanche” to write as much as they wanted. We have yet to officially hear back from this person or persons. You can still actually go to the blog and read the comment to this same person that “ranted”, it is still on the blog to verify that this explanation is accurate.
Additionally, this very same person was advised repeatedly that they were in the wrong section and clearly disregarded that advice.
echarles1234@aol.com
March 28, 2007 11:04 PM
TO: Mr. or Mrs. or Ms "Rant and Rave" again…. said...
Say it ain’t so Mr. "Rant and Rave"
You were told repeatedly you were in the wrong section and you disregarded the advice?
Wow, you sound like a person that demands their own way?
Just from the tone of your “rant” and how you mocked “little Johnny” it is crystal clear that your views are paramount over anyone else’s?
You could not read the accurate instructions and then disregarded them when they were given to you?
Further, you were allowed and encouraged to comment and you have not provided your opposing points of view?
Well, we would still like to return to The Pit it is that simple.
Melissa
March 28, 2007 11:19 PM
Dr. Cleveland said...
Take our graduation back to the PIT
Belinda
March 28, 2007 11:58 PM
DR. CLEVELAND: said...
YOU MADE A DECISION AFFECTING THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE
MEN, WOMEN AND CHILDREN
WITHOUT GIVING PROPER NOTICE,
WITHOUT ALLOWING DISCUSSION,
WITHOUT TAKING INTO ACCOUNT DISSENTING OPINIONS!
THANK YOU MELISSA
WAYNE
March 29, 2007 12:04 AM
"for" THE PIT "COMMENT" here: said...
PLEASE SIGN THE PETITION said...
SIGN THE PETITION
Add your name and/or comments to this thread. If you want to go BACK TO THE PIT click on "COMMENTS" below and write in the space provided. To sign up for a Google account, is completely free, or you can comment using the other options.
Contact us at cmj2nc@aol.com
March 29, 2007 7:45 AM
THE PIT - DR. CLEVELAND: said...
?
?
YOU MADE A DECISION AFFECTING THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE
MEN, WOMEN AND CHILDREN
WITHOUT GIVING PROPER NOTICE,
WITHOUT ALLOWING DISCUSSION,
WITHOUT TAKING INTO ACCOUNT DISSENTING OPINIONS!
NO MATTER WHICH AMERICAN FLAG YOU WAIVE ALL OF THIS IS ALLOWED IN OUR COUNTRY!
THANK YOU MELISSA
Harry
March 29, 2007 7:57 AM
DR. Cleveland, WHAT DID WE DO WRONG? said...
WHAT DID WE DO WRONG?
I’m going to start this comment here and encourage anyone that would like our graduation to return to THE PIT to add on to this comment if you would like:
I started out this comment with a question. If nobody had raised concerns then we would have never been made to feel like “the bad guy”, like we did something wrong, because I see the stress this is causing my parents and my friends and many others. Something is very wrong here if people in the news media are going to make you feel bad. Anonymous people putting down my fellow graduates calling them “little Johnny” and making fun of his “large family”, telling him his parents and all of us were “hypocrites” for questioning the decision and boasting how American they are and we aren’t! Who could be so important in this great big world to design such a “caste system” type of thinking?
I can tell you this Dr. Cleveland they have motivated me TO TRY EVEN HARDER NOW! We know The Pit is still open for business and the Star Center can break your contract. Just like this person so rudely stated what words “little Johnny” would learn I have learned a few myself, “WE HAVE DONE NOTHING WRONG”!
Class of 2007
March 29, 2007 8:45 AM
DR. Cleveland, WHAT DID WE DO WRONG? said...
"little Johnny's new words:
“ . . . That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles, and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and HAPPINESS . . . it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security. . .”
Lloyd
Original Blog:
DR. Cleveland, WHAT DID WE DO WRONG? said...
WHAT DID WE DO WRONG?
I’m going to start this comment here and encourage anyone that would like our graduation to return to THE PIT to add on to this comment if you would like:
I started out this comment with a question. If nobody had raised concerns then we would have never been made to feel like “the bad guy”, like we did something wrong, because I see the stress this is causing my parents and my friends and many others. Something is very wrong here if people in the news media are going to make you feel bad. Anonymous people putting down my fellow graduates calling them “little Johnny” and making fun of his “large family”, telling him his parents and all of us were “hypocrites” for questioning the decision and boasting how American they are and we aren’t! Who could be so important in this great big world to design such a “caste system” type of thinking?
I can tell you this Dr. Cleveland they have motivated me TO TRY EVEN HARDER NOW! We know The Pit is still open for business and the Star Center can break your contract. Just like this person so rudely stated what words “little Johnny” would learn I have learned a few myself, “WE HAVE DONE NOTHING WRONG”!
Class of 2007
March 29, 2007 9:00 AM
little Johnny said...
There are a number of people, both here and in the press, who keep dragging "little Johnny," a graduating senior, along with his family, into this mess. After enduring the callous, condescending remarks, and lack of common courtesy, Little Johnny woke up this morning and got his blog on!
http://littlejohnnyinriorancho.blogspot.com/
March 29, 2007 12:03 PM
Anonymous said...
So who's going to wake up little Susie?
March 29, 2007 7:18 PM
Anonymous said...
This stinks! RRPS has been less than truthful with RRHS students and their families. This is a public high school, so why are we having a private graduation? It's so private that even the families of the graduates are not welcome.
Gloria
March 29, 2007 7:23 PM
Anonymous said...
Dr. Cleveland,
Gloria brings up a very good point. We are a public High School, but have made the graduation private. Is it because Mr. VonAncken was booed last year? What do you think is going to happen this year? Graduating seniors booing him last year indicates you need to find out why that happened?
Jesse
March 29, 2007 9:47 PM
Question to anonymous? said...
Hello,
They "do" or don't want to attend?
Alex
Anonymous said...
I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHY THE SCHOOL BOARD IS MAKING IT MANDITORY FOR THE TEACHERS FROM THE RIO RANCHO MID HIGH ATTEND THE GRADUTION? THATS JUST MORE SEATS THEY ARE TAKING UP. MOST OF THE TEACHERS FROM THE MID HIGH DO WISH TO ATTEND
March 29, 2007 9:48 PM
Go Go Go Johnny Go, Go Johnny Go said...
Deep down in Rio Rancho no were not near Queens
Way back up in the hills among the evergreens
There stood a little house made of block and wood
Where lived a county boy named Johnny B Good
Who also learned to read n write so well
And he could play the guitar just like ringin a bell
Go, go, go johnny go go
go johnny go go
go johnny go go
go johnny go go
johnny be good
Then one day in 07 when his graduation came
Ol’ Doc Cleveland moved it nah it wasn’t the same
Oh they put down “little Johnny” cause he wouldn’t sit
Cause all he ask Ol’ Doc was to let him return to The Pit
He used to carry his guitar in a gunny sack
Or sit beneath the tree by the railroad track
Oh an engineer could see him sitting in the shade
Strummin' to the rhythm that the drivers made
People passing by they'd stop and say
Oh my but that little county boy can play
Go, go, go johnny go go
go johnny go go
go johnny go go
go johnny go go
johnny be good
His mother told him some day you will be a man
And you will be the leader of a big old band
Many people coming from miles around
And hear you play your music till the sun goes down
Maybe someday your name gonna be in light
Sayin' Jonny be good tonight
Go, go, go johnny go go
go johnny go go
go johnny go go
go johnny go go
johnny be good
Then one day in 07 when his graduation came
Ol’ Doc Cleveland moved it nah it wasn’t the same
Oh they put down “little Johnny” cause he wouldn’t sit
Cause all he ask Ol’ Doc was to let him return to The Pit
Go, go, go johnny go go
go johnny go go
go johnny go go
go johnny go go
johnny be good
little Johnny said...
There are a number of people, both here and in the press, who keep dragging "little Johnny," a graduating senior, along with his family, into this mess. After enduring the callous, condescending remarks, and lack of common courtesy, Little Johnny woke up this morning and got his blog on!
March 29, 2007 10:08 PM
BACK TO THE PIT - DR. CLEVELAND: said...
?
YOU MADE A DECISION AFFECTING THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE
MEN, WOMEN AND CHILDREN
WITHOUT GIVING PROPER NOTICE,
WITHOUT ALLOWING DISCUSSION,
WITHOUT TAKING INTO ACCOUNT DISSENTING OPINIONS!
NO MATTER WHICH AMERICAN FLAG YOU WAIVE ALL OF THIS IS ALLOWED IN OUR COUNTRY!
THANK YOU MELISSA
Cheryl
March 29, 2007 10:10 PM
DR. CLEVELAND GO BACK said...
FAMILIES, DON’T GIVE UP! They CAN BREAK THE SO CALLED CONTRACT! DON’T BELIEVE IT WHEN THEY TELL YOU THEY CAN’T! THEY CAN! THE PIT IS STILL OPEN FOR BUSINESS ON MAY 19TH! YIPPIEEE!!
Louise
March 29, 2007 10:13 PM
Dr. Cleveland said...
Go back to The Pit!
March 29, 2007 10:14 PM
The Observer said...
Editor:
I didn't appreciate Gary Herron's remarks on The Observer article (March 25 column) about the high school graduation being relocated.
"Come on, parents of graduating seniors of 2007. Get used to the idea that the ceremony is going to be held at the Santa Ana Star." The idea is being shoved down our throats, even by The Observer's editor.
The school board shouldn't have changed the location two months prior to graduation and after we all had ordered our graduation invitations. All our graduation invitations state the graduation is being held at University Arena, "The Pit."
Is the school board going to reimburse us for all the invitations we couldn't use? The simple solution to this mess the school board created is just hold the graduation at The Pit like we were told in the first place and let the graduates of next year hold theirs Santa Ana Star Center.
Now the school board wants to televise the graduation one Cable One Network.
A lot of parents, including myself, have Dish Network, which will not broadcast the graduation. I have never heard people being limited access to a high school graduation. Only in Rio Rancho, the "City of Vision."
Tony
March 29, 2007 10:17 PM
The Observer said...
Editor:
As a member of the graduating class of 2007, I am deeply saddened by the lack of responses from all the parents of my fellow classmates at Rio Rancho High School concerning the issue of our graduation.
The celebration of my graduation will be completely ruined if not all my family members that I want to attend may attend. This problem is not only a problem for those of us graduating this year, but everyone who will be graduating from Rio Rancho High until the new high school is finished and holding its own graduations.
There are some out there who say we are being greedy, but how is it greedy to want close family members within sight of me on one of the biggest days of my life? I am saying goodbye to childhood completely and walking off stage from it. I know I will be nervous that day to walk on stage, but to know that all my family is in the stands cheering me on will make it all better. If my family is not permitted to come into the actual venue and are told to watch it on television in my living room; what is the incentive for them to spend the $300-$500 dollars per person to fly out here? Is it that they get to spend the great day of my graduation with my television until I arrive home?
I plan to have a party with everyone, but that is not my main event. We can celebrate it at anytime if you think the way some people are talking. Back when my brother graduated in 2004, I was excited to tell my family that they would come back to that same spot in three years to celebrate with me. Now I get to tell them to enjoy the television or I'll tape the ceremony and mail it to them. Taping the ceremony in general will be cheaper for me too. I just won't go.
Also, what was the point of some of us ordering 25-100 invitations? Shouldn't we start calling them notices? Since we can't use them as invitations it would better describe them. If we do not make our graduation a large ceremony and make it an "intimate" celebration, I do not see the point of going.
Why don't I hold an "intimate" celebration at my house and pick up the diploma the next day? We are the tenth graduation class (sic, ninth such class; the first was in 1999) of Rio Rancho, and should be treated as fairly as past classes have. Since I was in ninth grade I have heard that they wanted the class of 2007 to graduate at our arena in Rio Rancho. If the city has been planning on us graduating there since then, why did they not built it big enough? They knew how big of a class we are.
I want to go to the Pit again this year, and if they had built the Santa Ana Star Center big enough I would be proud to go there too. I am a proud member of the class of 2007, and I hope the rest of my school and their parents can help me in fighting this issue.
On the day of graduation you will all notice who I am, the one toward the back of the class loudly booing as VonAncken, and Sue Cleveland step on stage.
Lee Ann
March 29, 2007 10:19 PM
The Observer said...
"Why would they (whoever they are) change the plans without the students/parents' opinion? It is all about the seniors, or else they wouldn't be holding a graduation ceremony and to only be able to invite six people to graduation? What if there's families with more than six people? Wow, how nice of you guys to not allow someone's entire family to attend. Good job. No wonder nobody likes Rio Rancho; it's ran by a bunch of idiots. The school doesn't even let students know what's going on, seems like they have no idea what they are doing. Everybody is angry, because of the fact that they changed it after everybody out of state has made plans, and now a majority of them won't even be able to attend. It's just ridiculous. Why did I pay 100 and somewhat dollars for invitations for graduation when I can't even send them out, because you can't use them to get in the graduation?"
March 29, 2007 10:21 PM
Dr. Cleveland said...
We like that other families in Rio Rancho feel the same way about the graduation.
Our family is asking those in charge to have the graduation at the location we were always told it would be, THE PIT.
We and our freinds support the petition.
Pass this along to everyone you know.
Jil
March 29, 2007 10:26 PM
Bobby D. already said...
"Come writers and critics
Who prophesize with your pen
And keep your eyes wide
The chance won't come again
And don't speak too soon
For the wheel's still in spin
And there's no tellin' who
That it's namin'.
For the loser now
Will be later to win
For the times they are a-changin'."
March 29, 2007 10:28 PM
Anonymous said...
I agree with everything that has been said. It is so very unfair to the graduates to ruin the plans of so many family members and loved ones who have planned to attend the graduation at the PIT. Stop the madness and return this important event to the PIT.
March 30, 2007 6:58 AM
Dr. Cleveland said...
“IT IS SO VERY UNFAIR TO THE GRADUATES TO RUIN THE PLANS OF SO MANY FAMILY MEMBERS AND LOVED ONES WHO HAVE PLANNED TO ATTEND THE GRADUATION AT THE PIT.”
Liz
March 30, 2007 7:40 AM
DR. CLEVELAND: said...
YOU MADE A DECISION AFFECTING THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE
MEN, WOMEN AND CHILDREN
WITHOUT GIVING PROPER NOTICE,
WITHOUT ALLOWING DISCUSSION,
WITHOUT TAKING INTO ACCOUNT DISSENTING OPINIONS!
THANK YOU MELISSA
Archer
March 30, 2007 8:21 AM
DR CLEVELAND said...
GREAT COMMENTS HERE TO GO BACK TO THE PIT
Pete
March 30, 2007 8:27 AM
Praying said...
I'm praying for this situation to be resolved so we can all enjoy the graduation at the PIT. God Bless you.
JoAnn
March 30, 2007 8:30 AM
Great point said...
If you believe in PRAYER, PRAY FOR GOD'S WILL IN THIS MATTER
March 30, 2007 8:41 AM
Praying for the PIT, too. said...
Praying for the PIT, too.
Kim
March 30, 2007 9:47 AM
James said...
Back to THE PIT NOW!!
March 30, 2007 10:13 AM
Lydia said...
We agree with going Back to THE PIT NOW!
March 30, 2007 10:22 AM
Praying for the PIT, too. said...
Praying for the PIT, too.
Juan
March 30, 2007 10:45 AM
"Katy Bar the DOOR!: said...
BACK TO THE PIT!
Roy
March 30, 2007 11:12 AM
yaragon said...
I want everyone to know that we appreciate all your responses regarding our fight to go back to The Pit
I want everyone to know that we are continuing to fight this matter SO PLEASE DO NOT GIVE UP because it is going to take ALL OF US to make this happen
The Pit is still available and because we know this, we are going to keep on fighting to have our graduation their
It is very important for the Seniors when you get back to school to get that Petition signed by everyone in school who will sign it and make sure and get their numbers so we can call their parents as well
We are all going to need everyone’s support at the school board meeting
I am working on getting to talk to the mayor and the governor to see if they can help so please do not give up
If anyone read the Rio Rancho Observer look in the opinion page their is a parent and senior who have a article in there but they also have 2 email addresses to email your opinions,
theobserver@rrobserver.com & news@rrobserver.com
Use both email addresses, please everyone send them an email as well since they have not done a story for us
I also got News 13 to agree to do a story again once spring break is over
I will send out that info again when I know for sure when
But for some weird reason when I called Channel 4 news they said they were aware of this situation but have been advised not to do any stories on this issue!
What’s up with that?
Someone seems to have some influence here but not sure who or why but I think that they are getting the picture that we are not going to go away
Please keep the pressure on and let all your friends and family to join in to help us
PASS THIS ON
Yvette 994-9648
March 30, 2007 4:34 PM
KOB TV said...
What's up with KOB?
They should cover this story in Rio Rancho!
Benjamin Class of 2008
March 30, 2007 4:37 PM
Dr. Cleveland, STOP now: said...
Please read the comments here, they will inform you about what is going on with the graduation. What is sad for me is Sue Cleveland is caught up in this situation. They don’t have a foot to stand on. We’ve all been taught right from wrong. This decision is wrong!
Sue Cleveland you need to get a handle on this or it’s going to get ugly.
You cannot discriminate against a person for having a large family or for having many contacts. You cannot discriminate against anyone concerning their age and this decision is doing both!
Sue Cleveland there are numerous Hispanic families here with large families.
Renn
March 30, 2007 4:45 PM
Viva La Raza! said...
Viva La Raza!
Take a very good look at this decision ladies and gentlemen. No matter what nationality you are we have to keep letting them know it is dead wrong. Just ask “little Johnny” he knows check it out: http://littlejohnnyinriorancho.blogspot.com/
Jorge
March 30, 2007 4:55 PM
Don't believe them said...
DR. CLEVELAND GO BACK
FAMILIES, DON’T GIVE UP!
They CAN BREAK THE SO CALLED CONTRACT!
DON’T BELIEVE IT WHEN THEY TELL YOU THEY CAN’T!
THEY CAN!
THE PIT IS STILL OPEN FOR BUSINESS ON MAY 19TH!
YIPPIEEE!!
Paula
March 30, 2007 5:04 PM
Dr. Cleveland please know said...
FACT:
All of the persons affected by this decision were not allowed to provide input.
No poll, data, investigation or analysis was utilized formally or informally involving all affected.
School personnel both willfully and knowingly did not utilize any method or tool regarding all of the persons affected by this decision.
March 30, 2007 7:57 PM
resign Dr. Cleveland now! said...
I am very upset over how this entire matter has been handled from top to bottom! I don’t want to curse here but I am completely ANGRY! Business is business the buck stops with Dr. Cleveland. If she can’t open her eyes and see the harm done, she needs to resign her position. Name that school after someone that deserves it. Those punk lackey writers in the newspaper are dumber and dumber THEY DO NOT TELL ME HOW TO RAISE MY CHILDREN, EVER!!! NOR DO THEY TELL ME MY 10 YEAR OLD CAN’T COME SEE THEIR BROTHER GRADUATE! I HAVE VOTED EVERYTIME A VOTE WAS NEEDED! HOW DARE THEY LUMP ME IN WITH PERSONS THEY FEEL ARE NEGLIGENT! RETIRE HERRON AND RYANS OR CHANGE YOUR OCCUPATION. HERRON HOW COME YOU OR YOUR NEWSPAPER HAS NOT INTEVIEWED A FAMILY AGAINST THIS DECISION? WHERE THE HELL IS ACTION JACKSON IN ALL THIS? OH, AND THE RANTER IN THE NEWSPAPER, YOU MAKE ME SICK HOW “AMERICAN” YOU THINK YOU ARE! SPELL THIS B-I-G-O-T, I KNOW YOU’RE ONE BECAUSE I’M WHITE LIKE YOU FOOL!
Lynn
March 30, 2007 8:30 PM
Dr. Cleveland said...
Back to The Pit
Cris
March 30, 2007 9:49 PM
Anonymous said...
The decision is discrimatory
change it back
Gwen
March 30, 2007 9:50 PM
Anonymous said...
Change it back please
Tye
March 30, 2007 9:51 PM
Anonymous said...
I don't write very well, but all you have to do is read the comments here and they say better then I could.
This is a wrong decision send the grads back to The Pit
Anita
March 30, 2007 9:55 PM
To the good Doctor said...
Ok, here is what I would like to say. Dr. Cleveland only you can get this contract undone and get us all back to the Pit. I truly hope God comes into your heart so you can see how bad this really is.
Ryan
March 30, 2007 9:58 PM
GO RAMS GO BACK TO THE PIT said...
2007 - Largest Graduating Class in the entire state and in our school’s history.
GO RAMS GO BACK TO THE PIT
Carl's Aunt Jenny
March 31, 2007 8:26 AM
Hey Doc, Sports Illustrated said...
THE PIT IS # 13!!!
Hey Doc, Sports Illustrated said:
SI's Top 20 Venues of the 20th Century
1 Yankee Stadium
2 Augusta National
3 Michie Stadium
4 Cameron Indoor Stadium
5 Bislett Stadium
6 Wrigley Field
7 Roland Garros
8 Lambeau Field
9 Fenway Park
10 Saratoga Race Course
11 Pebble Beach
12 Wembley Stadium
13 THE PIT
14 Boston Marathon Course
15 Camden Yards
16 Lamade Stadium
17 Daytona International Speedway
18 Notre Dame Stadium
19 St. Andrews
20 Rose Bowl
Others mentioned in no particular order, BUT TAKE A LOOK AT THESE OTHER NAMES!:
Boston Garden
Taylor Field
Yost Ice Arena
Indianapolis Motor Speedway
Memorial Stadium
The Melbourne Cricket Ground
The Palestra
Husky Stadium
The Montreal Forum
Michigan Stadium
Madison Square Garden.
Patterson Field
The Maracana Stadium
Lord's cricket ground
The San Siro
Wimbledon
Monte Carlo
LSU Tiger Stadium
Beaver Stadium
Allen Fieldhouse
Jordan-Hare Stadium
The Forum
Mile High Stadium
Tiger Stadium
___________
Grapevine0691 he said she said...
The University Arena
"The Arena"
"The PIT"
Sports Illustrated's Top-20 Sports Venues of the Century:
In June, 1999, Sports Illustrated listed its top-20 sporting venues of the century and The Pit checked in at No. 13.
“Sports Illustrated in 1999 named The Pit one of the Top 20 sporting venues of the 20th century — a list that includes Yankee Stadium, Wrigley Field, Pebble Beach and Daytona International.
Yeah, that’s big-time company. That’s like being compared to Babe Ruth, Joe Louis, Man O’ War, the Roman Empire, George Washington, Marlon Brando, Katharine Hepburn.
When you make an elite list like that maybe something special had to happen in The Pit above and beyond Lobos basketball.
And it did.”
There is beaucoup (bookoo) history and memories regarding "The PIT"! It is now 41 years young! I remember as a kid walking past from a distance as they prepared to build it. Gigantic hills were formed as they removed dirt.
“Famous hole has hosted superstars, special events… It’s probably the most famous hole in the ground since the Grand Canyon. It’s almost aged as well, too. Just look at some of the characters who have brought their acts to The Pit over the past 40 years: Michael Jordan, Mick Jagger, the Eagles, Jimmy Valvano, Dennis Rodman, Jethro Tull, Kareem Abdul Jabbar, Steve Nash, Elton John, James Taylor, Alonzo Mourning, Led Zeppelin, Christian Laettner, Luciano Pavarotti, George Strait, Patrick Ewing, John Wooden, Bobby Knight, Rick Pitino.” Stevie Wonder, Magic Johnson, Santana, Larry Nance, John Thompson, Bill Cosby and that’s the short list!
The name "The Arena" or "The PIT" were always popular titles when talking about the great concerts that took place there.
"The PIT" known for incredible Basketball, at the Professional, Collegiate and High School level. My Brother helped Coach a State Championship there!
And of course UNM and High School Graduations all at "The PIT"!
If you were fortunate to have had your graduation there either from High School or UNM or both there is a fondness about the place and you have to love the name, "The PIT"! Perhaps it was the event, but there is an undeniable "energy" there. Sure its a hole in the ground but if will always remain a location of celebration, accomplishment, music, history, success, defeat, incredible wins and gut wrenching losses, woulda, coulda, shoulda, lore, myth, legend, fact, fiction, blood, sweat and tears and forever simply, "The PIT".
I am sure there has been some very good stories written and told about the various events that have taken place there (see blow). Santana played there in the early 70's, the concert was ranked in the top 4 among all concerts that summer throughout the southwest.
Endless sports stories, concerts and graduations, I remember a graduation when the entire graduating class of Eldorado High School as well as families in the audience gave the principal a standing ovation this was in 2001 or 2002, that was impressive?
Last year they estimated over 11 million people have come to the Lobo games, that does not include ALL of the Graduations, concerts, etc.!
“Bill Cosby took on the Lobos 31 years ago and came out on top”
"What a terrific atmosphere for college basketball. Great building...great history...18,000 screaming fans. It's big time hoops, baby!" - Dick Vitale ESPN
“The Pit got its nickname because it is literally a pit dug out of Albuquerque’s Southeast Mesa. The roof was built first, then dirt was excavated to create a large hole. The arena floor is 37 feet below ground level. In 1966-67, season tickets for Lobos men’s basketball were $20 for bench seats and $30 for chairbacks. A single-game ticket was $2.50.
The opening season in The Pit featured 15 home games. The highest ranked Lobos team to play in The Pit was the Lobos men of 1966-67 who achieved a No. 3 ranking in January 1967.”
“One of college basketball's most famous and recognizable buildings, University Arena is the home of New Mexico men's and women's basketball.
The Pit is built in a 37-foot hole on Albuquerque's southeast mesa. First the roof was constructed, then the hole was dug and the Arena built. That all happened in 1966. The unique Behlen roof (338 by 300 feet) was set up by contractors and then 55,000 cubic yards of earth were removed. About 28,000 yards of concrete were poured in the initial construction, which allowed a seating capacity of 14,831. The cost - an incredibly economical $1.4 million.
Arena expansion was undertaken when it became apparent that fan interest was too great even for the original structure. The expansion in 1975 cost near $2.2 million and involved the extension of a cantilevered deck above the existing facility. There are six rows in the deck, with a seating capacity of 2,300. Reserved standing-room-only spots increase The Pit's capacity to 18,018.
The 2006-07 season will be the 41st year that University Arena has served as home for Lobo hoops. The first game was played Dec. 1, 1966, with New Mexico defeating Abilene Christian, 62-53. A total of 704 games have been played overall. The Lobos have come away the victor in 569 of those, good for a stunning .808 winning percentage.
What is even more impressive about UNM's home court is that over 11 million fans have flocked into this sunken edifice to see their beloved Lobos play basketball. The exact figure stands at 11,023,733. The Lobos have averaged an astounding 15,659 fans the past 40 years, an amazing 97% of capacity.
The Lobos have finished second in the nation in attendance five times, third on four occasions, and fourth six times.
2005-06 Attendance Numbers
The University of New Mexico is one of very few schools to have both its men's and women's basketball programs rank in the top-25 in attendance during the 2005-06 season. The Lobo women were fourth while the men finished No. 21. The UNM men and women have both finished in the top-25 in each of the past eight seasons.
The rankings:
Although the men's average of 13,387 is its lowest in 25 years, UNM has still finished in the top-25 for 40 consecutive years, or every season the Lobos have played in The Pit. No other school in the country can make that claim.
UNM hosted the NCAA Championship in 1983, won by North Carolina State over Houston, the 1968, '78, '92 and 2000 West Regional, the 1985 and 1996 West Region First and Second Rounds, and 1988 McDonald's High School All-American basketball game. The NCAA Men's First and Second Rounds were here in 2002 followed by the Women's First and Second Rounds and the Midwest Regional in 2003. UNM hosted the women's first and second rounds again in 2004, followed by the men's Albuquerque Regional in 2005 and the West Regional for the women's tournament in 2006. The Pit will again host NCAA women's tournament action in 2008 and 2009.
The UNM women's basketball team is also enjoying the home court advantage The Pit offers. Over the past nine seasons under current head coach Don Flanagan, The Pit has become one of the rowdiest places in all of women's college basketball. The women have compiled a home record of 159-32 (.832) over the last 11 years. The women's team has also been in the top-10, nationally, in average attendance in each of the last eight seasons. In 2006, the women's team averaged 10,355 fans per game, fourth in the NCAA, and posted a 16-2 record. On nine different occasions, the women's squad has sold out The Pit. Five times they have filled it to the 18,018 regular season capacity. Four times they sold out NCAA tournament games when the capacity was over 16,000. Each of these nine games has come since the 1999 season.”
Rio Rancho, “Go BIG or stay HOME”! “The PIT” is the Biggest venue in the state!
Ironically, I already wrote my Brother is the Uncle of this years Graduate from Rio Rancho, who helped Coach a State Championship at "The PIT", he also graduated at "The PIT" and lives in Albuquerque but will not be able to attend this Graduation because we won't have enough tickets and this is my Brother's favorite Nephew!
I have read a lot of diplomatic emails, I've read several comments back and forth when this all started here in March with good news coverage by KOAT and then very one-sided editors from the newspapers writing without the entire facts.
Read all of those emails sent to you and then please "PASS IT ON!
RIO RANCHO BASKETBALL TEAM YOU JUST ROCKED “THE PIT”,
YOU JUST WON YOUR FIRST STATE CHAMPIONSHIP;
MR. DUNCAN ENCOURAGED YOU AND ALL STUDENTS
TO “SHOW THEM WE OWN ‘THE PIT’!!
….AND YOU DID!!
WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO NOW?
“WE’RE GOING TO DISNEY LAN….WAIT….NO…..
WE WANT TO GO BACK TO “THE PIT” FOR OUR GRADUATION, WE OWN IT NOW!!
DID YOU SEE HOW MANY FANS WE HAD THERE?! IT WAS GREAT-GO RAMS!!!
http://epaper.abqjournal.com/Repository/ml.asp?Ref=VEUvMjAwNi8xMS8wOSNBcjAzMDAw&Mode=HTML&Locale=english-skin-custom
http://epaper.abqjournal.com/Repository/ml.asp?Ref=QVRMLzE5OTkvMTEvMTIjQXIwMzUwMA==&Mode=Html&Locale=english-skin-custom
http://epaper.abqjournal.com/Repository/ml.asp?Ref=VEUvMjAwNi8xMS8wOSNBcjAzMjAx&Mode=HTML&Locale=english-skin-custom
http://www.abqtrib.com/search/?q=%22the+pit+at+40%22&search_submit.x=0&search_submit.y=0
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In Great Company said...
Sports Illustrated's Top-20 Sports Venues of the Century:
In June, 1999, Sports Illustrated listed its top-20 sporting venues of the century and The Pit checked in at No. 13.
“Sports Illustrated in 1999 named The Pit one of the Top 20 sporting venues of the 20th century — a list that includes Yankee Stadium, Wrigley Field, Pebble Beach and Daytona International.
Yeah, that’s big-time company. That’s like being compared to Babe Ruth, Joe Louis, Man O’ War, the Roman Empire, George Washington, Marlon Brando, Katharine Hepburn.
When you make an elite list like that maybe something special had to happen in The Pit above and beyond Lobos basketball.
And it did.”
March 31, 2007 9:23 AM
Dr. Cleveland GO BACK said...
That is incredible information about THE PIT
being named right along with the greatest venues in THE WORLD!
Why don’t we all GO BACK TO THE PIT!!
Consider a Wedding….
you rent a location that can hold EVERYONE you invited!
We have all been various sized Weddings right?
We have THE World Famous PIT, right?
Then why are we downsizing?
Because the principal was booed?
District office needs to examine why the principal was booed
by the graduating Seniors 2006
and why Mr. Tripp was never booed?
THERE IS A REASON HE WAS BOOED
AND YOU ARE ALL LOOKING THE OTHER WAY!
I’m not condoning the booing
But you do not understand why it happened!
Don’t downsize, correct the problem.
GO BACK NOW!
Becky
March 31, 2007 10:44 AM
Becky knows said...
YES......
That is incredible information about THE PIT
being named right along with the greatest venues in THE WORLD!
THAT IS REALLY GREAT!
Why don’t we all GO BACK TO THE PIT!!
Yes consider a Wedding….
you rent a location that can hold EVERYONE you invited!
(Just like we already invited people to come to the graduation!)
We have all been to various sized Weddings right?
Small, Medium and Large!
We have THE World Famous PIT, right?
What would posses you to downsize at this late date?
Because the principal was booed?
The District office needs to examine why the principal was booed
by the graduating Seniors of 2006
and why our past principal, Mr. Tripp was never booed?
THERE IS A REASON WHY this principal WAS BOOED
AND YOU ARE ALL LOOKING THE OTHER WAY!
I’m also not condoning the booing...
But you do not understand why it happened!
Don’t downsize the location, correct the problem.
Don't discriminate against those of us with a large family or have young children!
GO BACK NOW!
Stephanie
March 31, 2007 11:45 AM
Alphonso said...
The proud parents of a graduating senior are asking you to return our daughter’s graduation to The Pit. The comments here explain it all. Something is very wrong with this last minute change no matter what the reasoning is.
Alphonso
March 31, 2007 12:09 PM
THE ANNOUNCEMENTS SUCK!! said...
THE ANNOUNCEMENTS SUCK!!
WE NEED TO GET AN ATTORNEY ON THIS. I DID NOT PAY $200 FOR A BUNCH OF MESSED UP ANNOUNCEMENTS!
I DON'T NEED THEM ALL NOW. PLEASE DON'T LET THEM GETAWAY WITH THIS.
Sal
March 31, 2007 12:15 PM
Brandon said...
We need to have our graduation at the Pit.
March 31, 2007 12:16 PM
Do the right thing Dr. Sue Cleveland. said...
I have an American flag hanging from my house and have had one there for over 15 years. I’ve voted on every issue regarding everything that required one. For me to tell you I am more an American then you are is an indication someone does not get it. For me to put you down just because you don’t see it my way is ignorance. I don’t judge people for the color of their skin, or if they have a flag in their yard, or if they don’t know what district they live in, or how old they are, or how many people they want to invite to a graduation or anything for that matter. Everyone should be able to present their point of view on any subject, period. I’m all for having the graduation in Rio Rancho, further, only after we have polled everyone affected, the seniors and their families. The current administration has it ass backwards and all you critics putting down people for speaking their minds are nothing but a bunch of …….. well I better not write that. Do the right thing Dr. Sue Cleveland.
Ernest
March 31, 2007 12:38 PM
Sherry said...
Great Petition and put this decision to a vote.
March 31, 2007 12:40 PM
CALL Yvette 994-9648 said...
I want everyone to know that we appreciate all your responses regarding our fight to go back to The Pit
I want everyone to know that we are continuing to fight this matter SO PLEASE DO NOT GIVE UP because it is going to take ALL OF US to make this happen
The Pit is still available and because we know this, we are going to keep on fighting to have our graduation their
It is very important for the Seniors when you get back to school to get that Petition signed by everyone in school who will sign it and make sure and get their numbers so we can call their parents as well
We are all going to need everyone’s support at the school board meeting
I am working on getting to talk to the mayor and the governor to see if they can help so please do not give up
If anyone read the Rio Rancho Observer look in the opinion page their is a parent and senior who have a article in there but they also have 2 email addresses to email your opinions,
theobserver@rrobserver.com & news@rrobserver.com
Use both email addresses, please everyone send them an email as well since they have not done a story for us
I also got News 13 to agree to do a story again once spring break is over
I will send out that info again when I know for sure when
But for some weird reason when I called Channel 4 news they said they were aware of this situation but have been advised not to do any stories on this issue!
What’s up with that?
Someone seems to have some influence here but not sure who or why but I think that they are getting the picture that we are not going to go away
Please keep the pressure on and let all your friends and family to join in to help us
PASS THIS ON
Yvette 994-9648
March 31, 2007 12:42 PM
"little Johnny" said...
There are a number of people, both here and in the press, who keep dragging "little Johnny," a graduating senior, along with his family, into this mess. After enduring the callous, condescending remarks, and lack of common courtesy, Little Johnny woke up this morning and got his blog on!
http://littlejohnnyinriorancho.blogspot.com/
March 31, 2007 12:44 PM
Marc said...
I want a vote to go back to the UNM Pit.
Marc
March 31, 2007 12:46 PM
RRPS go back said...
ATTN: RRPS we do not agree with how you handled the graduation change. GO BACK TO THE PIT
Carla
March 31, 2007 1:11 PM
Dr. Cleveland GO BACK TO THE PIT said...
Gary Herron’s opinions regarding families against the graduation changing are biased, rude, and of no real substance. His discrimination of anyone under the age of 10 is ludicrous and illogical. His remarks slap, he is the one that is "underhanded and nasty, at best" just look at the title of his storyline. I bet he sends in his own “rant”!
Beatrice
March 31, 2007 1:28 PM
To the news media said...
Mike and Genie Ryan have no common sense in their article, they talk about how parents need to educate their kids and what they should learn, these graduates have obviously learned or else they wouldn’t be graduating? Common sense, when we want your advice we’ll ask for it. We don’t need two “slack jawed yokes” telling us how to raise our children make that three-Gary Herron. Anytime I disagree with Sue Cleveland and her “posse” I will for sure speak up. None of you will tell what I can say or how I should think. Since when do you have the corner on freedom of speech?
Dr. Cleveland needs to let families decide.
Marge
March 31, 2007 1:29 PM
Alice said...
Dr. Cleveland we want this graduation at THE PIT, thank you.
March 31, 2007 1:31 PM
Billy said...
2007 Seniors are getting ripped off, the principal deserved to get booed last year!
March 31, 2007 1:45 PM
“Wake little Susie wake up” said...
This is the “little apple” damn it! Richard Vonacken better grow some tough skin. How’s come Tripp was never booed?
“Wake little Susie wake up”
March 31, 2007 1:47 PM
Isabel said...
Sorry Dr. Cleveland. We just can’t agree with changing this year’s graduation without allowing everyone to have input in this decision. We support the idea to have a graduation here; we don’t support harming thousands of people. We don’t support verbally degrading them in the newspaper. We don’t support discriminating against thousands of persons wanting to see a graduation.
Isabel
March 31, 2007 2:28 PM
Dr. Cleveland, superintendent: said...
Dr. Cleveland, superintendent:
Our family will have at least 12 persons in attendance. We are NOT going to short change another family from seeing their son or daughter graduate. Your decision is bad. We have six family members flying in from across the country. These plans were made well before we heard about this decision in the news. We never received any letter from the school. We want you to return the graduation to The Pit.
Darrel
March 31, 2007 2:36 PM
Dr. Cleveland said...
Fred concurs:
Whatever the merits of moving the Rio Rancho High School graduation ceremony to the Santa Ana Star Center in Rio Rancho, the decision should have been made before rather than after families had begun planning. Extended family members have already made travel plans and requested vacation times in anticipation of attending the ceremony for which they may not now get tickets. It is apparent there was not enough public deliberation about this issue. A decision affecting the entire school population should have been discussed publicly so that all voices were heard prior to the decision, particularly since the number of seats available to family and friends of the graduates has been reduced by more than two thirds. Please join us in moving the graduation ceremony back to The Pit. Sign the Petition and pass this information to everyone you know.
March 31, 2007 2:50 PM
Sue Cleveland said...
Sue Cleveland, don’t forget where you came from! This is not the Sue Cleveland I know! Sue, look at the facts and break your contract.
Dwight
March 31, 2007 3:00 PM
Manuel said...
DR. CLEVELAND YOUR DECISION IS DISCRIMINATION!
March 31, 2007 3:39 PM
Seniors 2007 said...
“Now Is the Time for All Good People to Come to the Aid of their 2007 Seniors”
March 31, 2007 4:11 PM
Dr. Cleveland said...
Dr. Cleveland, “those that fail to learn the lessons of history are doomed to repeat them”
Terry
March 31, 2007 4:18 PM
Dr. Cleveland said...
IT WAS THE CHOSEN FEW WHO YELLED THE LOUDEST, NOT EVERYONE WAS ALLOWED TO VOTE OR GIVE ANY INPUT! PRINCIPAL’S EGO WAS HURT BECAUSE HE WAS BOOED LAST YEAR, NO WONDER! THE DECISION TO CHANGE VENUES JUST HAPPENED EVEN THOUGH PLANS HAVE ALREADY BEEN MADE! THE DISTRICT IS NOW USING THE EXCUSE THEY ALREADY SIGNED THE CONTRACT! ABOUT 10,000 PEOPLE THAT WANT TO BE THERE CAN’T GO! ANNOUNCEMENTS HAVE “THE PIT” ON THEM, THAT IS TERRIBLE! WE LIVE IN AMERICA, WE HAVE RIGHTS! WE CANNOT LET THEM GET AWAY WITH THIS! FOR THE SAKE OF OUR CHILDREN!
Kevin
March 31, 2007 5:08 PM
Dr. Cleveland said...
The school board never voted on the decision to move the location of graduation. They are aware of it but refuse to overrule this mistake. The majority of parents and students do not want this. They won’t allow a vote because then it will change their plans.
Wallace
March 31, 2007 5:08 PM
To Dr. Cleveland said...
The decision being imposed on everyone is terrible planning!
Who was allowed to vote?
Who was allowed to decide?
Input should have been requested from everyone not just from those that voiced their concerns!
How is that considered fair?
All Graduates and Parents should have been advised about this change in August 2006 not this late, not this late in March 2007.
You said “many” made the decision there are “many” more that want this at “The Pit”.
Everyone did not give input!
How could this have been overlooked?
Let us vote now!
Patty
March 31, 2007 5:09 PM
Dr. Cleveland said...
Dr. Cleveland we humbly ask for the over 10,000 people that would like to be at the graduation but can't due to limited seating, PLEASE come back to your senses! For goodness sake they are naming a school after you, show some basic human compassion and fairness here!
Ron
March 31, 2007 5:21 PM
Graduation Cancelled The Observer said...
Graduation Cancelled The Observer
By TOM TREWEEK/OBSERVER STAFF REPORTER
What started recently as a simple decision has now grown into Rio Rancho Public Schools' most controversial move ever, topping even Science Policy 401 and sex education.
Two factions have developed in the debate over the location for this year's RRPS graduation ceremony. One group of parents was thrilled that it would be held at the Santa Ana Star Center, while the other wanted to use The Pit in Albuquerque, which allowed more people to attend.
Now, neither group is happy.
RRPS Superintendent Dr. Sue Cleveland has announced a press conference for later today in which she will officially cancel the graduation ceremony.
"No matter what we did, we couldn't make anyone happy," she said. "So we're going to make everyone unhappy."
By canceling graduation, Cleveland is following through with a promise to the conflicting sides: "If you two can't get along, I'm going to pull over right now."
School officials briefly considered holding graduation ceremonies at Laté Da, a drive through coffee shop on NM 528, but later decided against the idea fearing it was too large.
The school's seniors will still earn their degrees, but there will be no ceremony to commemorate that feat. Diplomas will be mailed.
Said one student, "I'm happy with Cleveland's decision. After all, the goal of graduation is to please the parents, not to honor the students for all of their hard work."
March 31, 2007 6:26 PM
graduation cancelled? said...
WHAT?????
March 31, 2007 6:48 PM
To Gary Herron said...
"To Gary Herron ... Shame on you. These wonderful kids in Rio Rancho deserve our respect. They have worked hard to get to this point in their life and you write that it is our 'greed' to want to see these kids graduate. Fine, give away your other tickets for all the other parents, grandparents, aunts, uncles, and other family/friends who are very proud of our kids. This is not abuse but pride in our child. How dare you say that the school board deserves our respect? What was it that the principal of the high school said, they are trying to create a positive experience for everyone and this is for the community? No it's not, it's for the families of the graduates. They are the ones who deserve our respect for guiding their children to this point in time. If the school board actually thought about trying to 'make a large number of people happy' they should have left well enough alone and had this celebration of accomplishment at The Pit, where there wouldn't be an issue of how many people can attend. You should be ashamed of your own selfishness. This isn't a community event that needs to be in Rio Rancho or at the Star Center, it is a celebration for everyone. Look at how many kids will graduate, 600 and something. This is not just for the families, or the community, this is for all of the state to see how well Rio Rancho has excelled."
March 31, 2007 6:51 PM
Graduation Cancelled? said...
Did you hear this?
WHAT?????
March 31, 2007 7:06 PM
Call Dr. Cleveland now said...
Graduation Cancelled
The Observer By TOM TREWEEK/OBSERVER STAFF REPORTER
What started recently as a simple decision has now grown into Rio Rancho Public Schools' most controversial move ever, topping even Science Policy 401 and sex education.
Two factions have developed in the debate over the location for this year's RRPS graduation ceremony. One group of parents was thrilled that it would be held at the Santa Ana Star Center, while the other wanted to use The Pit in Albuquerque, which allowed more people to attend.
Now, neither group is happy.
RRPS Superintendent Dr. Sue Cleveland has announced a press conference for later today in which she will officially cancel the graduation ceremony.
"No matter what we did, we couldn't make anyone happy," she said. "So we're going to make everyone unhappy."
By canceling graduation, Cleveland is following through with a promise to the conflicting sides: "If you two can't get along, I'm going to pull over right now."
School officials briefly considered holding graduation ceremonies at Laté Da, a drive through coffee shop on NM 528, but later decided against the idea fearing it was too large.
The school's seniors will still earn their degrees, but there will be no ceremony to commemorate that feat. Diplomas will be mailed.
Said one student, "I'm happy with Cleveland's decision. After all, the goal of graduation is to please the parents, not to honor the students for all of their hard work."
March 31, 2007 7:16 PM
April's fool said...
Oh, hey, that's a good one! It's a hoax, folks. Now that I look at it, they were intentionally over the top in suggesting that graduation be held at Late Da - it wouldn't hold a roll of stamps. Pretty sure the call you make should be to The Observer editor, not Sue Cleveland - she didn't say it, and they make it clear in the editor's note: "We hope you recognize that none of the accounts nor quoted statements were true."
April 1, 2007 8:49 AM
retired reporter said...
How does the Observer know that you want them to do a story? Have you called them, or are you just expecting them to respond to your calls to the TV stations? No need to send a reporter, they are allowing you the space to tell your own story in letters and comments.
April 1, 2007 8:56 AM
good joke bad joke said...
this was a BAD joke, for sure The RR Observer is consistent.
Molly
April 1, 2007 8:59 AM
retired reporter said...
Yvette,
Seriously - the next time you pick up the phone to call KOAT, call The Observer. I suspect they aren't covering it because you haven't called them, yet you call the TV station in Albuquerque? Newspaper reporters operate the same way the TV stations do: they get news because someone makes the effort to share news.
April 1, 2007 9:12 AM
news junkie said...
I'm trying to figure out what the ABQ TV stations expect to gain from covering this - could it be that they have financial interest in holding graduation at the Pit? Are they corporate partners there? Seems odd to suggest one media source has financial interest without wondering about the others who appear so eager to cover it? What's in it for them - it can't be ratings. Can anyone tell me anything about this?
April 1, 2007 9:20 AM
matches malone said...
i'll see ya' all at 1
April 1, 2007 9:46 AM
tell me more retired said...
Retired,
Did you do any more research on this?
retired reporter said...
Tell me more: I'm paraphrasing, but I remember "Rants" in the Observer newspaper from parents with words to this effect, i.e., "what were they thinking" in building a Center not large enough to accommodate graduates. I suspect that the Administration may be thinking they were doing the "right" thing. I need to do a bit more research on the archived specifics, my retention isn't what it once was.
April 1, 2007 10:19 AM
Nobody's Fool said...
Oops, I am an April Fool,
Sorry, the graduation is not cancelled!
Ummmm...maybe I should have read it better before reading/posting portions of the article, I shoulda’ read the whole thing.
April 1, 2007 10:34 AM
Anonymous said...
I got the joke it was a BAD joke
April 1, 2007 10:46 AM
call The Observer said...
892-8080
Betta
April 1, 2007 10:52 AM
little Johnny got his blog on! said...
little Johnny said...
There are a number of people, both here and in the press, who keep dragging "little Johnny," a graduating senior, along with his family, into this mess. After enduring the callous, condescending remarks, and lack of common courtesy, Little Johnny woke up the other morning and got his blog on!
http://littlejohnnyinriorancho.blogspot.com/
April 1, 2007 11:55 AM
little johnny said...
Dear retired reporter:
Um...real newspapers actually go out and find the news. The news doesn't have to come looking for a reporter. And, hasn't the Observer already received letters and emails concerning this story? KOAT has done three newscasts on it. Is the paper waiting for someone to say pretty please?
It's interesting, and quite revealing, that the Observer's first front page news article about the Rio Rancho High School graduation ceremony being hijacked by the school administration, is not serious coverage, but a lame joke. That's exactly how they see this situation: as a joke.
Yvette Aragon may have to drive over to the Observer's offices and stand outside holding something shiny to get their attention.
April 1, 2007 12:31 PM
Inego Montoya said...
That's exactly what they've done! RRPS has HIJACKED the graduation and they're holding it hostage at the Santa Ana Star Center!
Curse you, Vonacken!
April 1, 2007 12:38 PM
retired reporter said...
Little Johnny,
You are misinformed, it doesn't work this way at all. True, reporters "go out" to get news, but they are quite often called or tipped as to when and where news happens - news antennae aren't standard issue in "J" school, we should be so lucky.
KOAT has done the stories because they have been called. Or do you actually think their news van was driving up 528 and their superior news antennae picked up the graduation buzz signal? "Quick! Make a U-turn, there's a strong signal coming from the southeast corner of this-a-way and that-a-way." April Fools! Not likely. They were called, otherwise they wouldn't have bothered.
You may disagree with the method, but his story is being covered without a reporter: they are allowing significant space to the letters and statements from both sides of this issue. Truth is, they aren't required to do anything at all.
April 1, 2007 1:13 PM
retired reporter said...
Yikes, that's "this" story. Guess I still need a copy editor :-)
April 1, 2007 1:14 PM
retired said...
To Retired,
I was asked to leave a comment here.This info is here in the comments of this blog I just copied them you can go back thru the comments and find them.Here are two different reporters going after a story.
Additionally, KOAT called me at the beginning of this entire matter just so you know.
John
KOAT wants you to call said...
Please call or email:
Rio Rancho Blog
KOAT is interested in updating our story on your fight to have the
graduation ceremonies moved back to the Pit.
Please write back with contact information or give me a call.
Thanks,
Cary J. Schwanitz
505-884-6324
cschwanitz@hearst.com
March 22, 2007 9:17 AM
Albuquerque Tribune said...
Please email and call Stephanie:
HI, this is Stephanie from the Albuquerque Tribune. I'd like to speak to someone about this. My number is 823-3609.
Thanks,
Stephanie Garcia Krenrich
sgarciakrenrich@abqtrib.com
April 1, 2007 1:40 PM
tell me more retired said...
Retired,
Did you do any more research on this?
retired reporter said...
Tell me more: I'm paraphrasing, but I remember "Rants" in the Observer newspaper from parents with words to this effect, i.e., "what were they thinking" in building a Center not large enough to accommodate graduates. I suspect that the Administration may be thinking they were doing the "right" thing. I need to do a bit more research on the archived specifics, my retention isn't what it once was.
April 1, 2007 1:43 PM
call The Observer said...
Anyone that would like to give them a story for the ages please
encourage everyone you know to
call The Observer said...
892-8080
Betta
April 1, 2007 3:52 PM
retired reporter said...
Tell me more retired,
I wasn't successful in locating the info on the Observer website, but I was successful in my request to review the printed archives for this period last year. That said, I haven't had an opportunity to visit the Observer offices as yet due to some unexpected travel recently. When I am available to do so, I'll update and share.
April 1, 2007 3:59 PM
I'm still mad said...
Hi, Back to The Pit people.
I just finished reading the front page of today’s Observer newspaper. Wheeww! My blood pressure just went through the roof! I called my friend to tell her and found out it was all an April Fool’s Joke! OUCH, I am still boiling angry! My friend let me know how upset her family was after reading the front page and told me about this web site. I have been reading a lot of the comments here and I am even more disgusted! I now I decided to add one too! Oh my, I am so glad I found you.
I admit I WAS one of those that did not mind the graduation was at the Star Center. Thanks to the little April Fool’s gag I am mad as hell and did not realize how many people are getting hurt over this! Count us in! Dr. Cleveland, change the graduation. Observer news staff, I hate you!!!
Danielle
April 1, 2007 5:07 PM
WHAAAAT? said...
Go to:
http://littlejohnnyinriorancho.blogspot.com/
I am very saddened that discrimination is very much a large part of this entire decision.
Spanish speakers, whiners, being rowdy covered all at one time? Yes and the good editor, Mr. Herron or anyone else did not bother to clarify this language’s origin or history in this part of the country?
Whaaaat?
The shameless face of bigotry rears its ugly head:
From the Observer
"I agree with the guy on the Ford advertisements speaking in Spanish, and some of the furniture stores do the same. I won't buy from any of them, either. If you want to speak Spanish, move back to Mexico. Also, I have never seen so many whiners about where they're going to have the graduation. If they hadn't acted so rude and out of order last year, maybe they would have listened to them. Also, Ned Cantwell's (columns) are very good."
This is just straight-up prejudice. FYI, amigo, Spanish was spoken in New Mexico long before English. I notice Mr. Herron didn't add his two cents to this rant.
little Johnny got his blog on! said...
little Johnny said...
There are a number of people, both here and in the press, who keep dragging "little Johnny," a graduating senior, along with his family, into this mess. After enduring the callous, condescending remarks, and lack of common courtesy, Little Johnny woke up the other morning and got his blog on!
http://littlejohnnyinriorancho.blogspot.com/
April 1, 2007 6:15 PM
Call Yvette 994-9648 said...
Call Yvette 994-9648
We have started a Hard Copy paper PETITION and if you would like to sign it, please call me and I will meet you to get it signed.
My number again is 994-9648.
Any other ideas?
Let me know, because we need to let them know that WE ARE NOT JUST "MAKING NOISE"
WE all know this is a very important issue to our graduates and to all of us involved.
We need to continue to show our support.
April 1, 2007 6:31 PM
PIT still open on 5/19 said...
Hello everyone,
Reminder:
I spoke to THE PIT, yes!
They still have May 19TH open! They will not schedule anything on that day.
Cost for THE PIT = $7,800.00
Cost for the Center = $6,200.00
A seat at the Center costs more then a seat at THE PIT.
How about that!
M
April 1, 2007 6:34 PM
Great comment said...
Great comment
“What we have here is failure to communicate”
This has been said over and over again. I think because we are short on time we need to put this to a fair vote. No hanky panky. The school board is not going to back us, if they were they already would have. They are all stalling just by the fact they have not allowed a vote by anyone formally. They know their decision would lose in a fair vote. This has power play written all over it. Everyone is pointing fingers but they are not budging. Even the Rio Rancho media is supporting the bad decision and criticizing any little comment that is made.
Keep passing the word along The Pit is still available. All that nonsense with TV feed is garbage and it confirms they messed up. The Rio Rancho media is NOW trying to say that The Pit is only going to hold 11,000, they are still over 60% short! 60% percent is still a lot of people that can’t be there and want to be there. I also think The Pit would hold more then 11,000 people the media has their figures wrong. Also, they said there are 4 ways to get to the Star Center, please draw me a map. You have to drive through Rio Rancho to get to a 2 lane road, and when you get there it is 1 way in and 1 way out. I know, I go to the hockey games.
Abe
April 1, 2007 6:47 PM
get with it said...
I can't see how we'll get anything changed if we can't get our information straight. Gary Herron wrote the column, but he is not the editor. If you're going to point the finger of blame, be sure that your information is correct, otherwise this blog has no credibility.
April 1, 2007 8:41 PM
hockey fan said...
Power play? Only in hockey. Whether or not you agree with the decision, they are doing the job they are paid to do. They don’t require our opinions or votes to make this decision, and if they were the least bit interested, they would have asked for input BEFORE they made the decision. They didn’t. Get it?
April 1, 2007 8:44 PM
feeling silly said...
To I'm still mad . . .
Oh, boy, I got sucked into that one, too. I read something another website earlier today, though, that talked about things to watch for in the media on April Fool's. One of them was "Is it over the top?" When I got to the part about holding graduation at Late Da, I was boiling over, too, thinking, "WHAT?!!". Then I noticed that the date was just above the article, and it reads "April Fool's, 2007", and I thought, "Oh my God! This is COMPLETELY over the top!" I started laughing, and I'm still laughing. They got us. It tells me that they do understand how serious it is, and, hey - it made the front page! If there is no such thing as bad publicity, it will work to call attention to it.
April 1, 2007 8:58 PM
sign it said...
How is the media coverage helping? TV, newspaper, they’re all the same, and the administration isn’t going to budge now that the media is involved – they can’t, they’ll look too silly. Too public, and too controversial, they won’t touch it. I say get the signatures and hope for the best.
April 1, 2007 9:03 PM
lost said...
Abe,
I think there are three ways in: two off Unser and one off Idalia. True, when you get there, traffic is condensed to one road, but they usually open two lanes going in. I don't know how they count four, though.
April 1, 2007 9:06 PM
krypton said...
I can't find anything anywhere that says we can vote on where graduation is held. Can somebody help me understand how we're going to get anyone to allow us to vote?
April 1, 2007 9:16 PM
get with it said...
Get with it,
Thanks, I worded wrong, It is corrected now:
WHAAAAT? said...
Go to:
http://littlejohnnyinriorancho.blogspot.com/
I am very saddened that discrimination is very much a large part of this entire decision.
Spanish speakers, whiners, being rowdy covered all at one time? Yes and the neither the good editor, nor Mr. Herron or anyone else did not bother to clarify this language’s origin or history in this part of the country?
Whaaaat?
The shameless face of bigotry rears its ugly head:
From the Observer
"I agree with the guy on the Ford advertisements speaking in Spanish, and some of the furniture stores do the same. I won't buy from any of them, either. If you want to speak Spanish, move back to Mexico. Also, I have never seen so many whiners about where they're going to have the graduation. If they hadn't acted so rude and out of order last year, maybe they would have listened to them. Also, Ned Cantwell's (columns) are very good."
This is just straight-up prejudice. FYI, amigo, Spanish was spoken in New Mexico long before English. I notice Mr. Herron didn't add his two cents to this rant.
little Johnny got his blog on! said...
little Johnny said...
There are a number of people, both here and in the press, who keep dragging "little Johnny," a graduating senior, along with his family, into this mess. After enduring the callous, condescending remarks, and lack of common courtesy, Little Johnny woke up the other morning and got his blog on!
http://littlejohnnyinriorancho.blogspot.com/
April 1, 2007 9:20 PM
Call Yvette 994-9648 said...
Yes, Call Yvette 994-9648
We have started a Hard Copy paper PETITION and if you would like to sign it, please call me and I will meet you to get it signed.
My number again is 994-9648.
Any other ideas please let me know?
Let me know, because we need to let them know that WE ARE NOT JUST "MAKING NOISE"
WE all know this is a very important issue to our graduates and to all of us involved.
We need to continue to show our support.
April 1, 2007 9:24 PM
Get it? Got it! Good said...
True:
"if they were the least bit interested, they would have asked for input BEFORE they made the decision"
April 1, 2007 9:27 PM
democracy rules said...
We might be able to save some time and energy if we could figure out where to find the language in the Constitution, the City Charter, the Administration policy or any documentation that says we're entitled to vote. Anybody?
April 1, 2007 9:46 PM
Maggie Mae said...
Well, lets make sure we tell everyone we know to sign Yvette's petition. Because she has the hard copy.
PASS IT ON
April 1, 2007 9:59 PM
Carlos said...
This years seniors should not be blamed for last years problems.
Telling people to go back to Mexico and I am a whiner because I think the decision is wrong?
1 way in or 4 ways in, whatever, that place for sure is going to be a mess going and leaving.
Well, we all have our opinions.
I'm being peaceful and encourage everyone to do the same.
April 1, 2007 10:07 PM
democracy rocks said...
A petition signed by parents and families who are not homeowners and/or tax payers may not have much weight, just a thought.
April 1, 2007 10:09 PM
Laté Da said...
Laté Da!
NO THE PIT
April 2, 2007 6:34 AM
for the sake of our children said...
For the sake of our children!
April 2, 2007 6:37 AM
DR. Cleveland, WHAT DID WE DO WRONG? said...
"little Johnny's” new words:
You cannot discriminate against a person for having a large family or for having a large amount of contacts. You cannot discriminate against anyone concerning their age and this decision is doing both!
Sally
DR. Cleveland, WHAT DID WE DO WRONG? said...
"little Johnny's” new words:
“ . . . That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles, and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and HAPPINESS . . . it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security. . .”
Lloyd
ORIGINAL BLOG:
DR. Cleveland, WHAT DID WE DO WRONG? said...
WHAT DID WE DO WRONG?
I’m going to start this comment here and encourage anyone that would like our graduation to return to THE PIT to add on to this comment if you would like:
I started out this comment with a question. If nobody had raised concerns then we would have never been made to feel like “the bad guy”, like we did something wrong, because I see the stress this is causing my parents and my friends and many others. Something is very wrong here if people in the news media are going to make you feel bad. Anonymous people putting down my fellow graduates calling them “little Johnny” and making fun of his “large family”, telling him his parents and all of us were “hypocrites” for questioning the decision and boasting how American they are and we aren’t! Who could be so important in this great big world to design such a “caste system” type of thinking?
I can tell you this Dr. Cleveland they have motivated me TO TRY EVEN HARDER NOW! We know The Pit is still open for business and the Star Center can break your contract. Just like this person so rudely stated what words “little Johnny” would learn I have learned a few myself, “WE HAVE DONE NOTHING WRONG”!
Class of 2007
April 2, 2007 6:51 AM
For the sake of our children! said...
YES, For the sake of our children!
April 2, 2007 7:23 AM
For the sake of our children! said...
YES, For the sake of our children!
April 2, 2007 7:24 AM
Anonymous said...
My daughter Linnea Martinez a Senior at Rio Rancho High started the firstsigned petition and had over 900 signatures to move graduation back to the UNM Pit. She was told to stop and that she could be expelled from school for petitioning and her petitions were taken away. She has backed off from her petition (as I cautioned her) and now she cannot voice her opinion.
Sincerely Frustrated
Nova Shah (novashah@cableone.net) and
Linnea Martinez (monkeybiz2007@hotmail.com)
April 2, 2007 7:25 AM
yaragon said...
Today the seniors did a wonderful thing by putting those flyers out all over the school and by writing on the sidewalks how did they respond to this by cleaning it up I want to encourage you to continue putting the flyers out everyday and continue with the petition and to remind everyone that the school board meeting is April 9 at 5:00 pm anyone that can attend please go have family members friends anyone who wants to support the move to THE PIT go please call me if you know for sure that you are going to attend so we can all get together before that date my number again is 994-9648 or email me at nanee_angel@yahoo.com
April 2, 2007 10:03 AM
SCHOOL BOARD MEETING said...
THE SCHOOL BOARD MEETING
Monday April 9 at 5:00 pm
ANYONE THAT CAN ATTEND PLEASE GO
HAVE FAMILY MEMBERS-FRIENDS-ANYONE
WHO WANTS TO SUPPORT THE MOVE TO THE PIT
PLEASE GO
CALL ME IF YOU KNOW FOR SURE THAT YOU ARE GOING TO ATTEND
SO WE CAN ALL GET TOGETHER BEFORE THAT DATE
MY NUMBER AGAIN IS 994-9648
OR EMAIL ME AT nanee_angel@yahoo.com
Yvette
April 2, 2007 10:15 AM
Sense of humor said...
Late Da! Rhymes with Koom ba ya!
April 2, 2007 10:59 AM
DR. Cleveland, WHAT DID WE DO WRONG? said...
"little Johnny's” new words:
For the sake of the children
DR. Cleveland, WHAT DID WE DO WRONG? said…
"little Johnny's” new words:
You cannot discriminate against a person for having a large family or for having a large amount of contacts. You cannot discriminate against anyone concerning their age and this decision is doing both!
Sally
DR. Cleveland, WHAT DID WE DO WRONG? said...
"little Johnny's” new words:
“ . . . That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles, and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and HAPPINESS . . . it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security. . .”
Lloyd
ORIGINAL BLOG:
DR. Cleveland, WHAT DID WE DO WRONG? said...
WHAT DID WE DO WRONG?
I’m going to start this comment here and encourage anyone that would like our graduation to return to THE PIT to add on to this comment if you would like:
I started out this comment with a question. If nobody had raised concerns then we would have never been made to feel like “the bad guy”, like we did something wrong, because I see the stress this is causing my parents and my friends and many others. Something is very wrong here if people in the news media are going to make you feel bad. Anonymous people putting down my fellow graduates calling them “little Johnny” and making fun of his “large family”, telling him his parents and all of us were “hypocrites” for questioning the decision and boasting how American they are and we aren’t! Who could be so important in this great big world to design such a “caste system” type of thinking?
I can tell you this Dr. Cleveland they have motivated me TO TRY EVEN HARDER NOW! We know The Pit is still open for business and the Star Center can break your contract. Just like this person so rudely stated what words “little Johnny” would learn I have learned a few myself, “WE HAVE DONE NOTHING WRONG”!
Class of 2007
April 2, 2007 11:13 AM
Class of 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010 said...
Class of 2007
(& 2008, 2009, 2010)
HOW MANY GUESTS
ARE PLANNING TO ATTEND YOUR GRADUATION?
IS IT LESS THAN 8?
IS IT MORE THAN 8?
If you said MORE than 8, then you need to sign the petition to move YOUR Graduation ceremony back to THE PIT!
Mon 4/2 - Thu 4/5 keep an eye out for people passing
around the petition at the high school
THE PIT has twice the capacity of the Arena. If all of the previous graduations are an indicator, the Arena will not be large enough until Rio Rancho HS and Dr. Cleveland HS have separate graduations. (not for at least another 4 years!)
PARENTS (and residents of Rio Rancho)-
If you would like to sign the petition, please contact
Yvette @ 994-9648. She will make arrangements with you to sign the petition.
PLEASE HELP in this effort by attending the School board meeting April 9 at 5pm. We need as many people as possible to come support this petition.
April 2, 2007 12:21 PM
SCHOOL BOARD MEETING 4/9 said...
THE SCHOOL BOARD MEETING
Monday April 9 at 5:00 pm
ANYONE THAT CAN ATTEND PLEASE GO
HAVE FAMILY MEMBERS-FRIENDS-ANYONE
WHO WANTS TO SUPPORT THE MOVE TO THE PIT
PLEASE GO
CALL ME IF YOU KNOW FOR SURE THAT YOU ARE GOING TO ATTEND
SO WE CAN ALL GET TOGETHER BEFORE THAT DATE
MY NUMBER AGAIN IS 994-9648
OR EMAIL ME AT nanee_angel@yahoo.com
April 2, 2007 12:45 PM
DR. Cleveland, WHAT DID WE DO WRONG? said...
DR. Cleveland, WHAT DID WE DO WRONG?
"little Johnny's” new words:
"unintended consequence"
Jose
DR. Cleveland, WHAT DID WE DO WRONG? said….
"little Johnny's” new words:
For the sake of the children
DR. Cleveland, WHAT DID WE DO WRONG? said…
"little Johnny's” new words:
You cannot discriminate against a person for having a large family or for having a large amount of contacts. You cannot discriminate against anyone concerning their age and this decision is doing both!
Sally
DR. Cleveland, WHAT DID WE DO WRONG? said...
"little Johnny's” new words:
“ . . . That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles, and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and HAPPINESS . . . it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security. . .”
Lloyd
ORIGINAL BLOG:
DR. Cleveland, WHAT DID WE DO WRONG? said...
WHAT DID WE DO WRONG?
I’m going to start this comment here and encourage anyone that would like our graduation to return to THE PIT to add on to this comment if you would like:
I started out this comment with a question. If nobody had raised concerns then we would have never been made to feel like “the bad guy”, like we did something wrong, because I see the stress this is causing my parents and my friends and many others. Something is very wrong here if people in the news media are going to make you feel bad. Anonymous people putting down my fellow graduates calling them “little Johnny” and making fun of his “large family”, telling him his parents and all of us were “hypocrites” for questioning the decision and boasting how American they are and we aren’t! Who could be so important in this great big world to design such a “caste system” type of thinking?
I can tell you this Dr. Cleveland they have motivated me TO TRY EVEN HARDER NOW! We know The Pit is still open for business and the Star Center can break your contract. Just like this person so rudely stated what words “little Johnny” would learn I have learned a few myself, “WE HAVE DONE NOTHING WRONG”!
Class of 2007
April 2, 2007 4:02 PM
To the "ranter" said...
Our Graduate has three (3) generations of over 50 relatives, including his parents and two (2) Brothers that Graduated at “The Pit”.
All of those generations no longer live in NM, but we are tight group.
We participate in Family Reunions and the turnout is huge.
Someone already noted not to penalize large families and this is true.
We need a lot more then six (6) tickets, sorry.
We adhere to the philosophy go forth and multiply, we did and we do.
Now we have an “owned by the casino/center hockey rink” venue to look forward to that is just too small.
We are talking in circles here and I have read and heard enough evidence to confirm the school’s decision is totally wrong and unfair.
Sorry, this inappropriate decision and how it is being forced upon everyone is way, way out of line.
Quoting others here, “we have rights”, “this is America”, hell someone submitted the Declaration of Independence for goodness sake!?
But, they are right!
Because there was no input from everyone, no vote and no Democracy, more like hypocrisy and dictatorship!
There are some classic rebuttals here I have really enjoyed reading them, they all sing the same song when all is said and done.
In support of GO BACK TO THE PIT.
You are the “hypocrite” and so are those you feel you have to protect.
Go "little Johnny", you GO!!
April 2, 2007 5:04 PM
My Graduation 2007 said...
My Graduation 2007
Class Ring - $400 (In Albuquerque)
Announcements/Cap & Gown - $200 (In Albuquerque)
Invitations - $150 (In Albuquerque)
Graduation pictures - $400 (In Albuquerque)
8 family members flying in - $3,600
Graduation party - $2,000
Having my entire family who encouraged me for the last 13 years celebrate with me at
THE PIT.....
PRICELESS!!!
April 2, 2007 5:39 PM
DR. Cleveland, WHAT DID WE DO WRONG? said...
"little Johnny's” new words:
“…Our fathers brought forth on this continent a new nation, conceived in liberty and dedicated to the proposition that all men are created equal”
Rachel
DR. Cleveland, WHAT DID WE DO WRONG? said….
"little Johnny's” new words:
"unintended consequence"
Jose
DR. Cleveland, WHAT DID WE DO WRONG? said….
"little Johnny's” new words:
For the sake of the children
DR. Cleveland, WHAT DID WE DO WRONG? said…
"little Johnny's” new words:
You cannot discriminate against a person for having a large family or for having a large amount of contacts. You cannot discriminate against anyone concerning their age and this decision is doing both!
Sally
DR. Cleveland, WHAT DID WE DO WRONG? said...
"little Johnny's” new words:
“ . . . That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles, and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and HAPPINESS . . . it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security. . .”
Lloyd
ORIGINAL BLOG:
DR. Cleveland, WHAT DID WE DO WRONG? said...
WHAT DID WE DO WRONG?
I’m going to start this comment here and encourage anyone that would like our graduation to return to THE PIT to add on to this comment if you would like:
I started out this comment with a question. If nobody had raised concerns then we would have never been made to feel like “the bad guy”, like we did something wrong, because I see the stress this is causing my parents and my friends and many others. Something is very wrong here if people in the news media are going to make you feel bad. Anonymous people putting down my fellow graduates calling them “little Johnny” and making fun of his “large family”, telling him his parents and all of us were “hypocrites” for questioning the decision and boasting how American they are and we aren’t! Who could be so important in this great big world to design such a “caste system” type of thinking?
I can tell you this Dr. Cleveland they have motivated me TO TRY EVEN HARDER NOW! We know The Pit is still open for business and the Star Center can break your contract. Just like this person so rudely stated what words “little Johnny” would learn I have learned a few myself, “WE HAVE DONE NOTHING WRONG”!
Class of 2007
April 2, 2007 6:22 PM
RE: Mike and Genie Ryan said...
Copy and paste this info below into your browser
You will reach another web log blog titled – “What's Wrong With This Picture?”
Scroll down to the 4TH post titled - Diane Velasco (J-school Piece revised)
Then read about Mr. Mike Ryan, Mike and Genie Ryan are the ones that put us down with their story titled – “Graduation Gripes? Get Over It” here they told us how to raise our children and all about (their) priorities and could not understand why we were still “griping”. Mike, someone already said, “those that fail to learn the lessons of history are doomed to repeat them”. I’d like to hear your side of story before I prejudge you unlike how you and the Mrs. prejudged us in your story:
http://mgbralley-whatswrongwiththispicture.blogspot.com/2006_09_01_mgb
ralley-whatswrongwiththispicture_archive.html
Diane Velasco - A local journalist, as enthused about the use of new technology as she was dismayed by the newsprint world….,
“The (Albuquerque) Journal is the Jurassic Park of journalism,” said Diane Velasco.
“The choice was clear: leave or fossilize," she said. “Journalism has lost its soul.”
She explained that the Journal was using late 1980s computers that could do few things that current technology allows. She resigned on July 4, 2005, in a patriotic act and political gesture reminiscing on the revolutionary press of the mid 1770’s.
Velasco graduated from the University of New Mexico in 1996 with a journalism degree.
She went to work for Publisher Mike Ryan at the Rio Rancho Observer.
As managing editor, and using her business education, she turned a 3 percent loss into a 17 percent profit after only two months on the job.
She did a series of investigative reports on the Rio Rancho School District and exposed 19 fire code violations in the newly built high school, funded by Intel.
She also reported that a high school teacher had raped six students and one teacher.
Velasco infuriated school officials to the point they insisted that any question she had must be forwarded in writing.
Her publisher (Ryan) thought it was OK for school officials to make such a request. (!?)
She then became involved in a First Amendment battle with the assistance of Bob Johnson of the Federation for Open Government and Attorney Bill Dixon.
On three occasions, (Mike) Ryan turned over Velasco’s interview notes to citizens and to “the fat cat millionaires, Don Chalmers and others,” Velasco said.
That she said destroyed the trust that reporters have to develop with sources, especially when the issues are about the sources’ bosses.
Velasco wanted to create a business with a social mission. The Citizen Media Group is more than just an online newspaper; it is also a foundation dedicated to improving the understanding of journalism.
For all that Velasco finds wrong with newspapers, she has tightened traditional thinking about journalistic practices.
Under The Citizen’s policies, “We will use confidential sources whenever necessary to bring important information to the public, and will protect our right to do so to the fullest extent of Constitutional law,” She said.
April 2, 2007 7:57 PM
To The Observer said...
Attn: The Observer,
Your joke was
"underhanded and nasty, at best"
April 2, 2007 9:41 PM
To The Observer said...
Attn: The Observer,
Your joke was
"underhanded and nasty, at best"
BACK TO THE PIT
Darlene
April 2, 2007 9:52 PM
To The Observer said...
Attn: The Observer,
Your joke was
"underhanded and nasty, at best"
BACK TO THE PIT
Lori
April 2, 2007 9:53 PM
To The Observer said...
Attn: The Observer,
Your joke was
"underhanded and nasty, at best"
BACK TO THE PIT
Dennis
April 2, 2007 9:55 PM
TO THE OBSERVER said...
Attn: The Observer,
Your joke was
"underhanded and nasty, at best"
BACK TO THE PIT
Josephine
April 2, 2007 9:56 PM
TO THE OBSERVER said...
Attn: The Observer,
Your joke was
"underhanded and nasty, at best"
BACK TO THE PIT
Cristina
April 2, 2007 9:59 PM
TO THE OBSERVER said...
Attn: The Observer,
Your joke was
"underhanded and nasty, at best"
BACK TO THE PIT
Deb
April 2, 2007 10:01 PM
TO THE OBSERVER said...
Attn: The Observer,
Your joke was
"underhanded and nasty, at best"
BACK TO THE PIT
FLORENCE
April 2, 2007 10:03 PM
TO THE OBSERVER said...
Attn: The Observer,
Your joke was
"underhanded and nasty, at best"
BACK TO THE PIT
Michelle
April 2, 2007 10:04 PM
TO THE OBSERVER said...
Attn: The Observer,
Your joke was
"underhanded and nasty, at best"
BACK TO THE PIT
Kay
April 2, 2007 10:05 PM
Yes RE: Mike and Genie Ryan said...
Copy and paste this info below into your browser
You will reach another web log blog titled – “What's Wrong With This Picture?”
Scroll down to the 4TH post titled - Diane Velasco (J-school Piece revised)
Then read about Mr. Mike Ryan, Mike and Genie Ryan are the ones that put us down with their story titled – “Graduation Gripes? Get Over It” here they told us how to raise our children and all about (their) priorities and could not understand why we were still “griping”. Mike, someone already said, “those that fail to learn the lessons of history are doomed to repeat them”. I’d like to hear your side of story before I prejudge you unlike how you and the Mrs. prejudged us in your story:
http://mgbralley-whatswrongwiththispicture.blogspot.com/2006_09_01_mgb
ralley-whatswrongwiththispicture_archive.html
Diane Velasco - A local journalist, as enthused about the use of new technology as she was dismayed by the newsprint world….,
“The (Albuquerque) Journal is the Jurassic Park of journalism,” said Diane Velasco.
“The choice was clear: leave or fossilize," she said. “Journalism has lost its soul.”
She explained that the Journal was using late 1980s computers that could do few things that current technology allows. She resigned on July 4, 2005, in a patriotic act and political gesture reminiscing on the revolutionary press of the mid 1770’s.
Velasco graduated from the University of New Mexico in 1996 with a journalism degree.
She went to work for Publisher Mike Ryan at the Rio Rancho Observer.
As managing editor, and using her business education, she turned a 3 percent loss into a 17 percent profit after only two months on the job.
She did a series of investigative reports on the Rio Rancho School District and exposed 19 fire code violations in the newly built high school, funded by Intel.
She also reported that a high school teacher had raped six students and one teacher.
Velasco infuriated school officials to the point they insisted that any question she had must be forwarded in writing.
Her publisher (Ryan) thought it was OK for school officials to make such a request. (!?)
She then became involved in a First Amendment battle with the assistance of Bob Johnson of the Federation for Open Government and Attorney Bill Dixon.
On three occasions, (Mike) Ryan turned over Velasco’s interview notes to citizens and to “the fat cat millionaires, Don Chalmers and others,” Velasco said.
That she said destroyed the trust that reporters have to develop with sources, especially when the issues are about the sources’ bosses.
Velasco wanted to create a business with a social mission. The Citizen Media Group is more than just an online newspaper; it is also a foundation dedicated to improving the understanding of journalism.
For all that Velasco finds wrong with newspapers, she has tightened traditional thinking about journalistic practices.
Under The Citizen’s policies, “We will use confidential sources whenever necessary to bring important information to the public, and will protect our right to do so to the fullest extent of Constitutional law,” She said.
April 2, 2007 10:08 PM
TO THE OBSERVER said...
Attn: The Observer,
Your joke was
"underhanded and nasty, at best"
BACK TO THE PIT
Senior 2007
April 2, 2007 10:09 PM
OVER THE NEXT 4 YEARS! said...
REMEMBER THIS DECISION WILL AFFECT ALL GRADUATING SENIORS, THEIR FAMILIES AND LOVED ONES OVER THE NEXT 4 YEARS OR UNTIL THE NEW SCHOOL IS OPEN!
ATTENTION: SENIORS, PARENTS, GUARDIANS, FAMILIES, RELATIVES, STUDENTS AND CONCERNED PERSONS
GREAT NEWS!!
THE PIT IS STILL AVAILABLE ON MAY 19TH
AND THEY WILL NOT BE BOOKING THAT TIME AND DATE FOR ANYONE
IT IS STILL OPEN!!!
We are a group of families that would like to have the Class of 2007 Graduation returned to "THE PIT."
At minimum, let’s put this matter to a fair vote.
We are respectfully asking Dr. Sue Cleveland to make the decision to return to "THE PIT."
RRPS has broken contracts before and can break this contract now and go "BACK TO THE PIT."
We need all persons that want the Graduation to be returned to "THE PIT" to let your voice be heard.
In an unprecedented administrative decision, input was NOT allowed, requested or regarded by everyone affected. Only certain voices were heard.
This last minute decision has affected all of the graduating Seniors for 2007, 2008, 2009 and 2010 along with their families and loved ones.
Due to this last minute decision over 10,000 people will not be able to attend the 2007 graduation.
We have heard all the reasons and explanations given by the administration and strongly feel they do not outweigh the fact that a fair process did not occur in the first place concerning this matter.
Please go online now. We have every right to be heard. "It’s not over till it’s over."
BACK TO THE PIT
FAMILY AND FRIENDS OF RIO RANCHO HIGH SCHOOL GRADUATES DISCUSSION GROUP
Please visit the web log, copy and paste this into your browser
http://rioranchogradsunite.blogspot.com/
You can also email: cmj2nc@aol.com if you have any problems posting comments on the blog, thank you.
April 3, 2007 6:49 AM
URGENT!!! said...
"REMEMBER THIS DECISION WILL AFFECT ALL GRADUATING SENIORS, THEIR FAMILIES AND LOVED ONES OVER THE NEXT 4 YEARS OR UNTIL THE NEW SCHOOL IS OPEN!"
YES, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010 WILL ALL BE AFFECTED!
THAT IS EASILY OVER 40,000 PEOPLE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ATTEND BUT WON'T BE ALLOWED!
BECAUSE EVERY YEAR WILL BE BIGGER THEN THE PREVIOUS YEAR!
Make sure you PASS this on!
Call Yvette 994-9648
Go to the School Board meeting
Monday April 9th at 5 PM
Ivan
April 3, 2007 7:02 AM
Anonymous said...
I AM GOING TO THE COURT HOUSE ON 4/4 TO FILE A CIVAL SUIT AGINST THE SCHOOL AND THE BOARD. I HAVE BEEN STRESSED OUT ENOUGH ABOUT ALL THAT IS GOING ON AND THE LOSS OF MONEY TIME AND EFFORT I HAVE PUT INTO MY CHILD. IT IS NOT ONLY MYSELF THAT IS STRESSED OUT BUT MY ENTIRE FAMILY IS ALSO HAVING A HARD TIME WE TRYING TO DECIDE WHO GETS TO GO I ONLY HAVE 1 TICKET TO GIVE OUT AND THAT IS TRULY UNFAIR. WE DONT NEED A LAWYER OR ATTORNYS FOR THIS BUT IT WOULD BE NICE. BUT TO FILE A CIVIL SUIT JUST GO TO THE COURT HOUSE
April 3, 2007 7:44 AM
Anonymous said...
IF YOU FEEL YOU HAVE BEEN TREATED UNFAIR ABOUT THE SO CALLED VOTE IN MOVING TO THE SANTA ANA CENTER I ENCOURAGE YOU TO FILE A CIVIL SUITE ALSO
April 3, 2007 7:46 AM
Civil Suit said...
Count me in on the civil suit! I’m sick and tired, literally sick over the newspaper’s attitude towards everyone that is questioning this discriminatory decision. Dr. Cleveland is hiding, the board is pointing the finger at the administration, the board president is rude, they did not let everyone provide input, no vote was allowed, 06 was rowdy and 07 gets the punishment, and like the other comment every class from here on out gets punished, plans were already made but Dr. Cleveland does not care! If VonAcken, VonDuncan, VonHerron, whatever the right name is, I don’t know, were booed by the seniors last year, they need to check out why?
Esther G.
April 3, 2007 8:08 AM
ditto Civil Suit said...
Count me in on the civil suit! I’m sick and tired, literally sick over the newspaper’s attitude towards everyone that is questioning this discriminatory decision. Dr. Cleveland is hiding, the board is pointing the finger at the administration, the board president is rude, they did not let everyone provide input, no vote was allowed, 06 was rowdy and 07 gets the punishment, and like the other comment every class from here on out gets punished, plans were already made but Dr. Cleveland does not care! If VonAcken, VonDuncan, VonHerron, whatever the right name is, I don’t know, were booed by the seniors last year, they need to check out why?
Mo
April 3, 2007 8:37 AM
civil suit or sue, sue cleveland said...
I’ve read different people questioning facts and credibility watch out what you write or say etc be nice or don’t be nice don’t do this don’t do that its over and so on and so forth well sports fans “they” have painted us into a corner they are not going to change they are not going to be fair they are not going to let anyone vote get your attorney or file a civil suit
Stan the Man
April 3, 2007 9:00 AM
Petition said...
Mario
April 3, 2007 1:11 PM
SCHOOL BOARD MEETING 4/9 said...
THE SCHOOL BOARD MEETING
Monday April 9 at 5:00 pm
ANYONE THAT CAN ATTEND PLEASE GO
HAVE FAMILY MEMBERS-FRIENDS-ANYONE
WHO WANTS TO SUPPORT THE MOVE TO THE PIT
PLEASE GO
CALL ME IF YOU KNOW FOR SURE THAT YOU ARE GOING TO ATTEND
SO WE CAN ALL GET TOGETHER BEFORE THAT DATE
MY NUMBER AGAIN IS 994-9648
OR EMAIL ME AT nanee_angel@yahoo.com
April 3, 2007 1:22 PM
Back to The Pit said...
Ellen
April 3, 2007 1:31 PM
To Sue Cleveland said...
We will have 6 family members coming from out of town. I'm not apologizing to ANYONE and don’t give damn what those clowns in the newspaper are saying. We are a BIG family and damn proud or it! As for me and my house we disagree with Dr. Cleveland. We request an inquiry to find out why the principal was booed with such fervor. We liked to see the graduation in Rio Rancho but only when the next school has seniors and not before.
Cruz
April 3, 2007 4:33 PM
To Sue Cleveland said...
We all agree and want to go back to The Pit.
What really bothers and concerns me is the open blatant disregard they have for everyone.
Dr. Sue Cleveland is being misled.
What is that actual breakdown culturally of this graduating class, 35 to 40% percent Hispanic?
How is it that they have no concern with all the stress and adversity they have caused to so many, to thousands?
Has the school staff had diversity and sensitivity training?
We cannot give up.
Their decision is discrimination!
It is very obvious politics, power and money are very much involved.
VonAcken was booed, after what I’ve seen it is not hard to see why.
Rose
April 3, 2007 5:34 PM
COURAGE said...
GOD grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change;
COURAGE to change the things I can;
and WISDOM to know the difference.
April 3, 2007 5:47 PM
THE PIT IS RANKED # 13 IN THE WORLD!!! said...
THE PIT IS RANKED # 13 IN THE WORLD!!!
Hey Dr. Cleveland, Sports Illustrated said:
SI's Top 20 Venues of the 20th Century
1 Yankee Stadium
2 Augusta National
3 Michie Stadium
4 Cameron Indoor Stadium
5 Bislett Stadium
6 Wrigley Field
7 Roland Garros
8 Lambeau Field
9 Fenway Park
10 Saratoga Race Course
11 Pebble Beach
12 Wembley Stadium
13 THE PIT
14 Boston Marathon Course
15 Camden Yards
16 Lamade Stadium
17 Daytona International Speedway
18 Notre Dame Stadium
19 St. Andrews
20 Rose Bowl
Others mentioned in no particular order,
BUT TAKE A LOOK AT THESE OTHER NAMES!:
Boston Garden
Taylor Field
Yost Ice Arena
Indianapolis Motor Speedway
Memorial Stadium
The Melbourne Cricket Ground
The Palestra
Husky Stadium
The Montreal Forum
Michigan Stadium
Madison Square Garden
Patterson Field
The Maracana Stadium
Lord's cricket ground
The San Siro
Wimbledon
Monte Carlo
LSU Tiger Stadium
Beaver Stadium
Allen Fieldhouse
Jordan-Hare Stadium
The Forum
Mile High Stadium
Tiger Stadium
April 3, 2007 6:49 PM
To Dr. Cleveland said...
Our family agrees with the Petition,
Enrique
April 3, 2007 8:06 PM
To Dr. Cleveland said...
In support of the Petition to return the graduation.
Joel
April 3, 2007 8:15 PM
To Dr. Cleveland said...
This decision is affecting over 40,000 that can’t attend over the next four years.
10,000 can’t go to the graduation this year.
Take it back.
Donnie
April 3, 2007 8:16 PM
To Dr. Cleveland said...
Go back to the Pit.
Lizzie
April 3, 2007 8:16 PM
To Dr. Cleveland said...
Foul -Dr. Cleveland!
Aaron
April 3, 2007 8:17 PM
To Dr. Cleveland said...
Hello NO we won’t go!!!
Kelly
April 3, 2007 8:17 PM
To Dr. Cleveland said...
Dr. Cleveland,
Read the comments and change this back.
Veronica
April 3, 2007 8:18 PM
To Dr. Cleveland said...
Dr. Cleveland,
For the sake of our children!
Kathleen
April 3, 2007 8:19 PM
To Dr. Cleveland said...
To RRPS,
This has discrimination written all over it.
Teddy
April 3, 2007 8:19 PM
To Dr. Cleveland said...
Why is this so important?
The decision - not only affects this years graduates, families and loved ones, it also will affect all graduates, families and loved ones for 2008, 2009 and 2010 and until the new school has graduating seniors!
Consider the numbers of people affected!
Carla
April 3, 2007 8:28 PM
To Dr. Cleveland said...
Let's GO
Tish
April 3, 2007 8:31 PM
For the sake of our children! said...
For the sake of our children!
Marcus
April 3, 2007 8:36 PM
For the sake of our children! said...
For the sake of our children!
Eloy
April 3, 2007 8:36 PM
For the sake of our children! said...
For the sake of our children!
Jordan
April 3, 2007 8:37 PM
For the sake of our children! said...
Dr. Cleveland,
For the sake of our children!
April 3, 2007 8:38 PM
Anonymous said...
Dr. Cleveland,
For the sake of our children!
April 3, 2007 8:38 PM
For the sake of our children! said...
Dr. Cleveland,
For the sake of our children!
Lisa
April 3, 2007 8:38 PM
For the sake of our children! said...
Dr. Cleveland,
For the sake of our children!
Mary
April 3, 2007 8:39 PM
I LIKE THIS COMMENT said...
My Graduation 2007
Class Ring - $400 (In Albuquerque)
Announcements/Cap & Gown - $200 (In Albuquerque)
Invitations - $150 (In Albuquerque)
Graduation pictures - $400 (In Albuquerque)
8 family members flying in - $3,600
Graduation party - $2,000
Having my entire family who encouraged me for the last 13 years celebrate with me at
THE PIT.....
PRICELESS!!!
April 3, 2007 8:54 PM
We are not enemies said...
~ We are not enemies,
But friends.
We must not be enemies.
Though passion may have strained
It must not break our bonds of affection.
The mystic chords of memory . . .
. . . Will yet swell
When again touched,
As surely they will be,
By the better Angels of our Nature ~
April 3, 2007 8:56 PM
Anonymous said...
back to the pit
April 4, 2007 6:27 AM
SCHOOL BOARD MEETING 4/9 said...
Call Yvette 994-9648
THE SCHOOL BOARD MEETING
Monday April 9 at 5:00 pm
ANYONE THAT CAN ATTEND PLEASE GO
HAVE FAMILY MEMBERS-FRIENDS-ANYONE
WHO WANTS TO SUPPORT THE MOVE TO THE PIT
PLEASE GO
CALL ME IF YOU KNOW FOR SURE THAT YOU ARE GOING TO ATTEND
SO WE CAN ALL GET TOGETHER BEFORE THAT DATE
MY NUMBER AGAIN IS 994-9648
OR EMAIL ME AT nanee_angel@yahoo.com
April 4, 2007 6:29 AM
Gidge said...
Thanks to all the students and parents who have been working so hard to fight this injustice! Special Thanks to Yvette! Graduation is a huge accomplishment and what better way to share such a special moment than to have your friends and family THERE with you. It's been done that way for generations and the Pit has provided that special opportunity for our graduates all these years. The school board somehow missed that very important point when making their decision. They should have done their homework BEFORE a decision like this was made. They need to back up and ask every graduate what they want, and if the majority want it at the Pit, they need to fix their mistake and move it back. They still have plenty of time. It needs to be resolved the right way, right away!
Gidget Anaya
April 4, 2007 8:05 AM
To Dr. Cleveland said...
Hello Ema Dreher (Dr. Clevelands's secretary),
We have been writing you since 3/14.
Please be respectfully advised this is easily our 7th request to Dr. Cleveland, we asked back on 3/14 to speak to Dr. Cleveland and for these questions to be answered. We already know what anyone below her is going to say, so we have already tried that avenue that was suggested. We consider this a stall tactic at this time. We don't need to hear from your other staff or anyone at the High School. We don't need the "lock-step" comment that is being given to other families and the media. We already know how disrespectful, the school board president has been to others. We want Dr. Cleveland please, thank you. We are very aware of other persons that have asked to speak with her on other matters, so we know that we can request to speak to her. We will be respectful but we are becoming agitated with being handed off to some one else, we want Dr. Cleveland, thank you.
Hello Ema Dreher (Dr. Clevelands's secretary),
Questions, please answer them individually, also, please note that there are multiple questions within the same number so don't miss those questions, thank you.
TIME SENSITIVE:
34. How soon can we speak directly to Dr. Cleveland on this matter, we would like to know her next available appointment, we are asking for an appointment, may I have more then one time frame as I will have to take time off for this?
1. Can a person(s) bring this matter to the board's attention again at the next or another board meeting and if not why not?
2. What is the process to ask for a special School Board meeting and if not why not?
3. As parents, what are our legal rights regarding the way this matter was handled?
4. How do we get a copy of our rights?
5. Can we speak to the school's attorney and if so whom would we contact?
6. It is our understanding this matter/decision was never tabled, voted on or decided by the School Board, who then by name(s) made this decision?
7. Per your response the School Board has not ruled or voted on the public comment on 3/12?
8. Regarding the contract, was there a contract with "The Pit"? "The Pit": Is in the senior agenda book, it was stated by Mr. VonAncken at senior meetings, it is on RRPS Website, it will STILL be on the announcements from Jostens? Prior to March 07 RRPS had a written or verbal contract with "The Pit", otherwise none of this would be accurate?
9. Dr. Cleveland or Mr. VonAncken is quoted as stating "many" persons wanted this changed from "The Pit" how many is "many"?
10. Does Dr. Cleveland and the board all realize that there are "many" more that want this at "The Pit"? That is a fact.
11. Dr. Cleveland in the media is quoted as saying that she wants the money spent in Rio Rancho, is she aware that Jostens in not in Rio Rancho and neither is Kim Jews? And a lot more then $8,000 is being spent there with Jostens and Kim Jews. Does she realize with all the accessories, pictures etc. that easily $500,000 give or take a few, will be spent in Albuquerque, just do the math per the cost involved? To say students don't have to go to these businesses is true, but fact is "many" went to them, we did.
12. Exactly how much money was quote "saved", because "The Pit" was $7,000 and the Star location is $6,300. Is Dr. Cleveland aware that each seat at the Star location costs more the each seat at "The Pit"? Is she aware we are paying more for less?
13. How many students are graduating, we have been told 770?
14. How many seats will be available we have been told 4,500?
15. Mr. VonAncken stated that he will have 1,000 extra tickets is that true?
16. Does that mean the location is being expanded to 5,500? We have been told that the max will be 4,500, then no one will have an extra 1,000 tickets?
17. Is Dr. Cleveland aware "The Pit" will hold 15,000 for this graduation and that is about how many came last year? They had to allow people to sit in the closed section so many people came.
18. Does Dr. Cleveland realize that this new location will only hold 4,500 persons and that 6 times 750 is 4,500, that would me over 10,000+ persons that would have normally come to this graduation, the proof is the previous year's numbers as well as the numbers that turned out for the APS graduations, so these figures/estimates are not manufactured? And does she know all this means tickets will be scarce? Does she realize no matter even when we all call Mr. VonAncken for tickets he will have a very limited amount or no tickets at all?
19. Does Dr. Cleveland realize that the process to pass out any extra tickets is unfair, regardless of what other districts have done I have had first hand experience with some of the other district's method, it is unfair? Does she realize even now, the persons with the biggest network of friends will be able to secure tickets at a better advantage then the persons that do not have a large network of friends? Seniors are supposed to secure their own tickets from other seniors, this what was told to Rod Green of KOAT, does she realize the stress, time and energy that is being spent on this? Shouldn't seniors be concentrating on other matters? Does she realize along with her staff that there are other discounted variables that come into play here, mostly leading to an unfair process? Persons with the right connections will have a better chance, "not what you know, its who you know", that happens every year in other districts? "The squeaky wheel gets the grease". Simply, in theory sounds ok, but the process is never fair.
18. Does Dr. Cleveland realize some persons are offering to sell their tickets as this has created a "scalping" situation?
19. For arguments sake, lets say 50 percent are not being allowed to come, Dr. Cleveland can't see how serious that is? That discounts a whole bunch of people that would have come?
20. So whether it is 50% or 75% not being allowed to celebrate and actually see the graduation, does Dr. Cleveland in her ability to be fair, see how much stress this is placing on families? Is she aware our state is among the highest in the country for dropouts and suicides!?
21. Is this the largest Rio Rancho graduating class ever?
22. Does Dr. Cleveland see how extremely unfair this late notice is to everyone involved especially because plans were already made, money spent?
23. Does Dr. Cleveland realize the Jostens announcements will still have "The Pit" on it and this will be tacky?
24. Does Dr. Cleveland realize that parents will have to put their own insert in the announcement in order to un-confuse the recipient? That is true there will be two inserts now, one from Jostens and one from the parents. If the parents choose not to add their own insert it will be that much more confusing.
25. Does Dr. Cleveland realize that this will now cause us to cancel that order and re-order with someone else, does she realize that this is time consuming and has interrupted lives, it has ours?
26. Who is paying for Jostens' insert? We heard Jostens is "eating" the cost? We were told by Mr. Duncan that he was paying for it "out of his own pocket"? Which story is the truth?
27. What about the real crux of this matter in which last years graduation got rowdy, does Dr. Cleveland understand this year’s class is being penalized?
28. The administration advised the media that "all of the concerns were taken into consideration", does Dr. Cleveland realize that the not ALL the concerns were considered before the decision was made and that if we really consider everything, I mean everything, this entire process was very unfair?
29. Does Dr. Cleveland realize not all parents know about this change yet? Fact, we never received a letter we happened to catch it on the news? This is far from over. Contract or no contract this is not over.
30. Why can't we have a vote with all parents, guardians and seniors now? We can do it now and put this all to rest, why not, is there too much politics involved regarding this?
31. Why didn't we have a vote and input from EVERYONE in the first place? Certain persons complained as you stated and the matter was set in stone without everyone's input, yes? Does she not see how unfair that is?
32. If you are going to hold onto the contract explanation that won't hold water, they know they are going to get your business down the road anyway? If not, what will be the cost if you break your contract with them? Hasn't the district broken other contracts for other matters before? Go back to "The Pit", could you charge $1.00 or .75 cents a body, look how much you would save? Not only would you payoff "The Pit" and security, you would have enough for next year too?
33. Each School Board member is sworn in by a judge and their oath of service maintains they must uphold the Constitution of the United States as well as the school's, isn't this a direct violation of "due process", fair process, or any equal and "good faith" standards that adhere to our Constitution and what they were founded on? I have personally heard that Dr. Cleveland is "fair" and we are absolutely counting on that in this matter.
34. How soon can we speak directly to Dr. Cleveland on this matter, we would like to know her next available appointment, we are asking for an appointment, may I have more then one time frame as I will have to take time off for this?
Thank you again
April 4, 2007 8:32 AM
DO YOUR HOMEWORK RRPS! said...
How many times have our seniors heard this in their lifetime,
"Do your homework"?
"They should have done their homework BEFORE a decision like this was made. They need to back up and ask every graduate what they want, and if the majority want it at the Pit, they need to fix their mistake and move it back. They still have plenty of time. It needs to be resolved the right way, right away!"
Ruben
April 4, 2007 8:36 AM
Gidget Anaya said...
Gidget Anaya,
What is your email address?
April 4, 2007 9:00 AM
Carmela Rael said...
My husband, son and I would like to add our signatures to the petition. My nephew is graduating and I would be really disappointed if we couldn't be there to see it in person, not on TV.
Carmela Rael
cbrael@msn.com
Patrick Rael
prrael@msn.com
Jered Cervantes
jered2011@msn.com
April 4, 2007 10:32 AM
TO DR. CLEVELAND said...
RRPS,
Your decision is discrimination! To the Pit!
Zeke
April 4, 2007 11:48 AM
Gidge said...
gidget_anaya@netzero.net
April 4, 2007 12:15 PM
YARAGON said...
WE WANT EVERYONE TO KNOW THAT THIS IS STILL GOING VERY STRONG AND DONT WANT YOU TO THINK THIS IS OVER IT SEEMS SOME OF YOU ARE GETTING DISCOURAGED AND THINK THAT THIS IS A DONE DEAL BUT IT IS NOT PLEASE MAKE SURE TO SIGN THE PETITION GOING AROUND SCHOOL AND IF YOU DO NOT WANT TO DO IT AT SCHOOL CALL ME AND I WILL MEET YOU SOME WHERE ELSE TO DO IT AGAIN REMEMBER THEY WANT YOU TO THINK IT IS DOING NO GOOD TO CONTINUE TO FIGHT BUT WE STILL HAVE A CHANCE AND REMEMBER THAT THE SCHOOL BOARD MEETING IS ON MONDAY AND WE NEED ALL THE SUPPORT WE CAN GET IT IS AT 5 PM ON MONDAY THE 9 TH AT THE RIO RANCHO DISTRICT OFFICE IF YOU NEED DIRECTIONS CALL ME MY NUMBER AGAIN IS 994-9648 OR EMAIL ME A nanee_angel@yahoo.com WE ARE ALSO LOOKING FOR ANYONE WHO WANTS TO HELP US THIS WEEKEND FOR MORE INFO CALL ONCE AGAIN WE WANT THE PIT!
April 4, 2007 12:31 PM
Anonymous said...
Why the resistance to moving graduation to the Pit to accommodate the students / parents wishes? The people paying into the school system have spoken, just like the people paying in to any $$$ reaped by the school board have spoken. Listen to your constituents!
April 4, 2007 2:22 PM
Constituents! said...
Great comment!
Reminds me:
"Is you is or is you ain't my 'constituents'!"
Marie
April 4, 2007 2:28 PM
Harley said...
Back to the Pit
April 4, 2007 5:18 PM
Seniors said...
No to to the Star Center
April 4, 2007 6:05 PM
Hate said...
Regarding bad press about anyone speaking out against this decision:
Hate speech is a controversial term for speech intended to degrade, intimidate, or incite violence or prejudicial action against a person or group of people based on their race, gender, age, ethnicity, nationality, religion, sexual orientation, gender identity, disability, language ability, moral or political views, socioeconomic class, occupation or appearance (such as height, weight, and hair color). The term covers written as well as oral communication and some forms of behaviors in a public setting. It is also sometimes called antilocution and is the first point on Allport's scale which measures prejudice in a society.
April 4, 2007 6:12 PM
To Dr. Cleveland said...
I'm very sorry about the problems from last year's graduation but this just proves you have something VERY WRONG going on at the high school. I’m NOT surprised that the administration was booed last year after you consider this decision you imposed.
Investigate why the principal was booed but don’t punish our Seniors for last year’s problem.
Rita
April 4, 2007 6:16 PM
“victims of political posturing” said...
The “Victims of political posturing” would like to return to THE PIT!
April 4, 2007 6:31 PM
26 or 2,600 or 26,000 said...
We want the graduation at the Pit!
April 4, 2007 8:28 PM
26 signed said...
Frank,
How many people signed the Declaration of Independence?
Jeff
April 4, 2007 8:57 PM
26 signed said...
Jeff,
I'm not really sure, I heard 26 that signed were Attorney's.
Frank
April 4, 2007 8:59 PM
26 signed said...
True,
26 were Attorney's
Sue
April 4, 2007 9:00 PM
26 or 2,600 or 26,000 or 260,000 or 260,000,000 said...
We want the graduation at the Pit!
Truly amazing the impact 26 signatures have had on the world!
Jim
April 4, 2007 9:06 PM
the price they paid said...
"The Fifty Six Men who Signed
the Declaration of Independence
Have you ever wondered what happened to the fifty-six men who signed the Declaration of Independence? Five signers were captured by the British as traitors, and tortured before they died. Twelve had their homes ransacked and burned. Two lost their sons serving in the Revolutionary Army; another had two sons captured. Nine of the fixity six fought and died from wounds or hardships of the Revolutionary War. They signed and they pledged their lives, their fortunes, and their sacred honor.
What kind of men were they?
Twenty-six were lawyers and jurists. Eleven were merchants, nine were farmers and large plantation owners; men of means, well educated. But they signed the Declaration of Independence knowing full well death would be the cost if captured. Carter Braxton of Virginia, a wealthy planter and trader, saw his ships swept from the seas by the British Navy. He sold his home and properties to pay his debts, and died in rags.
Thomas McKean was so hounded by the British that he was forced to move his family almost constantly. He served in the Congress without pay, and his family was kept in hiding. His possessions were taken from him, and poverty was his reward.
Vandals or soldiers looted the properties of Dillery, Hall, Clymer, Walton, Gwinnett, Heyward, Ruttledge, and Middleton.
At the battle of Yorktown, Thomas Nelson Jr. noted that the British General Cornwallis had taken over the Nelson home for his headquarters. He quietly urged General George Washington to open fire. The home was destroyed, and Nelson died bankrupt.
Francis Lewis had his home and properties destroyed. The enemy jailed his wife, and she died within a few months.
John Hart was driven from his wife's bedside as she was dying. Their thirteen children fled for their lives. His fields and his gristmill were laid to waste. For more than a year he lived in forests and caves, returning home to find his wife dead and his children vanished. A few weeks later he died from exhaustion and a broken heart.
Norris and Livingston suffered similar fates.
Such were the stories and sacrifices of the American Revolution. These were not wild-eyed, rabble-rousing ruffians. They were soft-spoken men of means and education.
They had security, but they valued liberty more. Standing tall, straight, and unwavering, they pledged: "For the support of this declaration, with firm reliance on the protection of divine providence, we mutually pledge to each other, our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor."
They gave you and me a free and independent America. The history books never told you a lot about what happened in the Revolutionary War. We didn't fight just the British. We were British subjects at that time and we fought our own government!
Some of us take these liberties so much for granted, but we shouldn't. So, take a few minutes this year while enjoying your 4th of July holiday and silently thank these patriots. It's not much to ask for the price they paid".
Merle
April 4, 2007 9:13 PM
Anonymous said...
With the 26 of you continually giving it your very best over and over again, I won’t be surprised that you've become part of something positive here in Rio Rancho, the city of vision, for the next 4 graduating classes.
We applaud your efforts and encourage RRPS to return to The PIT.
April 4, 2007 9:19 PM
LETS NOT BE PREJUDICE said...
DR. CLEVELAND,
THIS IS THE LARGEST GRADUATING CLASS IN RIO RANCHO HISTORY AND THE LARGEST CLASS IN THE STATE.
TO PLACE THE LARGEST CLASS IN A SMALLER VENUE IS NOT A WELL THOUGHT OUT PLAN AT THIS LATE NOTICE NO MATTER WHAT THE LOGIC.
IT CLEARLY DISCRIMINATES AGAINST PEOPLE WITH "LARGE FAMILIES" AND PROHIBITS ANYONE ELSE THEY KNOW FROM BEING ABLE TO COME.
MY DAY REALLY GOES BY, THERE IS NOT ENOUGH TIME IN THE DAY.
FOR ANYONE OUT OF THEIR BUSY SCHEDULE TO WANT TO GO TO A "HIGH SCHOOL GRADUATION" REALLY WANTS TO GO.
SORRY TO HEAR ABOUT 06.
LETS NOT BE PREJUDICE HERE.
IF SOMEONE WANTS TO GO THEN THAT IS UP TO THEM.
HIGHER EXTRA GUARDS.
CHANGE THIS BACK.
THANK YOU,
Jeremy
April 4, 2007 10:22 PM
Anonymous said...
I'm not going to any gambling dens and neither is anyone else in my family. As far as I'm concerned, they can mail my son's diploma to him.
Boycott the casino graduation!!!!
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April 4, 2007 10:26 PM
Matches Malone said...
i'll see ya' all at 1
April 4, 2007 10:31 PM
Moses Malone said...
Fo'
Fo'
Fo'
Won't take no sh_ _t,
let's go back to The Pit!
April 4, 2007 10:34 PM
SCHOOL BOARD MEETING 4/9 said...
Call Yvette 994-9648
THE SCHOOL BOARD MEETING
Monday April 9 at 5:00 pm
ANYONE THAT CAN ATTEND PLEASE GO
HAVE FAMILY MEMBERS-FRIENDS-ANYONE
WHO WANTS TO SUPPORT THE MOVE TO THE PIT
PLEASE GO
CALL ME IF YOU KNOW FOR SURE THAT YOU ARE GOING TO ATTEND
SO WE CAN ALL GET TOGETHER BEFORE THAT DATE
MY NUMBER AGAIN IS 994-9648
OR EMAIL ME AT nanee_angel@yahoo.com
April 5, 2007 6:28 AM
The Observer said...
Dr. C;eveland,
I wonder how this will affect my graduation?
Marsha
Editor:
For weeks I had been telling friends about the then-upcoming Rio Rancho Pork & Brew, and how much I was looking forward to all that yummy BBQ.
So, even though parking was reported to be limited this year at the Star Center, off I drove to get my fill. Once on Paseo del Volcan, however, I saw 40 or so cars, backed up in both directions, waiting to turn onto the two-lane access road.
Sadly, I drove on past, returning home with my taste buds, not my tail, between my legs.
While poor access to the event center has been discussed at length, I still have trouble understanding how we could spend (more than) $40 million to build the place without having adequate access roads completed at the same time. Now that the Star Center has been open all these months, shouldn't those planning shortfalls have been corrected by now? How can we expect the center to be a success if we limit attendance due to access frustrations?
The city manager responsible for overseeing the planning process should be fired. Oh, wait. He already was.
April 5, 2007 6:38 AM
To Dr. Cleveland said...
We are
The “Victims of political posturing”
Roland
April 5, 2007 7:56 AM
To RRPS said...
Our family agrees with the petition
Mack
April 5, 2007 10:41 AM
English class said...
As learned in my English class:
Half a league, half a league,
Half a league onward,
All to district office
Rode the six hundred.
'Forward, the Light Brigade!
Rode the six hundred.
Their's not to make reply,
Their's not to reason why,
Their's but to do and why:
Into district office
Rode the six hundred.
The Observer to right of them,
The Ryan’s to left of them,
VonAncken in front of them
Into the jaws
Into the mouth of RRPS
Rode the six hundred.
Honour the charge they made!
Honour the Light Brigade,
Noble six hundred!
ALT
April 5, 2007 11:00 AM
Town Hall Meeting said...
For Immediate Release
April 5, 2007
RIO RANCHO, NM - Rio Rancho Mayor Kevin M. Jackson will hold his first town
hall meeting on Thursday, April 12, 2007 from 7:00PM to 8:00PM in the
Governing Body Chambers located in Rio Rancho City Hall.
Mayor Jackson will provide updates regarding the recently concluded New
Mexico State Legislative Session and information about the City's new
Central Business District. Mayor Jackson will also address questions that
are submitted by the audience.
"I encourage residents to attend this town hall meeting. Two-way
communication between citizens and government is critical. I believe this
town hall meeting will provide a unique opportunity to hear from residents
regarding issues relevant to our City as well as providing valuable updates
to the community," said Mayor Jackson.
The town hall meeting will be open to the public. For more information
residents may call 505-896-8727 or via e-mail at
feedbackform@ci.rio-rancho.nm.us
April 5, 2007 12:43 PM
NICE!!! said...
Nice!!!
NO way Jose!
RRPS break your contract and go back to The Pit!
Brian
April 5, 2007 3:34 PM
To Dr. Cleveland said...
Thank you to all those families keeping this graduation alive!
Gregory
April 5, 2007 6:26 PM
Dr. Cleveland said...
We are praying for this decision to be resolved.
The local newspaper has already taken sides and unfairly characterizes anyone that disagrees with the decision.
Anyone that disagrees with the decision does not need to be ridiculed for thinking differently. They should not be categorized as less American. They had nothing to do with last years crowd. They don’t need lessons on raising children from people who have a column in the newspaper. Or lessons in what a cruel “woild” we live in, or “buck up.”
The newspapers should have their top reporter in the face of district office asking hard questions, like how come everyone was not allowed to voice their opinions? Is there political pressure and by whom? Why did the principal get booed? Is this discrimination? Does this in fact affect our Hispanic families?
They actually told families 10 years old and younger that they can’t celebrate. Yes they recommend that young people can’t see an event with their own eyes even though it is actually positive reinforcement. Remember our state tops the charts in suicides and dropouts. They literally called fellow “Ranchoans, whiners, greedy and to get over it.”
Funny is funny but the April Fool’s deal was “underhanded and nasty” quoting the newspaper.
Belinda
April 5, 2007 7:43 PM
To Dr. Sue Cleveland said...
“Everyone has already heard the arguments for and against returning the graduation ceremony to The Pit so there’s no reason to spend a lot of time rehashing what’s already been said. The only issue left to be decided is what most of the parents want to do. We believe that most of the parents want the ceremony to be held in The Pit. So our only request is that you authorize a vote so that we can see what the parents want. If most of them want to hold the ceremony at the Star Center, then we should hold it at the Star Center; if most of the parents want to return to the Pit, then that’s what we should do. If you feel you can’t authorize a vote, then the only fair decision is to return the ceremony to The Pit given that the decision was made without sufficient public input.
Further, the decision to move the ceremony to the Star Center disproportionately inconveniences larger families, many of whom happen to be Hispanic.”
KW
April 5, 2007 8:39 PM
"The proof is in the pudding" said...
"The proof is in the pudding"
When you take everything all of the reasons pro and con, this was done wrong.
Go Back to The PIT
Matt
April 5, 2007 9:26 PM
The Pit said...
I want the graduation to return to the best location to have it, The Pit
Annie
April 5, 2007 9:31 PM
Great website said...
A website to get the gradution changed that is really wonderful!
Great thinking!
Phyl
April 5, 2007 9:38 PM
To the good Doctor said...
Read the comments Dr. Cleveland call off your mistake.
Jaz
April 5, 2007 9:51 PM
Ode to JOY! said...
Ode to JOY!
Let's Rock this function out!
Hailey
April 5, 2007 9:53 PM
Humpty said...
All the king's horses and all the king's men could not put Dr. Cleveland together again.
Pssssst Sue, they gave you's BAD advice, there ain't no WMD's "whining Mexican dudes"!
LET MY PEOPLE GOOOOO!
This is goin' to wreck your career..stop now!
Arturo
April 5, 2007 10:01 PM
SCHOOL BOARD MEETING 4/9 said...
SCHOOL BOARD MEETING 4/9
Call Yvette 994-9648
THE SCHOOL BOARD MEETING
Monday April 9 at 5:00 pm
ANYONE THAT CAN ATTEND PLEASE GO
HAVE FAMILY MEMBERS-FRIENDS-ANYONE
WHO WANTS TO SUPPORT THE MOVE TO THE PIT
PLEASE GO
CALL ME IF YOU KNOW FOR SURE THAT YOU ARE GOING TO ATTEND
SO WE CAN ALL GET TOGETHER BEFORE THAT DATE
MY NUMBER AGAIN IS 994-9648
OR EMAIL ME AT nanee_angel@yahoo.com
April 6, 2007 6:45 AM
All 2007 SENIORS!!! said...
Change our graduation Back
All 2007 SENIORS!!!
April 6, 2007 7:15 AM
Alex said...
Go Back to THE PIT
April 6, 2007 7:33 AM
John and Paul said...
And in the end the love you take.....
April 6, 2007 11:10 AM
John, Paul, George and Ringo said...
That is right!
Even the Beatles wrote "Get Back",
we need to take that advice and get back!
OH YEAH!!!!
April 6, 2007 11:16 AM
Shout OUT! said...
This is a little Shout Out to Doctor Cleveland.
Dr., you and all the teachers have taught us, and taught us well.
This is not at all fair, please do the right thing and go back to the Pit.
The Class of 2007 RULES!!
April 6, 2007 11:18 AM
He said She said said...
He said She said,
Dr. Cleveland, We are a family of four, and we are ok on tickets. I just got off the phone with another family who said some parents met with you today. What prompted me to write this now is, we are running out of time.
The actual seniors graduating and their families are the ones that should be allowed to vote.
We are getting shorter on time, I could not be there today due to work and I really applaud those that could get there.
I will talk with them directly tonight when I am off work. This has really hurt families. The newspaper is cruel.
I have now heard pretty much all the reasons and you have been told over and over how this has been dealt is wrong, unfair and discriminatory.
One side is trying to explain and justify and using their efforts to keep this in Rio Rancho.
The other side is being put down for speaking up.
And I agree with this email:
Surely we have legal rights?
Each School Board member is sworn in by a judge and their oath of service maintains they must uphold the Constitution of the United States as well as the school's, isn't this a direct violation of "due process", fair process, or any equal and "good faith" standards that adhere to our Constitution and what they were founded on? I have personally heard that Dr. Cleveland is "fair" and we are absolutely counting on that in this matter.
“Everyone has already heard the arguments for and against returning the graduation ceremony to The Pit so there’s no reason to spend a lot of time rehashing what’s already been said. The only issue left to be decided is what most of the parents want to do. We believe that most of the parents want the ceremony to be held in The Pit. So our only request is that you authorize a vote so that we can see what the parents want. If most of them want to hold the ceremony at the Star Center, then we should hold it at the Star Center; if most of the parents want to return to the Pit, then that’s what we should do. If you feel you can’t authorize a vote, then the only fair decision is to return the ceremony to The Pit given that the decision was made without sufficient public input.
Further, the decision to move the ceremony to the Star Center disproportionately inconveniences larger families, many of whom happen to be Hispanic.”
I understand this was given to you, well, do the right thing Dr. Cleveland.
Aggie.
April 6, 2007 11:58 AM
Anonymous said...
I agree with this email:
Surely we have legal rights?
Each School Board member is sworn in by a judge and their oath of service maintains they must uphold the Constitution of the United States as well as the school's, isn't this a direct violation of "due process", fair process, or any equal and "good faith" standards that adhere to our Constitution and what they were founded on? I have personally heard that Dr. Cleveland is "fair" and we are absolutely counting on that in this matter.
Alonzo
April 6, 2007 12:48 PM
Calvin said...
“Everyone has already heard the arguments for and against returning the graduation ceremony to The Pit so there’s no reason to spend a lot of time rehashing what’s already been said. The only issue left to be decided is what most of the parents want to do. We believe that most of the parents want the ceremony to be held in The Pit. So our only request is that you authorize a vote so that we can see what the parents want. If most of them want to hold the ceremony at the Star Center, then we should hold it at the Star Center; if most of the parents want to return to the Pit, then that’s what we should do. If you feel you can’t authorize a vote, then the only fair decision is to return the ceremony to The Pit given that the decision was made without sufficient public input.
Further, the decision to move the ceremony to the Star Center disproportionately inconveniences larger families, many of whom happen to be Hispanic.”
April 6, 2007 12:50 PM
To Dr. Sue Cleveland said...
“Everyone has already heard the arguments for and against returning the graduation ceremony to The Pit so there’s no reason to spend a lot of time rehashing what’s already been said. The only issue left to be decided is what most of the parents want to do. We believe that most of the parents want the ceremony to be held in The Pit. So our only request is that you authorize a vote so that we can see what the parents want. If most of them want to hold the ceremony at the Star Center, then we should hold it at the Star Center; if most of the parents want to return to the Pit, then that’s what we should do. If you feel you can’t authorize a vote, then the only fair decision is to return the ceremony to The Pit given that the decision was made without sufficient public input.
Further, the decision to move the ceremony to the Star Center disproportionately inconveniences larger families, many of whom happen to be Hispanic.”
Attention: Seniors, Parents, Guardians, Families, Relatives, Students and concerned persons
REMEMBER THIS DECISION WILL AFFECT ALL GRADUATING SENIORS, THEIR FAMILIES AND LOVED ONES NOW 2007 & OVER THE NEXT 4 YEARS OR UNTIL THE NEW SCHOOL IS OPEN!
GREAT NEWS!!
THE PIT IS STILL AVAILABLE ON MAY 19TH
AND THEY WILL NOT BE BOOKING THAT TIME AND DATE FOR ANYONE
IT IS STILL OPEN!!!
Please visit the web log, copy and paste this into your browser
http://rioranchogradsunite.blogspot.com/
You can also email: cmj2nc@aol.com if you have any problems posting comments on the blog, thank you.
We are a group of families that would like to have the Class of 2007 Graduation returned to "The PIT."
At minimum, let’s put this matter to a fair vote.
We are respectfully asking Dr. Sue Cleveland to make the decision to return to "The PIT."
RRPS has broken contracts before and can break this contract now and go "BACK TO THE PIT."
We need all persons that want the Graduation to be returned to "The PIT" to let your voice be heard.
In an unprecedented administrative decision, input was NOT allowed, requested or regarded by everyone affected. Only certain voices were heard.
This last minute decision has affected all of the graduating Seniors for 2007, 2008, 2009 and 2010 along with their families and loved ones.
Due to this last minute decision over 10,000 people will not be able to attend the 2007 graduation.
We have heard all the reasons and explanations given by the administration and strongly feel they do not outweigh the fact that a fair process did not occur in the first place concerning this matter.
Please go online now. We have every right to be heard. "It’s not over till it’s over."
BACK TO the Pit
FAMILY AND friends of Rio Rancho High School graduates DISCUSSION GROUP
Please visit the web log, copy and paste this into your browser
http://rioranchogradsunite.blogspot.com/
You can also email: cmj2nc@aol.com if you have any problems posting comments on the blog, thank you
April 6, 2007 1:26 PM
Marcos said...
“Everyone has already heard the arguments for and against returning the graduation ceremony to The Pit so there’s no reason to spend a lot of time rehashing what’s already been said. The only issue left to be decided is what most of the parents want to do. We believe that most of the parents want the ceremony to be held in The Pit. So our only request is that you authorize a vote so that we can see what the parents want. If most of them want to hold the ceremony at the Star Center, then we should hold it at the Star Center; if most of the parents want to return to the Pit, then that’s what we should do. If you feel you can’t authorize a vote, then the only fair decision is to return the ceremony to The Pit given that the decision was made without sufficient public input.
Further, the decision to move the ceremony to the Star Center disproportionately inconveniences larger families, many of whom happen to be Hispanic.”
April 6, 2007 1:38 PM
Zach said...
“Everyone has already heard the arguments for and against returning the graduation ceremony to The Pit so there’s no reason to spend a lot of time rehashing what’s already been said. The only issue left to be decided is what most of the parents want to do. We believe that most of the parents want the ceremony to be held in The Pit. So our only request is that you authorize a vote so that we can see what the parents want. If most of them want to hold the ceremony at the Star Center, then we should hold it at the Star Center; if most of the parents want to return to the Pit, then that’s what we should do. If you feel you can’t authorize a vote, then the only fair decision is to return the ceremony to The Pit given that the decision was made without sufficient public input.
Further, the decision to move the ceremony to the Star Center disproportionately inconveniences larger families, many of whom happen to be Hispanic.”
April 6, 2007 1:39 PM
Chicano Family said...
“Everyone has already heard the arguments for and against returning the graduation ceremony to The Pit so there’s no reason to spend a lot of time rehashing what’s already been said. The only issue left to be decided is what most of the parents want to do. We believe that most of the parents want the ceremony to be held in The Pit. So our only request is that you authorize a vote so that we can see what the parents want. If most of them want to hold the ceremony at the Star Center, then we should hold it at the Star Center; if most of the parents want to return to the Pit, then that’s what we should do. If you feel you can’t authorize a vote, then the only fair decision is to return the ceremony to The Pit given that the decision was made without sufficient public input.
Further, the decision to move the ceremony to the Star Center disproportionately inconveniences larger families, many of whom happen to be Hispanic.”
April 6, 2007 1:39 PM
Conselo said...
“Everyone has already heard the arguments for and against returning the graduation ceremony to The Pit so there’s no reason to spend a lot of time rehashing what’s already been said. The only issue left to be decided is what most of the parents want to do. We believe that most of the parents want the ceremony to be held in The Pit. So our only request is that you authorize a vote so that we can see what the parents want. If most of them want to hold the ceremony at the Star Center, then we should hold it at the Star Center; if most of the parents want to return to the Pit, then that’s what we should do. If you feel you can’t authorize a vote, then the only fair decision is to return the ceremony to The Pit given that the decision was made without sufficient public input.
Further, the decision to move the ceremony to the Star Center disproportionately inconveniences larger families, many of whom happen to be Hispanic.”
April 6, 2007 1:40 PM
Maggie said...
“Everyone has already heard the arguments for and against returning the graduation ceremony to The Pit so there’s no reason to spend a lot of time rehashing what’s already been said. The only issue left to be decided is what most of the parents want to do. We believe that most of the parents want the ceremony to be held in The Pit. So our only request is that you authorize a vote so that we can see what the parents want. If most of them want to hold the ceremony at the Star Center, then we should hold it at the Star Center; if most of the parents want to return to the Pit, then that’s what we should do. If you feel you can’t authorize a vote, then the only fair decision is to return the ceremony to The Pit given that the decision was made without sufficient public input.
Further, the decision to move the ceremony to the Star Center disproportionately inconveniences larger families, many of whom happen to be Hispanic.”
April 6, 2007 1:40 PM
Jorge said...
“Everyone has already heard the arguments for and against returning the graduation ceremony to The Pit so there’s no reason to spend a lot of time rehashing what’s already been said. The only issue left to be decided is what most of the parents want to do. We believe that most of the parents want the ceremony to be held in The Pit. So our only request is that you authorize a vote so that we can see what the parents want. If most of them want to hold the ceremony at the Star Center, then we should hold it at the Star Center; if most of the parents want to return to the Pit, then that’s what we should do. If you feel you can’t authorize a vote, then the only fair decision is to return the ceremony to The Pit given that the decision was made without sufficient public input.
Further, the decision to move the ceremony to the Star Center disproportionately inconveniences larger families, many of whom happen to be Hispanic.”
April 6, 2007 1:40 PM
C. C said...
I don't know what to write but I sure like this:
“Everyone has already heard the arguments for and against returning the graduation ceremony to The Pit so there’s no reason to spend a lot of time rehashing what’s already been said. The only issue left to be decided is what most of the parents want to do. We believe that most of the parents want the ceremony to be held in The Pit. So our only request is that you authorize a vote so that we can see what the parents want. If most of them want to hold the ceremony at the Star Center, then we should hold it at the Star Center; if most of the parents want to return to the Pit, then that’s what we should do. If you feel you can’t authorize a vote, then the only fair decision is to return the ceremony to The Pit given that the decision was made without sufficient public input.
Further, the decision to move the ceremony to the Star Center disproportionately inconveniences larger families, many of whom happen to be Hispanic.”
April 6, 2007 1:41 PM
Augustine said...
“Everyone has already heard the arguments for and against returning the graduation ceremony to The Pit so there’s no reason to spend a lot of time rehashing what’s already been said. The only issue left to be decided is what most of the parents want to do. We believe that most of the parents want the ceremony to be held in The Pit. So our only request is that you authorize a vote so that we can see what the parents want. If most of them want to hold the ceremony at the Star Center, then we should hold it at the Star Center; if most of the parents want to return to the Pit, then that’s what we should do. If you feel you can’t authorize a vote, then the only fair decision is to return the ceremony to The Pit given that the decision was made without sufficient public input.
Further, the decision to move the ceremony to the Star Center disproportionately inconveniences larger families, many of whom happen to be Hispanic.”
April 6, 2007 1:41 PM
Gonzalo said...
“Everyone has already heard the arguments for and against returning the graduation ceremony to The Pit so there’s no reason to spend a lot of time rehashing what’s already been said. The only issue left to be decided is what most of the parents want to do. We believe that most of the parents want the ceremony to be held in The Pit. So our only request is that you authorize a vote so that we can see what the parents want. If most of them want to hold the ceremony at the Star Center, then we should hold it at the Star Center; if most of the parents want to return to the Pit, then that’s what we should do. If you feel you can’t authorize a vote, then the only fair decision is to return the ceremony to The Pit given that the decision was made without sufficient public input.
Further, the decision to move the ceremony to the Star Center disproportionately inconveniences larger families, many of whom happen to be Hispanic.”
April 6, 2007 1:42 PM
Araceli said...
“Everyone has already heard the arguments for and against returning the graduation ceremony to The Pit so there’s no reason to spend a lot of time rehashing what’s already been said. The only issue left to be decided is what most of the parents want to do. We believe that most of the parents want the ceremony to be held in The Pit. So our only request is that you authorize a vote so that we can see what the parents want. If most of them want to hold the ceremony at the Star Center, then we should hold it at the Star Center; if most of the parents want to return to the Pit, then that’s what we should do. If you feel you can’t authorize a vote, then the only fair decision is to return the ceremony to The Pit given that the decision was made without sufficient public input.
Further, the decision to move the ceremony to the Star Center disproportionately inconveniences larger families, many of whom happen to be Hispanic.”
April 6, 2007 1:42 PM
Jaime said...
“Everyone has already heard the arguments for and against returning the graduation ceremony to The Pit so there’s no reason to spend a lot of time rehashing what’s already been said. The only issue left to be decided is what most of the parents want to do. We believe that most of the parents want the ceremony to be held in The Pit. So our only request is that you authorize a vote so that we can see what the parents want. If most of them want to hold the ceremony at the Star Center, then we should hold it at the Star Center; if most of the parents want to return to the Pit, then that’s what we should do. If you feel you can’t authorize a vote, then the only fair decision is to return the ceremony to The Pit given that the decision was made without sufficient public input.
Further, the decision to move the ceremony to the Star Center disproportionately inconveniences larger families, many of whom happen to be Hispanic.”
April 6, 2007 1:42 PM
Octavio said...
“Everyone has already heard the arguments for and against returning the graduation ceremony to The Pit so there’s no reason to spend a lot of time rehashing what’s already been said. The only issue left to be decided is what most of the parents want to do. We believe that most of the parents want the ceremony to be held in The Pit. So our only request is that you authorize a vote so that we can see what the parents want. If most of them want to hold the ceremony at the Star Center, then we should hold it at the Star Center; if most of the parents want to return to the Pit, then that’s what we should do. If you feel you can’t authorize a vote, then the only fair decision is to return the ceremony to The Pit given that the decision was made without sufficient public input.
Further, the decision to move the ceremony to the Star Center disproportionately inconveniences larger families, many of whom happen to be Hispanic.”
April 6, 2007 1:42 PM
Miguel said...
“Everyone has already heard the arguments for and against returning the graduation ceremony to The Pit so there’s no reason to spend a lot of time rehashing what’s already been said. The only issue left to be decided is what most of the parents want to do. We believe that most of the parents want the ceremony to be held in The Pit. So our only request is that you authorize a vote so that we can see what the parents want. If most of them want to hold the ceremony at the Star Center, then we should hold it at the Star Center; if most of the parents want to return to the Pit, then that’s what we should do. If you feel you can’t authorize a vote, then the only fair decision is to return the ceremony to The Pit given that the decision was made without sufficient public input.
Further, the decision to move the ceremony to the Star Center disproportionately inconveniences larger families, many of whom happen to be Hispanic.”
April 6, 2007 1:43 PM
Melinda said...
“Everyone has already heard the arguments for and against returning the graduation ceremony to The Pit so there’s no reason to spend a lot of time rehashing what’s already been said. The only issue left to be decided is what most of the parents want to do. We believe that most of the parents want the ceremony to be held in The Pit. So our only request is that you authorize a vote so that we can see what the parents want. If most of them want to hold the ceremony at the Star Center, then we should hold it at the Star Center; if most of the parents want to return to the Pit, then that’s what we should do. If you feel you can’t authorize a vote, then the only fair decision is to return the ceremony to The Pit given that the decision was made without sufficient public input.
Further, the decision to move the ceremony to the Star Center disproportionately inconveniences larger families, many of whom happen to be Hispanic.”
April 6, 2007 1:43 PM
Juan said...
“Everyone has already heard the arguments for and against returning the graduation ceremony to The Pit so there’s no reason to spend a lot of time rehashing what’s already been said. The only issue left to be decided is what most of the parents want to do. We believe that most of the parents want the ceremony to be held in The Pit. So our only request is that you authorize a vote so that we can see what the parents want. If most of them want to hold the ceremony at the Star Center, then we should hold it at the Star Center; if most of the parents want to return to the Pit, then that’s what we should do. If you feel you can’t authorize a vote, then the only fair decision is to return the ceremony to The Pit given that the decision was made without sufficient public input.
Further, the decision to move the ceremony to the Star Center disproportionately inconveniences larger families, many of whom happen to be Hispanic.”
April 6, 2007 1:43 PM
Ernesto said...
“Everyone has already heard the arguments for and against returning the graduation ceremony to The Pit so there’s no reason to spend a lot of time rehashing what’s already been said. The only issue left to be decided is what most of the parents want to do. We believe that most of the parents want the ceremony to be held in The Pit. So our only request is that you authorize a vote so that we can see what the parents want. If most of them want to hold the ceremony at the Star Center, then we should hold it at the Star Center; if most of the parents want to return to the Pit, then that’s what we should do. If you feel you can’t authorize a vote, then the only fair decision is to return the ceremony to The Pit given that the decision was made without sufficient public input.
Further, the decision to move the ceremony to the Star Center disproportionately inconveniences larger families, many of whom happen to be Hispanic.”
April 6, 2007 1:44 PM
Nestor said...
“Everyone has already heard the arguments for and against returning the graduation ceremony to The Pit so there’s no reason to spend a lot of time rehashing what’s already been said. The only issue left to be decided is what most of the parents want to do. We believe that most of the parents want the ceremony to be held in The Pit. So our only request is that you authorize a vote so that we can see what the parents want. If most of them want to hold the ceremony at the Star Center, then we should hold it at the Star Center; if most of the parents want to return to the Pit, then that’s what we should do. If you feel you can’t authorize a vote, then the only fair decision is to return the ceremony to The Pit given that the decision was made without sufficient public input.
Further, the decision to move the ceremony to the Star Center disproportionately inconveniences larger families, many of whom happen to be Hispanic.”
April 6, 2007 1:44 PM
Nan said...
“Everyone has already heard the arguments for and against returning the graduation ceremony to The Pit so there’s no reason to spend a lot of time rehashing what’s already been said. The only issue left to be decided is what most of the parents want to do. We believe that most of the parents want the ceremony to be held in The Pit. So our only request is that you authorize a vote so that we can see what the parents want. If most of them want to hold the ceremony at the Star Center, then we should hold it at the Star Center; if most of the parents want to return to the Pit, then that’s what we should do. If you feel you can’t authorize a vote, then the only fair decision is to return the ceremony to The Pit given that the decision was made without sufficient public input.
Further, the decision to move the ceremony to the Star Center disproportionately inconveniences larger families, many of whom happen to be Hispanic.”
April 6, 2007 1:44 PM
Jorge said...
“Everyone has already heard the arguments for and against returning the graduation ceremony to The Pit so there’s no reason to spend a lot of time rehashing what’s already been said. The only issue left to be decided is what most of the parents want to do. We believe that most of the parents want the ceremony to be held in The Pit. So our only request is that you authorize a vote so that we can see what the parents want. If most of them want to hold the ceremony at the Star Center, then we should hold it at the Star Center; if most of the parents want to return to the Pit, then that’s what we should do. If you feel you can’t authorize a vote, then the only fair decision is to return the ceremony to The Pit given that the decision was made without sufficient public input.
Further, the decision to move the ceremony to the Star Center disproportionately inconveniences larger families, many of whom happen to be Hispanic.”
April 6, 2007 1:45 PM
Gary said...
“Everyone has already heard the arguments for and against returning the graduation ceremony to The Pit so there’s no reason to spend a lot of time rehashing what’s already been said. The only issue left to be decided is what most of the parents want to do. We believe that most of the parents want the ceremony to be held in The Pit. So our only request is that you authorize a vote so that we can see what the parents want. If most of them want to hold the ceremony at the Star Center, then we should hold it at the Star Center; if most of the parents want to return to the Pit, then that’s what we should do. If you feel you can’t authorize a vote, then the only fair decision is to return the ceremony to The Pit given that the decision was made without sufficient public input.
Further, the decision to move the ceremony to the Star Center disproportionately inconveniences larger families, many of whom happen to be Hispanic.”
April 6, 2007 1:45 PM
Albert said...
“Everyone has already heard the arguments for and against returning the graduation ceremony to The Pit so there’s no reason to spend a lot of time rehashing what’s already been said. The only issue left to be decided is what most of the parents want to do. We believe that most of the parents want the ceremony to be held in The Pit. So our only request is that you authorize a vote so that we can see what the parents want. If most of them want to hold the ceremony at the Star Center, then we should hold it at the Star Center; if most of the parents want to return to the Pit, then that’s what we should do. If you feel you can’t authorize a vote, then the only fair decision is to return the ceremony to The Pit given that the decision was made without sufficient public input.
Further, the decision to move the ceremony to the Star Center disproportionately inconveniences larger families, many of whom happen to be Hispanic.”
April 6, 2007 1:46 PM
Fig said...
“Everyone has already heard the arguments for and against returning the graduation ceremony to The Pit so there’s no reason to spend a lot of time rehashing what’s already been said. The only issue left to be decided is what most of the parents want to do. We believe that most of the parents want the ceremony to be held in The Pit. So our only request is that you authorize a vote so that we can see what the parents want. If most of them want to hold the ceremony at the Star Center, then we should hold it at the Star Center; if most of the parents want to return to the Pit, then that’s what we should do. If you feel you can’t authorize a vote, then the only fair decision is to return the ceremony to The Pit given that the decision was made without sufficient public input.
Further, the decision to move the ceremony to the Star Center disproportionately inconveniences larger families, many of whom happen to be Hispanic.”
April 6, 2007 1:46 PM
BEE FAIR said...
“Everyone has already heard the arguments for and against returning the graduation ceremony to The Pit so there’s no reason to spend a lot of time rehashing what’s already been said. The only issue left to be decided is what most of the parents want to do. We believe that most of the parents want the ceremony to be held in The Pit. So our only request is that you authorize a vote so that we can see what the parents want. If most of them want to hold the ceremony at the Star Center, then we should hold it at the Star Center; if most of the parents want to return to the Pit, then that’s what we should do. If you feel you can’t authorize a vote, then the only fair decision is to return the ceremony to The Pit given that the decision was made without sufficient public input.
Further, the decision to move the ceremony to the Star Center disproportionately inconveniences larger families, many of whom happen to be Hispanic.”
April 6, 2007 1:52 PM
Vote said...
“Everyone has already heard the arguments for and against returning the graduation ceremony to The Pit so there’s no reason to spend a lot of time rehashing what’s already been said. The only issue left to be decided is what most of the parents want to do. We believe that most of the parents want the ceremony to be held in The Pit. So our only request is that you authorize a vote so that we can see what the parents want. If most of them want to hold the ceremony at the Star Center, then we should hold it at the Star Center; if most of the parents want to return to the Pit, then that’s what we should do. If you feel you can’t authorize a vote, then the only fair decision is to return the ceremony to The Pit given that the decision was made without sufficient public input.
Further, the decision to move the ceremony to the Star Center disproportionately inconveniences larger families, many of whom happen to be Hispanic.”
April 6, 2007 1:53 PM
Otis said...
“Everyone has already heard the arguments for and against returning the graduation ceremony to The Pit so there’s no reason to spend a lot of time rehashing what’s already been said. The only issue left to be decided is what most of the parents want to do. We believe that most of the parents want the ceremony to be held in The Pit. So our only request is that you authorize a vote so that we can see what the parents want. If most of them want to hold the ceremony at the Star Center, then we should hold it at the Star Center; if most of the parents want to return to the Pit, then that’s what we should do. If you feel you can’t authorize a vote, then the only fair decision is to return the ceremony to The Pit given that the decision was made without sufficient public input.
Further, the decision to move the ceremony to the Star Center disproportionately inconveniences larger families, many of whom happen to be Hispanic.”
April 6, 2007 1:59 PM
Meliton said...
“Everyone has already heard the arguments for and against returning the graduation ceremony to The Pit so there’s no reason to spend a lot of time rehashing what’s already been said. The only issue left to be decided is what most of the parents want to do. We believe that most of the parents want the ceremony to be held in The Pit. So our only request is that you authorize a vote so that we can see what the parents want. If most of them want to hold the ceremony at the Star Center, then we should hold it at the Star Center; if most of the parents want to return to the Pit, then that’s what we should do. If you feel you can’t authorize a vote, then the only fair decision is to return the ceremony to The Pit given that the decision was made without sufficient public input.
Further, the decision to move the ceremony to the Star Center disproportionately inconveniences larger families, many of whom happen to be Hispanic.”
April 6, 2007 1:59 PM
Conrad said...
“Everyone has already heard the arguments for and against returning the graduation ceremony to The Pit so there’s no reason to spend a lot of time rehashing what’s already been said. The only issue left to be decided is what most of the parents want to do. We believe that most of the parents want the ceremony to be held in The Pit. So our only request is that you authorize a vote so that we can see what the parents want. If most of them want to hold the ceremony at the Star Center, then we should hold it at the Star Center; if most of the parents want to return to the Pit, then that’s what we should do. If you feel you can’t authorize a vote, then the only fair decision is to return the ceremony to The Pit given that the decision was made without sufficient public input.
Further, the decision to move the ceremony to the Star Center disproportionately inconveniences larger families, many of whom happen to be Hispanic.”
April 6, 2007 1:59 PM
comment said...
“Everyone has already heard the arguments for and against returning the graduation ceremony to The Pit so there’s no reason to spend a lot of time rehashing what’s already been said. The only issue left to be decided is what most of the parents want to do. We believe that most of the parents want the ceremony to be held in The Pit. So our only request is that you authorize a vote so that we can see what the parents want. If most of them want to hold the ceremony at the Star Center, then we should hold it at the Star Center; if most of the parents want to return to the Pit, then that’s what we should do. If you feel you can’t authorize a vote, then the only fair decision is to return the ceremony to The Pit given that the decision was made without sufficient public input.
Further, the decision to move the ceremony to the Star Center disproportionately inconveniences larger families, many of whom happen to be Hispanic.”
April 6, 2007 2:00 PM
Si said...
“Everyone has already heard the arguments for and against returning the graduation ceremony to The Pit so there’s no reason to spend a lot of time rehashing what’s already been said. The only issue left to be decided is what most of the parents want to do. We believe that most of the parents want the ceremony to be held in The Pit. So our only request is that you authorize a vote so that we can see what the parents want. If most of them want to hold the ceremony at the Star Center, then we should hold it at the Star Center; if most of the parents want to return to the Pit, then that’s what we should do. If you feel you can’t authorize a vote, then the only fair decision is to return the ceremony to The Pit given that the decision was made without sufficient public input.
Further, the decision to move the ceremony to the Star Center disproportionately inconveniences larger families, many of whom happen to be Hispanic.”
April 6, 2007 2:00 PM
Gutay said...
“Everyone has already heard the arguments for and against returning the graduation ceremony to The Pit so there’s no reason to spend a lot of time rehashing what’s already been said. The only issue left to be decided is what most of the parents want to do. We believe that most of the parents want the ceremony to be held in The Pit. So our only request is that you authorize a vote so that we can see what the parents want. If most of them want to hold the ceremony at the Star Center, then we should hold it at the Star Center; if most of the parents want to return to the Pit, then that’s what we should do. If you feel you can’t authorize a vote, then the only fair decision is to return the ceremony to The Pit given that the decision was made without sufficient public input.
Further, the decision to move the ceremony to the Star Center disproportionately inconveniences larger families, many of whom happen to be Hispanic.”
April 6, 2007 2:00 PM
Tire Bite said...
“Everyone has already heard the arguments for and against returning the graduation ceremony to The Pit so there’s no reason to spend a lot of time rehashing what’s already been said. The only issue left to be decided is what most of the parents want to do. We believe that most of the parents want the ceremony to be held in The Pit. So our only request is that you authorize a vote so that we can see what the parents want. If most of them want to hold the ceremony at the Star Center, then we should hold it at the Star Center; if most of the parents want to return to the Pit, then that’s what we should do. If you feel you can’t authorize a vote, then the only fair decision is to return the ceremony to The Pit given that the decision was made without sufficient public input.
Further, the decision to move the ceremony to the Star Center disproportionately inconveniences larger families, many of whom happen to be Hispanic.”
April 6, 2007 2:00 PM
Cisco said...
“Everyone has already heard the arguments for and against returning the graduation ceremony to The Pit so there’s no reason to spend a lot of time rehashing what’s already been said. The only issue left to be decided is what most of the parents want to do. We believe that most of the parents want the ceremony to be held in The Pit. So our only request is that you authorize a vote so that we can see what the parents want. If most of them want to hold the ceremony at the Star Center, then we should hold it at the Star Center; if most of the parents want to return to the Pit, then that’s what we should do. If you feel you can’t authorize a vote, then the only fair decision is to return the ceremony to The Pit given that the decision was made without sufficient public input.
Further, the decision to move the ceremony to the Star Center disproportionately inconveniences larger families, many of whom happen to be Hispanic.”
April 6, 2007 2:01 PM
Cha Chi said...
“Everyone has already heard the arguments for and against returning the graduation ceremony to The Pit so there’s no reason to spend a lot of time rehashing what’s already been said. The only issue left to be decided is what most of the parents want to do. We believe that most of the parents want the ceremony to be held in The Pit. So our only request is that you authorize a vote so that we can see what the parents want. If most of them want to hold the ceremony at the Star Center, then we should hold it at the Star Center; if most of the parents want to return to the Pit, then that’s what we should do. If you feel you can’t authorize a vote, then the only fair decision is to return the ceremony to The Pit given that the decision was made without sufficient public input.
Further, the decision to move the ceremony to the Star Center disproportionately inconveniences larger families, many of whom happen to be Hispanic.”
April 6, 2007 2:01 PM
Norte said...
“Everyone has already heard the arguments for and against returning the graduation ceremony to The Pit so there’s no reason to spend a lot of time rehashing what’s already been said. The only issue left to be decided is what most of the parents want to do. We believe that most of the parents want the ceremony to be held in The Pit. So our only request is that you authorize a vote so that we can see what the parents want. If most of them want to hold the ceremony at the Star Center, then we should hold it at the Star Center; if most of the parents want to return to the Pit, then that’s what we should do. If you feel you can’t authorize a vote, then the only fair decision is to return the ceremony to The Pit given that the decision was made without sufficient public input.
Further, the decision to move the ceremony to the Star Center disproportionately inconveniences larger families, many of whom happen to be Hispanic.”
April 6, 2007 2:02 PM
Pablo said...
“Everyone has already heard the arguments for and against returning the graduation ceremony to The Pit so there’s no reason to spend a lot of time rehashing what’s already been said. The only issue left to be decided is what most of the parents want to do. We believe that most of the parents want the ceremony to be held in The Pit. So our only request is that you authorize a vote so that we can see what the parents want. If most of them want to hold the ceremony at the Star Center, then we should hold it at the Star Center; if most of the parents want to return to the Pit, then that’s what we should do. If you feel you can’t authorize a vote, then the only fair decision is to return the ceremony to The Pit given that the decision was made without sufficient public input.
Further, the decision to move the ceremony to the Star Center disproportionately inconveniences larger families, many of whom happen to be Hispanic.”
April 6, 2007 2:02 PM
Arguello said...
“Everyone has already heard the arguments for and against returning the graduation ceremony to The Pit so there’s no reason to spend a lot of time rehashing what’s already been said. The only issue left to be decided is what most of the parents want to do. We believe that most of the parents want the ceremony to be held in The Pit. So our only request is that you authorize a vote so that we can see what the parents want. If most of them want to hold the ceremony at the Star Center, then we should hold it at the Star Center; if most of the parents want to return to the Pit, then that’s what we should do. If you feel you can’t authorize a vote, then the only fair decision is to return the ceremony to The Pit given that the decision was made without sufficient public input.
Further, the decision to move the ceremony to the Star Center disproportionately inconveniences larger families, many of whom happen to be Hispanic.”
April 6, 2007 2:02 PM
Mama said...
“Everyone has already heard the arguments for and against returning the graduation ceremony to The Pit so there’s no reason to spend a lot of time rehashing what’s already been said. The only issue left to be decided is what most of the parents want to do. We believe that most of the parents want the ceremony to be held in The Pit. So our only request is that you authorize a vote so that we can see what the parents want. If most of them want to hold the ceremony at the Star Center, then we should hold it at the Star Center; if most of the parents want to return to the Pit, then that’s what we should do. If you feel you can’t authorize a vote, then the only fair decision is to return the ceremony to The Pit given that the decision was made without sufficient public input.
Further, the decision to move the ceremony to the Star Center disproportionately inconveniences larger families, many of whom happen to be Hispanic.”
April 6, 2007 2:03 PM
Che said...
“Everyone has already heard the arguments for and against returning the graduation ceremony to The Pit so there’s no reason to spend a lot of time rehashing what’s already been said. The only issue left to be decided is what most of the parents want to do. We believe that most of the parents want the ceremony to be held in The Pit. So our only request is that you authorize a vote so that we can see what the parents want. If most of them want to hold the ceremony at the Star Center, then we should hold it at the Star Center; if most of the parents want to return to the Pit, then that’s what we should do. If you feel you can’t authorize a vote, then the only fair decision is to return the ceremony to The Pit given that the decision was made without sufficient public input.
Further, the decision to move the ceremony to the Star Center disproportionately inconveniences larger families, many of whom happen to be Hispanic.”
April 6, 2007 2:03 PM
Chavez said...
“Everyone has already heard the arguments for and against returning the graduation ceremony to The Pit so there’s no reason to spend a lot of time rehashing what’s already been said. The only issue left to be decided is what most of the parents want to do. We believe that most of the parents want the ceremony to be held in The Pit. So our only request is that you authorize a vote so that we can see what the parents want. If most of them want to hold the ceremony at the Star Center, then we should hold it at the Star Center; if most of the parents want to return to the Pit, then that’s what we should do. If you feel you can’t authorize a vote, then the only fair decision is to return the ceremony to The Pit given that the decision was made without sufficient public input.
Further, the decision to move the ceremony to the Star Center disproportionately inconveniences larger families, many of whom happen to be Hispanic.”
April 6, 2007 2:04 PM
Enjo said...
“Everyone has already heard the arguments for and against returning the graduation ceremony to The Pit so there’s no reason to spend a lot of time rehashing what’s already been said. The only issue left to be decided is what most of the parents want to do. We believe that most of the parents want the ceremony to be held in The Pit. So our only request is that you authorize a vote so that we can see what the parents want. If most of them want to hold the ceremony at the Star Center, then we should hold it at the Star Center; if most of the parents want to return to the Pit, then that’s what we should do. If you feel you can’t authorize a vote, then the only fair decision is to return the ceremony to The Pit given that the decision was made without sufficient public input.
Further, the decision to move the ceremony to the Star Center disproportionately inconveniences larger families, many of whom happen to be Hispanic.”
April 6, 2007 2:04 PM
Tia said...
“Everyone has already heard the arguments for and against returning the graduation ceremony to The Pit so there’s no reason to spend a lot of time rehashing what’s already been said. The only issue left to be decided is what most of the parents want to do. We believe that most of the parents want the ceremony to be held in The Pit. So our only request is that you authorize a vote so that we can see what the parents want. If most of them want to hold the ceremony at the Star Center, then we should hold it at the Star Center; if most of the parents want to return to the Pit, then that’s what we should do. If you feel you can’t authorize a vote, then the only fair decision is to return the ceremony to The Pit given that the decision was made without sufficient public input.
Further, the decision to move the ceremony to the Star Center disproportionately inconveniences larger families, many of whom happen to be Hispanic.”
April 6, 2007 2:04 PM
Betocal said...
“Everyone has already heard the arguments for and against returning the graduation ceremony to The Pit so there’s no reason to spend a lot of time rehashing what’s already been said. The only issue left to be decided is what most of the parents want to do. We believe that most of the parents want the ceremony to be held in The Pit. So our only request is that you authorize a vote so that we can see what the parents want. If most of them want to hold the ceremony at the Star Center, then we should hold it at the Star Center; if most of the parents want to return to the Pit, then that’s what we should do. If you feel you can’t authorize a vote, then the only fair decision is to return the ceremony to The Pit given that the decision was made without sufficient public input.
Further, the decision to move the ceremony to the Star Center disproportionately inconveniences larger families, many of whom happen to be Hispanic.”
April 6, 2007 2:05 PM
Brown and Proud said...
“Everyone has already heard the arguments for and against returning the graduation ceremony to The Pit so there’s no reason to spend a lot of time rehashing what’s already been said. The only issue left to be decided is what most of the parents want to do. We believe that most of the parents want the ceremony to be held in The Pit. So our only request is that you authorize a vote so that we can see what the parents want. If most of them want to hold the ceremony at the Star Center, then we should hold it at the Star Center; if most of the parents want to return to the Pit, then that’s what we should do. If you feel you can’t authorize a vote, then the only fair decision is to return the ceremony to The Pit given that the decision was made without sufficient public input.
Further, the decision to move the ceremony to the Star Center disproportionately inconveniences larger families, many of whom happen to be Hispanic.”
April 6, 2007 2:05 PM
Kenny said...
“Everyone has already heard the arguments for and against returning the graduation ceremony to The Pit so there’s no reason to spend a lot of time rehashing what’s already been said. The only issue left to be decided is what most of the parents want to do. We believe that most of the parents want the ceremony to be held in The Pit. So our only request is that you authorize a vote so that we can see what the parents want. If most of them want to hold the ceremony at the Star Center, then we should hold it at the Star Center; if most of the parents want to return to the Pit, then that’s what we should do. If you feel you can’t authorize a vote, then the only fair decision is to return the ceremony to The Pit given that the decision was made without sufficient public input.
Further, the decision to move the ceremony to the Star Center disproportionately inconveniences larger families, many of whom happen to be Hispanic.”
April 6, 2007 2:05 PM
Maria Maria said...
“Everyone has already heard the arguments for and against returning the graduation ceremony to The Pit so there’s no reason to spend a lot of time rehashing what’s already been said. The only issue left to be decided is what most of the parents want to do. We believe that most of the parents want the ceremony to be held in The Pit. So our only request is that you authorize a vote so that we can see what the parents want. If most of them want to hold the ceremony at the Star Center, then we should hold it at the Star Center; if most of the parents want to return to the Pit, then that’s what we should do. If you feel you can’t authorize a vote, then the only fair decision is to return the ceremony to The Pit given that the decision was made without sufficient public input.
Further, the decision to move the ceremony to the Star Center disproportionately inconveniences larger families, many of whom happen to be Hispanic.”
April 6, 2007 2:06 PM
Theodore said...
“Everyone has already heard the arguments for and against returning the graduation ceremony to The Pit so there’s no reason to spend a lot of time rehashing what’s already been said. The only issue left to be decided is what most of the parents want to do. We believe that most of the parents want the ceremony to be held in The Pit. So our only request is that you authorize a vote so that we can see what the parents want. If most of them want to hold the ceremony at the Star Center, then we should hold it at the Star Center; if most of the parents want to return to the Pit, then that’s what we should do. If you feel you can’t authorize a vote, then the only fair decision is to return the ceremony to The Pit given that the decision was made without sufficient public input.
Further, the decision to move the ceremony to the Star Center disproportionately inconveniences larger families, many of whom happen to be Hispanic.”
April 6, 2007 2:06 PM
The Observer should have said...
“Everyone has already heard the arguments for and against returning the graduation ceremony to The Pit so there’s no reason to spend a lot of time rehashing what’s already been said. The only issue left to be decided is what most of the parents want to do. We believe that most of the parents want the ceremony to be held in The Pit. So our only request is that you authorize a vote so that we can see what the parents want. If most of them want to hold the ceremony at the Star Center, then we should hold it at the Star Center; if most of the parents want to return to the Pit, then that’s what we should do. If you feel you can’t authorize a vote, then the only fair decision is to return the ceremony to The Pit given that the decision was made without sufficient public input.
Further, the decision to move the ceremony to the Star Center disproportionately inconveniences larger families, many of whom happen to be Hispanic.”
April 6, 2007 2:06 PM
Senior 2007 said...
“Everyone has already heard the arguments for and against returning the graduation ceremony to The Pit so there’s no reason to spend a lot of time rehashing what’s already been said. The only issue left to be decided is what most of the parents want to do. We believe that most of the parents want the ceremony to be held in The Pit. So our only request is that you authorize a vote so that we can see what the parents want. If most of them want to hold the ceremony at the Star Center, then we should hold it at the Star Center; if most of the parents want to return to the Pit, then that’s what we should do. If you feel you can’t authorize a vote, then the only fair decision is to return the ceremony to The Pit given that the decision was made without sufficient public input.
Further, the decision to move the ceremony to the Star Center disproportionately inconveniences larger families, many of whom happen to be Hispanic.”
April 6, 2007 2:07 PM
Billy said...
“Everyone has already heard the arguments for and against returning the graduation ceremony to The Pit so there’s no reason to spend a lot of time rehashing what’s already been said. The only issue left to be decided is what most of the parents want to do. We believe that most of the parents want the ceremony to be held in The Pit. So our only request is that you authorize a vote so that we can see what the parents want. If most of them want to hold the ceremony at the Star Center, then we should hold it at the Star Center; if most of the parents want to return to the Pit, then that’s what we should do. If you feel you can’t authorize a vote, then the only fair decision is to return the ceremony to The Pit given that the decision was made without sufficient public input.
Further, the decision to move the ceremony to the Star Center disproportionately inconveniences larger families, many of whom happen to be Hispanic.”
April 6, 2007 2:07 PM
Connie said...
“Everyone has already heard the arguments for and against returning the graduation ceremony to The Pit so there’s no reason to spend a lot of time rehashing what’s already been said. The only issue left to be decided is what most of the parents want to do. We believe that most of the parents want the ceremony to be held in The Pit. So our only request is that you authorize a vote so that we can see what the parents want. If most of them want to hold the ceremony at the Star Center, then we should hold it at the Star Center; if most of the parents want to return to the Pit, then that’s what we should do. If you feel you can’t authorize a vote, then the only fair decision is to return the ceremony to The Pit given that the decision was made without sufficient public input.
Further, the decision to move the ceremony to the Star Center disproportionately inconveniences larger families, many of whom happen to be Hispanic.”
April 6, 2007 2:08 PM
Nate said...
“Everyone has already heard the arguments for and against returning the graduation ceremony to The Pit so there’s no reason to spend a lot of time rehashing what’s already been said. The only issue left to be decided is what most of the parents want to do. We believe that most of the parents want the ceremony to be held in The Pit. So our only request is that you authorize a vote so that we can see what the parents want. If most of them want to hold the ceremony at the Star Center, then we should hold it at the Star Center; if most of the parents want to return to the Pit, then that’s what we should do. If you feel you can’t authorize a vote, then the only fair decision is to return the ceremony to The Pit given that the decision was made without sufficient public input.
Further, the decision to move the ceremony to the Star Center disproportionately inconveniences larger families, many of whom happen to be Hispanic.”
April 6, 2007 2:08 PM
Esqui said...
“Everyone has already heard the arguments for and against returning the graduation ceremony to The Pit so there’s no reason to spend a lot of time rehashing what’s already been said. The only issue left to be decided is what most of the parents want to do. We believe that most of the parents want the ceremony to be held in The Pit. So our only request is that you authorize a vote so that we can see what the parents want. If most of them want to hold the ceremony at the Star Center, then we should hold it at the Star Center; if most of the parents want to return to the Pit, then that’s what we should do. If you feel you can’t authorize a vote, then the only fair decision is to return the ceremony to The Pit given that the decision was made without sufficient public input.
Further, the decision to move the ceremony to the Star Center disproportionately inconveniences larger families, many of whom happen to be Hispanic.”
April 6, 2007 2:08 PM
Emile said...
“Everyone has already heard the arguments for and against returning the graduation ceremony to The Pit so there’s no reason to spend a lot of time rehashing what’s already been said. The only issue left to be decided is what most of the parents want to do. We believe that most of the parents want the ceremony to be held in The Pit. So our only request is that you authorize a vote so that we can see what the parents want. If most of them want to hold the ceremony at the Star Center, then we should hold it at the Star Center; if most of the parents want to return to the Pit, then that’s what we should do. If you feel you can’t authorize a vote, then the only fair decision is to return the ceremony to The Pit given that the decision was made without sufficient public input.
Further, the decision to move the ceremony to the Star Center disproportionately inconveniences larger families, many of whom happen to be Hispanic.”
April 6, 2007 2:09 PM
Nocturnals said...
“Everyone has already heard the arguments for and against returning the graduation ceremony to The Pit so there’s no reason to spend a lot of time rehashing what’s already been said. The only issue left to be decided is what most of the parents want to do. We believe that most of the parents want the ceremony to be held in The Pit. So our only request is that you authorize a vote so that we can see what the parents want. If most of them want to hold the ceremony at the Star Center, then we should hold it at the Star Center; if most of the parents want to return to the Pit, then that’s what we should do. If you feel you can’t authorize a vote, then the only fair decision is to return the ceremony to The Pit given that the decision was made without sufficient public input.
Further, the decision to move the ceremony to the Star Center disproportionately inconveniences larger families, many of whom happen to be Hispanic.”
April 6, 2007 2:09 PM
Barbara said...
“Everyone has already heard the arguments for and against returning the graduation ceremony to The Pit so there’s no reason to spend a lot of time rehashing what’s already been said. The only issue left to be decided is what most of the parents want to do. We believe that most of the parents want the ceremony to be held in The Pit. So our only request is that you authorize a vote so that we can see what the parents want. If most of them want to hold the ceremony at the Star Center, then we should hold it at the Star Center; if most of the parents want to return to the Pit, then that’s what we should do. If you feel you can’t authorize a vote, then the only fair decision is to return the ceremony to The Pit given that the decision was made without sufficient public input.
Further, the decision to move the ceremony to the Star Center disproportionately inconveniences larger families, many of whom happen to be Hispanic.”
April 6, 2007 2:09 PM
Sancho said...
“Everyone has already heard the arguments for and against returning the graduation ceremony to The Pit so there’s no reason to spend a lot of time rehashing what’s already been said. The only issue left to be decided is what most of the parents want to do. We believe that most of the parents want the ceremony to be held in The Pit. So our only request is that you authorize a vote so that we can see what the parents want. If most of them want to hold the ceremony at the Star Center, then we should hold it at the Star Center; if most of the parents want to return to the Pit, then that’s what we should do. If you feel you can’t authorize a vote, then the only fair decision is to return the ceremony to The Pit given that the decision was made without sufficient public input.
Further, the decision to move the ceremony to the Star Center disproportionately inconveniences larger families, many of whom happen to be Hispanic.”
April 6, 2007 2:09 PM
G said...
“Everyone has already heard the arguments for and against returning the graduation ceremony to The Pit so there’s no reason to spend a lot of time rehashing what’s already been said. The only issue left to be decided is what most of the parents want to do. We believe that most of the parents want the ceremony to be held in The Pit. So our only request is that you authorize a vote so that we can see what the parents want. If most of them want to hold the ceremony at the Star Center, then we should hold it at the Star Center; if most of the parents want to return to the Pit, then that’s what we should do. If you feel you can’t authorize a vote, then the only fair decision is to return the ceremony to The Pit given that the decision was made without sufficient public input.
Further, the decision to move the ceremony to the Star Center disproportionately inconveniences larger families, many of whom happen to be Hispanic.”
April 6, 2007 2:10 PM
El said...
“Everyone has already heard the arguments for and against returning the graduation ceremony to The Pit so there’s no reason to spend a lot of time rehashing what’s already been said. The only issue left to be decided is what most of the parents want to do. We believe that most of the parents want the ceremony to be held in The Pit. So our only request is that you authorize a vote so that we can see what the parents want. If most of them want to hold the ceremony at the Star Center, then we should hold it at the Star Center; if most of the parents want to return to the Pit, then that’s what we should do. If you feel you can’t authorize a vote, then the only fair decision is to return the ceremony to The Pit given that the decision was made without sufficient public input.
Further, the decision to move the ceremony to the Star Center disproportionately inconveniences larger families, many of whom happen to be Hispanic.”
April 6, 2007 2:10 PM
Teo said...
“Everyone has already heard the arguments for and against returning the graduation ceremony to The Pit so there’s no reason to spend a lot of time rehashing what’s already been said. The only issue left to be decided is what most of the parents want to do. We believe that most of the parents want the ceremony to be held in The Pit. So our only request is that you authorize a vote so that we can see what the parents want. If most of them want to hold the ceremony at the Star Center, then we should hold it at the Star Center; if most of the parents want to return to the Pit, then that’s what we should do. If you feel you can’t authorize a vote, then the only fair decision is to return the ceremony to The Pit given that the decision was made without sufficient public input.
Further, the decision to move the ceremony to the Star Center disproportionately inconveniences larger families, many of whom happen to be Hispanic.”
April 6, 2007 2:10 PM
Val said...
“Everyone has already heard the arguments for and against returning the graduation ceremony to The Pit so there’s no reason to spend a lot of time rehashing what’s already been said. The only issue left to be decided is what most of the parents want to do. We believe that most of the parents want the ceremony to be held in The Pit. So our only request is that you authorize a vote so that we can see what the parents want. If most of them want to hold the ceremony at the Star Center, then we should hold it at the Star Center; if most of the parents want to return to the Pit, then that’s what we should do. If you feel you can’t authorize a vote, then the only fair decision is to return the ceremony to The Pit given that the decision was made without sufficient public input.
Further, the decision to move the ceremony to the Star Center disproportionately inconveniences larger families, many of whom happen to be Hispanic.”
April 6, 2007 2:11 PM
i said...
“Everyone has already heard the arguments for and against returning the graduation ceremony to The Pit so there’s no reason to spend a lot of time rehashing what’s already been said. The only issue left to be decided is what most of the parents want to do. We believe that most of the parents want the ceremony to be held in The Pit. So our only request is that you authorize a vote so that we can see what the parents want. If most of them want to hold the ceremony at the Star Center, then we should hold it at the Star Center; if most of the parents want to return to the Pit, then that’s what we should do. If you feel you can’t authorize a vote, then the only fair decision is to return the ceremony to The Pit given that the decision was made without sufficient public input.
Further, the decision to move the ceremony to the Star Center disproportionately inconveniences larger families, many of whom happen to be Hispanic.”
April 6, 2007 2:11 PM
I agree said...
Surely we have legal rights?
Each School Board member is sworn in by a judge and their oath of service maintains they must uphold the Constitution of the United States as well as the school's, isn't this a direct violation of "due process", fair process, or any equal and "good faith" standards that adhere to our Constitution and what they were founded on? I have personally heard that Dr. Cleveland is "fair" and we are absolutely counting on that in this matter.
April 6, 2007 2:19 PM
Bringing it ALL BACK HOME said...
Surely we have legal rights?
Each School Board member is sworn in by a judge and their oath of service maintains they must uphold the Constitution of the United States as well as the school's, isn't this a direct violation of "due process", fair process, or any equal and "good faith" standards that adhere to our Constitution and what they were founded on? I have personally heard that Dr. Cleveland is "fair" and we are absolutely counting on that in this matter.
April 6, 2007 2:40 PM
Uncle A said...
Going back to the Pit is a great idea. For many students this is there only claim to fame. Relatives would like to attend the ceremony and the Pit can hold more people who obviously would like to attend. Having a graduation with limited seating is archaic and so bourgeois. Step up to the plate and give family a chance to celebate this momentous occasion. Many have to travel great distances. Do you remember how they treated Mary and Joseph, there was no room at the inn. Don't do the same to the greates class of Rio Rancho's history, the class of 2007.
April 6, 2007 2:43 PM
Plan to Fail said...
“Fail to Plan
Plan to Fail”
"We'll have to have cable."
"What are you doing for DISH subscribers?"
You are trying to put a band-aid on a severe wound
Thanks Malone
Aubry
April 6, 2007 2:43 PM
Anonymous said...
We need your help everyone must be united. We can sign a thousand petitions, but they’re NOT going to go back. PLEASE let there be a fair vote. We need to continue to show that we want THE PIT back. Please call Yvette for more info 994-9648 thanks for all your support.
April 6, 2007 2:47 PM
Senior 2007 said...
Gary Herron from the Rio Rancho paper was very wrong for trying to put an age limit on who may attend the graduation.
The way I see it as a senior, is we are role models for the younger children to stay in school so they will accomplish this in their life.
It teaches children that if we can do it they can do it too just stay in school and do good.
It is wrong to not let them go then it just makes them think well since I may not attend to see them graduate why should they?
It is also making Herron look really bad for trying to say that children 10 years and under should stay home with a babysitter.
Why dont he stay home himself?
We seniors are really good role models for those that are younger so they will want to stay in school.
IT shows them that anything we put our minds to and make goals we can accomplish.
We Need to go back to the Pit so everyone may attend no matter what the age is.
April 6, 2007 2:51 PM
To Dr. Cleveland said...
Dr. Sue Cleveland,
Thousands of people will not be allowed to attend the graduation. It is imperative you put this to a vote. All seniors and their families, not just those who complained after the 2006 graduation.
Jack
April 6, 2007 6:13 PM
To Dr. Sue Clevleland said...
RRPS left parents out of a significant decision.The PIT will hold 13,000 people.The Star Center 5500.This is the largest graduating class.Plans should have been vote on by the people it most affects.Last year the PIT was packed with families and the graduating class was not as large.Go back now.
Eli
April 6, 2007 8:13 PM
Kool Website said...
AWESOME!
Doc Clevelander,
Yo!
This is bogus!
Don't rip off the masses!
Let em VOTE!
ROCK THE VOTE!
April 6, 2007 8:17 PM
The good DR. said...
Get it?
Got it?
Good?
Go Back
April 6, 2007 8:21 PM
SCHOOL BOARD MEETING 4/9 said...
THE SCHOOL BOARD MEETING
Monday April 9 at 5:00 pm
ANYONE THAT CAN ATTEND PLEASE GO
HAVE FAMILY MEMBERS-FRIENDS-ANYONE
WHO WANTS TO SUPPORT THE MOVE TO THE PIT
PLEASE GO
CALL ME IF YOU KNOW FOR SURE THAT YOU ARE GOING TO ATTEND
SO WE CAN ALL GET TOGETHER BEFORE THAT DATE
MY NUMBER AGAIN IS 994-9648
OR EMAIL ME AT nanee_angel@yahoo.com
April 6, 2007 8:22 PM
The Contract Dr. Cleveland said...
Before any contracts were signed
Note:
RRPS received my comment at the very beginning when this all started - and before any contracts were signed!
The decision to move the 2007 graduation was handled improperly and was the wrong decision. Parents should have been surveyed prior to the decision. Please let me know who was responsible for this decision. The current class sizes are too large to try to graduate anywhere smaller than the Pit. My wife and I have 5 children, one of which graduates this year. My parents, who have already bought airline tickets from Ohio, my wife's parent's and a couple sisters plan to attend just like the past two years. Who do I get to leave home with my allotment of six tickets? I know there will be many other people in the same situation. Do you really expect people to return their six tickets? The only chance I have of letting my family share the occasion is to find some friend who isn't using all of their tickets. I highly recommend you reconsider the decision and keep the Pit location while you still can.
April 6, 2007 8:24 PM
Dr. Cleveland, Mayor Jackson, Corporate Sponsors, The Observer said...
The schools truly try to teach Honesty, Integrity, Fairness, Democracy to name a few.
But SADLY, and I do mean SADLY, they don’t practice what they preach starting at the very TOP!
I copied this from another comment but I really thought it really hit the nail on the head.
Dr. Cleveland, Mayor Jackson, Corporate Sponsors, The Observer this is DISCRIMINATION!
Christian
April 6, 2007 8:32 PM
SCHOOL BOARD MEETING 4/9 said...
THE SCHOOL BOARD MEETING
Monday April 9 at 5:00 pm
ANYONE THAT CAN ATTEND PLEASE GO
HAVE FAMILY MEMBERS-FRIENDS-ANYONE
WHO WANTS TO SUPPORT THE MOVE TO THE PIT
PLEASE GO
CALL ME IF YOU KNOW FOR SURE THAT YOU ARE GOING TO ATTEND
SO WE CAN ALL GET TOGETHER BEFORE THAT DATE
MY NUMBER AGAIN IS 994-9648
OR EMAIL ME AT nanee_angel@yahoo.com
April 7, 2007 7:54 AM
To DR. Cleveland said...
"Precious moments" in time, that is what is special in life.
Watching your son or daughter graduate IN PERSON is an important "precious moment", truly a celebration.
It is not about us it is about THEM!
IT REALLY IS ABOUT ALL OF US!
The graduates have earned it through 12 years of study.
THEIR FAMILIES ARE SO PROUD!
We applaud all of those teachers and school staff that helped them along the way.
Thank you and God Bless.
Dr. Cleveland do the right thing, THOUSANDS ARE BEING ALIENATED from this grand event, your decision is WRONG!
Ross
April 7, 2007 8:06 AM
Me TOO Dr. Cleveland! said...
Each School Board member is sworn in by a judge and their oath of service maintains they must uphold the Constitution of the United States as well as the school's, isn't this a direct violation of "due process", fair process, or any equal and "good faith" standards that adhere to our Constitution and what they were founded on? I have personally heard that Dr. Cleveland is "fair" and we are absolutely counting on that in this matter.
Laurie
April 7, 2007 8:14 AM
go back said...
GO BACK!
April 7, 2007 9:24 AM
Attn: Dr. Sue Cleveland said...
Dr. Cleveland and RRPS,
I believe we have our accurate facts listed here numerous times. So, like an echo, Dr. Cleveland, “it is NOT why you imposed your decision, IT IS HOW you imposed your decision.” I understand you actually took the time to meet with some parents. We all are coming from different points of view but agree on the main issues. I have read the different emails being passed along and I for one need you to understand I fortunately have secured some extra tickets. BUT THERE ARE FOUR FAMILY MEMBERS IN FROM OUT OF TOWN THAT WON’T BE ABLE TO ATTEND AND IT WAS NOT EASY HUSLTING DOWN THE EXTRA ONES EITHER, IT WAS A PAIN. My family won’t have enough there are many more families that also won’t. I want you to know it was VERY difficult figuring who got to go and who didn’t. That is where I agree with the comments calling this matter discrimination. The only reason I was able to secure those tickets is because of all the parents that I know, I really feel for the families that need extra tickets and don’t know as many people that I do. This makes their task all the more difficult. I heard you apologized; I have a much better suggestion, let US VOTE.
EACH SCHOOL BOARD MEMBER IS SWORN IN BY A JUDGE AND THEIR OATH OF SERVICE MAINTAINS THEY MUST UPHOLD THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES AS WELL AS THE SCHOOL'S, ISN'T THIS A DIRECT VIOLATION OF "DUE PROCESS", FAIR PROCESS, OR ANY EQUAL AND "GOOD FAITH" STANDARDS THAT ADHERE TO OUR CONSTITUTION AND WHAT THEY WERE FOUNDED ON? I HAVE PERSONALLY HEARD THAT DR. CLEVELAND IS "FAIR" AND WE ARE ABSOLUTELY COUNTING ON THAT IN THIS MATTER.
Shirley
April 7, 2007 2:09 PM
To Dr. Cleveland said...
Doc let's PACK THE PIT!
Capacity of the Pit:
18,000 plus can fit.
A section is blocked off so now 12,000 can fit.
They had to open up that section for last year’s graduation for us because we had the largest Class, which meant more people.
The 2007 Class is even Bigger, which will mean more people.
The media and school started out saying that 690 Seniors would be graduating; NOW they are saying 770 Seniors are graduating.
That means their figures were off and there will be more people coming.
Do you realize the graduating Class WILL be even bigger as each year goes by?
The section can be opened up so 13,000, 15,000 or up to 18,000 people as needed.
IF YOU DON’T THINK THE NUMBERS ARE CORRECT, CALL THE PIT.
A local newspaper reporter (Gary Herron) is trying to say 11,000 would come BUT remember, he is basing it on what he thinks last years’ numbers were, but he his wrong. Then he suggests that 10 years old and under CANNOT attend the graduation! Can you believe that? He is WRONG on last years’ numbers because they had to open up the section that is closed off, so there were more then 11,000 people present, this means more will come this year along with anyone under the age of 10!
Rio Rancho year in and year out AVERAGES roughly 20 people per graduate. That is an average.
Whatever numbers you want to use the fact remains the same 11,000+ to 15,000+ people are being affected by this decision.
“Let me play the devil’s advocate”, (like Gary did) WHAT IS WRONG WITH RIO RANCHO “PACKING THE PIT” FOR A GRADUATION?
We should be proud we did! Isn’t it true that Sue Cleveland and company, Gary Herron and Coach Brian Smith exhorted and hoped that we would “Pack The Pit” for all of basketball games?
Didn’t Mayor Jackson show his support and come out for the game; I think that is Great that he showed his support over a GAME?
QUOTING: Mayor Kevin Jackson said the development of the city's school district has given Rio Rancho a sense of identity.
"We didn't have that when I was growing up," said Jackson, who has lived in Rio Rancho since the 1960s and plans to attend tonight's championship. "There's an elevation in pride in how well the teams have done, not just in athletics, but in academic, student government and all the student-related programs."
QUOTING: "You saw the crowd tonight," Rio Rancho coach Brian Smith said after the Rams semifinal win Thursday night at The Pit. "There are 70,000 people in Rio Rancho. This place should be packed. Where is everybody?"
I think this was Great too showing support and networking with others!
QUOTING: Sarah Stevenson, a team manager, hung flyers around the sprawling Rio Rancho campus Thursday to promote the game.
"I saw a lot of people stopping to look at them and a lot of people asked me about the game," Stevenson said.
Her mother, who works at a local elementary school, told Stevenson that e-mails about Rams basketball have been flowing into her inbox. Gary did you do these interviews? No that was an Albuquerque Tribune reporter.
Consider then we want to “PACK THE PIT” for a sporting event, AND I DO TOO, why not “PACK THE PIT” for RRPS’s BIGGEST EVENT, their High School Graduation?!
I would hope our Mayor that showed that much enthusiasm for a “game” would show more for the WRONG being imposed on the Class of 2007.
I would hope Sue Cleveland and company, along with Gary Herron and other media that showed that much enthusiasm for a “game” would show more for the WRONG being imposed on the Class of 2007 especially our Seniors our children!
Weren’t we condemned and criticized in the news, in public for our emails and networking to get this situation changed?
Mayor Jackson, Sue Cleveland and company, Gary Herron, the Ryans and other media, which is more important a “game” or a graduation? I feel they are both important.
What about the fact that several thousands are affected men, women and children?
What about the fact an injustice has been dealt them?
What is wrong with anyone striving for:
“We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed, by their Creator, with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness”
“GO BACK TO THE PIT – PACK THE PIT” anyone under 10 are welcome too!
Surely we have legal rights?
Each School Board member is sworn in by a judge and their oath of service maintains they must uphold the Constitution of the United States as well as the school's, isn't this a direct violation of "due process", fair process, or any equal and "good faith" standards that adhere to our Constitution and what they were founded on? I have personally heard that Dr. Cleveland is "fair" and we are absolutely counting on that in this matter.
“Everyone has already heard the arguments for and against returning the graduation ceremony to The Pit so there’s no reason to spend a lot of time rehashing what’s already been said. The only issue left to be decided is what most of the parents want to do. We believe that most of the parents want the ceremony to be held in The Pit. So our only request is that you authorize a vote so that we can see what the parents want. If most of them want to hold the ceremony at the Star Center, then we should hold it at the Star Center; if most of the parents want to return to the Pit, then that’s what we should do. If you feel you can’t authorize a vote, then the only fair decision is to return the ceremony to The Pit given that the decision was made without sufficient public input.
Further, the decision to move the ceremony to the Star Center disproportionately inconveniences larger families, many of whom happen to be Hispanic.”
Lorenzo
April 7, 2007 2:48 PM
To Dr. Cleveland said...
Dear Dr. Cleveland
Read the comments submitted to this website.
The school’s decision is seriously wrong, no matter the reasons this is grossly unjust. I have heard all of the explanations pro and con, and you continue full speed ahead. Sure, life is not fair, but what about right and wrong? You advised some parents “I wish we had it to do over again”. Hmmm…….you have time to do it over again.
1. Allow seniors and their families to vote.
2. Why, because you have already allowed input from some of the public and your staff and then acted on it.
3. You have not allowed input by everyone that is directly affected.
4. You will then know which is location to use.
5. If you don’t allow this vote then take the graduation back to The Pit.
6. Dr. Cleveland you are being advised and influenced by persons that have their own motives and interests. Of course businesses and the mayor offer their support but they are overlooking some critical facts.
7. My motive here is simply this, our children, if you don’t allow this vote or change this back Dr. Cleveland, then you have to understand your decision is discriminatory, unfair and was not done in “good faith”.
8. Further, if you allow your current course to continue you are then absolutely negligent in your constitutional duties that govern not only your subordinates but also our children.
9. Consider if you will, you have had students motivated enough to prepare petitions, you had families come together to question your decision, because no one would listen to their concerns.
10. Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
Darlene
April 7, 2007 7:34 PM
“what we got here is failure to communicate” said...
Dr. Cleveland, RRPS, Mayor Jackson, The Observer,
We all know right from wrong:
“what we got here is failure to communicate”
April 7, 2007 9:10 PM
Call Yvette 994-9648 said...
Yes, Call Yvette 994-9648
We have started a Hard Copy paper PETITION and if you would like to sign it, please call me and I will meet you to get it signed.
My number again is 994-9648.
April 7, 2007 10:03 PM
Happy Easter said...
Happy Easter,
and Dr. Cleveland
"do the right thing"
let us VOTE,
or go back!
April 8, 2007 11:55 AM
GRADUATE OF 2007 said...
HEY EVERYONE SCHOOL BOARD MEETING TOMORROW APRIL 9,2007 WE NEED YOU BE TO THERE BY 5:00PM AT THE SCHOOL DISTRICT OFFICE. WE NEED ALL THE SUPPORT WE CAN GET TO SHOW THEM ITS NOT ONLY A FEW OF US THAT WANT IT AT THE PIT.
ATTN SENIORS: WE NEED ALL OF YOU TO GET A WHITE T-SHIRT SAYING IF THE CHOICE IS OURS WE WANT THE PIT. WEAR THEM TO SCHOOL TOMORROW(MONDAY) AND TO THE SCHOOL BOARD MEETING.
April 8, 2007 1:18 PM
ATTENTION SENIORS: said...
ATTN SENIORS:
WE NEED ALL OF YOU TO GET A WHITE T-SHIRT SAYING IF THE CHOICE IS OURS WE WANT THE PIT. WEAR THEM TO SCHOOL TOMORROW(MONDAY) AND TO THE SCHOOL BOARD MEETING.
April 8, 2007 1:25 PM
Anonymous said...
Is there anything in the state of New Mexico, indoors, with 35,000 seats?
April 8, 2007 7:51 PM
RRPS employee said...
My fellow Rio Rancho Public School employees and Dr. Sue Cleveland:
I for one would like to reflect, “here's a situation that disproportionately affects large families. Is it an ‘unintended consequence’ that most of the large families who will have to pare down their numbers to 6 or 8, are Hispanic?
Is it “arrogance and thoughtlessness” or are we all just “Victims of political posturing”?
Is it true "The proof is in the pudding"?
Is it really discrimination?
Is it ok for The Observer, etc., to batter persons that in truth are only exercising their First Amendment Rights?
Who is really being “underhanded and nasty at best”?
Is it fair anyone under the age of 10 years old can’t attend any graduations?
Is it true families along with their graduates are being adversely affected by this last minute decision?
Is it true the “many” that wanted the graduation here in Rio Rancho because of the 2006 graduation problems, were only “one hundred” people?
Is it true seniors and their families were not allowed to vote?
Is it true this will impact 10 to 14,000 people this year?
Is it true you can break the contract?
Is it true that Dr. Cleveland said, “I wish I had this to do over again” referring the current decision?
Is it true, traveling to the graduation, parking and leaving the graduation is going to make for “one fun day”?
Is it true The Pit is ranked number 13 in the world?
Is it true Mayor Kevin Jackson along with other businesses are doing “all they can to keep this in Rio Rancho”?
Is it true we have an interesting list of “corporate sponsors”?
Is it true that students from “Cibola High School caused most of the uproar at last year’s graduation” and The Observer and all other naysayers have it all wrong by blaming “cousins” and extended family?
Is it true if The Observer actually placed a “real” reporter to ask tough questions that they would have found out that “fact” along with all the others?
Is it true RRPS is keeping the so called “contract” on “the down low” because the “corporate sponsors” “cut us one helluva deal, spanning the next 3 to 5 years and they don’t want to get the next graduation classes for 2008, 2009, and 2010 riled up yet?
Is it true Mr. VonAncken always tells students in his speeches “the choice is yours” but the reality is not this time?
Is it true the school board does not have any Hispanics on it?
Is it true the “parent council” does not have any Hispanics on it?
RRPS employee
April 8, 2007 8:50 PM
African proverb: said...
"It takes a village to raise a child."
"But only part of that village is allowed to attend the child's graduation" S. Andrade
April 8, 2007 9:08 PM
KOAT-TV said...
Newcast on 4/8 stated, the decision to change the graduation from The Pit to the Star Center was principal Richard VonAncken’s decision and that Dr. Sue Cleveland approved Mr. VonAncken's decision. Also, the school board has NO intentions of changing Mr. VonAncken’s decision.
April 8, 2007 9:19 PM
KOAT TV said...
the link:
www.koat.com/video/11577440/index.html?taf=alb
Newcast on 4/8 stated, the decision to change the graduation from The Pit to the Star Center was principal Richard VonAncken’s decision and that Dr. Sue Cleveland approved Mr. VonAncken's decision. Also, the school board has NO intentions of changing Mr. VonAncken’s decision.
April 9, 2007 6:33 AM
Gidge said...
Folks,
Myself, my husband and one other parent met with Dr. Cleveland this morning to discuss the graduation. She was not aware that it had been announced on the news broadcast that the board had no intention of changing. She was curious to know where that came from.
PLEASE SHOW UP TO THE BOARD MEETING TODAY AT 5PM! Dr. Cleveland DID NOT say that they WOULD NOT change it! IF YOU ARE TRULY DISPLEASED WITH THE CURRENT SITUATION, PLEASE MAKE EVERY EFFORT TO ATTEND THE MEETING TODAY!
Gidge
April 9, 2007 10:42 AM
TODAY School Board Meeting said...
School Board Meeting TODAY:
Get there BEFORE 5:30 if at all possible
5 PM is best,
But EVEN if you are running late due to work or traffic,
come anyway,
because they usually cover other matters before people start speaking
so please go ahead and come.
District office, 500 Laser Rd. Rio Rancho, NM 87124
505-896-0667
April 9, 2007 11:46 AM
Anonymous said...
MY SISTER IS GRADUATING AND I WON'T SEE HER. THIS IS UPSETTING COME ON CLEAVLAND WE WANT THE GRADUATION AT THE PIT
April 9, 2007 3:45 PM
LET US VOTE said...
We WANT to vote. America is about DEMOCRACY in accordance to the United States Constitution.
Nick
April 9, 2007 4:06 PM
RRPS School Board Meetin said...
CONGRATULATIONS TO STUDENTS, FAMILIES AND LOVED ONES THAT PACKED THE SCHOOL BOARD MEETING!!
Even several news affiliates made it!!
NOW WE WANT TO PACK THE PIT!
NEXT SCHOOL BOARD IS April 23, 2007
Austin
April 9, 2007 7:05 PM
Anonymous said...
Congratulations for what?
April 9, 2007 7:14 PM
BRAVO!! said...
BRAVO!!
TO ALL STUDENTS, FAMILIES AND LOVED ONES
“For the sake of our children”
PACK THE PIT!
Rod
April 9, 2007 7:38 PM
"Do not go gentle into that good night" said...
SENIORS "Do not go gentle into that good night"
2007 SENIORS ROCK!
Jesse
April 9, 2007 8:05 PM
"Rage, rage against the dying of the light" said...
SENIORS, "Rage, rage against the dying of the light"
SENIOR 2007
Mark
April 9, 2007 8:09 PM
ALL SENIORS said...
SENIORS, “Bless, me now with your fierce tears, I pray…
Do not go gentle into that good night…
Rage, rage against the dying of the light”
ALL SENIORS, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010!
April 9, 2007 8:13 PM
AN EMAIL SENT TO ME said...
"No matter what they (RRPS) end up doing please don't forget,
'The class of 2007 and their families were NOT allowed or asked for input, (the decision) discriminates against ANYONE that needs more than 6 or 8 tickets.'
And because of this 'thousands' are being affected.
Surely they must be better stewards of our children?"
Kenny
April 9, 2007 8:23 PM
Question re: Board meeting said...
Hi, I just caught part of the news coverage on channel 7 and 13 tonight, they showed a brief clip of Dr. V. Sue Cleveland saying "they did things wrong". Can anyone quote everything she said?
Dick
April 9, 2007 9:22 PM
KOAT-TV said...
5TH newscast:
the link:
www.koat.com/video/11593262/index.html?taf=alb
April 9, 2007 10:58 PM
Dr. Cleveland's comments caught on camera said...
Dr. V. Sue Cleveland,
Updated, please disregard my earlier email, thank you.
You stated on camera 04/09/07 that parents were given 4 months notice about your decision.
Feel free to rebut this.
Please know there were several families that never received the “letter” from the school, which informed about the change. It is my understanding that Mrs. Gidget Anaya testified to you concerning how the “letter” arrived. You were advised if parents was not paying attention and did not read thoroughly through all of the documents that were mailed along with the “letter” about the graduation being changed, the “letter” was easily missed. Because the “letter” about the change was not the first document, it was among the other documents but a more “oh by the way” type deal. NO emphasis was given over a very critical matter and letter.
Thanks to KOAT-TV being on the ball that is in part how the information spread that a changed occurred. Further, no one from your office or the principal’s office would return her calls. There were others that did not know because they did not get the letter or see the news story. So, word was reaching a portion of families in March, but not everyone knew.
Dr. Cleveland, from March to April is one month, from April to May would make it 2 months. So roughly 2 months notice were given not 4 months as you stated on camera. Even into late March there were several families that were completely unaware of the change and the news coverage.
I wanted to make sure of this because “The Observer” gave parents hell for misinformation. That also causes me great concern because not everyone received the “letter”?
Again, please rebut any of this.
Everyone is saying things to benefit “their side”, the fact still remains, “thousands” are being affected and your decision is “wrong and discriminatory.”
Parents “in the know” have been trying to contact you since March concerning this, not until 04/06/07 did you finally allow meetings with a few parents. Many more parents wanted to meet with you but could not get time off around the very short notice you gave. And, not until you had put even more effort in keeping the graduation in Rio Rancho and now have tried to rationalize your "wrong"!
Prior to those recent meetings you finally allowed, you were not returning calls, or contacting families that tried to communicate with you. You were “passing them off” to your subordinates that basically were giving families template statements and “it’s a done deal” speech while clinging to the “contract is signed” rhetoric.
SADLY, you and your staff played upon our ignorance, who has the time and energy to really challenge this the way it should be? “The Observer” and the Ryan’s literally “attacked” anyone that dare speak up, “shame on them”! Even “anonymous” persons added their “nasty and bigoted” remarks. Literally putting down relatives and extended family along with telling advertisers to “move back to Mexico. (It now comes out according to you that “Cibola students” were the culprits, and we were falsely accused, but who cared because the attitude was “how dare we”, speak up! Reminds me of “Oliver Twist”, yes a child, asking for “more gruel”!) Dr. Cleveland, regarding “Cibola students” I would caution you to make sure your facts are dead on, that is a very serious accusation, one word “hearsay” and two more words "falsely accused".
I hope one of the families that spoke especially those Rio Rancho students touched your heart, they did mine. I was told you said you "cry at the graduations" and one mother broke down in tears in another meeting with you and told you her graduate had been crying over this!
Stop now Dr. Cleveland before it really is too late, "do the right thing" and change this back! All of your efforts and energy to keep the graduation in Rio Rancho DO NOT RIGHT THIS WRONG!
AN EMAIL SENT TO ME said...
"No matter what they (RRPS) end up doing please don't forget,
'The class of 2007 and their families were NOT allowed or asked for input, (the decision) discriminates against ANYONE that needs more than 6 or 8 tickets.'
And because of this 'thousands' are being affected.
Surely they must be better stewards of our children?"
Surely we have legal rights?
Each School Board member is sworn in by a judge and their oath of service maintains they must uphold the Constitution of the United States as well as the school's, isn't this a direct violation of "due process", fair process, or any equal and "good faith" standards that adhere to our Constitution and what they were founded on? We have personally heard that Dr. Cleveland is "fair" and we are absolutely counting on that in this matter.
“Everyone has already heard the arguments for and against returning the graduation ceremony to The Pit so there’s no reason to spend a lot of time rehashing what’s already been said. The only issue left to be decided is what most of the parents want to do. We believe that most of the parents want the ceremony to be held in The Pit. So our only request is that you authorize a vote so that we can see what the parents want. If most of them want to hold the ceremony at the Star Center, then we should hold it at the Star Center; if most of the parents want to return to the Pit, then that’s what we should do. If you feel you can’t authorize a vote, then the only fair decision is to return the ceremony to The Pit given that the decision was made without sufficient public input.
Further, the decision to move the ceremony to the Star Center disproportionately inconveniences larger families, many of whom happen to be Hispanic.”
Hello,
Please know that this matter is NOT OVER, we are picking up steam because "This last minute decision has affected all of the graduating Seniors for 2007, 2008, 2009 and 2010 along with their families and loved ones"
Attention: Seniors, Parents, Guardians, Families, Relatives, Students and concerned persons
REMEMBER THIS DECISION WILL AFFECT ALL GRADUATING SENIORS, THEIR FAMILIES AND LOVED ONES NOW 2007 & OVER THE NEXT 4 YEARS OR UNTIL THE NEW SCHOOL IS OPEN!
GREAT NEWS!!
THE PIT IS STILL AVAILABLE ON MAY 19TH
AND THEY WILL NOT BE BOOKING THAT TIME AND DATE FOR ANYONE
IT IS STILL OPEN!!!
Please visit the web log, copy and paste this into your browser
http://rioranchogradsunite.blogspot.com/
You can also email: cmj2nc@aol.com if you have any problems posting comments on the blog, thank you.
We are a group of families that would like to have the Class of 2007 Graduation returned to "The PIT."
At minimum, let’s put this matter to a fair vote.
We are respectfully asking Dr. Sue Cleveland to make the decision to return to "The PIT."
RRPS has broken contracts before and can break this contract now and go "BACK TO THE PIT."
We need all persons that want the Graduation to be returned to "The PIT" to let your voice be heard.
In an unprecedented administrative decision, input was NOT allowed, requested or regarded by everyone affected. Only certain voices were heard.
This last minute decision has affected all of the graduating Seniors for 2007, 2008, 2009 and 2010 along with their families and loved ones.
Due to this last minute decision over 10,000 people will not be able to attend the 2007 graduation.
We have heard all the reasons and explanations given by the administration and strongly feel they do not outweigh the fact that a fair process did not occur in the first place concerning this matter.
Please go online now. We have every right to be heard. "It’s not over till it’s over."
BACK TO THE Pit
FAMILY AND friends of Rio Rancho High School graduates DISCUSSION GROUP
Please visit the web log, copy and paste this into your browser
http://rioranchogradsunite.blogspot.com/
You can also email: cmj2nc@aol.com if you have any problems posting comments on the blog, thank you.
April 10, 2007 7:20 AM
KRQE 1ST newscast: said...
KRQE
1ST newscast:
the link:
http://www.krqe.com/video/expanded.asp?ID=6352
April 10, 2007 8:37 AM
Rio Rancho Journal said...
http://www.abqjournal.com/riorancho/553616west_news04-10-07.htm
Tuesday, April 10, 2007
School Boss Sorry for Graduation Flap
By Elaine D. Briseño
Journal Staff Writer
People attending the Rio Rancho school board meeting to complain about the change of venue for this year's high school graduation did not get what they wanted— the ceremony returned to Albuquerque— but they did get an apology from the superintendent.
Parents, students and others showed up at Monday's Rio Rancho Public Schools board meeting to speak for and against the district's recent decision to switch this year's graduation ceremony from the University of New Mexico Pit to the smaller Santa Ana Star Center in Rio Rancho. The attendees filled the board room and spilled into the hallway. The item was not on the agenda but they spoke about the issue during public comment. The board took no action.
In total, 10 people spoke about the change and of those, seven were opposed. The main complaint is that the switch to the smaller venue limits the number of guests students can invite to the ceremony. Each student will be given eight tickets and will have a chance to get extra ones from those that were not claimed, or from their friends. Some who spoke said that even extra tickets will not be sufficient.
Yvette Aragon has two daughters graduating this year. She has six siblings and her husband has 13. She said in an interview during the meeting that there is no way everyone will be able to attend with the venue change.
"I'm upset at the way they went about this," she said. "There was no parent or senior input."
The decision to change the ceremony location was made by RRPS administration and Rio Rancho High School principal Richard VonAncken in February. There was no official process to determine whether the change would be preferred by students or parents.
During the meeting, Superintendent Sue Cleveland apologized to families for making the decision late in the year.
"We did not handle this very well," she said. "It should have been done earlier. Nobody wanted to hurt families or the kids."
Parent Ben Johnson, whose daughter will graduate from RRHS in 2008, spoke in favor of the change. He said he prefers the smaller venue in Rio Rancho. Two other parents also spoke in favor of the venue change, saying it would be more intimate, safer and a way to show support for the city and its businesses.
The Pit can accommodate more than 18,000 with standing room while the capacity at Santa Ana is between 6,000 and 7,000. However, Cleveland said the number at the Pit is reduced to 14,000 for high school graduations.
Cleveland said one reason the district made the change was to allow the officials to have better crowd control than last year. She said the 2006 RRHS graduation followed Cibola High School's graduation, which is a huge Rio Rancho rival.
"The goal was to ensure that our graduates this year did not have to experience that," she said. "We feel badly about it."
Kristen Kenneth, a 2006 RRHS graduate, said before Cleveland made her statement that the class of 2007 should not be punished for what happened last year. Kenneth's boyfriend will graduate this year, but she probably will not be able to attend because of the limited seating.
"We sit here and talk about the community being in our district but you are not allowing the community to be involved because you are limiting the seats," she said. "This should not be about having it in Rio Rancho. It's about the students having their family and loved ones there. This is not right."
April 10, 2007 9:42 AM
"This is not right" said...
Like the saying goes “Out of the mouths of our babies”, I could not have said it any better, her comment really says it all.
Neal
Kristen Kenneth, a 2006 RRHS graduate, said before Cleveland made her statement that the class of 2007 should not be punished for what happened last year. Kenneth's boyfriend will graduate this year, but she probably will not be able to attend because of the limited seating.
"We sit here and talk about the community being in our district but you are not allowing the community to be involved because you are limiting the seats," she said. "This should not be about having it in Rio Rancho. It's about the students having their family and loved ones there. This is not right."
April 10, 2007 9:57 AM
To Dr. Cleveland and Families affected said...
Some GREAT reading here.
After taking the time to really consider all of the reasons the administration decided to change our graduation. I have concluded beyond a shadow of a doubt that their reasons are self-serving.
Their decisions discriminate against families and graduates and do not allow everyone to have a voice in this decision. It also places hardship, stress and is a serious distraction in people’s lives. It was completely one sided.
At this time if they would allow us to vote they would lose. They will not allow us to vote at all costs.
Now this will take legal action.
They are not listening and not conceding they are wrong. If the "good Doctor" were truly sorry she would send the graduation back to The Pit.
Additionally, it is overtly obvious that there is a vast difference between the coverage on the news and the quality of the journalism concerning the Rio Rancho Observer, G. Herron, the Rio Rancho Journal, specifically the Ryans and the Tribune.
Specifically, Herron and the Ryans editorial were both very offensive and poorly put together, "under handed and nasty, at best" with points that make no connections, other then to back the status quo. They never addressed the serious issues and made light of the fact a vote or fair input was not allowed; tickets are an obstacle; too bad for anyone’s extended family; and discriminated against persons concerning their age!
(Herron) actually placed an age limit on the event! They degraded and shamed families for requesting relief and made their best argument to tell them to shut up, using because we told you so thinking, were smart your not, we know you don’t logic.
The other Journal and Tribune reporters presented the information that was given to them in a balanced manner.
NOTE: Our very own newspaper in "the city of vision" the Observer has NOT interviewed ANYONE that opposes this decision! Repeat has NOT!
Which now more then ever begs to ask…..WHY?
Can anyone say,
"Conflict of Interest"
Or
"Corporate Partners"
Go Back to The Pit.
Randy
April 10, 2007 1:01 PM
YEAH!! "This is not right"!! said...
YES, literally “Out of the mouths of our babies”
Juanita
From the RR Journal -
Kristen Kenneth, a 2006 RRHS graduate, said before Cleveland made her statement that the class of 2007 should not be punished for what happened last year. Kenneth's boyfriend will graduate this year, but she probably will not be able to attend because of the limited seating.
"We sit here and talk about the community being in our district but you are not allowing the community to be involved because you are limiting the seats," she said. "This should not be about having it in Rio Rancho. It's about the students having their family and loved ones there. This is not right."
April 10, 2007 1:46 PM
To Dr. Cleveland - important said...
MY NAME IS LATISHA AND I AM 11 YEARS OLD I HAVE A SISTER WHO IS A GRADUATE AND I AM VERY SAD TO HEAR WHAT IS HAPPENING. I WAS TOLD THAT I MIGHT HAVE TO STAY HOME. I LOOK UP TO MY SISTER AND I AM PROUD OF HER. SHE HAS WORKED HARD TO GET TO WHERE SHE IS. I CRIED WHEN MY MOM TOLD ME AND MY BROTHER WHO IS 7YEARS OLD THE NEWS PAPER SAID THAT THEY SHOULD LEAVE 10 AN YOUNGER AT HOME AM I SUPOSE TO WATCH MY BROTHER INSTEAD OF MY SISTER GRADUATE? I DONT KNOW WHY THE SCHOOL BOARD WANTS TO DO THIS TO MY FAMILY AND LOTS OF OTHER FAMILYS ALSO. IT SADDENS ME BECAUSE I WILL GRADUATE SOME DAY AND I DONT WANT THIS TO HAPPEN TO ME. CAN SOME ONE PLEASE HELP ME SO I SEE MY SISTER GRADUATE. I WOULD LIKE TO GO TO THE PIT SO I CAN GO WITH MY GRANDMA AND GRANDPA AND MY ANTIES I LOVE MY SISTER PLEASE BACK TO THE PIT. SAD IN RIO RANCHO LATISHA
April 10, 2007 8:30 PM
To Dr. Sue Cleveland said...
YOU MADE A DECISION AFFECTING THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE
MEN, WOMEN AND CHILDREN
WITHOUT GIVING PROPER NOTICE,
WITHOUT ALLOWING DISCUSSION,
WITHOUT TAKING INTO ACCOUNT DISSENTING OPINIONS!
Julie
April 10, 2007 8:36 PM
To Dr. Sue Cleveland said...
I am 18 years old and will be graduating this year. My grandfather will not be able to go because we won't have enough tickets. Everyone I have asked also needs tickets. I understand why the principal changed OUR graduation and you approved it. This is OUR graduation, it is not your graduation or the families from last year that got mad, or the students from other schools. It is OUR graduation. My question to you is do you really understand what you did is wrong? My grandfather will not go to the PAC and we don't have cable. You have disregarded the sacred unity of family. If you think you apology excuses you, you have hurt my family and me. We have done nothing to any of you to deserve this. Sorry does not cut it. I am old enough to understand right from wrong. This will be a bad memory for me. Too bad my year was going ok this has really ruined it. The newspaper said we have to learn life is hard, I already know life is hard I’ve had enough bad things happen to my family. Maybe all of you need to learn life is hard and change OUR graduation back.
2007 SENIORS RULE
April 10, 2007 9:02 PM
GRADUATION ISSUES said...
I don’t know what I should write here but it looks like we covered everything, please add my email to this website. Thank you. To whom it may concern don't hurt the kids they worked hard all year. Then this, sincerely,
Lou
April 10, 2007 9:08 PM
Why? said...
Dr. Cleveland,
You only graduate one time from high school, sure the parents make a big to do about it and they should. Their son or daughter are blessings from God. We have enough problems in the world, why add to it?
Eleanor
April 10, 2007 9:18 PM
“RIGHT FROM WRONG" - "THIS IS NOT RIGHT" said...
At one end you have the Rio Rancho superintendent.
On the other end the have the Rio Rancho mayor.
Smack in the middle you have a Rio Rancho 2006 graduate.
When you consider all three, there is genuine HOPE!
Not from the adults, but rather the TEENAGER, the graduate!
WHY?
Because thank God and her loved ones she can really see and grasp “RIGHT FROM WRONG” and then acted on it!
There is HOPE for The City of Vision because of persons like this young lady.
I would guess for any of us that have had children and have watched them grow, we have given our best so that they would understand “right from wrong”.
Simple enough, because we all assume everyone knows “right from wrong”, right… wrong?
Of course the reality of life is, not everyone acts upon “right from wrong” or how we interpret what is right and what is wrong.
Of the three persons already mentioned here, surely she had other important matters in her life then to go sit for several hours before addressing the superintendent and the school board.
What prompted her?
Is it possible that genuine compassion and a great handle on “right from wrong” motivated her?
Motives:
Clearly her motives are pure; can the superintendent and the mayor say the same?
NO, because they have both failed miserably in this situation concerning “right from wrong”.
Regarding certain aspects, the superintendent admitted to being wrong, although she is quoted in the newspaper in March as saying, “I do understand the concern people have about it, she added.”
What a difference just one month makes.
Had she polled all the families affected prior to making the decision she would have learned the truth back then.
She told a parent on Good Friday, that, “we wish we had this to do over again” and “I wish we had done things differently”! This would be a semblance of “right from wrong”.
But now she must act on it.
Interestingly, the young graduate, did not have to poll all of the families, to know “right from wrong”, she considered the situation, saw the pros, saw the cons and told them all “this is not right”!
Dr. Cleveland,
YOU STILL CAN DO IT “OVER AGAIN”!
YOU STILL CAN DO “THINGS DIFFERENTLY”!
DON’T YOU SEE, “THIS IS NOT RIGHT”!
PLEASE LISTEN TO THIS YOUNG GRADUATE.
SHE HAS A MUCH BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF “RIGHT FROM WRONG”.
PUT HER ON YOUR STAFF.
SHE COULD RUN FOR MAYOR.
I am still empowered by her speech and her willingness to truly make a difference in the lives of others.
Thank you very much.
From the Rio Rancho Journal April 9th school board meeting -
Kristen Kenneth, a 2006 RRHS graduate, said before Cleveland made her statement that the class of 2007 should not be punished for what happened last year. Kenneth's boyfriend will graduate this year, but she probably will not be able to attend because of the limited seating.
"We sit here and talk about the community being in our district but you are not allowing the community to be involved because you are limiting the seats," she said. "This should not be about having it in Rio Rancho. It's about the students having their family and loved ones there. This is not right."
April 10, 2007 9:19 PM
Call Yvette 994-9648 said...
We have the Hard Copy paper PETITION please call me and I will meet you to get it signed. Please pass my number to other families thank you.
April 11, 2007 6:09 AM
School Board Meeting on 4/9/07 said...
Hello,
Can anyone access KOAT and KRQE to get a copy of the raw footage of everyone speaking? We heard there was excellent comments by the “magnificent 7” that spoke. It would be great to get a copy. I understand they only sell the footage of the newscast.
Very interested in hearing the president of the school board’s attitude, can anyone go into detail about that? Or into anything else that happened?
Jonah
April 11, 2007 5:47 PM
Know your School Board Members said...
The five-member, elected School Board is the statutory governing body for the school district.
The board is responsible for establishing overall direction and district policy.
Under state law, the board hires the district Superintendent.
Know your School Board Members
AND KNOW WHEN THEIR TERM EXPIRES.
We need honest compassionate people
that know what is just and unjust.
Not like this current crew:
District 5
Lisa Cour, PRESIDENT
Elected: February 4, 1997
Re-elected: March 12, 2001
Re-elected: Feb. 14, 2005
Term Expires: 2009
District 1
Don J. Schlichte, Member
Elected: March 12, 2001
Re-elected: Feb. 14, 2005
Term Expires: 2009
District 2
Marty Scharfglass, Vice President
Elected: February 4, 2003
Re-elected: February 6, 2007
Term Expires: 2011
District 3
Margaret M. Terry,
Secretary
Elected: March 12, 2001
Re-elected: Feb. 14, 2005
Term Expires: 2009
District 4
Divyesh N. Patel, Member
Elected: February 6, 2007
Term Expires: 2011
If they were JUST, they’d be the FIRST ones telling,
Dr. Cleveland that this decision was WRONG!
If you take offense to my sentiments about members of the board,
please know if they were truly genuine they would be the very first to get this changed with out anyone having to bat an eye or speak up.
That’s a fact
Jack
April 11, 2007 6:09 PM
call The Observer said...
Anyone that would like to give the Observer a story
please
encourage everyone you know to
call the Observer
892-8080
Betta
April 11, 2007 7:35 PM
Seniors 2007 said...
“NOW IS THE TIME
FOR ALL GOOD PEOPLE
TO COME TO THE AID
OF THEIR 2007 SENIORS”
April 11, 2007 7:43 PM
TO Dr. Sue Cleveland said...
In the winter of 99 I had a wonderful conversation with a young lady that was passionate about helping children-students-families.
What was most remarkable was she was dedicated to the task.
Sadly now I see and read about that same young lady embroiled in a controversial change.
So we don’t agree on where to hold graduation that I can live with.
It is the HOW that is being carried out and at any cost to keep it in Rio Rancho that causes me distress.
Dr. Susan Cleveland, take a look back 7-8 years when your heart was in the right place.
We all know it can be changed.
They are going to get your business sometime in the future anyway.
Change this back or put it to a vote.
Sincerely again,
Thomas
April 11, 2007 7:52 PM
SENIORS 2007 said...
I Won’t Back Down
Well I won't back down
No I won't back down
You can stand me up at the gates of hell
But I won't back down
No I'll stand my ground, won't be turned around
And I'll keep this world from draggin me down
gonna stand my ground
... and I won't back down
(I won't back down...)
Hey baby, there ain't no easy way out
(and I won't back down...)
hey I will stand my ground
… and I won't back down
Well I know what's right, I got just one life
in a world that keeps on pushin me around
but I'll stand my ground
...and I won't back down
Hey baby, there ain't no easy way out
hey I won't back down
hey baby, there ain't no easy way out
hey I will stand my ground
and I won't back down
No I won't back down...
(thanks Tom)
April 11, 2007 8:10 PM
To Dr. Sue Cleveland said...
"I have not yet begun to fight"
2007 - SENIORS
April 11, 2007 8:20 PM
Calling ALL Seniors said...
Calling ALL Seniors, and the Class of 2008, 2009, 2010!
Take our graduation Back to The Pit!
THIS BAD DECISION AFFECTS ALL OF US!
Rio Rancho Students
April 11, 2007 9:28 PM
TO DR. V. SUE CLEVELAND said...
THERE ARE GREAT COMMENTS HERE.
DON’T READ SOME OF THEM.
READ ALL OF THEM.
THEY ARE ALL TO YOU.
GO BACK TO THE PIT.
OR LET US VOTE.
Samuel
April 11, 2007 9:33 PM
Mayor to Hold Town Hall Meeting said...
PWELLS@ci.rio-rancho.nm.us
Mayor Kevin M. Jackson to Hold Town Hall
For Immediate Release
April 5, 2007
RIO RANCHO, NM - Rio Rancho Mayor Kevin M. Jackson will hold his first town
hall meeting on Thursday, April 12, 2007 from 7:00PM to 8:00PM in the
Governing Body Chambers located in Rio Rancho City Hall.
Mayor Jackson will provide updates regarding the recently concluded New
Mexico State Legislative Session and information about the City's new
Central Business District. Mayor Jackson will also address questions that
are submitted by the audience.
"I encourage residents to attend this town hall meeting. Two-way
communication between citizens and government is critical. I believe this
town hall meeting will provide a unique opportunity to hear from residents
regarding issues relevant to our City as well as providing valuable updates
to the community," said Mayor Jackson.
The town hall meeting will be open to the public. For more information
residents may call 505-896-8727 or via e-mail at
feedbackform@ci.rio-rancho.nm.us
Peter Wells
Communications & Civic Outreach
Division Manager
City of Rio Rancho
3900 Southern Blvd SE
Rio Rancho, NM 87124
Office (505) 896-8727
Fax (505) 891-5205
Cell (505) 220-6078
April 12, 2007 8:11 AM
2007 Senior said...
"I think we're going to keep pushing this until the week before graduation,"
"YOU GO GIRL!"
April 12, 2007 11:04 AM
2007 SENIORS said...
When we chronicle RRPS, the 2007 GRADUATION will be remembered that Mr. Duncan, Mr. VonAncken, Lisa Cour, Dr. Sue Cleveland, Mayor Jackson and the Observer played the starring roles.
The great thing is there is a growing “paper trail” to confirm the horrible down and dirty comments all in the newspaper.
WE were ridiculed for not having our facts right and for voicing legitimate concerns. Yet, every time you read or hear the news, their story changes or their facts are wrong.
What happened to
FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHTS,
CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS,
DEMOCRACY
and ALL
that AMERICA stands for?
Aren’t these the very things our SOLDIERS are at WAR for right this second?
How can everyone mentioned here DISMISS these critical points?
April 12, 2007 1:28 PM
TODAY Town Hall Meeting said...
PWELLS@ci.rio-rancho.nm.us
Mayor Kevin M. Jackson to Hold Town Hall
For Immediate Release
April 5, 2007
RIO RANCHO, NM - Rio Rancho Mayor Kevin M. Jackson will hold his first town
hall meeting on Thursday, April 12, 2007 from 7:00PM to 8:00PM in the
Governing Body Chambers located in Rio Rancho City Hall.
Mayor Jackson will provide updates regarding the recently concluded New
Mexico State Legislative Session and information about the City's new
Central Business District. Mayor Jackson will also address questions that
are submitted by the audience.
"I encourage residents to attend this town hall meeting. Two-way
communication between citizens and government is critical. I believe this
town hall meeting will provide a unique opportunity to hear from residents
regarding issues relevant to our City as well as providing valuable updates
to the community," said Mayor Jackson.
The town hall meeting will be open to the public. For more information
residents may call 505-896-8727 or via e-mail at
feedbackform@ci.rio-rancho.nm.us
Peter Wells
Communications & Civic Outreach
Division Manager
City of Rio Rancho
3900 Southern Blvd SE
Rio Rancho, NM 87124
Office (505) 896-8727
Fax (505) 891-5205
Cell (505) 220-6078
April 12, 2007 5:22 PM
echarles1234@aol.com said...
If you are against the move to return to THE PIT, email echarles1234@aol.com with your comments.
Thank you
April 12, 2007 8:22 PM
GREAT NEWS said...
GREAT NEWS
THE PIT still available 5/19
I called The UNM PIT today,
IT IS TRUE THE PIT STILL OPEN on 05/19/07
Please tell everyone this is far from over.
It beckons us to return
Andrew
April 12, 2007 8:33 PM
SKYBOXES said...
Who gets the Skyboxes?
April 12, 2007 8:34 PM
Our family supports said...
Our family supports the return of the 2007 graduation to The Pit
Vivian
April 12, 2007 8:40 PM
Rio Rancho Hillbillies said...
"Corporate Partners"
Come and listen to a story about a woman named Sue
A poor mountaineer, barely kept her staff at school,
Then one day she was shootin’ at some food,
And up through the ground came up somethin’ crude.
"Corporate Partners" that is, fools gold, excess tea.
Y'all come back now, y'hear?.
RE: The Observer newspaper (April and August Fools)
Santa Ana Website, declares that the OBSERVER is "Corporate Partners", with guess who?
BOTH the casino and the center!
Kissin’ cousins!
They have not done an actual news report on a parent that is against the graduation change?
Both the Journal and Tribune interviewed parents.
Then how come our very own newspaper in our city has not interviewed anyone?
List of "Corporate Partners" of The Santa Ana Star Center:
SANTA ANA STAR CASINO
THE RIO RANCHO OBSERVER
99.3 KOB FM
770 KKOB
Mew Mexico's CW
Perfection Honda
JohnnyBoards LLC
First Community Bank
Qwest
Crystal Springs
O'Hare's Grille & Pub / Hot Tamales
Rio Rancho Printing
April 12, 2007 9:08 PM
Rio Rancho Hillbillies said...
Well the first thing you know ol Sue doesn’t care,
Kinfolk said "Sue move away from there"
Said "Star Center is the place you ought to fill"
So they loaded up the truck and moved back up the hill.
Hills, that is. April fools, “Corporate Pards”
"Corporate Pards" of The Santa Ana Star Center:
SANTA ANA STAR CASINO
THE RIO RANCHO OBSERVER
99.3 KOB FM
770 KKOB
Mew Mexico's CW
Perfection Honda
JohnnyBoards LLC
First Community Bank
Qwest
Crystal Springs
O'Hare's Grille & Pub / Hot Tamales
Rio Rancho Printing
April 12, 2007 9:22 PM
Rio Rancho Hillbillies said...
Well now its time to say good by to Sue and Vonakin.
And they would like to thank you folks fer kindly droppin in.
You're all invited back a gain to this locality
To have a heapin helpin of their hospitality
Rio Rancho Hillybilly that is. Set a spell, Take your shoes off.
Y'all come back now, y'hear?
April 12, 2007 9:27 PM
CAN U BELIEVE IT said...
CAN U BELIEVE IT?
THERE ARE FAMILIES WITH SISTERS, BROTHERS, GRANDPARENTS, COUSINS, RELATIVES AND LOVED ONES THAT ARE IN THE MILITARY OR ARE VETERANS AND FOUGHT FOR OUR FREEDOM IN CURRENT AND PAST WARS!
DEFENDERS OF AMERICA AND ALL THAT WE STAND FOR!
BUT WILL NOT GET TO GO TO THIS GRADUATION BECAUSE OF AN ILLEGAL DECISION!
SAY WHAT U SAY, THE DECISION DID NOT ALLOW INPUT BY EVERYONE DIRECTLY AFFECTED, THE SENIORS AND FAMILIES OF 2007.
CAN U BELIEVE IT?
WE KNOW WORLD WAR II, KOREAN WAR, VIETNAM, GULF WAR, AFGHANISTAN AND IRAQ VETERANS THAT WILL NOT BE ALLOWED TO GO!
BUT IF THE GRADUATION WAS AT THE PIT THEY COULD GO WITHOUT ANY RESTRICTIONS.
MIKE
April 12, 2007 9:46 PM
matches malone said...
i'll see ya' all at 1
April 12, 2007 9:46 PM
President Lisa Cour said...
RRPS & President Lisa Cour said,
“To the 2007 Graduating Class”
After 12-13 years of working towards graduating, we hoped you have learned.
We hoped you have learned to discriminate and impose your will on others.
Especially, don't use anything we taught you about "Democracy", rather, “do as I say, not as I do” is a much more advantageous edict.
Bottom line, President Lisa Cour said, "Life has its little disappointments and we deal with it". Too bad so sad, because you have to deal with it. I'm not sure why Sue broke down and admitted to any wrong doing, because I'm telling you all to "deal with it".
You should cater to our wishes our demands no matter how many are unfairly treated and WILL LOSE MONEY due to travel plans and other purchases, "My (decision) should be a sire-level decision as to where to have the high school graduation (and) was approved by the administration and this one is (also) supported by the board”.
So you see we ALL are in cahoots on this one even the Mayor has helped.
Further, I can talk down and be condescending and disrespectful to anyone of you and at any time, "deal with it".
To RRPS and Lisa Cour,
We are
AMERICANS
not
ameri-can'ts!
All I am saying is this,
R U AN AMERI-CAN
OR
AN AMERI-CAN'T?
…..That is all I am asking.
”Nana”
April 13, 2007 7:11 AM
Attn: Dr. Cleveland and Lisa Cour said...
Dr. Cleveland and Lisa Cour,
Your "sire-level decision" is discriminatory!
Your apology Dr. Cleveland falls way short, it does not even begin to heal the injury you have caused to thousands! You need to return the graduation to the Pit.
Lisa Cour, I am very aware of the disrespectful manner you have addressed people with. WE the tax paying voters should have had input in this "sire-level decision", but your arrogance explains your decision, the problems and this weak apology for a tremendous wrong to seniors and families. You expose yourself with your explanation.
Jeanne
April 13, 2007 10:21 AM
To Cleveland Cour Jackson said...
“Absolute power corrupts”.Not everyone was allowed to have a voice in this decision that were most affected.Both families and graduates without a doubt have been discriminated against, additionally, any 10 years olds and under according to Mr. Herron.Only those at the "sire-level” that wanted it in Rio Rancho.It is truly disgusting how pompous and blind those in charge of our children are?How true that “only those that "griped, whined and were "greedy" the very loudest” were allowed input”.
“Absolute power corrupts, absolutely”!
Kris
April 13, 2007 12:33 PM
"sire-level decision" said...
WE the TAX PAYING VOTERS should have had input in this "sire-level decision".
Put it another way, if you did, no one at RRPS would have to apologize, right?
You running around getting the Mayor to help you cover your tracks as you try to create more seats is ridiculous.
It confirms how WRONG your "sire-level decision" is.
The “proof is in the proverbial pudding” Sue, Lisa, Kevin, Richard, Gary.
Donald
April 13, 2007 1:02 PM
Anonymous said...
BULL SQUAT,
Sorry for my Texas accent but what else could I write to let you know how messed up this is?
Dr. Cleveland the mayor and Lisa “I’m better then you” Cour are ALL full of it!
I sure as hell don’t subscribe to "sire-level decision" thinking!
I was taught “of the people, by the people, for the people", you all must have ditched that day?
Hell, "sire-level decision", that’s something right out of a dictator’s handbook!
GET REAL!
Scott
April 13, 2007 1:38 PM
Resign Dr. Cleveland right now! said...
I am very upset over how this entire matter has been handled from top to bottom! I don’t want to curse here but I am completely ANGRY! Business is business the buck stops with Dr. Cleveland. If she can’t open her eyes and see the harm done, she needs to resign her position. Name that school after someone that deserves it. Those punk lackey writers in the newspaper are dumber and dumber THEY DO NOT TELL ME HOW TO RAISE MY CHILDREN, EVER!!! NOR DO THEY TELL ME MY 10 YEAR OLD CAN’T COME SEE THEIR BROTHER GRADUATE! I HAVE VOTED EVERYTIME A VOTE WAS NEEDED! HOW DARE THEY LUMP ME IN WITH PERSONS THEY FEEL ARE NEGLIGENT! RETIRE HERRON AND RYANS OR CHANGE YOUR OCCUPATION. HERRON HOW COME YOU OR YOUR NEWSPAPER HAS NOT INTEVIEWED A FAMILY AGAINST THIS DECISION? WHERE THE HELL IS ACTION JACKSON IN ALL THIS? OH, AND THE RANTER IN THE NEWSPAPER, YOU MAKE ME SICK HOW “AMERICAN” YOU THINK YOU ARE! SPELL THIS B-I-G-O-T, I KNOW YOU’RE ONE BECAUSE I’M WHITE LIKE YOU FOOL!
Lynn
April 13, 2007 4:20 PM
Call Yvette 994-9648 said...
We have the Hard Copy paper PETITION please call me and I will meet you to get it signed. Please pass my number to other families thank you.
April 13, 2007 4:21 PM
"of the people, by the people, for the people" said...
“that we here highly resolve that these dead shall not have died in vain--that this nation, under God, shall have a new birth of freedom--and that government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth."
April 13, 2007 4:43 PM
IMUS said...
Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary,
I learned and I was wrong. I hope you learn your lesson too. Hey, wrong is wrong. y'all need to do the right thing and I mean pronto. I didn't say Tonto, I said pronto. What I said was discrimination what you are doing is discrimination. And Gary….you really said 10 year olds can’t go? Gary, Gary, Gary…..tisk….
Don
April 13, 2007 5:45 PM
We few, we happy few, we band of brothers said...
The comments already placed on this blog sum up the entire matter. All we need now is a minor miracle that Sue Cleveland comes to her senses. Count me in to keep up the fight. How about it Sue, don’t you believe in miracles?
Barry
April 13, 2007 8:17 PM
For the Public said...
"The problem of power is how to achieve its responsible use, rather than its irresponsible and indulgent use- how to make people of power live for the public, rather than off the public."
April 13, 2007 8:52 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary, said...
"Fear not the path of truth for the lack of people walking on it."
2007 Seniors
April 13, 2007 9:25 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary, said...
“There are those who look at things the way they are, and ask why... I dream of things that never were and ask why not."
2007 Seniors
April 13, 2007 9:26 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary, said...
"Few men are willing to brave the disapproval of their fellows, the censure of their colleagues, the wrath of society. Moral courage is a rarer commodity than bravery in battle or great intelligence. Yet it is the one essential, vital, quality for those who seek to change a world which yields most painfully to change."
2007 Seniors
April 13, 2007 9:27 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary, said...
"Few will have the greatness to bend history; but each of us can work to change a small portion of events, and in the total of all those acts will be written the history of this generation ... It is from numberless diverse acts of courage and belief that human history is thus shaped. Each time a man stands up for an ideal, or acts to improve the lot of others, or strikes out against injustice, he sends forth a tiny ripple of hope, and crossing each other from a million different centers of energy and daring, those ripples build a current which can sweep down the mightiest walls of oppression and resistance."
2007 Seniors
April 13, 2007 9:28 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary, said...
"The church to which most of the white population belongs teaches apartheid as a moral necessity. A questioner declared that few churches allow black Africans to pray with the white because the Bible says that is the way it should be, because God created Negroes to serve. "But suppose God is black", I replied. "What if we go to Heaven and we, all our lives, have treated the Negro as an inferior, and God is there, and we look up and He is not white? What then is our response?" There was no answer. Only silence."
2007 Seniors
April 13, 2007 9:29 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary, said...
"Laws can embody standards; governments can enforce laws--but the final task is not a task for government. It is a task for each and every one of us. Every time we turn our heads the other way when we see the law flouted--when we tolerate what we know to be wrong--when we close our eyes and ears to the corrupt because we are too busy, or too frightened--when we fail to speak up and speak out--we strike a blow against freedom and decency and justice."
2007 Seniors
April 13, 2007 9:30 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
Know your School Board Members
The five-member, elected School Board is the statutory governing body for the school district.
The board is responsible for establishing overall direction and district policy.
Under state law, the board hires the district Superintendent.
Know your School Board Members
AND KNOW WHEN THEIR TERM EXPIRES.
We need honest compassionate people
that know what is just and unjust.
Not like this current crew:
District 5
Lisa Cour, PRESIDENT
Elected: February 4, 1997
Re-elected: March 12, 2001
Re-elected: Feb. 14, 2005
Term Expires: 2009
District 1
Don J. Schlichte, Member
Elected: March 12, 2001
Re-elected: Feb. 14, 2005
Term Expires: 2009
District 2
Marty Scharfglass, Vice President
Elected: February 4, 2003
Re-elected: February 6, 2007
Term Expires: 2011
District 3
Margaret M. Terry,
Secretary
Elected: March 12, 2001
Re-elected: Feb. 14, 2005
Term Expires: 2009
District 4
Divyesh N. Patel, Member
Elected: February 6, 2007
Term Expires: 2011
If they were JUST, they’d be the FIRST ones telling,
Dr. Cleveland that this decision was WRONG!
If you take offense to my sentiments about members of the board,
please know if they were truly genuine they would be the very first to get this changed with out anyone having to bat an eye or speak up.
That’s a fact
Jack
April 14, 2007 8:01 AM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
"Those who fail to know their history are doomed to repeat it"
"In every stage of these Oppressions We have Petitioned for Redress in the most humble terms: Our repeated Petitions have been answered only by repeated injury. A Prince whose character is thus marked by every act which may define a Tyrant, is unfit to be the ruler of a free people."
2007 Seniors
April 14, 2007 8:50 AM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
Families are praying for this decision to be resolved.
The fact is the local newspaper did take sides and continues to unfairly characterizes anyone that disagrees with this bad decision.
The fact is anyone that disagrees with the decision does not need to be ridiculed for thinking differently.
The fact is they should not be categorized as less American.
The fact is they had nothing to do with last years crowd.
The fact is they don’t need lessons on raising children from people who have a column in the newspaper.
Or lessons regarding what a cruel “woild” we live in, or “buck up.”
The fact is the newspapers should have their top reporter in the face of district office asking hard questions, like how come everyone was not allowed to voice their opinions, discrimination, “corporate partners”, etc?
The fact is regarding your “sire-level decision”, this is America, 8 to 10,000 people are not allowed to attend the graduation, plans had been made, money had already been spent.
The fact is only 2 months notice was given.
The fact is 45 to 60,000 people or more won’t be able to come over the next 4 years.
The fact is the mayor even said our high school will very soon have over 5000 students attending before Cleveland high is open.
Is there political pressure and by whom?
The fact is for sure the mayor is helping out along with local businesses to keep the decision intact.
Why did the principal get booed last year?
Will he get booed this year, it was his idea?
The fact is this is discrimination!
The fact is this does in fact affect our Hispanic families and anyone that needs over 6 tickets!
The fact is just because a family needs 50 tickets, this is not a bad thing, but you make it sound like it is.
The fact is not everyone needs 50 tickets.
The fact is they actually told families 10 years old and younger that they can’t celebrate. Yes they recommend that young people can’t see an event with their own eyes even though it is actually positive reinforcement.
The fact is please remember our state tops the charts in suicides and dropouts.
The fact is you literally called fellow “Ranchoans, whiners, greedy and to get over it.”
The fact is funny is funny but the April Fool’s deal was “underhanded and nasty” quoting the newspaper.
Families against this decision
April 14, 2007 2:26 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
"The fact is please remember our state tops the charts in suicides and dropouts"
So, the RRPS "sire-level decision", punishes seniors for a job well done, they did not dropout the made it, that is a wonderful accomplishment!
The RRPS "sire-level decision" is also stressing the hell out of families and the graduate!
Thank you "sire"!
Dara
April 14, 2007 4:15 PM
FIND A GOOD ATTORNEY! said...
Attention all families and 2007 graduates,
FIND A GOOD ATTORNEY!
Don't let them getaway with this because this will give them leverage over us for next year
2008 families
April 14, 2007 4:48 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
THE PRICE THEY PAID!
"The Fifty Six Men who Signed
the Declaration of Independence
Have you ever wondered what happened to the fifty-six men who signed the Declaration of Independence? Five signers were captured by the British as traitors, and tortured before they died. Twelve had their homes ransacked and burned. Two lost their sons serving in the Revolutionary Army; another had two sons captured. Nine of the fixity six fought and died from wounds or hardships of the Revolutionary War. They signed and they pledged their lives, their fortunes, and their sacred honor.
What kind of men were they?
Twenty-six were lawyers and jurists. Eleven were merchants, nine were farmers and large plantation owners; men of means, well educated. But they signed the Declaration of Independence knowing full well death would be the cost if captured. Carter Braxton of Virginia, a wealthy planter and trader, saw his ships swept from the seas by the British Navy. He sold his home and properties to pay his debts, and died in rags.
Thomas McKean was so hounded by the British that he was forced to move his family almost constantly. He served in the Congress without pay, and his family was kept in hiding. His possessions were taken from him, and poverty was his reward.
Vandals or soldiers looted the properties of Dillery, Hall, Clymer, Walton, Gwinnett, Heyward, Ruttledge, and Middleton.
At the battle of Yorktown, Thomas Nelson Jr. noted that the British General Cornwallis had taken over the Nelson home for his headquarters. He quietly urged General George Washington to open fire. The home was destroyed, and Nelson died bankrupt.
Francis Lewis had his home and properties destroyed. The enemy jailed his wife, and she died within a few months.
John Hart was driven from his wife's bedside as she was dying. Their thirteen children fled for their lives. His fields and his gristmill were laid to waste. For more than a year he lived in forests and caves, returning home to find his wife dead and his children vanished. A few weeks later he died from exhaustion and a broken heart.
Norris and Livingston suffered similar fates.
Such were the stories and sacrifices of the American Revolution. These were not wild-eyed, rabble-rousing ruffians. They were soft-spoken men of means and education.
They had security, but they valued liberty more. Standing tall, straight, and unwavering, they pledged: "For the support of this declaration, with firm reliance on the protection of divine providence, we mutually pledge to each other, our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor."
They gave you and me a free and independent America. The history books never told you a lot about what happened in the Revolutionary War. We didn't fight just the British. We were British subjects at that time and we fought our own government!
Some of us take these liberties so much for granted, but we shouldn't. So, take a few minutes this year while enjoying your 4th of July holiday and silently thank these patriots. It's not much to ask for the price they paid".
2007 SENIORS
April 14, 2007 5:37 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
DO YOUR HOMEWORK RRPS!
How many times have our seniors heard this in their lifetime,
"Do your homework"?
"They should have done their homework BEFORE a decision like this was made. They need to back up and ask every graduate what they want, and if the majority want it at THE PIT, they need to fix their mistake and move it back. They still have plenty of time. It needs to be resolved the right way, right away!"
2007 SENIORS
April 14, 2007 6:42 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
Civil suit or sue, Sue Cleveland
OK
HERE WE GO AGAIN
I’VE READ DIFFERENT PEOPLE QUESTIONING FACTS AND CREDIBILITY
WATCH OUT WHAT YOU WRITE OR SAY ETC
BE NICE OR DON’T BE NICE
DON’T DO THIS
DON’T DO THAT
ITS OVER
AND
SO ON AND SO FORTH
WELL SPORTS FANS
THEY HAVE PAINTED US INTO A CORNER
THEY ARE NOT GOING TO CHANGE
THEY ARE NOT GOING TO BE FAIR
THEY ARE NOT GOING TO LET ANYONE VOTE
I TOLD EVERYONE THIS WEEKS AGO
FOLKS,
GET SERIOUS
GET YOUR ATTORNEY OR FILE A CIVIL SUIT
Stan Lee
April 14, 2007 8:58 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
& To the "ranter",
Our SENIOR has three (3) generations of over 50 relatives,
including his parents and two (2) Brothers that all GRADUATED at “The Pit”.
All of those generations no longer live in NM, but we are a very close group.
We participate in Family Reunions and the turnout is huge.
Many others have already noted not to penalize large families and this is true.
We need a lot more then 6 or 8 tickets, we are sorry.
Now we have a “corporate partnered” venue to look forward to THAT IS JUST TOO SMALL.
We are all just talking in circles now
and I have read and heard enough evidence
to confirm the school’s decision is totally wrong and unfair.
Sorry, this inappropriate decision and how it is being forced upon everyone is way,
I mean way out of line.
Quoting others here,
“we have rights”,
“this is America”,
hell someone submitted the Declaration of Independence for goodness sake!?
But, they are all corrent!
Because there was no input from everyone,
no vote
and no Democracy,
it is much more like hypocrisy and dictatorship!
There are some classic rebuttals here I have really enjoyed reading them,
they all sing the same song when all is said and done.
In support to GO BACK TO THE PIT.
You are the “hypocrite” and so are those you feel you have to protect.
Go "little Johnny", you GO!!
AC
April 15, 2007 9:01 AM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
An editor and the administration all referred to the “many” that wanted this, what is the problem with putting this to a vote, right now?
You will all find out the actual “many” want this event at “The Pit”.
The actual “many” was actually only a handful of people at the “sire-level” and 13 persons from the RRPS council.
Then Cibola high school was blamed for last year.
Let us VOTE:
Our Seniors will have to revert back to their grade school days, you print up what 770 notes home with 2 boxes to check on the note - “The Pit” or no “Pit”, parents and guardians along with each Senior will vote.
Unlike the decree that has been imposed upon everyone, where only a certain “many” voices were heard and acted on, simply, that decision that act in itself is so very wrong and so very unfair, this is America right?
Call it what it is…..discrimination!
(The school Board is supposed to uphold the Constitution of the United States, just ask them).
Make sure you number each one of these notes that way they can be counted fairly.
Add a few lines so the Graduate and their Parent/Guardian can print and sign.
If you have a better idea, wonderful as long as the vote process is fair.
If the vote comes back no “Pit”, then the editor, the administration and the so called “many” had a finger on the pulse
and IF the vote comes back “The Pit” then Hallelujah! Times a wastin’!
with a little help from my friends & Dorothy
April 15, 2007 11:28 AM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
"OF THE PEOPLE, BY THE PEOPLE, FOR THE PEOPLE"
“THAT WE HERE HIGHLY RESOLVE THAT THESE DEAD SHALL NOT HAVE DIED IN VAIN--THAT THIS NATION, UNDER GOD, SHALL HAVE A NEW BIRTH OF FREEDOM--AND THAT GOVERNMENT OF THE PEOPLE, BY THE PEOPLE, FOR THE PEOPLE, SHALL NOT PERISH FROM THE EARTH."
2007 SENIORS AND FAMILIES
April 15, 2007 11:48 AM
Call Yvette 994-9648 said...
We have the Hard Copy paper PETITION
please call me and I will meet you to get it signed.
Please pass my number to other families thank you.
Call Yvette 994-9648
April 15, 2007 12:29 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
As learned in my English Class:
Half a league, half a league,
Half a league onward,
All to district office
Rode the six hundred.
'Forward, the Light Brigade!
Rode the six hundred.
Their's not to make reply,
Their's not to reason why,
Their's but to do and why:
Into district office
Rode the six hundred.
The Observer to right of them,
The Ryan’s to left of them,
VonAncken in front of them
Into the jaws
Into the mouth of RRPS
Rode the six hundred.
Honour the charge they made!
Honour the Light Brigade,
Noble six hundred!
(ALT)
2007 SENIORS
April 15, 2007 1:32 PM
Anonymous AGAIN said...
IF YOU FEEL YOU HAVE BEEN TREATED UNFAIR ABOUT THE SO CALLED DECISION MOVING THE GRADUATION TO THE SANTA ANA CENTER AND THEY WILL NOT LET YOU ALL VOTE THEN I AGAIN ENCOURAGE YOU TO FILE A CIVIL SUIT BEFORE IT IS TO LATE
April 15, 2007 1:45 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
RE: The Observer, Mike & Genie Ryan and anonymous ranters condemning anyone speaking out against this decision, this applies:
”Hate speech is a controversial term for speech intended to degrade, intimidate, or incite violence or prejudicial action against a person or group of people based on their race, gender, age, ethnicity, nationality, religion, sexual orientation, gender identity, disability, language ability, moral or political views, socioeconomic class, occupation or appearance (such as height, weight, and hair color). The term covers written as well as oral communication and some forms of behaviors in a public setting. It is also sometimes called antilocution and is the first point on Allport's scale which measures prejudice in a society.”
2007 SENIORS
April 15, 2007 4:20 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
While reading many of these comments, we agree 100% with the parent of 2006 SENIOR
"YES the district should have come up with a variety of options and make them available to the public, obtain feedback and base the decision on that feedback in combination with sound financial decisions (as well as access, parking, etc.).
YES the timing should have been better.
YES the district has not given the public a voice.
YES it should probably be moved back to the PIT for this year's graduation."
2007 SENIORS
April 15, 2007 4:49 PM
Anonymous said...
What I would like to know is what is the school board getting out of this. Are they realy paying for the Santa Ana Star Center or is the Santa Ana Star Center paying the school board? Is the school board getting a kick back on money that is greater than being able to go back to the pit.
April 15, 2007 6:22 PM
Anonymous said...
The school board, the mayor, Cleveland, Rio Rancho businesses, “corporate partners”, ALL benefit from the graduation being in RR.
I am very sick and tired, and literally sick over the newspaper’s attitude towards everyone that is questioning this discriminatory decision.
We have every right to question this decision; its affecting over 15,000 people and around 10,000 won’t be allowed to attend the graduation.
TV feeds, please….that’s crappy!
Dr. Cleveland hid out all through March until April Good Friday, and during that time the board pointed the finger at the administration.
The board president is still consistently rude, and the rest buried their heads in the sand.
RRPS did not let everyone provide input, no vote was allowed, 06 was rowdy and 07 gets the punishment, and every class from here on out gets punished too.
Plans were already made but Dr. Cleveland does not care!
Her apology should include allowing us graduating at The Pit.
If VonAncken, VonDuncan, VonHerron, whatever the right name is, I don’t know, were booed by the seniors last year, they need to investigate why that happened?
Where there’s smoke there’s fire, the problem is now all RRPS stinks because of a few people.
O. G.
April 15, 2007 6:36 PM
WHO Do VOODOO said...
RRPS and the mayor have a case of WHO DO VOODOO!
April 15, 2007 6:39 PM
Who do? Who do? said...
RRPS,
Who do?
Who do?
Who do you think your foolin'?
2007 PARENTS
April 15, 2007 6:41 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
Driving to the Star Center. After driving through Rio Rancho you will come to a 2 lane road Paseo del Volcan, you can ONLY access the Center from this 2 lane road, upon reaching the Center there is ONLY 1 way in and 1 way out when you leave.
If you have been following any of the other comments in the Observer, people have complained about the drive and the ability to enter and exit. Some stated, the just kept on going because traffic was backed up in both directions.
The Observer also said there was 4 ways in like The Pit has 4 ways in. They dogged us for not having our facts correct.
FYI, traffic WILL BE A PROBLEM
2007 SENIORS
April 15, 2007 9:09 PM
African Proverb: said...
"It takes a village to raise a child."
"But only LIMITED amount of that village is allowed to attend the child's graduation" S. Andrade
2007 SENIORS
April 15, 2007 9:50 PM
matches malone said...
i
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i'll see ya' all at 1
April 15, 2007 9:52 PM
FIND A GOOD ATTORNEY! said...
07
Attention all families and 2007 graduates,
FIND A GOOD ATTORNEY!
Don't let them getaway with this because this will give them leverage over us for next year
2008 Families
April 15, 2007 9:53 PM
FIND A GOOD ATTORNEY! said...
07
Attention all families and 2007 graduates,
FIND A GOOD ATTORNEY!
Don't let them getaway with this because this will give them leverage over us for next year
2008 Families
April 15, 2007 9:53 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary -- said...
07
When we chronicle RRPS, the 2007 GRADUATION will be remembered that Mr. Duncan, Mr. VonAncken, Lisa Cour, Dr. Sue Cleveland, Mayor Jackson and the Observer played the starring roles.
The great thing is there is a growing “paper trail” to confirm the horrible down and dirty comments all in the newspaper.
WE were ridiculed for not having our facts right and for voicing legitimate concerns. Yet, every time you read or hear the news, their story changes or their facts are wrong.
What happened to our
FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHTS,
CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS,
DEMOCRACY
and ALL
that AMERICA stands for?
Aren’t these the very things our SOLDIERS are at WAR for right this second?
How can you all just DISMISS these critical points?
2007 SENIORS
April 15, 2007 11:06 PM
Call Yvette 994-9648 said...
We have the Hard Copy paper PETITION
Please call me and I will meet you to get it signed.
Please pass my number to other families thank you.
Call Yvette 994-9648
April 16, 2007 9:53 AM
City of Vision said...
U R
Blinded by the lies!!
2007 SENIORS
April 16, 2007 2:04 PM
Prayin' said...
Hope Dr. Cleveland comes to her senses?
Bev
April 16, 2007 4:06 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
"if they were the least bit interested, they would have asked for input BEFORE they made the decision"
They were never interested at all. For sure THEY WERE ALL WRONG, THEIR DECISION WAS WRONG, otherwise Dr. Cleveland would have never apologized.
Laura
April 16, 2007 4:49 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
"I understand the chaos of organizing a high school graduation and inevitably someone is going to be less than happy about the result.
But to callously disregard the plans and wishes of multiple family members goes beyond any kind of administrative SNAFU.
Gradution ceremonies are ultimately about the achievements of the students and an opportunity for loved ones to celebrate those achievements.
For Rio Rancho to dismiss the concerns and outrage of family members is to disregard the spirit of the ceremony.
Isn't it obvious?
Do the right thing."
2007 SENIORS
April 16, 2007 6:23 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
.
The president of the school board is a real witch!
She has NO respect for parents or the students.
We must make it a point to let everyone know what a joke this is.
It is a “gool ol'” boy network at RRPS.
They are all stuck on themselves.
“What goes around comes around”
2007 SENIORS
April 16, 2007 6:42 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
I wanted to take this time to write everyone that was involved in this matter. I won’t be able to explain myself very well. I will just put down what is on my mind. Our family’s problem will be deciding who gets to go and who doesn’t. Ok, we all know this comes with the territory because of what has happened but the reality is, this is tough. Our son won’t be able to go if his grandfather goes. My dad won’t be able to go if his grandson goes. If you think this is an easy decision to make, it really is not. We are torn up over this choice. This really hurts…
April 16, 2007 7:40 PM
ANONYMOUS said...
I WANT ALL OF MY FAMILY AT MY GRADUATION!
MOM,
DAD,
SISTERS,
BROTHERS,
AUNTS,
UNCLES,
GRANDPARENTS
AND COUSINS.
DON'T MAKE ME CHOOSE WHO GETS TO GO AND WHO GETS TO STAY HOME.
WE ALL WANT TO CELEBRATE TOGETHER.
BACK TO THE PIT!
GRADUATES AND FAMILIES SHOULD HAVE HAD A CHOICE.
IT'S OUR GRADUATION.
NOT THE ADMINISTRATIONS!
April 16, 2007 7:58 PM
FIND A GOOD ATTORNEY! said...
07
Attention all families and 2007 graduates,
FIND A GOOD ATTORNEY!
Don't let them getaway with this because this will give them leverage over us for next year
2008 Families
April 17, 2007 8:43 AM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
Last year’s Graduation had a rowdy crowd from CIBOLA HIGH SCHOOL according to Sue Cleveland!
Parents were upset!
Please do not penalize the class of 2007 they cannot be blamed for last year.
2007 Seniors
April 17, 2007 9:41 AM
KNOCK! KNOCK! said...
Knock! Knock!
who's there?
PIT!
PIT who!
PITiful decision by the school to change the graduation!
2007 Seniors
April 17, 2007 11:02 AM
ORANGE said...
KNOCK! KNOCK!
Who's there?
ORANGE!
ORANGE who?
AREN’T YOU ALL GOING TO GO BACK TO THE PIT?
2007 Seniors
April 17, 2007 11:04 AM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
We fully support returning our graduation Back To The Pit.
2007 Seniors
April 17, 2007 12:27 PM
Anonymous said...
RRPS blatantly disregarded the rights, the plans and specifically persons with large families. Keep this going. What about Bill Richardson?
April 17, 2007 2:25 PM
bologna said...
BOLOGNA!!!
They can break the contract!
April 17, 2007 2:47 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
“Everyone has already heard the arguments for and against returning the graduation ceremony to The Pit so there’s no reason to spend a lot of time rehashing what’s already been said. The only issue left to be decided is what most of the parents want to do. We believe that most of the parents want the ceremony to be held in The Pit. So our only request is that you authorize a vote so that we can see what the parents want. If most of them want to hold the ceremony at the Star Center, then we should hold it at the Star Center; if most of the parents want to return to the Pit, then that’s what we should do. If you feel you can’t authorize a vote, then the only fair decision is to return the ceremony to The Pit given that the decision was made without sufficient public input.
Further, the decision to move the ceremony to the Star Center disproportionately inconveniences larger families, many of whom happen to be Hispanic.”
April 17, 2007 2:58 PM
Have a Heart said...
Dr. Cleveland,
Have a Heart
2007 Seniors
April 17, 2007 4:29 PM
HELP!!!! said...
HELP US Dr. Cleveland!
April 17, 2007 4:49 PM
Anonymous said...
Mr. Vonancken, Mrs. Cleveland, Mr. Jackson and the so-called think tank, the brain trust behind this debacle got it wrong.
April 17, 2007 5:18 PM
Jesus Take The Wheel said...
LORD HELP US!
April 17, 2007 6:37 PM
Scarecrow said...
“if I only had a brain”!
“Think Tank”
“Brain Trust”
I wish they had one
Decision is BAD from start to finish
April 17, 2007 8:13 PM
Anonymous said...
PLEASE REMEMBER, THE PRESIDENT OF THE SCHOOL BOARD WAS APPROACHED BY A CONCERNED PARENT ASKING WHY THIS DECISION WAS MADE WITHOUT FAIR INVOLVEMENT FROM THE STUDENTS, AND PARENTS ALIKE.
“HER ANSWER WAS LESS THAN CORDIAL AND SHE STATED THAT SHE MADE THE DECISION WITHOUT CONSULTING ANYONE BECAUSE SHE HAD THE AUTHORITY TO DO SO!”
NOT ONLY DO I FIND THIS HORRIBLY OFFENSIVE, BUT ALSO IT IS NOT EXACTLY CORRECT.
THE PRESIDENT AND SCHOOL BOARD MUST UPHOLD CONSTITUTIONAL GUIDELINES OF THE SCHOOL AND THE UNITED STATES!
ALONG WITH THE AUTHORITY THAT WE AS VOTERS ENTRUSTED THEM WITH.
THIS DECISION DID NOT REPRESENT WHAT EVERYONE WANTED.
THAT CLEARLY HAS BEEN PROVEN.
I THINK WE NEED TO SERIOUSLY RECONSIDER JUST HOW MUCH AUTHORITY WE SHOULD ALLOW THEM TO HAVE.
I ASSURE YOU THIS ISSUE WILL HAUNT ALL OF THEM FOR THE REST OF THEIR SHORT-LIVED POLITICAL CAREERS.
RIO RANCHO PARENTS AND CITIZENS WILL NOT ALLOW THIS OBVIOUS ABUSE OF TRUST AND POWER TO GO ON UNQUESTIONED OR UNCHALLENGED.
OUR CHILDREN ARE VERY DEAR TO US!
WE THOUGHT YOU UNDERSTOOD THAT?
April 17, 2007 8:40 PM
FIND A GOOD ATTORNEY! said...
07
Attention all families and 2007 graduates,
FIND A GOOD ATTORNEY!
Don't let them getaway with this because this will give them leverage over us for next year
2008 Families
April 18, 2007 6:33 AM
RE: FIND A GOOD ATTORNEY! said...
2008 is right, time is running out:
07
Attention all families and 2007 graduates,
FIND A GOOD ATTORNEY!
Don't let them getaway with this because this will give them leverage over us for next year
2008 Families
April 18, 2007 8:32 AM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
THIS IS TO: Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary,
Sue apologized but it still fits her, where is her integrity?
Lisa, wanted all graduates and family to know "life is tough" but it's not our fault, we make all the "sire-level" decisions like it or not!
Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary, this is you!
A man in a hot air balloon realized he was lost. He reduced altitude and spotted a woman below. He descended a bit more and shouted,” Excuse me, can you help? I promised a friend I would meet him an hour
ago, but I don't know where I am."
The woman below replied, "You are in a hot air balloon hovering approximately 30 feet above the ground. You are between 40 and 41 degrees north latitude and between 59 and 60 degrees west longitude."
"You must be an engineer," said the balloonist.
"I am," replied the woman. "How did you know?"
"Well," answered the balloonist, "everything you told me is technically correct, but I have no idea what to make of you, and the fact is I am still lost. Frankly, you've not been much help so far."
The woman below responded, "You must be in management."
"I am," replied the balloonist, "but how did you know?"
"Well," said the woman, "you don't know where you are or where you are going. You have risen to where you are, due to a large quantity of hot air. You made a promise which you have no idea how to keep, and you expect people beneath you to solve your problems. The fact is you are in exactly the same position you were in before we met, but now, somehow, it's my fault!"
April 18, 2007 8:50 AM
Call Yvette 994-9648 said...
We have the Hard Copy paper PETITION
Please call me and I will meet you to get it signed.
Please pass my number to other families thank you.
Call Yvette 994-9648
April 18, 2007 10:02 AM
Que Sera, "sire" said...
RRPS theme:
Que Sera, Sera....
Whatever will be, will be...
The future's not yours, you see...
Que "sire-level" decision...
Que Sera, Sera...
What will be, will be.
April 18, 2007 1:04 PM
The Pit said...
WE ARE STILL OPEN AND WILL TAKE YOU BACK RRPS
April 18, 2007 2:59 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
The seniors of the class of 2007 would like to acknowledge RRPS for:
Failing to listening to reason, for stressing us, for lying to us, for disregarding our celebration, for punishing us for something we did not do, for providing us with tacky announcements, for burdening our families with expenditures for travel, with discriminating against anyone with a large family, or large network, for telling us “the choice is yours”, but it never was, for a disrespectful board president, for a superintendent that claimed she knew all the reasons, but later after making things worse admitted to failing to know all the reasons, for a dishonest principal, for no help from the mayor, for making us have to choose who goes and who stays, for being dictators, for threatening families and students that spoke up, for telling us to get over it, for telling us life is hard get over it, for telling us we are greedy, for a BIG MESS!
April 18, 2007 4:24 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
Mr. VonAncken was booed last year?
Why did that happen?
April 18, 2007 7:40 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
WE ARE A PUBLIC HIGH SCHOOL, BUT YOU MADE THE GRADUATION PRIVATE.
April 18, 2007 7:42 PM
FIND A GOOD ATTORNEY! said...
07
Attention all families and 2007 graduates,
FIND A GOOD ATTORNEY!
Don't let them getaway with this because this will give them leverage over us for next year
2008 Families
April 19, 2007 6:39 AM
Anonymous said...
RRPS HAS NOT BEEN TRUTHFUL WITH RRHS STUDENTS AND THEIR FAMILIES!
THIS IS A PUBLIC HIGH SCHOOL!
BUT YOU INSIST ON HAVING A PRIVATE GRADUATION!
IT'S SO PRIVATE THAT EVEN THE FAMILIES OF THE GRADUATES ARE NOT WELCOME!
2007 SENIORS
April 19, 2007 8:35 AM
TO: History Lesson said...
HELLO HS,
I checked back again to see if you ever responded.
What else could you let us know about this?
April 19, 2007 9:17 AM
PIT is still available on 5/19 said...
ATTENTION BACK TO THE PIT,
This decision is the pitts!
I spoke to THE PIT, yes!
They still have May 19TH open!
They will not schedule anything on that day.
Cost for THE PIT = $7,800.00
Cost for the Center = $6,200.00
A seat at the Center costs more then a seat at THE PIT.
PASS IT ON!
monie
April 19, 2007 9:29 AM
2008, 2009, 2010 said...
THANK YOU BACK TO THE PIT!
April 19, 2007 1:21 PM
WEEKS AGO said...
WELL SPORTS FANS
THEY HAVE PAINTED US INTO A CORNER
THEY ARE NOT GOING TO CHANGE
THEY ARE NOT GOING TO BE FAIR
THEY ARE NOT GOING TO LET ANYONE VOTE
I TOLD EVERYONE THIS WEEKS AGO
April 19, 2007 2:16 PM
GET SERIOUS said...
FOLKS,
GET SERIOUS
GET YOUR ATTORNEY OR FILE A CIVIL SUIT
April 19, 2007 2:29 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
TO: Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary
WE DO SUPPORT THE INITIAL IDEA TO HAVE A GRADUATION HERE IN RIO RANCHO.
WE DO NOT SUPPORT CHANGING THIS YEAR’S GRADUATION WITHOUT ALLOWING EVERYONE TO HAVE INPUT IN THIS DECISION.
WE DO NOT SUPPORT HARMING THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE.
WE DO NOT SUPPORT VERBALLY DEGRADING THEM IN THE NEWSPAPER.
WE DO NOT SUPPORT DISCRIMINATING AGAINST THOUSANDS OF PERSONS WANTING TO SEE A GRADUATION.
WE DO NOT SUPPORT PUNISHING THE CLASS OF 2007 FOR SOMETHING THEY DID NOT DO.
2007 SENIORS
April 19, 2007 2:59 PM
Boycott! said...
Boycott!
April 19, 2007 5:42 PM
Anonymous said...
The decision was never fair. Contracts can be broken. Tremendous stress is being placed on families. The new Center is NOT cost effective. The newspaper comments are one-sided.
Graduates Against the Decision
April 19, 2007 7:05 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
Everything that we would have like to have said is right here. We would like thank everyone that spoke up. Too bad RRPS is not listening to a word we’re saying.
2007 SENIORS
April 19, 2007 7:57 PM
2007 SENIORS said...
TO: RRPS and Mayor Jackson and the Observer,
The seniors and families of THE CLASS of 2007 want you to always remember that you discriminated and punished us unfairly.
2007 SENIORS
April 19, 2007 9:20 PM
Call Yvette 994-9648 said...
We have the Hard Copy paper PETITION
Please call me and I will meet you to get it signed.
Please pass my number to other families thank you.
Call Yvette 994-9648
April 20, 2007 6:46 AM
FIND A GOOD ATTORNEY! said...
07
Attention all families and 2007 graduates,
FIND A GOOD ATTORNEY!
Don't let them getaway with this because this will give them leverage over us for next year
2008 Families
April 20, 2007 9:16 AM
Attn: Dr. Sue Cleveland/RRPS/Mr. Jackson said...
Dr. Cleveland and RRPS,
I believe we have our accurate facts listed here numerous times. So, like an echo, Dr. Cleveland, “it is NOT why you imposed your decision, IT IS HOW you imposed your decision.” I understand you actually took the time to meet with some parents. We all are coming from different points of view but agree on the main issues. I have read the different emails being passed along and I for one need you to understand I fortunately have secured some extra tickets. BUT THERE ARE FOUR FAMILY MEMBERS IN FROM OUT OF TOWN THAT WON’T BE ABLE TO ATTEND AND IT WAS NOT EASY HUSLTING DOWN THE EXTRA ONES EITHER, IT WAS A PAIN. My family won’t have enough there are many more families that also won’t. I want you to know it was VERY difficult figuring who got to go and who didn’t. That is where I agree with the comments calling this matter discrimination. The only reason I was able to secure those tickets is because of all the parents that I know, I really feel for the families that need extra tickets and don’t know as many people that I do. This makes their task all the more difficult. I heard you apologized; I have a much better suggestion, let US VOTE.
EACH SCHOOL BOARD MEMBER IS SWORN IN BY A JUDGE AND THEIR OATH OF SERVICE MAINTAINS THEY MUST UPHOLD THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES AS WELL AS THE SCHOOL'S, ISN'T THIS A DIRECT VIOLATION OF "DUE PROCESS", FAIR PROCESS, OR ANY EQUAL AND "GOOD FAITH" STANDARDS THAT ADHERE TO OUR CONSTITUTION AND WHAT THEY WERE FOUNDED ON? I HAVE PERSONALLY HEARD THAT DR. CLEVELAND IS "FAIR" AND WE ARE ABSOLUTELY COUNTING ON THAT IN THIS MATTER.
Shirley
April 20, 2007 11:43 AM
Seniors said...
2007 Seniors agree with Scott:
"BULL SQUAT,
Sorry for my Texas accent but what else could I write to let you know how messed up this is?
Dr. Cleveland the mayor and Lisa “I’m better then you” Cour are ALL full of it!
I sure as hell don’t subscribe to "sire-level decision" thinking!
I was taught “of the people, by the people, for the people", you all must have ditched that day?
Hell, "sire-level decision", that’s something right out of a dictator’s handbook!
GET REAL!"
Scott
April 20, 2007 1:12 PM
for the pit said...
Allow a vote or return our graduation, my announcements still have The Pit on them
April 20, 2007 2:54 PM
Wherefore and Why said...
“Then all at once it came to me, I saw the wherefore, and the reason why”
April 20, 2007 6:39 PM
Anonymous said...
RRPS, the newspaper, along with the mayor of our dear community have caused irreparable damage to thousands of people.
Families have already scheduled flights, planned and had taken time off.
No apology can comfort or justify their decision.
This celebration is for the seniors plain and simple.
This celebration is not a “sire-level” power play, it is families and loved ones being able to be there for their children.
Shame on all of you!
Wayne
April 20, 2007 6:46 PM
"Carpe Diem" said...
SEIZE THE TIME
April 20, 2007 6:55 PM
Posterity: said...
"You will never know how much it has cost my generation to preserve your freedom. I hope you will make good use of it."
Wrong decision Sue
April 20, 2007 7:04 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
"History is the sum total of things that could have been avoided."
April 20, 2007 7:45 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
Truly amazing how backward our fearless leaders are? What about the children, Rio Rancho? What about our children? Don’t forget what you did, we won’t.
April 20, 2007 7:46 PM
Neil said...
"This is one small step for a man, one giant leap for mankind."
Move forward RRPS not backward!
April 20, 2007 7:49 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
"Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it."
April 20, 2007 7:56 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
"A word to the wise ain't necessary - it's the stupid ones that need the advice."
You all were given terrible advice
April 20, 2007 8:06 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not 100% sure about the universe."
April 20, 2007 8:09 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
"The darkest places in hell are reserved for those who maintain their neutrality in times of moral crisis."
April 20, 2007 8:15 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
"Power tends to corrupt and absolute power corrupts absolutely."
April 20, 2007 8:16 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
"Always vote for principle, though you may vote alone, and you may cherish the sweetest reflection that your vote is never lost."
April 20, 2007 8:17 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
"Democracy is when the indigent, and not the men of property, are the rulers."
April 20, 2007 8:19 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
"Politics, it seems to me, for years, or all too long, has been concerned with right or left instead of right or wrong."
April 20, 2007 8:20 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
"Never let your sense of morals prevent you from doing what's right."
April 20, 2007 8:21 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
"Reporters thrive on the world's misfortune. For this reason they often take an indecent pleasure in events that dismay the rest of humanity."
April 20, 2007 8:26 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
"An educated person is one who has learned that information almost always turns out to be at best incomplete and very often false, misleading, fictitious, mendacious - just dead wrong."
April 20, 2007 8:27 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
"Usually, terrible things that are done with the excuse that progress requires them are not really progress at all, but just terrible things."
April 20, 2007 8:29 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
"So long as we have enough people in this country willing to fight for their rights, we'll be called a democracy."
April 20, 2007 8:31 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
"Politics:
A strife of interests masquerading as a contest of principles. The conduct of public affairs for private advantage."
April 20, 2007 8:35 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
"As you make your bed, so you must lie in it."
April 20, 2007 8:37 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
"Freedom means the opportunity to be what we never thought we would be."
April 20, 2007 8:38 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
"The most important political office is that of the private citizen."
April 20, 2007 8:40 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
"In a democracy, dissent is an act of faith."
April 20, 2007 8:44 PM
Call Yvette 994-9648 said...
We have the Hard Copy paper PETITION
Please call me and I will meet you to get it signed.
Please pass my number to other families thank you.
Call Yvette 994-9648
April 21, 2007 8:45 AM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
"arrogant oligarchy"
Oligarchy
1. a form of government in which all power is vested in a few persons or in a dominant class or clique; government by the few.
2. a state or organization so ruled.
3. the persons or class so ruling.
Sounds like "sire-level" mentality
April 21, 2007 2:13 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
"Those who stand for nothing fall for anything."
April 21, 2007 2:17 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
"I think there is one higher office than president and I would call that patriot."
April 21, 2007 2:19 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
"What luck for rulers, that men do not think."
April 21, 2007 2:20 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
"Force and fraud are in war the two cardinal virtues."
April 21, 2007 2:21 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
"We would all like to vote for the best man but he is never a candidate."
April 21, 2007 2:23 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
"Radical changes in world politics leave America with a heightened responsibility to be, for the world, an example of a genuinely free, democratic, just and humane society."
April 21, 2007 2:25 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
"My constituency is the desperate, the damned, the disinherited, the disrespected and the despised."
April 21, 2007 2:26 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
"Whenever a man has cast a longing eye on offices, a rottenness begins in his conduct."
April 21, 2007 2:27 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
"Whenever men take the law into their own hands, the loser is the law. And when the law loses, freedom languishes."
April 21, 2007 2:30 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
"Freedom of the press is guaranteed only to those who own one."
April 21, 2007 2:33 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
"Many politicians are in the habit of laying it down as a self-evident proposition that no people ought to be free till they are fit to use their freedom. The maxim is worthy of the fool in the old story who resolved not to go into the water till he had learned to swim."
April 21, 2007 2:35 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
"You have not converted a man because you have silenced him."
April 21, 2007 2:39 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
"I don't make jokes. I just watch the government and report the facts."
April 21, 2007 2:51 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
"Politics is the art of preventing people from taking part in affairs which properly concern them."
April 21, 2007 3:03 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
"A free America... means just this: individual freedom for all, rich or poor, or else this system of government we call democracy is only an expedient to enslave man to the machine and make him like it."
April 21, 2007 3:07 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
"To me, it seems a dreadful indignity to have a soul controlled by geography."
April 21, 2007 3:10 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
"From the equality of rights springs identity of our highest interests; you cannot subvert your neighbor's rights without striking a dangerous blow at your own."
April 21, 2007 3:12 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
"Fourscore and seven years ago our fathers brought forth on this continent, a new nation, conceived in Liberty, and dedicated to the proposition that all men are created equal."
April 21, 2007 3:14 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
"All the people like us are we, and everyone else is They."
April 21, 2007 3:17 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
"I have a dream that one day on the red hills of Georgia, the sons of former slaves and the sons of former slave owners will be able to sit together at the table of brotherhood."
April 21, 2007 3:19 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
"I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character."
April 21, 2007 3:20 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
"I believe in equality for everyone, except reporters."
April 21, 2007 3:24 PM
Call Yvette 994-9648 said...
2007, 2008, 2009, 2010:
We have the Hard Copy paper PETITION
Please call me and I will meet you to get it signed.
Please pass my number to other families thank you.
Call Yvette 994-9648
April 22, 2007 9:26 AM
My Graduation 2007 said...
My Graduation 2007
Class Ring - $400 (In Albuquerque)
Announcements/Cap & Gown - $200 (In Albuquerque)
Invitations - $150 (In Albuquerque)
Graduation pictures - $400 (In Albuquerque)
8 family members flying in - $3,600
Graduation party - $2,000
Having my entire family who encouraged me for the last 13 years celebrate with me at
THE PIT.....
PRICELESS!!!
April 22, 2007 12:25 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
THIS IS A HUGE ERROR WHICH WILL AFFECT ALL STUDENTS OUR FAMILIES OUR FRIENDS
2007 SENIORS
ps
THANK YOU FOR THIS BLOG SPOT!
April 22, 2007 9:44 PM
TO ALL SENIORS! said...
Have Faith in God, Believe in Yourself and Never Give Up on Your Dreams
"Be strong in the Lord and in his mighty power".
Ephesians 6:10 (NLT)
April 23, 2007 8:10 AM
Back to The Pit said...
The very recent decision to change graduation locations is having a very negative affect on our family. We have several family members that already scheduled time off and purchased airline tickets. This decision was not thought out very well, hence the mayor becoming involved along with tv monitors in place of being there in person, and the superintendent of schools apologizing for NOT taking everything into consideration.
Please return this matter to The Pit.
Sam
April 23, 2007 1:53 PM
SERIOUSLY… said...
SERIOUSLY…
SIMPLY, WHAT PRICE DO YOU PLACE ON A CELEBRATION OF LOVE AND LIFE?!
THE COST THE SAVINGS THAT MRS. CLEVELAND AND MR. VONANCKEN ALLUDE TO ABSOLUTELY DO NOT OUT WEIGH WHAT WILL BE COMPLETELY LOST!
YES, EVEN TO ATTEMPT TO PLACE A PRICE ON THIS ENTIRE PROCESS, CELEBRATION AND EVENT IS INAPPROPRIATE BECAUSE IT IS TRULY “PRICELESS”!
TO ARGUE THIS IMPORTANT POINT IS IGNORANCE AND….WELL….VERY WRONG.
April 23, 2007 7:25 PM
Anonymous said...
"You who are on the road
Must have a code that you can live by
And so become yourself
Because the past is just a good bye.
Teach your children well,
Their father's hell did slowly go by,
And feed them on your dreams
The one they picked, the one you'll know by.
Don't you ever ask them why, if they told you, you would cry,
So just look at them and sigh and know they love you.
And you, of tender years,
Can't know the fears that your elders grew by,
And so please help them with your youth,
They seek the truth before they can die.
Teach your parents well,
Their children's hell will slowly go by,
And feed them on your dreams
The one they picked, the one you'll know by.
Don't you ever ask them why, if they told you, you would cry,
So just look at them and sigh and know they love you."
April 23, 2007 8:10 PM
FIND A GOOD ATTORNEY! said...
07
Attention all families and 2007 graduates,
FIND A GOOD ATTORNEY!
Don't let them getaway with this because this will give them leverage over us for next year
2008 Families
April 23, 2007 9:19 PM
Families said...
It is really not about the change it is about our children. It is about failing to invoke democracy and allowing seniors and families to have a say in the matter.
April 24, 2007 1:18 PM
BIG TIME! said...
RRPS,
Man o man you really messed up BIG TIME!
April 24, 2007 6:52 PM
something or other said...
"my wonderment starts when you open your eyes
you take your very first breath, I see your abdomine rise
since we were itty-itty-bitty, we've been running together
from something or other, our hearts always beat louder"
April 24, 2007 8:43 PM
Call Yvette 994-9648 said...
2007, 2008, 2009, 2010:
We have the Hard Copy paper PETITION
Please call me and I will meet you to get it signed.
Please pass my number to other families thank you.
Call Yvette 994-9648
April 24, 2007 8:44 PM
$7,500 said...
The Star Center is going to cost us taxpayers, RRPS more then The Pit!
They said it would cost less?
They lied
Arnold
April 25, 2007 10:11 AM
To Dr. Cleveland said...
“Racism is still real – It is a power that gives specific people, groups or camps different access to opportunities and resources. Your decision has created advantages that disproportionately channels power and resources away from the seniors and families of this year’s graduating class.”
April 25, 2007 12:31 PM
40,000 PEOPLE said...
"REMEMBER THIS DECISION WILL AFFECT ALL GRADUATING SENIORS, THEIR FAMILIES AND LOVED ONES OVER THE NEXT 4 YEARS OR UNTIL THE NEW SCHOOL IS OPEN!"
YES, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010 WILL ALL BE AFFECTED!
THAT IS EASILY OVER 40,000 PEOPLE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ATTEND BUT WON'T BE ALLOWED!
BECAUSE EVERY YEAR WILL BE BIGGER THEN THE PREVIOUS YEAR!
Make sure you PASS this on!
Call Yvette 994-9648
April 25, 2007 2:26 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
“Everyone has already heard the arguments for and against returning the graduation ceremony to The Pit so there’s no reason to spend a lot of time rehashing what’s already been said. The only issue left to be decided is what most of the parents want to do. We believe that most of the parents want the ceremony to be held in The Pit. So our only request is that you authorize a vote so that we can see what the parents want. If most of them want to hold the ceremony at the Star Center, then we should hold it at the Star Center; if most of the parents want to return to the Pit, then that’s what we should do. If you feel you can’t authorize a vote, then the only fair decision is to return the ceremony to The Pit given that the decision was made without sufficient public input.
Further, the decision to move the ceremony to the Star Center disproportionately inconveniences larger families, many of whom happen to be Hispanic.”
April 25, 2007 4:18 PM
YIPPIEEE!! said...
THEY LIED!
THEY BARELY JUST SIGNED THE CONTRACT!
THEY CAN BREAK THE SO CALLED CONTRACT!
DON’T BELIEVE IT WHEN THEY TELL YOU THEY CAN’T!
BECAUSE THEY ACTUALLY CAN!
AND,
THE PIT IS STILL OPEN FOR BUSINESS ON MAY 19TH!
YIPPIEEE!!
April 25, 2007 4:35 PM
take it back said...
Take it back Sue,
Adam
April 25, 2007 8:11 PM
Anonymous said...
WE WOULD LIKE TO BE ALLOWED TO VOTE.
RRPS IS DENYING US THIS OPPORTUNITY.
OUR COUNTRY IS FOUNDED ON DEMOCRACY AND THIS IS IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION.
LET US VOTE.
“OF THE PEOPLE, BY THE PEOPLE, FOR THE PEOPLE"
April 26, 2007 10:59 AM
Roy said...
WE WOULD LIKE TO BE ALLOWED TO VOTE.
RRPS IS DENYING US THIS OPPORTUNITY.
OUR COUNTRY IS FOUNDED ON DEMOCRACY AND THIS IS IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION.
LET US VOTE.
“OF THE PEOPLE, BY THE PEOPLE, FOR THE PEOPLE"
April 26, 2007 11:02 AM
Sharon said...
WE WOULD LIKE TO BE ALLOWED TO VOTE.
RRPS IS DENYING US THIS OPPORTUNITY.
OUR COUNTRY IS FOUNDED ON DEMOCRACY AND THIS IS IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION.
LET US VOTE.
“OF THE PEOPLE, BY THE PEOPLE, FOR THE PEOPLE"
April 26, 2007 11:03 AM
Tony said...
WE WOULD LIKE TO BE ALLOWED TO VOTE.
RRPS IS DENYING US THIS OPPORTUNITY.
OUR COUNTRY IS FOUNDED ON DEMOCRACY AND THIS IS IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION.
LET US VOTE.
“OF THE PEOPLE, BY THE PEOPLE, FOR THE PEOPLE"
April 26, 2007 11:03 AM
Rick said...
WE WOULD LIKE TO BE ALLOWED TO VOTE.
RRPS IS DENYING US THIS OPPORTUNITY.
OUR COUNTRY IS FOUNDED ON DEMOCRACY AND THIS IS IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION.
LET US VOTE.
“OF THE PEOPLE, BY THE PEOPLE, FOR THE PEOPLE"
April 26, 2007 11:56 AM
Eddie said...
WE WOULD LIKE TO BE ALLOWED TO VOTE.
RRPS IS DENYING US THIS OPPORTUNITY.
OUR COUNTRY IS FOUNDED ON DEMOCRACY AND THIS IS IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION.
LET US VOTE.
“OF THE PEOPLE, BY THE PEOPLE, FOR THE PEOPLE"
April 26, 2007 12:01 PM
Gene said...
WE WOULD LIKE TO BE ALLOWED TO VOTE.
RRPS IS DENYING US THIS OPPORTUNITY.
OUR COUNTRY IS FOUNDED ON DEMOCRACY AND THIS IS IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION.
LET US VOTE.
“OF THE PEOPLE, BY THE PEOPLE, FOR THE PEOPLE"
April 26, 2007 12:07 PM
Chris said...
“OF THE PEOPLE, BY THE PEOPLE, FOR THE PEOPLE"
April 26, 2007 12:51 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
"A city cannot rise any higher than the level of its leaders”
April 26, 2007 3:14 PM
“Where have you gone Joe DiMaggio”? said...
As I understand it, RRPS had opposition for the very first graduation.
Certain persons did not want the graduation to be held outside of RR city limits. Thank goodness some of the SCHOOL BOARD members had the insight & foresight to realize the graduating class was so big they had to hold it at a venue larger then the high school gym. So they held it in Johnson Gym.
Then certain SCHOOL BOARD members realized that THE PIT would have to be used just due to the sheer numbers of the graduating class and family and loved ones in attendance.
Thank you, past SCHOOL BOARD members!
This entire crew today along with their think tank could learn a thing or two from you.
“Where have you gone Joe DiMaggio”?
Now we are going backwards and disregarding our seniors and their families, even though this is the largest graduating class in our school’s history. It is much bigger then the first two graduations and one of the biggest in the state this year. The future holds even bigger graduating classes to come.
Other city dwellers in RR, had advised our leaders that the Star Center is “too small”, for a long list of different activities.
So obviously it is too small for this year's graduation.
The decision is wrong, the effort is wasted, the timing was horrendous, the TV feeds are not the same as the real thing.
An important aspect in all of this is that those first SCHOOL BOARD members did not put their positions, interests, ego’s, power or thinking first. They put our children first, the way it should be.
GOD BLESS YOU.
April 26, 2007 4:05 PM
They put our children first said...
“OF THE PEOPLE, BY THE PEOPLE, FOR THE PEOPLE"
"A city cannot rise any higher than the level of its leaders”
“Where have you gone Joe DiMaggio”? said...
As I understand it, RRPS had opposition for the very first graduation.
Certain persons did not want the graduation to be held outside of RR city limits. Thank goodness some of the SCHOOL BOARD members had the insight & foresight to realize the graduating class was so big they had to hold it at a venue larger then the high school gym. So they held it in Johnson Gym.
Then certain SCHOOL BOARD members realized that THE PIT would have to be used just due to the sheer numbers of the graduating class and family and loved ones in attendance.
Thank you, past SCHOOL BOARD members!
This entire crew today along with their think tank could learn a thing or two from you.
“Where have you gone Joe DiMaggio”?
Now we are going backwards and disregarding our seniors and their families, even though this is the largest graduating class in our school’s history. It is much bigger then the first two graduations and one of the biggest in the state this year. The future holds even bigger graduating classes to come.
Other city dwellers in RR, had advised our leaders that the Star Center is “too small”, for a long list of different activities.
So obviously it is too small for this year's graduation.
The decision is wrong, the effort is wasted, the timing was horrendous, the TV feeds are not the same as the real thing.
An important aspect in all of this is that those first SCHOOL BOARD members did not put their positions, interests, ego’s, power or thinking first. They put our children first, the way it should be.
GOD BLESS YOU.
2007 FAMILIES AND SENIORS
April 26, 2007 4:24 PM
Call Yvette 994-9648 said...
2007, 2008, 2009, 2010:
We have the Hard Copy paper PETITION
Please call me and I will meet you to get it signed.
Please pass my number to other families thank you.
Call Yvette 994-9648
April 27, 2007 8:19 AM
Anonymous said...
"Politics is the art of preventing people from taking part in affairs which properly concern them."
April 27, 2007 2:26 PM
No savings at all said...
No savings at all!!!
The Center will end up costing more the THE PIT!!
They said they would be saving money, the won't be!
SERIOUSLY… said...
SERIOUSLY…
SIMPLY, WHAT PRICE DO YOU PLACE ON A CELEBRATION OF LOVE AND LIFE?!
THE COST THE SAVINGS THAT MRS. CLEVELAND AND MR. VONANCKEN ALLUDE TO ABSOLUTELY DO NOT OUT WEIGH WHAT WILL BE COMPLETELY LOST!
YES, EVEN TO ATTEMPT TO PLACE A PRICE ON THIS ENTIRE PROCESS, CELEBRATION AND EVENT IS INAPPROPRIATE BECAUSE IT IS TRULY “PRICELESS”!
TO ARGUE THIS IMPORTANT POINT IS IGNORANCE AND….WELL….VERY WRONG.
April 28, 2007 10:26 AM
Families and Graduates said...
The RRPS decision will hurt graduation for the next four years.
We will need families most affected to sign the PETITION,
call Yvette at 994-9648
2007, 2008, 2009, 2010:
We have the Hard Copy paper PETITION
Please call me and I will meet you to get it signed.
Please pass my number to other families thank you.
Call Yvette 994-9648
April 28, 2007 11:22 AM
no vision said...
The City of Vision has been blinded by the LIES!
Stephen
April 28, 2007 12:48 PM
Wake up little Susie! said...
She is still asleep
Anonymous said...
So who's going to wake up little Susie?
April 28, 2007 2:19 PM
THE PIT said...
Keep passing the word along The Pit is still available.
April 28, 2007 5:57 PM
"little Johnny" said...
There are a number of people, both here and in the press, who keep dragging "little Johnny," a graduating senior, along with his family, into this mess.
After enduring the callous, condescending remarks, and lack of common courtesy, Little Johnny woke up the other morning and got his blog on!
http://littlejohnnyinriorancho.blogspot.com/
April 29, 2007 1:17 PM
IS IT TRUE? said...
Is it true Mr. VonAncken always tells students in his speeches “the choice is yours” but the reality is.....not this time?
April 29, 2007 9:04 PM
Families and Graduates said...
The RRPS decision will hurt graduation for the next four years.
We will need families most affected to sign the PETITION,
call Yvette at 994-9648
2007, 2008, 2009, 2010:
We have the Hard Copy paper PETITION
Please call me and I will meet you to get it signed.
Please pass my number to other families thank you.
Call Yvette 994-9648
April 30, 2007 7:53 AM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
Seniors and Families,
"Always vote for principle, though you may vote alone, and you may cherish the sweetest reflection that your vote is never lost."
April 30, 2007 7:30 PM
M said...
I did not read every comment posted yet, so if someone already said this better, then at least good thinkers see eye to eye, hah.
This is a case of “THE GLASS IS HALF FULL OR THE GLASS IS HALF EMPTY”,
I do agree with all the reasons, logic and merits to have the graduation in Rio Rancho.
But…..I also agree with every single reason THE CLASS OF 2007 SHOULD HAVE STAYED AT THE PIT.
Plain and simple, the decision and how it was enforced was WRONG!!
Mario
April 30, 2007 8:36 PM
Never again in our lifetime said...
At Three minutes and Four seconds after 2 AM on the 6th of May This Year,
the time and date will be 02:03:04 05/06/07.
This will Never happen again in our lifetime.
April 30, 2007 8:42 PM
We are not enemies said...
~ We are not enemies,
But friends.
We must not be enemies.
Though passion may have strained
It must not break our bonds of affection.
The mystic chords of memory . . .
. . . Will yet swell
When again touched,
As surely they will be,
By the better Angels of our Nature ~
April 30, 2007 8:57 PM
NEED TICKETS PLEASE said...
NEED TICKETS PLEASE!
IF ANYONE HAS ANY EXTRA GRADUATION TICKETS THEY DO NOT NEED PLEASE EMAIL ME AT
acharles7591@aol.com
Thanks to this decision, I really hate having to choose which family member can go and who can't.
As everyone has to do that will not have enough tickets.
Thank you,
May 1, 2007 11:26 AM
CLASS OF 2007 said...
we was robbed!!!
May 1, 2007 12:26 PM
My Graduation 2007 said...
My Graduation 2007
Class Ring - $400 (In Albuquerque)
Announcements/Cap & Gown - $200 (In Albuquerque)
Invitations - $150 (In Albuquerque)
Graduation pictures - $400 (In Albuquerque)
8 family members flying in - $3,600
Graduation party - $2,000
Having my entire family who encouraged me for the last 13 years celebrate with me at
THE PIT.....
PRICELESS!!!
May 1, 2007 8:33 PM
Anonymous said...
NEED TICKETS PLEASE said...
NEED TICKETS PLEASE!
IF ANYONE HAS ANY EXTRA GRADUATION TICKETS THEY DO NOT NEED PLEASE EMAIL ME AT
acharles7591@aol.com
Thanks to this decision, I really hate having to choose which family member can go and who can't.
As everyone has to do that will not have enough tickets.
Thank you,
May 2, 2007 5:54 AM
GOD BLESS YOU said...
They put our children first said...
“OF THE PEOPLE, BY THE PEOPLE, FOR THE PEOPLE"
"A city cannot rise any higher than the level of its leaders”
“Where have you gone Joe DiMaggio”? said...
As I understand it, RRPS had opposition for the very first graduation.
Certain persons did not want the graduation to be held outside of RR city limits. Thank goodness some of the SCHOOL BOARD members had the insight & foresight to realize the graduating class was so big they had to hold it at a venue larger then the high school gym. So they held it in Johnson Gym.
Then certain SCHOOL BOARD members realized that THE PIT would have to be used just due to the sheer numbers of the graduating class and family and loved ones in attendance.
Thank you, past SCHOOL BOARD members!
This entire crew today along with their think tank could learn a thing or two from you.
“Where have you gone Joe DiMaggio”?
Now we are going backwards and disregarding our seniors and their families, even though this is the largest graduating class in our school’s history. It is much bigger then the first two graduations and one of the biggest in the state this year. The future holds even bigger graduating classes to come.
Other city dwellers in RR, had advised our leaders that the Star Center is “too small”, for a long list of different activities.
So obviously it is too small for this year's graduation.
The decision is wrong, the effort is wasted, the timing was horrendous, the TV feeds are not the same as the real thing.
An important aspect in all of this is that those first SCHOOL BOARD members did not put their positions, interests, ego’s, power or thinking first. They put our children first, the way it should be.
GOD BLESS YOU.
2007 FAMILIES AND SENIORS
May 2, 2007 5:58 AM
Families and Graduates said...
The RRPS decision will hurt graduation for the next four years.
We will need families most affected to sign the PETITION,
call Yvette at 994-9648
2007, 2008, 2009, 2010:
We have the Hard Copy paper PETITION
Please call me and I will meet you to get it signed.
Please pass my number to other families thank you.
Call Yvette 994-9648
May 2, 2007 4:17 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
The seniors of the class of 2007 would like to acknowledge RRPS for:
Failing to listening to reason, for stressing us, for lying to us, for disregarding our celebration, for punishing us for something we did not do, for providing us with tacky announcements, for burdening our families with expenditures for travel, with discriminating against anyone with a large family, or large network, for telling us “the choice is yours”, but it never was, for a disrespectful board president, for a superintendent that claimed she knew all the reasons, but later after making things worse admitted to failing to know all the reasons, for a dishonest principal, for no help from the mayor, for making us have to choose who goes and who stays, for being dictators, for threatening families and students that spoke up, for telling us to get over it, for telling us life is hard get over it, for telling us we are greedy, for a BIG MESS!
May 2, 2007 4:29 PM
little johnny said...
RRPS has created a situation where the families of graduating seniors are made to feel like gate crashers.
Way to congratulate the graduates!
May 3, 2007 7:29 AM
Anonymous said...
NEED TICKETS PLEASE said...
NEED TICKETS PLEASE!
IF ANYONE HAS ANY EXTRA GRADUATION TICKETS THEY DO NOT NEED PLEASE EMAIL ME AT
acharles7591@aol.com
Thanks to this decision, I really hate having to choose which family member can go and who can't.
As everyone has to do that will not have enough tickets.
Thank you,
May 3, 2007 11:42 AM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
Everything that we would have like to have said is right here among all of these comments.
We would like thank everyone that spoke up.
Too bad RRPS is not listening to a word we’re saying.
2007 SENIORS
May 3, 2007 11:51 AM
Anonymous said...
Keep passing the word along The Pit is still available.
May 3, 2007 8:23 PM
Families and Graduates said...
The RRPS decision will hurt graduation for the next four years.
We will need families most affected to sign the PETITION,
call Yvette at 994-9648
2007, 2008, 2009, 2010:
We have the Hard Copy paper PETITION
Please call me and I will meet you to get it signed.
Please pass my number to other families thank you.
Call Yvette 994-9648
May 4, 2007 12:01 PM
"FEAR NOT" said...
.
"Fear not the path of truth for the lack of people walking on it."
May 4, 2007 4:27 PM
TO RRPS said...
Thank YOU.
Thank you for messing up the 2007 graduation.
I don't have enough tickets
Shawn
May 4, 2007 7:19 PM
NEED TICKETS PLEASE said...
NEED TICKETS PLEASE!
IF ANYONE HAS ANY EXTRA GRADUATION TICKETS THEY DO NOT NEED PLEASE EMAIL ME AT
acharles7591@aol.com
Thanks to this decision, I really hate having to choose which family member can go and who can't.
As everyone has to do that will not have enough tickets.
Thank you,
May 5, 2007 11:28 AM
America said...
from the Indians who welcomed the pilgrims
know your history
May 5, 2007 3:27 PM
49,000 PEOPLE said...
"REMEMBER THIS DECISION WILL AFFECT ALL GRADUATING SENIORS, THEIR FAMILIES AND LOVED ONES OVER THE NEXT 4 YEARS OR UNTIL THE NEW SCHOOL IS OPEN!"
YES, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010 WILL ALL BE AFFECTED!
THAT IS EASILY OVER 40,000 PEOPLE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ATTEND BUT WON'T BE ALLOWED!
BECAUSE EVERY YEAR WILL BE BIGGER THEN THE PREVIOUS YEAR!
Make sure you PASS this on!
Call Yvette 994-9648
May 5, 2007 4:43 PM
history said...
"Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it."
May 5, 2007 6:15 PM
wrong said...
Dr. Sue Cleveland,
you did us wrong,
2007 Seniors
May 6, 2007 3:08 PM
African Proverb: said...
Dr. Cleveland,
This was your motto at one time:
"It takes a village to raise a child."
Now it appears your motto is:
"But only LIMITED amount of that village is allowed to attend the child's graduation"
2007 SENIORS
May 6, 2007 5:33 PM
Come together said...
"Come together right now over me"
May 7, 2007 11:06 AM
NEED TICKETS PLEASE said...
NEED TICKETS PLEASE!
IF ANYONE HAS ANY EXTRA GRADUATION TICKETS THEY DO NOT NEED PLEASE EMAIL ME AT
acharles7591@aol.com
Thanks to this decision, I really hate having to choose which family member can go and who can't.
As everyone has to do that will not have enough tickets.
Thank you,
May 7, 2007 11:07 AM
CALL said...
"REMEMBER THIS DECISION WILL AFFECT ALL GRADUATING SENIORS, THEIR FAMILIES AND LOVED ONES OVER THE NEXT 4 YEARS OR UNTIL THE NEW SCHOOL IS OPEN!"
YES, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010 WILL ALL BE AFFECTED!
THAT IS EASILY OVER 49,000 to 59,000 PEOPLE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ATTEND BUT WON'T BE ALLOWED!
BECAUSE EVERY YEAR WILL BE BIGGER THEN THE PREVIOUS YEAR!
Make sure you PASS this on!
Call Yvette 994-9648
May 9, 2007 8:59 AM
HELP said...
NEED TICKETS PLEASE!
IF ANYONE HAS ANY EXTRA GRADUATION TICKETS THEY DO NOT NEED PLEASE EMAIL ME AT
acharles7591@aol.com
Thanks to this decision, I really hate having to choose which family member can go and who can't.
As everyone has to do that will not have enough tickets.
Thank you,
May 9, 2007 3:26 PM
Wrong said...
wrong decision Sue, you apologized, but when my children were little they thought they could apologize and that would correct or excuse their wrong. I had to additionally let them know, that sorry does not cut it. Depending on the circumstance and situation, an apology all by itself does not cut it, does not excuse the wrong.
Sue, sorry does not cut it.
May 10, 2007 9:06 AM
2008 said...
DON'T GIVE UP!!
May 10, 2007 9:06 PM
Families said...
CONGRATULATIONS CLASS OF 2007!
May 11, 2007 10:16 AM
Tickets said...
NEED TICKETS PLEASE!
IF ANYONE HAS ANY EXTRA GRADUATION TICKETS THEY DO NOT NEED PLEASE EMAIL ME AT
acharles7591@aol.com
Thanks to this decision, I really hate having to choose which family member can go and who can't.
As everyone has to do that will not have enough tickets.
Thank you,
May 12, 2007 12:50 PM
SCHOOL BOARD MEETING MONDAY MAY 14TH said...
SCHOOL BOARD MEETING MONDAY MAY 14TH
May 13, 2007 12:15 PM
Mothers said...
Dr. Cleveland anc RRPS,
Thank you for ruining the Class of 2007's GRADUATION.
We went to UNM's yesterday,
what a GREAT EVENT,
they went on and on about everyone coming, including FAMILY and FREINDS!
The speeches did not at all limit anyone from attending, they encouraged and welcomed diversity.
May 13, 2007 12:29 PM
"It takes a village to raise a child" said...
it does
May 14, 2007 3:07 PM
Nathan said...
Thank you to everyone that spoke up against this decision
May 14, 2007 6:14 PM
still need said...
NEED TICKETS PLEASE!
IF ANYONE HAS ANY EXTRA GRADUATION TICKETS THEY DO NOT NEED PLEASE EMAIL ME AT
acharles7591@aol.com
Thanks to this decision, I really hate having to choose which family member can go and who can't.
As everyone has to do that will not have enough tickets.
Thank you,
May 15, 2007 7:20 AM
2008, 2009, 2010 said...
CALL said...
"REMEMBER THIS DECISION WILL AFFECT ALL GRADUATING SENIORS, THEIR FAMILIES AND LOVED ONES OVER THE NEXT 4 YEARS OR UNTIL THE NEW SCHOOL IS OPEN!"
YES, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010 WILL ALL BE AFFECTED!
THAT IS EASILY OVER 49,000 to 59,000 PEOPLE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ATTEND BUT WON'T BE ALLOWED!
BECAUSE EVERY YEAR WILL BE BIGGER THEN THE PREVIOUS YEAR!
Make sure you PASS this on!
Call Yvette 994-9648
May 16, 2007 2:53 PM
"the choice" was not ours: said...
My Graduation 2007
Class Ring - $400 (In Albuquerque)
Announcements/Cap & Gown - $200 (In Albuquerque)
Invitations - $150 (In Albuquerque)
Graduation pictures - $400 (In Albuquerque)
8 family members flying in - $3,600
Graduation party - $2,000
Having my entire family who encouraged me for the last 13 years celebrate with me at
THE PIT.....
PRICELESS!!!
May 16, 2007 2:54 PM
no vote allowed said...
sorry 2007
May 16, 2007 2:55 PM
Sue's legacy said...
Dr. Cleveland,
As this matter unfolds,
more negative things occur, due to your change of location for graduation.
I will from now on be reminded of the 2007 graduation, when I hear your name.
May 17, 2007 9:59 AM
YES still need said...
NEED TICKETS PLEASE!
IF ANYONE HAS ANY EXTRA GRADUATION TICKETS THEY DO NOT NEED PLEASE EMAIL ME AT
acharles7591@aol.com
Thanks to this decision, I really hate having to choose which family member can go and who can't.
As everyone has to do that will not have enough tickets.
Thank you,
May 18, 2007 1:17 PM
done deal said...
Congrats 2007
May 20, 2007 10:15 PM
"the choice" was not ours: said...
My Graduation 2007
Class Ring - $400 (In Albuquerque)
Announcements/Cap & Gown - $200 (In Albuquerque)
Invitations - $150 (In Albuquerque)
Graduation pictures - $400 (In Albuquerque)
8 family members flying in - $3,600
Graduation party - $2,000
Having my entire family who encouraged me for the last 13 years celebrate with me at
THE PIT.....
PRICELESS!!!
It did not happen, 8 tickets was not enough, I had to pick and choose it honestly was horrible. The 8 that came thoroughly enjoyed the ceremony, I enjoyed them being there too, but I also thought about my family that were not allowed to come and I cried.
May 22, 2007 5:16 PM
2008, 2009, 2010 said...
"REMEMBER THIS DECISION WILL AFFECT ALL GRADUATING SENIORS, THEIR FAMILIES AND LOVED ONES OVER THE NEXT 4 YEARS OR UNTIL THE NEW SCHOOL IS OPEN!"
YES, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010 WILL ALL BE AFFECTED!
THAT IS EASILY OVER 49,000 to 59,000 PEOPLE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ATTEND BUT WON'T BE ALLOWED!
BECAUSE EVERY YEAR WILL BE BIGGER THEN THE PREVIOUS YEAR!
Make sure you PASS this on!
Call Yvette 994-9648
May 23, 2007 7:35 PM
TO Sue, Lisa, Richard, Kevin, Mike, Genie and Gary said...
EVERYTHING THAT NEEDED TO BE SAID WAS SAID
WE THANK EVERYONE THAT SPOKE UP
TOO BAD RRPS DID NOT LISTEN
2007 SENIORS AND FAMILIES
May 25, 2007 11:00 AM
Dr. Cleveland once believed said...
Dr. Cleveland,
"It takes a village to raise a child."
Thank you for ruining our graduation
2007 SENIORS & FAMILIES
May 25, 2007 3:10 PM
sure we did not boo said...
we did not boo,
we have better tact
then those that did boo in 06,
we showed you we did not deserve to be penalized for their behavior,
if you noticed we did not clap for certain people either,
the observer still got it wrong,
you all got it wrong,
you all need to find out why the booed in 06,
you deserved it then,
you deserve it now
og
May 26, 2007 9:24 PM
We did not boo you said...
we did not boo you,
even though you deserved it,
we have better tact
then those that did boo you in 06,
we showed you we did not deserve to be penalized for their behavior,
if you noticed we did not clap for certain people either,
the observer still got it wrong,
you all got it wrong,
you all need to find out why they booed you in 06,
you deserved to be booed then,
you deserve to be booed now
og again
May 27, 2007 10:29 AM
2008, 2009, 2010 said...
"REMEMBER THIS DECISION BY RRPS WILL AFFECT ALL GRADUATING SENIORS, THEIR FAMILIES AND LOVED ONES OVER THE NEXT 4 YEARS OR UNTIL THE NEW SCHOOL IS OPEN!"
YES, NOW 2008, 2009, 2010 WILL ALL BE AFFECTED!
FROM 2007 IS EASILY OVER 49,000 to 59,000 PEOPLE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ATTEND BUT WON'T BE ALLOWED!
BECAUSE EVERY YEAR WILL BE BIGGER THEN THE PREVIOUS YEAR!
Make sure you PASS this on!
Call Yvette 994-9648
May 27, 2007 5:48 PM
2008 said...
BACK TO THE PIT!
May 28, 2007 8:35 PM
Anonymous said...
WE DID IT SENIORS!!!!
2007 RULES
May 29, 2007 12:49 PM
Anonymous said...
CONGRATULATIONS CLASS OF 2007!
May 30, 2007 7:32 PM
2008 said...
BACK TO THE PIT,
NOT TO THE CASINO!!
June 2, 2007 8:35 PM
Anonymous said...
back to The PIT in 08
June 3, 2007 10:43 AM
Santa Ana Star Center/Mayor said...
Mayor backed The Pit change
when we tried to get his help,
he was backing the move and Dr. Cleveland
Front Page of ABQ Journal
http://www.abqjournal.com/news/metro/568021metro06-03-07.htm
Sunday, June 3, 2007
Rio Rancho Pulls Mayor's Credit Card
By Sean Olson
Copyright © 2007 Albuquerque Journal; Journal Staff Writer
Rio Rancho city staff have revoked Mayor Kevin Jackson's city-issued credit card over nearly $8,000 in purchases primarily made at the Santa Ana Star Center for renting out suites, buying food and paying for concert tickets.
"It would be very difficult to determine a public purpose for just handing out tickets," interim city manager Jim Babin said Friday.
City Fiscal Services director Dick Kristof said Friday that Jackson's purchasing card— a city-issued credit card— was canceled May 17 and a new one has been issued to the city. The new card "is not available" to Jackson, Kristof said.
City spokesman Peter Wells said a city audit into the credit card records will continue.
Jackson's attorney, B.J. Crow, said Saturday that he has not seen any details to allegations against Jackson and has only one comment until he does.
"Mr. Jackson is adamant that no city funds have been misspent," Crow said.
Jackson has been out of town and has not returned Journal messages.
In a May 24 letter to his administrative assistant, Jackson claims he did not specifically ask for some of the entertainment charges to be put on the city's card.
"This past week, I was shown a bill for my credit card that had many charges on it that I did not make," the letter states.
His letter recommends changes that better track expenditures for travel and the event center, and requests a monthly report on all expenses from the mayor's budget.
He also said in the letter that he realizes that his administrative assistant is "often put in a position to charge something based on calls from others for tickets, events, etc. especially when others say that the Mayor said so or this is official business."
Memo stated concerns
All of the questionable purchases appeared on the monthly summary of purchasing that Jackson signed.
Babin sent a memo to Jackson on May 18— a day after Jackson's card was canceled— outlining concerns that city personnel had raised over Jackson's purchasing habits throughout the year.
"Again, we are not authorized to expend public funds to purchase tickets in order to give them to other people, including City or State employees, unless there is an official city function being hosted— one which has a defined benefit to the city as a whole," the memo said.
The memo also questioned "various lunches" and one purchase for $11 worth of alcohol. City policy does not allow public funds to be spent on alcohol.
Jackson signed a card holder agreement in March 2006 for the credit card that outlines the rules of using the card.
The agreement states "under no circumstances will I use the Purchasing Card to make personal purchases."
City records show that Jackson on May 24— after his credit card had been revoked— reimbursed the city for about $600 of the $8,000 questioned.
It was to refund $216 worth of Moody Blues tickets, $184 for refreshments at the concert and about $200 worth of food from Sal E Boys Pizza in Rio Rancho and Chili's Grill, according to a memo sent to city staff from Jackson's administrative assistant.
Among other purchases that raised concerns included:
April transactions for about $2,600 worth of tickets and refreshments for concerts, New Mexico Scorpions playoff tickets and a business dinner with new city manager Jim Payne.
March transactions of about $1,100 worth of Santa Ana Star Center purchases.
February transactions of about $1,900 in tickets— including $1,600 worth for Willie Nelson tickets.
November transactions of $1,281 for travel and events center tickets.
Babin said that Jackson has been asked to justify the use of the credit card for those transactions and others but that he has not heard from him on the issue.
"If they were for private purchases, he would have to reimburse us," Babin said.
Check fraud alleged
Jackson is already facing an investigation by a U.S. Inspector General over allegations that he misspent federal grant funds while running his former nonprofit, New Mexico Family Council— Best Choice.
And Family Council officials say that they filed a report with the Rio Rancho Department of Public Safety on Thursday alleging that Jackson committed check fraud.
Family Council officials have also sent a demand letter to Jackson for a refund of at least two trips.
City records show that two trips made by the mayor— one to Fort Meyers, Fla., from Nov. 2-5, and another to Baltimore from March 18-21— were charged to the city credit card.
Family Council officials have said their records show that Jackson was reimbursed by that organization for those trips, as well.
Meanwhile, Jackson has had large increases in his mayor's budget in comparison to former mayors.
All of the Santa Ana Star Center charges fall under the "other costs" portion of the mayor's budget. Traditionally, that portion of the budget has been set at $500 a year.
Jackson's "other costs" budget has been increased to $9,600 through the fiscal year, which ends June 30, using transfers from other line items in the mayor's budget.
The total mayor's budget has increased about $18,000— to $83,000. Of that, about $69,000 has been spent.
Travel costs have gone above originally budgeted levels and an increase of about $8,500 has been added this year.
Jackson, who started the Family Council in 2001 and managed it until three weeks ago, was fired amid allegations of "mismanagement" of federal grant funds, including giving himself a raise from $62,000 to $85,000 without board of directors or grant administrator consent.
The Family Council also cited questionable travel expenses and unauthorized donations to other nonprofits as reasons for the firing.
June 3, 2007 11:38 AM
Anonymous said...
action jackson,
say it ain't so!
June 3, 2007 8:23 PM
Anonymous said...
Mayor,
chickens have come home to roost
June 4, 2007 2:39 PM
2008, 2009, 2010 said...
"REMEMBER THIS DECISION BY RRPS WILL AFFECT ALL GRADUATING SENIORS, THEIR FAMILIES AND LOVED ONES OVER THE NEXT 4 YEARS OR UNTIL THE NEW SCHOOL IS OPEN!"
YES, NOW 2008, 2009, 2010 WILL ALL BE AFFECTED!
FROM 2007, NOW EASILY
OVER 49,000 to 59,000 PEOPLE
THAT WOULD LIKE TO ATTEND BUT WON'T BE ALLOWED!
BECAUSE EVERY YEAR WILL BE BIGGER THEN THE PREVIOUS YEAR!
Make sure you PASS this on!
Call Yvette 994-9648
June 4, 2007 3:47 PM
Anonymous said...
To Mayor J. and Dr. Cleveland,
what comes around goes around
June 4, 2007 6:10 PM
Anonymous said...
Sue Cleveland,
back to the pit
June 5, 2007 8:37 AM
2008 said...
we want the PIT
June 5, 2007 2:12 PM
liar liar pants on fire said...
Action Jackson and the super you both lied
June 6, 2007 4:59 PM
Anonymous said...
Hasta la vista Baby!
June 6, 2007 8:30 PM
go back said...
TO THE PIT!!
The casino was not that good,
big deal they had my name in lights,
so what,
my grandparents could not go!
I'd rather have family there not my name in lights
07Senior
June 7, 2007 11:53 AM
Anonymous said...
2008 Families, we want to go back to the PIT
June 7, 2007 2:56 PM
Anonymous said...
The mayor backed the WRONG horse and so did rrps.
RRPS families
June 7, 2007 3:25 PM
GO RAMS!!! said...
ROCK THE PIT AGAIN!
June 7, 2007 9:03 PM
Gary put his foot in his mouth said...
Gary Herron is completely out of line with his philosophy regarding who can and who can’t attend graduations.
Please make sure you send this out to everyone in your email address book, every Blog space, every "my space" location, hey, even share it with strangers you pass on the street.
I just read this in the newspaper and then a comment about it here on the Blog.
I don’t want to say anything mean spirited here but this needs to be passed on.
Also, run down the article in the Observer’s 3/25/07 Sunday issue and read all of it.
Part of BLOG COMMENT:
Gary, you actually wrote 10 year olds and under “should have stayed home”?
I don’t want to have my figures wrong or did you mean, 9 year olds and under “should have stayed home”?
I hope your foot is not that big?
I hope your quote gets passed around to every mother and father across this country.
May I respectfully ask you, who are you to discriminate against age?
(Perhaps I should count my blessing you don’t have S. Cleveland, R. Von Ancken and B. Duncan’s position)
I wonder now Gary, were you part of the think tank to get the decision through? Just asking.
June 8, 2007 8:04 AM
2008 said...
“BACK TO THE PIT
FAMILY AND FRIENDS OF RIO RANCHO HIGH SCHOOL GRADUATES DISCUSSION GROUP”
After reading your blogs, newspaper stories, and the newscasts, Dr. Cleveland we want the 2008 graduation at THE PIT, thank you.
June 8, 2007 9:09 AM
505 said...
The Pit
June 8, 2007 6:33 PM
Anonymous said...
2008 wants to go Back To The Pit
June 9, 2007 10:52 AM
2008, 2009, 2010 said...
"REMEMBER THIS DECISION BY RRPS WILL AFFECT ALL GRADUATING SENIORS, THEIR FAMILIES AND LOVED ONES OVER THE NEXT 4 YEARS OR UNTIL THE NEW SCHOOL IS OPEN!"
YES, NOW 2008, 2009, 2010 WILL ALL BE AFFECTED!
INCLUDING THE CLASS OF 2007,
NOW EASILY
OVER 49,000 to 59,000 PEOPLE
THAT WOULD LIKE TO ATTEND
WON'T BE ALLOWED TO ATTEND!
BECAUSE EACH YEAR EACH CLASS WILL BE BIGGER THEN THE PREVIOUS YEAR!
Make sure you PASS this on!
Call Yvette 994-9648
June 9, 2007 12:05 PM
Santa Ana Star Center/Mayor said...
The Mayor backed The Pit change
when we tried to get his help,
he was backing the move and Dr. Cleveland
From the Front Page of ABQ Journal
http://www.abqjournal.com/news/metro/568021metro06-03-07.htm
Sunday, June 3, 2007
Rio Rancho Pulls Mayor's Credit Card
By Sean Olson
Copyright © 2007 Albuquerque Journal; Journal Staff Writer
Rio Rancho city staff have revoked Mayor Kevin Jackson's city-issued credit card over nearly $8,000 in purchases primarily made at the Santa Ana Star Center for renting out suites, buying food and paying for concert tickets.
"It would be very difficult to determine a public purpose for just handing out tickets," interim city manager Jim Babin said Friday.
City Fiscal Services director Dick Kristof said Friday that Jackson's purchasing card— a city-issued credit card— was canceled May 17 and a new one has been issued to the city. The new card "is not available" to Jackson, Kristof said.
City spokesman Peter Wells said a city audit into the credit card records will continue.
Jackson's attorney, B.J. Crow, said Saturday that he has not seen any details to allegations against Jackson and has only one comment until he does.
"Mr. Jackson is adamant that no city funds have been misspent," Crow said.
Jackson has been out of town and has not returned Journal messages.
In a May 24 letter to his administrative assistant, Jackson claims he did not specifically ask for some of the entertainment charges to be put on the city's card.
"This past week, I was shown a bill for my credit card that had many charges on it that I did not make," the letter states.
His letter recommends changes that better track expenditures for travel and the event center, and requests a monthly report on all expenses from the mayor's budget.
He also said in the letter that he realizes that his administrative assistant is "often put in a position to charge something based on calls from others for tickets, events, etc. especially when others say that the Mayor said so or this is official business."
Memo stated concerns
All of the questionable purchases appeared on the monthly summary of purchasing that Jackson signed.
Babin sent a memo to Jackson on May 18— a day after Jackson's card was canceled— outlining concerns that city personnel had raised over Jackson's purchasing habits throughout the year.
"Again, we are not authorized to expend public funds to purchase tickets in order to give them to other people, including City or State employees, unless there is an official city function being hosted— one which has a defined benefit to the city as a whole," the memo said.
The memo also questioned "various lunches" and one purchase for $11 worth of alcohol. City policy does not allow public funds to be spent on alcohol.
Jackson signed a card holder agreement in March 2006 for the credit card that outlines the rules of using the card.
The agreement states "under no circumstances will I use the Purchasing Card to make personal purchases."
City records show that Jackson on May 24— after his credit card had been revoked— reimbursed the city for about $600 of the $8,000 questioned.
It was to refund $216 worth of Moody Blues tickets, $184 for refreshments at the concert and about $200 worth of food from Sal E Boys Pizza in Rio Rancho and Chili's Grill, according to a memo sent to city staff from Jackson's administrative assistant.
Among other purchases that raised concerns included:
April transactions for about $2,600 worth of tickets and refreshments for concerts, New Mexico Scorpions playoff tickets and a business dinner with new city manager Jim Payne.
March transactions of about $1,100 worth of Santa Ana Star Center purchases.
February transactions of about $1,900 in tickets— including $1,600 worth for Willie Nelson tickets.
November transactions of $1,281 for travel and events center tickets.
Babin said that Jackson has been asked to justify the use of the credit card for those transactions and others but that he has not heard from him on the issue.
"If they were for private purchases, he would have to reimburse us," Babin said.
Check fraud alleged
Jackson is already facing an investigation by a U.S. Inspector General over allegations that he misspent federal grant funds while running his former nonprofit, New Mexico Family Council— Best Choice.
And Family Council officials say that they filed a report with the Rio Rancho Department of Public Safety on Thursday alleging that Jackson committed check fraud.
Family Council officials have also sent a demand letter to Jackson for a refund of at least two trips.
City records show that two trips made by the mayor— one to Fort Meyers, Fla., from Nov. 2-5, and another to Baltimore from March 18-21— were charged to the city credit card.
Family Council officials have said their records show that Jackson was reimbursed by that organization for those trips, as well.
Meanwhile, Jackson has had large increases in his mayor's budget in comparison to former mayors.
All of the Santa Ana Star Center charges fall under the "other costs" portion of the mayor's budget. Traditionally, that portion of the budget has been set at $500 a year.
Jackson's "other costs" budget has been increased to $9,600 through the fiscal year, which ends June 30, using transfers from other line items in the mayor's budget.
The total mayor's budget has increased about $18,000— to $83,000. Of that, about $69,000 has been spent.
Travel costs have gone above originally budgeted levels and an increase of about $8,500 has been added this year.
Jackson, who started the Family Council in 2001 and managed it until three weeks ago, was fired amid allegations of "mismanagement" of federal grant funds, including giving himself a raise from $62,000 to $85,000 without board of directors or grant administrator consent.
The Family Council also cited questionable travel expenses and unauthorized donations to other nonprofits as reasons for the firing.
June 9, 2007 12:06 PM
Anonymous said...
2008 WILL ROCK THE PIT.....
June 9, 2007 12:44 PM
June 9, 2007 12:55 PM
Johnson Gym said...
we might have to Rock JG?
June 9, 2007 3:49 PM
Anonymous said...
que sara que sara
June 9, 2007 4:38 PM
Anonymous said...
Sue and the Mayor,
it figures,
he sure was a BIG supporter of the Star Center Casino
June 9, 2007 5:16 PM
Anonymous said...
Mayor, Mayor, Mayor,
you had close ties with this casino,
you and Sue were together on keeping the graduation in Rio Rancho at the casino at all costs,
where there is smoke there is fire
June 10, 2007 11:09 AM
Anonymous said...
Sue and Mayor Jackson and RRPS and the observer,
You all can keep telling yourselves how wonderful this and that was.
Blah, blah, blah,
the issue you keep ignoring is the fact what you did was wrong.
10,000 more people that wanted to come could not
just so you could have your way.
June 10, 2007 11:44 AM
Anonymous said...
thanks Roy for letting me know about this website.
We want The Pit
Cordova's
June 10, 2007 11:49 AM
To RRPS said...
Attention RRPS,
I support the idea to return the graduation to Rio Rancho. But not at a casino and not the way you did this years families wrong.
Amanda C.
June 10, 2007 12:13 PM
no to the casino said...
casino....?
center....?
call it what you will
they all scratch each other's backs
just ask the mayor and Sue
June 11, 2007 8:29 AM
Anonymous said...
Excellent point, they ALL scratch one another's backs you got that right?
June 11, 2007 9:36 AM
BS said...
you are damn right I, we did not boo you, even though you deserved it our family did not boo you.
2007 not booing you did not occur because we chose not to.
Where we were sitting some did boo you just so you know. But they were not overly loud like last year.
2006 booed you because you deserved it, they could not contain themselves.
June 11, 2007 2:13 PM
Back To The Pit said...
uh huh
June 11, 2007 4:21 PM
Anonymous said...
bologna.....
take the graduations where more people can actually be there.....
the first two or three school boards had it right you need a bigger location not this center named after a casino....
that is very tacky
June 11, 2007 5:41 PM
Great stuff said...
thank you for this web site.
We would our graduations to return to The Pit.
Conner
June 12, 2007 7:15 AM
Anonymous said...
Rio Rancho Public Schools,
you ruined our plans, don't ruin it for future graduations
Martinez'
June 12, 2007 10:02 AM
WE LOVE IT! said...
We love this site!
Stand up and be counted!
June 12, 2007 10:27 AM
Anonymous said...
copy this link
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tjsz8VGXLqs&mode=related&search=
June 12, 2007 11:19 AM
Anonymous said...
Back To The Pit
June 12, 2007 5:58 PM
Anonymous said...
Let us return to a BIGGER venue please
June 12, 2007 8:46 PM
Anonymous said...
All we are saying is give peace a chance
John L.
June 13, 2007 6:38 AM
Anonymous said...
Rio Rancho families UNITE!
June 13, 2007 7:46 AM
Santa Ana Star Center/Mayor said...
The Mayor backed the change
when we tried to get his help,
he was backing the move and Dr. Cleveland's decision to change the graduation.
He sure wanted the Star Center Casino to know he was backing them even though the decision was discriminatory.
From the Front Page of ABQ Journal
http://www.abqjournal.com/news/metro/568021metro06-03-07.htm
Sunday, June 3, 2007
Rio Rancho Pulls Mayor's Credit Card
By Sean Olson
Copyright © 2007 Albuquerque Journal; Journal Staff Writer
Rio Rancho city staff have revoked Mayor Kevin Jackson's city-issued credit card over nearly $8,000 in purchases primarily made at the Santa Ana Star Center for renting out suites, buying food and paying for concert tickets.
"It would be very difficult to determine a public purpose for just handing out tickets," interim city manager Jim Babin said Friday.
City Fiscal Services director Dick Kristof said Friday that Jackson's purchasing card— a city-issued credit card— was canceled May 17 and a new one has been issued to the city. The new card "is not available" to Jackson, Kristof said.
City spokesman Peter Wells said a city audit into the credit card records will continue.
Jackson's attorney, B.J. Crow, said Saturday that he has not seen any details to allegations against Jackson and has only one comment until he does.
"Mr. Jackson is adamant that no city funds have been misspent," Crow said.
Jackson has been out of town and has not returned Journal messages.
In a May 24 letter to his administrative assistant, Jackson claims he did not specifically ask for some of the entertainment charges to be put on the city's card.
"This past week, I was shown a bill for my credit card that had many charges on it that I did not make," the letter states.
His letter recommends changes that better track expenditures for travel and the event center, and requests a monthly report on all expenses from the mayor's budget.
He also said in the letter that he realizes that his administrative assistant is "often put in a position to charge something based on calls from others for tickets, events, etc. especially when others say that the Mayor said so or this is official business."
Memo stated concerns
All of the questionable purchases appeared on the monthly summary of purchasing that Jackson signed.
Babin sent a memo to Jackson on May 18— a day after Jackson's card was canceled— outlining concerns that city personnel had raised over Jackson's purchasing habits throughout the year.
"Again, we are not authorized to expend public funds to purchase tickets in order to give them to other people, including City or State employees, unless there is an official city function being hosted— one which has a defined benefit to the city as a whole," the memo said.
The memo also questioned "various lunches" and one purchase for $11 worth of alcohol. City policy does not allow public funds to be spent on alcohol.
Jackson signed a card holder agreement in March 2006 for the credit card that outlines the rules of using the card.
The agreement states "under no circumstances will I use the Purchasing Card to make personal purchases."
City records show that Jackson on May 24— after his credit card had been revoked— reimbursed the city for about $600 of the $8,000 questioned.
It was to refund $216 worth of Moody Blues tickets, $184 for refreshments at the concert and about $200 worth of food from Sal E Boys Pizza in Rio Rancho and Chili's Grill, according to a memo sent to city staff from Jackson's administrative assistant.
Among other purchases that raised concerns included:
April transactions for about $2,600 worth of tickets and refreshments for concerts, New Mexico Scorpions playoff tickets and a business dinner with new city manager Jim Payne.
March transactions of about $1,100 worth of Santa Ana Star Center purchases.
February transactions of about $1,900 in tickets— including $1,600 worth for Willie Nelson tickets.
November transactions of $1,281 for travel and events center tickets.
Babin said that Jackson has been asked to justify the use of the credit card for those transactions and others but that he has not heard from him on the issue.
"If they were for private purchases, he would have to reimburse us," Babin said.
Check fraud alleged
Jackson is already facing an investigation by a U.S. Inspector General over allegations that he misspent federal grant funds while running his former nonprofit, New Mexico Family Council— Best Choice.
And Family Council officials say that they filed a report with the Rio Rancho Department of Public Safety on Thursday alleging that Jackson committed check fraud.
Family Council officials have also sent a demand letter to Jackson for a refund of at least two trips.
City records show that two trips made by the mayor— one to Fort Meyers, Fla., from Nov. 2-5, and another to Baltimore from March 18-21— were charged to the city credit card.
Family Council officials have said their records show that Jackson was reimbursed by that organization for those trips, as well.
Meanwhile, Jackson has had large increases in his mayor's budget in comparison to former mayors.
All of the Santa Ana Star Center charges fall under the "other costs" portion of the mayor's budget. Traditionally, that portion of the budget has been set at $500 a year.
Jackson's "other costs" budget has been increased to $9,600 through the fiscal year, which ends June 30, using transfers from other line items in the mayor's budget.
The total mayor's budget has increased about $18,000— to $83,000. Of that, about $69,000 has been spent.
Travel costs have gone above originally budgeted levels and an increase of about $8,500 has been added this year.
Jackson, who started the Family Council in 2001 and managed it until three weeks ago, was fired amid allegations of "mismanagement" of federal grant funds, including giving himself a raise from $62,000 to $85,000 without board of directors or grant administrator consent.
The Family Council also cited questionable travel expenses and unauthorized donations to other nonprofits as reasons for the firing.
June 13, 2007 7:57 AM
Anonymous said...
Mayor and Sue,
shame on you
Anne
June 13, 2007 8:53 AM
OK said...
OK, we tried it, now lets go Back To The PIT
June 13, 2007 3:51 PM
WOW said...
i love this blog!
June 14, 2007 6:56 PM
2008, 2009, 2010 said...
"REMEMBER THIS DECISION BY RRPS WILL AFFECT ALL GRADUATING SENIORS, THEIR FAMILIES AND LOVED ONES OVER THE NEXT 4 YEARS OR UNTIL THE NEW SCHOOL IS OPEN!"
YES, NOW 2008, 2009, 2010 WILL ALL BE AFFECTED!
INCLUDING THE CLASS OF 2007,
NOW EASILY
OVER 49,000 to 59,000 PEOPLE
THAT WOULD LIKE TO ATTEND
WON'T BE ALLOWED TO ATTEND!
BECAUSE EACH YEAR EACH CLASS WILL BE BIGGER THEN THE PREVIOUS YEAR!
Make sure you PASS this on!
Call Yvette 994-9648
June 17, 2007 8:51 PM
Yes to the PIT said...
NO to the casino center
June 19, 2007 4:48 PM
Anonymous said...
BACK TO THE PIT
NOT THE CASINO
June 25, 2007 5:36 PM
Anonymous said...
no casino..
si to THE PIT
June 27, 2007 8:56 PM
Anonymous said...
OK, LET'S DO THIS PEACEFULLY, AND RETURN TO THE PIT NOT THE MAYOR'S PLACE
June 30, 2007 7:50 AM
Anonymous said...
can't we all just get along,
looks like the mayor owed the star center?
Joe M
June 30, 2007 11:50 AM
observant said...
what a crock of crapola! we want everyone that wants to come to come not have restrictions, bull loney, so what the Mayor had tv feeds into a gym and so should we,
bah, look and Jackson now! what comes around is coming around on him. he was the same way when he kissed ass to get into the DOC. My uncle can give you all an ear full on the BSer, hah,
June 30, 2007 4:11 PM
Lone Ranger said...
lets go Tonto,
hi ho Silver....!
Tonto says,
no Kimo Sabe....
lets go BACK TO THE PIT...!
June 30, 2007 7:12 PM
Ratatouille said...
RRPS,
can you see the BIG picture?
July 1, 2007 8:25 AM
Anonymous said...
Back To The Pit in 08
July 1, 2007 4:31 PM
Gomer said...
in a southern drawl....
"SURPRISE....
SURPRISE......
SURPRISE...."
http://littlejohnnyinriorancho.blogspot.com/
July 1, 2007 9:23 PM
Anonymous said...
HAPPY 4TH!!!
THIS CELEBRATION IS WHAT IT IS ALL ABOUT FOR OUR COUNTRY,
FREEDOM!!!
SOMETHING THE MAYOR, CLEVLELAND AND CO. NEED TO RE-READ!
SORRY SONS OF.....
July 4, 2007 3:35 PM
Anonymous said...
SOB's is right, they got it wrong the Pit is a better arena
July 5, 2007 9:02 PM
2006 said...
I am a 2006 graduate, I did not boo. I family and friends did not boo. 2007 should have booed the doors down. The administration deserved it more then they did in 2006.
July 6, 2007 9:33 PM
Anonymous said...
we want the pit
gotta have that pit
sing again
we want the pit
gotta have that pit
tell me more
we want the pit
gotta have that pit
one more time
we want the pit
gotta have that pit
July 7, 2007 12:02 PM
Anonymous said...
RIGHT ON
July 10, 2007 5:59 PM
Da Pit said...
Da PIT
July 11, 2007 7:45 AM
2007 said...
The graduation this year was bittersweet, let graduates and families have a choice.
July 12, 2007 3:47 PM
Anonymous said...
Shenanagins!
That is what RRPS is about, right along with the mayor, birds of a feather flock together. They need to get that flock outta here!!!
July 13, 2007 10:56 AM
oh what a tangled web we weaved said...
the mayor the superintendent, the center the city of vision triangle
July 15, 2007 10:07 AM
say it ain't so Sue said...
say it ain't so Sue
July 16, 2007 7:24 AM
Anonymous said...
another one bites the dust....
July 16, 2007 4:22 PM
Anonymous said...
no center for 2008 back to the pit
July 17, 2007 11:39 AM
resign Sue said...
go Sue
July 17, 2007 4:17 PM
Anonymous said...
to bad he did not resign before the graduation in May
then he would not have pushed so hard to take care of his buddies at the santa ana star
July 19, 2007 9:34 AM
Anonymous said...
BACK TO THE PIT not to the star center
July 19, 2007 11:57 AM
To Sue said...
Yo Sue!
follow suit and get your keister outta here
July 20, 2007 3:51 PM
Yo sue said...
go
git
go on
July 21, 2007 10:32 AM
2008 said...
BACK TO THE PIT
July 21, 2007 10:09 PM
Jackson and Cleveland said...
Action Jackson has left the building Cleveland can leave too
July 23, 2007 7:01 AM
NO said...
NO to the center of santa ana
July 23, 2007 5:06 PM
Anonymous said...
2007 graduates and families were blatantly wronged. The mayor helped out in this and backed his cronies. Someone wrote somebody owed somebody to pull this scam off and they were on the money. Get it? On the money!
July 24, 2007 8:01 AM
Back To the PIT said...
stop the madness go back to the PIT
July 24, 2007 4:57 PM
i don't know said...
I don't want the star center for 2008!
July 25, 2007 5:50 AM
i don't know but i've been told said...
something stinks in the city of vengeance or vision
July 25, 2007 5:04 PM
smelly said...
The RRPS and the Mayor smell to high heaven
July 27, 2007 3:35 PM
see how they run said...
"....LADY MADONNA....SEE HOW THEY RUN..."
July 28, 2007 11:19 AM
Anonymous said...
Let my people GO back to the Pit
July 31, 2007 9:55 PM
BACK TO THE PIT said...
NOW
August 1, 2007 10:37 AM
Si said...
Si, to the University Arena in Bull Que not the Santa Ana Star
August 1, 2007 12:47 PM
Anonymous said...
Play again Sam but at THE PIT
August 1, 2007 4:37 PM
RRPS said...
Lets have a GREAT 2008
August 2, 2007 7:33 PM
2008 said...
2008 RULES!!
August 3, 2007 9:27 AM
The PIT said...
will the PIT be avail. this year?
August 12, 2007 1:53 PM
Anonymous said...
all is well that ends well you tried the center not lets get back to the pit
August 12, 2007 4:28 PM
i said...
back
back
to
the
pit
August 13, 2007 1:14 PM
to Dr. Cleveland and RRPS said...
Please read between the lines,
your Mayor wanted you at the casino. you all were part and parcel to this whole debacle
August 17, 2007 11:41 AM
doo wah ditto said...
you ALL were and are in cahoots
August 19, 2007 10:50 AM
great site!! said...
great site!!
August 22, 2007 10:51 AM
question this move said...
THE DECISION TO MOVE THE GRADUATION HAS A FOUL ODOR TO IT. FORMER MAYOR JACKSON AND DR. SUE CLEVELAND WERE BOTH INVOLVED IN A BAD MOVE...
August 23, 2007 5:29 PM
Stinks said...
they who smelt it dealt it
August 25, 2007 9:29 PM
ok said...
OK, we did the center and cheated thousands that would have went to the Arena The Pit. Now lets get back to business, the mayor is gone and hopefully the Sup understands what she did wrong. Also, the CLASS of 2007 and family were a CLASS ACT, everyone mostly behaved.
August 28, 2007 2:41 PM
Anonymous said...
ok said...
OK, we did the center and cheated thousands that would have went to the Arena The Pit. Now lets get back to business, the mayor is gone and hopefully the Sup understands what she did wrong. Also, the CLASS of 2007 and family were a CLASS ACT, everyone mostly behaved.
August 30, 2007 12:06 PM
found it said...
What we have here is a failure to really see what a huge mistake this was to change the location. Until those that are calling the shots see that nothing will change. The bigger problem is they will not see it anytime soon.
September 1, 2007 11:36 AM
http://www.abqjournal.com/venue/591122venue09-02-07.htm said...
http://www.abqjournal.com/venue/591122venue09-02-07.htm
September 3, 2007 12:04 PM
Dr. Cleveland,
Please figure out what you did wrong?
The entire structure at RR needs to be addressed along with the board the status quo there is in part to blame not just for this matter but for many past, present and futures matters
Another day in Paradise,
no to the center
yes to THE PIT,
forget all the rethoric and power play on families,
blah, blah, blah,
what a bunch of blow hards,
this adiministration along with the last mayor stink to high heaven.
We've read all sides pros, cons,
it is clear here in Rio Rancho,
the lunatics are running the asylum
The current mindset of this administration is downright ignorant and on many levels. They truly believe what they are doing is in the best interest of our children. News Flash, the need to talk to some of the past boards, there were a few back in the beginning that knew what they were doing and actually put our children first in their actions not just lip service. I challenge to the sup and her henchmen to let other voices be heard
I MUST ADMIT I WAS ALL FOR HAVING THE CEREMONY IN RIO RANCHO BUT AFTER READING ALL THE GARBAGE IN THE NEWSPAPER AND ALL THE ONESIDEDNESS BOTH GOOD AND BAD THE ADMINISTRATION WAS WAY OUT OF LINE THEY KEPT HARPING ON THE MOTHER THAT WANTED TO HAVE A BUNCH OF TICKETS THEY DID NOT REALIZE HER FAMILY HAD TWO GRADUATES AND THEY BOTH COME FROM “LARGE” FAMILIES WHAT IS WRONG WITH THAT? THE NEWS ALONG WITH NEGATIVE COMMENTS PUT HER DOWN IT WAS ALL UNFAIR SO WHAT
EVEN THOSE THAT NEEDED MORE THEN WHAT WAS ALLOWED MANY DID NOT GET EXTRA TICKETS THEY THE SCHOOL AND THE NEWSPAPER FOCUSED ON HER REQUEST AND OTHERS ADDED THEIR NONSENSE
THIS FAMILY AND ALL FAMILIES DID NOT DESERVE HOW THEY WERE TREATED
TRUST ME ON THIS MANY WANTED TO BOO BUT DID NOT
THE NEWSPAPER NOTED HOW WELL BEHAVED THEY GIVE VERY BIASED NEWS COVERAGE
THE MAYOR WAS ON BOARD LOOK WHAT HAPPENED TO HIM HE OWED HIS “POSSE” AT SANTA ANA
WHERE WAS KOB?
KUDOS TO KOAT WHO COVERED IT ALL
AND KRQE FOR COMING IN LATE
BETTER LATE THEN NEVER
KOB, SHAME ON YOU
AND SHAME ON THE ENTIRE OBSERVER STAFF
I MUST ADMIT I WAS ALL FOR HAVING THE CEREMONY IN RIO RANCHO BUT AFTER READING ALL THE GARBAGE IN THE NEWSPAPER AND ALL THE ONESIDEDNESS BOTH GOOD AND BAD THE ADMINISTRATION WAS WAY OUT OF LINE THEY KEPT HARPING ON THE MOTHER THAT WANTED TO HAVE A BUNCH OF TICKETS THEY DID NOT REALIZE HER FAMILY HAD TWO GRADUATES AND THEY BOTH COME FROM “LARGE” FAMILIES WHAT IS WRONG WITH THAT? THE NEWS ALONG WITH NEGATIVE COMMENTS PUT HER DOWN IT WAS ALL UNFAIR SO WHAT
EVEN THOSE THAT NEEDED MORE THEN WHAT WAS ALLOWED MANY DID NOT GET EXTRA TICKETS THEY THE SCHOOL AND THE NEWSPAPER FOCUSED ON HER REQUEST AND OTHERS ADDED THEIR NONSENSE
THIS FAMILY AND ALL FAMILIES DID NOT DESERVE HOW THEY WERE TREATED
TRUST ME ON THIS MANY WANTED TO BOO BUT DID NOT
THE NEWSPAPER NOTED HOW WELL BEHAVED THEY GIVE VERY BIASED NEWS COVERAGE
THE MAYOR WAS ON BOARD LOOK WHAT HAPPENED TO HIM HE OWED HIS “POSSE” AT SANTA ANA
WHERE WAS KOB?
KUDOS TO KOAT WHO COVERED IT ALL
AND KRQE FOR COMING IN LATE
BETTER LATE THEN NEVER
KOB, SHAME ON YOU
AND SHAME ON THE ENTIRE OBSERVER STAFF
Right ON!
Get Back To The Pit
no way,
don't downsize!!!
we all win at the Pit!
RIO RANCHO WHAT THE HECK IS WRONG WITH YOU. WHY DON'T YOU GET IT?
the news reports the blind reading the blind,
WELL ITS HIGH TIME WE WENT,
IT HIGH TIME WENT NOW,
WELL ITS HIGH TIME WE WENT TO THE PIT
To go or not to go?
Simple, go back to the Pit.
Fancis P
the Star Center will be going out of business soon, then what?
come on!
Anonymous said...
Kool!
"OF THE PEOPLE, BY THE PEOPLE, FOR THE PEOPLE"
“THAT WE HERE HIGHLY RESOLVE THAT THESE DEAD SHALL NOT HAVE DIED IN VAIN--THAT THIS NATION, UNDER GOD, SHALL HAVE A NEW BIRTH OF FREEDOM--AND THAT GOVERNMENT OF THE PEOPLE, BY THE PEOPLE, FOR THE PEOPLE, SHALL NOT PERISH FROM THE EARTH."
2007, 2008 SENIORS AND FAMILIES
Sue, Sue bo boo
banana fanana fo foo
fi fi mo moo....Suuueee...
Another 2008 Class on the way
but lets not have the ceremony at the casino
TJ
Back to the PIT!!!
Oh yeah!!!
2008 Class lets not have the ceremony at the casino
Brande
not another year at the casino!!
Back to The PIT!
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